Speaker 1: On SCO lils Ostodio.
Speaker 2: This is the Wader Panalty Show.
Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Paney Show coming
Speaker 3: up tonight. The fallout from Lydia Thorpe's wild antics with
Speaker 3: calls for her resignation, Coalition and f Keith Pitt joins
Speaker 3: me shortly. Did you sent to Alan government under attack
Speaker 3: for its controversial housing plan that will see high rise
Speaker 3: towers at train stations across Melbourne. Josh Hammer will be
Speaker 3: with me later in the hour with the latest from
Speaker 3: the US, including Tim Walls adding to the Democrats men's
Speaker 3: issues and we never forget left he's losing it.
Speaker 4: Sure do you cut off contact with family members just
Speaker 4: because they are voting for Donald Trump? Yes?
Speaker 3: But first. The fallout continues from Lydia Thorpe's stunt during
Speaker 3: King Charles's reception in Canberra yesterday, where she had this
Speaker 3: to say to him.
Speaker 5: You got aside against our people. Get up our land back,
Speaker 5: give us by your.
Speaker 3: Style from us, our bones.
Speaker 6: Our scar, our baby, our people.
Speaker 3: You dead.
Speaker 1: We want the.
Speaker 3: Training in this country.
Speaker 7: Give up a.
Speaker 3: This is not your lad.
Speaker 4: This is not your lad.
Speaker 3: Not surprising, Lis Senator Thorpe has received attention from media
Speaker 3: outlets around the world, with UK outlets in particular being
Speaker 3: shocked by her behavior. She's awful at the sudden newspaper said,
Speaker 3: King Charles Heckler should be ashamed for appalling behavior. It's
Speaker 3: a disgrace, they wrote. As she also made an appearance
Speaker 3: on Sky News UK and she repeatedly clashed with hosts
Speaker 3: Kay Burley. Have a look I did.
Speaker 8: Why did you call him genocideal.
Speaker 9: Which is the king's speech?
Speaker 8: Why did you call him genocidal?
Speaker 7: He waited till the end.
Speaker 8: Why did you call because there's a genocide.
Speaker 9: There's thousands of massacre sites in this country from invasion
Speaker 9: and someone needs to answer for that, and that's he
Speaker 9: is the successor, then he needs to answer.
Speaker 8: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: One of your colleagues, one of your colleagues described you
Speaker 2: as abusing your position and your intervention was disgraceful. How
Speaker 2: do you respond to that.
Speaker 9: I'm not fussed about what people say about me. I
Speaker 9: will continue to fight for justice for my people. We
Speaker 9: are the real sovereigns in this country. The king is
Speaker 9: not our sovereign. The king lives in your country. He's
Speaker 9: from your country. He can't be our king.
Speaker 7: So I don't really.
Speaker 3: She also had this to say to gb News reporters
Speaker 3: just after the altercation.
Speaker 10: I got carried out by the AFP, so I didn't
Speaker 10: get a chance to look around on who was supporting me.
Speaker 10: But I certainly got a few nods from Aberiginal people
Speaker 10: in the room to show that they support my resistance.
Speaker 3: This morning, Peter Dutton made his feelings known on this issue.
Speaker 3: We'll hear from him, and we'll also hear Senator Thorpe's
Speaker 3: response should she resign.
Speaker 11: I think there's a very strong argument for somebody who
Speaker 11: doesn't believe in the system, but it's willing to take
Speaker 11: quarter of a million dollars a year from the system
Speaker 11: to resign in principle. And if you were really truly
Speaker 11: about your cause and not just about yourself, then I
Speaker 11: think that's a decision that you would make well.
Speaker 10: First of all, Dutton say it to my face, because
Speaker 10: every time I see him in Parliament he walks in
Speaker 10: the opposite direction.
Speaker 12: I really don't care.
Speaker 13: What Dutton says.
Speaker 14: I'm in this job for another three and.
Speaker 3: A half years and I'm not looking to be re elected.
Speaker 15: I'm looking to get justice by my people.
Speaker 3: Joding me now is Deputy Executive Director the Institute of
Speaker 3: Public Affairs, Dan Wilder. Can Lydia Thorpe really be part
Speaker 3: of the resistance, as she calls herself if she's also
Speaker 3: part of that system she collects a salary as an MP,
Speaker 3: she sits in the Australian Parliament, in the upper House,
Speaker 3: she swore an allegiance to the king or Queen in
Speaker 3: her case.
Speaker 1: Well, that's right, Rita.
Speaker 16: There's only twelve senators from Victoria. Lydia Thorpe is one
Speaker 16: of them, and apparently she's the one that's being oppressed
Speaker 16: that work. So I think what Peter Duncan said is right.
Speaker 16: You know, you're happy to draw a quarter of a
Speaker 16: million dollar salary from the system that you say is racist,
Speaker 16: oppressive and colonial. People can see that this doesn't add up.
Speaker 16: You've even had, you know, the activist class in the
Speaker 16: Indigenous area disassociating themselves from Lydia Thorpe. And I think
Speaker 16: most Australians look at this and say, look, if you
Speaker 16: want to have a debate about the republic, fair enough,
Speaker 16: you know, you can have a view on whether you
Speaker 16: want to stay as a monarchical nation or not. But
Speaker 16: the reality is that this is self serving. Of course,
Speaker 16: Lydia Thorpe used to be in the Greens. She was
Speaker 16: elected as a Senator only because she was on the
Speaker 16: Greens ticket, So she's really living on borrow time. And
Speaker 16: I think that most Australians have just had a gutfull
Speaker 16: of of this kind of behavior.
Speaker 1: And of course she has form in this area. Reader.
Speaker 3: I do worry though that she will be re elected.
Speaker 3: We have seen this before and we are talking about Victoria.
Speaker 3: Do you think think at the next election she's going
Speaker 3: to be out the next time she has to be
Speaker 3: re elected.
Speaker 16: I think she'll struggle. But you are right to point
Speaker 16: out that it is Victoria. Anything can happen in Victoria, Rita.
Speaker 16: And you know, we have seen a lot of activism
Speaker 16: and real lacking of political leadership across Australia and particularly
Speaker 16: in Victoria on these issues. And the thing that concerns
Speaker 16: me is the kinds of things that Lydia Thorpe talks about,
Speaker 16: particularly around treaty and so called truth telling. Well, that's
Speaker 16: exactly where labor are going. You know, labor is going
Speaker 16: in that direction at a state level, at a federal level,
Speaker 16: you know, voice treaty truth that's what the Prime Minister
Speaker 16: committed to you know, on his first speech as Prime minister,
Speaker 16: that was his top promise to the Australian people to
Speaker 16: deliver that very radical agenda. Now, thank heavens, that was rejected.
Speaker 16: The voice was rejected by sixty percent of the public.
Speaker 16: But you know, we can see the left of the
Speaker 16: political spectrum being pulled in a very extreme radical direction.
Speaker 3: Now two Victorian premieres into Allen's grand plans to build
Speaker 3: fifty multi story housing complexes in a number of suburbs
Speaker 3: across Melbourne in order to help fix the state's housing crisis.
Speaker 3: But there's been speculation that this has been worked into
Speaker 3: a broader political play by the Allen government. The first
Speaker 3: ten locations set to receive these towers, I don't know
Speaker 3: if this is a coincidence, dand but they all tend
Speaker 3: to be in liberal leaning areas. Here we go North Brighton,
Speaker 3: Middle Brighton, Hampton, Sandringham, all Bayside and you've got Tuak
Speaker 3: Village in Tuak, Armadale, Malvern and Hawksburn among the top ten,
Speaker 3: and then also Hawthorne. Is that just a wild coincidence
Speaker 3: that these train stations and these suburbs are going to
Speaker 3: receive twenty to twenty five story towers. Certainly, the premieer
Speaker 3: was met with some very angry locals during her announcement
Speaker 3: of the plans in Brighton. I'm interested in your response
Speaker 3: because I do wonder if those who are complaining are
Speaker 3: guilty of being Nimbi's.
Speaker 1: Well rita.
Speaker 16: This is a very bad policy, clearly being made for
Speaker 16: political reasons. As you point out, these are all in
Speaker 16: Liberal seats, including a job a pseudo seat in Hawthorne,
Speaker 16: which is one of the.
Speaker 1: Key areas there. There's a lot of problems with this.
Speaker 16: Firstly, this is anti ethical to the Australian way of life.
Speaker 1: Australians want to.
Speaker 16: Live in detached houses with a bit of land so
Speaker 16: that they can raise families. That's been an instricable part
Speaker 16: of our culture. They don't want to live in dog
Speaker 16: box apartments twenty thirty stories high up in the air.
Speaker 16: They've not paid any attention to the locals here, and
Speaker 16: as I say, it's been done for political reasons because
Speaker 16: Labor believes that people who rent in high rise apartments
Speaker 16: are more likely to vote for Labor than they are Liberal. Now,
Speaker 16: I think that that's a contested proposition, but Nonetheless, that's
Speaker 16: what is informing this decision now for the coalition in Victoria,
Speaker 16: this is an absolute line in the sand moment. They
Speaker 16: have to oppose these developments. They need to outline an
Speaker 16: alternative vision and plan for the future population growth of
Speaker 16: Victoria and Metropolitan Melbourne. So far, I think they've said
Speaker 16: that they oppose it on the basis that they haven't
Speaker 16: consulted with the community, which implies that they may support
Speaker 16: it if there was consultation with the community. So there
Speaker 16: needs to be a very clear, unequivocal response here that
Speaker 16: this is a bad policy that inconsistent, completely inconsistent with
Speaker 16: our culture and our values, and the Victorians do not
Speaker 16: want it.
Speaker 3: I can just see it creating these slums across Melbourne
Speaker 3: at these train stations, having these boxes built, having all
Speaker 3: sorts of incentives to have people buy them, and they're
Speaker 3: talking about discounts on stamp duty and all sorts of
Speaker 3: other things that they're going to introduce for new builds.
Speaker 3: I do wonder what it also will do to the
Speaker 3: housing prices in those areas. We'll talk about housing being
Speaker 3: more affordable, but it is the biggest asset most Australians hold.
Speaker 3: Dan and nobody wants to see the biggest asset they
Speaker 3: hold go backwards after they've slaved a way to be
Speaker 3: able to pay off that house.
Speaker 1: Well, that's right.
Speaker 16: What you're seeing in Victoria really is the destruction of
Speaker 16: the middle class and the aspirational middle class. And this
Speaker 16: is a part of that. Because who's going to be
Speaker 16: owning these apartments. It's going to be the super funds.
Speaker 16: It's going to be a lot of build for rent.
Speaker 16: I mean, they say it's about ownership, but a lot
Speaker 16: of these apartments will be for rent. And there's going
Speaker 16: to be a lot of foreign ownership, including from the
Speaker 16: Chinese Communist Party. We know, so you know, this is
Speaker 16: not about facilitating upward economic and social advancement, which has
Speaker 16: been a key cornerstone of the success of our nation.
Speaker 16: This is taking us backwards. And it's a part of
Speaker 16: a deliberate strategy because Labour knows that their biggest voting cohort,
Speaker 16: so those in the public sector, the growing corporate bureaucracy,
Speaker 16: those who are tethered to the assistance of government in
Speaker 16: one way, shape or form. We saw through COVID the
Speaker 16: destruction of the middle class of small business owners and
Speaker 16: that's continuing under policies such as this.
Speaker 3: Before you go, I have to get your thoughts on
Speaker 3: former nine newspaper columnists Clementine Ford. It's the same Clementine
Speaker 3: Ford who helped spread the names of hundreds of pro
Speaker 3: Israel Jewish creatives earlier this year.
Speaker 17: Will remember that.
Speaker 3: Well, she's come out with this bizarre take on the
Speaker 3: death of her mass leader Yaya Sinwa, So full moon
Speaker 3: in aris.
Speaker 13: I'm not an astrologer.
Speaker 18: I just followed along astrology pages and tarado and basically
Speaker 18: like a big how collectively went through the world last
Speaker 18: night astrologically speaking, and then to wake up this morning
Speaker 18: and see you know that you see the news and
Speaker 18: to see the way that the corrupt Western Empire is
Speaker 18: framing the targeting of sin Walk.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting?
Speaker 3: Can you please translate for me? Be how astrologically speaking? Sinoa?
Speaker 3: What does it all mean?
Speaker 5: Dad?
Speaker 1: You're asking the wrong person. Reader.
Speaker 16: I've got no idea what Clementine is on about. And
Speaker 16: it's not the first time, and I'm sure i won't
Speaker 16: be the last time that I'm sort of lost for
Speaker 16: words in terms of her assessment of the situation. And look,
Speaker 16: I mean, she's got a lot of form in the
Speaker 16: area of strange commentary. She's after a bit of a headline,
Speaker 16: I think, and she's probably got what she wants, and
Speaker 16: I just think it goes to this point of, you know,
Speaker 16: the very bizarre kinds of commentary that we get out
Speaker 16: of some of these people these days.
Speaker 3: The far left never ceases to surprise. Dan Wild, thank
Speaker 3: you for your time this evening. Now let's bring in
Speaker 3: former Resources Minister and National's MP Keith Pitt Keith. It
Speaker 3: seems a group of protesters have perhaps been inspired by
Speaker 3: Senator Lydia forpes Antics. The anti colonial sentiment is certainly
Speaker 3: strong in the far left, and we now see a
Speaker 3: statue of Queen Victoria in Sydney's CBD vandalized this morning.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on those who think this country
Speaker 3: is illegitimate, it's built on genocide and we need a
Speaker 3: resistance for the indigenous community.
Speaker 19: Reader, I won't give you the full blob version. I'm
Speaker 19: not sure that you be AB will broadcast it. But firstly,
Speaker 19: what a disgrace will turn out by a senator for Victoria.
Speaker 19: This is the grand final streaker. But you can't work
Speaker 19: out whether they're trying to interrupt the game at a
Speaker 19: critical point or it's just pure exhibitionism and they want
Speaker 19: their ten seconds of glory. But ultimately, Senator the Thorpe's
Speaker 19: done enormous damage to the causes she says she supports.
Speaker 19: It's made Australia literally a laughing stock internationally. It's awful behavior.
Speaker 19: And to think that someone will be out there and
Speaker 19: mimic it in other places, well, they've got this completely wrong,
Speaker 19: completely wrong.
Speaker 3: Well on that stunt, she did swear allegiance to the Queen,
Speaker 3: didn't she You can't serve as a senator without taking
Speaker 3: the oath, that's my understanding.
Speaker 19: Well, that's exactly correct, and so to the Premier is
Speaker 19: from what I can recall, none of them ever bothered
Speaker 19: to show up either.
Speaker 1: But you do have to take an oath.
Speaker 19: And I did suggest loudly to Senator Thorpe that she
Speaker 19: might want to give up her salary from the invaders
Speaker 19: if that was her view, but I didn't get a response.
Speaker 19: She was not very far from me at all at
Speaker 19: the official welcome for the King in Parliament House. But
Speaker 19: the idea that you can have that sort of behavior
Speaker 19: and be a member of the Australian Senate and represent
Speaker 19: the state of Victoria. Well, I think Victoria invoters got
Speaker 19: an opportunity coming up whenever it is that the senator
Speaker 19: is up for reelection. And once again this is one
Speaker 19: we can thank the Greens for. Reader absolute extremists.
Speaker 3: Are you are you willing to debate Senator Thorpe. She
Speaker 3: did complain on radio that Peter Dutton whenever he sees
Speaker 3: her around Parliament House just goes the other direction. He
Speaker 3: doesn't confront her. If she is after a debate, would
Speaker 3: you be willing to come on Sky News and have
Speaker 3: a one on one debate with Senatility of Thought?
Speaker 19: I don't know, Senator thought, Well, I'm happy to debate anybody,
Speaker 19: doesn't matter which side they come from or well, we.
Speaker 3: Will try to make it happen. She's on the record
Speaker 3: wanting to have a debate, so let's go to her
Speaker 3: office and we will try to make it happen. And
Speaker 3: if she doesn't show up, I think that will say plenty.
Speaker 3: Now on that oath, she was called to swear the
Speaker 3: oath properly after she first gave us this performance.
Speaker 8: I thought so and sincerely.
Speaker 9: That I would be faithful and I bear true allegiance
Speaker 9: to the colonizing her Majesty Queen Elizabeth Senator.
Speaker 3: Thought and let's have a look at some of her
Speaker 3: other antics of her recent times. Here she is outside
Speaker 3: of Melbourne strip cob followed by her attacking at women's
Speaker 3: rights rally led by Kelly J. Keene. You man that
Speaker 3: stands with the like that someone in parliament you would
Speaker 3: be your personal love.
Speaker 1: This country and you.
Speaker 5: Get out of my face.
Speaker 3: Kingdom as the pilot.
Speaker 6: They know what biological text there, let's go.
Speaker 3: I shouldn't laugh, but it's such a person fit to
Speaker 3: sit in the Upper House, in the Australian Parliament.
Speaker 1: Read.
Speaker 19: I think this is the great thing. How good is
Speaker 19: Australian democracy? Absolutely anyone could be a member of Parliament, unless,
Speaker 19: of course you've got a criminal conviction of your bankrupt
Speaker 19: but literally anybody, and we have the support of the Greens.
Speaker 19: It literally is anyone. I clearly don't agree with Senator
Speaker 19: Thorpe's behavior. I think it's inappropriate. She's entitled to have
Speaker 19: a view, but I think she's done in chalcuable damage
Speaker 19: to her cause.
Speaker 1: And people are over it.
Speaker 7: They are absolutely over it now.
Speaker 3: Keith. Allegations of stabbings, fires and vandalism taking place across
Speaker 3: homeless camps in two inner city parks in Brisbane have
Speaker 3: forced Brisbane City Council to switch off power to these sides.
Speaker 3: The pictures coming out of there are shocking. This is
Speaker 3: not what you expect to see in a first world city.
Speaker 19: Well, this is what happens when people not only can't
Speaker 19: afford their rent, they can't afford their power bill and
Speaker 19: they are desperate, and desperate people do desperate things. I
Speaker 19: was talking to Senator former Senator Ron Boswell, not that
Speaker 19: long ago. Boss tells me he hasn't seen anything like
Speaker 19: this since the post war years, where they feel the
Speaker 19: Brisbane Exhibition showgrounds with tents for people who couldn't be housed.
Speaker 19: I just think it's a terrible reflection not only on
Speaker 19: our society but across all governments that this has been allowed.
Speaker 19: And you've got a labor government that well, what do
Speaker 19: they do? Brought in more than a million additional people
Speaker 19: with nowhere to put them. So how about we deal
Speaker 19: with this. This is a serious issue, and unfortunately, reader,
Speaker 19: I think there'll be more incidents like this because people
Speaker 19: just have such desperate need.
Speaker 3: And I think just looking at those images, there's a
Speaker 3: real fear someone could be seriously hurt or even die.
Speaker 3: You're having fires in these encampments at stabbings. It's just
Speaker 3: a terrible not just for those who are living there,
Speaker 3: but for those who live around these parks, who walk
Speaker 3: through them to get to home, to their homes or
Speaker 3: to their workplaces.
Speaker 19: And I've had similar issues in my electric We've had
Speaker 19: tents that catch on fire. You know, people are trying
Speaker 19: to get by with whatever they can find, and that
Speaker 19: means that you know, they do heat things up with
Speaker 19: their old traditional methods. And the worst part of this
Speaker 19: is in some cases there are children who are involved
Speaker 19: because they just can't find housing.
Speaker 1: And you put a lot of.
Speaker 19: Desperate people together, you get desperate acts and desperate outcomes.
Speaker 19: And it is past time that this was dealt with.
Speaker 19: And these people need somewhere to go, and they are
Speaker 19: not being helped by huge swaves of immigration prices they
Speaker 19: can't afford, and they're just being costed out of everything
Speaker 19: they try to attempt. I just think it's a terrible
Speaker 19: position to see the country and it should never have happened.
Speaker 3: Reader, never, Keith Pete, thank you so much for your
Speaker 3: time tonight. Let's bring in Victorian Libertarian MP David Limbrigg.
Speaker 3: He joins me in our Melbourne studio. David, thanks for
Speaker 3: your time. You've written in an op ed published exclusively
Speaker 3: on Elon Musk's X about the dangers of anti vilification laws.
Speaker 3: You're right. I can already guarantee you one thing. If
Speaker 3: these laws are implemented in their current form, one day,
Speaker 3: they will be weaponized against the pro palacedin inactivists the next.
Speaker 3: It's not a case of if, it's a case of when,
Speaker 3: and the when will be straight away. What makes you
Speaker 3: so sure of that.
Speaker 20: Well, I think one of the things that we need
Speaker 20: to think about is the people pushing these laws are
Speaker 20: often able to become the victims straight away. Now, the
Speaker 20: government said when they brought through these other laws recently
Speaker 20: that they tried to legislate away hate. With the Nazi
Speaker 20: salute laws, the government said, well, we hope that they'll
Speaker 20: never be used, and actually what happened was within forty
Speaker 20: eight hours of royal assent, someone was charged with these
Speaker 20: laws and they've totally backfired. I think that what will
Speaker 20: happen here is people are already gearing up to weaponize
Speaker 20: these laws as soon as they're enacted, and it'll be
Speaker 20: a race to get the first conviction.
Speaker 3: Do you see a lot of lawfare happening here, because
Speaker 3: we've seen that employed in the past, people working pro bono,
Speaker 3: and people are essentially going after their ideological opponents, anyone
Speaker 3: who has a voice.
Speaker 7: I disagree with absolutely.
Speaker 1: That's what will happen.
Speaker 20: And I've already been trying to outline some scenarios where
Speaker 20: this could happen, where the people that they thought were
Speaker 20: going to be targeted by these laws will actually be
Speaker 20: able to use them against their enemies. And this is
Speaker 20: what people don't think about. They always think about the
Speaker 20: speech of the people that they don't like, and don't
Speaker 20: think that they themselves could be targeted.
Speaker 3: Well, you are certainly trying to appeal to the logic
Speaker 3: and the free speech loving ways of the left. But
Speaker 3: the left these days they love censorship that I just
Speaker 3: don't expect it to be used against them. But you're
Speaker 3: right that the biggest problem with all kinds of government
Speaker 3: censorship is that it leaves someone to decide what the
Speaker 3: truth is or what is acceptable speech. A basic test
Speaker 3: for people who believe in censorship is to ask them
Speaker 3: to imagine what they think would happen if the person
Speaker 3: they hate the most was in charge. And you ask
Speaker 3: about the scenario if Peter Dutton is elected and here
Speaker 3: points a storage conservative I don't know, maybe like me
Speaker 3: to be the new E commissioner. Will the left be
Speaker 3: happy with that?
Speaker 20: Well, they'd be very interesting scenario with you as the
Speaker 20: new E Karen, and I'm sorry they wouldn't be happy
Speaker 20: with that. And that's exactly the sort of thing that
Speaker 20: could happen. That's at a federal level, but at a
Speaker 20: state level as well. You can still see the scenarios
Speaker 20: playing out in the future. You've got to remember that
Speaker 20: the laws are there forever, and they're going to be
Speaker 20: under all future governments, not just this one that you
Speaker 20: might like. They'll be under future governments that you might
Speaker 20: not like.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 3: Victoria's still manufacturers say they have been betrayed by the
Speaker 3: just into Allen government following revelations that over eleven thousand
Speaker 3: tons of steel to be used in Victoria's most expensive
Speaker 3: road project, the twenty six billion dollar Northeast Link, or
Speaker 3: sourced from China. They say this will likely result in
Speaker 3: job cuts. David, these projects are terribly over budget. In
Speaker 3: the case of the Northeast project, it's more than ten
Speaker 3: billion over budget. Is it fair enough that the Stell's
Speaker 3: coming from the cheapest source.
Speaker 20: Look, I think that taxpayers deserve to get the right
Speaker 20: product at the cheapest price, wherever that comes from. However,
Speaker 20: some of the things that have happened here. The government's
Speaker 20: actually asked these Australian steel producers to reserve production capacity,
Speaker 20: which is deeply unfair. And also you have to ask yourself, well,
Speaker 20: why isn't Australian steel more productive? You know, because of
Speaker 20: our energy policies, Because we have these policies on coal,
Speaker 20: we've made ourselves less competitive. And there's also some concerns
Speaker 20: about the quality of this stell, you know, is it
Speaker 20: actually a comparable product. I think there's a lot of
Speaker 20: questions here, and I think that these manufacturers, after being
Speaker 20: asked to reserve capacity, you have a right.
Speaker 1: To be upset.
Speaker 3: Well, it's the worst of both worlds. We're probably getting
Speaker 3: a substandard product and the project is still ten billion
Speaker 3: plus over budget. That's victoria for you. David Linbrick, thanks
Speaker 3: for your.
Speaker 1: Time this evening, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Still to come an extended edition of The Left. He
Speaker 3: is losing it. You'll be crazy to miss.
Speaker 17: That welcome back.
Speaker 3: Now it's time for lefties a losing air, and let's
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Speaker 3: and at top of his game.
Speaker 17: No more.
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Speaker 3: he seems determined to continue to embarrass himself campaigning for
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Speaker 7: What in de clurb we all found? I don't in
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Speaker 3: he has a lot of videos about cutting contact with
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Speaker 4: Should you cut off contact with family members just because
Speaker 4: they are voting for Donald Trump? Yes, if so far
Speaker 4: they have not been able or willing to listen to compassion,
Speaker 4: to listen to kindness, to listen to you, or even
Speaker 4: to do their own research and discover that hatred is
Speaker 4: not the answer, that love and kindness is the answer.
Speaker 4: If they are unwilling to change, they they must experience consequences.
Speaker 3: He's terrifying. They must face consequences for what. Wanting a
Speaker 3: strong economy secure borders, safe cities for wanting men out
Speaker 3: of women's sports and women's spaces. Let's see what else
Speaker 3: old mate Jeffrey has to say. I'm a little scared.
Speaker 4: And you not withhold those consequences from them. The consequence
Speaker 4: in this case would be they don't get your beautiful, loving,
Speaker 4: wonderful presence in their lives. It's over and they are gone.
Speaker 3: That's the modern left for you, folks, mad as cut
Speaker 3: snakes and somehow fooling themselves into thinking they're tolerant and inclusive.
Speaker 13: Now.
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Speaker 12: a president of the United States.
Speaker 15: You can go to I will Vote to check your
Speaker 15: polling place and make sure to vote early.
Speaker 1: I will get you.
Speaker 10: Voting early and vote FORMA.
Speaker 3: And here is another celebrity endorsement, this time from Lizzo
Speaker 3: president A.
Speaker 21: Oh my god, no, thank you for everything that you're doing.
Speaker 21: You're fighting for democracy for this country. I know it's hard,
Speaker 21: but you're so close. You're almost a your part, and
Speaker 21: I thank you for that.
Speaker 3: Let's win this.
Speaker 4: Go on.
Speaker 3: And listen here as pop star Lizo says that voting
Speaker 3: for the Democrats would turn America into Detroit. And that's
Speaker 3: a good thing. I'm so proud to be from this city.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 21: They say, if Kamala wins, then the whole country will
Speaker 21: be like Detroit, proud like Detroit, resilient like Detroit.
Speaker 3: Yes, let's have the crime through the roof, have the decay,
Speaker 3: the destruction that you see in Detroit, the fact that
Speaker 3: so many are fleeing the joint yet, really do we
Speaker 3: want to turn America into that? And one more celebrity
Speaker 3: endorsement before we get some aosc craziness. Here is Usher,
Speaker 3: who only a few weeks ago declined to do any
Speaker 3: sort of political messaging, any sort of political endorsement, but
Speaker 3: now here he is.
Speaker 14: I'm supporting Vice President Harris because she fights for everyone's
Speaker 14: rights for freedom, and it doesn't matter where you're from.
Speaker 14: She has a vision for our country that includes everyone.
Speaker 14: We've led through some very unfortunate realities.
Speaker 1: Of our past.
Speaker 3: However, we must learn.
Speaker 14: From those moments and understand that the voice that we
Speaker 14: have makes the difference that we want to see. We
Speaker 14: have to strive to not allow our past to define
Speaker 14: our future.
Speaker 3: Did he say that? Did he really say that? Now?
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's genius move to do some work experience at
Speaker 3: McDonald's was a hugely successful. Normal folk liked it and
Speaker 3: thought it was funny. Of course, he's mocking Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: for pretending she wants work. They're no evidence of that
Speaker 3: has been found so far, but they're left are having
Speaker 3: an almighty meltdown about Trump's Macca appearance, and AOC has
Speaker 3: decided he was mocking those who work at McDonald's. She's
Speaker 3: always so cluelessly wrong about everything and hysterical.
Speaker 22: Donald Trump putting on a little McDonald's costume because he
Speaker 22: thinks that's what people do. They're not trying to empathize
Speaker 22: with us, They are making fun of us. They're making
Speaker 22: fun of us. Donald Trump thinks that people who work
Speaker 22: at McDonald's are a joke.
Speaker 3: And here is the woman herself, Kamala Harris, earlier today.
Speaker 3: And yes, we got another word salad about aspirations, dreams, hopes.
Speaker 23: We have to tap into and rejoice frankly in the
Speaker 23: spirit of who we are as Americans, and we are
Speaker 23: and ambitious people. We have aspirations, we have dreams, We
Speaker 23: are optimistic by nature, and we I think value certain
Speaker 23: qualities in our leaders.
Speaker 3: Now, Tim Walls was on the View today and it
Speaker 3: was precisely what you'd expect, a softball, boring and at
Speaker 3: times unhinged affair. I've watched it, so you don't have to.
Speaker 3: You're welcome. Here are three highlights. Let's start with will
Speaker 3: Be Goldberg proving to the will that she doesn't understand
Speaker 3: election lules. And she's also here lashing ass at all Old.
Speaker 13: Musque and this people keep trying to buy the election. Yeah,
Speaker 13: billionaire Elon Musk has gone all in for you know who,
Speaker 13: and now he's giving out a million dollars a day
Speaker 13: to people who sign his super Pax petition. Now, I
Speaker 13: thought that was against the law, but apparently this then
Speaker 13: found some new loop stuff that allowed this to go.
Speaker 13: I thought you couldn't do this. What's happening?
Speaker 24: Well, I think that's what you do when you have
Speaker 24: no plan for the public, when you have no economic
Speaker 24: plan that's going to benefit the middle class, when you
Speaker 24: have no plan to protect reproductive rights, when you have
Speaker 24: no plan to address climate change and produce American energy,
Speaker 24: you go to these type of tactics.
Speaker 25: It's all about it's a concept.
Speaker 13: Aren't these tactics against the law, though, aren't you?
Speaker 24: Well, I'll let the lawyers decide.
Speaker 3: Even Elon has found some new loop stuff. Even someone
Speaker 3: as dense as Tim Walls knows that's not against the law,
Speaker 3: but he doesn't say it there, does he? Of course,
Speaker 3: it's not against the law to incentivize people to sign
Speaker 3: a petition. It's a petition, not a ballot. And given
Speaker 3: the Democrats have a big problem with male voters, why
Speaker 3: would they send Walls to a program watched by no
Speaker 3: men and no saying women either. Really, at least they
Speaker 3: gave him a present, So we've got.
Speaker 26: The view and a dad in pad.
Speaker 9: That to send the dre No, that's for you freshing
Speaker 9: up that wardrobe a little.
Speaker 8: But if you win, well you war it back. And
Speaker 8: come back and visit us.
Speaker 7: When you win, Well you wear.
Speaker 24: But that's what I was going to say, you know
Speaker 24: I'm wearing.
Speaker 3: And finally, here is Tim Walls claiming that he is
Speaker 3: a better shot than Republicans and has the trophies to
Speaker 3: prove it. If you believe that, you'll believe anything.
Speaker 25: So you're out hunting pheasants?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 25: Is that enough to convince people there's a middle ground
Speaker 25: on this issue because right now, right now, right wingers
Speaker 25: are coming after you for how you handle are your shotgun?
Speaker 24: Well I can shoot better than I.
Speaker 12: Got the trophies to prove it.
Speaker 3: Still to car, we'll have all the lators from the US,
Speaker 3: including the let's meltdown after Donald Trump's shift at Macca's.
Speaker 17: Josh Hammer joins next Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor at Large, Josh Hammer.
Speaker 3: Josh Elon Musk has been busy catching rockets and talking politics,
Speaker 3: and this little anecdote he tells about a voter who
Speaker 3: tried to show his ID shows just how crazy the
Speaker 3: system is in America and why so many people have
Speaker 3: little faith in the integrity of elections.
Speaker 15: A friend of mine went to a vote in Palo
Speaker 15: Walto in California, because he was like, is this real
Speaker 15: or not? And he tried to show his ID and
Speaker 15: it was like a like presenting across to a vampire,
Speaker 15: like they're.
Speaker 14: Like, no, no, put the idea away, Josh.
Speaker 3: Polls show that the majority of Americans, not just the
Speaker 3: majority of Republicans, support voter ID. Why are the Democrats
Speaker 3: so dead set against the idea?
Speaker 26: So, reader, First of all, I actually voted early. I'm
Speaker 26: wearing my little sticker here. I'm wearing my voted early sticker.
Speaker 26: I actually went to local poll here in Florida and
Speaker 26: I voted just about three hours. I'm talking to you,
Speaker 26: So for any Americans out there in the audience, I
Speaker 26: would strongly encourage you to do what I didn't, to
Speaker 26: go in and vote early. There is no reason to
Speaker 26: leave this to election day now. Personally read in my
Speaker 26: own personal opinion on this is that I think it
Speaker 26: should be only one election day.
Speaker 7: Make a national holiday if you have to.
Speaker 26: I don't like this whole early voting thing, but as
Speaker 26: long as that's the rule here in America, I intend
Speaker 26: to take advantage of it. On the voter I D
Speaker 26: thing because three hours ago when I vote in Florida.
Speaker 26: I showed up with my voter ID and it was
Speaker 26: basically a cakewalk. I have no good reason as to
Speaker 26: why Democratic elites. And here's the key point, it really
Speaker 26: is only Democratic elites. This is an issue that polls
Speaker 26: like seventy five to twenty five, seventy thirty, depends how
Speaker 26: exact that you want to do it. But a majority
Speaker 26: of Hispanics, a majority of Black Americans. There is really
Speaker 26: no demographic subgroup in America that I am aware of
Speaker 26: where a majority does not support voter ID legislation. Because
Speaker 26: walking around here in the United States, you need a
Speaker 26: voter I D to do basically anything. You want to
Speaker 26: go into a government building to get a marriage certificate,
Speaker 26: or you want to talk about your taxes, whatever, you
Speaker 26: need to show your voter ID. You want to go
Speaker 26: buy a case of alcohol, a bottle of vodka to
Speaker 26: keep whatever.
Speaker 7: You need an ID.
Speaker 26: You want to bor an airplane, you need an ID.
Speaker 26: It makes no sense what soever that you would not
Speaker 26: need an ID to do something as powerful, as important
Speaker 26: as actually choosing the direction of the fate of our republic.
Speaker 26: And I can think of no reason, frankly, to oppose
Speaker 26: this other than that you actually want illegal aliens to vote,
Speaker 26: You actually want fraud. I have to conclude that actually
Speaker 26: is the reason.
Speaker 7: Reader.
Speaker 26: I'm trying not to be cynical here, but I cannot
Speaker 26: think of another reason.
Speaker 7: I just can't.
Speaker 3: Josh, You're so right, as you said, the overwhelming majority
Speaker 3: of Americans support voter IDs. So why would the Democrats
Speaker 3: be so against it? Unless there is some dishonest reason.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you want to boost confidence in elections when
Speaker 3: that confidence has really fallen in recent years. Now it
Speaker 3: is also becoming increasingly clear that Democrats have a big
Speaker 3: problem with mail voters, white, male voters, black, Hispanic. It's
Speaker 3: across the board. And how are they addressing this issue
Speaker 3: while they're sending Tim Walls to the view And predictably,
Speaker 3: he was asked tough questions. No had any of his
Speaker 3: outlandish claims, I don't know fact checked.
Speaker 25: Right now, right wingers are coming after you for how
Speaker 25: you handle are your shotgun?
Speaker 9: Well?
Speaker 24: I can shoot better than I got the trophiesh to
Speaker 24: prove it.
Speaker 3: What do you think is this interview going to boost
Speaker 3: their chances with mal voters? And what is the answer
Speaker 3: to that problem? Because it's obviously one they're grappling with.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 26: You know, I think for every second that that Tim
Speaker 26: Wall sat down on that set with the not so
Speaker 26: very fine ladies of the view, he's probably losing testosterone
Speaker 26: in real time, frankly. So, you know, if they're trying
Speaker 26: to make inroads with the male voter, that they have
Speaker 26: clearly alienated. You know, by the way the media Rita.
Speaker 26: Speaking of the media, they also misrepresent this gender gap
Speaker 26: here in the twenty twenty four election. They talk all
Speaker 26: the time about how Republicans have a women problem, and
Speaker 26: they usually blame it on the abortion issue.
Speaker 7: They never talk about it.
Speaker 26: They never talk about the fact that men are going
Speaker 26: to vote for Trump over Kamala Harris at a historic rate.
Speaker 26: And part of that is because they're not willing to
Speaker 26: actually be introspective and to look into the mirror a
Speaker 26: little bit and ask them very difficult, pointing questions as
Speaker 26: to why that might be the case. First of all,
Speaker 26: I think you have to look at the transgender issue,
Speaker 26: the whole notion of gender ideology. The overwhelming majority of
Speaker 26: men in America are not down for that. I don't
Speaker 26: think the majority of women are down for that either.
Speaker 26: It definitely is not something that men want to hear
Speaker 26: when you try to tell them that if you feel
Speaker 26: like a woman, you can actually be a woman. You know,
Speaker 26: how about just good old school fashion, common sense, about
Speaker 26: trying to instill virtues in men, trying to get men
Speaker 26: to be protectors of the home, to marry young and
Speaker 26: to have children and to raise family.
Speaker 7: You know, all the great virtues.
Speaker 26: That men who are who are trained in those virtues
Speaker 26: have been able to rise to over the centuries. The
Speaker 26: Democratic Party in its current form has no interest in
Speaker 26: this whatsoever. They are solely interested in demasculating.
Speaker 7: Men out there.
Speaker 3: Look.
Speaker 26: I don't know exactly how they get themselves out of this,
Speaker 26: because they're really in it pretty deep at this point,
Speaker 26: but at a bare minimum, at a bare minimum, a.
Speaker 7: Good place to start.
Speaker 26: We to stop with all the DEI woke nonsense, because
Speaker 26: the entire current paradigm through which the left operates here
Speaker 26: in America and I guess the Western World War generally,
Speaker 26: when you talk about diversity, equity, inclusion, wokeism, it all
Speaker 26: ends up being basically a war against men, against whites Christians,
Speaker 26: and really white Christian men above all. And unless until
Speaker 26: the Democratic Party stops these explicitly racist anti white explicitly
Speaker 26: anti male sexist policies. I don't think that you're gonna
Speaker 26: see those kind of voters go back anytime soon. You
Speaker 26: know what happens to the good old fashioned barl luth
Speaker 26: king junior sentiment. Judge me not by the by the
Speaker 26: color of my skin or my genitalia structure. Fucking extractly,
Speaker 26: how about we just judge everyone beast on the continent
Speaker 26: of their character and their individual merit.
Speaker 7: That would be a better America.
Speaker 3: I think, well, they're very dirty words these days, Josh.
Speaker 3: You know, things have moved along in progressive circles. Even
Speaker 3: the word merit is got all sorts of connotations for
Speaker 3: those folk. Kamala Harris, though she is succeeding in not
Speaker 3: just alienating mal voters. But you've got to wonder hammid
Speaker 3: longer can the Jewish community so strongly back the Democrats.
Speaker 3: Have a look at this interaction at a campaign event
Speaker 3: where she agrees with a crazed protest accusing Israel of genocide.
Speaker 3: Just look at the short video of this.
Speaker 7: Ninety thousand children are dead. Go to column ninete, So.
Speaker 23: Listen what he's talking about. It's real, and so that's
Speaker 23: not the subject that I came to discuss today, but
Speaker 23: it's real and I respect his voice.
Speaker 3: Naturally, the Harris Wolfs campaign wants you to not to
Speaker 3: believe your lying eyes or ears. They denying that she
Speaker 3: agreed with the protester, but it's they're on the tape
Speaker 3: or you heard in that clip he accused Israel of genocide.
Speaker 3: Use that word. He then said they're responsible for ninety
Speaker 3: thousand children being dead, and she agreed with him. Again.
Speaker 3: How is it that so many in the Jewish community
Speaker 3: continue to back the Democrats even when they show that
Speaker 3: community where they stand on this critical.
Speaker 26: Issue, Reda, You're bringing up here a topic that I
Speaker 26: have been yelling about and ranting about since I was
Speaker 26: in middle school or high school. This has always been
Speaker 26: one of my lifelong pet thieves, is how politically stupid
Speaker 26: and self hating the American Jewish community is. Now, you know,
Speaker 26: it's worth noting that the American Jewish community is actually
Speaker 26: something of an international outlier when it comes to voting
Speaker 26: for the Party of the Love.
Speaker 7: So I refer to you.
Speaker 26: I could be wrong on this, but I think that
Speaker 26: historically the Australian Jewish community tends to vote for the
Speaker 26: right of center party. That is definitely true for the
Speaker 26: most part in recent elections in the UK and Britain.
Speaker 26: It's definitely true in Canada. Israel, by far the biggest
Speaker 26: Jewish population, is clearly a right of center country these days.
Speaker 26: So so America is something of an outlier.
Speaker 7: Tragically. I think that there are numerous reasons for this.
Speaker 26: Part of it is actually the metastasist of a deeply
Speaker 26: theologically progressive strand of Judaism, reform Judaism here in the
Speaker 26: United States, which is really not particularly popular outside of
Speaker 26: America in the world. But when you look at at
Speaker 26: Jewish voters when they tell polsters what issues they most
Speaker 26: care about rita, I mean, it basically reads like satire
Speaker 26: or parody. I mean a plurality of Jewish voters are
Speaker 26: having issues like climate change, immigration, justice, abortion on demand.
Speaker 26: It's galling the percentage of my fellow Jews here in
Speaker 26: America who actually vote on what we might call Jewish issues,
Speaker 26: whether it is support for Israel, whether it is religious
Speaker 26: liberty first amen values more generally, it's it's much much,
Speaker 26: much lower than it should be now. Thank God that
Speaker 26: that actually is starting to slowly change for demographic reasons.
Speaker 7: If nothing else.
Speaker 26: Because religious Jews have more children, they have more families,
Speaker 26: they tend to be more politically conservative. So so I
Speaker 26: think that this whole conversation is actually going to look
Speaker 26: a lot different, God willing, ten to fifteen years from now.
Speaker 26: But for now, you know, Unfortunately, Kamala Harris is probably
Speaker 26: not going to lose a ton of voters when it
Speaker 26: comes to this particular exchange because the kind of people
Speaker 26: that are voting for her don't really care very much
Speaker 26: about this particular issue. Having said that, I do predic
Speaker 26: Donald Trump's going to probably win about forty percent of
Speaker 26: the Jewish vote, thirty eight to forty percent of I
Speaker 26: had to put a number that would actually be the
Speaker 26: highest percentage since Ronald Reagan. It's still less than fifty percent.
Speaker 26: Still have a lot of work to do there, but
Speaker 26: that would be a pretty good result overall.
Speaker 3: Now, before you go, I've got to get your thoughts
Speaker 3: on Donald Trump doing a stint at McDonald's. The Democrats
Speaker 3: are losing their mind over this, The left wing media
Speaker 3: losing their mind over this. They're busy telling us that
Speaker 3: it was a media stunt. He didn't really work a shift.
Speaker 3: As if anybody thinks a billionaire and presidential candidate is
Speaker 3: actually working shifts at McDonald's. They're feeling the need to
Speaker 3: fact check this tell me about the merits of what
Speaker 3: he did and was it worth it?
Speaker 7: Oh? This was absolutely brilliant. This was political mastery.
Speaker 26: I mean, whoever had this idea is an absolute rock
Speaker 26: ribbed genius. I mean what we saw there, this photo
Speaker 26: of Donald Trump in the McDonald's apron, looking out the window, waving,
Speaker 26: smiling to whoever he had just served the Happy Meal
Speaker 26: or the Big Mac too. I mean that instantaneously has become,
Speaker 26: in my estimate, the second most iconic photo of the
Speaker 26: entire twenty twenty four presidential cycle, only after Donald Trump
Speaker 26: and Butler Pennsylvania with the bloody face raising the fist
Speaker 26: with the American flag. That's an old time historical photo.
Speaker 26: But this is honestly, like not a very distant second.
Speaker 26: This is a pretty close second. It's just genius stuff.
Speaker 26: Kamala Harris I maybe a week or two ago, was
Speaker 26: talking about how she worked in McDonald's and they couldn't
Speaker 26: find the record. So Donald Trump says, you know what,
Speaker 26: I'm just gonna go work at McDonald's. And most important,
Speaker 26: he looked like he was enjoying it. He's either a
Speaker 26: fantastic prior like an Oscar winning actor, or he was
Speaker 26: actually enjoying it. I think it's the latter. I think
Speaker 26: he looked like he looked like he's probably really enjoying it.
Speaker 26: He thrives in this setting of actually interacting with real
Speaker 26: blue collar, in the flesh Americans, and that kind of
Speaker 26: gets ultimately at Donald Trump's appeal, which is, yes, he
Speaker 26: is the Fifth Avenue New York City billionaire, He's also
Speaker 26: a man of the people. He is fundamentally what I
Speaker 26: referred to time and time again as a class trader
Speaker 26: to the rule class from which he comes. Yes, he
Speaker 26: has elite credentials. He went to the Warden School at
Speaker 26: University of Pennsylvania. He's worth oodles and oodles of money.
Speaker 26: But his heart, his sentiments, and his general worldview are
Speaker 26: not with the coastal elites here in America. They really
Speaker 26: are with the country class, with the people in the
Speaker 26: river valleys in the Midwest and the South and the
Speaker 26: mountain West and whatnot there. That is why I think
Speaker 26: he's going to win this election. It is McDonald's serving
Speaker 26: Big Max just like this that I genuinely do think
Speaker 26: you're going to deliver the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and therefore
Speaker 26: the presidency to Donald Trump come November fifth.
Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thank you so much for your time this evening.
Speaker 3: That's it from mail seer at eleven tomorrow up next
Speaker 3: is Newsnight.