1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Approche production. 2 00:00:11,441 --> 00:00:14,601 Speaker 2: This is another bonus episode of We Will Always Have 3 00:00:14,681 --> 00:00:17,321 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. It's basically just to tide you over 4 00:00:17,361 --> 00:00:22,081 Speaker 2: before the main course, which is longer ramblings. And sometimes 5 00:00:22,121 --> 00:00:25,401 Speaker 2: we pepper it in with some screaming and shouting because 6 00:00:25,721 --> 00:00:28,241 Speaker 2: I've got us into some sort of I don't know, 7 00:00:28,281 --> 00:00:29,761 Speaker 2: activity that our bodies can't handle. 8 00:00:29,841 --> 00:00:30,801 Speaker 1: Look what I'm trying to say is. 9 00:00:30,761 --> 00:00:33,601 Speaker 2: We're old if you haven't learnt that by now, and 10 00:00:33,881 --> 00:00:39,081 Speaker 2: we love to ramble, so please enjoy. 11 00:00:40,281 --> 00:00:45,321 Speaker 3: What's some things we're too old to now? Like you know, 12 00:00:45,441 --> 00:00:48,521 Speaker 3: years ago, you'd be up till midnight or not even 13 00:00:48,561 --> 00:00:50,761 Speaker 3: four am, and you'd go to work the next day. 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,281 Speaker 3: Could you imagine yourself doing that now? 15 00:00:53,721 --> 00:00:54,481 Speaker 1: Going clubbing? 16 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:54,961 Speaker 4: Yeah? 17 00:00:55,081 --> 00:00:58,041 Speaker 1: Could you imagine when that was never something I did? 18 00:00:58,081 --> 00:01:01,601 Speaker 1: You're a party animal. I wasn't back in the days. 19 00:01:01,601 --> 00:01:02,641 Speaker 1: Did you go to Well? 20 00:01:02,641 --> 00:01:06,161 Speaker 3: When I came to Australia, I hit Oxford Street and 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: there used to be like DCMS and the Taxi Club. 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,401 Speaker 1: I loved all of it. 23 00:01:11,481 --> 00:01:14,161 Speaker 3: I was what you would call a fair hag, and 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,001 Speaker 3: I hate that terminology, but I was absolutely that. 25 00:01:18,041 --> 00:01:18,681 Speaker 1: I loved it. 26 00:01:18,801 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: I lived with a drag queen for. 27 00:01:20,121 --> 00:01:23,041 Speaker 1: A couple of years, did you Yeah, do you know them? No? 28 00:01:23,041 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, yeah, so that was great fun. 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,601 Speaker 3: And we used to did you catch up with him soon? 30 00:01:27,721 --> 00:01:28,081 Speaker 1: No? No. 31 00:01:28,161 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: He used to do my makeup and he would take 32 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,961 Speaker 3: him two hours and full dream yeah, full drag. You 33 00:01:32,961 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: wouldn't even recognize me. 34 00:01:35,441 --> 00:01:38,961 Speaker 1: Do your photos? Na, No, But we would go up 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: to the club. 36 00:01:40,441 --> 00:01:43,561 Speaker 3: I was about nineteen eighteen nineteen. And how long were 37 00:01:43,601 --> 00:01:47,641 Speaker 3: you out for till I met you know, the Ricardo? No? 38 00:01:47,801 --> 00:01:48,801 Speaker 1: Like how late? 39 00:01:49,041 --> 00:01:49,841 Speaker 3: Oh at night? 40 00:01:50,121 --> 00:01:52,121 Speaker 1: Oh, I would rock up to work. 41 00:01:53,361 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: My shift started at seven am. 42 00:01:55,281 --> 00:01:56,881 Speaker 4: When you go straight from there, I would be. 43 00:01:56,921 --> 00:02:00,921 Speaker 3: Rocking up on the bus, wiping my makeup off and 44 00:02:00,961 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: putting my uniform on and walking in morning everyone how everyone, and. 45 00:02:05,761 --> 00:02:09,161 Speaker 1: I would just do that. I would be by the 46 00:02:09,281 --> 00:02:09,841 Speaker 1: end of the day. 47 00:02:10,441 --> 00:02:12,241 Speaker 3: But yeah, that was so much fun. 48 00:02:12,281 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: Though, what substances were you taking? None of those? No, 49 00:02:15,841 --> 00:02:17,001 Speaker 1: just no. 50 00:02:17,001 --> 00:02:19,201 Speaker 3: No. We would do Mardi Gras on the top of 51 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,721 Speaker 3: the roof. That was just so much fun. 52 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: Oh. 53 00:02:23,041 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: No, taxi club was over, so we would be right 54 00:02:25,481 --> 00:02:28,441 Speaker 3: on Oxford Street, so it would be up on the 55 00:02:28,561 --> 00:02:29,761 Speaker 3: roof watching all the flow. 56 00:02:29,881 --> 00:02:31,961 Speaker 4: We go back, surrounded by the gates. 57 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:32,681 Speaker 1: When you were younger. 58 00:02:32,721 --> 00:02:36,361 Speaker 3: I loved the games, felt safe, always loved the gaze. 59 00:02:36,601 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: The gaze have loved me and protected me my whole 60 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:45,481 Speaker 3: entire life. My first love was a gay man. Really yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 61 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,481 Speaker 3: my first kiss was a gay man. He didn't know 62 00:02:49,561 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: that at the time. I suppose he knew at the time. 63 00:02:52,361 --> 00:02:54,361 Speaker 3: We were living in New Zealand. It wasn't until we 64 00:02:54,561 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: came over here and he gave me the little chat 65 00:02:57,481 --> 00:02:59,761 Speaker 3: we see just to let you know that I'm actually. 66 00:02:59,881 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: Were you devastating? 67 00:03:02,441 --> 00:03:06,161 Speaker 3: I don't know if I was devastating because you come 68 00:03:06,201 --> 00:03:09,641 Speaker 3: from New Zealand, right, which is all very very quiet, 69 00:03:10,041 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: very reserved. 70 00:03:11,601 --> 00:03:12,681 Speaker 1: You didn't have anything. 71 00:03:13,561 --> 00:03:16,321 Speaker 3: Yeah, very much. And then we got over here in 72 00:03:16,321 --> 00:03:19,401 Speaker 3: Oxford Street. It was just like hitting the big time. 73 00:03:20,281 --> 00:03:20,801 Speaker 1: Beautiful. 74 00:03:21,401 --> 00:03:24,761 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great the first time moved to I 75 00:03:24,921 --> 00:03:29,481 Speaker 3: moved over to Australia in eighty eight. So X God 76 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,081 Speaker 3: was one that was so much fun. 77 00:03:32,281 --> 00:03:36,241 Speaker 1: XBO was so good. Did you go to Yeah? 78 00:03:36,521 --> 00:03:38,481 Speaker 3: Everyone went to X God. 79 00:03:38,521 --> 00:03:41,481 Speaker 4: I wish I was alive for that, were you not? No, 80 00:03:41,521 --> 00:03:44,641 Speaker 4: I was born in eighty seven. I'm Sydney. 81 00:03:44,881 --> 00:03:47,761 Speaker 1: I wish I could have experienced It was such a 82 00:03:47,801 --> 00:03:48,641 Speaker 1: great time. 83 00:03:48,961 --> 00:03:50,881 Speaker 4: There's still remnants of it around Brisberte. 84 00:03:51,801 --> 00:03:53,721 Speaker 1: That was good fun. We had a great time. 85 00:03:53,801 --> 00:03:56,481 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Sydney was just magnificent. 86 00:03:57,441 --> 00:04:00,201 Speaker 4: Do you have a favorite memory from your clubbing days? 87 00:04:00,521 --> 00:04:02,401 Speaker 3: Do I have a favorite memory. 88 00:04:02,041 --> 00:04:04,641 Speaker 1: From my clubbing anything nefarious? 89 00:04:04,681 --> 00:04:04,841 Speaker 4: Ever? 90 00:04:04,881 --> 00:04:08,041 Speaker 3: Have them? Oh? I used to love going to the 91 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:11,401 Speaker 3: town Hall Hotel in Belmaine on the corner you won't 92 00:04:11,441 --> 00:04:14,241 Speaker 3: know it on a Sunday night and they had all 93 00:04:14,281 --> 00:04:18,521 Speaker 3: the upcoming drag queens and they would be doing their shows. 94 00:04:19,161 --> 00:04:22,041 Speaker 3: Oh it was fantastic. Oh wow, it was packed to 95 00:04:22,081 --> 00:04:22,801 Speaker 3: the rim. 96 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,321 Speaker 1: Like we shouldered his shoulder in the early nineties. 97 00:04:25,401 --> 00:04:25,561 Speaker 3: Yeah. 98 00:04:25,641 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone was just loving it. Oh, that would 99 00:04:28,281 --> 00:04:28,921 Speaker 1: have been fun. 100 00:04:29,201 --> 00:04:32,361 Speaker 3: And it's so sad that we've just lost Maxie Shields. 101 00:04:32,681 --> 00:04:33,001 Speaker 1: Yeah. 102 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,041 Speaker 3: Maxie was in down Drag Race and magnificent. 103 00:04:38,241 --> 00:04:42,161 Speaker 1: I told you I did a short Maxie and. 104 00:04:42,081 --> 00:04:44,161 Speaker 3: I love the fact that they turned up and full dry. 105 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:44,521 Speaker 1: It was. 106 00:04:44,841 --> 00:04:47,961 Speaker 4: It was a late night course, so catered to people 107 00:04:48,041 --> 00:04:49,921 Speaker 4: that worked full time on the Tuesdays and. 108 00:04:49,961 --> 00:04:52,041 Speaker 1: A Thursday night or a Friday night. 109 00:04:53,041 --> 00:04:55,681 Speaker 4: He would come out of drag on the Tuesday and 110 00:04:55,721 --> 00:04:58,041 Speaker 4: then was like just a peds up, guys, I'm coming 111 00:04:58,121 --> 00:05:01,201 Speaker 4: in full drag on the Thursday nights. Just imagine a 112 00:05:01,241 --> 00:05:04,721 Speaker 4: Tuesday's all looking at the lecturer and then on a Thursday, 113 00:05:05,041 --> 00:05:07,361 Speaker 4: the lectures talking a bit, We're all looking at Maxie 114 00:05:07,361 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 4: because she was just like the biggest fat tits and 115 00:05:11,521 --> 00:05:18,721 Speaker 4: she like just so just official, spectacular and really devastating. 116 00:05:18,921 --> 00:05:20,001 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's devastating. 117 00:05:20,081 --> 00:05:23,801 Speaker 3: It's just it's really impacted the whole of Marti Gras. 118 00:05:23,801 --> 00:05:25,961 Speaker 3: Did you see that they were doing a little tribute. 119 00:05:25,681 --> 00:05:28,321 Speaker 4: For I do know that she was so well loved 120 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: and respected and just such a really lovely person. 121 00:05:32,361 --> 00:05:36,241 Speaker 1: And also played Sharon I know in the Kavin kimd the. 122 00:05:36,281 --> 00:05:41,281 Speaker 3: Music Yah, which are still performing in Scotland. Yeah, and 123 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,641 Speaker 3: he had to leave that because he had Yeah, well 124 00:05:44,681 --> 00:05:46,681 Speaker 3: he didn't even know he had cancer at that stage. 125 00:05:46,841 --> 00:05:47,601 Speaker 1: That was so cool. 126 00:05:47,641 --> 00:05:49,801 Speaker 3: He just thought he had a gland that was swollen. 127 00:05:50,041 --> 00:05:55,361 Speaker 3: Oh my god, horrendous. But we'll absolutely miss Maxie. 128 00:05:55,601 --> 00:05:58,561 Speaker 4: Did you ever see MAXI perform? Y? 129 00:05:58,721 --> 00:06:06,321 Speaker 3: So funny, so funny, funny, like naturally funny. 130 00:06:06,361 --> 00:06:08,001 Speaker 4: How do we end on something more positive? 131 00:06:09,041 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about doing drag? 132 00:06:10,921 --> 00:06:11,161 Speaker 1: No? 133 00:06:11,761 --> 00:06:13,001 Speaker 4: I couldn't shave my beard. 134 00:06:13,161 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: You couldn't shave You've. 135 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: Never seen me without a beard. 136 00:06:16,921 --> 00:06:18,881 Speaker 1: Let me tell you, well, I have when you were 137 00:06:18,921 --> 00:06:19,801 Speaker 1: like three. 138 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 4: Seen my thumb. 139 00:06:20,761 --> 00:06:21,801 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I look like. 140 00:06:22,801 --> 00:06:26,041 Speaker 4: I look like a thumb. I like to describe myself. 141 00:06:26,161 --> 00:06:29,001 Speaker 4: My head is an olive and my body's a potato. 142 00:06:29,121 --> 00:06:33,121 Speaker 4: Like there's no neck, it's just olive into potato. I'm 143 00:06:33,201 --> 00:06:37,241 Speaker 4: very handsome though, it's also very handsome with the beard. 144 00:06:37,961 --> 00:06:40,161 Speaker 3: Charlie sent me some vision of him. 145 00:06:40,641 --> 00:06:43,601 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and drag Charlie, your youngest son. 146 00:06:43,801 --> 00:06:47,921 Speaker 3: Yeah, why beautiful? Oh I just have I not shown 147 00:06:47,961 --> 00:06:49,241 Speaker 3: you the photo you did? 148 00:06:49,561 --> 00:06:52,921 Speaker 1: Yeah, stunning, stunning. He's like quite. 149 00:06:53,601 --> 00:06:59,241 Speaker 3: Beautiful, yes, beautiful, just features great eyes, grape bones to just. 150 00:06:59,161 --> 00:07:05,041 Speaker 4: A terrible personality, just so mean, to be so many. 151 00:07:05,761 --> 00:07:09,641 Speaker 1: He's beautifully mean. He's Hello's God is beautiful. It's such 152 00:07:09,641 --> 00:07:12,601 Speaker 1: a gorgeous woo. I love him very much. 153 00:07:14,481 --> 00:07:14,681 Speaker 3: Yeah,