Speaker 1: Hey guys, I am currently on maternity leave, so we
Speaker 1: thought that we would bring back one of our most
Speaker 1: explosive hotline episodes to finish off our run of hotlines.
Speaker 1: This one honestly blew my mind and I thought about
Speaker 1: this four months after and this episode actually started an
Speaker 1: all out war in our comment section, with the mum
Speaker 1: in question actually commenting on our socials.
Speaker 2: It got so wild. But listen to this one. We
Speaker 2: hope you.
Speaker 1: Enjoy it and I will see you back next week.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Where's Your Head At? Hotline, our
Speaker 1: new weekly show where we catch up with each other
Speaker 1: and connect with you all via our hotline voicemail.
Speaker 2: I'm Anna and I'm Matt. Let's jump in goods morning.
Speaker 3: Hello Anna, how are you going today?
Speaker 2: I'm good? How are you going?
Speaker 3: I'm good? I am I'm just you know, I've been
Speaker 3: going on here everywhere and saying how I'm stop drinking,
Speaker 3: but fuck me, it gets hard. How good was the
Speaker 3: weather on the weekend?
Speaker 2: The weather was beautiful.
Speaker 1: We've had a pretty shit summer in Melbourne, Australia, but
Speaker 1: this weekend we were blessed with the sun finally, and
Speaker 1: I did peak that you were out on the beers.
Speaker 3: So my mate, one of my best mates, Nick, got
Speaker 3: his names on me, love him to bits. What do
Speaker 3: you mean I've got Nick back on my foot?
Speaker 2: You said, you've got your name tattoo.
Speaker 3: He's one of my best mates, love him to bits,
Speaker 3: used to live with him. It was his birthday, so
Speaker 3: he wanted to talk to go out. I was a
Speaker 3: bit headed because you know, I'm not trying to drink
Speaker 3: his march.
Speaker 2: And your friends are party boy.
Speaker 1: It was like, when I send that out with the boys,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is going to go one of
Speaker 1: two ways. I could be getting a mercy call the
Speaker 1: next day, being like I'm in a dark place.
Speaker 3: I was, so i'll tell you what I got. Sunday
Speaker 3: I was pretty good. But we went out went to
Speaker 3: this new place forgive me, I don't know its name.
Speaker 1: I asked you where it was because it looked stunning.
Speaker 1: It was like on the water on.
Speaker 3: The docklands, literally in that bit there where your boat
Speaker 3: was for your birthday. It's acterually in there. It's like
Speaker 3: a floating like what would you call one of them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a floating kind of like bar oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was unbelievable. Sun was down the vibes are up,
Speaker 3: so it was hard for me.
Speaker 2: Sun was up, the vibes were up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hard for me not to It was
Speaker 3: hard for me not to drink, so I got stuck in.
Speaker 1: It looked like perfection. I asked you what it was.
Speaker 1: You said it was like a t et or something something.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, I figure I don't know how to pronounce it,
Speaker 3: so I was probably not going to touch on its name.
Speaker 3: But it had a bit of fun there. Then woke
Speaker 3: up Sunday, went to the Saint Kildo Markets. Have you
Speaker 3: been there?
Speaker 2: Love the sat Kilda Market.
Speaker 1: What a fun thing to do on a Sunday, very wholesome.
Speaker 1: Actually got some henna tattoos done there fifty dollars not cheap.
Speaker 2: But did you know that henna tattoos?
Speaker 1: Actually it's obviously like an Indian tradition and they do
Speaker 1: it like mainly when people get married. And apparently the
Speaker 1: reason why they do it is because it's actually really calming.
Speaker 1: Really so like they had this when I went to
Speaker 1: this Saint Kildo market a few months ago.
Speaker 2: The lady was like telling me, She's like, oh, it's very.
Speaker 1: Soothing, it's calming, it's good for the nervous system, and
Speaker 1: I was like, sign me, I'll say no more.
Speaker 3: Don't stop stop covering me from.
Speaker 2: Head to tie. I don't know. I think they have
Speaker 2: some like essential oils in there.
Speaker 1: I think the ingredients are very like soothing, and apparently
Speaker 1: that's why they give it to the brides because it
Speaker 1: like relaxes them on their wedding day, because apparently your
Speaker 1: wedding day is meant to be super stressful, and I
Speaker 1: think Indian weddings go through multiple days.
Speaker 2: So I was gonna say, Matte, maybe.
Speaker 3: You can well because my story I'm going to tell
Speaker 3: you from the weekend is very stressful.
Speaker 2: Really went from.
Speaker 3: The same Kildon Markets and we're going to go watch
Speaker 3: a movie. So I went to the shop. She likes
Speaker 3: to collect the hard tickets of every movie she goes to.
Speaker 3: She's got like a stack of them. So I went
Speaker 3: to buy and I bought them for the screening at
Speaker 3: whatever time. It was like six point thirty. I did
Speaker 3: this during the day, so the car parks full. I
Speaker 3: went to a bit of a shop, got some groceries,
Speaker 3: got everything. I've been using one of my dad's utes
Speaker 3: from the office, so you know, save fuel, save money
Speaker 3: on that save money on my.
Speaker 2: Cut very expensive at the moment, I've gotten.
Speaker 3: To add that my car sitting on the driveway with
Speaker 3: a flat tire haven't changed yet or two ago. I
Speaker 3: just haven't been bothered to change it because I've got
Speaker 3: this car. So I'm driving this one around now, so
Speaker 3: essentially you don't want to tie. I get so flat
Speaker 3: that it almost like folds on itself. It's gotten to
Speaker 3: that point and every day I walk past, I'm just
Speaker 3: like Nat today. So I've been driving that around. But
Speaker 3: the key is separate from the central locking, so they're
Speaker 3: on a key. They're both different. So when I told
Speaker 3: my family and everyone this, they said, how'd you get
Speaker 3: into the car? And I said, because the central locking
Speaker 3: is on a different switch to the actual key that
Speaker 3: you put in the ignition, like an old school U,
Speaker 3: one of the old school utes that we have. So
Speaker 3: I was like, all right. So I got in the
Speaker 3: car after doing my shopping, central lock sat down. I
Speaker 3: was looking through my keys and the car key wasn't
Speaker 3: on there. Fuck, I've had a huge night. I have
Speaker 3: to get home. I just want to get home, shower,
Speaker 3: I just want to like, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So this is your Sunday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is my Sunday wholesome morning. And I've driven
Speaker 3: back on to the shops gone to and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. I was like, all right, so I've gone,
Speaker 3: all right, I need to retrace all my steps. So
Speaker 3: and have you ever tried to retrace your steps after
Speaker 3: like you've done a full shop, like gone grocery shopping,
Speaker 3: gone shopping, go on everything.
Speaker 2: Never, thankfully, Well it's fucked, I can imagine.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking on the ground. If anyone saw you
Speaker 3: walking around, they would have been like, fuck, this guy's
Speaker 3: in some state. Because I was looking around getting all frantic.
Speaker 3: I went to colds to my grocery shop, and I
Speaker 3: was like, all right, where did I start? Where did
Speaker 3: I go? And I was like you know what, Actually,
Speaker 3: I was like, that's going to be so dumb doing that.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go aisle by aisle and see if I
Speaker 3: see it. So I've done the whole shop and then
Speaker 3: I've come to the conclusion. Oh and as I was
Speaker 3: walking out, one of my ex's mum says a lope
Speaker 3: to me, because she going on the one from when
Speaker 3: I was like sixteen eighteen. But I'm still unfriendly turned
Speaker 3: to her. So we're going day on the escalator and
Speaker 3: she wanted to have a chat and I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 3: I need to find this today. Dressing out, got to
Speaker 3: the car and I was like got back to my
Speaker 3: car and I was like, you know what. I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know where it is. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 3: call like carkid people who come cut a new key
Speaker 3: for me. Accepted defeat, And as I hopped in the
Speaker 3: car to call him, I looked on the ground where
Speaker 3: my feet were and it was sitting there. So so
Speaker 3: after all that, it was literally just sitting in the
Speaker 3: car and I was like, fuck me. I was like,
Speaker 3: this is this is this is the pit summed up
Speaker 3: my day. So then I went home, I went to bed,
Speaker 3: had a knaf and woke up and went watched Violent Nights.
Speaker 3: So if anyone's seen Violent Night, I recommend watching it.
Speaker 3: If you currently in the movie, yeah, currently movies. If
Speaker 3: you're into Christmas movies and violence, it's a good movie.
Speaker 3: They go together.
Speaker 1: We look, I don't think it's going to be on
Speaker 1: my list, but I mean each to their own.
Speaker 3: What did you get up to on the weekend? Was yours?
Speaker 3: As less frantic as much as Sunday was. Did you
Speaker 3: have a cheer one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, look, on Friday I did something very exciting, which
Speaker 1: you know, I went wedding dress shopping. So basically, I'm
Speaker 1: working with a designer to make my wedding dress. So
Speaker 1: I had my first meeting with him on Friday. So
Speaker 1: I kind of sat down, I told him about what
Speaker 1: style of wedding I'm going to have. I kind of
Speaker 1: showed him some picks from my Pinterest board that I've
Speaker 1: been screenshotting and saving, and I guess we're going to
Speaker 1: create a wedding dress together.
Speaker 3: In my ignorance, Yeah, so your weddings I was seeing
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, that's what you're aiming for. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: said a bit early to doing the dress.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're getting a dress made, you need a
Speaker 1: year really, Yeah, so you need a full year to
Speaker 1: kind of plan. And obviously I'm going to go back
Speaker 1: and try on a few wedding dresses to see what
Speaker 1: shape I like. Because obviously, like I could, like I
Speaker 1: don't know a specific wedding dress, but it might not
Speaker 1: look good on me.
Speaker 3: So wouldn't it go out of fashion in a year
Speaker 3: or something like? It might not be fashionable, might not
Speaker 3: be well.
Speaker 1: I mean, wedding dresses, you can, they're quite classic and
Speaker 1: like timeless pieces.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I have to start pre planning this stuff.
Speaker 3: Sorry. Like I said, part of the ignorance, I don't
Speaker 3: know what goes into planning a wedding dress.
Speaker 2: I think because you're a boy as well, like boys
Speaker 2: aren't really that.
Speaker 1: Interested in weddings, Like I mean, I've never planned a
Speaker 1: wedding before. But Michael seems to be just kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm happy if you're happy kind of vibe. And
Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of something that I hear
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: Hello, you've reached.
Speaker 1: Anna, and that we can't get to the phone right now,
Speaker 1: but please leave us a message on our hot line
Speaker 1: after the beep. Okay, so this week we are going
Speaker 1: to be listening to a voice mail. This is a
Speaker 1: random voicemail that we've got on our hotline from a
Speaker 1: girl called Maddie. Now I have listened to this, and
Speaker 1: our producer Alex has listened to this, and this is
Speaker 1: the wildest voicemail we have ever received.
Speaker 2: So Matt, you are like very excited to hear this.
Speaker 3: I know I am. Yeah, you guys have been talking
Speaker 3: about this affair bead I said, I'll wait till the
Speaker 3: actual episode to have a listen.
Speaker 2: I had to hear it. I was like, I need
Speaker 2: to know what this is about.
Speaker 1: And then I spoke to our producer Alex and we
Speaker 1: were like, we have to get her on because we
Speaker 1: just have so many questions for us.
Speaker 2: So we're going to listen to the voicemail, we're going to.
Speaker 1: React to it, and then we're actually going to talk
Speaker 1: to Maddie. She's coming on the hot line and we're
Speaker 1: gonna ask all the questions.
Speaker 2: She should know this.
Speaker 1: I'm stressed. I'm stressed for Maddie. I'm like secondhand angry
Speaker 1: for her. So I think we should listen.
Speaker 2: Hi, Matt Nana.
Speaker 4: My name's Maddie and this is my crazy life story.
Speaker 4: So six years ago, I was eighteen and I met
Speaker 4: this guy. He was twenty seven, so a little bit
Speaker 4: of an age gap, but we fell in love instantly.
Speaker 4: Everything moved really quickly. We got pregnant with our first
Speaker 4: daughter three months in fast forward.
Speaker 5: A year after that.
Speaker 4: We got married and got pregnant with our second daughter,
Speaker 4: and then a few months after that we got pregnant
Speaker 4: with our third daughter. And then late last year, November
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, I had our third daughter and we'd
Speaker 4: been together for five years. Our daughter was three weeks old.
Speaker 4: We just moved into a house together, a new house together,
Speaker 4: and I got a message from one of my girlfriends
Speaker 4: saying that she had found out my husband had been
Speaker 4: cheating on me with my mum. That they had been
Speaker 4: having an affair since before our second daughter was born,
Speaker 4: and it continued until halfway through my pregnancy with.
Speaker 5: My third daughter, so i'd been going on for about
Speaker 5: a year and a half.
Speaker 4: As you can believe, that was shocked me. I was
Speaker 4: obviously just had a newborn baby. I had a three
Speaker 4: year old and a one year old. I was so confused, shocked,
Speaker 4: every emotion under the sun. This is obviously a short story,
Speaker 4: but a few days later the truth did come out
Speaker 4: and my husband ended up admitting it.
Speaker 5: Ex husband.
Speaker 4: And I haven't had communication with my mom since then.
Speaker 4: We had one phone call where she admitted it, but
Speaker 4: never apologized.
Speaker 5: Nothing.
Speaker 4: And now fast forward a year, a single mom to
Speaker 4: three little babies, and it's honestly been the biggest blessing
Speaker 4: in my life. I've met an amazing new guy who's
Speaker 4: just taken on the role of a father figure to
Speaker 4: my girls, like amazingly. But yeah, that's my crazy story,
Speaker 4: and no one ever believes me when I tell them,
Speaker 4: so it's sort of like an icebreaker conversation starter that
Speaker 4: me and my sister like to laugh about now that obviously,
Speaker 4: looking back, it's very traumatizing.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, that's my crazy story.
Speaker 3: So we'll get Maddie on because I've got a thousand questions.
Speaker 1: Welln't that the wildest story you've ever heard in your
Speaker 1: whole life?
Speaker 3: Well, Anna, what would you do if you found out Anne,
Speaker 3: Marie and Michael.
Speaker 2: Were I would fucking order a hit on both of them.
Speaker 1: That would be I'm pissed off from Maddie, Like what
Speaker 1: the fuck?
Speaker 3: I just have so many questions, like how did they
Speaker 3: first meet the mom and the they're like.
Speaker 2: Well, probably because she was, Like this is what.
Speaker 3: Was their sexual chemistry? You're reackon from the start.
Speaker 1: That is just so nuts, Like who what type of
Speaker 1: mother is hooking up with their daughter's.
Speaker 2: Husband when they have three kids? So like the kids's
Speaker 2: grandma is hooking up with the dad. It's just not right,
Speaker 2: that's fucked up.
Speaker 3: I want to speak to her and find out.
Speaker 1: Well we are, we're about to speak to her, but like, fuck,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad number one that it's been a happy
Speaker 1: ending for her, because geez, that is hard to get over,
Speaker 1: and like she's probably overcome it because she has three
Speaker 1: daughters that she has to worry about.
Speaker 3: Think about it. You meant to trust your husband and
Speaker 3: your mom more than anyone, and then they've both done
Speaker 3: the dirty on you, so you've had to see those
Speaker 3: both those relationships end at once, and they've both like
Speaker 3: taken your trust away from you. So like I would
Speaker 3: find it really hard to trust anyone after that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I find it hard to trust anyone on
Speaker 1: a good day, never mind after that, I'd.
Speaker 3: Be like, I don't even bother try actually fucked over
Speaker 3: by both your mum and your husband.
Speaker 1: Like she must have been like leaving her kids with
Speaker 1: the grandma and her husband.
Speaker 2: They must have been like together.
Speaker 3: Or even worse, the kids are left with her and
Speaker 3: then the husband's going to the mum's house.
Speaker 2: It's just our poor Maddie. We have to talk to her.
Speaker 2: Shall we get her on the phone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. Hey Maddie, Hi, Hey Maddie. Welcome
Speaker 3: to the show. Thank you for jumping on and explaining
Speaker 3: the rest of this wild story that we just listened to.
Speaker 5: You're welcome. Pretty crazy, very crazy.
Speaker 1: This is the craziest hotline story we've ever received, and
Speaker 1: we are just full of so many questions. Firstly, we
Speaker 1: want to say sorry that you've had to go through
Speaker 1: such a wild, wild experience that's like crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty fuck up, but it's a year on now,
Speaker 5: so I feel like it's easy to talk about and
Speaker 5: I'm doing so well.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's clear that you've found another guy and
Speaker 3: he's taken on the role as the father and doing well.
Speaker 3: That's good to hear.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's amazing.
Speaker 1: We're so glad that there is a happy ending out
Speaker 1: of all of this for you, and we're really glad
Speaker 1: that you met him. But can you just take us
Speaker 1: back to that day when your friend called you and
Speaker 1: you found out that your mom and your husband were
Speaker 1: having an affair behind your back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So we just moved into a new house. So
Speaker 5: I just had our third daughter, So she was two
Speaker 5: weeks old, and I got a message from my friend
Speaker 5: saying can you come to my house? And I was
Speaker 5: like no, Like, I've got three little kids, Like it's
Speaker 5: not that easy to just pack up the car and
Speaker 5: bring them with me, yea, So like just call me,
Speaker 5: and she's like, I really need to tell you. Like
Speaker 5: it went back and forth a little bit, so it's
Speaker 5: like just call me, like I'll go to the bathroom.
Speaker 5: And I sort of had like a gut feeling, like
Speaker 5: my heart just sank. And then she said to me
Speaker 5: that she had all these screenshots of him messaging her
Speaker 5: mom and explaining the whole affair to her mom what
Speaker 5: they'd been doing.
Speaker 3: He was sending to your friend's mum.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so he had been messaging my friend's mum I
Speaker 5: think maybe trying to persuade her to have an affair
Speaker 5: with him, and then going into the details with her
Speaker 5: about where they would do it, what had been going on,
Speaker 5: And she had secretly been taking photos of all these
Speaker 5: messages and snapchat and it had been going on for
Speaker 5: quite a few months before I knew. So then, yeah,
Speaker 5: she showed me all of that everything. Her mum came
Speaker 5: to me and explained everything, And of course I went
Speaker 5: to my partner at the time and said, like, what
Speaker 5: is this and he was like, I don't know, It's
Speaker 5: not me blah. Blah blah, And of course I knew
Speaker 5: it was him. His name was written all over it,
Speaker 5: it was his snapchat everything. So yeah, that's pretty much
Speaker 5: I found out. And then it was just turmoil from there.
Speaker 5: I rang my dad because my mom and dad were
Speaker 5: still together. They still are together actually, and I had said,
Speaker 5: I'm coming over. I've got the three kids, Like obviously,
Speaker 5: I was really upset. Showed him everything. He tried to
Speaker 5: wring my mum and she wouldn't ant. She finally answered
Speaker 5: and he had said, look, I've found out this. You
Speaker 5: need to come home. And she took off and we
Speaker 5: didn't speak to her for two days, and then she
Speaker 5: eventually came back. I had one phone call with her,
Speaker 5: a big argument, and that was kid. I haven't spoken
Speaker 5: to her or seen her since, and that was a
Speaker 5: year ago. And yeah, that's sort of the gist of
Speaker 5: the story.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, were you in disbelief hearing this like
Speaker 1: that just seems like the craziest, most absurd story ever.
Speaker 1: Are we kind of like, yeah, my mum has this
Speaker 1: in her.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I sort of now looking back and speaking to
Speaker 5: my dad a lot, my mum had had affairs when
Speaker 5: we were kids, or my dad so I should have,
Speaker 5: in hindsight maybe expected it from her. But in the
Speaker 5: months leading up to it, like as sick as it
Speaker 5: like it feels to say this, I sort of had
Speaker 5: a gut feeling like I knew something was going on.
Speaker 5: There was just times when they would be together and
Speaker 5: no one else was there, and like they would do
Speaker 5: like changeover from looking after my kids when I was working,
Speaker 5: And yet there was sort of, I don't know, just
Speaker 5: a gut feeling that I knew something was going on.
Speaker 5: But obviously it sounds so fucked to even think that,
Speaker 5: So I just thought I was crazy and like a
Speaker 5: super jealous like wife. But yeah, my gut like knew
Speaker 5: the whole time.
Speaker 2: Fuck a woman's intuition.
Speaker 1: We always say it, but you always have to listen
Speaker 1: to it, because if something's like telling you something's wrong,
Speaker 1: it's normally right.
Speaker 3: Just how did they Do you know any details of
Speaker 3: how it started? When?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, my husband pretty much told me all of
Speaker 5: it and said that it sort of just started with
Speaker 5: flirting and they would snutchat and things like that, and
Speaker 5: then one day they kissed, and then the next time
Speaker 5: they saw each other, like they would do changeover for
Speaker 5: looking after my kids when my husband would leave for
Speaker 5: work and I was working the whole day, so they
Speaker 5: would like had sex once and then it just sort
Speaker 5: of continued and they would speak about it, and because
Speaker 5: it happened like every couple of weeks or every month
Speaker 5: or so, and there was one time that I thought
Speaker 5: I'd caught them. I got home. I was here at
Speaker 5: my parents' house, and my mum walked in the door
Speaker 5: from work, and then my husband came in like a
Speaker 5: minute later, and they didn't say hello to each other,
Speaker 5: which is really strange. Normally, when they see each other,
Speaker 5: like for the first time, we would all say hello.
Speaker 5: So that was sort of like alarm bells. And my
Speaker 5: gut was already like telling me something was going on.
Speaker 5: And then we got home and our bedroom blinds were
Speaker 5: shot and I always leave them open, like I used
Speaker 5: to always have to my husband about shutting the blinds
Speaker 5: like when it's hot, and they were down, and that
Speaker 5: was just like my gut was just feeling terrible, like
Speaker 5: I knew something was going on. So then I confronted
Speaker 5: him about it, and I actually messaged my mom saying,
Speaker 5: did you come to my house after work? And she said, yeah,
Speaker 5: I did. But then I like knew you guys weren't there.
Speaker 5: So I left and then she had snapchatted my husband
Speaker 5: and I had his phone, and she said, Maddie just
Speaker 5: asked me if I went to your house, if she
Speaker 5: asked you anything, tell her this is what happened. Oh
Speaker 5: so so fuck your friend even told you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So this was July last year. So I just fallen
Speaker 5: pregnant with my third daughter. And then that came out
Speaker 5: and my husband said to me that they just kissed,
Speaker 5: like eventually i'd gotten out, but I'm like, I know
Speaker 5: something's going on. You need to tell me. And he said,
Speaker 5: we just kissed and that was that. And then so
Speaker 5: I knew about that, and I was like ten weeks pregnant,
Speaker 5: and obviously I was like trying to I don't know.
Speaker 5: I look back and think, why did I try and
Speaker 5: work it out? But I was trying to work it
Speaker 5: out for the sake of the kids. So I was like,
Speaker 5: maybe it just was a mistake. They were both reassuring
Speaker 5: me that it was nothing. It was a tiny peck,
Speaker 5: that was all that happened. Yeah, and then I didn't
Speaker 5: find out the whole story till yees six months later.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, are you poor thing? That is just
Speaker 2: I just can't even imagine.
Speaker 1: How do you trust your current partner after going through
Speaker 1: that level of deceit from them?
Speaker 3: I did say, that's yeah, your mom and your husband
Speaker 3: and your husband you mean to put a lot of
Speaker 3: trust in and invest in and they do you dirty, Like,
Speaker 3: how can you come back and trust anyone after that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I had those worries a lot,
Speaker 5: But I don't know if it's just because the guy
Speaker 5: that I'm with is like so great. But I honestly
Speaker 5: thought I would be a lot worse than what I am,
Speaker 5: but he is just like we have really great communication,
Speaker 5: so that I think that's the main thing. Like I
Speaker 5: don't feel like he's hiding anything from me. We talk
Speaker 5: about everything, and just from the get go I've got
Speaker 5: like a complete different vibe of him than what I
Speaker 5: got off my husband.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so happy for you far out.
Speaker 3: So you said your dad and your mom are still together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they're still together. Sorry, my daughter's staying on
Speaker 5: the door in that my grandson. Yeah, they're still together.
Speaker 5: So that's obviously caused a lot of dramas between my
Speaker 5: dad and I because I just can't believe he would
Speaker 5: stay with her, But I've voiced all this to him,
Speaker 5: and at the end of the day, like it's his decision.
Speaker 5: He has to live with her all the time, and
Speaker 5: as long as it doesn't come between our relationship or
Speaker 5: he's trying to force me to see her or anything
Speaker 5: like that, Like I just try to keep it cool.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, So you've not seen your mom since
Speaker 1: this happened, but your dad is very much still in
Speaker 1: your life, is that correct?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I see him all the time.
Speaker 1: And then what about your ex husband? How often, if
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 5: He sees our kids every second weekend, so normally I'll
Speaker 5: see him at like changeovers for that. And obviously in
Speaker 5: the beginning it was really hard, like I hated him
Speaker 5: for a long time, but now I've sort of just
Speaker 5: let it go and just trying to copare and as
Speaker 5: well as we can for the sake of our girls,
Speaker 5: because it does make such a difference to their behavior
Speaker 5: and all those sorts of things if we are getting along.
Speaker 5: So yeah, we even just had our daughter's youngest son's
Speaker 5: first birthday, which we haven't been together her whole life
Speaker 5: pretty much, and he came for the party. His family
Speaker 5: came for the party, so yeah, yeah, we're really trying
Speaker 5: hard to co parent together and put my own feelings
Speaker 5: aside and put the girls first.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming your mum wasn't at that party.
Speaker 5: Definitely not.
Speaker 2: Maddie.
Speaker 1: You are a stronger person than I am, Like I
Speaker 1: am looking up to you so much right now for
Speaker 1: your strength for your kids, because like I just I
Speaker 1: don't know if I would have it in.
Speaker 2: Me to do that. No, I almost I can't wrap
Speaker 2: my head around it.
Speaker 1: Do you think you'll tell your daughters what's happened when
Speaker 1: they grow up?
Speaker 5: I do think about this a lot because even now,
Speaker 5: my oldest daughter, she's only four, but we had a
Speaker 5: massive like my mum was a massive part of our lives.
Speaker 5: We would see her every day and especially my girls' lives.
Speaker 5: So it has been the adjustment to especially my oldest
Speaker 5: like not seeing her and she does ask questions like
Speaker 5: where's Nana and whatever, and I just try to play
Speaker 5: it off. But I think it will come a time
Speaker 5: when they ask me about it, because they're not a
Speaker 5: part of her life, but they see my dad, and
Speaker 5: I think I'm just gonna have to be honest with them,
Speaker 5: And you know, their dad made a massive mistake. I
Speaker 5: don't really want to turn them on their dad, but
Speaker 5: when they're old enough, that'll be up to them to
Speaker 5: make that decision, and he'll have a lot of explaining
Speaker 5: to do to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah fuck yeah.
Speaker 3: Is he Do you know about he's dating anyone? Now?
Speaker 5: I haven't really heard. He tells me a few like
Speaker 5: you're seeing girls or whatever, but then tries to flirt
Speaker 5: with me when I see him, So I don't really know.
Speaker 5: But I don't feel jealous or anything like that, like
Speaker 5: I feel sorry for whoever's going to be with him.
Speaker 3: Well, he said he was hitting on your friend's mum
Speaker 3: as well. Does he have like a fetish for mums
Speaker 3: or something?
Speaker 5: I think so he must have like a mum fetish
Speaker 5: because they're all like fifty years old and he's thirty
Speaker 5: and I'm a lot younger than him, So I don't know.
Speaker 5: He must have a thing for older women. I think
Speaker 5: he just has a lot of insecurities and needs to
Speaker 5: be wanted and needs attention all the time. So obviously
Speaker 5: that and the thrill of doing it behind everyone's back
Speaker 5: was enough for them. Your poor dad, Yeah, he is
Speaker 5: the best, that's honestly why. I just don't know why
Speaker 5: he puts up with it because he could find like
Speaker 5: the most amazing woman and he's like such a beautiful person.
Speaker 5: But I don't know that's up to him.
Speaker 2: Has your mom tried to reach out to you?
Speaker 1: Obviously you had that one call, But has she tried
Speaker 1: to like message you or call you at all?
Speaker 5: Yeah, she messaged me a lot in the beginning before
Speaker 5: I had blocked her, and then after we had our
Speaker 5: big fight. I had blocked her because it was just
Speaker 5: like too much. I was trying to deal with the
Speaker 5: kids and husband's side of it. I felt like her
Speaker 5: side of it just needs to take a step back.
Speaker 5: And obviously having a newborn baby, like my head was
Speaker 5: consumed with that. So yeah, she hadn't contacted me because
Speaker 5: I had blocked her. But then she'll randomly like photos
Speaker 5: that I've been tagged in on Instagram or like it
Speaker 5: was my birthday a few weeks ago and she sent
Speaker 5: me a bunch of flowers just saying I miss you
Speaker 5: and I love you.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, ever accept her apology and rekindle something or
Speaker 3: you think that's just dead in the water.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think think it's gone. Like obviously, some days
Speaker 5: I miss having my mum and we were so close,
Speaker 5: like it would just be nice to have her, But
Speaker 5: it's not the same, Like once you do that, I
Speaker 5: could never do that to my kids, So I don't
Speaker 5: know how you could do that to your daughter. So
Speaker 5: I don't think it'll ever come back.
Speaker 1: It's just a whole new level of low. It's just
Speaker 1: like the disrespect, Like, how can you come back from that?
Speaker 3: It's yeah, one hundred.
Speaker 1: Well, Maddie, thank you so much for sending us this voicemail.
Speaker 2: We really appreciate you.
Speaker 1: You're so sorry you've been through this traumatic event, and
Speaker 1: thank you for being so open as to share only
Speaker 1: a year later. Again, thank you so much, and thanks
Speaker 1: for being on our hotline, no worries, Thanks for having
Speaker 1: you guys,