Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to the Daily Telegraphon a podcast on Brent
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Speaker 1: what a weekend. How do you how do we sum
Speaker 1: this up? That we've got to start with all the
Speaker 1: drama and yesterday there was loads and loads of drama
Speaker 1: if you just catch you up. And the Roosters have
Speaker 1: been decimated, that lost Seam Walker, a cl gone for
Speaker 1: the year, Brandon Smith a cl gone for the year.
Speaker 1: Victor Radley's fractioned scapular and I'm very unlikely to plague
Speaker 1: in this year. I'd imagine almost I don't know what
Speaker 1: the deal is with a fractured scapital. A bit we
Speaker 1: saw brand his position in his position almost impossible. So
Speaker 1: devastating day if you're a Rooster's fan. Devastating day if
Speaker 1: you Rooster's official and player. What did you make of
Speaker 1: it watching it unfold?
Speaker 2: It was just it was just one thing after the other.
Speaker 2: Like it was bad enough that you know, to lose
Speaker 2: Sam Walker for an ac LA, especially with all the
Speaker 2: talk around Sam Walker about his future about you know
Speaker 2: he is, you know, probably a key guy in their
Speaker 2: spine if they are really going to challenge the likes
Speaker 2: of Penrith and the storm for the title and just
Speaker 2: and he's had such a good year, you know, and
Speaker 2: he has overcome quite a bit to get to where
Speaker 2: he is now. So it was really sort of sad
Speaker 2: to see him carried off the field. And then Brandon
Speaker 2: Smith goes down, and then you know, Victor Radley goes down,
Speaker 2: and you're thinking, and the f three important guys to
Speaker 2: what they're trying to do this year, and you're thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, the Roosters do have a decent rust and
Speaker 2: they do have some depth in those positions. They can
Speaker 2: cover those positions, but you think without those three guys,
Speaker 2: can they get the job done? And now it's looking
Speaker 2: less likely.
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting, right because you're right, they've got depth.
Speaker 1: I mean they've got covered for Brandon with Connor Watson
Speaker 1: and potentially Santa Smith. They're covered with Sammy Walkie can
Speaker 1: move blokes around. Victor's a huge loss role because he's protected, saying, well,
Speaker 1: he's moved to the edge is you and been amazing.
Speaker 1: So for me it's if you lost one, maybe you
Speaker 1: could cover the crap, but losing makes it almost impossible.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And they've dealt his injuries all year this year,
Speaker 3: haven't they. They've just been in and out, chopping and
Speaker 3: changing all years. So yeah, it makes it really difficult,
Speaker 3: especially coming into this point of the year when everyone's
Speaker 3: kind of needs to be at their best.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we saw yesterday how much it affected them too, right,
Speaker 3: just even without a like a noted goal kicker at
Speaker 3: the end there, Poor Luke Kerey has kicked four goals
Speaker 3: in his career is kind of tasked with that.
Speaker 2: It's tough.
Speaker 1: What do you do? Only if your Robbo put yourself
Speaker 1: in Robbo's shoes for a moment. You've got options, right,
Speaker 1: and take that half back. You can move Luke cured
Speaker 1: half and play you can put san In Smith at halfback, right,
Speaker 1: but you can maybe move Joey Marley to six and
Speaker 1: because Joe S'll be back this week, and play Luke
Speaker 1: Carey at halfback. I think they are the two obvious options.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's it for me, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1: Especially coach Robbie, which way are you going?
Speaker 2: What do you mean so Luke Kurrier the Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean so that would potentially work. I mean kinda
Speaker 2: Watson is another option, But then you almost think, no,
Speaker 2: do you leave him at nine, so he can also
Speaker 2: provide a bit of cover, you know, in that lock
Speaker 2: position Satate Smith. You know, he's the guy that they've
Speaker 2: sort of earmarked as the future in the halves potentially,
Speaker 2: But then you also think, you know, it is a
Speaker 2: big role to step in and to sort of you know,
Speaker 2: and he probably wouldn't be charged with taking on the side.
Speaker 2: I think that has to fall on the key in it.
Speaker 2: But it is a huge ass to ask of him.
Speaker 2: So look, I don't I don't mind the Joey Manu
Speaker 2: shout because they do have plenty of depth at the
Speaker 2: moment in the outside backs, like Robert's Okay, I will
Speaker 2: we will get that right. We might have to get
Speaker 2: that right this week. Yeah, But as in if they
Speaker 2: do go with Manu in the halves, but then it's
Speaker 2: it's that discussion of they weakening their outside backs for
Speaker 2: cover when they've got somebody like sand and Smith. He
Speaker 2: is a playmaker. So they do have options. But I
Speaker 2: don't know, I think if you're looking for experience, you
Speaker 2: probably go with Joey marn who. If you don't want
Speaker 2: to disrupt the outside backs too much, you go with
Speaker 2: sand and Smith, And then you know, They've got cover
Speaker 2: in the back row with you know, people like Stilly Chupreneur,
Speaker 2: you know who can come into Wong, So they have options.
Speaker 2: It's just it's the caliber of player that they've lost
Speaker 2: at the worst possible time that's really going to hurt them.
Speaker 1: I know the obvious one creates less disruption. They've ear
Speaker 1: marked him long term. But I reckon Joey man who
Speaker 1: has been a bit down this year, and I think
Speaker 1: he's been as I know, it's the injuries. I think
Speaker 1: he's been as dominants previous years. And I reckon, obviously
Speaker 1: he's leaving at the end of the year. If you
Speaker 1: give him the six years in say Joey, take us,
Speaker 1: take us to the end. I reckon, you might get
Speaker 1: the best out of Joey. Joey marn who again, and
Speaker 1: I reckon the more times Joey's got his hands on
Speaker 1: the ball, I just think the more dangerous they are.
Speaker 3: That's what I think too. Just with a guy like that,
Speaker 3: I think you're right he hasn't been as dominant. No,
Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, I think you're right there, But
Speaker 3: you're just giving a guy like that more time with
Speaker 3: the more control over a game. I think he's only
Speaker 3: going to be a good thing.
Speaker 1: I think the other is you've got is you take
Speaker 1: see him such a dominant player in that team, you
Speaker 1: take him out, and I think you've got to change that.
Speaker 1: You've almost got to change completely the way you play, right, Well,
Speaker 1: that's the h a completely different player.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well that's the thing about like about having
Speaker 2: johny Manhu there is obviously they would not have done
Speaker 2: any reps during the pre or not any but I'm
Speaker 2: likely to have done reps during the preseason where Sat
Speaker 2: and Smith is probably more familiar with you know, what
Speaker 2: that game plan would look like with those guys in
Speaker 2: the halfs. So yeah, I don't know. And it's is
Speaker 2: it too like is it too far gone in the
Speaker 2: season to be thinking about, you.
Speaker 1: Know, overhauling everything. Yeah, Robbo is a smart blake, and
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: They going to have to figure a lot.
Speaker 1: Of experienced players too. I reckon be able to do it.
Speaker 1: It'll be easier at a club like that where you've
Speaker 1: got a lot of guys have been together a long time,
Speaker 1: and they've been around the game a long time. They're
Speaker 1: pretty they could pick things up pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: I imagine the thing is and like, obviously they have
Speaker 2: a title to in now, but these are twelve months
Speaker 2: injury potentially, So what do they do then, Like, I
Speaker 2: know they've got you know, like you said, Sat and
Speaker 2: Smith in chad Town's end, but you know, do they
Speaker 2: have to now all of a sudden maybe look outside?
Speaker 1: You know, with problem is if you go and buy
Speaker 1: someone outside and Sammy Walker comes back in May next
Speaker 1: year and you've got chat and reserve as well, if
Speaker 1: you go and buy someone, then that's another body you
Speaker 1: don't necessarily need. Only one year sand back in April
Speaker 1: a potentially that might take a little while to get
Speaker 1: back in the stripe. But you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: you want to buy someone to bring in. I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone really of any quality would come for knowing
Speaker 1: they're there for four months and then yeah, go on anyway,
Speaker 1: So you know, I think the issue for them is now, right,
Speaker 1: I think next year takes care of itself because they've
Speaker 1: got enough. It's simply a lot of players going at
Speaker 1: the end of the year. Actually, you know, the last
Speaker 1: thing that could really afford to do is lose two
Speaker 1: bucks to ICLs, because there's a lot of change coming
Speaker 1: at that club. But I'm the big challenge for them
Speaker 1: is now and how they get through now. I mean
Speaker 1: it is kind of what's in the logical hooker I imagine,
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 2: Imagine, Yeah, you think. So they've got Zach to the
Speaker 2: clay as well in and around there. So I mean
Speaker 2: initially he moved to halves and then he moved to
Speaker 2: hooker when when Brad and Smith went down. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, and Sad and Smith is probably an option
Speaker 2: at hooker as well, if they do decide to go
Speaker 2: to Joey Marnu, if they want to reshuffle you know,
Speaker 2: the middle and then back row stocks to have kind
Speaker 2: of Watson playing at thirteen, which is a role that
Speaker 2: he said he sort of enjoyed a lot more, which
Speaker 2: he took over when Victor Radley you know, went to
Speaker 2: an edge. So they do have options. So it's just
Speaker 2: like you said, it's like putting all the pieces of
Speaker 2: the puzzle together. Now.
Speaker 1: The other big issue to commit to this game was
Speaker 1: the we love a Staus and Rogul league. We love them.
Speaker 1: This is a good one. Eliot Whitehead, the Trent Robinson.
Speaker 1: Elliott Whitehead made the tackle on Brandon Smith as a
Speaker 1: resulted in him suffering an acl tair. He's been charged
Speaker 1: this morning with Grade three dangerous contacts a hip drop.
Speaker 1: It's his fourth hip drop charge in the past three years,
Speaker 1: but the first one he's been suspended for. All the
Speaker 1: other has been Grade one chargers. He's looking at three
Speaker 1: to four matches now, Elliot, what it's gone. At the
Speaker 1: end of the year, He's going to England's going to
Speaker 1: Super League, so he's probably played his last game for
Speaker 1: Camber by the looks of it. But Elliott went up
Speaker 1: to Robbo after the game and said, look, how's Brandon.
Speaker 1: I want to apologize and let's hear this is Trent
Speaker 1: Robinson's version of what happened next.
Speaker 4: He came up and just wanted to ask how Brandon was.
Speaker 4: And I just sort of said, it's too many times.
Speaker 4: You know, the hip drop's been pretty common in his
Speaker 4: game for a long time, and I just said, it's
Speaker 4: too many times. You know, it's cost us a player.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 4: He said it was an accident, and I just said, look,
Speaker 4: you've done it too many times. That was it wasn't
Speaker 4: Elliot too many drums. Yeah, it's been a lot in
Speaker 4: his career, you know, so yeah, it's been pretty common
Speaker 4: if you go and have a look, it's not you know,
Speaker 4: I like Elliott, you know, I've watched him since he
Speaker 4: was in Bradford and Catalans and you know, but it's
Speaker 4: been pretty common and that that was what I said.
Speaker 4: I know he's opened it up here, which is why
Speaker 4: we're talking about it. And I wouldn't usually want to
Speaker 4: talk to you guys about it, but he opened it
Speaker 4: up and it's been really common in his game his
Speaker 4: whole career. So yeah, but he just in.
Speaker 1: The next running for the finals. How did you see
Speaker 1: the next few weeks? You believe those injuries half back
Speaker 1: see that as the experience.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's up to men CAIRI and I leaves the
Speaker 5: group to lead the way there. But as Robo said,
Speaker 5: throughout you have done the maiden door for us. I
Speaker 5: feel like depth in our squad is really strong and
Speaker 5: we've showing that throughout.
Speaker 2: The guys have been.
Speaker 1: Well there you go. That's Robo and look he was
Speaker 1: I've got to say he's really magnanimous about camera. Before
Speaker 1: that said we said they defend a great great word.
Speaker 1: You know, he was really he was really good about
Speaker 1: about Camber and he praised them and then obviously Elliott
Speaker 1: had already brought it up prior to that, so Robo
Speaker 1: has been asked about obviously. Look, I don't really like it,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think the issue for Robo
Speaker 1: is and I listened to talk back radio on the
Speaker 1: way in here this morning, and people raised some really
Speaker 1: valid points. You know, Robbo's coached Jaba Hargraves, Victor Radley,
Speaker 1: who in the past have had this morning, so as
Speaker 1: I said, elliotts had four charges. This is fourth charge
Speaker 1: in and Robert said his career has had a history
Speaker 1: of hip drops. Elliot's played the end of a long time.
Speaker 1: He's had four charges and as I said, three of
Speaker 1: them weren't even they weren't they were great ones. He
Speaker 1: wasn't suspended over them. This one's the first one he's
Speaker 1: been suspended for. Elliott opened opened up the door, I suppose,
Speaker 1: and Robbi he responded, but I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know to Basically, boths come to apologize and you've told
Speaker 1: him to go away and then criticize his record. Elliot's
Speaker 1: leaving the Inner at the end of the year. It's
Speaker 1: been a great player for Camp, but really low serving
Speaker 1: for them. And yeah, yeah, he's played the game tough
Speaker 1: and rough. But yeah, I don't know, you raise the
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 3: It is, so you raised the point about Dad Rea
Speaker 3: Hargraves and Victor Radley as well. I think that's the
Speaker 3: thing that doesn't quite sit well with me, like that's
Speaker 3: these guys. So I had a quick look this morning.
Speaker 3: So Dad Reuer Hargraves this year has been charged four
Speaker 3: times for a careless high tackle around thirteen, fifteen, eighteen,
Speaker 3: twenty five, and in round seven for dangerous contact. And
Speaker 3: Victor Radley has had two careless high tackle charges and
Speaker 3: then a dangerous contact charge in round twenty four as well.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's and then you can make the same
Speaker 2: argument that that's obviously part of their game or something,
Speaker 2: you know that they've been doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Yeah, I don't know. I just it just
Speaker 3: doesn't sit well with me to point out someone else's
Speaker 3: record when you know in your own backyard you've got
Speaker 3: these issues as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know, because obviously Elliott Whitehead when
Speaker 2: he spoke, he said, he said what he said, And
Speaker 2: I don't know whether Robbo had heard it yet because
Speaker 2: obviously they go in straight after each other, so.
Speaker 3: Maybe must have teed him up about it because it
Speaker 3: all told him, giving him the heads up, because said, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, I would normally not say this, but Elliot
Speaker 3: has already opened it up to.
Speaker 1: You guys, go the handle it better because he left
Speaker 1: himself open those you know, pam accusations of hypocrisy because
Speaker 1: he's had guys under his charge who've had long standing records,
Speaker 1: He've had issues their entire career. Now Elliott, as I said,
Speaker 1: I can't remember Earliot's been we should look at I'll
Speaker 1: look a up in the second Eliot, it's been the
Speaker 1: end of a long time. Four chargers, only one suspension
Speaker 1: over it, So I think as I said, this is.
Speaker 2: And maybe he thought the four chargers, So a lot
Speaker 2: of people didn't realize it was the four charges. You
Speaker 2: got that information this morning because like you, I was
Speaker 2: listening to talk back on the way in a lot
Speaker 2: of people did agree with you that, you know, it
Speaker 2: was a bit hypo critical of Robbo. Maybe he could
Speaker 2: have handled it better. And I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people were surprised because Robot is so articulate that he
Speaker 2: actually it felt. I mean, he says it wasn't personal,
Speaker 2: but you know, when a guy is about to finish
Speaker 2: up quite he could say, and illustrious, you know, and
Speaker 2: league career in general, somebody has played, you know, hundreds
Speaker 2: of games, four hundred games.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he doesn't say anything that he doesn't yet
Speaker 3: want to say. You know, he knows the wealthy impact
Speaker 3: of his words, and he chooses his words pretty carefully.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: So that's he played. He's played nine seasons and fortune
Speaker 1: four hip drop charges as I said, one band so
Speaker 1: to say his habitual defend offender. Yeah, it's a bit
Speaker 1: over the top for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is which is fair enough, you.
Speaker 1: Know, but but you've got to be like as I said,
Speaker 1: he was quite magnanimous earlier in that about Cambra. We
Speaker 1: didn't see that, but he spoke really glowingly about Canberra
Speaker 1: and and then to then sort of lose that, to
Speaker 1: then go in that direction with Elliott, Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: think he could handle it better. And he's normally Robbo's normally,
Speaker 1: as you said, he actually thinks about what he says.
Speaker 1: Very intelligent guy, very smart, very clever, and he thinks
Speaker 1: about what he says in those sort of environments. So
Speaker 1: you know, it's got a little bit of the whiff
Speaker 1: of calculation. About it.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, but just on that,
Speaker 2: like obviously the injuries happened at that point, maybe they
Speaker 2: did or didn't know that it was going to be
Speaker 2: an A c L. He knows he's been put on report.
Speaker 2: He you know, not to say that he's trying to
Speaker 2: put the message out there, but you know, sending that
Speaker 2: message to the Matter View committee. You know, this guy
Speaker 2: has a record. It's left you know, one of our
Speaker 2: key players with the A C L injury and and
Speaker 2: you know this morning it's a grade three you know,
Speaker 2: three week ban and he really he can only play
Speaker 2: if he gets it downgraded to a grade one at
Speaker 2: the judiciary. So maybe there was an element of that
Speaker 2: as well. You know.
Speaker 3: The thing is is I think it for someone like
Speaker 3: Elliott Whitehead to kind of go up and own his
Speaker 3: mistake though and to want to say, look, you know,
Speaker 3: I apologize. I think that is pretty classy. Like I
Speaker 3: feel like that's big of him as a person. And
Speaker 3: I'm sure like he's not any interaction I've had with him,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys are the same. Like he's just
Speaker 3: a genuine kind of fella. Like yeah, like he's a
Speaker 3: vindictive guy. He wouldn't he was a ten game, like,
Speaker 3: he did some pretty crazy things in that game.
Speaker 2: That's not the only charge reading from he's Is he
Speaker 2: the only person on the mattribute.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of charges that charge. You got charge
Speaker 1: for a little kickout it and kicking. I don't think
Speaker 1: you got him for that. He was trying to kick
Speaker 1: the ball, he didn't get Did he even kick? He
Speaker 1: didn't kick, So you can't pedal. It is enough for me.
Speaker 1: A warning on that one is the drop. It's ugly
Speaker 1: and but you know, hip drops. I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: ever deliberately hip drops someone. I don't think these are.
Speaker 2: Always but it has crept into our games. It's like
Speaker 2: a lazy and there's so many We had this discussion
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago about head high tackles. Right,
Speaker 2: there's so many reasons why tackles go wrong. But you know, but.
Speaker 1: Roberts just said it was part of his game that
Speaker 1: suggested the thing he does, like that's an insinuation he
Speaker 1: does that.
Speaker 3: Deliberately, or that he doesn't care enough to get.
Speaker 1: That's over the top. Yeah, so I know you're right.
Speaker 1: Puts some men's pressure on the Match Review committee when they's.
Speaker 2: Now that I think about it, you know that might
Speaker 2: have more to do. Obviously, he was just like Sam Walker.
Speaker 2: He's just like Victor A Lee as well, so he's emotional,
Speaker 2: I guess, even though he's seemed stoic. But the more
Speaker 2: I think about it, I'm like, yeah, maybe it was
Speaker 2: like you said, quite a bit calculated, but not neces
Speaker 2: necessarily having a personal attack at Whitehead, but more trying
Speaker 2: to influence the result of the of the match review.
Speaker 1: Comnit, let's cut the chase. Roostersn't there? I know, as
Speaker 1: we said, no Smith, no Walker, no Radley, can they
Speaker 1: win it? Give them a chance?
Speaker 2: I would say no now, but considering I mean, Tommy
Speaker 2: Turbo got injured on the weekend Pappenhausen, a small injury,
Speaker 2: like who knows what this last round is going to
Speaker 2: toss up. So I think they've gone into second favorites
Speaker 2: before injuries we've drifted out again.
Speaker 3: So they're in third now. That's what I was just
Speaker 3: looking at the point, so where they might finish up?
Speaker 1: So they're other big issue now is they will play
Speaker 1: likely Penrith in the Yeah, the finals. I think they've
Speaker 1: lost their last nine against Penrith, all true. Then if
Speaker 1: they lose, that flips from the other side of the drawer,
Speaker 1: which means so probably if they get through the prelim,
Speaker 1: they'll probably play Melbourne. They've lost ten of their past
Speaker 1: eleven against Melbourne, so the record was Pith Melbourne's diabolical.
Speaker 1: And now they've got no Walk and no Smith, no Radley.
Speaker 1: I think I think you've got to put a line
Speaker 1: through them.
Speaker 3: I think so too. Yeah, yeah, I think these injuries,
Speaker 3: which is not to overcome.
Speaker 2: Which is you know, disappointing in a way, is you know,
Speaker 2: I still believe that the premiere is either going to
Speaker 2: be the Storm or Penrith. And with the Rooster sort
Speaker 2: of they had found a bit of form scoring points.
Speaker 2: You think, okay, can they shake up the final series
Speaker 2: a little bit, and then now all of a sudden
Speaker 2: they've got three major injuries and it's back to two
Speaker 2: horse race at this point. I mean, do you think
Speaker 2: anybody outside of you know who we had Penrod Rooster's
Speaker 2: Storm can win the title?
Speaker 1: No? I don't think so too.
Speaker 2: I think that's what I mean. Yea, yah, absolutely, I
Speaker 2: don't think I can.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to one of the teams who won't
Speaker 1: be in the finals. The Broncos. It's my mighty Broncos,
Speaker 1: not so mighty. That was embarrassing. On the weekend. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins were really good, but the Broncos were just terrible,
Speaker 1: just terrible. What he's doing, well, they got a lot
Speaker 1: of they had a lot of injuries all year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, it's not it's not good enough. Even with injuries.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't play like this. I mean, they just got
Speaker 1: carved apart by the Dolphins. And Kevy is obviously coming
Speaker 1: off a Grand Final last year. He's coming out he
Speaker 1: is going to be under so much pressure to start
Speaker 1: next year, Kevy walters because you know, this is a
Speaker 1: club that should be playing finals football.
Speaker 2: If they missed the finals again, do you think she's gone?
Speaker 1: I think if they don't start next year, well, Kevy's
Speaker 1: in all sorts, all sorts of trouble. Yeah, kevys. The
Speaker 1: biggest thing, Kevy's got his favorites.
Speaker 3: That very popular.
Speaker 1: He's very popular out there, especially with the former players.
Speaker 2: The biggest thing is that the roster that he has, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's actually got you know.
Speaker 3: Injuries, have a bit of a look at that. So
Speaker 3: they have Adam Reynolds, so Adam Reynolds is coming into
Speaker 3: like that's his last year at the club. He'll be
Speaker 3: thirty five midway through next year as well, so then
Speaker 3: and he was dealt with so many injuries this year too,
Speaker 3: so he struggled a little bit and obviously has not
Speaker 3: returned to his best. And then we have Reese Welsh
Speaker 3: as well, who they've put you know, so much investment
Speaker 3: into Resolve which will likely cost yeah, but will likely
Speaker 3: cost them Selwyn Cobo or Catny Stags as well. It's
Speaker 3: you know, those question marks start to come up about
Speaker 3: the roster now when then when they're not performing, when.
Speaker 1: He's still got a roster that next year, it's the
Speaker 1: top four team for me.
Speaker 2: It should it shouldn't matter how you know, liked Kevys
Speaker 2: or you know who has his back up there, like
Speaker 2: he should be judged by what he can do with
Speaker 2: that roster because it is a good roster. And yes,
Speaker 2: there have been injuries, but you know Penrith have had injuries,
Speaker 2: you know, big injuries to people like Nathan Clearing. You know,
Speaker 2: the rooster is now going to be tested and you
Speaker 2: know the Storm have had injuries. Camera must have been
Speaker 2: out for a period Papen has been out for a period,
Speaker 2: so like you could say injuries, but yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: If you're a good team. If you're good, you know,
Speaker 3: you can deal with those things. But even like in
Speaker 3: the press conference the other night, he kind of didn't
Speaker 3: really have an answer for it, and then he kind
Speaker 3: of said, we said something like we lost four players
Speaker 3: out of our Grand Final team last year, so.
Speaker 2: Every year, and that was.
Speaker 1: Their choice they let go. They could have made him
Speaker 1: stay if they wanted to, but they let him go
Speaker 1: to the Warriors. So you know, I just think the
Speaker 1: flip side of that, this is the Dolphins. They were
Speaker 1: unbelievable and what a game this week. Now we've got
Speaker 1: Dolphins v. In Newcastle. I was in Newcastle yesterday. Carl
Speaker 1: and Poon are ridiculously good for Newcastle When he's on song,
Speaker 1: they're a very very good football team.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, be up there on Sunday as well.
Speaker 2: Going out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got to do sideline for an row.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, thirty thousand there before the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was brilliant, but he can't do it by himself, no,
Speaker 2: so he needs other people around him as well to
Speaker 2: be brilliant. To be honest, I didn't pick it. I
Speaker 2: thought the Dragons were going to steal that top eight spot.
Speaker 2: But you know, if about there were Broncos being diabolical,
Speaker 2: the Dragons were even more diabolical. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think Felice Cafusi got much on the weekend is
Speaker 2: as well. So that's a big loss for them in
Speaker 2: that game. But I think they're pretty I can't split them.
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, like Wayne Bennett made all
Speaker 2: these changes and everyone went, he's he He's okay. You know,
Speaker 2: like Jacob riis center all season, he moves him heah
Speaker 2: katoa hammer into the centers and tray for at fullback
Speaker 2: and you're thinking Wall.
Speaker 1: It's intriguing subplots in this game.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, so Wayne Bennett returning to Newcastle,
Speaker 3: he loves to beat his old sides. That's like one
Speaker 3: of the great thrills of his life. And then it's
Speaker 3: old boys Day as well fire too, so is a
Speaker 3: huge day.
Speaker 1: They tried to sign Calum Pomer a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Christian Wolf used to be on the Knights coaching staff
Speaker 1: and Shan O'Sullivan's.
Speaker 3: Interim coach for a little while.
Speaker 1: I was and Shaun O'Sullivan. His father Sullivan built the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: has now gone to move to Newcastle about a month
Speaker 1: ago to rebuild the Knights. So lots of intriguing little
Speaker 1: plots with it all. But you know, I think if look,
Speaker 1: it's interesting You've got two players who are in Carl
Speaker 1: and Ponger and the Hammer for the Dolphins, who can
Speaker 1: just turn a game on its head, and they're sort
Speaker 1: of the two keys from me. I mean, if whoever,
Speaker 1: whoever comes out on top of that battle will probably
Speaker 1: win the football game for their football team. Because as
Speaker 1: I said, Caylen was he was on from the start.
Speaker 1: You know, some days Calen sort of you can drift
Speaker 1: through a game, but he was on from the very start.
Speaker 1: Yesterday they just could. They just couldn't get near him.
Speaker 3: That's one of the great SARTs, isn't it When he good,
Speaker 3: Just when he's just floating around and he just with
Speaker 3: this play, Look, he just keeps following, keeps it alive.
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think Wayne Bennett will keep
Speaker 2: the same side.
Speaker 1: We loved Cody nic Aarma and Cody be back this week,
Speaker 1: so but you know it work with them. How can
Speaker 1: you change it? After what they did the way they're playing,
Speaker 1: and Cody can come off the bench and players at fourteen,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't see how you can change
Speaker 1: that team after the way they played that was bizarre.
Speaker 1: It looked like he'd hurt himself there, Carlen, but he
Speaker 1: was okay or something. You think of nights or Dolphins nights.
Speaker 3: Oh, I feel like it's going to be a say
Speaker 3: that with my heart, okay as a night.
Speaker 2: So my heart says nights, but my head says dolphins.
Speaker 2: Can I go that way?
Speaker 1: Can you can do that way?
Speaker 2: You can.
Speaker 1: Knights at home? As I said, to be thirty th
Speaker 1: at home. They get back this week. There's someone else
Speaker 1: got my cat of the top of my head, there's
Speaker 1: another one coming back as well, So they get a
Speaker 1: couple back this week. They'll be just about full strength.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: The only bloke that were missing Jacob Seffi. So the
Speaker 1: other intriguing subplot in that game is Daniel Sofferti, who
Speaker 1: then talks with the Dolphins about going the next year
Speaker 1: and he'll be playing against them this weekend. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: lots of little triggy something just on that you touched
Speaker 1: on the Dragons who were in the box going into
Speaker 1: the weekend and then completely ppitulated what.
Speaker 2: Is doing that was?
Speaker 1: And then while I was playing golf and I've gone
Speaker 1: on after the game, and when my mate said to me, Mate,
Speaker 1: I look at the score game it was forty four.
Speaker 1: It's like an old rugby game, Holden Cup game.
Speaker 3: What did they score like thirty something points in about
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: Something ridiculous like that. But I mean the scoreboard does
Speaker 2: not in any way reflect the Dragon's effort in that game.
Speaker 2: Like that's probably their worst season to put four years,
Speaker 2: and they have been disappointing in other big games where
Speaker 2: they sort of really needed to win, but with everything
Speaker 2: on the line against and you know, Power had been
Speaker 2: that sort of prickly team for some sides, you know,
Speaker 2: because they are a good team, but they should have
Speaker 2: known that. Yeah, and they just the energy there was
Speaker 2: went there, the enthusiasm weren't there, and it was just
Speaker 2: it was I just can't explain it's fun.
Speaker 1: I was filthy afterwards.
Speaker 2: I was feelthy afterwards, and rightly so you know, I
Speaker 2: wrote about this today.
Speaker 3: He's little bit of a spoke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, look, another thing I'm saying about
Speaker 2: this is normally the Dragons bounced back after a loss,
Speaker 2: so obviously they lost the week before against Connulla. Again
Speaker 2: again that they should have been up for the energy
Speaker 2: that and maybe they up until this point had overachieved
Speaker 2: and they're just sapped in terms of you know, energy levels.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there was a moment that was captured in
Speaker 2: the sheds where you know, obviously Flanna was quite disappointed
Speaker 2: and we saw even in the press that he walked
Speaker 2: out of the press I saying, look, I'm sorry, I apologize,
Speaker 2: but I'm just can't do this right now. And it
Speaker 2: was just a moment where he was obviously you know,
Speaker 2: pointing the finger a little bit, just showing I guess
Speaker 2: his displeasure. And you know, Ben Hunt didn't have a
Speaker 2: good game, and he probably hasn't had a good couple
Speaker 2: of weeks and it just didn't look good. And we
Speaker 2: all know that Ben Hunt has been slightly noncommittal in
Speaker 2: recent times over over his future the Dragons, and not
Speaker 2: to suggest that somehow, you know, means that that relationship
Speaker 2: is crumbled, but his relationship with the club is quite tenuous.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's an interesting times for the Dragons, like
Speaker 2: they could have been playing finals and they you know,
Speaker 2: they bottled two opportunities two weeks in the row. And
Speaker 2: I think that's what's probably really pissed Flannel off more
Speaker 2: than anything, the fact that they just didn't respond after
Speaker 2: the Cronulla loss and.
Speaker 3: The future has been in their own hands.
Speaker 2: They have just each time let it slip.
Speaker 3: I will say, though, incredibly frustrating.
Speaker 2: I think we all had them as wooden spooners, So
Speaker 2: ninth or ninth finish, maybe they might finish. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not a final series in his first year, but
Speaker 2: they are one of the better improving teams in the competition.
Speaker 2: And they've got some you know, Damien Cook coming next
Speaker 2: year of our homes potentially r CG or you know,
Speaker 2: one of the CEPHETI so you know, and he has
Speaker 2: managed to get the best out of the likes of
Speaker 2: Sewer and Michiana and Sully and the rest of it.
Speaker 2: So it's not dire, but it is disappointing.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you It's done a great coaching job this season,
Speaker 1: although and again they had a terrible setback on the
Speaker 1: weekend was the Bulldogs. Camon Sirealdo. We spoke about the Dogs,
Speaker 1: I mean pre season, early in the year. Always spoke
Speaker 1: about the Dogs was two things. Yea, they lacked the
Speaker 1: half and they lacked medals that were too small. And
Speaker 1: most of the year they've covered that really well. I mean,
Speaker 1: their forward has been unbelievable. But you know what, Mainly
Speaker 1: absolutely trampled them the other night and Matt Lodge and
Speaker 1: Taniela Piseca in the only twenty minutes just threw them.
Speaker 3: It was three huge bodies. Really, there's nothing really you
Speaker 3: can do to make up for that.
Speaker 4: Is there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think I mean, I don't know statistically
Speaker 2: off the top of my head, but Manly do have
Speaker 2: one of the bigger forward packs, right. So it was
Speaker 2: always that sort of size, the agility thing that has
Speaker 2: worked so well for the Bulldogs up until this was
Speaker 2: going to be tested, and so was you know, it
Speaker 2: was DC ever Sexton, you know, and even Sero admitted
Speaker 2: himself that, you know, Cherry Evans was part of the
Speaker 2: difference in the way he controlled that game and they
Speaker 2: just didn't have have that. So I spoke to one.
Speaker 1: Of the players after the game, one of the many players,
Speaker 1: and he said, a good big man will always be
Speaker 1: a good small man.
Speaker 3: Especially if you lers and had a bit of a role.
Speaker 3: If you let him get ahead Sea, it's really hard
Speaker 3: to catch up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he came to a coss from me only obviously
Speaker 1: with Tommy and Jason. Jason subs well, it looks like
Speaker 1: Tommy will be right the same for around one of
Speaker 1: the finals. Obviously he can play. It's an ac joint.
Speaker 1: You can play with the needle in that. Obviously you
Speaker 1: play a little bit of pain. But Tommy seeing.
Speaker 2: As as well for Canterbury, he finished the game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he's managing some sort of bruising swelling.
Speaker 1: Look he looks at those and all sorts. He's highly
Speaker 1: unlikely by the sounds of it, to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this year, from what I heard this morning, best
Speaker 2: case scenario is like week two of the finals. But
Speaker 2: that is absolutely the best case scenario. They're still sort
Speaker 2: of trying to determine whether or not surgery is required,
Speaker 2: and obviously then he's done so.
Speaker 1: Sets up a huge game. Actually this week potentially there's
Speaker 1: mainly Bulldogs play North Queensland and the winner of that
Speaker 1: game is guaranteed our own final, and the loser he's
Speaker 1: got to wait to see what happens with the mount
Speaker 1: and Cronulla Sunday, So if the loser, Manly could potentially
Speaker 1: leap from them for a home final. So it's set
Speaker 1: up a great game between the Cowboys and Bulldogs this week.
Speaker 1: Who you got You've got that Cowboys Dogs Stown's no, no, it's.
Speaker 2: A it's a cool you think no Matt Burden as well?
Speaker 2: I think he found a potentially no Fox, no Brons
Speaker 2: and Cherry.
Speaker 1: I'll go Bulldogs, Bulldogs? What are you thinking?
Speaker 3: I go Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Okay, I might go to the Cowboys as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Manly Cronella, I think Manly Tommy Tommy.
Speaker 1: That hurts something. That game has already sold out Mainlyy
Speaker 1: have sold out eight of their ten games a year
Speaker 1: at full pains.
Speaker 3: Incredible.
Speaker 1: They need grand on the northern beaches. Can we get
Speaker 1: moving on that pip and some money?
Speaker 2: Can you find some an election friends? Electionaire?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean we're only Why do you think goes.
Speaker 1: Into He looks cooler as well. Toler cool has been
Speaker 1: played there and been really good at the end of
Speaker 1: last year, and he's back back in from back to
Speaker 1: full fitness. Have plenty of options. That's Friday, that's a
Speaker 1: Sunday game. Sunday too. In the Bulldogs game too manly.
Speaker 1: Actually we almost moved. They're talking about spoon ball Campbelltown Stadium,
Speaker 1: Tigers v.
Speaker 2: That's going to be at six pm. Because of the
Speaker 2: six pm. Might do a bit, but there'll be a
Speaker 2: big crowd. There's so hard to pick because.
Speaker 3: With any confidence.
Speaker 2: But I think let's get the Tigers. They've had such
Speaker 2: a you know rough yere, there have been some green
Speaker 2: shoots there are yeah, yeah, I know the kids are.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, Heath Mason might play, obviously, Gavin will play,
Speaker 2: maybe Talon, you know, all those Campbelltown kids's last game
Speaker 2: for FOS, last game, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Canbletown Stadium.
Speaker 3: But I know something just with the Eels, I just
Speaker 3: think that even though they've had such a horrible season,
Speaker 3: that there's like a there would be a pride factor
Speaker 3: within those players. I think they will do anything just
Speaker 3: to avoid it. Yeah, so I'm going to go Para.
Speaker 1: I got the Tigers. The Tigers will get the job done.
Speaker 1: Cameltown all right, Well.
Speaker 2: Who would have thought that? If that happens, the Tigers
Speaker 2: I think will finish the season with more wins than paramatter,
Speaker 2: maybe the draws.
Speaker 1: The annimal has been blessed with the drawer the way
Speaker 1: it's worked out, because everything's almost just round.
Speaker 3: Someone really up yesterday to me the idea of the
Speaker 3: what was it the wild card round. I don't need
Speaker 3: the last place in the finals. I don't need it.
Speaker 3: It's around twenty seven.
Speaker 1: It's been Yeah, there's nearly every game counts for something
Speaker 1: this yeah, yeah, which is unusual.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now let's move on to what you're watching. What you
Speaker 1: got from the fans this week? So stuff.
Speaker 3: I have been away for two weeks. So I was
Speaker 3: over in Europe for two weeks. Life Life, so Portugal
Speaker 3: and Spain old eally No, we spent a week in
Speaker 3: Lisbonka from Lisbon.
Speaker 1: He loves it.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful. Yeah, absolutely loved it the stinking hot But
Speaker 3: on the plane back I tried to stay awake the
Speaker 3: whole time so I could avoid jet lag, which I
Speaker 3: actually think I've done pretty well. And I watched The
Speaker 3: Fall Guy. Yeah, I loved it. So it's a movie
Speaker 3: with Ryan, Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt. It's said in Sydney,
Speaker 3: and so you can kind of pick out little places
Speaker 3: that you recognize and things like that. So good.
Speaker 1: Sure I haven't seen this is it's so funny good.
Speaker 3: It's really good. Yeah, so I think you can get
Speaker 3: it on Amazon Prime at the moment. So it was
Speaker 3: at the movies not that long ago. So funny, yeah,
Speaker 3: very well worth a watch.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was shutting Sydney.
Speaker 3: Shot in Sydney. Yeah, so they yeah all along Sydney
Speaker 3: Harbor and things like that. So it's basically about he's
Speaker 3: a stunt man. He gets in and then they asked
Speaker 3: him to come back to do this movie that's set
Speaker 3: in Sydney and he's in love with the girl.
Speaker 1: There's a love stories.
Speaker 3: It's a love story. She's the directors so keen on it.
Speaker 3: But it's like action. We go yeah, no, so it's action.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, lots of stunts. It's hilarious.
Speaker 2: I've got the new Mark Wohlberg and the Berry movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah the Union. Oh I only watched about an hour
Speaker 2: before I fell asleep. Not to say that I was
Speaker 2: no recommendation, it was just it was just a late
Speaker 2: night yeah. Fun. It's not very like deep, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's just like it's just like an
Speaker 2: action movie. Yeah, it's just an action movie with two
Speaker 2: Hollywood stars. I think they're blowing the budget on Halle
Speaker 2: Berry and Mark Welber because I didn't recognize any other
Speaker 2: actor those two in it. Spy movie set in London,
Speaker 2: lots of explosions, car chases.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, my wheelhouse. Okay, I've got I've got The
Speaker 1: bee Keeper, I think. So I watch this on Fox.
Speaker 1: I think the other day. Jason Statham, I've always want them. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want his name, Jason Statham, and I love jose
Speaker 1: He that makes great movies. Jason Statham action movies. Think
Speaker 1: too much beating people up and shooting them and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit far fetched, I've got to say. Well,
Speaker 1: so it's called The Beekeeper because the idea is that
Speaker 1: there's this group of people in society they called beekeepers,
Speaker 1: and their job is to make sure society is balanced. Right,
Speaker 1: It's balanced because that's what the bees do for something.
Speaker 1: They call them beekeepers. He's a beekeeper. So he's just
Speaker 1: basically a killer this movie. He just kills lots eassin
Speaker 1: just to make sure society is societies equilibrium. He just
Speaker 1: he just kills a lot of people and society better.
Speaker 2: So that's literally his job. He has to kill people
Speaker 2: to keep society.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Beig Keeper. I really like his movie. His
Speaker 1: movies are great because I'd love.
Speaker 3: To see him in wrong com.
Speaker 1: Has one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's we don't remember.
Speaker 1: That tells you how good it was. He's always blowing
Speaker 1: up blokes and shooting people.
Speaker 3: Is the movie.
Speaker 1: They are a lot. I like his movies are They're
Speaker 1: very good. The Mechanics a good one. He did the
Speaker 1: Mechanics series. They're very good. A big fan of Jason Statham,
Speaker 1: or Standham or state stand It was the Beekeeper.
Speaker 2: I just googled whether or not he's got wrong com.
Speaker 2: The first headline that came up with Hollywood needs to
Speaker 2: give Jason Statham a wrong com. That's twenty four, so
Speaker 2: somebody wrote that this year.
Speaker 1: Appreciate on what will happened? I'm sure, Yeah, we'll. We'll
Speaker 1: picture the movie. Producers a lot of script for him.
Speaker 2: We'll put your mind from off season project. But we're
Speaker 2: doing hard Knocks.
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks obviously a huge weekend this weekend. You'll get
Speaker 1: the podcast on Thursday and then the footy starts. So enjoyed, folks,
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us.
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