WEBVTT - Roosters Carnage Sparks Robbo Spat 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.240 Hello, welcome to the Daily Telegraphon a podcast on Brent 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.480 Red joined BBKM whalleyf and said, we could do Wow, 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:16.680 what a weekend. How do you how do we sum 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.239 this up? That we've got to start with all the 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.160 drama and yesterday there was loads and loads of drama 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:24.680 if you just catch you up. And the Roosters have 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.319 been decimated, that lost Seam Walker, a cl gone for 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.240 the year, Brandon Smith a cl gone for the year. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:35.200 Victor Radley's fractioned scapular and I'm very unlikely to plague 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.280 in this year. I'd imagine almost I don't know what 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:39.479 the deal is with a fractured scapital. A bit we 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.680 saw brand his position in his position almost impossible. So 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.760 devastating day if you're a Rooster's fan. Devastating day if 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.519 you Rooster's official and player. What did you make of 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:51.840 it watching it unfold? 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.120 It was just it was just one thing after the other. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.240 Like it was bad enough that you know, to lose 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.400 Sam Walker for an ac LA, especially with all the 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.120 talk around Sam Walker about his future about you know 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.880 he is, you know, probably a key guy in their 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.119 spine if they are really going to challenge the likes 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.640 of Penrith and the storm for the title and just 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.200 and he's had such a good year, you know, and 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.480 he has overcome quite a bit to get to where 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.000 he is now. So it was really sort of sad 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.520 to see him carried off the field. And then Brandon 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.720 Smith goes down, and then you know, Victor Radley goes down, 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.440 and you're thinking, and the f three important guys to 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.440 what they're trying to do this year, and you're thinking, 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.080 you know, the Roosters do have a decent rust and 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.319 they do have some depth in those positions. They can 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.840 cover those positions, but you think without those three guys, 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.039 can they get the job done? And now it's looking 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:40.080 less likely. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.400 Well, it's interesting, right because you're right, they've got depth. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.840 I mean they've got covered for Brandon with Connor Watson 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:49.200 and potentially Santa Smith. They're covered with Sammy Walkie can 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:54.040 move blokes around. Victor's a huge loss role because he's protected, saying, well, 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:55.880 he's moved to the edge is you and been amazing. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.840 So for me it's if you lost one, maybe you 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.760 could cover the crap, but losing makes it almost impossible. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.240 Absolutely, And they've dealt his injuries all year this year, 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.120 haven't they. They've just been in and out, chopping and 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.880 changing all years. So yeah, it makes it really difficult, 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.080 especially coming into this point of the year when everyone's 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:13.760 kind of needs to be at their best. 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:14.240 Yeah. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.800 Yeah, and we saw yesterday how much it affected them too, right, 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:21.840 just even without a like a noted goal kicker at 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.280 the end there, Poor Luke Kerey has kicked four goals 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.320 in his career is kind of tasked with that. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:29.200 It's tough. 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.400 What do you do? Only if your Robbo put yourself 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.639 in Robbo's shoes for a moment. You've got options, right, 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.720 and take that half back. You can move Luke cured 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:42.240 half and play you can put san In Smith at halfback, right, 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.760 but you can maybe move Joey Marley to six and 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.079 because Joe S'll be back this week, and play Luke 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.960 Carey at halfback. I think they are the two obvious options. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.120 Right, Yeah, that's it for me, I think, yeah. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.280 Especially coach Robbie, which way are you going? 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:02.239 What do you mean so Luke Kurrier the Yeah, yeah, 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.040 I mean so that would potentially work. I mean kinda 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.120 Watson is another option, But then you almost think, no, 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.120 do you leave him at nine, so he can also 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.480 provide a bit of cover, you know, in that lock 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:15.239 position Satate Smith. You know, he's the guy that they've 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.919 sort of earmarked as the future in the halves potentially, 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.760 But then you also think, you know, it is a 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.360 big role to step in and to sort of you know, 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.960 and he probably wouldn't be charged with taking on the side. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.440 I think that has to fall on the key in it. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.519 But it is a huge ass to ask of him. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.520 So look, I don't I don't mind the Joey Manu 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.680 shout because they do have plenty of depth at the 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:47.920 moment in the outside backs, like Robert's Okay, I will 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.400 we will get that right. We might have to get 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.400 that right this week. Yeah, But as in if they 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.200 do go with Manu in the halves, but then it's 0:03:55.280 --> 0:04:00.360 it's that discussion of they weakening their outside backs for 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.960 cover when they've got somebody like sand and Smith. He 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.920 is a playmaker. So they do have options. But I 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.000 don't know, I think if you're looking for experience, you 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.000 probably go with Joey marn who. If you don't want 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.400 to disrupt the outside backs too much, you go with 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.960 sand and Smith, And then you know, They've got cover 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.040 in the back row with you know, people like Stilly Chupreneur, 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:24.040 you know who can come into Wong, So they have options. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.080 It's just it's the caliber of player that they've lost 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.280 at the worst possible time that's really going to hurt them. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:34.280 I know the obvious one creates less disruption. They've ear 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.840 marked him long term. But I reckon Joey man who 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.120 has been a bit down this year, and I think 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.560 he's been as I know, it's the injuries. I think 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.600 he's been as dominants previous years. And I reckon, obviously 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.680 he's leaving at the end of the year. If you 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.280 give him the six years in say Joey, take us, 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.640 take us to the end. I reckon, you might get 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.160 the best out of Joey. Joey marn who again, and 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.160 I reckon the more times Joey's got his hands on 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.640 the ball, I just think the more dangerous they are. 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.160 That's what I think too. Just with a guy like that, 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:05.600 I think you're right he hasn't been as dominant. No, 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.520 And I think, yeah, I think you're right there, But 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.680 you're just giving a guy like that more time with 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.200 the more control over a game. I think he's only 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:13.960 going to be a good thing. 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:15.440 I think the other is you've got is you take 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.159 see him such a dominant player in that team, you 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.520 take him out, and I think you've got to change that. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.280 You've almost got to change completely the way you play, right, Well, 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.679 that's the h a completely different player. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:30.279 Yeah. Yeah, Well that's the thing about like about having 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.440 johny Manhu there is obviously they would not have done 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.600 any reps during the pre or not any but I'm 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.840 likely to have done reps during the preseason where Sat 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:42.080 and Smith is probably more familiar with you know, what 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.200 that game plan would look like with those guys in 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.880 the halfs. So yeah, I don't know. And it's is 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:49.880 it too like is it too far gone in the 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.000 season to be thinking about, you. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.360 Know, overhauling everything. Yeah, Robbo is a smart blake, and 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:56.120 you know. 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:57.960 They going to have to figure a lot. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.120 Of experienced players too. I reckon be able to do it. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.160 It'll be easier at a club like that where you've 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.080 got a lot of guys have been together a long time, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.159 and they've been around the game a long time. They're 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.200 pretty they could pick things up pretty quickly. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.039 I imagine the thing is and like, obviously they have 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.800 a title to in now, but these are twelve months 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.200 injury potentially, So what do they do then, Like, I 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:20.800 know they've got you know, like you said, Sat and 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.320 Smith in chad Town's end, but you know, do they 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:28.159 have to now all of a sudden maybe look outside? 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:30.840 You know, with problem is if you go and buy 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.039 someone outside and Sammy Walker comes back in May next 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.200 year and you've got chat and reserve as well, if 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.359 you go and buy someone, then that's another body you 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:45.400 don't necessarily need. Only one year sand back in April 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.760 a potentially that might take a little while to get 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.080 back in the stripe. But you know, I don't think 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.960 you want to buy someone to bring in. I don't 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.680 think anyone really of any quality would come for knowing 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.560 they're there for four months and then yeah, go on anyway, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.560 So you know, I think the issue for them is now, right, 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.440 I think next year takes care of itself because they've 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.560 got enough. It's simply a lot of players going at 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.279 the end of the year. Actually, you know, the last 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.800 thing that could really afford to do is lose two 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.480 bucks to ICLs, because there's a lot of change coming 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.720 at that club. But I'm the big challenge for them 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.320 is now and how they get through now. I mean 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:21.080 it is kind of what's in the logical hooker I imagine, 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:22.280 I would. 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.160 Imagine, Yeah, you think. So they've got Zach to the 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:28.160 clay as well in and around there. So I mean 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.400 initially he moved to halves and then he moved to 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:34.080 hooker when when Brad and Smith went down. So yeah, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.640 I mean, and Sad and Smith is probably an option 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.440 at hooker as well, if they do decide to go 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.400 to Joey Marnu, if they want to reshuffle you know, 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.240 the middle and then back row stocks to have kind 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.240 of Watson playing at thirteen, which is a role that 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.920 he said he sort of enjoyed a lot more, which 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.120 he took over when Victor Radley you know, went to 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:57.120 an edge. So they do have options. So it's just 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.240 like you said, it's like putting all the pieces of 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.120 the puzzle together. Now. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:02.920 The other big issue to commit to this game was 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.679 the we love a Staus and Rogul league. We love them. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.960 This is a good one. Eliot Whitehead, the Trent Robinson. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.680 Elliott Whitehead made the tackle on Brandon Smith as a 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:17.280 resulted in him suffering an acl tair. He's been charged 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:20.320 this morning with Grade three dangerous contacts a hip drop. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.440 It's his fourth hip drop charge in the past three years, 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.320 but the first one he's been suspended for. All the 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.560 other has been Grade one chargers. He's looking at three 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.320 to four matches now, Elliot, what it's gone. At the 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:30.680 end of the year, He's going to England's going to 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.400 Super League, so he's probably played his last game for 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.080 Camber by the looks of it. But Elliott went up 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.000 to Robbo after the game and said, look, how's Brandon. 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.960 I want to apologize and let's hear this is Trent 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:48.559 Robinson's version of what happened next. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.880 He came up and just wanted to ask how Brandon was. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.480 And I just sort of said, it's too many times. 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.560 You know, the hip drop's been pretty common in his 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.640 game for a long time, and I just said, it's 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.560 too many times. You know, it's cost us a player. 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:06.120 That was it. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.200 He said it was an accident, and I just said, look, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:12.960 you've done it too many times. That was it wasn't 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:17.080 Elliot too many drums. Yeah, it's been a lot in 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:21.000 his career, you know, so yeah, it's been pretty common 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.440 if you go and have a look, it's not you know, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.200 I like Elliott, you know, I've watched him since he 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.959 was in Bradford and Catalans and you know, but it's 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:32.840 been pretty common and that that was what I said. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.800 I know he's opened it up here, which is why 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:38.439 we're talking about it. And I wouldn't usually want to 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.360 talk to you guys about it, but he opened it 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.480 up and it's been really common in his game his 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.800 whole career. So yeah, but he just in. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.240 The next running for the finals. How did you see 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.320 the next few weeks? You believe those injuries half back 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:56.480 see that as the experience. 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.599 Yeah, it's up to men CAIRI and I leaves the 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.600 group to lead the way there. But as Robo said, 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:06.800 throughout you have done the maiden door for us. I 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.120 feel like depth in our squad is really strong and 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:10.959 we've showing that throughout. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:11.880 The guys have been. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.440 Well there you go. That's Robo and look he was 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.920 I've got to say he's really magnanimous about camera. Before 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.360 that said we said they defend a great great word. 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.439 You know, he was really he was really good about 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:30.400 about Camber and he praised them and then obviously Elliott 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.480 had already brought it up prior to that, so Robo 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:37.559 has been asked about obviously. Look, I don't really like it, 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.160 you know, I think I think the issue for Robo 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:41.880 is and I listened to talk back radio on the 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.600 way in here this morning, and people raised some really 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.840 valid points. You know, Robbo's coached Jaba Hargraves, Victor Radley, 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:56.800 who in the past have had this morning, so as 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.480 I said, elliotts had four charges. This is fourth charge 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.840 in and Robert said his career has had a history 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.360 of hip drops. Elliot's played the end of a long time. 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.079 He's had four charges and as I said, three of 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.240 them weren't even they weren't they were great ones. He 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.480 wasn't suspended over them. This one's the first one he's 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:17.120 been suspended for. Elliott opened opened up the door, I suppose, 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:21.440 and Robbi he responded, but I don't know, I don't 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.760 know to Basically, boths come to apologize and you've told 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:28.120 him to go away and then criticize his record. Elliot's 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:29.680 leaving the Inner at the end of the year. It's 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.679 been a great player for Camp, but really low serving 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.720 for them. And yeah, yeah, he's played the game tough 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.800 and rough. But yeah, I don't know, you raise the 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:39.840 of it. 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:41.600 It is, so you raised the point about Dad Rea 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.040 Hargraves and Victor Radley as well. I think that's the 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.640 thing that doesn't quite sit well with me, like that's 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.360 these guys. So I had a quick look this morning. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:54.400 So Dad Reuer Hargraves this year has been charged four 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.880 times for a careless high tackle around thirteen, fifteen, eighteen, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.760 twenty five, and in round seven for dangerous contact. And 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.320 Victor Radley has had two careless high tackle charges and 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.920 then a dangerous contact charge in round twenty four as well. 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.600 So yeah, it's and then you can make the same 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.600 argument that that's obviously part of their game or something, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:14.880 you know that they've been doing that. 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.880 Yeah, right, Yeah, I don't know. I just it just 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.200 doesn't sit well with me to point out someone else's 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.400 record when you know in your own backyard you've got 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:24.400 these issues as well. 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.920 Yeah, And I don't know, because obviously Elliott Whitehead when 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.559 he spoke, he said, he said what he said, And 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.960 I don't know whether Robbo had heard it yet because 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.880 obviously they go in straight after each other, so. 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.400 Maybe must have teed him up about it because it 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.679 all told him, giving him the heads up, because said, oh, 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.480 you know, I would normally not say this, but Elliot 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:48.520 has already opened it up to. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.800 You guys, go the handle it better because he left 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:56.959 himself open those you know, pam accusations of hypocrisy because 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.480 he's had guys under his charge who've had long standing records, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.080 He've had issues their entire career. Now Elliott, as I said, 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.000 I can't remember Earliot's been we should look at I'll 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:07.280 look a up in the second Eliot, it's been the 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.520 end of a long time. Four chargers, only one suspension 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.440 over it, So I think as I said, this is. 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.200 And maybe he thought the four chargers, So a lot 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.000 of people didn't realize it was the four charges. You 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.640 got that information this morning because like you, I was 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.000 listening to talk back on the way in a lot 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.920 of people did agree with you that, you know, it 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.520 was a bit hypo critical of Robbo. Maybe he could 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.240 have handled it better. And I think a lot of 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.040 people were surprised because Robot is so articulate that he 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.199 actually it felt. I mean, he says it wasn't personal, 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.800 but you know, when a guy is about to finish 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.480 up quite he could say, and illustrious, you know, and 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:45.160 league career in general, somebody has played, you know, hundreds 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.400 of games, four hundred games. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.520 But yeah, he doesn't say anything that he doesn't yet 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.800 want to say. You know, he knows the wealthy impact 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.880 of his words, and he chooses his words pretty carefully. 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:57.200 I think. 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:01.840 So that's he played. He's played nine seasons and fortune 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.560 four hip drop charges as I said, one band so 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:09.520 to say his habitual defend offender. Yeah, it's a bit 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:10.320 over the top for me. 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:12.920 Yeah, which is which is fair enough, you. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:17.400 Know, but but you've got to be like as I said, 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.960 he was quite magnanimous earlier in that about Cambra. We 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.640 didn't see that, but he spoke really glowingly about Canberra 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:28.440 and and then to then sort of lose that, to 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:32.200 then go in that direction with Elliott, Yeah, I just 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.040 think he could handle it better. And he's normally Robbo's normally, 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.800 as you said, he actually thinks about what he says. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:45.240 Very intelligent guy, very smart, very clever, and he thinks 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.320 about what he says in those sort of environments. So 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.200 you know, it's got a little bit of the whiff 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:52.400 of calculation. About it. 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:53.840 I was just going to say, but just on that, 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.120 like obviously the injuries happened at that point, maybe they 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.120 did or didn't know that it was going to be 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.240 an A c L. He knows he's been put on report. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.280 He you know, not to say that he's trying to 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.000 put the message out there, but you know, sending that 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.480 message to the Matter View committee. You know, this guy 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.960 has a record. It's left you know, one of our 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:19.240 key players with the A C L injury and and 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.760 you know this morning it's a grade three you know, 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.320 three week ban and he really he can only play 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.360 if he gets it downgraded to a grade one at 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.920 the judiciary. So maybe there was an element of that 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.160 as well. You know. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.560 The thing is is I think it for someone like 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.400 Elliott Whitehead to kind of go up and own his 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.240 mistake though and to want to say, look, you know, 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:45.080 I apologize. I think that is pretty classy. Like I 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.640 feel like that's big of him as a person. And 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.720 I'm sure like he's not any interaction I've had with him, 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.800 I'm sure you guys are the same. Like he's just 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.640 a genuine kind of fella. Like yeah, like he's a 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.120 vindictive guy. He wouldn't he was a ten game, like, 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.480 he did some pretty crazy things in that game. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:08.720 That's not the only charge reading from he's Is he 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.240 the only person on the mattribute. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.520 There's a couple of charges that charge. You got charge 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:22.720 for a little kickout it and kicking. I don't think 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.720 you got him for that. He was trying to kick 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:28.160 the ball, he didn't get Did he even kick? He 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:34.280 didn't kick, So you can't pedal. It is enough for me. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.720 A warning on that one is the drop. It's ugly 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.440 and but you know, hip drops. I don't think anyone 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.480 ever deliberately hip drops someone. I don't think these are. 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:51.040 Always but it has crept into our games. It's like 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.480 a lazy and there's so many We had this discussion 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.200 a couple of weeks ago about head high tackles. Right, 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:01.840 there's so many reasons why tackles go wrong. But you know, but. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.480 Roberts just said it was part of his game that 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.399 suggested the thing he does, like that's an insinuation he 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:07.840 does that. 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.800 Deliberately, or that he doesn't care enough to get. 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.520 That's over the top. Yeah, so I know you're right. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.680 Puts some men's pressure on the Match Review committee when they's. 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:18.880 Now that I think about it, you know that might 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.359 have more to do. Obviously, he was just like Sam Walker. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.840 He's just like Victor A Lee as well, so he's emotional, 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.160 I guess, even though he's seemed stoic. But the more 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:30.879 I think about it, I'm like, yeah, maybe it was 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.040 like you said, quite a bit calculated, but not neces 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:37.160 necessarily having a personal attack at Whitehead, but more trying 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.520 to influence the result of the of the match review. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.320 Comnit, let's cut the chase. Roostersn't there? I know, as 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.879 we said, no Smith, no Walker, no Radley, can they 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:48.840 win it? Give them a chance? 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.359 I would say no now, but considering I mean, Tommy 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.880 Turbo got injured on the weekend Pappenhausen, a small injury, 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.439 like who knows what this last round is going to 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.959 toss up. So I think they've gone into second favorites 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.560 before injuries we've drifted out again. 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:08.560 So they're in third now. That's what I was just 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.520 looking at the point, so where they might finish up? 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.800 So they're other big issue now is they will play 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.280 likely Penrith in the Yeah, the finals. I think they've 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:21.239 lost their last nine against Penrith, all true. Then if 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.359 they lose, that flips from the other side of the drawer, 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.560 which means so probably if they get through the prelim, 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.240 they'll probably play Melbourne. They've lost ten of their past 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.679 eleven against Melbourne, so the record was Pith Melbourne's diabolical. 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.800 And now they've got no Walk and no Smith, no Radley. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:36.960 I think I think you've got to put a line 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:37.640 through them. 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:41.000 I think so too. Yeah, yeah, I think these injuries, 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:42.879 which is not to overcome. 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.840 Which is you know, disappointing in a way, is you know, 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.560 I still believe that the premiere is either going to 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.080 be the Storm or Penrith. And with the Rooster sort 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.520 of they had found a bit of form scoring points. 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.720 You think, okay, can they shake up the final series 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.160 a little bit, and then now all of a sudden 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.320 they've got three major injuries and it's back to two 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.160 horse race at this point. I mean, do you think 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:06.920 anybody outside of you know who we had Penrod Rooster's 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:09.400 Storm can win the title? 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.280 No? I don't think so too. 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.480 I think that's what I mean. Yea, yah, absolutely, I 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:16.119 don't think I can. 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.760 Let's move on to one of the teams who won't 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.560 be in the finals. The Broncos. It's my mighty Broncos, 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.879 not so mighty. That was embarrassing. On the weekend. The 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:30.160 Dolphins were really good, but the Broncos were just terrible, 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.040 just terrible. What he's doing, well, they got a lot 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.440 of they had a lot of injuries all year. Yeah, 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.160 I know, it's not it's not good enough. Even with injuries. 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.240 You shouldn't play like this. I mean, they just got 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:46.480