WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 22 October 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:04.160 On SCO lils Ostodio. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:06.920 This is the Wader Panalty Show. 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.240 Good evening and welcome to the Rita Paney Show coming 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:16.639 up tonight. The fallout from Lydia Thorpe's wild antics with 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.080 calls for her resignation, Coalition and f Keith Pitt joins 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.239 me shortly. Did you sent to Alan government under attack 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.760 for its controversial housing plan that will see high rise 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.520 towers at train stations across Melbourne. Josh Hammer will be 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.639 with me later in the hour with the latest from 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:37.040 the US, including Tim Walls adding to the Democrats men's 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.159 issues and we never forget left he's losing it. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.920 Sure do you cut off contact with family members just 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.840 because they are voting for Donald Trump? Yes? 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:53.120 But first. The fallout continues from Lydia Thorpe's stunt during 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:57.639 King Charles's reception in Canberra yesterday, where she had this 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:58.680 to say to him. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.880 You got aside against our people. Get up our land back, 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:14.000 give us by your. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.720 Style from us, our bones. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.280 Our scar, our baby, our people. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:20.280 You dead. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:23.600 We want the. 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.240 Training in this country. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:26.640 Give up a. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:29.640 This is not your lad. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:31.520 This is not your lad. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.360 Not surprising, Lis Senator Thorpe has received attention from media 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:47.160 outlets around the world, with UK outlets in particular being 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:53.000 shocked by her behavior. She's awful at the sudden newspaper said, 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:57.160 King Charles Heckler should be ashamed for appalling behavior. It's 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.840 a disgrace, they wrote. As she also made an appearance 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:06.160 on Sky News UK and she repeatedly clashed with hosts 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.960 Kay Burley. Have a look I did. 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.320 Why did you call him genocideal. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.240 Which is the king's speech? 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:15.880 Why did you call him genocidal? 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:17.200 He waited till the end. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.960 Why did you call because there's a genocide. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:25.880 There's thousands of massacre sites in this country from invasion 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.720 and someone needs to answer for that, and that's he 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.440 is the successor, then he needs to answer. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:34.720 Okay, thank you. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.280 One of your colleagues, one of your colleagues described you 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:45.720 as abusing your position and your intervention was disgraceful. How 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:46.800 do you respond to that. 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.200 I'm not fussed about what people say about me. I 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:56.040 will continue to fight for justice for my people. We 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.040 are the real sovereigns in this country. The king is 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:03.400 not our sovereign. The king lives in your country. He's 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.800 from your country. He can't be our king. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.079 So I don't really. 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.560 She also had this to say to gb News reporters 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:16.360 just after the altercation. 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.240 I got carried out by the AFP, so I didn't 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.640 get a chance to look around on who was supporting me. 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.560 But I certainly got a few nods from Aberiginal people 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:31.960 in the room to show that they support my resistance. 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.960 This morning, Peter Dutton made his feelings known on this issue. 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.000 We'll hear from him, and we'll also hear Senator Thorpe's 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:46.600 response should she resign. 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.200 I think there's a very strong argument for somebody who 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.080 doesn't believe in the system, but it's willing to take 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.400 quarter of a million dollars a year from the system 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.240 to resign in principle. And if you were really truly 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.320 about your cause and not just about yourself, then I 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.320 think that's a decision that you would make well. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.160 First of all, Dutton say it to my face, because 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.600 every time I see him in Parliament he walks in 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:10.560 the opposite direction. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:12.840 I really don't care. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:13.960 What Dutton says. 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.640 I'm in this job for another three and. 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.240 A half years and I'm not looking to be re elected. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.720 I'm looking to get justice by my people. 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.760 Joding me now is Deputy Executive Director the Institute of 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:34.039 Public Affairs, Dan Wilder. Can Lydia Thorpe really be part 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.920 of the resistance, as she calls herself if she's also 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.719 part of that system she collects a salary as an MP, 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.800 she sits in the Australian Parliament, in the upper House, 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.400 she swore an allegiance to the king or Queen in 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:47.960 her case. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:51.760 Well, that's right, Rita. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:56.600 There's only twelve senators from Victoria. Lydia Thorpe is one 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.520 of them, and apparently she's the one that's being oppressed 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.600 that work. So I think what Peter Duncan said is right. 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.599 You know, you're happy to draw a quarter of a 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.120 million dollar salary from the system that you say is racist, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.920 oppressive and colonial. People can see that this doesn't add up. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.400 You've even had, you know, the activist class in the 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:22.440 Indigenous area disassociating themselves from Lydia Thorpe. And I think 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.560 most Australians look at this and say, look, if you 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:26.760 want to have a debate about the republic, fair enough, 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.760 you know, you can have a view on whether you 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.880 want to stay as a monarchical nation or not. But 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.279 the reality is that this is self serving. Of course, 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.159 Lydia Thorpe used to be in the Greens. She was 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.960 elected as a Senator only because she was on the 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.000 Greens ticket, So she's really living on borrow time. And 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.080 I think that most Australians have just had a gutfull 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:46.680 of of this kind of behavior. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.920 And of course she has form in this area. Reader. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.920 I do worry though that she will be re elected. 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:59.240 We have seen this before and we are talking about Victoria. 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.720 Do you think think at the next election she's going 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.680 to be out the next time she has to be 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:07.400 re elected. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.360 I think she'll struggle. But you are right to point 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:18.080 out that it is Victoria. Anything can happen in Victoria, Rita. 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.480 And you know, we have seen a lot of activism 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.320 and real lacking of political leadership across Australia and particularly 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.360 in Victoria on these issues. And the thing that concerns 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.640 me is the kinds of things that Lydia Thorpe talks about, 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.280 particularly around treaty and so called truth telling. Well, that's 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.080 exactly where labor are going. You know, labor is going 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.920 in that direction at a state level, at a federal level, 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.839 you know, voice treaty truth that's what the Prime Minister 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.680 committed to you know, on his first speech as Prime minister, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.279 that was his top promise to the Australian people to 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.279 deliver that very radical agenda. Now, thank heavens, that was rejected. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.400 The voice was rejected by sixty percent of the public. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.200 But you know, we can see the left of the 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:59.560 political spectrum being pulled in a very extreme radical direction. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.400 Now two Victorian premieres into Allen's grand plans to build 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.760 fifty multi story housing complexes in a number of suburbs 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:15.120 across Melbourne in order to help fix the state's housing crisis. 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:19.119 But there's been speculation that this has been worked into 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.760 a broader political play by the Allen government. The first 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.600 ten locations set to receive these towers, I don't know 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.640 if this is a coincidence, dand but they all tend 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:32.240 to be in liberal leaning areas. Here we go North Brighton, 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.000 Middle Brighton, Hampton, Sandringham, all Bayside and you've got Tuak 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:41.280 Village in Tuak, Armadale, Malvern and Hawksburn among the top ten, 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:45.640 and then also Hawthorne. Is that just a wild coincidence 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.280 that these train stations and these suburbs are going to 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:53.560 receive twenty to twenty five story towers. Certainly, the premieer 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.680 was met with some very angry locals during her announcement 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:02.240 of the plans in Brighton. I'm interested in your response 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.760 because I do wonder if those who are complaining are 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:07.840 guilty of being Nimbi's. 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:11.239 Well rita. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.800 This is a very bad policy, clearly being made for 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.160 political reasons. As you point out, these are all in 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.760 Liberal seats, including a job a pseudo seat in Hawthorne, 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:20.360 which is one of the. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.920 Key areas there. There's a lot of problems with this. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.880 Firstly, this is anti ethical to the Australian way of life. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:28.360 Australians want to. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.720 Live in detached houses with a bit of land so 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:35.000 that they can raise families. That's been an instricable part 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.160 of our culture. They don't want to live in dog 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.240 box apartments twenty thirty stories high up in the air. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.880 They've not paid any attention to the locals here, and 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.439 as I say, it's been done for political reasons because 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.240 Labor believes that people who rent in high rise apartments 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.079 are more likely to vote for Labor than they are Liberal. Now, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.840 I think that that's a contested proposition, but Nonetheless, that's 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.560 what is informing this decision now for the coalition in Victoria, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.520 this is an absolute line in the sand moment. They 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.600 have to oppose these developments. They need to outline an 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.160 alternative vision and plan for the future population growth of 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.800 Victoria and Metropolitan Melbourne. So far, I think they've said 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.520 that they oppose it on the basis that they haven't 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.559 consulted with the community, which implies that they may support 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.280 it if there was consultation with the community. So there 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.240 needs to be a very clear, unequivocal response here that 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:28.360 this is a bad policy that inconsistent, completely inconsistent with 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.679 our culture and our values, and the Victorians do not 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:31.120 want it. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:38.760 I can just see it creating these slums across Melbourne 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:44.559 at these train stations, having these boxes built, having all 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.400 sorts of incentives to have people buy them, and they're 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.720 talking about discounts on stamp duty and all sorts of 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:54.080 other things that they're going to introduce for new builds. 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.439 I do wonder what it also will do to the 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.199 housing prices in those areas. We'll talk about housing being 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:08.000 more affordable, but it is the biggest asset most Australians hold. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.280 Dan and nobody wants to see the biggest asset they 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.800 hold go backwards after they've slaved a way to be 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.000 able to pay off that house. 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:20.520 Well, that's right. 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.679 What you're seeing in Victoria really is the destruction of 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:28.720 the middle class and the aspirational middle class. And this 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.080 is a part of that. Because who's going to be 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.880 owning these apartments. It's going to be the super funds. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.199 It's going to be a lot of build for rent. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:37.880 I mean, they say it's about ownership, but a lot 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:39.960 of these apartments will be for rent. And there's going 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.800 to be a lot of foreign ownership, including from the 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.840 Chinese Communist Party. We know, so you know, this is 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:50.880 not about facilitating upward economic and social advancement, which has 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.680 been a key cornerstone of the success of our nation. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.200 This is taking us backwards. And it's a part of 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:01.440 a deliberate strategy because Labour knows that their biggest voting cohort, 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.520 so those in the public sector, the growing corporate bureaucracy, 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.560 those who are tethered to the assistance of government in 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.160 one way, shape or form. We saw through COVID the 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:14.240 destruction of the middle class of small business owners and 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.920 that's continuing under policies such as this. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.880 Before you go, I have to get your thoughts on 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:25.040 former nine newspaper columnists Clementine Ford. It's the same Clementine 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.840 Ford who helped spread the names of hundreds of pro 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.360 Israel Jewish creatives earlier this year. 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:32.199 Will remember that. 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.280 Well, she's come out with this bizarre take on the 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:41.400 death of her mass leader Yaya Sinwa, So full moon 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:42.319 in aris. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:43.280 I'm not an astrologer. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:51.360 I just followed along astrology pages and tarado and basically 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:57.720 like a big how collectively went through the world last 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:02.200 night astrologically speaking, and then to wake up this morning 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:07.360 and see you know that you see the news and 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:14.480 to see the way that the corrupt Western Empire is 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.360 framing the targeting of sin Walk. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:19.679 Yeah. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:20.160 Interesting? 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:29.400 Can you please translate for me? Be how astrologically speaking? Sinoa? 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:30.640 What does it all mean? 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:31.040 Dad? 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.040 You're asking the wrong person. Reader. 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.520 I've got no idea what Clementine is on about. And 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.120 it's not the first time, and I'm sure i won't 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:42.560 be the last time that I'm sort of lost for 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.240 words in terms of her assessment of the situation. And look, 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.520 I mean, she's got a lot of form in the 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:53.880 area of strange commentary. She's after a bit of a headline, 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.679 I think, and she's probably got what she wants, and 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.240 I just think it goes to this point of, you know, 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.360 the very bizarre kinds of commentary that we get out 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.120 of some of these people these days. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.880 The far left never ceases to surprise. Dan Wild, thank 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.800 you for your time this evening. Now let's bring in 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.840 former Resources Minister and National's MP Keith Pitt Keith. It 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.880 seems a group of protesters have perhaps been inspired by 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:24.080 Senator Lydia forpes Antics. The anti colonial sentiment is certainly 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.880 strong in the far left, and we now see a 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:33.040 statue of Queen Victoria in Sydney's CBD vandalized this morning. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.760 What are your thoughts on those who think this country 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:44.400 is illegitimate, it's built on genocide and we need a 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:49.000 resistance for the indigenous community. 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.199 Reader, I won't give you the full blob version. I'm 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.240 not sure that you be AB will broadcast it. But firstly, 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.640 what a disgrace will turn out by a senator for Victoria. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.880 This is the grand final streaker. But you can't work 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:04.440 out whether they're trying to interrupt the game at a 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.199 critical point or it's just pure exhibitionism and they want 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.520 their ten seconds of glory. But ultimately, Senator the Thorpe's 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.679 done enormous damage to the causes she says she supports. 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:19.280 It's made Australia literally a laughing stock internationally. It's awful behavior. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:20.760 And to think that someone will be out there and 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:25.120 mimic it in other places, well, they've got this completely wrong, 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:26.520 completely wrong. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:33.920 Well on that stunt, she did swear allegiance to the Queen, 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.480 didn't she You can't serve as a senator without taking 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.119 the oath, that's my understanding. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.920 Well, that's exactly correct, and so to the Premier is 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.160 from what I can recall, none of them ever bothered 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:44.920 to show up either. 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.200 But you do have to take an oath. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.640 And I did suggest loudly to Senator Thorpe that she 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.800 might want to give up her salary from the invaders 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.040 if that was her view, but I didn't get a response. 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.160 She was not very far from me at all at 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.160 the official welcome for the King in Parliament House. But 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.680 the idea that you can have that sort of behavior 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.280 and be a member of the Australian Senate and represent 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.560 the state of Victoria. Well, I think Victoria invoters got 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.280 an opportunity coming up whenever it is that the senator 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.880 is up for reelection. And once again this is one 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.320 we can thank the Greens for. Reader absolute extremists. 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.920 Are you are you willing to debate Senator Thorpe. She 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.120 did complain on radio that Peter Dutton whenever he sees 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.880 her around Parliament House just goes the other direction. He 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.880 doesn't confront her. If she is after a debate, would 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.960 you be willing to come on Sky News and have 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:39.600 a one on one debate with Senatility of Thought? 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.920 I don't know, Senator thought, Well, I'm happy to debate anybody, 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.760 doesn't matter which side they come from or well, we. 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.800 Will try to make it happen. She's on the record 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.480 wanting to have a debate, so let's go to her 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.760 office and we will try to make it happen. And 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.520 if she doesn't show up, I think that will say plenty. 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.160 Now on that oath, she was called to swear the 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:09.520 oath properly after she first gave us this performance. 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:17.760 I thought so and sincerely. 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:22.359 That I would be faithful and I bear true allegiance 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:27.800 to the colonizing her Majesty Queen Elizabeth Senator. 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:34.280 Thought and let's have a look at some of her 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:38.280 other antics of her recent times. Here she is outside 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:43.080 of Melbourne strip cob followed by her attacking at women's 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:53.720 rights rally led by Kelly J. Keene. You man that 0:16:53.840 --> 0:17:00.840 stands with the like that someone in parliament you would 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.720 be your personal love. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:03.920 This country and you. 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:08.800 Get out of my face. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:10.560 Kingdom as the pilot. 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:37.200 They know what biological text there, let's go. 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:45.280 I shouldn't laugh, but it's such a person fit to 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.800 sit in the Upper House, in the Australian Parliament. 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:51.200 Read. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:52.800 I think this is the great thing. How good is 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:57.600 Australian democracy? Absolutely anyone could be a member of Parliament, unless, 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.640 of course you've got a criminal conviction of your bankrupt 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.800 but literally anybody, and we have the support of the Greens. 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.520 It literally is anyone. I clearly don't agree with Senator 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.159 Thorpe's behavior. I think it's inappropriate. She's entitled to have 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.159 a view, but I think she's done in chalcuable damage 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:13.840 to her cause. 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:15.280 And people are over it. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.520 They are absolutely over it now. 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:23.240 Keith. Allegations of stabbings, fires and vandalism taking place across 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:28.000 homeless camps in two inner city parks in Brisbane have 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.720 forced Brisbane City Council to switch off power to these sides. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.359 The pictures coming out of there are shocking. This is 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:41.840 not what you expect to see in a first world city. 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.320 Well, this is what happens when people not only can't 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.760 afford their rent, they can't afford their power bill and 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:52.439 they are desperate, and desperate people do desperate things. I 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.800 was talking to Senator former Senator Ron Boswell, not that 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.679 long ago. Boss tells me he hasn't seen anything like 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.119 this since the post war years, where they feel the 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.400 Brisbane Exhibition showgrounds with tents for people who couldn't be housed. 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.840 I just think it's a terrible reflection not only on 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.280 our society but across all governments that this has been allowed. 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.440 And you've got a labor government that well, what do 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.919 they do? Brought in more than a million additional people 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.320 with nowhere to put them. So how about we deal 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:22.040 with this. This is a serious issue, and unfortunately, reader, 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.879 I think there'll be more incidents like this because people 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:26.640 just have such desperate need. 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.800 And I think just looking at those images, there's a 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:36.400 real fear someone could be seriously hurt or even die. 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:41.240 You're having fires in these encampments at stabbings. It's just 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.439 a terrible not just for those who are living there, 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.760 but for those who live around these parks, who walk 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.000 through them to get to home, to their homes or 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:52.000 to their workplaces. 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.160 And I've had similar issues in my electric We've had 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.520 tents that catch on fire. You know, people are trying 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:01.320 to get by with whatever they can find, and that 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.280 means that you know, they do heat things up with 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:07.080 their old traditional methods. And the worst part of this 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.880 is in some cases there are children who are involved 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:11.560 because they just can't find housing. 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:13.240 And you put a lot of. 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.320 Desperate people together, you get desperate acts and desperate outcomes. 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.959 And it is past time that this was dealt with. 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.439 And these people need somewhere to go, and they are 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:25.520 not being helped by huge swaves of immigration prices they 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.840 can't afford, and they're just being costed out of everything 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.280 they try to attempt. I just think it's a terrible 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.399 position to see the country and it should never have happened. 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:37.840 Reader, never, Keith Pete, thank you so much for your 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:43.000 time tonight. Let's bring in Victorian Libertarian MP David Limbrigg. 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.240 He joins me in our Melbourne studio. David, thanks for 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.120 your time. You've written in an op ed published exclusively 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:52.879 on Elon Musk's X about the dangers of anti vilification laws. 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.520 You're right. I can already guarantee you one thing. If 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.760 these laws are implemented in their current form, one day, 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.680 they will be weaponized against the pro palacedin inactivists the next. 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.080 It's not a case of if, it's a case of when, 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:10.080 and the when will be straight away. What makes you 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:11.439 so sure of that. 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:14.520 Well, I think one of the things that we need 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.960 to think about is the people pushing these laws are 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.159 often able to become the victims straight away. Now, the 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.160 government said when they brought through these other laws recently 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:27.320 that they tried to legislate away hate. With the Nazi 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.240 salute laws, the government said, well, we hope that they'll 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:34.040 never be used, and actually what happened was within forty 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.280 eight hours of royal assent, someone was charged with these 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.480 laws and they've totally backfired. I think that what will 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.160 happen here is people are already gearing up to weaponize 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:44.800 these laws as soon as they're enacted, and it'll be 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:46.320 a race to get the first conviction. 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.000 Do you see a lot of lawfare happening here, because 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:53.680 we've seen that employed in the past, people working pro bono, 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:59.080 and people are essentially going after their ideological opponents, anyone 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:00.080 who has a voice. 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:01.520 I disagree with absolutely. 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:02.399 That's what will happen. 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.440 And I've already been trying to outline some scenarios where 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:07.960 this could happen, where the people that they thought were 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:10.320 going to be targeted by these laws will actually be 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:13.159 able to use them against their enemies. And this is 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.639 what people don't think about. They always think about the 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.240 speech of the people that they don't like, and don't 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.200 think that they themselves could be targeted. 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:25.040 Well, you are certainly trying to appeal to the logic 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:29.399 and the free speech loving ways of the left. But 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:32.320 the left these days they love censorship that I just 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:34.920 don't expect it to be used against them. But you're 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:38.480 right that the biggest problem with all kinds of government 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.959 censorship is that it leaves someone to decide what the 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.879 truth is or what is acceptable speech. A basic test 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.760 for people who believe in censorship is to ask them 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:52.520 to imagine what they think would happen if the person 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.960 they hate the most was in charge. And you ask 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.960 about the scenario if Peter Dutton is elected and here 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.119 points a storage conservative I don't know, maybe like me 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.280 to be the new E commissioner. Will the left be 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:06.879