1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: You can listen to the Front on your smart speaker 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: every morning to hear the latest episode. Just say play 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: the news from the Australian. From the Australian, here's what's 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: on the Front. I'm Claire Harvey. It's Wednesday, June twenty 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: sixth back renewables all prepare to be plunged into darkness. 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: That's the warning to regional communities which could face blackouts 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: when coal exits the electricity grid in the late twenty thirties, 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: according to a new roadmap from the Australian Energy Market Operator. 9 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: A fresh drama for the Labor government, with one of 10 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: its own senators crossing the floor for the first time 11 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: in decades to vote against Labor. Senator Fatima Payman defied 12 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: party leadership on immediate recognition of Palestinian statehood. Historically, members 13 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: who cross the floor have been expelled from the party, 14 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: but it's looking like payment we'll keep her job. You 15 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: can read Dennis Shanahan's expert analysis right now at the 16 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Australian dot com. Dot Wikileg's founder Julian Assange is on 17 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: his way to Australia after pleading guilty to an espionage 18 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: charge in order to get out of jail. Today we 19 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: go back to the beginning, the allegations of rape that 20 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: sent Assange on the rump, and how this hacker recast 21 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: himself as a crusader for freedom. Before we begin, this 22 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: episode contains allegations of sexual assault. Back in twenty ten, 23 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: Assange was a figure of international intrigue, the swashbuckling hacker 24 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: turned publisher whose website WikiLeaks was dumping thousands of documents 25 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: into the public domain, highly damaging secret military files that 26 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: exposed the inner workings of America's war in Afghanistan. And 27 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: then Assange was accused of rape while he was working 28 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: in Sweden. Two young Swedish women who had met him 29 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: in wikileak circles accused Assange of having sex with them 30 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: without using a condom without their consent. One was Anna Ardin. 31 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: She had hosted Assange in her home and the pair 32 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: had sex in which she said Assange deliberately ripped a 33 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: condom she'd asked him to wear and was violent towards 34 00:02:52,400 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: her during sex. Assange denied both those allegations. Julian Sane 35 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: men to Scoff, but I don't have a shawning. In 36 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: this interview with Swedish paper Zvenska. Doug Bladette Ardin, who's 37 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: written a book about her allegations, said this, we've used 38 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: a voice actor to bring you the translation of her words. 39 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: I'm happy to forgive Julian a sane, but I can't 40 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: create this reconciliation myself. I did my best to get 41 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: this thing tried in court, but he stayed away. It 42 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: affected my life immensely. 43 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: In the beginning. 44 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: I had to quit my job, I had to move 45 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: out of my apartment. I was even hidden abroad for 46 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: a period. I also got a lot of support and 47 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: it's helped me move on and I think I've become 48 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: a stronger person in this process. 49 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: Another woman known only as Miss W had consensual sex 50 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: with Assane using a condom, but said she had awoken 51 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: the following morning to find him having sex with her again, 52 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: this time without the condom she'd asked him to use. 53 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: This action removing a condom is now known as stealthing, 54 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: and over the past decade has been formally criminalized throughout 55 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: Australia and much of the western world. In Queensland, this 56 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: offense carries a maximum sentence of life in prison. Assange 57 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: has always denied wrongdoing and said his contact with the 58 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: women was consensual. He was questioned by local police, but 59 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: he left Sweden for the UK before he could be charged. 60 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: Swedish authorities formally arrested him in absentia in September twenty ten. 61 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: Swedish courts issued a European arrest warrant and the international 62 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: policing agency INTERPOL issued a Red Notice, a note to 63 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: police around the world indicating a person is wanted for extradition. Assange, 64 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: by now in London, was arrested by London's Metropolitan Police 65 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: and remanded in custody, whereupon numerous supporters, including Jemima Kahn, 66 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: helped him post hundreds of thousands of dollars in bail. 67 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: British courts issued an extradition warrant, rejecting Assange's arguments the 68 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: Swedish prosecution was politically motivated. Assange appealed to Britain's High Court. 69 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: His lawyers argued the women had consented to sex, and 70 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: that his conduct might have been unpleasant, but if committed 71 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: in London, would not have been a crime. His lawyer, 72 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: ben Emerson Casey said Assange may have seemed disreputable discourteous, 73 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: disturbing or even pushing towards the boundaries of what they 74 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: were comfortable with. But he was not a criminal. He's 75 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: a voice actor. With ben Emerson Casey's words as spoken 76 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: in court. He's speaking about the second woman who says 77 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: she awoke to find Assange having sex with her without 78 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: a condom. 79 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: She may not have enjoyed the experience, but she clearly 80 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: consented to it. 81 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: The High Court rejected Assange's arguments, ruling Swedish authorities could 82 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: order his return to Sweden. Assange was defiant. 83 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: I have not been charged with any crime in any country. 84 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 4: No doubt there will be many attempts made to try 85 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: and spin these proceedings as they occur today, but they 86 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: are merely technical. 87 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: While all this was going on, WikiLeaks continued. In twenty eleven, 88 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: the Walkley Foundation in Australia gave Wikiliks and Assange an 89 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: award for an Outstanding Contribution to Journalism after they published 90 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: a video showing American forces killing civilians and to Reutter's 91 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: journalists in Baghdad that sparked a fierce debate. Was this 92 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: accused rapist and self proclaimed crusader actually the journalist at all. 93 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: James Madden is the Australian's Media editor. 94 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 5: I think it's cut and dried. Actually, Claire, I do 95 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 5: not believe what wikiliks does can be considered journalism, for 96 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 5: the simple fact that journalists have an obligation to the 97 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 5: readers and the public to present information in its relevant context. 98 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 5: That is a responsibility that falls upon the shoulders of 99 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 5: journalists and media companies and news outlets, and Wikilik's mo 100 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 5: has today simply been obtaining documents and publishing them trives 101 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 5: of documents at a time, without sifting through these documents 102 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 5: to present the information within in journalism form. 103 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: Wikiliks prided itself on presenting entire cases of material without 104 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: editing or redaction. That meant the most sensitive diplomatic communications 105 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: were suddenly out in the open, including the names of 106 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: human rights leaders, dissidents, spies, informants and others who were 107 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: secretly dealing with the US in places like Iraq. In 108 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: twenty ten, human rights organizations including Amnesty International begged WikiLeaks 109 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: to redact the names of Afghans who were working with 110 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: the Americans after the Taliban said it was going through 111 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: the documents on WikiLeaks to identify and eliminate collaborators. 112 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 5: That information or that fact. Claire doesn't always garner a 113 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 5: lot of publicity when defenders of Assange are talking about 114 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 5: the merits of his and Wikiliks journalism, But the truth 115 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 5: is professional journalists take extraordinary steps to defend the privacy 116 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 5: and by extension, the safety of people about whom they're writing, 117 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 5: and a lot of consideration goes into presenting information in 118 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 5: a responsible way. 119 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: Then Assange went into hiding, and unlike most people accused 120 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: of being sex offenders, he was suddenly hailed as a hero. 121 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: Assange claimed he was afraid that the Swedish judicial process 122 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: could end in him being extradited to the United States 123 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: over all those classified US documents. In twenty twelve, he 124 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: sought asylum in the London embassy of Ecuador, a South 125 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: American republic, and that's where he stayed for seven years 126 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: in the embassy, refusing to emerge in case he was 127 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: arrested and sent back to Sweden to face the rape charges. 128 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, after much legal back and forth, Sweden 129 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: dropped the charges, saying too much time had expired. Although 130 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: the women have never recanted their claims, Assange was triumphant. 131 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: Seven years without charge. Why my children grew up without them? 132 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: That is not something that I can forgive. 133 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah children. It later emerged Assigne had formed a romance 134 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: with a Swedish Spanish woman, Stella Morris, and fathered two 135 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: kids while inside the embassy. 136 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 6: He's not a criminal, he's not a dangerous person. He's 137 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 6: a gentle intellectual, a center and a journalist. And those 138 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 6: people are not the people who belong in prison. 139 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: In April twenty nineteen, the Ecuadorians revoked his asylum. They 140 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: said Assanch had been a terrible HouseGuest, abusing staff, hacking 141 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: into their computer systems, meddling in Ecuador's relationships with other countries, 142 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: and even leaving the feces of his cat and himself 143 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: on the floors and walls of the embassy. The Metropolitan 144 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: Police stormed the embassy and dragged Assange out, a bizarre 145 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: scene on the quiet streets of London. As Assian shouted 146 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: the UK must resist pressure to extradite him, Scotland Yard 147 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: arrested him for failing to appear in court over the 148 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: rape allegation. Until now, the US had not moved on 149 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: Assange at all, but in twenty nineteen, once he was 150 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: out of the embassy. The Americans finally revealed they did 151 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: want him. He'd been indicted by a US grand jury 152 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: for conspiracy to commit computer intrusion. Coming up, how Julian 153 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: Assange recast himself as not an accused rapist but a 154 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: freedom fighter. At the Australian dot Com dot a U 155 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: right now, we've got a range of wildly differing opinions 156 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: about Assange. You can check out our contest of ideas 157 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: and make up your own mind by joining ours subscribers 158 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: at the Australian dot com dot a U. We'll be 159 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: back after this break. Bellmarsh is the maximum security prison 160 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: where Julian Assange has been for the past nineteen hundred 161 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: and one days, just over five years. His family and 162 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: advocates have complained Tossange's mental and physical health were under 163 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: desperate strain, so why was he in jail? Initially, he 164 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: was sentenced to fifty weeks for breaching bail over the 165 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: Swedish rape allegations. British prosecutors said he'd illegally entered the 166 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: embassy to avoid extradition to Sweden. Assange released a statement 167 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: apologizing for his conduct. We've used a voice actor. 168 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: I apologize unreservedly to those who consider that I have 169 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: disrespected them by the way I have pursued my case. 170 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: This is not what I wanted or intended. In early 171 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, after about a month behind bars, Assiange was 172 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: charged with an additional seventeen counts under the United States 173 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: Espionage Act relating to hundreds of thousands of leaked classified 174 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: US documents covering the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. And 175 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: in twenty. 176 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: Twenty, Julian Assange has been a denied bill by a 177 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: judge at a London court. The Wikileagu's founder was hoping 178 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: to leave prison two days after the same judge rejected 179 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: a request for extradition to the United States. 180 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: The judge that Assange couldn't be trusted to show up 181 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: in court if he was given bail, and ordered him 182 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: to remain in Belmarsh while the extradition proceedings played out. Then, 183 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: in December twenty twenty one, another twist. 184 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: Julian Assanji is a step closer to being extradited to America. 185 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: After the US government one it's bid to overturn a 186 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: UK court decision. 187 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: Assange appealed to the UK Supreme Court and failed. In 188 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: April twenty two, the US got its wish. A British 189 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: court has issued an order to extradite Wiki Leagues founder 190 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: Julian Assange to the United States. If convicted on all charges, 191 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: Assange faced up to one hundred and seventy five years 192 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: in an American prison. Just a month ago, another British 193 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: court granted Assange one last chance to appeal the extradition order, 194 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: and then on Sunday a deal was announced. Assange agreed 195 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: to plead guilty to one charge of espionage, conspiring to 196 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: unlawfully obtain and disseminate classified national defense information. He was 197 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: released from Bellmarsh and bordered a plane to Saipan in 198 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: the Northern Mariana Islands, a US Pacific territory, where a 199 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: judge will handle the formalities. That was also part of 200 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: the negotiation to avoid Assange setting foot on the US mainland. 201 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: The Americans have agreed to drop eighteen espionage charges against 202 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: Assange and he'll be sentenced to sixty two months in prison, 203 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: but his time already served in Belmarsh will be counted. 204 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: It's expected that after sentencing, he'll leave the Marianas for Australia. 205 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: His homeland. The Albanesi government, which is campaigned for his release, 206 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: will welcome Massange. In the US, the Biden administration, which 207 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: continued Donald Trump's pursuit of Massange, will be relieved to 208 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: see the last of him. And the big question what 209 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: now for the hacker turned activist who says he's only 210 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: ever sought to expose the truth. Thanks for joining us 211 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,359 Speaker 1: on the front. You can check out all our journalism 212 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: right now at the Australian dot com dot a U