WEBVTT - OUR MOST EXPLOSIVE HOTLINE EVER: WYHA HOTLINE 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.440 Hey guys, I am currently on maternity leave, so we 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:08.400 thought that we would bring back one of our most 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:13.960 explosive hotline episodes to finish off our run of hotlines. 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:18.320 This one honestly blew my mind and I thought about 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.079 this four months after and this episode actually started an 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:26.360 all out war in our comment section, with the mum 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.000 in question actually commenting on our socials. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.800 It got so wild. But listen to this one. We 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:33.400 hope you. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.480 Enjoy it and I will see you back next week. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.000 Welcome back to the Where's Your Head At? Hotline, our 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.680 new weekly show where we catch up with each other 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.200 and connect with you all via our hotline voicemail. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:01:00.440 I'm Anna and I'm Matt. Let's jump in goods morning. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:02.640 Hello Anna, how are you going today? 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:03.760 I'm good? How are you going? 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.959 I'm good? I am I'm just you know, I've been 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.959 going on here everywhere and saying how I'm stop drinking, 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.760 but fuck me, it gets hard. How good was the 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:13.679 weather on the weekend? 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:15.240 The weather was beautiful. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:19.280 We've had a pretty shit summer in Melbourne, Australia, but 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.000 this weekend we were blessed with the sun finally, and 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.800 I did peak that you were out on the beers. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.840 So my mate, one of my best mates, Nick, got 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.800 his names on me, love him to bits. What do 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.080 you mean I've got Nick back on my foot? 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.000 You said, you've got your name tattoo. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.440 He's one of my best mates, love him to bits, 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.520 used to live with him. It was his birthday, so 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:43.920 he wanted to talk to go out. I was a 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:45.759 bit headed because you know, I'm not trying to drink 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:46.520 his march. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.240 And your friends are party boy. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.640 It was like, when I send that out with the boys, 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.400 I'm like, oh, this is going to go one of 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:56.400 two ways. I could be getting a mercy call the 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.120 next day, being like I'm in a dark place. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.200 I was, so i'll tell you what I got. Sunday 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.400 I was pretty good. But we went out went to 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.800 this new place forgive me, I don't know its name. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.440 I asked you where it was because it looked stunning. 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.360 It was like on the water on. 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.120 The docklands, literally in that bit there where your boat 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:15.960 was for your birthday. It's acterually in there. It's like 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.720 a floating like what would you call one of them? 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.119 Yeah, like a floating kind of like bar oh. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.799 Yeah. It was unbelievable. Sun was down the vibes are up, 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.200 so it was hard for me. 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:26.560 Sun was up, the vibes were up. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.280 Yeah, it was hard for me not to It was 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.200 hard for me not to drink, so I got stuck in. 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.440 It looked like perfection. I asked you what it was. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.800 You said it was like a t et or something something. 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.040 Anyway, Yeah, I figure I don't know how to pronounce it, 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:41.560 so I was probably not going to touch on its name. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.799 But it had a bit of fun there. Then woke 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.520 up Sunday, went to the Saint Kildo Markets. Have you 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:47.919 been there? 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.120 Love the sat Kilda Market. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:54.160 What a fun thing to do on a Sunday, very wholesome. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:59.560 Actually got some henna tattoos done there fifty dollars not cheap. 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.200 But did you know that henna tattoos? 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.360 Actually it's obviously like an Indian tradition and they do 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.919 it like mainly when people get married. And apparently the 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.280 reason why they do it is because it's actually really calming. 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.440 Really so like they had this when I went to 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.600 this Saint Kildo market a few months ago. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.360 The lady was like telling me, She's like, oh, it's very. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.760 Soothing, it's calming, it's good for the nervous system, and 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.560 I was like, sign me, I'll say no more. 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.840 Don't stop stop covering me from. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.240 Head to tie. I don't know. I think they have 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:33.880 some like essential oils in there. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.720 I think the ingredients are very like soothing, and apparently 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.560 that's why they give it to the brides because it 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.600 like relaxes them on their wedding day, because apparently your 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.520 wedding day is meant to be super stressful, and I 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.520 think Indian weddings go through multiple days. 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:52.560 So I was gonna say, Matte, maybe. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.880 You can well because my story I'm going to tell 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.960 you from the weekend is very stressful. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:58.280 Really went from. 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.720 The same Kildon Markets and we're going to go watch 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.160 a movie. So I went to the shop. She likes 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.040 to collect the hard tickets of every movie she goes to. 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.160 She's got like a stack of them. So I went 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.280 to buy and I bought them for the screening at 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.600 whatever time. It was like six point thirty. I did 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.800 this during the day, so the car parks full. I 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.560 went to a bit of a shop, got some groceries, 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:20.240 got everything. I've been using one of my dad's utes 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.200 from the office, so you know, save fuel, save money 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:25.200 on that save money on my. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.080 Cut very expensive at the moment, I've gotten. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.760 To add that my car sitting on the driveway with 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:36.800 a flat tire haven't changed yet or two ago. I 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.320 just haven't been bothered to change it because I've got 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.520 this car. So I'm driving this one around now, so 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:43.599 essentially you don't want to tie. I get so flat 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.919 that it almost like folds on itself. It's gotten to 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:47.839 that point and every day I walk past, I'm just 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:52.599 like Nat today. So I've been driving that around. But 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.360 the key is separate from the central locking, so they're 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.920 on a key. They're both different. So when I told 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.920 my family and everyone this, they said, how'd you get 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.240 into the car? And I said, because the central locking 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.279 is on a different switch to the actual key that 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.520 you put in the ignition, like an old school U, 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.200 one of the old school utes that we have. So 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.000 I was like, all right. So I got in the 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.400 car after doing my shopping, central lock sat down. I 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.120 was looking through my keys and the car key wasn't 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:23.479 on there. Fuck, I've had a huge night. I have 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.280 to get home. I just want to get home, shower, 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:26.840 I just want to like, you know what I mean? 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.039 So this is your Sunday. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.159 Yeah, this is my Sunday wholesome morning. And I've driven 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.400 back on to the shops gone to and I was like, 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.640 oh my god. I was like, all right, so I've gone, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.600 all right, I need to retrace all my steps. So 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.679 and have you ever tried to retrace your steps after 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.200 like you've done a full shop, like gone grocery shopping, 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:44.359 gone shopping, go on everything. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:48.359 Never, thankfully, Well it's fucked, I can imagine. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.240 So I'm looking on the ground. If anyone saw you 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.239 walking around, they would have been like, fuck, this guy's 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.040 in some state. Because I was looking around getting all frantic. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.479 I went to colds to my grocery shop, and I 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.040 was like, all right, where did I start? Where did 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:00.520 I go? And I was like you know what, Actually, 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.880 I was like, that's going to be so dumb doing that. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:04.839 I'm gonna go aisle by aisle and see if I 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.840 see it. So I've done the whole shop and then 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.599 I've come to the conclusion. Oh and as I was 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.640 walking out, one of my ex's mum says a lope 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.160 to me, because she going on the one from when 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.600 I was like sixteen eighteen. But I'm still unfriendly turned 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.359 to her. So we're going day on the escalator and 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.240 she wanted to have a chat and I'm like, no, no, 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.320 I need to find this today. Dressing out, got to 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.359 the car and I was like got back to my 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:28.960 car and I was like, you know what. I was like, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:30.640 I don't know where it is. I'm gonna have to 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.360 call like carkid people who come cut a new key 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.159 for me. Accepted defeat, And as I hopped in the 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.560 car to call him, I looked on the ground where 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:43.400 my feet were and it was sitting there. So so 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.640 after all that, it was literally just sitting in the 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.680 car and I was like, fuck me. I was like, 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.440 this is this is this is the pit summed up 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.800 my day. So then I went home, I went to bed, 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.720 had a knaf and woke up and went watched Violent Nights. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.040 So if anyone's seen Violent Night, I recommend watching it. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.200 If you currently in the movie, yeah, currently movies. If 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.720 you're into Christmas movies and violence, it's a good movie. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.280 They go together. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.200 We look, I don't think it's going to be on 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.320 my list, but I mean each to their own. 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.000 What did you get up to on the weekend? Was yours? 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.120 As less frantic as much as Sunday was. Did you 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:15.920 have a cheer one? 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:16.440 Yeah? 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:20.200 Well, look, on Friday I did something very exciting, which 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:25.840 you know, I went wedding dress shopping. So basically, I'm 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:30.120 working with a designer to make my wedding dress. So 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.040 I had my first meeting with him on Friday. So 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.720 I kind of sat down, I told him about what 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.440 style of wedding I'm going to have. I kind of 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.720 showed him some picks from my Pinterest board that I've 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.240 been screenshotting and saving, and I guess we're going to 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.239 create a wedding dress together. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.840 In my ignorance, Yeah, so your weddings I was seeing 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.040 twenty twenty four, that's what you're aiming for. Yeah, you 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.600 said a bit early to doing the dress. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.960 Well, if you're getting a dress made, you need a 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.960 year really, Yeah, so you need a full year to 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.920 kind of plan. And obviously I'm going to go back 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.480 and try on a few wedding dresses to see what 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:12.280 shape I like. Because obviously, like I could, like I 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.480 don't know a specific wedding dress, but it might not 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:15.240 look good on me. 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.320 So wouldn't it go out of fashion in a year 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.800 or something like? It might not be fashionable, might not 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:20.680 be well. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.360 I mean, wedding dresses, you can, they're quite classic and 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.120 like timeless pieces. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.000 But yeah, I have to start pre planning this stuff. 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.920 Sorry. Like I said, part of the ignorance, I don't 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:32.959 know what goes into planning a wedding dress. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.120 I think because you're a boy as well, like boys 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:36.000 aren't really that. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.600 Interested in weddings, Like I mean, I've never planned a 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.400 wedding before. But Michael seems to be just kind of like, yeah, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.840 like I'm happy if you're happy kind of vibe. And 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.319 I feel like that's kind of something that I hear 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:47.320 a lot. 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:49.280 Hello, you've reached. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.320 Anna, and that we can't get to the phone right now, 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.920 but please leave us a message on our hot line 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.920 after the beep. Okay, so this week we are going 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.280 to be listening to a voice mail. This is a 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.720 random voicemail that we've got on our hotline from a 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.160 girl called Maddie. Now I have listened to this, and 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.800 our producer Alex has listened to this, and this is 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:15.160 the wildest voicemail we have ever received. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.320 So Matt, you are like very excited to hear this. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.040 I know I am. Yeah, you guys have been talking 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.280 about this affair bead I said, I'll wait till the 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.520 actual episode to have a listen. 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.600 I had to hear it. I was like, I need 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.480 to know what this is about. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.559 And then I spoke to our producer Alex and we 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.600 were like, we have to get her on because we 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.560 just have so many questions for us. 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.960 So we're going to listen to the voicemail, we're going to. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.080 React to it, and then we're actually going to talk 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.800 to Maddie. She's coming on the hot line and we're 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.880 gonna ask all the questions. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:46.760 She should know this. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.920 I'm stressed. I'm stressed for Maddie. I'm like secondhand angry 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.040 for her. So I think we should listen. 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:55.280 Hi, Matt Nana. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:59.120 My name's Maddie and this is my crazy life story. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.920 So six years ago, I was eighteen and I met 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:10.400 this guy. He was twenty seven, so a little bit 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.199 of an age gap, but we fell in love instantly. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.640 Everything moved really quickly. We got pregnant with our first 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.440 daughter three months in fast forward. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:23.400 A year after that. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:27.040 We got married and got pregnant with our second daughter, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.240 and then a few months after that we got pregnant 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:37.880 with our third daughter. And then late last year, November 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:42.720 twenty twenty one, I had our third daughter and we'd 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:47.440 been together for five years. Our daughter was three weeks old. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.920 We just moved into a house together, a new house together, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.679 and I got a message from one of my girlfriends 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.559 saying that she had found out my husband had been 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:04.280 cheating on me with my mum. That they had been 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.520 having an affair since before our second daughter was born, 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:12.440 and it continued until halfway through my pregnancy with. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.480 My third daughter, so i'd been going on for about 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:15.199 a year and a half. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:22.320 As you can believe, that was shocked me. I was 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.120 obviously just had a newborn baby. I had a three 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:32.360 year old and a one year old. I was so confused, shocked, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:37.200 every emotion under the sun. This is obviously a short story, 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.880 but a few days later the truth did come out 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.640 and my husband ended up admitting it. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:45.400 Ex husband. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.920 And I haven't had communication with my mom since then. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:54.480 We had one phone call where she admitted it, but 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:55.920 never apologized. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:56.520 Nothing. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.120 And now fast forward a year, a single mom to 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.720 three little babies, and it's honestly been the biggest blessing 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:09.120 in my life. I've met an amazing new guy who's 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.840 just taken on the role of a father figure to 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:18.319 my girls, like amazingly. But yeah, that's my crazy story, 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.200 and no one ever believes me when I tell them, 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:25.800 so it's sort of like an icebreaker conversation starter that 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.360 me and my sister like to laugh about now that obviously, 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.319 looking back, it's very traumatizing. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.880 So, yeah, that's my crazy story. 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.319 So we'll get Maddie on because I've got a thousand questions. 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.720 Welln't that the wildest story you've ever heard in your 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:42.520 whole life? 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.959 Well, Anna, what would you do if you found out Anne, 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:47.599 Marie and Michael. 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.640 Were I would fucking order a hit on both of them. 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.760 That would be I'm pissed off from Maddie, Like what 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:54.400 the fuck? 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.200 I just have so many questions, like how did they 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.720 first meet the mom and the they're like. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.480 Well, probably because she was, Like this is what. 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.360 Was their sexual chemistry? You're reackon from the start. 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.080 That is just so nuts, Like who what type of 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:13.640 mother is hooking up with their daughter's. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.920 Husband when they have three kids? So like the kids's 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.520 grandma is hooking up with the dad. It's just not right, 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:22.719 that's fucked up. 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:24.800 I want to speak to her and find out. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.000 Well we are, we're about to speak to her, but like, fuck, 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.520 I'm so glad number one that it's been a happy 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.360 ending for her, because geez, that is hard to get over, 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.640 and like she's probably overcome it because she has three 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.200 daughters that she has to worry about. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.560 Think about it. You meant to trust your husband and 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.080 your mom more than anyone, and then they've both done 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:44.720 the dirty on you, so you've had to see those 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.040 both those relationships end at once, and they've both like 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.760 taken your trust away from you. So like I would 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.560 find it really hard to trust anyone after that. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.559 I mean, I find it hard to trust anyone on 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.839 a good day, never mind after that, I'd. 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:01.120 Be like, I don't even bother try actually fucked over 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.280 by both your mum and your husband. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.040 Like she must have been like leaving her kids with 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:06.960 the grandma and her husband. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.520 They must have been like together. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.400 Or even worse, the kids are left with her and 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.240 then the husband's going to the mum's house. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.760 It's just our poor Maddie. We have to talk to her. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:18.839 Shall we get her on the phone. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.640 Yeah, let's do it. Hey Maddie, Hi, Hey Maddie. Welcome 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.000 to the show. Thank you for jumping on and explaining 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.040 the rest of this wild story that we just listened to. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.560 You're welcome. Pretty crazy, very crazy. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.720 This is the craziest hotline story we've ever received, and 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.880 we are just full of so many questions. Firstly, we 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:40.840 want to say sorry that you've had to go through 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:45.520 such a wild, wild experience that's like crazy. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.680 Yeah, it's pretty fuck up, but it's a year on now, 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.560 so I feel like it's easy to talk about and 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:52.560 I'm doing so well. 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.800 So yeah, it's clear that you've found another guy and 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.040 he's taken on the role as the father and doing well. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:14:59.840 That's good to hear. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:01.640 Yeah, yeah, he's amazing. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.880 We're so glad that there is a happy ending out 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.560 of all of this for you, and we're really glad 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.000 that you met him. But can you just take us 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.920 back to that day when your friend called you and 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:17.360 you found out that your mom and your husband were 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.040 having an affair behind your back. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.080 Yeah, So we just moved into a new house. So 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.040 I just had our third daughter, So she was two 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.800 weeks old, and I got a message from my friend 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.360 saying can you come to my house? And I was 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.800 like no, Like, I've got three little kids, Like it's 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.480 not that easy to just pack up the car and 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.000 bring them with me, yea, So like just call me, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:39.920 and she's like, I really need to tell you. Like 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.680 it went back and forth a little bit, so it's 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:43.760 like just call me, like I'll go to the bathroom. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.280 And I sort of had like a gut feeling, like 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.600 my heart just sank. And then she said to me 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.120 that she had all these screenshots of him messaging her 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:56.520 mom and explaining the whole affair to her mom what 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:57.320 they'd been doing. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.640 He was sending to your friend's mum. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.880 Yeah, so he had been messaging my friend's mum I 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.680 think maybe trying to persuade her to have an affair 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.920 with him, and then going into the details with her 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.320 about where they would do it, what had been going on, 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.280 And she had secretly been taking photos of all these 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.520 messages and snapchat and it had been going on for 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.440 quite a few months before I knew. So then, yeah, 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.880 she showed me all of that everything. Her mum came 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.720 to me and explained everything, And of course I went 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.320 to my partner at the time and said, like, what 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:34.120 is this and he was like, I don't know, It's 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.640 not me blah. Blah blah, And of course I knew 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.400 it was him. His name was written all over it, 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.800 it was his snapchat everything. So yeah, that's pretty much 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.080 I found out. And then it was just turmoil from there. 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.440 I rang my dad because my mom and dad were 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:51.040 still together. They still are together actually, and I had said, 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.960 I'm coming over. I've got the three kids, Like obviously, 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.680 I was really upset. Showed him everything. He tried to 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.840 wring my mum and she wouldn't ant. She finally answered 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.240 and he had said, look, I've found out this. You 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.280 need to come home. And she took off and we 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.239 didn't speak to her for two days, and then she 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.200 eventually came back. I had one phone call with her, 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.560 a big argument, and that was kid. I haven't spoken 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.800 to her or seen her since, and that was a 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.600 year ago. And yeah, that's sort of the gist of 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:23.120 the story. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.040 Oh my god, were you in disbelief hearing this like 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.680 that just seems like the craziest, most absurd story ever. 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.960 Are we kind of like, yeah, my mum has this 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:35.560 in her. 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:39.399 Yeah, I sort of now looking back and speaking to 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.440 my dad a lot, my mum had had affairs when 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.560 we were kids, or my dad so I should have, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.119 in hindsight maybe expected it from her. But in the 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.840 months leading up to it, like as sick as it 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:52.840 like it feels to say this, I sort of had 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.040 a gut feeling like I knew something was going on. 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.239 There was just times when they would be together and 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.520 no one else was there, and like they would do 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.400 like changeover from looking after my kids when I was working, 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.720 And yet there was sort of, I don't know, just 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:08.840 a gut feeling that I knew something was going on. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.320 But obviously it sounds so fucked to even think that, 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.560 So I just thought I was crazy and like a 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.720 super jealous like wife. But yeah, my gut like knew 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:18.320 the whole time. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.160 Fuck a woman's intuition. 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.800 We always say it, but you always have to listen 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:26.399 to it, because if something's like telling you something's wrong, 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.040 it's normally right. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.000 Just how did they Do you know any details of 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:33.960 how it started? When? 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.919 Yeah, well, my husband pretty much told me all of 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:38.919 it and said that it sort of just started with 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.960 flirting and they would snutchat and things like that, and 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:47.280 then one day they kissed, and then the next time 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.000 they saw each other, like they would do changeover for 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.320