1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: This is the Fitsy and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: You're going over to New York? Now are you going 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: over next week? We're going over very quick to the 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: United Nations. This is in New York for thirty six months. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: Huge press release. 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what it's like when the United Nations 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: call fits happens each week. I get a call and 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that number and they go bloody United Nations. 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: They're on the phone again. No, this is a special 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: one and this should be a real moment of national pride. 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: This has all to do with thirty six months and 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister's stance and the Commonwealth saying to big 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: Tech that we're going to put Australian families first. We're 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: going to put Australian teenagers and the well being of 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: them first. So this is the new social media laws 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: which will come into action and into play on the tenth. 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: Of December this year. But see, this is the thing. 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: It's not just Australia. 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: You're going to be meeting with world leaders and policymakers 20 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: to see if they would do something similar in their countries. 21 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they called as well and said we need you there. No, 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: the idea that we're there is We're obviously played a 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: part in making sure that the message was heard, and 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: we represent one hundred and fifty thousand people that sign 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: the petition, myself and Rob Galuzzo from Finch and it 26 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: should be a moment of pride. You know, the Prime 27 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: Minister has made a really brave decision to take on 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: big tech is a big thing. 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: And it's our boy going to be there. 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: Yes, he's going to be there. So the event will 31 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: take place at the United Nations. There's world leaders that 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: are invited to be part of it and also people 33 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: of influence to let them know. And I think this 34 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: is the important part that you know what, you can 35 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: put your foot down and you can put the teenagers first. 36 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: We know that it is having a devastating effect on 37 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: our teenagers. That's the big thing. Fits And we've got 38 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand mums and dads that assigned 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: the petition who have said this is the this is 40 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: a major concern in our household right now and we 41 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: need to change things. 42 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So the biggest question that everyone's saying is December ten, 43 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: it kicks in. So I've got a twelve year old 44 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: at home who wants to get on Snapchat. So from 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: December tenth, how is this going to roll out? So 46 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: how is he going to get a Snapchat account or 47 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: can he? 48 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: And what are you going to put into place on 49 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: that date? Whip. 50 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: Well, look, there's nothing that is a silver baller in 51 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: this situation. The law needs to change and then the 52 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: behavior needs to change. That's the important things thing. There's 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: three ways you could do it. Those fits. One is 54 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: some sort of ID Now the government has come out 55 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: and said that they will not ask for any further 56 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: identification because people are obviously nervous about putting any further 57 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: details into these platforms, so they've said that's not what 58 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: it's going to do. The other one is the estimate 59 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: of your age. That's the second place. So the social 60 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: media platforms have got the technology based on your appearance 61 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: to narrow it down within the year of your age. 62 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: TikTok proved this over a year ago and they identified 63 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: seventy million people that were underage on their platform. Million 64 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: of them were in Australia. The next one is your 65 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: behavior online. So if you're sixty years old and you're 66 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: on Instagram, well there's a good chance you're going to 67 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: be chatting to somebody or your interests might be caravanning 68 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: around Australia. 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: Well you're not playing roadblocks. I know you're not. 70 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: So you're if you're spending more time looking at K 71 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: pop demon hunter content, well there's a good chance you're 72 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: going to be a younger plus. So if you can 73 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: combine the look technology, your appearance and your behavior, that 74 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: helps narrow it down. So for somebody, let's say Lenny's 75 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: on there and he's underage, if he's identified by the platform, 76 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: and that's the expectation for the government, if he's identified 77 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: on the tenth of December to be underaged, then his 78 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: account will be closed. 79 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: See the other what we need to talk about though, 80 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: it's for any parent out there. 81 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: It's not just about the ID and all this kind 82 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: of stuff. 83 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: I know that there's a lot of people saying it 84 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: is because if kids want to get. 85 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: On there, they'll find a way to do it. The 86 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: big thing is for all parents out there is. 87 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: That you can now say to your child it's I'm sorry, 88 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: but it's just now illegal. You've got to be sixteen 89 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: before you can get a social media again, and you 90 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: need to. 91 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: Put yeah, you need to pull back the lens two 92 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: fits and go. This is not the absolute solution here, 93 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what. By the time Ted is thirteen, 94 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: by the time my five year old Francesca is thirteen, 95 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: this will be the new behavior. So we have to 96 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: look beyond what the tenth of December will be. But 97 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: I hope, I do you proud In New York Man, 98 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: it's not too late to get. 99 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: Out of going over to see Sabrina carp. 100 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: I want the tickets, which is great news. Itit's in 101 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast walk great 102 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: shows like this. Download the Nova Player by the App 103 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Store or Google playing the Nova Player