1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: On SCO lils Ostodio. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: This is the Wader Panalty Show. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Paney Show coming 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 3: up tonight. The fallout from Lydia Thorpe's wild antics with 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 3: calls for her resignation, Coalition and f Keith Pitt joins 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 3: me shortly. Did you sent to Alan government under attack 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 3: for its controversial housing plan that will see high rise 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: towers at train stations across Melbourne. Josh Hammer will be 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 3: with me later in the hour with the latest from 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: the US, including Tim Walls adding to the Democrats men's 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: issues and we never forget left he's losing it. 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 4: Sure do you cut off contact with family members just 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 4: because they are voting for Donald Trump? Yes? 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: But first. The fallout continues from Lydia Thorpe's stunt during 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 3: King Charles's reception in Canberra yesterday, where she had this 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: to say to him. 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 5: You got aside against our people. Get up our land back, 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 5: give us by your. 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: Style from us, our bones. 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 6: Our scar, our baby, our people. 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: You dead. 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: We want the. 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: Training in this country. 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 7: Give up a. 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: This is not your lad. 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: This is not your lad. 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: Not surprising, Lis Senator Thorpe has received attention from media 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: outlets around the world, with UK outlets in particular being 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: shocked by her behavior. She's awful at the sudden newspaper said, 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: King Charles Heckler should be ashamed for appalling behavior. It's 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: a disgrace, they wrote. As she also made an appearance 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: on Sky News UK and she repeatedly clashed with hosts 33 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: Kay Burley. Have a look I did. 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 8: Why did you call him genocideal. 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 9: Which is the king's speech? 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 8: Why did you call him genocidal? 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 7: He waited till the end. 38 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 8: Why did you call because there's a genocide. 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 9: There's thousands of massacre sites in this country from invasion 40 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 9: and someone needs to answer for that, and that's he 41 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 9: is the successor, then he needs to answer. 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 8: Okay, thank you. 43 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: One of your colleagues, one of your colleagues described you 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: as abusing your position and your intervention was disgraceful. How 45 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: do you respond to that. 46 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 9: I'm not fussed about what people say about me. I 47 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 9: will continue to fight for justice for my people. We 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 9: are the real sovereigns in this country. The king is 49 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 9: not our sovereign. The king lives in your country. He's 50 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 9: from your country. He can't be our king. 51 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 7: So I don't really. 52 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: She also had this to say to gb News reporters 53 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: just after the altercation. 54 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 10: I got carried out by the AFP, so I didn't 55 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 10: get a chance to look around on who was supporting me. 56 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 10: But I certainly got a few nods from Aberiginal people 57 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 10: in the room to show that they support my resistance. 58 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: This morning, Peter Dutton made his feelings known on this issue. 59 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: We'll hear from him, and we'll also hear Senator Thorpe's 60 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: response should she resign. 61 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 11: I think there's a very strong argument for somebody who 62 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 11: doesn't believe in the system, but it's willing to take 63 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 11: quarter of a million dollars a year from the system 64 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 11: to resign in principle. And if you were really truly 65 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 11: about your cause and not just about yourself, then I 66 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 11: think that's a decision that you would make well. 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 10: First of all, Dutton say it to my face, because 68 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 10: every time I see him in Parliament he walks in 69 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 10: the opposite direction. 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 12: I really don't care. 71 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 13: What Dutton says. 72 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 14: I'm in this job for another three and. 73 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: A half years and I'm not looking to be re elected. 74 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 15: I'm looking to get justice by my people. 75 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: Joding me now is Deputy Executive Director the Institute of 76 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: Public Affairs, Dan Wilder. Can Lydia Thorpe really be part 77 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: of the resistance, as she calls herself if she's also 78 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 3: part of that system she collects a salary as an MP, 79 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: she sits in the Australian Parliament, in the upper House, 80 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: she swore an allegiance to the king or Queen in 81 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: her case. 82 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's right, Rita. 83 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 16: There's only twelve senators from Victoria. Lydia Thorpe is one 84 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 16: of them, and apparently she's the one that's being oppressed 85 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 16: that work. So I think what Peter Duncan said is right. 86 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 16: You know, you're happy to draw a quarter of a 87 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 16: million dollar salary from the system that you say is racist, 88 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 16: oppressive and colonial. People can see that this doesn't add up. 89 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 16: You've even had, you know, the activist class in the 90 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 16: Indigenous area disassociating themselves from Lydia Thorpe. And I think 91 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 16: most Australians look at this and say, look, if you 92 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 16: want to have a debate about the republic, fair enough, 93 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 16: you know, you can have a view on whether you 94 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 16: want to stay as a monarchical nation or not. But 95 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 16: the reality is that this is self serving. Of course, 96 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 16: Lydia Thorpe used to be in the Greens. She was 97 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 16: elected as a Senator only because she was on the 98 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 16: Greens ticket, So she's really living on borrow time. And 99 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 16: I think that most Australians have just had a gutfull 100 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 16: of of this kind of behavior. 101 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: And of course she has form in this area. Reader. 102 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: I do worry though that she will be re elected. 103 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: We have seen this before and we are talking about Victoria. 104 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: Do you think think at the next election she's going 105 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: to be out the next time she has to be 106 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: re elected. 107 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 16: I think she'll struggle. But you are right to point 108 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 16: out that it is Victoria. Anything can happen in Victoria, Rita. 109 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 16: And you know, we have seen a lot of activism 110 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 16: and real lacking of political leadership across Australia and particularly 111 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 16: in Victoria on these issues. And the thing that concerns 112 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 16: me is the kinds of things that Lydia Thorpe talks about, 113 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 16: particularly around treaty and so called truth telling. Well, that's 114 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 16: exactly where labor are going. You know, labor is going 115 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 16: in that direction at a state level, at a federal level, 116 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 16: you know, voice treaty truth that's what the Prime Minister 117 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 16: committed to you know, on his first speech as Prime minister, 118 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 16: that was his top promise to the Australian people to 119 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 16: deliver that very radical agenda. Now, thank heavens, that was rejected. 120 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 16: The voice was rejected by sixty percent of the public. 121 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 16: But you know, we can see the left of the 122 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 16: political spectrum being pulled in a very extreme radical direction. 123 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: Now two Victorian premieres into Allen's grand plans to build 124 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: fifty multi story housing complexes in a number of suburbs 125 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: across Melbourne in order to help fix the state's housing crisis. 126 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 3: But there's been speculation that this has been worked into 127 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: a broader political play by the Allen government. The first 128 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: ten locations set to receive these towers, I don't know 129 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: if this is a coincidence, dand but they all tend 130 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: to be in liberal leaning areas. Here we go North Brighton, 131 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: Middle Brighton, Hampton, Sandringham, all Bayside and you've got Tuak 132 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: Village in Tuak, Armadale, Malvern and Hawksburn among the top ten, 133 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: and then also Hawthorne. Is that just a wild coincidence 134 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: that these train stations and these suburbs are going to 135 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: receive twenty to twenty five story towers. Certainly, the premieer 136 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: was met with some very angry locals during her announcement 137 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: of the plans in Brighton. I'm interested in your response 138 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: because I do wonder if those who are complaining are 139 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: guilty of being Nimbi's. 140 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: Well rita. 141 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 16: This is a very bad policy, clearly being made for 142 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 16: political reasons. As you point out, these are all in 143 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 16: Liberal seats, including a job a pseudo seat in Hawthorne, 144 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 16: which is one of the. 145 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: Key areas there. There's a lot of problems with this. 146 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 16: Firstly, this is anti ethical to the Australian way of life. 147 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: Australians want to. 148 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 16: Live in detached houses with a bit of land so 149 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 16: that they can raise families. That's been an instricable part 150 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 16: of our culture. They don't want to live in dog 151 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 16: box apartments twenty thirty stories high up in the air. 152 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 16: They've not paid any attention to the locals here, and 153 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 16: as I say, it's been done for political reasons because 154 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 16: Labor believes that people who rent in high rise apartments 155 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 16: are more likely to vote for Labor than they are Liberal. Now, 156 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 16: I think that that's a contested proposition, but Nonetheless, that's 157 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 16: what is informing this decision now for the coalition in Victoria, 158 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 16: this is an absolute line in the sand moment. They 159 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 16: have to oppose these developments. They need to outline an 160 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 16: alternative vision and plan for the future population growth of 161 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 16: Victoria and Metropolitan Melbourne. So far, I think they've said 162 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 16: that they oppose it on the basis that they haven't 163 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 16: consulted with the community, which implies that they may support 164 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 16: it if there was consultation with the community. So there 165 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 16: needs to be a very clear, unequivocal response here that 166 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 16: this is a bad policy that inconsistent, completely inconsistent with 167 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 16: our culture and our values, and the Victorians do not 168 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 16: want it. 169 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: I can just see it creating these slums across Melbourne 170 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 3: at these train stations, having these boxes built, having all 171 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: sorts of incentives to have people buy them, and they're 172 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: talking about discounts on stamp duty and all sorts of 173 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: other things that they're going to introduce for new builds. 174 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 3: I do wonder what it also will do to the 175 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: housing prices in those areas. We'll talk about housing being 176 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: more affordable, but it is the biggest asset most Australians hold. 177 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: Dan and nobody wants to see the biggest asset they 178 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: hold go backwards after they've slaved a way to be 179 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: able to pay off that house. 180 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: Well, that's right. 181 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 16: What you're seeing in Victoria really is the destruction of 182 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 16: the middle class and the aspirational middle class. And this 183 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 16: is a part of that. Because who's going to be 184 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 16: owning these apartments. It's going to be the super funds. 185 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 16: It's going to be a lot of build for rent. 186 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 16: I mean, they say it's about ownership, but a lot 187 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 16: of these apartments will be for rent. And there's going 188 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 16: to be a lot of foreign ownership, including from the 189 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 16: Chinese Communist Party. We know, so you know, this is 190 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 16: not about facilitating upward economic and social advancement, which has 191 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 16: been a key cornerstone of the success of our nation. 192 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 16: This is taking us backwards. And it's a part of 193 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 16: a deliberate strategy because Labour knows that their biggest voting cohort, 194 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 16: so those in the public sector, the growing corporate bureaucracy, 195 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 16: those who are tethered to the assistance of government in 196 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 16: one way, shape or form. We saw through COVID the 197 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 16: destruction of the middle class of small business owners and 198 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 16: that's continuing under policies such as this. 199 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: Before you go, I have to get your thoughts on 200 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: former nine newspaper columnists Clementine Ford. It's the same Clementine 201 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: Ford who helped spread the names of hundreds of pro 202 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: Israel Jewish creatives earlier this year. 203 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 17: Will remember that. 204 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: Well, she's come out with this bizarre take on the 205 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: death of her mass leader Yaya Sinwa, So full moon 206 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 3: in aris. 207 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 13: I'm not an astrologer. 208 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 18: I just followed along astrology pages and tarado and basically 209 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 18: like a big how collectively went through the world last 210 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 18: night astrologically speaking, and then to wake up this morning 211 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 18: and see you know that you see the news and 212 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 18: to see the way that the corrupt Western Empire is 213 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 18: framing the targeting of sin Walk. 214 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 17: Yeah. 215 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: Interesting? 216 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: Can you please translate for me? Be how astrologically speaking? Sinoa? 217 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: What does it all mean? 218 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 5: Dad? 219 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: You're asking the wrong person. Reader. 220 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 16: I've got no idea what Clementine is on about. And 221 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 16: it's not the first time, and I'm sure i won't 222 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 16: be the last time that I'm sort of lost for 223 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 16: words in terms of her assessment of the situation. And look, 224 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 16: I mean, she's got a lot of form in the 225 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 16: area of strange commentary. She's after a bit of a headline, 226 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 16: I think, and she's probably got what she wants, and 227 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 16: I just think it goes to this point of, you know, 228 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 16: the very bizarre kinds of commentary that we get out 229 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 16: of some of these people these days. 230 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: The far left never ceases to surprise. Dan Wild, thank 231 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: you for your time this evening. Now let's bring in 232 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: former Resources Minister and National's MP Keith Pitt Keith. It 233 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: seems a group of protesters have perhaps been inspired by 234 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: Senator Lydia forpes Antics. The anti colonial sentiment is certainly 235 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: strong in the far left, and we now see a 236 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: statue of Queen Victoria in Sydney's CBD vandalized this morning. 237 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on those who think this country 238 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: is illegitimate, it's built on genocide and we need a 239 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: resistance for the indigenous community. 240 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 19: Reader, I won't give you the full blob version. I'm 241 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 19: not sure that you be AB will broadcast it. But firstly, 242 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 19: what a disgrace will turn out by a senator for Victoria. 243 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 19: This is the grand final streaker. But you can't work 244 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 19: out whether they're trying to interrupt the game at a 245 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 19: critical point or it's just pure exhibitionism and they want 246 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 19: their ten seconds of glory. But ultimately, Senator the Thorpe's 247 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 19: done enormous damage to the causes she says she supports. 248 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 19: It's made Australia literally a laughing stock internationally. It's awful behavior. 249 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 19: And to think that someone will be out there and 250 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 19: mimic it in other places, well, they've got this completely wrong, 251 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 19: completely wrong. 252 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: Well on that stunt, she did swear allegiance to the Queen, 253 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: didn't she You can't serve as a senator without taking 254 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,119 Speaker 3: the oath, that's my understanding. 255 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 19: Well, that's exactly correct, and so to the Premier is 256 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 19: from what I can recall, none of them ever bothered 257 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 19: to show up either. 258 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: But you do have to take an oath. 259 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 19: And I did suggest loudly to Senator Thorpe that she 260 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 19: might want to give up her salary from the invaders 261 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 19: if that was her view, but I didn't get a response. 262 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 19: She was not very far from me at all at 263 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 19: the official welcome for the King in Parliament House. But 264 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 19: the idea that you can have that sort of behavior 265 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 19: and be a member of the Australian Senate and represent 266 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 19: the state of Victoria. Well, I think Victoria invoters got 267 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 19: an opportunity coming up whenever it is that the senator 268 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 19: is up for reelection. And once again this is one 269 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 19: we can thank the Greens for. Reader absolute extremists. 270 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: Are you are you willing to debate Senator Thorpe. She 271 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: did complain on radio that Peter Dutton whenever he sees 272 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: her around Parliament House just goes the other direction. He 273 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: doesn't confront her. If she is after a debate, would 274 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: you be willing to come on Sky News and have 275 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: a one on one debate with Senatility of Thought? 276 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 19: I don't know, Senator thought, Well, I'm happy to debate anybody, 277 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 19: doesn't matter which side they come from or well, we. 278 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: Will try to make it happen. She's on the record 279 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: wanting to have a debate, so let's go to her 280 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: office and we will try to make it happen. And 281 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: if she doesn't show up, I think that will say plenty. 282 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: Now on that oath, she was called to swear the 283 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: oath properly after she first gave us this performance. 284 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 8: I thought so and sincerely. 285 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,359 Speaker 9: That I would be faithful and I bear true allegiance 286 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 9: to the colonizing her Majesty Queen Elizabeth Senator. 287 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: Thought and let's have a look at some of her 288 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: other antics of her recent times. Here she is outside 289 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: of Melbourne strip cob followed by her attacking at women's 290 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: rights rally led by Kelly J. Keene. You man that 291 00:16:53,840 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: stands with the like that someone in parliament you would 292 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: be your personal love. 293 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: This country and you. 294 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 5: Get out of my face. 295 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: Kingdom as the pilot. 296 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 6: They know what biological text there, let's go. 297 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: I shouldn't laugh, but it's such a person fit to 298 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: sit in the Upper House, in the Australian Parliament. 299 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: Read. 300 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 19: I think this is the great thing. How good is 301 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 19: Australian democracy? Absolutely anyone could be a member of Parliament, unless, 302 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 19: of course you've got a criminal conviction of your bankrupt 303 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 19: but literally anybody, and we have the support of the Greens. 304 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 19: It literally is anyone. I clearly don't agree with Senator 305 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 19: Thorpe's behavior. I think it's inappropriate. She's entitled to have 306 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 19: a view, but I think she's done in chalcuable damage 307 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 19: to her cause. 308 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: And people are over it. 309 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 7: They are absolutely over it now. 310 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: Keith. Allegations of stabbings, fires and vandalism taking place across 311 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: homeless camps in two inner city parks in Brisbane have 312 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: forced Brisbane City Council to switch off power to these sides. 313 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: The pictures coming out of there are shocking. This is 314 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: not what you expect to see in a first world city. 315 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 19: Well, this is what happens when people not only can't 316 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 19: afford their rent, they can't afford their power bill and 317 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 19: they are desperate, and desperate people do desperate things. I 318 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 19: was talking to Senator former Senator Ron Boswell, not that 319 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 19: long ago. Boss tells me he hasn't seen anything like 320 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 19: this since the post war years, where they feel the 321 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 19: Brisbane Exhibition showgrounds with tents for people who couldn't be housed. 322 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 19: I just think it's a terrible reflection not only on 323 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 19: our society but across all governments that this has been allowed. 324 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 19: And you've got a labor government that well, what do 325 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 19: they do? Brought in more than a million additional people 326 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 19: with nowhere to put them. So how about we deal 327 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 19: with this. This is a serious issue, and unfortunately, reader, 328 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 19: I think there'll be more incidents like this because people 329 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 19: just have such desperate need. 330 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: And I think just looking at those images, there's a 331 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 3: real fear someone could be seriously hurt or even die. 332 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: You're having fires in these encampments at stabbings. It's just 333 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: a terrible not just for those who are living there, 334 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: but for those who live around these parks, who walk 335 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: through them to get to home, to their homes or 336 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: to their workplaces. 337 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 19: And I've had similar issues in my electric We've had 338 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 19: tents that catch on fire. You know, people are trying 339 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 19: to get by with whatever they can find, and that 340 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 19: means that you know, they do heat things up with 341 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 19: their old traditional methods. And the worst part of this 342 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 19: is in some cases there are children who are involved 343 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 19: because they just can't find housing. 344 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: And you put a lot of. 345 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 19: Desperate people together, you get desperate acts and desperate outcomes. 346 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 19: And it is past time that this was dealt with. 347 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 19: And these people need somewhere to go, and they are 348 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 19: not being helped by huge swaves of immigration prices they 349 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 19: can't afford, and they're just being costed out of everything 350 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 19: they try to attempt. I just think it's a terrible 351 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 19: position to see the country and it should never have happened. 352 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: Reader, never, Keith Pete, thank you so much for your 353 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: time tonight. Let's bring in Victorian Libertarian MP David Limbrigg. 354 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: He joins me in our Melbourne studio. David, thanks for 355 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 3: your time. You've written in an op ed published exclusively 356 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 3: on Elon Musk's X about the dangers of anti vilification laws. 357 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: You're right. I can already guarantee you one thing. If 358 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: these laws are implemented in their current form, one day, 359 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: they will be weaponized against the pro palacedin inactivists the next. 360 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: It's not a case of if, it's a case of when, 361 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: and the when will be straight away. What makes you 362 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 3: so sure of that. 363 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 20: Well, I think one of the things that we need 364 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 20: to think about is the people pushing these laws are 365 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 20: often able to become the victims straight away. Now, the 366 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 20: government said when they brought through these other laws recently 367 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 20: that they tried to legislate away hate. With the Nazi 368 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 20: salute laws, the government said, well, we hope that they'll 369 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 20: never be used, and actually what happened was within forty 370 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 20: eight hours of royal assent, someone was charged with these 371 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 20: laws and they've totally backfired. I think that what will 372 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 20: happen here is people are already gearing up to weaponize 373 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 20: these laws as soon as they're enacted, and it'll be 374 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 20: a race to get the first conviction. 375 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: Do you see a lot of lawfare happening here, because 376 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 3: we've seen that employed in the past, people working pro bono, 377 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: and people are essentially going after their ideological opponents, anyone 378 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 3: who has a voice. 379 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 7: I disagree with absolutely. 380 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: That's what will happen. 381 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 20: And I've already been trying to outline some scenarios where 382 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 20: this could happen, where the people that they thought were 383 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 20: going to be targeted by these laws will actually be 384 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 20: able to use them against their enemies. And this is 385 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 20: what people don't think about. They always think about the 386 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 20: speech of the people that they don't like, and don't 387 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 20: think that they themselves could be targeted. 388 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: Well, you are certainly trying to appeal to the logic 389 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 3: and the free speech loving ways of the left. But 390 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: the left these days they love censorship that I just 391 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: don't expect it to be used against them. But you're 392 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: right that the biggest problem with all kinds of government 393 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 3: censorship is that it leaves someone to decide what the 394 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: truth is or what is acceptable speech. A basic test 395 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: for people who believe in censorship is to ask them 396 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: to imagine what they think would happen if the person 397 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: they hate the most was in charge. And you ask 398 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: about the scenario if Peter Dutton is elected and here 399 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 3: points a storage conservative I don't know, maybe like me 400 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: to be the new E commissioner. Will the left be 401 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: happy with that? 402 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 20: Well, they'd be very interesting scenario with you as the 403 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 20: new E Karen, and I'm sorry they wouldn't be happy 404 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 20: with that. And that's exactly the sort of thing that 405 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 20: could happen. That's at a federal level, but at a 406 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 20: state level as well. You can still see the scenarios 407 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 20: playing out in the future. You've got to remember that 408 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 20: the laws are there forever, and they're going to be 409 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 20: under all future governments, not just this one that you 410 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 20: might like. They'll be under future governments that you might 411 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 20: not like. 412 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 11: Now. 413 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: Victoria's still manufacturers say they have been betrayed by the 414 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: just into Allen government following revelations that over eleven thousand 415 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: tons of steel to be used in Victoria's most expensive 416 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: road project, the twenty six billion dollar Northeast Link, or 417 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: sourced from China. They say this will likely result in 418 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 3: job cuts. David, these projects are terribly over budget. In 419 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: the case of the Northeast project, it's more than ten 420 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: billion over budget. Is it fair enough that the Stell's 421 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: coming from the cheapest source. 422 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 20: Look, I think that taxpayers deserve to get the right 423 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 20: product at the cheapest price, wherever that comes from. However, 424 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 20: some of the things that have happened here. The government's 425 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 20: actually asked these Australian steel producers to reserve production capacity, 426 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 20: which is deeply unfair. And also you have to ask yourself, well, 427 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 20: why isn't Australian steel more productive? You know, because of 428 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 20: our energy policies, Because we have these policies on coal, 429 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 20: we've made ourselves less competitive. And there's also some concerns 430 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 20: about the quality of this stell, you know, is it 431 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 20: actually a comparable product. I think there's a lot of 432 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 20: questions here, and I think that these manufacturers, after being 433 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 20: asked to reserve capacity, you have a right. 434 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: To be upset. 435 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 3: Well, it's the worst of both worlds. We're probably getting 436 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: a substandard product and the project is still ten billion 437 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: plus over budget. That's victoria for you. David Linbrick, thanks 438 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: for your. 439 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: Time this evening, Thanks for having me. 440 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 3: Still to come an extended edition of The Left. He 441 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: is losing it. You'll be crazy to miss. 442 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 17: That welcome back. 443 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 3: Now it's time for lefties a losing air, and let's 444 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 3: start lefties with a man who was once considered cool 445 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: and at top of his game. 446 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 17: No more. 447 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: Trump derangement syndrome has broken Robert de Niro's brain, and 448 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: he seems determined to continue to embarrass himself campaigning for 449 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: the Democrats. Exactly who is this convincing them? 450 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: Now? 451 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 3: But in the clur we all found? 452 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 7: What in de clurb we all found? I don't in 453 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 7: the club. 454 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: We are all family now to transactivist Jeffrey marsh and 455 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 3: he has a lot of videos about cutting contact with 456 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: your parents, cutting contact with your family members, loved ones, 457 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: and he's just found another reason to do that. 458 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 4: Should you cut off contact with family members just because 459 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 4: they are voting for Donald Trump? Yes, if so far 460 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: they have not been able or willing to listen to compassion, 461 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: to listen to kindness, to listen to you, or even 462 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 4: to do their own research and discover that hatred is 463 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: not the answer, that love and kindness is the answer. 464 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: If they are unwilling to change, they they must experience consequences. 465 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 3: He's terrifying. They must face consequences for what. Wanting a 466 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 3: strong economy secure borders, safe cities for wanting men out 467 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: of women's sports and women's spaces. Let's see what else 468 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: old mate Jeffrey has to say. I'm a little scared. 469 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: And you not withhold those consequences from them. The consequence 470 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 4: in this case would be they don't get your beautiful, loving, 471 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 4: wonderful presence in their lives. It's over and they are gone. 472 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: That's the modern left for you, folks, mad as cut 473 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: snakes and somehow fooling themselves into thinking they're tolerant and inclusive. 474 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 13: Now. 475 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: Another celebrity brought in to push the Kamala bandwagon is 476 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: pop star Billy Eilish. She stars in this cringy little 477 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: video with mister Kamala Doug Knock him out, Knock him out, 478 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: Ermoff and his daughter, who I'm told is a model. 479 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: And there's also some other dude in the video I've 480 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 3: never seen before. 481 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 12: Everyone, second, gentlemen here, we've got to all get out 482 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 12: there and make sure you're registered and make sure you're 483 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 12: voting early for my wife and Mamola Kamala Harris for 484 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 12: a president of the United States. 485 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 15: You can go to I will Vote to check your 486 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 15: polling place and make sure to vote early. 487 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: I will get you. 488 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 10: Voting early and vote FORMA. 489 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 3: And here is another celebrity endorsement, this time from Lizzo 490 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: president A. 491 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 21: Oh my god, no, thank you for everything that you're doing. 492 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 21: You're fighting for democracy for this country. I know it's hard, 493 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 21: but you're so close. You're almost a your part, and 494 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 21: I thank you for that. 495 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: Let's win this. 496 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 4: Go on. 497 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: And listen here as pop star Lizo says that voting 498 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: for the Democrats would turn America into Detroit. And that's 499 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: a good thing. I'm so proud to be from this city. 500 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 12: You know. 501 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 21: They say, if Kamala wins, then the whole country will 502 00:28:54,560 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 21: be like Detroit, proud like Detroit, resilient like Detroit. 503 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: Yes, let's have the crime through the roof, have the decay, 504 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: the destruction that you see in Detroit, the fact that 505 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: so many are fleeing the joint yet, really do we 506 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: want to turn America into that? And one more celebrity 507 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: endorsement before we get some aosc craziness. Here is Usher, 508 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: who only a few weeks ago declined to do any 509 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: sort of political messaging, any sort of political endorsement, but 510 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 3: now here he is. 511 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 14: I'm supporting Vice President Harris because she fights for everyone's 512 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 14: rights for freedom, and it doesn't matter where you're from. 513 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 14: She has a vision for our country that includes everyone. 514 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 14: We've led through some very unfortunate realities. 515 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: Of our past. 516 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: However, we must learn. 517 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 14: From those moments and understand that the voice that we 518 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 14: have makes the difference that we want to see. We 519 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 14: have to strive to not allow our past to define 520 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 14: our future. 521 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 3: Did he say that? Did he really say that? Now? 522 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's genius move to do some work experience at 523 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: McDonald's was a hugely successful. Normal folk liked it and 524 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: thought it was funny. Of course, he's mocking Kamala Harris 525 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: for pretending she wants work. They're no evidence of that 526 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: has been found so far, but they're left are having 527 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: an almighty meltdown about Trump's Macca appearance, and AOC has 528 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: decided he was mocking those who work at McDonald's. She's 529 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: always so cluelessly wrong about everything and hysterical. 530 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 22: Donald Trump putting on a little McDonald's costume because he 531 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 22: thinks that's what people do. They're not trying to empathize 532 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 22: with us, They are making fun of us. They're making 533 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 22: fun of us. Donald Trump thinks that people who work 534 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 22: at McDonald's are a joke. 535 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: And here is the woman herself, Kamala Harris, earlier today. 536 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: And yes, we got another word salad about aspirations, dreams, hopes. 537 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 23: We have to tap into and rejoice frankly in the 538 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 23: spirit of who we are as Americans, and we are 539 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 23: and ambitious people. We have aspirations, we have dreams, We 540 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 23: are optimistic by nature, and we I think value certain 541 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 23: qualities in our leaders. 542 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: Now, Tim Walls was on the View today and it 543 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: was precisely what you'd expect, a softball, boring and at 544 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 3: times unhinged affair. I've watched it, so you don't have to. 545 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: You're welcome. Here are three highlights. Let's start with will 546 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: Be Goldberg proving to the will that she doesn't understand 547 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: election lules. And she's also here lashing ass at all Old. 548 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 13: Musque and this people keep trying to buy the election. Yeah, 549 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 13: billionaire Elon Musk has gone all in for you know who, 550 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 13: and now he's giving out a million dollars a day 551 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 13: to people who sign his super Pax petition. Now, I 552 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 13: thought that was against the law, but apparently this then 553 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 13: found some new loop stuff that allowed this to go. 554 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 13: I thought you couldn't do this. What's happening? 555 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 24: Well, I think that's what you do when you have 556 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 24: no plan for the public, when you have no economic 557 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 24: plan that's going to benefit the middle class, when you 558 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 24: have no plan to protect reproductive rights, when you have 559 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 24: no plan to address climate change and produce American energy, 560 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 24: you go to these type of tactics. 561 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 25: It's all about it's a concept. 562 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 13: Aren't these tactics against the law, though, aren't you? 563 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 24: Well, I'll let the lawyers decide. 564 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: Even Elon has found some new loop stuff. Even someone 565 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: as dense as Tim Walls knows that's not against the law, 566 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 3: but he doesn't say it there, does he? Of course, 567 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: it's not against the law to incentivize people to sign 568 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: a petition. It's a petition, not a ballot. And given 569 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: the Democrats have a big problem with male voters, why 570 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: would they send Walls to a program watched by no 571 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: men and no saying women either. Really, at least they 572 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: gave him a present, So we've got. 573 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 26: The view and a dad in pad. 574 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 9: That to send the dre No, that's for you freshing 575 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 9: up that wardrobe a little. 576 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 8: But if you win, well you war it back. And 577 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 8: come back and visit us. 578 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 7: When you win, Well you wear. 579 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 24: But that's what I was going to say, you know 580 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 24: I'm wearing. 581 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: And finally, here is Tim Walls claiming that he is 582 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: a better shot than Republicans and has the trophies to 583 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 3: prove it. If you believe that, you'll believe anything. 584 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 25: So you're out hunting pheasants? 585 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: Yep? 586 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 25: Is that enough to convince people there's a middle ground 587 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 25: on this issue because right now, right now, right wingers 588 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 25: are coming after you for how you handle are your shotgun? 589 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 24: Well I can shoot better than I. 590 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 12: Got the trophies to prove it. 591 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 3: Still to car, we'll have all the lators from the US, 592 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 3: including the let's meltdown after Donald Trump's shift at Macca's. 593 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 17: Josh Hammer joins next Welcome back. 594 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor at Large, Josh Hammer. 595 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: Josh Elon Musk has been busy catching rockets and talking politics, 596 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 3: and this little anecdote he tells about a voter who 597 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: tried to show his ID shows just how crazy the 598 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 3: system is in America and why so many people have 599 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: little faith in the integrity of elections. 600 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 15: A friend of mine went to a vote in Palo 601 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 15: Walto in California, because he was like, is this real 602 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 15: or not? And he tried to show his ID and 603 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 15: it was like a like presenting across to a vampire, 604 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 15: like they're. 605 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 14: Like, no, no, put the idea away, Josh. 606 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 3: Polls show that the majority of Americans, not just the 607 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: majority of Republicans, support voter ID. Why are the Democrats 608 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 3: so dead set against the idea? 609 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 26: So, reader, First of all, I actually voted early. I'm 610 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 26: wearing my little sticker here. I'm wearing my voted early sticker. 611 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 26: I actually went to local poll here in Florida and 612 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 26: I voted just about three hours. I'm talking to you, 613 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 26: So for any Americans out there in the audience, I 614 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 26: would strongly encourage you to do what I didn't, to 615 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 26: go in and vote early. There is no reason to 616 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 26: leave this to election day now. Personally read in my 617 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 26: own personal opinion on this is that I think it 618 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 26: should be only one election day. 619 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 7: Make a national holiday if you have to. 620 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 26: I don't like this whole early voting thing, but as 621 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 26: long as that's the rule here in America, I intend 622 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 26: to take advantage of it. On the voter I D 623 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 26: thing because three hours ago when I vote in Florida. 624 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 26: I showed up with my voter ID and it was 625 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 26: basically a cakewalk. I have no good reason as to 626 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 26: why Democratic elites. And here's the key point, it really 627 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 26: is only Democratic elites. This is an issue that polls 628 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 26: like seventy five to twenty five, seventy thirty, depends how 629 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 26: exact that you want to do it. But a majority 630 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 26: of Hispanics, a majority of Black Americans. There is really 631 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 26: no demographic subgroup in America that I am aware of 632 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 26: where a majority does not support voter ID legislation. Because 633 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 26: walking around here in the United States, you need a 634 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 26: voter I D to do basically anything. You want to 635 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 26: go into a government building to get a marriage certificate, 636 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 26: or you want to talk about your taxes, whatever, you 637 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 26: need to show your voter ID. You want to go 638 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 26: buy a case of alcohol, a bottle of vodka to 639 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 26: keep whatever. 640 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 7: You need an ID. 641 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 26: You want to bor an airplane, you need an ID. 642 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 26: It makes no sense what soever that you would not 643 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 26: need an ID to do something as powerful, as important 644 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 26: as actually choosing the direction of the fate of our republic. 645 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 26: And I can think of no reason, frankly, to oppose 646 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 26: this other than that you actually want illegal aliens to vote, 647 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 26: You actually want fraud. I have to conclude that actually 648 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 26: is the reason. 649 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 7: Reader. 650 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 26: I'm trying not to be cynical here, but I cannot 651 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 26: think of another reason. 652 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 7: I just can't. 653 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 3: Josh, You're so right, as you said, the overwhelming majority 654 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 3: of Americans support voter IDs. So why would the Democrats 655 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 3: be so against it? Unless there is some dishonest reason. 656 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you want to boost confidence in elections when 657 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 3: that confidence has really fallen in recent years. Now it 658 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 3: is also becoming increasingly clear that Democrats have a big 659 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: problem with mail voters, white, male voters, black, Hispanic. It's 660 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: across the board. And how are they addressing this issue 661 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 3: while they're sending Tim Walls to the view And predictably, 662 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 3: he was asked tough questions. No had any of his 663 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 3: outlandish claims, I don't know fact checked. 664 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 25: Right now, right wingers are coming after you for how 665 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 25: you handle are your shotgun? 666 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 9: Well? 667 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 24: I can shoot better than I got the trophiesh to 668 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 24: prove it. 669 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 3: What do you think is this interview going to boost 670 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 3: their chances with mal voters? And what is the answer 671 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 3: to that problem? Because it's obviously one they're grappling with. 672 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 673 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 26: You know, I think for every second that that Tim 674 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 26: Wall sat down on that set with the not so 675 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 26: very fine ladies of the view, he's probably losing testosterone 676 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 26: in real time, frankly. So, you know, if they're trying 677 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 26: to make inroads with the male voter, that they have 678 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 26: clearly alienated. You know, by the way the media Rita. 679 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 26: Speaking of the media, they also misrepresent this gender gap 680 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 26: here in the twenty twenty four election. They talk all 681 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 26: the time about how Republicans have a women problem, and 682 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 26: they usually blame it on the abortion issue. 683 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 7: They never talk about it. 684 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 26: They never talk about the fact that men are going 685 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 26: to vote for Trump over Kamala Harris at a historic rate. 686 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 26: And part of that is because they're not willing to 687 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 26: actually be introspective and to look into the mirror a 688 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 26: little bit and ask them very difficult, pointing questions as 689 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 26: to why that might be the case. First of all, 690 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 26: I think you have to look at the transgender issue, 691 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 26: the whole notion of gender ideology. The overwhelming majority of 692 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 26: men in America are not down for that. I don't 693 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 26: think the majority of women are down for that either. 694 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 26: It definitely is not something that men want to hear 695 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 26: when you try to tell them that if you feel 696 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 26: like a woman, you can actually be a woman. You know, 697 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 26: how about just good old school fashion, common sense, about 698 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 26: trying to instill virtues in men, trying to get men 699 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 26: to be protectors of the home, to marry young and 700 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 26: to have children and to raise family. 701 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 7: You know, all the great virtues. 702 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 26: That men who are who are trained in those virtues 703 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 26: have been able to rise to over the centuries. The 704 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 26: Democratic Party in its current form has no interest in 705 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 26: this whatsoever. They are solely interested in demasculating. 706 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 7: Men out there. 707 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 3: Look. 708 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 26: I don't know exactly how they get themselves out of this, 709 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 26: because they're really in it pretty deep at this point, 710 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 26: but at a bare minimum, at a bare minimum, a. 711 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 7: Good place to start. 712 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 26: We to stop with all the DEI woke nonsense, because 713 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 26: the entire current paradigm through which the left operates here 714 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 26: in America and I guess the Western World War generally, 715 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 26: when you talk about diversity, equity, inclusion, wokeism, it all 716 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 26: ends up being basically a war against men, against whites Christians, 717 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 26: and really white Christian men above all. And unless until 718 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 26: the Democratic Party stops these explicitly racist anti white explicitly 719 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 26: anti male sexist policies. I don't think that you're gonna 720 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 26: see those kind of voters go back anytime soon. You 721 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 26: know what happens to the good old fashioned barl luth 722 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 26: king junior sentiment. Judge me not by the by the 723 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 26: color of my skin or my genitalia structure. Fucking extractly, 724 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 26: how about we just judge everyone beast on the continent 725 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 26: of their character and their individual merit. 726 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 7: That would be a better America. 727 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 3: I think, well, they're very dirty words these days, Josh. 728 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 3: You know, things have moved along in progressive circles. Even 729 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 3: the word merit is got all sorts of connotations for 730 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 3: those folk. Kamala Harris, though she is succeeding in not 731 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 3: just alienating mal voters. But you've got to wonder hammid 732 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 3: longer can the Jewish community so strongly back the Democrats. 733 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 3: Have a look at this interaction at a campaign event 734 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 3: where she agrees with a crazed protest accusing Israel of genocide. 735 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 3: Just look at the short video of this. 736 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 7: Ninety thousand children are dead. Go to column ninete, So. 737 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 23: Listen what he's talking about. It's real, and so that's 738 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 23: not the subject that I came to discuss today, but 739 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 23: it's real and I respect his voice. 740 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 3: Naturally, the Harris Wolfs campaign wants you to not to 741 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 3: believe your lying eyes or ears. They denying that she 742 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 3: agreed with the protester, but it's they're on the tape 743 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 3: or you heard in that clip he accused Israel of genocide. 744 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 3: Use that word. He then said they're responsible for ninety 745 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 3: thousand children being dead, and she agreed with him. Again. 746 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 3: How is it that so many in the Jewish community 747 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 3: continue to back the Democrats even when they show that 748 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 3: community where they stand on this critical. 749 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 26: Issue, Reda, You're bringing up here a topic that I 750 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 26: have been yelling about and ranting about since I was 751 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 26: in middle school or high school. This has always been 752 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 26: one of my lifelong pet thieves, is how politically stupid 753 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 26: and self hating the American Jewish community is. Now, you know, 754 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 26: it's worth noting that the American Jewish community is actually 755 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 26: something of an international outlier when it comes to voting 756 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 26: for the Party of the Love. 757 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 7: So I refer to you. 758 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 26: I could be wrong on this, but I think that 759 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 26: historically the Australian Jewish community tends to vote for the 760 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 26: right of center party. That is definitely true for the 761 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 26: most part in recent elections in the UK and Britain. 762 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 26: It's definitely true in Canada. Israel, by far the biggest 763 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 26: Jewish population, is clearly a right of center country these days. 764 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 26: So so America is something of an outlier. 765 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 7: Tragically. I think that there are numerous reasons for this. 766 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 26: Part of it is actually the metastasist of a deeply 767 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 26: theologically progressive strand of Judaism, reform Judaism here in the 768 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 26: United States, which is really not particularly popular outside of 769 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 26: America in the world. But when you look at at 770 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,959 Speaker 26: Jewish voters when they tell polsters what issues they most 771 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 26: care about rita, I mean, it basically reads like satire 772 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 26: or parody. I mean a plurality of Jewish voters are 773 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 26: having issues like climate change, immigration, justice, abortion on demand. 774 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 26: It's galling the percentage of my fellow Jews here in 775 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 26: America who actually vote on what we might call Jewish issues, 776 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 26: whether it is support for Israel, whether it is religious 777 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 26: liberty first amen values more generally, it's it's much much, 778 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 26: much lower than it should be now. Thank God that 779 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 26: that actually is starting to slowly change for demographic reasons. 780 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 7: If nothing else. 781 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 26: Because religious Jews have more children, they have more families, 782 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 26: they tend to be more politically conservative. So so I 783 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 26: think that this whole conversation is actually going to look 784 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 26: a lot different, God willing, ten to fifteen years from now. 785 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 26: But for now, you know, Unfortunately, Kamala Harris is probably 786 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 26: not going to lose a ton of voters when it 787 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 26: comes to this particular exchange because the kind of people 788 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 26: that are voting for her don't really care very much 789 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 26: about this particular issue. Having said that, I do predic 790 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 26: Donald Trump's going to probably win about forty percent of 791 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 26: the Jewish vote, thirty eight to forty percent of I 792 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 26: had to put a number that would actually be the 793 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 26: highest percentage since Ronald Reagan. It's still less than fifty percent. 794 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 26: Still have a lot of work to do there, but 795 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 26: that would be a pretty good result overall. 796 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 3: Now, before you go, I've got to get your thoughts 797 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 3: on Donald Trump doing a stint at McDonald's. The Democrats 798 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 3: are losing their mind over this, The left wing media 799 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 3: losing their mind over this. They're busy telling us that 800 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 3: it was a media stunt. He didn't really work a shift. 801 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 3: As if anybody thinks a billionaire and presidential candidate is 802 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 3: actually working shifts at McDonald's. They're feeling the need to 803 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 3: fact check this tell me about the merits of what 804 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 3: he did and was it worth it? 805 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 7: Oh? This was absolutely brilliant. This was political mastery. 806 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 26: I mean, whoever had this idea is an absolute rock 807 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 26: ribbed genius. I mean what we saw there, this photo 808 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 26: of Donald Trump in the McDonald's apron, looking out the window, waving, 809 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 26: smiling to whoever he had just served the Happy Meal 810 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 26: or the Big Mac too. I mean that instantaneously has become, 811 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 26: in my estimate, the second most iconic photo of the 812 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 26: entire twenty twenty four presidential cycle, only after Donald Trump 813 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 26: and Butler Pennsylvania with the bloody face raising the fist 814 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 26: with the American flag. That's an old time historical photo. 815 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 26: But this is honestly, like not a very distant second. 816 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 26: This is a pretty close second. It's just genius stuff. 817 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 26: Kamala Harris I maybe a week or two ago, was 818 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,280 Speaker 26: talking about how she worked in McDonald's and they couldn't 819 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 26: find the record. So Donald Trump says, you know what, 820 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 26: I'm just gonna go work at McDonald's. And most important, 821 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 26: he looked like he was enjoying it. He's either a 822 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 26: fantastic prior like an Oscar winning actor, or he was 823 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 26: actually enjoying it. I think it's the latter. I think 824 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 26: he looked like he looked like he's probably really enjoying it. 825 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 26: He thrives in this setting of actually interacting with real 826 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 26: blue collar, in the flesh Americans, and that kind of 827 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 26: gets ultimately at Donald Trump's appeal, which is, yes, he 828 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 26: is the Fifth Avenue New York City billionaire, He's also 829 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 26: a man of the people. He is fundamentally what I 830 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 26: referred to time and time again as a class trader 831 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 26: to the rule class from which he comes. Yes, he 832 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 26: has elite credentials. He went to the Warden School at 833 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 26: University of Pennsylvania. He's worth oodles and oodles of money. 834 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 26: But his heart, his sentiments, and his general worldview are 835 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 26: not with the coastal elites here in America. They really 836 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 26: are with the country class, with the people in the 837 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 26: river valleys in the Midwest and the South and the 838 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 26: mountain West and whatnot there. That is why I think 839 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 26: he's going to win this election. It is McDonald's serving 840 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 26: Big Max just like this that I genuinely do think 841 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 26: you're going to deliver the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and therefore 842 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 26: the presidency to Donald Trump come November fifth. 843 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thank you so much for your time this evening. 844 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 3: That's it from mail seer at eleven tomorrow up next 845 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 3: is Newsnight.