WEBVTT - The Bolt Report | 7 October 0:00:15.970 --> 0:00:20.710 Tonight, the October 7th anniversary, today, the murder of 1,200 0:00:20.710 --> 0:00:25.360 Israelis that day was bad enough and the three years 0:00:25.420 --> 0:00:29.420 since have been actually terrifying. Also tonight, a shock poll 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:31.700 for Labor. There's time running out for the Prime Minister 0:00:31.740 --> 0:00:34.880 and his failed Treasurer. And the French Civil War just 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.040 gets worse, with the hard left again joining with other 0:00:38.100 --> 0:00:44.990 enemies of our civilisation. Plenty more tonight. But first, today 0:00:45.030 --> 0:00:48.449 came another mad attack on our wealth. The High Court said, 0:00:48.470 --> 0:00:53.120 hang on, a New South Wales coal mine... Wicked coal, 0:00:53.700 --> 0:00:57.540 a mine at Mount Pleasant, can't extend operations unless it 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.680 proves it's tried as much as possible to stop emissions 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:06.370 caused by the coal it sends overseas. Global warming, you 0:01:06.390 --> 0:01:09.230 got it. Now, if this becomes the new rule and 0:01:09.270 --> 0:01:11.649 not just the New South Wales, our coal exports could 0:01:11.690 --> 0:01:16.010 be destroyed by activists, including, of course, activist judges. That's 0:01:16.050 --> 0:01:19.750 our second biggest export now under threat. $ 70 billion a year. 0:01:21.980 --> 0:01:24.500 when we're buried in debt, when our standard of living 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:28.730 is already falling. Honestly, let me repeat a great truth 0:01:28.770 --> 0:01:31.790 that our governments still don't get. It's not global warming 0:01:32.650 --> 0:01:38.350 that could destroy Australia. It's global warming policies. That's what's 0:01:38.390 --> 0:01:42.550 making us poorer and making life harder. And where has 0:01:42.670 --> 0:01:45.790 our climate change and energy minister been while the High 0:01:45.850 --> 0:01:50.610 Court puts a torpedo through our coal exports? Well, Chris 0:01:50.650 --> 0:01:55.830 Bowen was... at his farcical climate conference in Tuvalu, a 0:01:55.950 --> 0:01:59.670 conference which cost us more than $ 20 million, designed to 0:02:00.390 --> 0:02:04.110 scare us and our judges and everyone else into a 0:02:04.310 --> 0:02:07.830 frenzy about coal. But there he was actually nodding off, 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.980 couldn't keep his eyes open, which says it all. I mean, 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:12.940 if Bowen really thought his conference had to save the 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.860 planet from a climate apocalypse that could kill us all, 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:23.570 wouldn't he be wide awake with urgency, not closed-eyed with boredom? Now, 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.710 it's true, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who foolishly joined Bowen's circus, 0:02:27.750 --> 0:02:31.690 did yesterday try to give a big wakey-wakey to the 0:02:31.770 --> 0:02:35.750 embarrassingly few world leaders and Chris Bowen, who accepted Bowen's 0:02:35.790 --> 0:02:40.750 invitation to come watch him play Planet Saver. But Albanese 0:02:40.770 --> 0:02:41.880 just made a fool of himself. 0:02:42.940 --> 0:02:47.400 The forecast of Super El Nino may test us all. 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:54.800 In Australia, we're expecting a summer of floods... of cyclones 0:02:55.860 --> 0:03:01.340 of extreme heat and extreme behaviour. Because the science told 0:03:01.419 --> 0:03:05.700 us that if we didn't act to address global emissions, 0:03:06.139 --> 0:03:08.900 this is precisely what would occur. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:15.590 Yet again, more alarmist bull from a scientific ignoramus. But 0:03:15.750 --> 0:03:19.930 did you hear one journalist there, you know, question him, 0:03:20.410 --> 0:03:25.470 correct him? One, does Albanese really think there's been no 0:03:25.630 --> 0:03:31.179 El Nino before? It happened every few years. Two, does 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:35.180 Albanese seriously think that Australia could stop cyclones or floods 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:39.840 or an El Nino by cutting our tiny emissions? Come 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:44.330 off it. And three, does Albanese really not know that 0:03:44.940 --> 0:03:49.140 Australia and Tuvalu have in fact both had fewer cyclones 0:03:49.540 --> 0:03:53.540 over the past four decades of global warming, and fewer 0:03:53.580 --> 0:04:00.270 severe ones? Not more cyclones, Prime Minister, but fewer. For instance, 0:04:00.590 --> 0:04:03.930 the Australian-funded Climate and Ocean Support Programme in the Pacific 0:04:04.610 --> 0:04:07.650 said four years ago, in the Greater South West Pacific... 0:04:08.300 --> 0:04:13.340 which includes Tuvalu, the total number of severe tropical cyclones 0:04:13.380 --> 0:04:19.050 has decreased over the last 40 seasons. And the number 0:04:19.070 --> 0:04:22.630 of tropical cyclones that became severe events has marginally declined. 0:04:23.190 --> 0:04:28.860 Fewer cyclones, not more. The opposite of what Albanese was saying. 0:04:29.140 --> 0:04:33.339 And that's thanks to global warming. Same with Australia. Nor 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.960 is that the end of the good news that global 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:40.669 warming has brought. As our CSIRO admits, the earth is 0:04:40.710 --> 0:04:45.890 now getting greener, especially in Australia, thanks in part to 0:04:45.950 --> 0:04:49.650 our emissions. And we're getting more rain than a century ago. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.700 Fewer cyclones, more rain, more greening. Should Albanese and Bowen 0:04:53.779 --> 0:04:58.440 really be trying to stop all that? So let me 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.700 sum up the madness of their global warming crusade. Albanese 0:05:01.740 --> 0:05:04.289 and Bowen want to spend billions we do not have 0:05:05.010 --> 0:05:08.010 on green schemes that do not work. to stop a 0:05:08.050 --> 0:05:12.580 climate catastrophe that does not exist. And I think many 0:05:12.620 --> 0:05:17.520 people are now waking up to this incredible reality. They're 0:05:17.540 --> 0:05:20.200 now counting the horrendous cost of this con of pretending 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:24.480 to stop global warming. I reckon that's why this pre-conference 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.610 conference over there in Fiji and Tuvalu has been such 0:05:28.650 --> 0:05:32.770 a flop. This specific frolic organised by Chris Bowen as 0:05:33.130 --> 0:05:36.770 President of Negotiations at next month's United Nations Climate Conference 0:05:36.790 --> 0:05:41.540 conference in Turkey. Bowen asked world leaders to join him 0:05:42.300 --> 0:05:45.339 in this pre-conference conference to work up a joint agenda 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.539 for the Turkey meeting. But just two non-Pacific leaders turned up. 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.880 They were from Minos. I mean, East Timor, the Maldives. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.020 The turnout was so thin that Bowen had to get 0:05:59.100 --> 0:06:02.860 two failed Labor leaders, New Zealand's Jacinda Ardern and Australia's 0:06:03.180 --> 0:06:07.500 Julia Gillard, to come be the guest speakers, despite neither 0:06:07.540 --> 0:06:11.640 being remotely a global warming expert. They were just there 0:06:11.660 --> 0:06:15.359 to say, go Chris, you know, you beaut. It was 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:19.640 also embarrassing that Albanese seemed to be hiding from reporters. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.920 He didn't answer a single question before flying back home, 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:25.340 leaving Bowen to carry the can. 0:06:26.339 --> 0:06:27.900 If you want to talk about scrutiny, this is my 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.680 second press conference of pre-cop. The only reason I didn't 0:06:30.700 --> 0:06:32.610 hold a press conference yesterday is because I was coming 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.450 and going to Tuvalu and didn't get back until well 0:06:35.470 --> 0:06:40.790 into the evening. I'm here as the ministerial counterpart of Linda. 0:06:40.890 --> 0:06:44.630 I'm holding a press conference today. Linda, unfortunately, the Prime 0:06:44.650 --> 0:06:46.820 Minister of Fiji hasn't held a press conference either. Leaders 0:06:47.180 --> 0:06:49.960 are engaged with each other. I'm here answering questions and 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:50.800 will do again tomorrow. 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.040 I mean, really, I'm guessing even Albanese actually now realises 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.480 there are a few votes left in pretending to stop 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.060 global warming when Australians are now counting the price of 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:08.890 just trying from paying huge prices for electricity to wasting 0:07:09.070 --> 0:07:14.620 billions on dud green schemes like... Chris Bone's green hydrogen projects, 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.960 what a flop that was too. But from frying pan 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.620 to the fire, because Albanese has flown back to another 0:07:21.670 --> 0:07:26.870 disastrous fallout from his global warming religion, this High Court decision. 0:07:28.890 --> 0:07:31.150 For the first time, the High Court has ruled that 0:07:31.290 --> 0:07:34.930 Australia is not just responsible for its own emissions, we're 0:07:34.970 --> 0:07:39.450 also responsible for the emissions from countries which burn the 0:07:39.530 --> 0:07:44.350 coal they buy from us. It says New South Wales 0:07:44.430 --> 0:07:46.830 law demands that those emissions have to be considered before 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.540 approving mines or mine extensions, even though one mine cannot 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:56.090 make any difference to global warming that anyone could possibly notice. 0:07:57.830 --> 0:08:02.950 And another telling thing. Environment Minister Murray Watt today didn't 0:08:03.330 --> 0:08:07.270 thank the court for saving the world from dangerous heating, 0:08:07.390 --> 0:08:10.830 for socking it to those wicked coal mines. He instead stressed, 0:08:11.130 --> 0:08:13.120 oh no, this wasn't the government's fault. 0:08:14.070 --> 0:08:16.220 I would make the point that the decision from the 0:08:16.260 --> 0:08:19.020 High Court is in relation to a New South Wales 0:08:19.060 --> 0:08:22.780 government decision based on New South Wales legislation, so it 0:08:22.820 --> 0:08:27.310 doesn't automatically transfer to Commonwealth decisions in or Commonwealth legislation. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.280 That was a very specific requirement under New South Wales 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.580 law that doesn't exist in Commonwealth law. So at this 0:08:34.660 --> 0:08:37.400 early stage, I wouldn't necessarily say that it will flow 0:08:37.460 --> 0:08:38.860 onto Commonwealth decisions as well. 0:08:40.220 --> 0:08:44.450 Honestly, when even the Environment Minister of this government washes 0:08:44.490 --> 0:08:48.309 his hands of an attack on alcohol, it is clear 0:08:48.350 --> 0:08:52.809 that even Labor hardheads know that this climate religion has 0:08:52.890 --> 0:09:02.079 become a curse. I was joined a short while ago 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.860 by Federal Opposition Leader Angus Taylor because he's about to 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:11.349 go to a memorial service to mark the October 7 massacre. 0:09:11.410 --> 0:09:11.910 Good on him. 0:09:11.970 --> 0:09:15.770 But this is our discussion. Angus Taylor, thank you so 0:09:15.809 --> 0:09:17.290 much for your time. I want to talk to you 0:09:17.350 --> 0:09:21.689 about the big immigration policy you released yesterday, which I 0:09:21.730 --> 0:09:25.050 think is a good move. But first, this High Court decision. 0:09:25.850 --> 0:09:28.929 that says a coal mine in New South Wales has 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.840 to account for emissions caused when its coal is burnt 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:37.420 by customers overseas for their power or for their smelting. 0:09:37.860 --> 0:09:39.380 How serious is this? 0:09:39.980 --> 0:09:43.459 It's very serious, Andrew, and thank you for having me. 0:09:43.540 --> 0:09:47.970 This is activist lawfare and this is legislation from the 0:09:48.010 --> 0:09:50.890 New South Wales government which is enabling it and what 0:09:50.929 --> 0:09:54.390 it effectively means is is this mine is accountable for 0:09:54.410 --> 0:09:57.420 the emissions of its customers. Now, that's never been a 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:03.360 principle that is... is usable or makes any sense at all, Andrew. 0:10:03.540 --> 0:10:07.929 And the Minsk government should eliminate this legislation, should abolish it. 0:10:08.830 --> 0:10:11.390 And if they don't and they should and if they. 0:10:11.309 --> 0:10:14.890 Don't, then the Albanese government should do the same thing 0:10:15.070 --> 0:10:15.910 at the federal level. 0:10:16.510 --> 0:10:18.250 This is completely unacceptable. 0:10:18.309 --> 0:10:20.770 The idea that a mine should be accountable for its 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.500 emissions and that should be taken into account for its 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.180 customers emissions and that should be taken into account is 0:10:27.340 --> 0:10:30.859 total madness. And it will lead to the death of 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.000 our mining industry if it is to continue. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.480 Now, I know the three of the five judges ruled 0:10:37.500 --> 0:10:40.210 for this, and they're looking at New South Wales legislation, 0:10:40.570 --> 0:10:45.729 what it allegedly obliges companies and planning authorities to do 0:10:45.910 --> 0:10:49.360 in New South Wales. But I wonder whether this means 0:10:49.410 --> 0:10:53.300 we should pull out of legal obligations overseas, like the 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:57.540 Paris Treaty, which would encourage judges to say, well, this 0:10:57.610 --> 0:11:00.550 is international law or we sign these treaties and this 0:11:00.590 --> 0:11:03.510 is our obligation. Do you think that you would you 0:11:03.550 --> 0:11:05.770 have another look at that pulling out of the Paris Treaty? 0:11:05.809 --> 0:11:10.130 Well, can I say there is absolutely nothing that requires this. 0:11:11.010 --> 0:11:13.319 This is on the New South Wales government. 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.339 It's chosen to put this legislation in place and it 0:11:17.420 --> 0:11:20.949 makes no sense whatsoever to And so they should just 0:11:20.970 --> 0:11:22.490 get rid of it. It's got nothing to do with 0:11:22.530 --> 0:11:27.100 international treaties. Andrew, that's another question and a reasonable question 0:11:27.130 --> 0:11:30.059 you ask, but this has got nothing to do with that. 0:11:30.460 --> 0:11:33.100 So the men's government should get rid of it. And 0:11:33.179 --> 0:11:37.760 if they don't, then the Albanese government should enact legislation 0:11:38.090 --> 0:11:38.780 to override it. 0:11:40.750 --> 0:11:43.870 Now, that said, the International Court of Justice has already 0:11:43.890 --> 0:11:47.210 been saying that perhaps that should be that should be 0:11:47.230 --> 0:11:50.050 made obligatory in other countries too. I mean, the fact 0:11:50.190 --> 0:11:52.390 is you sign up to a treaty like that and 0:11:52.429 --> 0:11:55.870 you do, you know, judges do look at it as 0:11:55.929 --> 0:11:57.790 a sign of what we should be doing. This is 0:11:57.809 --> 0:12:02.319 the problem. Your immigration plan, though, to me it seems 0:12:02.860 --> 0:12:05.420 the most considered attempt I've seen from any party for 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.480 a long, long, long time to slash immigration numbers. In fact, 0:12:08.500 --> 0:12:11.300 I haven't seen them slash them. Whether it will work 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.780 or not, there's a debate. It's hard to tell. You know, 0:12:14.860 --> 0:12:17.000 I guess you'll have to live with it if you 0:12:17.059 --> 0:12:19.980 form government and we'll see. But can I ask this? 0:12:22.020 --> 0:12:27.960 What's really made this issue so potent and has driven 0:12:28.100 --> 0:12:32.140 One Nation's vote in particular is the idea that we're 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:36.740 losing control, that mass immigration is causing us to feel 0:12:36.820 --> 0:12:39.140 strangers in our own home, more danger. 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:39.600 Less safe. 0:12:42.590 --> 0:12:45.809 What drives you most in proposing these cuts? Is it 0:12:45.830 --> 0:12:49.910 the economics of mass immigration or the social damage that 0:12:50.250 --> 0:12:53.630 mass immigration has done? Is it about the economy or 0:12:53.730 --> 0:12:54.290 our culture? 0:12:54.590 --> 0:12:57.650 Well, it's both, Andrew. It absolutely is both. 0:12:57.770 --> 0:13:01.920 We've seen people come to this country and get visas 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.780 who should never have come to this country and should 0:13:04.820 --> 0:13:08.640 never have been issued visas. One of them was one 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.699 of the shooters at North Bondi just before Christmas last year. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.720 But it is also true that we have seen record 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:21.929 levels of immigration under this Labor government, 1.6 million people 0:13:22.850 --> 0:13:25.690 in just over four years. That's more than the population 0:13:25.809 --> 0:13:31.170 of Adelaide. And that is completely unacceptable. It cannot be absorbed. 0:13:31.490 --> 0:13:34.210 It's too big a number, whether it's cultural or economic. 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.680 Our housing, our infrastructure, our services haven't been able to 0:13:38.730 --> 0:13:42.489 keep up. And I said from the moment I came 0:13:42.530 --> 0:13:46.590 into this job that the numbers were too high, the 0:13:46.630 --> 0:13:50.550 standards were too low and both must change. And that's 0:13:50.610 --> 0:13:54.170 a reflection of both the economics and, of course, the 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.340 cultural impact that those kind of numbers have had. 0:13:58.490 --> 0:14:00.550 Yeah, but you get business now saying, well, look, it's 0:14:00.570 --> 0:14:05.750 going to hurt us, you know, making our workers, the 0:14:05.790 --> 0:14:10.439 foreign workers they've sponsored, go back overseas to get an 0:14:10.500 --> 0:14:13.940 extension of their contracts or whatever, of their visas, all 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.300 that kind of stuff. If it actually costs money, if 0:14:17.380 --> 0:14:21.010 it hurts business, is that a small price to pay? 0:14:21.970 --> 0:14:25.530 for the effect on our culture in making sure that 0:14:25.550 --> 0:14:28.210 immigration numbers are brought down? 0:14:28.690 --> 0:14:30.050 Well, I actually don't believe that. 0:14:30.190 --> 0:14:33.330 I mean, any economy or business that is built on 0:14:33.370 --> 0:14:37.620 a guest worker economy has got it wrong. And that's 0:14:37.660 --> 0:14:39.720 exactly what we've seen under this government. We've got up 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:45.380 to almost 3 million temporary visas. That's over 10% of 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:50.460 the population now, Andrew. An economy and businesses can't thrive 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:54.090 on that. And so we're not going to be lectured 0:14:54.390 --> 0:14:57.670 to by vested interests on this. We'll do what's right 0:14:57.710 --> 0:15:00.550 for our nation. And what's right for our nation right now, 0:15:00.690 --> 0:15:04.090 after a record surge of inflation, is a record cut 0:15:04.670 --> 0:15:09.420 in inflation numbers to cut back that guest worker economy, 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.880 to take control of our borders again. You said up 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.340 front it remains to be seen whether this can be done. Well, 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.520 the same was said back in 2012, 2013, of stopping 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.300 the boats and we stopped the boats. 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:23.260 We've done this before. 0:15:23.420 --> 0:15:26.310 We've regained control of our borders before and we will 0:15:26.370 --> 0:15:28.430 regain control of our borders again. 0:15:31.010 --> 0:15:35.490 Now, you did release your policy yesterday. Today is October 0:15:35.510 --> 0:15:42.810 7th anniversary. As you mentioned, Two, well, the ceremonies are 0:15:42.830 --> 0:15:46.030 being held at Bondi Beach, one of the main ceremonies today, 0:15:46.330 --> 0:15:52.010 which is where we had that slaughter of Jews. One 0:15:52.030 --> 0:15:58.860 of the gunmen being an immigrant, a Muslim immigrant. Is 0:15:58.910 --> 0:16:03.300 the timing here of this a coincidence or did you 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:08.780 have in mind that, Yes, we will be looking today 0:16:08.900 --> 0:16:13.160 in particular at the threat of Islam, maybe Muslim immigration, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.340 and your immigration crackdown is part of that. 0:16:18.220 --> 0:16:22.050 Well, there was an absolutely barbaric event on October 7 0:16:22.050 --> 0:16:24.890 and also a barbaric event just before Christmas last year 0:16:25.030 --> 0:16:26.530 at North Bondi. 0:16:26.890 --> 0:16:28.490 I went to Israel. 0:16:28.570 --> 0:16:33.000 I visited the Nova Music Festival site and kibbutz nearby. 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:39.109 1,200 people slaughtered, slaughtered. by Islamist extremists, Hamas inspired, of course. 0:16:40.350 --> 0:16:43.670 And I saw much of the footage from body cams 0:16:43.850 --> 0:16:46.490 and head cams. I never want to see that again, Andrew. 0:16:46.530 --> 0:16:49.070 It's like nothing I have ever seen before. And it 0:16:49.090 --> 0:16:53.670 was an atrocity. And so absolutely central to our immigration policy. 0:16:54.390 --> 0:16:55.380 Is Australian values. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.960 We do not want people coming to our country who 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.480 do not share our values. And Islamist extremists do not 0:17:01.540 --> 0:17:04.460 share our values. It is simple as that. And so 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:09.919 it's so important this evening on today, on October 7, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:14.210 that we we remember this. We remember this because this 0:17:14.250 --> 0:17:16.150 should never, ever happen again. 0:17:16.170 --> 0:17:20.149 Now, I totally agree with you that this government has 0:17:20.210 --> 0:17:26.240 lost control over the immigration process. Intake, unbelievable. I mean, 0:17:26.420 --> 0:17:31.679 how could we possibly have more than 400,000 people on 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.570 bridging visas trying to, you know, swap to another visa? 0:17:35.109 --> 0:17:39.949 You say you want to slash that to just 20,000, 0:17:39.950 --> 0:17:42.629 mostly by doing, you know, telling people if you want 0:17:42.650 --> 0:17:44.500 a new visa, go back home and apply for it there. 0:17:45.369 --> 0:17:49.169 Problem is that nearly 90,000 of those bridging visas are 0:17:49.190 --> 0:17:53.430 held by relatives, parents, partners, et cetera, who are already here. 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.459 Are you telling them to leave before applying for visas 0:17:56.500 --> 0:18:00.440 as well? Because, you know, there's the Labor will run 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.900 a scare campaign in migrant communities saying, oh, look, look 0:18:03.940 --> 0:18:06.480 at you. You're being heartless. The people already here. 0:18:06.790 --> 0:18:09.450 Well, we are saying that anyone whose visa has expired 0:18:09.970 --> 0:18:12.570 must go and we will deport them if they don't. 0:18:13.220 --> 0:18:15.639 But in the case you're just talking about, those bridging 0:18:15.660 --> 0:18:19.810 visas will grandfather existing visas. We just won't issue new ones. 0:18:20.570 --> 0:18:23.869 It's as simple as that, Andrew. And that's been taken 0:18:23.930 --> 0:18:27.810 account of in our numbers. And that's going to give 0:18:27.830 --> 0:18:30.610 us those outcomes that I talked about a moment ago. 0:18:31.450 --> 0:18:34.730 Those bridging visas have been abused. Look, we had bridging 0:18:34.750 --> 0:18:36.040 visas at well below 100,000 10 years ago. 0:18:38.130 --> 0:18:41.970 They're now 400,000. It is very clear this is being abused. 0:18:41.990 --> 0:18:43.270 So if someone wants. 0:18:44.570 --> 0:18:46.470 To get a secondary visa, if they're on a visa 0:18:46.490 --> 0:18:48.770 and it expires and they want another one, they should 0:18:48.810 --> 0:18:52.760 go back offshore, apply. And if they qualify, they can 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.680 come back. But they should be the people we want. 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.619 We need to put Australia first and we need to 0:18:58.660 --> 0:19:00.760 get the skills that are right for our country. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:02.840 And that has not been happening under Labor. 0:19:03.660 --> 0:19:05.440 Angus Thaler, thank you so much for your time. 0:19:05.900 --> 0:19:06.600 Good to be with you, Andrew. 0:19:09.690 --> 0:19:14.090 After the break, Labor's vote falls to the worst ever recorded. 0:19:14.690 --> 0:19:18.590 Is the game over for Anthony Albanese and his failed treasurer? 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.520 The wheels really are falling off the Albanese government. I mean, 0:19:27.540 --> 0:19:31.300 you just look at this week so far. You've got 0:19:31.340 --> 0:19:34.460 coal exports being attacked by global warming policies of the kind, 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.340 you know, this government promotes. And you've got business in 0:19:37.380 --> 0:19:42.050 revolt over the credit card surcharge ban that Albanese falsely 0:19:42.109 --> 0:19:46.190 claimed would cut prices. Another terrible week, of course, for 0:19:46.609 --> 0:19:50.980 home auctions last weekend after Albanese's tax hits on negative 0:19:51.020 --> 0:19:53.500 gearing and capital gains. When I say Albanese, I include, 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:58.330 of course, Treasurer Jim Chalmers. The Prime Minister, meanwhile, faffing 0:19:58.390 --> 0:20:02.290 around at that farce of his $ 20 million climate conference. 0:20:02.350 --> 0:20:06.030 And when the opposition yesterday unveiled this big new immigration plan... 0:20:06.619 --> 0:20:09.300 The government couldn't come up with a word of criticism, 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.879 like it was distracted or I don't know what it is. 0:20:12.500 --> 0:20:17.040 So no wonder today's News 24 Pulse poll shows Labor 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:21.910 falling to the lowest primary vote support that is ever recorded, 0:20:21.950 --> 0:20:26.209 just 25% of voters, 25%. That's three points behind One 0:20:26.250 --> 0:20:29.090 Nation now. Nearly a million and a half fewer Labor 0:20:29.130 --> 0:20:33.750 voters today than at last year's elections. The coalition, though, 0:20:33.770 --> 0:20:36.960 of course, still trails at 21%. Joining me are Cameron Milner, 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.200 former Chief of Staff to Labor leader Bill Shorten, now 0:20:39.260 --> 0:20:43.280 Director of GXO Strategies. If you're in the shtook, go 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.739 to Cameron. And Holly Hughes, former Liberal Senator, now with 0:20:46.820 --> 0:20:50.960 One Nation. Cameron, things are so bad that Sherry Markson 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:52.760 on a show last night said some in New South 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:56.140 Wales Labor want Anthony Albany's sack. Sack, Jim Chalmers. You 0:20:56.160 --> 0:21:01.350 yourself wrote something very similar yesterday, that it could be defenested, 0:21:01.730 --> 0:21:05.530 although I... Think the chances of Albanese sacking Chalmers are 0:21:05.590 --> 0:21:09.990 quite low, or am I wrong? Well, I think we're 0:21:10.030 --> 0:21:11.290 in uncharted waters, Andrew. 0:21:11.350 --> 0:21:13.510 I mean, this is a situation where Labor's primary is 0:21:13.530 --> 0:21:16.649 the worst since Federation, worst in 125 years. 0:21:16.990 --> 0:21:18.510 So this is in uncharted territory. 0:21:18.869 --> 0:21:21.090 And, you know, Jim Chalmers and Anthony Albanese are the 0:21:21.150 --> 0:21:24.280 Thelma and Louise, Thelma and Louise of Australian politics right now, 0:21:24.540 --> 0:21:27.040 driving Labor across the cliff because the Labor primary hasn't 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:27.580 found a floor. 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:29.580 It's in freefall, Andrew, freefall. 0:21:29.940 --> 0:21:34.100 And in uncharted times and unprecedented times, you know, extreme 0:21:34.140 --> 0:21:35.859 action needs to be taken. And if they can't get 0:21:35.900 --> 0:21:37.940 rid of Albo, the New South Wales right is coming 0:21:37.980 --> 0:21:38.720 after Jim Chalmers. 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.000 Yeah, but Thelma and Louise went over the cliff together. 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:47.220 They were inseparable. I don't know that Albanese can separate 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:49.000 himself from Jim Chalmers, Holly. 0:21:49.970 --> 0:21:52.290 I'm not sure they could pick up Brad Pitt either, but, 0:21:52.350 --> 0:21:56.170 you know, hey, what would I know? But honestly, I mean, 0:21:56.730 --> 0:21:59.670 these two are just a clown act and they are 0:21:59.770 --> 0:22:04.310 completely destroying this country. Someone in the Labor Party has 0:22:04.369 --> 0:22:07.090 to stand up. I mean, Cameron, there are good people 0:22:07.170 --> 0:22:10.170 in there. How can they be letting these two socialist 0:22:10.340 --> 0:22:13.840 nutjobs destroy this country at a rate of knots? And 0:22:13.859 --> 0:22:16.159 that's what they're doing. But the fact of the matter 0:22:16.180 --> 0:22:19.720 is Australians deserve the opportunity to vote these people out. 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:22.159 And the earliest we can go to an election is 0:22:22.300 --> 0:22:26.479 August next year. So with any luck, we can actually 0:22:26.619 --> 0:22:30.139 get an election and get rid of these clowns before 0:22:30.180 --> 0:22:33.400 they do any more damage. However, either way, they've got 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:35.640 seven or eight months, nine months that they can still 0:22:35.660 --> 0:22:36.320 wreak havoc in. 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:45.209 Now, but Cameron, what could Labor do to get out 0:22:45.230 --> 0:22:48.750 of this absolute mess? It seems to me at the moment, 0:22:49.410 --> 0:22:52.659 They've been frozen with a strategy that is, well, you know, 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:54.860 One Nation is going to implode at some stage, which 0:22:54.900 --> 0:22:58.720 it still hasn't done, or that, you know, One Nation 0:22:58.740 --> 0:23:01.080 will take so many votes away from the Liberals and 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.720 vice versa and blah, blah, and we'll come through the 0:23:03.740 --> 0:23:08.340 middle like Stephen Bradbury. Those seem to be its two 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.000 big hopes, but I'm not sure that it could count 0:23:11.060 --> 0:23:12.919 on that for much longer. What does it need to 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:13.520 do itself? 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:17.300 Well, it needs to stop having false hope, false hope 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.060 that the two-party preferred is actually covering up their disaster. 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.500 I mean, you can't have one in four Australians voting 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.160 for the major party, one in four Australians voting for Labor. 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.730 That's a disaster, Andrew, total disaster. So, no, and Labor's 0:23:28.750 --> 0:23:30.470 problem is that they haven't worked out that the May 0:23:30.510 --> 0:23:33.190 budget was the icing on the cake of this disaster, 0:23:33.430 --> 0:23:35.570 the icing on the cake, and that's the problem. They've 0:23:35.590 --> 0:23:37.990 been in freefall ever since the May budget as they've 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.620 gone and had a war on aspiration, a war on wealth, 0:23:40.980 --> 0:23:44.000 and unfortunately... destroying our economy in terms of what they're 0:23:44.020 --> 0:23:47.560 doing both for small businesses, households and the wider economy 0:23:47.580 --> 0:23:47.840 as well. 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:49.930 To your point, Holly, something has to give. 0:23:51.050 --> 0:23:51.669 Absolutely. 0:23:52.550 --> 0:23:56.320 Well, it's interesting. Holly, you know, you've got One nation 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.020 going from strength to strength. People still, you know, like 0:23:59.060 --> 0:24:01.379 I said, they keep predicting it's going to fail. It 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:03.730 hasn't yet. I still think there's, you know, a lot 0:24:03.770 --> 0:24:07.389 of potential things that can go wrong. And the coalition 0:24:07.430 --> 0:24:11.770 is still way behind them and both parties on just 21% 0:24:11.770 --> 0:24:16.369 in this poll. Do you think the coalition might gain 0:24:16.430 --> 0:24:18.330 ground with its new immigration policy? 0:24:19.170 --> 0:24:20.020 I don't think so. 0:24:20.100 --> 0:24:22.260 I think it's like turning up to the grand final 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:25.780 after everyone's already left and gone home. Everyone else has 0:24:25.820 --> 0:24:28.480 announced a policy. They look like they're just trying to 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:32.300 copy One Nation and haven't done it even as successfully there. 0:24:32.380 --> 0:24:34.940 I mean, who is going to sell it? I mean, 0:24:34.980 --> 0:24:37.310 if you saw the press conference trying to announce it, 0:24:37.340 --> 0:24:39.860 it was just an embarrassment. And the only one who 0:24:40.220 --> 0:24:41.980 I would have put any faith in trying to sell 0:24:42.020 --> 0:24:45.609 this message is John O'Donoghue, and he's eyeing the door 0:24:45.660 --> 0:24:49.730