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Speaker 1: Apodjae Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom?

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Speaker 1: Podcast?

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Speaker 3: Where we constantly asked that question, am I a bad Mom?

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Speaker 1: Again and again and again.

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Speaker 4: I also get now because my kids are old enough, mom,

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Speaker 4: you're being a bad mom?

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Speaker 1: Like this is content via podcast.

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Speaker 3: I've said numerous times that as the kids get older,

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Speaker 3: you really got to do some work on yourself and

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Speaker 3: your self esteem because they make you feel like shit,

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Speaker 3: like oh, literally put clothes on and they'll like look

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Speaker 3: me up and down like mean girl, like what are

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Speaker 3: you wearing?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Just before when you were saying it, and I was

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Speaker 4: commenting about how nice you look, and I was like, look,

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Speaker 4: we're on a camera.

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Speaker 1: This is great.

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Speaker 4: We should use this piece of content on a camera

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Speaker 4: because you look lovely. You said, Oh, do you know

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Speaker 4: what Holly said to me today?

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Speaker 2: You look like a watermelon.

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting you going you're really nice, and your child

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Speaker 4: goes you look like a watermelon.

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Speaker 3: It's like being back at school and being bullied, and like,

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Speaker 3: I was really lucky.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really get Oh, I got Michelle. I remember Michelle.

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Speaker 3: She told me that I couldn't play with them and

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Speaker 3: if I wanted to I just had to be a tree,

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Speaker 3: and so I would stand in the playground like that

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Speaker 3: as a tree. And that was her being nice because

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Speaker 3: she did once say you can just be the thin air.

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Speaker 1: Who the fuck is Michelle? Have that pipe down? I'll

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Speaker 1: do whatever I want.

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Speaker 4: I would have probably been that person in the playground

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Speaker 4: that would have belted Michelle.

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Speaker 1: Then you wonder why my kids are late? They are.

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Speaker 1: I have to say though, just carrying that on?

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Speaker 4: Is that twice this week from both children I have

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Speaker 4: had haymum, when you grow out of this?

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Speaker 1: Can I have these?

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Speaker 4: I was like, if you aren't going to get any bigger,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to give them because my feet aren't

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Speaker 4: going to grow out of them. I don't have what

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Speaker 4: you have, which is changing feet every five minutes, like

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Speaker 4: I am fully grown. Elsie goes, well, just when I

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Speaker 4: get big enough, I'm going to take them, okaye.

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Speaker 1: And then Gracie sees like a brand new T shirt

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Speaker 1: and she goes, oh, I really like that.

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Speaker 4: She goes, when you grow out of that, you might

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Speaker 4: grow like and I was like, what get bigger and

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Speaker 4: not be able to wear it?

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Speaker 3: But you've got to enjoy that stage because once they

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Speaker 3: get to teenagers. They don't think anything that you wear

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Speaker 3: is nice. I've saved stuff for them, Rach, Like, I've

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Speaker 3: been through my wardrobe and gone, I'm never going to

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Speaker 3: get in that mini skirt again, like things like that

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Speaker 3: or that dress is a bit skimpy now bit mutton, and.

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Speaker 1: And that is so good. I've not known that for you.

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Speaker 3: And I've kept stuff for them, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: look at what I've got you like even like denim.

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Speaker 2: Jackets, Like what's wrong with that? I like leave eyes

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Speaker 1: Leave us back in? Aren't they like? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: What I've realized is that it's not that they don't

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Speaker 3: like the clothes. It's just that they think anything that

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Speaker 4: It's no, it's just a no mum. Well, at least

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Speaker 4: they still like what I wear.

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Speaker 1: Am I a bad mum for rewriting their story? Yes?

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Speaker 3: So, as we know, your husband, Sam Thaday was last

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Speaker 3: night's winner of I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here.

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Speaker 3: But there's so much that we haven't talked about, Like,

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Speaker 3: for example, you and I chatted about the letters from Home.

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Speaker 1: So he's been in the jungle for weeks and weeks

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Speaker 1: and weeks.

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Speaker 4: The kids aren't missing him like crazy, but have loved

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Speaker 4: the idea that they can watch him every night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that has definitely helped.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite episodes been the dancing. You know,

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Speaker 3: they all had to do the dancing, the twerking.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: I had so much satisfaction showing that to Gracie right

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Speaker 4: before school because they haven't been staying. It's too late, right,

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Speaker 4: so they only get to a certain time. And then

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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, bed, whatever you miss I'll let you know,

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Speaker 4: or it'll be online tomorrow. This particular thing of him

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Speaker 4: dancing that's all over online.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even see it. You're watching masks. I don't

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Speaker 1: because they're going to bed.

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Speaker 4: Ah, it's just a train wreck.

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Speaker 1: I cannot anyway, so I couldn't wait.

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Speaker 4: Joe Gracie the next day, just before she was going

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Speaker 4: to school, and I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, Hey, do you want to see eat dad

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Speaker 1: did last night?

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Speaker 4: And I showed her and she was like, oh she

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Speaker 4: was flipping. Oh my god, I'm so embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: I can't even walk into the school yard now people

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Speaker 1: don't know Dad's dad. That's disgusting. Why did he open

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Speaker 1: his shirt? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: It was so I watched it and when yes, there

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Speaker 2: he is.

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Speaker 4: Yes, then there was another opportunity for the girls to

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Speaker 4: be able to connect with him.

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Speaker 1: You know, they ask you to write a letter from home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they do that as an episode, like

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Speaker 3: it's a really whole life. They all sit around and

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Speaker 3: they read each other's letters home, and it's.

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Speaker 1: All it's so like I didn't realize how emotional it was.

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Speaker 2: But like I cried, I'm not even in there.

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Speaker 4: So I just literally said to the girls, go and

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Speaker 4: write Dad a letter, and it has to be one page,

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Speaker 4: and then bring it back.

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Speaker 1: Elsie's is folded, got a little bit of a.

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Speaker 4: Story in there, maybe about three sentences, and then Graces

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Speaker 4: is like dear Dad, and it's like point by point

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Speaker 4: by point of her whole life over the last five weeks,

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Speaker 4: and then a photo. I had to rewrite their versions

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Speaker 4: than one page, okay, right, join blay the like the

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Speaker 4: whole thing, the actual actual one that went live.

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Speaker 1: So they snipped my snipped version of the story.

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Speaker 2: You'll read it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can hear it. First of what says Daddy's

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Speaker 1: out here.

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Speaker 4: The girls are literally screaming at you every single night, hearing.

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Speaker 1: You on, trying to call you their dad.

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Speaker 4: They want you to know that we're all good here

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Speaker 1: Three women in one household is like living.

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Speaker 2: In the Marc room talent.

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Speaker 1: Ha. He's crying right now. I'm cool.

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Speaker 4: You're right.

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Speaker 1: And leaning into every day as it comes. Love you

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Speaker 1: to the moon and back and EVTs crying.

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Speaker 4: Well, then they show the photos, so now you can

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Speaker 1: That's the back of G's and then the other one.

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Speaker 3: The thing that I love the most about my girls

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Speaker 3: is they have huge hearts. But they got a lot

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Speaker 3: of moxy about them too, and I wouldn't have it

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Speaker 1: It's really nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm really glad that you can sit here

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Speaker 3: and tell us actually what happened?

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Speaker 4: That was beautiful, so nice, right, And I had to

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Speaker 4: summarize both of their letters.

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Speaker 1: That was Elsie's.

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Speaker 4: The front of Elsie's it literally says, too, Sammy, I

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Speaker 1: And then that was the back of Grace's.

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Speaker 1: Pps, I love you gg.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us what the letters said? Originally?

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Speaker 4: So originally I was like, if I went through graces,

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Speaker 2: Literally it was literally, dear dad, this happened on Monday.

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Speaker 4: I broke up with such and such. Don't worry, I

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Speaker 4: open it up. It said, Dad, stay in the jungle

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Speaker 4: as long as you can. It's just like camping with

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Speaker 2: With don't come home. And that's sure the winner you

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Speaker 1: You're not welcome back home.

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Speaker 2: And so what the producers didn't want nothing?

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Speaker 1: I couldn't said that. I was like that goes live people.

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Speaker 1: They won't understand who we are. Obviously.

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Speaker 4: Now I summarized it into one YEP and just sort

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Speaker 4: This is how I wrapped it up. We all hope

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Speaker 4: that you're loving being in the jungle. The girl said,

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Speaker 4: We are happy and protected, so don't worry about a

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Speaker 1: Elsie said, Dad, we love you so much.

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Speaker 4: Keep living in the jungle. It's like camping with no tent.

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Speaker 4: And remember first place always counts. You've got this, Oh god,

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Speaker 4: moon and back. You know, it's all there.

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Speaker 1: But I had to rewrite their stories.

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Speaker 4: I felt a bit bad about that, but at the

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Speaker 4: same time kind of needed to generalize it but also

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Speaker 4: just take out that part of like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: We said that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was enough, but there was also like some

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Speaker 4: unless you win, don't bring anything else home other than

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if you're allowed to say or not,

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Speaker 3: but he was struggling a little bit to start with

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Speaker 3: and you having to take on everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the night that he was handing his phone over

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Speaker 4: there was a part of like ride.

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Speaker 1: At the start before it even got in.

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Speaker 4: Obviously weren't allowed to go anywhere and do any of

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Speaker 4: So he handed his phone over like a week out

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Speaker 4: and he was doubting at that. He's like, oh, I've

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Speaker 1: Oh I need to get out. I can't do this

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Speaker 1: and like and I was like, too bad. Ro you

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Speaker 1: signed up? There's lock a load.

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Speaker 4: Basically the producer touches base when they.

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Speaker 1: Need something from you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And at that time they were like, oh, it's

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Speaker 4: pop up from the lull again.

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Speaker 1: But he did.

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Speaker 4: He came back stronger than ever with his dances to it,

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Speaker 4: and he's half stripping, that's what Gracie called it.

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Speaker 1: Why is he stripping on TV? I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: god

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Speaker 3: Knows, Yeah, well paid off stripper Sam for the wind