1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Today's biggest news from the Australian Unclaire Harvey. Peace in 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: the Middle East. That's what Donald Trump says he's delivered 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: after a clearly emotional President announced Israel, Arab leaders and 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: the US have agreed a twenty point plan to end 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: the war in Gaza, eliminate Hamas, and return all hostages 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: living and dead to Israel. 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: So this is a big day, a beautiful day, potentially 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: one of the great days ever and civilization. 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: Under the plan, Israeli troops would withdraw Hamas, would surrender 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: its tunnels and military infrastructure would be demolished, and Donald 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: Trump would personally lead a so called Board of Peace, 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: assisted by former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, which would 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: oversee a new civilian government of Gaza created with the 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: assistance of Arab neighbors. Egypt and Jordan would provide a 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: security force to train Palacetinean police. Israel would retain security 16 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: control of Gaza's perimeter, Aid would resume flowing to Gazans, 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: and Israel would release hundreds of Palestinian prisoners. Joe Kelly 18 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: is the Australian's correspondent in Washington, DC. Joe, we heard 19 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: Donald Trump talking in characteristically grandiose terms about peace for 20 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: eternity here. What's the mood do you think in Washington, DC? 21 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: About this outcome? 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: He was talking in characteristically Trumpian terms, saying that this 23 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: could be a forever and eternal peace. But I think 24 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: what he is getting at is that this is the 25 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: big political solution really to the Israel Hamas conflict. This 26 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: was the missing piece of the puzzle which policymakers have 27 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: been searching for for a long time. Trump feels that 28 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: he's brought all the relevant parties together. He's got the 29 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Arab world on board, and he's got the agreement of 30 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: Nettnya who himself, so he's close to getting something over 31 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: the line. We understand that at the moment Hamas has 32 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: the comprehensive peace plan. They're reviewing it. What they decide 33 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: will be very important at the end of the day. 34 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: But essentially this plan is important because it would see 35 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: an immediate end to the war and then a rebuild 36 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: process for Gaza. So Trump, ever, the salesman and optimist, 37 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: is selling this hard. 38 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: It was very optimistic and there was a note of emotion, 39 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: I think in Donald Trump's voice when he was talking 40 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: about the return of the hostages, including some Israeli families 41 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: who just want the bodies of their relatives back. 42 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: If accepted by Hamas's proposal calls for the release of 43 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: all remaining hostages immediately, but in no case more than 44 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 2: seventy two hours. So the hostages are coming back. And 45 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: I hate even saying this from the standpoint doesn't sound right, 46 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: but it is so important to the parents the bodies 47 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: of the young men. I believe in almost all cases, 48 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: the young men are coming back immediately. I met with parents. 49 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: Their parents felt as strongly about getting there the body 50 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: of their dead boy back as they did, is though 51 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: the boy were alive and well. 52 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was a different kind of Donald Trump 53 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: we saw today, Joe. You know, he seemed very hopeful. 54 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: He seemed to lack some of the kind of cynicism 55 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: and finger pointing that we usually see from him. 56 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: There's a sense that this actually could go somewhere. I 57 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: think Donald Trump wants to ensure as best he can 58 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: that it does go somewhere. It has all the necessary 59 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: conditions built into the framework, the terms and conditions of 60 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: this proposal that would see to make it effective if 61 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: Hermas comes on board. Most important, though, is that this 62 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: is effectively a negotiated surrender for Hermas. So on the 63 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: one hand, Hermas has to come to the table, they 64 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: have to disarm, and they have to accept that there 65 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: is no ongoing role for them governing in Gaza. So 66 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: this is it. And there's an incentive in there for 67 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: members of Hamas who recognize peaceful coexistence with Israel to 68 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: be given amnesty. And on the other side of the 69 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: equation there's a recognition that there'll be no annexation of 70 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: Gaza by Israel. So I think Donald Trump is trying 71 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: to be, in his own way as diplomatic as he 72 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: possibly can be to try and ensure this deal goes ahead. 73 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 3: And we know that Donald Trump genuinely thinks that he 74 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: is the big peace bringer. This is the legacy above 75 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 3: all legacies that he wants to leave behind from his 76 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: time as president of the United States. So he has 77 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 3: personally a lot riding on this, and he thinks, obviously, 78 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: if he's able to land this, it's going to look 79 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: really good for him. And of course we all know 80 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: he is interested in trying to get that Nobel Peace Prize, 81 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: so if he does land it, obviously he'll think that 82 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: his stock has been raised significantly, Claire. 83 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: Let's talk about what Israel's got to give and what 84 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 1: Israel gets. So Israel has agreed to release two hundred 85 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: and fifty Palestinian life sentence prisoners, plus seventeen hundred Gazans 86 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: who were detained after October seven. In return, Israel gets 87 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: the release of all the hostages, dead and alive who 88 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: remain in Gaza. But Israel also gets the war aims 89 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: of Benjamin Etnia who the dismantlement of Hermas, the exclusion 90 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: of Hamas from a future government of Gaza, really the 91 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: exclusion also of the Palestinian authority at this stage, Joe, 92 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: and Israel retaining control of the perimeter of Gaza, you know, 93 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: maintaining a kind of security cordon. This looks like a 94 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: big win for Benjamin Netnya. Who to me, what do 95 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: you think? 96 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's essentially right, Claire. The thing that 97 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 3: struck me as in this entire plan there's a vague 98 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: reference at the end to the steps necessary to obtaining 99 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: a two state solution, but there's no placing the two 100 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: state solution at the top of the to do list here, 101 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: which is the opposite of what countries like Australia and 102 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: other countries in Europe have done so. At the initial steps. 103 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: Here clear the Palestinian authority is not a return to 104 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 3: Gaza with political control. In fact, one of the interesting 105 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: parts of this deal is that in a strange way, 106 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is in charge of Gaza himself. There is 107 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: a political committee that's been charged with the day to 108 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: day duties of running Daza, but it's over seen by 109 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: a new peace board, and of course the terror of 110 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: the new peace Board is Donald Trump himself. 111 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: To ensure the success of this effort, my plan calls 112 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: for the creation of a new international oversight body, the 113 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 2: Board of Peace. We call it the Board of Peace, 114 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: which will be headed not at my request, believe me, 115 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: I'm very busy, but we have to make sure this works. 116 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: The leaders of the Arab world and Israel and everybody 117 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: involved asked me to do this, so it would be 118 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: headed by a gentleman known as President Donald J. Trump 119 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: of the United States. 120 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: So Donald Trump, in a way is taking control of Gaza, 121 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: and we'll have a say in how this process unfolds. 122 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: And that might have been actually a key factor in 123 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: getting Benjamin Netanyahu on board. And in fact the israel 124 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: defense forces. They don't withdraw immediately. It's a staged, a 125 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: phased withdrawal. There is an international stabilization force that will 126 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: immediately come in back by the United States and alliance 127 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: of other countries, including Arab nations, and there'll be milestones 128 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: and a checklist which will need to be met before 129 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: Israel withdraws, and before Israel is willing to see any 130 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: relinquishment of this International Peace Board, which Donald Trump is 131 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: a part of, which Tony Blair is going to be 132 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: a part of. So this has been managed in such 133 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: a way to meet the Israeli conditions, but also to 134 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: meet those conditions in a way that the Arab world 135 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: might be able to accept them. It's trying to bring 136 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: together Israel and the Arab world. So I think that's 137 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: the best analysis at the moment. But again, all this 138 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: is going to depend on what Hamas actually decides to do, 139 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: because Benjamin Natanie who made it very clear and his 140 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: press conference that if he mus rejects the deal, it's 141 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: more of the same and he's prepared to go it 142 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 3: alone without the rest of the international community. 143 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: If Amas rejects the deal, which is always possible, they're 144 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: the only one left. Everyone else has accepted it, but 145 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: I have a feeling that we're going to have a 146 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: positive answer. But if not, as you know, BB, it'd 147 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: have barter fall back in to do what you would 148 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: have to do. Everyone understands that the ultimate result must 149 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: be the elimination of any danger posed in the region, 150 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: and the danger is cause by. 151 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: Hamas Benjamin nettanniaw He's had to agree to bring aid 152 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: back to the previous levels, basically to change the way 153 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: he was holding his foot on the hose of aid 154 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: into Gaza and allow trucks to resume distributing and delivering 155 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: aid to Palestinians. It's not quite clear who exactly is 156 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: going to be district that aid. There's a mention of 157 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: the United Nations and the Red Cross, but there's also 158 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,119 Speaker 1: a pretty vague reference to other international bodies not controlled 159 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: by Israel, which could include the Guards Humanitarian Foundation. That's 160 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: been a real sticking point up till now. Joe, how 161 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: do you interpret that component of this twenty point plan. 162 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: I think it's critical. This is one of the key 163 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: sticking points for the international community here in the United States. 164 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: Even members of Donald Trump's Magabase, including Marjorie Taylor Green 165 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: have been incredibly disturbed and distressed by the images of 166 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: people in Gaza starving, subjected to the most inhumane conditions. 167 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: So Benjamin Nettnia, who had no choice but to accept 168 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: terms for aid which we're going to get the rest 169 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: of the international community in the Arab world on board, 170 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: he had to do that, and I think that's something 171 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: that Donald Trump would have wanted him to do. The 172 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: other thing that's important about this deal, although Claire, is 173 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: that there is no dispossession of people from Gaza. They 174 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: are allowed to stay. That's another thing that Benjamin Nettnya, 175 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: who has accepted, and which the foreign ministers of the 176 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 3: Arab countries pointed out in the joint statement they released. 177 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: They obviously see that as very important that Ghazans are 178 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: allowed to stay in their territory. If they leave, they 179 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: are allowed to return. 180 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: Benjamin Netanya, who had to do it, a bit of 181 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: humble pie in apologizing in a phone call which also 182 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: included Trump during their meeting at the White House, to 183 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: the Emir of Qatar for that recent strike on Hamas 184 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: leaders in Qatar in which a Katari security guard was killed. 185 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: The wording of that's very interesting. So Netannya, who apologized 186 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: for the death of the Katari security guard and said 187 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: that Israel doesn't have any plans to compromise Qatar's sovereignty 188 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: again in the future. That feels like it might have 189 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: been a bit appeal to swallow for Benjamin Netanyahu, but 190 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: he hasn't really promised not to attack Qatar again, has he. 191 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: Well, this was clearly orchestrated by Donald Trump. Donald Trump 192 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: responded really harshly when Israel launched those targeted strikes on 193 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: Katari soil. Qatar as a close partner of the United States. 194 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: They've been playing a key mediation role as this conflict 195 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: has dragged on. They host a really important United States 196 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: air base, and Donald Trump has a good relationship with 197 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: Qatar and even bought struck that deal for the Katari 198 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: plane for himself. No doubt, Donald Trump was essential to 199 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: orchestrating that. It was a three person call. He was 200 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: on the call, so clearly I think this was a 201 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: necessary step to trying to broker this broad political solution, 202 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: which is ultimate lea the objective of US foreign policy here. 203 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: Joe Kelly is the Australian's correspondent in Washington, DC. 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