1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: You're a people. Enjoy a couple of our best of 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and don't forget you can. You can 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: follow us on the Apple and Spotify apps. A Madge, 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Good to have you here, mate, you're in the old 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: place around the corner. We've become one of the We've 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: become these wankers that buy a house around the corner 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: and just move. You know. 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: I think we probably had to get away from that 9 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: place with the memories we had. 10 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: Did you were belly ate, Yeah, that was. 11 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: A long time ago. It was fourteen years ago. 12 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: I tear what it was magic it was it was 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: you had just been beaten forty nil by Manly. He 14 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: just went away in a fact finding mission on to Boston. Yeah, 15 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: and you were in Boston when Red Sox, when the 16 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: Red Sox won first World Series one hundred years Yeah, 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: it was. 18 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: It was incredible. The streets were absolutely madness. Yeah, it 19 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: was a great, great time to be over there. But 20 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: we did a bit of a fact finding mission and 21 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: obviously came back to your palace. Yeah, and did a 22 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: bit of fact finding at your Andrew. 23 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: I think it was it was it was funny. We 24 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: were knocking them down bellyaches. You know, you're very disciplined. Man. 25 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: That was sitting there. He's had two beers and that 26 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: was it. Me and Madge. We basically we found the 27 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: bottom of the bottle a few times. 28 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: Were playing music through the glass to just do on that. 29 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: That's what Dad used to do, match she used to 30 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: rather because he never knew how to work a speaker bluetooth, 31 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: so we used to just find a cup and then 32 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: he's put his iPhone in the cup to try to 33 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: amplify the music. 34 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: I think you were still using cassits back then, it 35 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: was yeah, yeah, that's right. 36 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, just kicked us off the bed. Yeah, a badge. 37 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,639 Speaker 1: Stay with the state of origin stuff. State of origin 38 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: for players its next level level as far as precures concerned. 39 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: What about as a coach. 40 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I've obviously for a long time, I've wanted 41 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: to do it and I've been in the coach again 42 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: for a long time there. Yeah, the enormity of origin 43 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 2: is exactly what everyone talks about. You know, I've always 44 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: wanted to be in the arena and obviously had the 45 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: opportunity to coach and it was unreal, like you well, 46 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: but you know, it's all about a result, but just 47 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: the whole build up, creating a campaign, getting the players together, 48 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: get your staff together. New South Wales are very you know, 49 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: they allowed me to basically bring in the people that 50 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: I wanted, which was really good. 51 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:09,279 Speaker 1: We had an. 52 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: Exceptional group of staff, the Plying group all board in 53 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: of many different conversations that we had. So I guess 54 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: when you talk about the pressure and things like that, 55 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: I actually had so many great people around in that space. 56 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: I guess it takes away a lot of that. 57 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: How different is it preparing for coaching a full NRL 58 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: season as opposed to that six weeks block of stat 59 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: of origin? 60 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: It is different, Goop, Like you're you're basically in an 61 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: origin campaign, you've got the best of the best. When 62 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: you're coaching an NRL campaign, you've got probably five to 63 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: maybe ten of the players that are the superstars of 64 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: your team, and then you've got the next level down 65 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: that are developing and they're trying to get to the 66 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: next level and level I use that so you're, yeah, 67 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: you are, You're our coaching the best, So allowing those players, 68 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: you's just got to make sure you don't get in 69 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: the way. You've got a little bit of a plan 70 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: and you share that with the players, and the level 71 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: of conversations that you have with the players at their 72 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: next level, like you is you know, you go, boys, 73 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: this is what I like to do, and they'll have 74 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: the conversation and they actually go and do it. Whereas 75 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: when you're at sort of club land, you're probably taking 76 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: two or three weeks to potentially get to where you 77 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: want to get to. So you can fast track things 78 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: really quickly when you've got the best players. You know, 79 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: I never been through all the ups and downs of 80 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: what it might take to get to an NRL player. 81 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: You know, they're now at the highest level. And what 82 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: you've got when you're coaching at that level is that 83 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: you don't have a lot of the peripheral issues that 84 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: are going on around the club. Yeah, the salary caps, 85 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: the various noises within your club where the club sits, 86 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: you're basically walking in. You've got a clean slate in 87 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: the way here we go. So coaching at that level, 88 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it all. But I still really enjoy 89 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: the other side of it, you know, with the enareal stuff. 90 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: But when you get to coach at the highest level, 91 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: it's a nice place A question for you, because it's 92 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: human nature that the outcome of something dictates how you 93 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: look back on it. Tell me about the two weeks 94 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: when you w one kneel down. Yeah, I was really calm. 95 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: I felt I was really calm just because of the 96 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: belief that I had in the group of men that 97 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: I had and the staff, and just how we're evolving. 98 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: I felt that the first week. Obviously, like any campaign 99 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: you walk in, you've got your first week. Players are 100 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: trying to work out how Madge goes about things, how 101 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: your staff go about things. We're trying to work out 102 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: how we play. So going into game one, I still 103 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 2: probably felt a little bit underdone knowing where we would 104 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: be because of the nature of it's our first time. 105 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: When you go into Origin, you've only got three lots 106 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: of eight days. You don't have this long building. It's 107 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: basically day one. You've got to connect with everyone. Obviously 108 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: you've done a lot of work prior to going into 109 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: the campaign itself, and then you go about right, o, boys, 110 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: this is how I would like to see us play. 111 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: They have their discussions and then you get it out 112 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: on the field, and that does take a bit of time. 113 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: But what I did see with the group because a 114 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: lot of them had been through various origins over periods 115 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: of time. They did know each other, so that connection 116 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: was there, and we just tried to enhance what had 117 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: been done in the past and the way the players 118 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: got about each other. I think that was the real 119 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: enjoyment part. 120 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: When I first went down to Melbourne in the early nineties, 121 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: it was like going to a different planet. It was 122 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: a different country culturally everything, but particularly sport Like honestly, 123 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't think basically if you if you mentioned rugby league, 124 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: you may as well be talking about lacrosse. 125 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 126 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but just hanging in their roofs and all the 127 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: stuff they did just changed. 128 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: Ye. 129 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: Well, they had good people to start which got into 130 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: the business world, the high end of Melbourne, and that 131 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: then created the swell. But you are right, man, I 132 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: remember getting off the plane down there when I was 133 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: in the sistant jage and no one like you walk 134 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: past and they'd have no idea what was. 135 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 3: Which is not the worst thing for an NRL club 136 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: to enjoy yourselves. 137 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: Talk about that. They did to sort of promote it 138 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: in the first that first season when we went down 139 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: to play them, They're like, oh, this is the warm 140 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: up area. This is where we went the day before, 141 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: and we're like, what and what it was? It was 142 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: like an indoor cricket for into a cricket cricket pe tree. Yeah, 143 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: and what the next minute and there was a perch 144 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: of glass and there was all these people having a meal. 145 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: So all the corporates would sit and watch you warm up, 146 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: and we said, we're not doing that. So we found 147 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: out there was an oval which we thought was about 148 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: one hundred meters away, like a Richmond's old ground, So 149 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: we went warmed up there, and once we were taped 150 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: and warmed up there, we realized it was two k's away. 151 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: Made that they had to delay kick off because it 152 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: took us that long to get to the ground. We're 153 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: walking through parked with our gear on in the dark. 154 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: I know, you cotch in origin. That's where your focus 155 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: is at the moment. Are you Are you keen in 156 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: the next couple of years to get back into club land? 157 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely many. I'm hungry to win another competition. 158 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: So who's who's your club you're on? 159 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: I got a couple you know, I've obviously seen what 160 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: it looks like, you know, when the club's up and running. 161 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: I've also seen the other end, and you know, I'm 162 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: well adverse to sort of having a look at a 163 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: club now to go. I believe that one is ready, 164 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: and you know, if I jump in again, when I 165 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: jump in again, but I'm going to believe that club 166 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: can win. 167 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: Is there any that you don't have to name? Obviously 168 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: you can do the sound of the mascot if you want, 169 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: but at the any are there any that have reached 170 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: out and just seeing if you're interested in the future. 171 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: Look at the moment, I'm loving the origin, but also too, 172 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: like you know, I have a passion each week where 173 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: I love the coaching. I literally love enjoy and help 174 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: and grow. A young man walk into a club all 175 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: of a sudden he's playing first grade. Then all of 176 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: a sudden he's playing started, or you might be playing 177 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: for his country. Like was that? 178 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: So? 179 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: I do have a passion for being in clubland? 180 00:07:59,120 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: Is that? 181 00:07:59,800 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: Sure? 182 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 5: Is that short origin period? Just it's not boring, but 183 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 5: it's a sugar scratch. It's a bit of a scratch 184 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 5: for what I like doing. And you've got a member. 185 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: I've been doing this for a long time, Coop. So 186 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 5: the day daily stuff, the weekly stuff. I actually get 187 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 5: a kick out of Origin. Maybe it is unbelievable. I 188 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 5: can't tell you how big it is. Is a you 189 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: know and you know what it's like, and you know, 190 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 5: if I could stretch that Origin campaign out over twenty 191 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 5: weeks may be the best. I think Queensland do match 192 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 5: oftentimes as they win the narrative and the Morons have 193 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 5: the Queensland call, which is iconic for them. Class houses 194 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 5: will be I think, and it's two shirt worthy. I 195 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 5: think that you'll start to do two shirts. I think 196 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 5: it will be a catch cry for New South Wales. 197 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 5: It might sound far fish, but I think it really 198 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: changed the narrative of the series. When you said that Madge, 199 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 5: was it strategic or it just happened? 200 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: It was actually the second part, but a lot that 201 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: led to that was probably what put me into that space. Yeah. 202 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: The best way I've explaining it was that I've been 203 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: watching Origin for such long period of time. I had 204 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: my own thoughts how as a coach, I'd like to 205 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: be in that space, but I wanted to make it 206 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: very much more about us. You know, forever we're hearing 207 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: about what the other state's doing and what the Coeensander 208 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: up to and things like that. So I completely just 209 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: wanted to focus on ourselves and you know, the situation 210 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: happened there in their Game one and I felt that, 211 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to stick up for us. 212 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: It's our state, it's our people, and it's the players. 213 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: And that's definitely something there that probably brought about the 214 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: statement that I made is that over the years, you know, 215 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: when teams are successful, they probably have their own narrative, 216 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: and now it's about us building our narrative. And this 217 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: is just to start. You know, over the years I 218 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: went back and looked at the history of Origin teams 219 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: and through many of the great past players, I actually 220 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: got a lot of information or suppose you call it 221 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: about the success when New South Wales has been successful, 222 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: when they've had their challenges, and the passion and the 223 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: love for what they did was something there that I 224 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: wanted to try and reflect into what we do. 225 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: Sam Burgess that Grand Final when he breaks his cheekbone 226 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: straight off the kickoff with James Graham. 227 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: If I go back, we played against the Bulldogs, So 228 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: this is interesting how he got himself into the psyche 229 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: of being able to do what he did in the 230 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: Grand Final. I think James Graham got him in a 231 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: game round twenty or something or other. He got to 232 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: see him in the ribs and he cracked two rips. 233 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: So at halftime, I'll never forget. Sam was sitting right 234 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: in front of me, and I could see he was 235 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: in complete agony. And I'm sort of looking at Sam. 236 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: I said, God, Sam, hope you get and he looked 237 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: as though he was going to kill me. He sort 238 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: of willed in his seat. Obviously finished my halftime talk, 239 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: and I saw Sam disappear and he ducked off to 240 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: another part of the change room. So I walked over 241 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: and I said, mate, what are you going. 242 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: To do today? 243 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: You're going to go out there and play or you 244 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: sort of soft it up and stay inside. Took a 245 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: punt what I said, and he looked at me and 246 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: I thought he was going to kill me, but his 247 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: eyes just roll back. He walked outside and he played 248 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: one of the best halves. I reckon, I've seen you play, 249 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: and then I fast forward to you know, it's just 250 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: the practice of what he did with his mentality and 251 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: his body, and so when he did his chin, it 252 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: was just like right going to do what he did. 253 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: It's just it's historic. It's incredible. He committed at a 254 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: really high level in four day, you know, and he 255 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: really pushed that group to the next levels the way 256 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: he did things. And there was a there was a 257 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: massive play where they I think it might have been grubby. 258 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: He rolled it through and Sam literally stuck out his 259 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: right hand and he picked up a loose ball. We're 260 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: right on our line. The game could have tipped at 261 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: that moment if we ended up getting a back to 262 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: back set. We were under the pump. So the game 263 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: was on that tipping edge right at that moment in time. 264 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: So there's plays like that you remember as a coach 265 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: where he just the ball stuck in his hand. We 266 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: got it. We ended up getting down the other end. 267 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: Pressure changes, but at that instance Cannbury were climbing. They 268 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 2: were they were coming for us, and I'm thinking this 269 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: is going to be a big moment of the game. 270 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: Cameron Sorelder, very special guest todayre before we get into 271 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 3: the Bulldogs, your playing career, your coaching career. Me and 272 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: Jack saw you up at Mick Fanning's golf day a 273 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: few weekends ago and you were telling us a funny 274 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: story about I don't know if you know this, Matthew, 275 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: about you and Matthew's first ever interaction when you were 276 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: just a just a boy. 277 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was seventeen. Well that's a boy. 278 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: We better get quick to in the story because people don't. 279 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 7: It was actually my first ever time at Northy's. I 280 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 7: snuck in with a fake idea at seventeen, and we didn't. 281 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 6: Have much money to our name. 282 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 7: Then we had a good night at Northy's and run 283 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 7: our way home and had no money for a cab. 284 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 7: So we tried to hitchhike home and me and me mate, 285 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 7: and all of a sudden the cab pulls up and says. 286 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 6: Were you go? And boys jump in. Looked around. It's 287 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 6: Maddie John's with. 288 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 7: Trish, and so Maddie drove us home at seventeen, our 289 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 7: first night at Northey's, and it was awesome, little stoked. 290 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: What was the conversation like in the car? What's what's 291 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: he talking about in that? Because Matthew can dribble when 292 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: he's drunk. 293 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 6: I can't remember pretty sure. 294 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: It's a long time ago. We're talking about twenty three 295 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: years ago. 296 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: Well, I thought it might have had a big It 297 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: sounded like I had a huge impact on me. You 298 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 3: can't even remember what happened in the car. A massive 299 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: successful season for the Doggies this year. How you feeling 300 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: going into the first finals that the Dogs have seen 301 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: in a long time. 302 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 7: We're enjoying every day at the moment, just enjoyed every 303 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 7: day all year. Actually, it's been a really enjoyable year. 304 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 7: We're just we've got a really good crew group of 305 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 7: guys that have come together. You know, we had we 306 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 7: hadn't played together at the start of the year, and 307 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 7: the way they've come together as a group and the 308 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 7: way they've connected has been I've just been real privileged 309 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 7: to be a part of it. 310 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 6: And witness it. 311 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 7: So honestly, we just enjoy going to work every day 312 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 7: and having a laugh and the boys are working hard. 313 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 7: So yeah, it's been successful so far, but we feel 314 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 7: still feel like we've got a long way to go. 315 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: Jesus players have been impressive away from football too, like 316 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: their interview, because in recording this, you just packed from 317 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: New Zealand. He's been the Warriors over there. It's five 318 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: in a row and after every victory at the moment, 319 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: there's celebrations in the streets of Bilnemore. It really is. 320 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: It's awesome. I Mean sometimes you think we're going to 321 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: keep a lid in it, but when you get the 322 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: momentum and those fans deserve it, all the hysteria and 323 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: fanfare and praise. The players have really when they're interviewed, 324 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: remain grounded. How have your manyged that surround? 325 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 7: Oh, we spend a lot of time on that. We 326 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 7: actually talk about this quite a lot, just in embracing 327 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 7: opportunities and atmospheres, but also bringing yourself back to staying 328 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 7: present and being neutral. And we've done a lot of 329 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 7: work on the sort of above the shoulders and mental 330 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 7: skills during the season. And they're really mature, this group, 331 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 7: even though they're young, being able to get hyped up 332 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 7: and then come back to neutral and go again. And 333 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 7: they've really embraced the sort of the scenes we've seen 334 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 7: around Belmore. It's actually inspiring our boys, So why not 335 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 7: embrace it? 336 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: Did it concern you initially when all of a sudden 337 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: met midway through the season the praise really started flowing. 338 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 6: Nah, it didn't. Honestly, it didn't. 339 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 7: Because it's actually a really unique club the Bellmore area 340 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 7: of the community. It's very unique, and it's something this 341 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 7: group's had a real purpose on unite and inspiring that 342 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 7: Bill Army. 343 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 6: And you know. 344 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 7: They're getting a lot of praise lately, but the start 345 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 7: of the year we actually had to show them the 346 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 7: little wins they were having because because there wasn't a 347 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 7: whole lot of belief there and everyone, no one was 348 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 7: praising us. At the start of the year, we lost 349 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 7: our first two games and everyone was saying, here we 350 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 7: go again. So for us in the background, we were 351 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 7: trying to show all the little little wins we were 352 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 7: having and all the good stuff. And now it's it's 353 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 7: actually nice and it's coming from the outside in. But 354 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 7: the boys are very honest and understand what we're doing 355 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 7: well and what we need to improve. 356 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: How do you do that now, because obviously at the 357 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: start you're trying to build the team up, show them 358 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: how how good they can be. Now that they've found 359 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: that groove going into finals, are you know, are you 360 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: showing them a lot of negative stuff? Are you showing 361 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: where they can improve on? 362 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 6: Well, honestly, hasn't changed. 363 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 7: Like every time we go into a video, here's some 364 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 7: things we can do better, and here's some things we're 365 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 7: doing really well, and that's sort of that sort of 366 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 7: style hasn't changed since the first couple of losses at 367 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 7: the start of the year and winning a couple of 368 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 7: the trot. 369 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: Now I'm really conscious of this interview not to lead 370 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: you down the path of praise, you know, because all 371 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: the hard works still ahead of you, blokes. But what 372 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: I really like about the Bulldogs this year is that 373 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: you've got your own unique style. I like in it 374 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: a lot of ways to those Tim Machines Tiger size 375 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: in around two thousand and five, and the fact that 376 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: it's a high IQ, high skilled game of football. My 377 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: question to Siroh is this, when Chicken or the Egg 378 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: did the style of players that you bought? Did it 379 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: dictate the style or did you have in mind how 380 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: you wanted to play and recruit according accordingly. 381 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good question. It's a little bit of both. 382 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 7: I don't think we truly found our style until probably 383 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 7: six weeks ago. I think it was a lot of 384 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 7: try and trial and error for the first probably nineteen rounds. 385 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 7: Some things worked, some didn't. Then we were able to 386 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 7: have the last buy and sort of sit down and 387 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 7: have a look at what was working and what wasn't. 388 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 7: And yeah, I think we found out group of the 389 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 7: last six weeks, but we still feel like there's another 390 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 7: couple of levels in us that we'd like to find 391 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 7: over the next few weeks. But obviously, with the way 392 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 7: we wanted to play, especially around defense, we needed guys 393 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 7: who were fitting mobile and you know, our recruitment strategy 394 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 7: was more around character than anything. It was all about 395 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 7: getting good people who want to work hard, but are 396 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 7: also good connectors of people. It's very hard to put 397 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 7: a group of guys together these days and get guys 398 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 7: to become cohesive. So you need guys that are good 399 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 7: connectors of people, and that's something that we really looked 400 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 7: at in our recruitment. You guys like James Salmon and 401 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 7: Connor Tracy and Josh Karen and Kurt Man and Jake 402 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 7: Turk and Drew Hudgson, they're all really good connectors of 403 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 7: people and that was one of the most important things 404 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 7: we were looking for. But I've got to say the 405 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 7: moment he walked in the doors of Belmore, it was 406 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 7: a different Stephen Crichton and the one I've left at Pendrith. 407 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you knew you were getting a terrific player 408 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: when you signed him, but at the back end of 409 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: the Origin series last year saw and go up and Notch. 410 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: I look and I think you know some of the 411 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: greatest signings of the modern era as far as impact, 412 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: he's definitely one of him. You've got Laser. Wayne Bennett 413 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: bought Lazo there because he was the last piece of 414 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: the puzzle they needed to win where Steve Crichton went there. 415 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: You needed so much from him and he's delivered on 416 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: it all. 417 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's been He's been unreal. He's just a winner, 418 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 7: Like he understands what winning looks like. He turns up 419 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,239 Speaker 7: wanting to win every day and his preparation feeds into that. 420 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 7: And he's just made such an impact. And the scary 421 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 7: thing he's only twenty three, and yeah, he's never going 422 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 7: to stop having that hunger to win, Like I just I. 423 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: Just know it. 424 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: Did you Gways plan on making him captain when you signed. 425 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 6: Him at all? 426 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: No? No. 427 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 7: The guy the Stephen Kricht and I left at Penrith 428 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 7: was he was a good kid and he worked hard. 429 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 7: But there wasn't I wasn't sitting there thinking he's going 430 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 7: to be a captain one day. 431 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: Was there a moment when you were like, Oh, he's 432 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: going to be He's going to be a skipper for 433 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: the year. 434 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, it wasn't. 435 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 7: It wasn't crossing my mind earlier because reading Bird, I 436 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 7: felt like I had done the first four months and 437 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 7: done the hard yards and that were going to grow 438 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 7: from that. 439 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 6: So it wasn't. 440 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 7: His first week Stephen was into an army camp, and 441 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 7: the way he walked into that army camp and just 442 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 7: took hold of the team, We're all sitting there going, 443 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 7: ho oly, shit, this is this is incredible. But then 444 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 7: for the six weeks after that back of training, he 445 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 7: just led people followed him so and the guys around that, 446 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 7: like reading Bird especially, have been so him. 447 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: When he started the season, he was playing left center. 448 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Bronson Cherry has emerged and been phenomenal and a lot 449 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: of times I think a lot of the things Crita 450 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: has done is sort of over shadowt how good Bronson 451 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: has been. But he automatically shifted to the right end 452 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: side of the field. Was that a conversation between or 453 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: who initiated that conversation, was a user that asked him? 454 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: Or did he come forward and sat an old shift? 455 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 7: I think yeah, I think I initiated it, but there's 456 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 7: never been a pushback from Cretter on anything. He again, 457 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 7: he would not care if he was playing right wing, 458 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 7: left wing, center wing, for he doesn't care. He's always 459 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 7: been just about what's best for the team. And he 460 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 7: openly says that, and but he means it. Lot of 461 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 7: people a lot of people say it, but he genuinely 462 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 7: means it. So as soon as I sort of said 463 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 7: Bronson's a legitimate left center and that sort of made 464 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 7: sense and credit was he was all over. 465 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: It was all for He's a phenomenal athlete in the 466 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: sense where the old you know that old coaching saying 467 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: where you say you don't weaken one position just to 468 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: strengthen another, that rule almost completely goes out the window 469 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: with Stephen Crichton, because he he's not someone that can 470 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 3: just play left all right, Like he can not just 471 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: a center, play fullbacks, sometimes plays five to eight winger, center, 472 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: any side of the field, and every single position you 473 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: put him at he does the same job. 474 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 7: Honestly thought he would not even challenge for an RL 475 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 7: level till at least halfway. 476 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 6: Through the year. 477 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: Bronson Cherry, what's he been like after four years out 478 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: of the game. 479 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 6: He's been so good. 480 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 7: Honestly, when we signed him, it was it was a 481 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 7: bit of a project, and honestly thought he would not 482 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 7: even challenge for an RL level till at least halfway 483 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 7: through the year. Really, well, I thought, you haven't played 484 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 7: for four years. It's actually going to be a challenge 485 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 7: to play eighty minutes. Those speed power guys. Look, it's 486 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 7: it's a big it's a big effort to get through 487 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 7: eighty minutes when you're that powerful. And I thought him 488 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 7: been doing the speed and weight for the last four years, 489 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 7: it's going to take him a while to get the major. 490 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 7: And his first couple of training sessions he couldn't even finish. 491 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 7: Oh really, Yeah, he had a couple of issues there 492 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 7: at the start, and we're doing some some laps one 493 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 7: day and he was so far behind. Yeah, I was 494 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 7: into him a little bit, and you're sure he still 495 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 7: want to do this, and he's going, I want to 496 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 7: do this, like he was so adamant. He wanted to 497 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 7: keep he was here and he meant business. But he 498 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 7: just got better and better and better every day and 499 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 7: every week to the point where we nearly he nearly 500 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 7: forced us to pick him in round one, but I 501 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 7: just wanted to see a few more games out of him, 502 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 7: and I think it was round five he got his 503 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 7: opportunity and he hasn't looked back. And again, he's such 504 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 7: a good character. He's worked so hard and he just 505 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 7: continues to want to get better every day. 506 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: He's such a multi dimensional play in the fact that 507 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: he's terrific finisher and give him the ball early. He 508 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: hit a gap for you, but made his working yard. 509 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 6: He's tough stuff he's doing that's impressied me. 510 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 7: Like you saw the highlight stuff from him early in 511 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 7: his career and what he could do. But the yardist 512 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 7: carries the defense, the effort on kickchase, like that's all 513 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 7: the stuff he's doing really well that we're valuing. 514 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: And so I one asked you to comment on this. 515 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: I'll talk to Cooper on it. But it was really 516 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: funny when the State of Origin stuff was going on, 517 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: I forget what was There was an injury cloud over 518 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: one of our centers. Someone said, who would you put in? 519 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: I said I too, I'd be tempted to put in 520 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: tempted to put in Bronze and Cherry. It's his first 521 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: game back. But you talk about a bloke that's built 522 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: to play that standard from that left, it's him. 523 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 6: One of the great. 524 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, you coached Jack as well. 525 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: We didn't even touch on that. 526 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: And Coop joined the Italian camp. I think, took the blazer, 527 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: took the guernsey and then basically quit the team. 528 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: No no, I did one training session and the week 529 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: before I was in talks with I was in talks 530 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 3: with clubs. Actually nearly went to the Bulldogs with zero 531 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 3: and then he stopped returning to my phone. 532 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: Jude, you missed out there, Sarah, you would. 533 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: Have won the preseason. That's one hundred grand you'll never 534 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: get to go. 535 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: But oh piteous Siro, you're really missed out of that one. 536 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 3: I mean it would have been on the nice to 537 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: be on the end with kick out rather than on 538 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: the receiving end of him running over the top of me. 539 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 3: But what I wanted to get to was great year. 540 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: It's exciting going to the finals for the Bulldogs. Good to 541 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: see bellmore in the community getting right behind it. They're 542 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: probably everyone's really excited talking about the Bulldogs at the moment. 543 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 3: They're selling out games. So we love you and we're 544 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: proud of you. 545 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: He didn't know where we're going to finish that, did you? 546 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: You're like a drunk trying to find the du way 547 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: in the dark. 548 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: Anyway, very special guests, we're going to interview today one 549 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: of your best friends. 550 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: Stop you right there. He's not a friend. 551 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 6: Oh what is he? 552 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: His brother? 553 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 6: Is it Joey? I thought it was Brian Carney. 554 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: Brian Carney? 555 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 3: Oh okay, Brian Carney for those who don't know, are 556 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: Irish great played rugby union, played for the Newcastle Knights 557 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 3: as well and Wigan Worri is with you now. He's 558 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: in commentary over there at Super League. Question for you, 559 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: how long your own Brian? And did you two click 560 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 3: straight away because you have a very great sense of 561 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: humor together. 562 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: I met Brian when I when we as a family 563 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: flew to the North of England for me to play 564 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: with Wigan. I met Brian. That was in December. I 565 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: met Brian December of two thousand and we become great 566 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: mates immediately. It's hard to you know, it's one of 567 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: those things when you meet people in your life and 568 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: you just don't know whether it's chemistry or exactly what 569 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: it is, but you just hit it off immediately. It's 570 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: like you known each other for ages. What's interesting is 571 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: Brian's heritage is from Cork and Island and my heritage 572 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: is from Cork and Island. So it makes you wonder 573 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: whether there is a little bit of like ancestry ancestry, 574 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: just that sort of like connection connection common connection through genetics. 575 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, it's a good discussion. I mean 576 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 3: it's definitely a discussion that we can have off. 577 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: I think it's one that to be definitely more interesting 578 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: off air than one. 579 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, Na, you know what, now they think about it, 580 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: let's not even do it off air. 581 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: Now. Brian's going to join us today on a special 582 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: new kind of technology that's available in Europe. 583 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 6: What is it? 584 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: It is the now you watch this, I'm going to 585 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: look over to Jake, it's the Starlink satellite that Elong 586 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: Mask Elon Musk has created. He is using that. So 587 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: if something happens and the sound goes out or something 588 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: like that, don't don't talk to us about it. Don't 589 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: write a letter to Jack. Just get in touch with 590 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: Eloon Mask, sell Tesla sh good call. Let's do it, 591 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: Brian Carney, Ladies and Gentlemen's gentleman away from elon Muskers 592 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: Star Satellite. 593 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: Yes, and if you haven't already followed the subscribe on 594 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: Spotify and podcast, why didn't you do that? No, ladies 595 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 3: and gentlemen. Brian Carney, Brian Carney, mate, welcome to the podcast. 596 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: Good to see you again. 597 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 4: It's a real thrill. 598 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: He's only been sitting there for three hours waiting. 599 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, is a well organized. 600 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: We're in Budapest and you boys, me and me and 601 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: Brian have been on the soup and remember all the 602 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: swat police started moving into the city center of Budapest 603 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: going what the hell? 604 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 8: You know? 605 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 6: Right? 606 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: Police? The whole box and Dice were what's going on here? 607 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: And they said Victor Rawburan and his family have gone 608 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: to the opera and all these protesters have turned up 609 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: for people who don't know who he is. You know, 610 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: he's borderline dictator, you know, shutting down a lot of 611 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: the private businesses and media organizations and his totalitarian anyway, 612 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: very unpopular, and you know, it was feeling that he 613 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: was trying to scale back to basically to communist days. 614 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: So everyone's they're giving him a bit of a strive here, 615 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: and me and Brian got a little bit vocal. 616 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: And we're like yeah, yeah, yeah. 617 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Anyway, next minute they grab us and Hungarian police and 618 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: they say what's your names? And Brian led off, Brian 619 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: went Bulldog Richie and I went Buzz Rothfield. That's true, 620 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: God forbid, God for bid Buzz or Richie ego. 621 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 6: Trying to go to. 622 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: Hungary would be to see them to in course. 623 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: It just come and grab me. 624 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: And yeah, Joey was because compliment you could pay Joey 625 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 4: is this Cooper. It's probably a highlight of my career 626 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: to say I got to play with Andrew Johnson. Now 627 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 4: that's I won't be alone on that. And I think 628 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 4: I think he was that good and will go down 629 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 4: in the annals as as that much of a great player. 630 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 4: Human beings different, No, no, just yeah, just an absolute 631 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: thrill to have been on the field. Sometimes I was going, 632 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm on the same fields in Yeah, 633 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: because he was my teammate. 634 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, time you pranked a player manager and personating to 635 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: be someone else. 636 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: Guy who you've used to play with, Maddie, who was 637 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 4: who would be considered a club legend at your at 638 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 4: your club, we won't say which club that is. He 639 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 4: could have been Wiggan Cronola or Newcastle, but it was 640 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: the latter. He had gone into player management. And the 641 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 4: boys were telling me, they said, this fellow as hungry 642 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 4: as anything. You'll take anybody. I said, what I rang 643 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 4: and pretending to be a player for from England who 644 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 4: was keen to come over to play in the NRL. 645 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 4: So I had him on a hook straight away. I said, listening, 646 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: I'm keen to get out of here, but I need 647 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 4: to get out of here quickly. And he says, why 648 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 4: the rush? This is mid season. I said, oh, listen, 649 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: I went out last night and I got into a 650 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 4: bit of a scuffle. I ended up. I ended up 651 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 4: stabbing a bloke in the arm and he was an 652 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 4: Olympic swimmer and he's lost his arm, and I'll never 653 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 4: forget him saying what he's lost his arm, he's lost 654 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: a wing. Must have been a hell of a stink. 655 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: And I said, well, I didn't even know I had 656 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 4: the knife and I tripped and the knife fell into 657 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 4: his arm and he's lost his arm. So I've got 658 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 4: to get out of here quickly. And he said, well, 659 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 4: we could probably find a spot for you, but we'll 660 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 4: just need to manage. We'll need to manage the pr around. 661 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: I said, well, listen, there's good news as well, he said. 662 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 4: I said, I'm a goal kicker. I'm kicking at sixty 663 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 4: two percent of the moment and he went, okay, well 664 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 4: that's good. He said. Having a goal kick into your 665 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: bow is an extra which extra string, which. 666 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: Is sixty is quite average. That is very average. 667 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: Just for people. 668 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 4: You'd be sacked, you'd have the license taken off you. 669 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: We still laugh about it, Mike Gidley and I when 670 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: we do it. Because he was asking for the details. 671 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: He says, what's your email address and I'll send over 672 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: a contract and I said, it's the player's name, and 673 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 4: then I went and then it's like the letter ah 674 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 4: with a circle going around the letter are, but the 675 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: circle doesn't go the whole way around the letter A, 676 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: and it sort of just comes up sure, and he goes, 677 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: that's commonly referred to as at. We ended up emailing 678 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: him back and forth. We went up to play the 679 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 4: Cowboys once and we were sitting in this one. I 680 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 4: was at Newcastle this and we're in the airport of 681 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 4: Brisbane and I flicked open the phone and I was 682 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: showing the boys, showing the email correspondence with this book. 683 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 4: It's no longer a player agent. He'll kill me if 684 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 4: you ever. 685 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 6: Hear this, so he never found out. 686 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: It was you no, no, no, you want to get 687 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 4: on the wrong side of butsy. 688 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: Ty out of field. 689 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: We were introduced to this guy, Mick Jenkins used to 690 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: be at Newcastle Knights and he's come over and this 691 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 4: was maybe the most different human I've ever come across. 692 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: The first day comes in, he's got the shaven head. 693 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 4: Now I think it's all in the fast, all in rage. 694 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: Now he's got the size of the head shaved. He's 695 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: got the mohawk down the middle, and he's got tattoos. 696 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 4: One is the target sign and the others a dragon 697 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 4: either side of his head. Took his rugby league really seriously, 698 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 4: but he was he was a left field individual. Yeah. 699 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: The one where he lived in Workington, Him and Evan 700 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 1: Cochran lived together. And of course the price of steak 701 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: and meat in England is quite expensive, so Jenkin come 702 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: up with the scheme. Then he went to a farmer 703 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: and bought a cow off him and got the farm 704 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: at the slaughter the cow and cut all the meat 705 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: up and then they put it all in the freezer. 706 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: But then they had to go down to London and 707 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: play a game. They're down there for three days and 708 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: meanwhile there was a storm that hit and all the 709 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: power there was a power at it. 710 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 4: They said. 711 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: The moment walked into the house, it was just like right, 712 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: it was like it was death. 713 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 4: True true story this. I was driving with Jenko through 714 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 4: a hole and he's driving in his car and he 715 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: jams on the brakes and I go what And he 716 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 4: goes slipping into reverse, goes back outside this terraced house. 717 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 4: Front this terrace house, somebody looks like they're doing some 718 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 4: landscaping sort. There's all these tools lined up against the 719 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 4: wall and all that. And Jenko goes out and he 720 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 4: whips the tools and shoves them in the back of 721 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 4: his car. And I said, what do you do? And 722 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 4: I said, you can't pinch them. He goes, no. You 723 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 4: gotta understand people leave stuff outside their house if you want, 724 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 4: if they want you to take it away, is that yeah? 725 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 8: Yes? 726 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Ready through to one Gordon tell us, Wow, welcome 727 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: to the studio, Thank Cooper. 728 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 8: How are you going? 729 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: Nervous? Right? 730 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 3: You use. 731 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: As opposed they're not sitting with Ready and Buzz and 732 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: of course Bulldog, Bulldog. 733 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: Good have you. Thanks for coming over as well for 734 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: those short notice. Mate, you really saved our ass this week. 735 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 8: Didn't You couldn't get a guest. 736 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: No, we just didn't. We just didn't get We just 737 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: didn't think ahead enough. 738 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: I threw a few up. I'm not going to mention 739 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: who the names? Where the boys were? No, no, no. 740 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: Buzz Buzz was busy. 741 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, but obviously watch watch all your podcasts and it 742 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 8: was good. 743 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: Do you watch it? Yeah? 744 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 8: I watch it comes across my feed, and then I 745 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 8: go and I get. 746 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: Into it that way, you delve into it like I'm not. 747 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 8: I don't have the podcast up, but then I get 748 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 8: to get into it. And that kind of. 749 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: Stuff doesn't really sound like you do actually do because. 750 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 8: They always have a link. So I know that your 751 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 8: brother's the executive producer, and I know that he would 752 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 8: be across all. 753 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: That he is Jack is and he's listening, he's in 754 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: the room. 755 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 8: I was jealous of Nathan high March. 756 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: FLETCHENHEINDI would you because you blakes play together, would you 757 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: consider yourself mates. 758 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 8: With those blakes? I was jealous of Nathan high March 759 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 8: because fucking Wendell and the boys tease me that he 760 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 8: was a much better player. So I used to judge 761 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 8: myself on Heinde, and I thought Fletch, like there some 762 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 8: back rollers that just had so much like he. He 763 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 8: could beat you with footwork. He was big. He throw 764 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 8: the cutout ball and he was just such a big 765 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 8: ball playing. But he could go through the middle of 766 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 8: the rock and like you'd fly out and hit Webby. 767 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 8: So made you see the footage right, so there's no 768 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 8: backwards like there's no reverse in either of them, right, 769 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 8: And I reckon Nathan. I feel a bit sorry for 770 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 8: him because Paramatta had lack of front rollers. Right, he was. 771 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 8: He was an unbelievable edge player, sure, and then they 772 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 8: turned him into a thirty tackle twenty and it's and 773 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 8: it's rubbish because he was way better than that. 774 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: It's boys. When he first came in, well, heind he 775 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: was a really athletic, fast moving each back rower. And 776 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: then they went and he had a great murder. But 777 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: then they suddenly they said right into the middle and 778 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: took over. 779 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 8: Ye like a bit Bradley Clyde. Right, So Bradley Clyde 780 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 8: when they had Lomax and those guys, and he was 781 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 8: on an edge. He was playing like a center, a 782 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 8: back rower and can float in and play front. 783 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 6: Right. 784 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 8: As soon as they got rid of those, Bradley Clyde 785 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 8: become the front row of the lock. Yeah, and then 786 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 8: that's what Nathan probably mirrored. 787 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: Gartris and George under a really technical case by Brian Smith. 788 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: That must have been difficult at first. 789 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 8: It was because you just doubted everything that you've that 790 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 8: you knew. Yeah, I mean so like then growing up 791 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 8: in Towns, I was a bit sort of tall and skinny, 792 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 8: So I was playing Santa playing five A. I went 793 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 8: from six to eight. 794 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 6: That was it. 795 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 8: And and I like running and passing and kicking and going 796 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 8: to Saint George and the structure that you had to 797 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 8: learn under Brian Smith, and like the game plans, like 798 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 8: we get to the dress room before the game, and 799 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 8: there'd be two pages that I'd have to know that 800 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 8: Robbie Kerns is the right hand carry, loves a bump, 801 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 8: third tackle. You know, every single play would have two 802 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 8: or three things what foot you stepped on, what you passed, 803 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 8: and what you held the ball and whatever. And then 804 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 8: he'd sort of quizer before some games. So could you 805 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 8: imagine how nervous I was. But it was great to 806 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 8: learn the structure and play and how to break sides down. 807 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 8: And then the first time I go into the Broncos 808 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 8: dressing room, I trained the whole preseason. Basically, Wayne didn't 809 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 8: say too much to me. Get to the game and 810 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 8: it's twenty minutes before he hasn't really spoken to me 811 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 8: all week, and I'm like, so, I'm more nervous than 812 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 8: what I was in the Brian Smith dressing room. I said, he, Wayne, 813 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 8: what do you want me to do today? What like, 814 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 8: is there something that you want me to do? He 815 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 8: play footy? You fuck with? 816 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 6: So I'm confused. 817 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 8: From Brian Smith knowing every song player just sit there 818 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 8: to that right and then and then so like the 819 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 8: totally different. I would never change my career ever. I 820 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 8: would go and be coached by Brian Smith every day 821 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 8: of the week to learn. And then Wayne is more 822 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 8: working on you mentally that you won't let yourself down. 823 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 3: So once you had that football education, then going to 824 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 3: the Wayne. 825 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 8: Oh, Wayne, Wayne's Wayne's Wayne's just making sure that you 826 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 8: won't let yourself down and your teammate. 827 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: People of enjoy a couple of our best of twenty 828 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: twenty four and don't forget you can. You can follow 829 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: us on the Apple and Spotify apps