WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 6 February

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Sherry, come on into the man cave. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a big way to end our week, including the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister. It won't be calling an election this weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>but it'll be thinking about it. It wasn't in Question

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<v Speaker 2>Times today. I'll explain why, and it was all of a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of politics, but I'll get to that in the

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<v Speaker 2>moment or two's time.

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<v Speaker 1>Bear with me.

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<v Speaker 2>But believe it or not, people who would like to

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<v Speaker 2>smoke pot legally in this country look like they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to pose a bit of an electoral threat, not just

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<v Speaker 2>to the Greens but to labor as well. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>explain all of that in chapter and verse And did

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<v Speaker 2>you know where then an ac DC came from? From

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest band Australia as ever produced answer will be

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<v Speaker 2>known tonight. As always, we start with the most important

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<v Speaker 2>thing in the greatest country of them all, that being

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<v Speaker 2>this one, and that remains what is happening in North Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of rain, lots of floods, lots of problems that

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<v Speaker 2>people are having to deal with. Now here is an

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<v Speaker 2>indication that the worst is not behind us yet. Because

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<v Speaker 2>remember even if the rain stopped, there's reign that will

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<v Speaker 2>be flowing down towards the sea. And be that Mackay,

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<v Speaker 2>be that Townsville, be that Cans, be that Ingham, all

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<v Speaker 2>of those places that we know and love, they're about

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<v Speaker 2>to cop even more.

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<v Speaker 3>Having his reign is now sitched in to central parts

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<v Speaker 3>of Queensland. So thankfully for Ingham and surrounding areas, the

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<v Speaker 3>worst of the rain is done. The floods won't get

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<v Speaker 3>to the same heights again, despite the fact that in

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<v Speaker 3>Queensland there's potential for still another five hundred millimeters over

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<v Speaker 3>the coming week.

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<v Speaker 2>These yes, of course, but it's about what ends up

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<v Speaker 2>flowing that way. So all the coverage will be there

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<v Speaker 2>all weekend long. Remember where you happen to be and

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<v Speaker 2>how you watch us, but it's Sky News Regional Flash

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<v Speaker 2>or Foxteurl all through the sky News app. However you

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<v Speaker 2>watch us, will keep the information there and also don't

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<v Speaker 2>forget to keep an eye on our weather channel all

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<v Speaker 2>week in and make sure the homepage as always is

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<v Speaker 2>skynews dot com dot au. For his part, the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister was in North Queensland today. He toured some of

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<v Speaker 2>the sites with the Premier of New South Wales, New

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<v Speaker 2>South Wales of Queen's Leak, David Cruci Foley, Queensley.

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<v Speaker 4>We've taken the opportunity to pre deploy and to restock

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<v Speaker 4>some resources in the knowledge that there could be some

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<v Speaker 4>more rain in the next few days, and that looks

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<v Speaker 4>like setting up a couple of different hubs and making

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<v Speaker 4>sure that we do what we did ahead of this event,

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<v Speaker 4>pre deploy the likes of swift Water to rescue and

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<v Speaker 4>sees and ergon Cruz.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, of course there are people in need, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>always important that the Prime Minister cares about those people

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<v Speaker 2>and goes and talks to them. The timing is interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>though in a more cynical mind than yours or even mine,

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<v Speaker 2>might suggest that he was there today because he knew

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<v Speaker 2>that he didn't have to answer questions in Parliament and

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<v Speaker 2>he was able to do pretty softer appearances on breakfast

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<v Speaker 2>television this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course his heart's in the right place.

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<v Speaker 5>Today we're announcing eight million dollars CO funded Community Relief Fund,

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<v Speaker 5>providing up to a million dollars for the Local Government

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<v Speaker 5>Association to eight of them that are impacted by this flooding.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben More than the appearance of the politicians are of

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<v Speaker 2>course the people, and how are they holding up after

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<v Speaker 2>yet another day of tough times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty crazy and it sucks. With nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had to swim from our houses to the shops

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<v Speaker 2>and they haven't been open either. All right, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to the politics of the day now. On Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 2>I can take a little time to start pulling apart

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<v Speaker 2>some of the lies that are building up by a

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<v Speaker 2>government that has got virtually no good record to run on,

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<v Speaker 2>apart from putting a whole series of land mines into

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<v Speaker 2>the federal budget, the meaning it will be in deficit

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<v Speaker 2>for the next forty years. So of course their single

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<v Speaker 2>plan is to run against the opposition. Hence why they

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<v Speaker 2>keep doing this over and over again about a policy

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<v Speaker 2>which has been recently announced by the opposition.

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<v Speaker 4>When they say they're putting their money where their mouth is,

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<v Speaker 4>they mean a ten billion dollar plan for you to

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<v Speaker 4>shout the boss's.

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<v Speaker 6>Lunch, and that side of the house is focused on

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<v Speaker 6>long lunches.

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<v Speaker 4>This man favors long lunches over public hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>The only policy they have is free lunch serving bosses

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<v Speaker 1>long lunches, a taxpayer expense that'll spend billions on free

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<v Speaker 1>lunches for possible, always about lunch with these folks.

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<v Speaker 2>A particular example of an MP who is twisting this

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<v Speaker 2>as hard as they can is on the Chinese surveillance

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<v Speaker 2>app TikTok, which last time I remember was banned by

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<v Speaker 2>all official use in Parliament House, So presumably it's somebody

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<v Speaker 2>with an outside Wilwei phone.

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<v Speaker 6>Long lunches paid for by the taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 1>For bosses are the lips for real?

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<v Speaker 6>What's next putting your feed up at your desk at

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<v Speaker 6>work smoking a cigar? You know what? Seriously, one point

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<v Speaker 6>six billion dollars a taxpayer dollars are going to go

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<v Speaker 6>down the drain so Peter Dunn can help his business

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<v Speaker 6>mates have a nice long lunch at the expensive workers

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<v Speaker 6>It's absolutely ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we had it all bosses, evil cigar smokers. Geez.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder why his efforts turned up in some of

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<v Speaker 2>my social media feeds, not via TikTok, but when it

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<v Speaker 2>was repeated on Instagram all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Time to actually tell the truth about.

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<v Speaker 2>What the idea is that they are trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>it seem like is just for the taxpayers of Australia

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<v Speaker 2>to be subsidizing the monocle wearing, cigar smoking top hat

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<v Speaker 2>owning evil bosses of Australia. Now, there is a rule

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia when it comes to big business. Now, big

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<v Speaker 2>business is to find in lots of different ways, but

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<v Speaker 2>for the purpose of this conversation, it is any business

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<v Speaker 2>that has a turnover of more than ten million dollars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a bank, a mining company, a finance company, a media company,

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<v Speaker 2>all of these things would be the example of said businesses.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is a system that currently allows them to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid fringe benefits tax when they are taking clients out

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<v Speaker 2>to lunch. The alternative treasurer Angus Taylor explains, a large

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<v Speaker 2>company can cater for a lunch with food and our

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<v Speaker 2>cohol in its boardroom worth thousands of dollars and can

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<v Speaker 2>claim that cost as a tax deduction. But of course

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<v Speaker 2>this is not extended to the world of small business.

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<v Speaker 2>Small business again, as defined in this policy, is a

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<v Speaker 2>business with a turnover of less than ten million dollars. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be the extreme amount of small businesses in

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<v Speaker 2>the country. So let's actually have a look at the policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Put simply, the policy is that if you have a ABN,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a sole trader or you're a small business of

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<v Speaker 2>any kind, the same rules that apply to the absolute

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<v Speaker 2>big end of town would apply to you.

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<v Speaker 7>To small businesses with a turnover up to ten million dollars,

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<v Speaker 7>we will offer for two years a tax deduction of

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<v Speaker 7>up to twenty thousand dollars per financial year for business

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<v Speaker 7>related meal expenses at local cafes, pubs and restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, how shocking have you got your Rocky Patel B

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<v Speaker 2>fifty two ready? That's a cigar of course, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the real big end of town. The idea that up

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty thousand dollars if you take somebody out for

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<v Speaker 2>a meal to say say thank you for them using

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<v Speaker 2>your small business, or as a way of trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get new clients for your business, that you would have

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<v Speaker 2>the same tax.

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<v Speaker 1>Free status as the big corporations. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what labor is trying to pretend is taxpayer funds

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<v Speaker 2>going to bosses while their workers aren't going out to lunch.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the Labor party, desperate to change the subject

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<v Speaker 2>with a very compliant media, have no interest in what

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<v Speaker 2>the truth is. After all, these were the people who

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<v Speaker 2>tried to pretend that the liberal government of years ago

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<v Speaker 2>was going to privatize medicare. It doesn't matter what's true

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<v Speaker 2>or not. It's just about what they can sell, how

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<v Speaker 2>they can change the subject, how just as they did

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two, they can lie to people to

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<v Speaker 2>get into power. We know they lied because your power

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<v Speaker 2>bill is not going down by two hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five dollars that was promised by twenty twenty five. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that their promise was that cost of living would

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<v Speaker 2>be lower under a labor government. Instead pick your indices.

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<v Speaker 2>All of it is up. And one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>why the Labor Party is so able to tell this lie,

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<v Speaker 2>so able to pretend what this policy is as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to what it actually is, is because virtually none of

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<v Speaker 2>them have any experience in small business. Many of them

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<v Speaker 2>have either worked in and around the political world or

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<v Speaker 2>in the adjunct for the Labor Party of the Union movement,

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<v Speaker 2>where of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course the boss is evil and the bosses and they

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<v Speaker 1>ever trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Rip off the worker, as if we're back in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenties. But the reality of Australia and its businesses

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<v Speaker 2>is that the extreme majority of them are small. The

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<v Speaker 2>extreme majority of them are the ones who would benefit

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<v Speaker 2>from the policy. These are stats from the Australian Bureau Statistics,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that far right wing think tank. It shows

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<v Speaker 2>that what ninety seven percent of all business in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>what two and a half million of the two point

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<v Speaker 2>six million businesses are small businesses in this way, these

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<v Speaker 2>are people who either have no employees, it's just themselves

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<v Speaker 2>a sole trader and an actual fact, sixty one percent

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<v Speaker 2>of small businesses don't have any employees. It's just a

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<v Speaker 2>person with an ABN who might be going house to

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<v Speaker 2>house when it comes to cutting hair, or front yard

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<v Speaker 2>to backyard when it comes to cutting somebody's lawn, or

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's helping you out with your pool header. Those

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<v Speaker 2>types of people, you know, the big end of town,

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<v Speaker 2>who shouldn't dare be allowed to go to the pub

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<v Speaker 2>and pay for a parmy with their business and not

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay fringe benefit tax on top of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again the vast majority of the vast majority of

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<v Speaker 2>Australian business are sole traders. And the Labor Party just

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<v Speaker 2>does not understand this. They didn't understand it under Howard,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't understand it today that the people who are

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<v Speaker 2>the workers of Australia. Are not just the ones who

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<v Speaker 2>are wearing high vis and part of union membership on

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<v Speaker 2>building sites. They are not just people who work for

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<v Speaker 2>the public service and a part of the union movement.

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<v Speaker 2>They are people who have decided to go out on

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<v Speaker 2>their own and try to shape their own financial future.

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<v Speaker 2>These people are no burden on the Australian taxpayer. These

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<v Speaker 2>are the people who work their backsides off and if

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<v Speaker 2>they do have somebody else working for them, they pay

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else before they pay themselves, which means often they

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<v Speaker 2>don't get paid themselves. These are the people who find

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<v Speaker 2>it incredibly hard to get alone, have had buggerow holidays,

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<v Speaker 2>and of the people who without them, our country would

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely collapse.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe me, if.

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<v Speaker 2>Small business disappeared, you would notice it far more than

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<v Speaker 2>if big government did.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the whole point.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this policy, the one that is sagar jumping bosses,

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<v Speaker 2>is for ninety seven percent of businesses in Australia, of

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<v Speaker 2>which more than sixty percent are sole traders, to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to have the same tax benefits as big businesses.

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<v Speaker 2>It means that you would be able to take a

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<v Speaker 2>client or a potential client to the local pub. You

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<v Speaker 2>would be able to pay for the lunch, but there'd

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<v Speaker 2>be no tax implications when it comes to fringe benefits tax. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this has two reasons for being. One is that it

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<v Speaker 2>takes a financial burden off businesses. It means that they

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<v Speaker 2>have an ability to claim off their own tax or

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<v Speaker 2>not have to pay extra tax. I should say on

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<v Speaker 2>being able to grow their business. And of course the

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<v Speaker 2>bigger their business growth, the more tax goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>the federal government. But they'd know nothing about it. Literally,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a look today. You cannot find serious members

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<v Speaker 2>of the federal government with any small government experience. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister worked as a bank teller for a

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<v Speaker 2>year in the eighties, or somebody worked as a checkout

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<v Speaker 2>person making their way through university. But that's about it.

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<v Speaker 2>With the exception of the most prominent small business person

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<v Speaker 2>in the federal government, and that is Senator Don Farrell,

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<v Speaker 2>the Trade Minister who launched a wine brand in between

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<v Speaker 2>his two times in the Australian Senate. There's not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to show. And that's why they can so easily

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<v Speaker 2>attend that boss equals billionaire rather than boss equals someone

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<v Speaker 2>who pays themselves after they pay everyone else, who often

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<v Speaker 2>has to go into their own savings or put their

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<v Speaker 2>own bills off, so the people who work for them

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<v Speaker 2>are guaranteed of their fortnightly or monthly wage. The other

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<v Speaker 2>issue is that the cafes and restaurants and even some

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<v Speaker 2>community pubs around the country are in a huge amount

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<v Speaker 2>of trouble right now because you know that cost of

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<v Speaker 2>living thing that they promise to do better, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>only got really worse since this government came to power. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>everything costs more for these businesses. Their power bills cost more,

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of the employee costs more, the insurance costs more.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it is that they cook, clean or sell also

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<v Speaker 2>costs more. So, as you've seen as part of more

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<v Speaker 2>than a football stadium of businesses that have gone busts

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<v Speaker 2>since this government came to power, a very significant number

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<v Speaker 2>of them are in the hospitality industry and that does

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<v Speaker 2>affect everything from the local mister Whippy van all the

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<v Speaker 2>way through.

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<v Speaker 1>To a local motoring.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, if you have a look at these stats,

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<v Speaker 2>even more of them are in trouble than the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that have blown up since this mob came to power.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty five percent of hospitality businesses consider themselves to be

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<v Speaker 2>in a medium risk about whether they will.

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<v Speaker 1>Exist into the future.

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<v Speaker 2>So fourteen percent are in a absolute world of pain,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the rest they're going okay. But the vast majority,

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<v Speaker 2>what the best part of seventy nine eighty and a

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<v Speaker 2>bit percent, they're in financial stress right now. So if

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<v Speaker 2>it means that the policy that we'll see that small

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<v Speaker 2>businesses and old traders will be able to use the

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<v Speaker 2>same tax rules as big union and big business to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to go out to lunch, guess who the

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<v Speaker 2>beneficiary is going to be the people who sell you

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<v Speaker 2>the lunch. So next time you see one of these videos,

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<v Speaker 2>feel free to say, so, why shouldn't small business have

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<v Speaker 2>the same tax rules as big business? Or do you

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<v Speaker 2>just not care about the vast majority of businesses in

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<v Speaker 2>this country? Or you could just write back and say

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<v Speaker 2>why do you hate sole traders? Or maybe the next

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<v Speaker 2>time one of these MPs or their staffers have you

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<v Speaker 2>around to cut their hair or you around to pressure

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<v Speaker 2>wash their driveway, you should remind them that you're a boss,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you're only a boss of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, a little further to.

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<v Speaker 2>What I was just mentioning, and it is of course

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<v Speaker 2>the role of social media and the Internet growing ever

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<v Speaker 2>stronger and, particularly when it comes.

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<v Speaker 1>To politics, even more determinative.

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<v Speaker 2>About which way elections are going to go. Now, we

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<v Speaker 2>all know that the Trump win was very largely fueled

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<v Speaker 2>by not the big tech bros getting behind the president,

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<v Speaker 2>but the people who supported the president playing a much

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<v Speaker 2>better social media game than Kamala Harris. Remember, Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to pay influences where millions of people who

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<v Speaker 2>were supporting Trump were already making the memes and the

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<v Speaker 2>videos and the little videos that you saw all over

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<v Speaker 2>your social media pointing out the idiocy of the Democratic Party,

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<v Speaker 2>the absurdity of some of its supporters, the madness in

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<v Speaker 2>most of the media, or of course, the endless failures

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<v Speaker 2>of the candidate themselves. So we've got to pay attention

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<v Speaker 2>to how this is going to play out here now. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 2>I spent much of this week trying to have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at who has the stronger hand when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to social media, not just in the content that they make,

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<v Speaker 2>but if they launched it exclusively on their own platforms,

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<v Speaker 2>who is more likely to see it? But that's the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff they don't pay for. There's also plenty of things

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<v Speaker 2>that people do pay for when it comes to their

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<v Speaker 2>own promotion on the Internet. As you know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a business page for your crazy boss behavior with

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<v Speaker 2>a business, you were able to boost your post by

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<v Speaker 2>paying people like Facebook or Meta or alphabet ie Google

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<v Speaker 2>to help spread your message far and wide. And certainly

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<v Speaker 2>the Tiffany Tels know how to do that. After all,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that their little pocket of Australia and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean their politics and the people who backed them have

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<v Speaker 2>got plenty of cash and so far, apparently just in

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<v Speaker 2>the past few months, they've spent more than one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty grand on Google and Meta ats put simply

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook and YouTube ads. From October twenty eighth last year

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<v Speaker 2>to January twenty five, meniek Ryan spent seventy one thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars on Meta ads, while spenders spent about fifty seven

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<v Speaker 2>seven thousand dollars more than twenty eight thousand dollars on

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<v Speaker 2>Google ads as well, putting them amongst the highest spending

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<v Speaker 2>individual candidates at the election. Of course, the air support

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<v Speaker 2>that helps fund.

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<v Speaker 1>Their community campaigns.

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<v Speaker 2>But remember we've got good billionaires and bad billionaires in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to political donations, well, they do know

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<v Speaker 2>how to spend a dollar on the internet. Climbate two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred spend four hundred and twenty six thousand dollars across

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<v Speaker 2>Google and Meta for advertising. The Progressive Independent Funding Group

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<v Speaker 2>do you have to call them directs that money to

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<v Speaker 2>advertising political candidates and promoting itself to receive further donations.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, they took on one to comment to the story.

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<v Speaker 2>The Australian government was the biggest spender on Meta in

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<v Speaker 2>the past three months. They paid three hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight thousand dollars in ads to flog themselves. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the two little too late tax cuts are amazing and

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<v Speaker 2>here's the YouTube ad to prove it. But it also

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<v Speaker 2>does worth pointing out here about how these ads are

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<v Speaker 2>going to play out in the overall fightwe Anthony Alberanezi

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<v Speaker 2>and Peter Dutton. Who is going to play the better

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<v Speaker 2>social media game?

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I always think that the single best way to make

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<v Speaker 2>a point on social media is to do something funny.

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<v Speaker 2>If I see another politician just standing in front of

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<v Speaker 2>something telling me I don't care, I want to see

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<v Speaker 2>a good social media game where people are turning around

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<v Speaker 2>and they are making the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the tools that exist to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that means with one laptop and one clever person,

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<v Speaker 2>you can come up with a point that an advertising

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<v Speaker 2>agency would have spent way too long on. It also

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<v Speaker 2>means you can hit hard and you can hit fast,

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<v Speaker 2>and they.

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<v Speaker 1>All do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's have a look about who has the strongest

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<v Speaker 2>hand when it comes to social media. On Facebook, the

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<v Speaker 2>Labour Party has three hundred and twenty two thousand followers,

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberal and National Parties together three hundred and seven thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens three hundred and three, one Nation has one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirteen thousand, and the United Australia Party, which

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<v Speaker 2>is now deregistered but still exists in a digital sense,

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<v Speaker 2>has one hundred and seventeen thousand people. On X two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifteen thousand people follow the Labor Party. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I know there are state versions of this, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the federal parties, the Libs at one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty two, the Greens at one hundred and thirteen, one,

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<v Speaker 2>Nation at forty one thousand, and again United Australian Party,

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<v Speaker 2>who as I understand, deregistered, not running at the election,

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<v Speaker 2>but still have an ability to talk to nineteen thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people at once. Maybe Instagram's your thing. Well, that is

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<v Speaker 2>a slightly more level playing field amongst the two parties

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<v Speaker 2>of government.

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<v Speaker 1>But have a look at the Greens at.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and sixty nine thousand people, they are more

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<v Speaker 2>than one hundred thousand people than the Labor Party and

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<v Speaker 2>well and truly about one hundred and twenty thousand more

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<v Speaker 2>than the Liberals do one Nation and the United Australian Party.

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<v Speaker 1>They exist on Instagram, but.

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<v Speaker 2>They've decided to put their efforts into other areas. So

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<v Speaker 2>it means that things like the long lege unch lie

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<v Speaker 2>is able to be amplified, probably louder by the Labor

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<v Speaker 2>Party on all of its social media forms, as say

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberal Party either launching an attack on the government

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<v Speaker 2>or defending and explaining its own policy. Which is why

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<v Speaker 2>in social media, the second somebody creates something that's coming

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<v Speaker 2>after you, you have to respond with something that's going

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<v Speaker 2>after them. You have to do things that are clever,

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<v Speaker 2>that are different, that use things like animation, but again

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<v Speaker 2>most importantly humor. Because I don't know about you, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not really sending that many reels amongst family and friends

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<v Speaker 2>about boring politicians saying boring politician stuff. But if it's

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<v Speaker 2>funny videos of Joe Biden falling up the stairs or

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris saying something stupid or some idiot at MSNBC

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<v Speaker 2>melting down because Donald Trump isn't dead in jail yet,

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<v Speaker 2>you're more likely to afford that stuff on. It's something

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<v Speaker 2>that I hope the conservative side of politics knows how

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<v Speaker 2>to play will only find out all together. But what

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<v Speaker 2>about the individual messaging of politicians in this country, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's look at the party leaders. Albo's got four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty seven thousand people who apparently like his page

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook. I've not gone through and double checked how

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<v Speaker 2>many of them are paid for versus how many are organic,

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<v Speaker 2>but it absolutely smacks the number of people that are

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<v Speaker 2>following Peter Dutton or even Adam Bant. Pauline Hanson is

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<v Speaker 2>actually the champion here with Pauline Hanson's please explain which

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<v Speaker 2>is generally the main place people will go to get information.

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<v Speaker 2>All the funny cartoons that they put out, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why they have such a strong game, and that's how

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<v Speaker 2>they use humor through those great videos having a go

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<v Speaker 2>at everyone else, and it means they're able to get

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<v Speaker 2>their message out. Ralph Babbitt no slouch either in front

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<v Speaker 2>of Peter Dutton and Adam Bant with his personal following

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<v Speaker 2>where he is much more aggressive and a much more

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<v Speaker 2>savvy player of social media than the conventional media would

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<v Speaker 2>want to give him credit for. He's actually worth a

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<v Speaker 2>follow just to.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a look.

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<v Speaker 2>At times a little trumpy, but quite often in the

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<v Speaker 2>right place.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of their followings on Twitter, it won't surprise

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<v Speaker 2>you that Anthony Alberanezi when it was a lefty site,

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<v Speaker 2>has more followers done at one hundred and seventy six,

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<v Speaker 2>had and Bantered two hundred and thirty two, Hansoon one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty six, and again Ralph Babbott's strong for

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<v Speaker 2>a essentially one man band operating up the corner of

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<v Speaker 2>the Parliament at seventy seven thousand and finally on Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>and I know there's are lots of numbers, but they

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<v Speaker 2>are showing you that the Labor Party and Albo in

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<v Speaker 2>particular does have an advantage in terms of how many

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<v Speaker 2>people they can get to, how many minds they can

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<v Speaker 2>turn before the truth starts heading their way. On Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>Albow again four hundred and thirty thousand. Well, everyone else

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<v Speaker 2>is behind Daylight which is running second, and Daylight Mark

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<v Speaker 2>two is running third. Which brings me to how do

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<v Speaker 2>you beat this algorithm? How do you get a ram?

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<v Speaker 2>The power of those that have accumulated their power on

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<v Speaker 2>social media. Well, you you may have only one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty followers, you may have a thousand members of

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<v Speaker 2>your family, but together, collectively, the people will always dwarf

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<v Speaker 2>the organizations, the political parties, or the single politicians. So

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<v Speaker 2>this election, if you want an outcome, do your bit.

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<v Speaker 2>here on Paul Murray Live. You can always send me

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<v Speaker 2>an email Paul at skynews dot com dot au. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 2>as I say, jump onto the Facebook page in a

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<v Speaker 2>moment of two's time after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>The latest attendants by the press gallery to get dartin.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that, but we'll poke fun at it because

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully somebody will post that video more on a sec

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<v Speaker 2>As we know when it comes to those that are

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<v Speaker 2>of the left persuasion. So everyone inside the camera bubble

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<v Speaker 2>we except bear few, and certainly those that guard the bubble,

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<v Speaker 2>like of course much of the media. There is one

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<v Speaker 2>name that over and over again the Labor Party thinks

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<v Speaker 2>will somehow naturally get Australians to forget the past three

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<v Speaker 2>bad years of this government.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Dutton. Peter Dutton, Peter Dutton, Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 5>Peter Dutton, Peter Duttin Peter Dutton Peter Dutton, Peter Dutton,

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<v Speaker 5>Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we've said this multiple and many times that they're advertising,

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<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that it has all got worse under

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<v Speaker 2>this government, are trying to pretend.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll get worse under the next one. Black and white music,

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<v Speaker 1>a scary voiceover, and the black and white voter.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how they play well, of course, the pratorian

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<v Speaker 2>guard of the Prime Minister and those who believe that

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<v Speaker 2>they know more.

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<v Speaker 1>Than any voter in Australia, with a few exceptions.

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<v Speaker 2>And again I apologize to my friends when I use

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<v Speaker 2>the broad brush, but alas I must, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>of course much of the Camber Press gallery. We know

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<v Speaker 2>that they are more than happy to run the lie

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again that it's Peter un't Peter Duden,

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<v Speaker 2>Peter duddon nothing else, which is why the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 2>just after losing the voice vote, set up the dirt

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<v Speaker 2>unit to find bad news about Peter Duden or his

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<v Speaker 2>government to dispense to many people in the press gallery.

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<v Speaker 1>Not planning a trip there anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course one of the high priestesses of this

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<v Speaker 2>collection of reporters is nasty Nicky Sava. Writing now in

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<v Speaker 2>the Channel nine newspapers. But previously will being a self

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<v Speaker 2>admitted liar about her own behavior when she was in

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<v Speaker 2>the press gallery. But now of course she's all above it,

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<v Speaker 2>and because her CV got liberal in it somewhere, she's

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<v Speaker 2>of course fed it everywhere as an honest broker. Now

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<v Speaker 2>she of course has decided to write today in the

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<v Speaker 2>Nils pair Pa well, she firstly decided that immigration, of

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<v Speaker 2>course any discussion around it, well, of course it's all racist,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it, Despite the fact that the one point three

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<v Speaker 2>million people being added to the rental lines, hospital cues.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we talk about immigration. It's not about where

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<v Speaker 2>people are from, what they believe, what they look like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about this year number of people being added to

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<v Speaker 2>the existing problems in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>But I digress.

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<v Speaker 2>What was today's offerings from nasty Nicky Saba, Well, it

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<v Speaker 2>was Trump's reelection has enabled Dutton the chance to play

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<v Speaker 2>the role of a lifetime because of course Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 2>is Donald Trump. In Australia wouldn't want to Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>so therefore you don't want Peter Dutten, the opposition leader,

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<v Speaker 2>probably couldn't believe his luck when Donald Trump was re elected,

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<v Speaker 2>He gushed about how happy he was about it, no

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<v Speaker 2>doubt relishing playing his role of a lifetime as little

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<v Speaker 2>sir echo the big brain that comes up with this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>He might live to regret that though Trump made it

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<v Speaker 2>profitable for leaders to smear and sneer at experts, including scientists,

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<v Speaker 2>electoral commissioners, all those holy figures amongst US intelligence chiefs, economics,

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<v Speaker 2>the courts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but not political reporters.

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<v Speaker 2>Dunton's brutish strategy, she goes on to say, which crosses

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<v Speaker 2>the line into inciting community tensions.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's Dunton.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the one driving around in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 2>riding fther.

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<v Speaker 1>Or setting a fire here or there? Or what was

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<v Speaker 1>that thing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Laura Tingle said, Oh, that people will be turning on

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<v Speaker 2>foreign looking people at options, Oh yeah, or Peter Dutton apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>And it has brought the coalition back from the brink. However,

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<v Speaker 2>senior liberals note, which is code for I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 2>people inside who also don't like what that brutish future

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That it is okay, It is okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That it's not as well placed this time at the

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<v Speaker 2>electoral cycle as other oppositions.

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<v Speaker 1>The poles aren't even good enough. You see, if the

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<v Speaker 1>Reserve Bank, and of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course she's now one of these people who says that

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<v Speaker 2>despite the twelve interestrate rises that have gone on for

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<v Speaker 2>how long, that if somehow it ticks back by one

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<v Speaker 2>or two, Australia will be jumping in the air. They've

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<v Speaker 2>had to pay fourteen thousand dollars fourteen thousand dollars extra

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<v Speaker 2>on a homelane of five hundred thousand dollars twenty eight thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a million, do you sums add fourteen every

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred thousand?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But if the Reserve Bank cuts its interest rates twice

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<v Speaker 2>and Albo calls an election for May, maybe treating the

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<v Speaker 2>voters as mugs as badly as they have in the

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<v Speaker 2>past will result in a bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Outcome for Dutton into the future. You want to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>About treating voters as mugs. The central advertising campaign of

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<v Speaker 2>the Labor Party is it will be worse under Albinizi.

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<v Speaker 2>They are literally running the same play against the Libs

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<v Speaker 2>as the Libs ran against Labor. But of course it

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<v Speaker 2>was true three years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Take your pick, three.

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<v Speaker 2>Million people this close to homelessness, three and a bit

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<v Speaker 2>million people who by this time in the week will

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<v Speaker 2>have run out of food for their family. Even the

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<v Speaker 2>ABC showed today that in many and most suburban marginal

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<v Speaker 2>seeds the financial stress is close to ninety percent al

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<v Speaker 2>But Peter Dutton's going to sound like Trump, even though

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<v Speaker 2>as you will have seen many people who are yes

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<v Speaker 2>as all in on Trump as I am. But the

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<v Speaker 2>people who say that dudn't aint Trump enough. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not a Goldilock selection where you can be a little

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<v Speaker 2>too Trump, a little not Trump enough, a little just

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<v Speaker 2>right Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about holding a government to account that promised to

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<v Speaker 2>do better but everything got worse. But don't you love

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<v Speaker 2>how they spend things in the media. Oder be as

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<v Speaker 2>important as those people.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prime Minister's going to be worried about what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in Victoria this weekend because Victoria actually has one in

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<v Speaker 2>three of all federal labor EMPs come from Victoria. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four of the thirty nine seats they come from Victoria.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Prime Minister's pole numbers are starting to fall

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<v Speaker 2>apart in Victoria, and there are two state by elections

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<v Speaker 2>happening this weekend in Victoria. One is Piran right in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of sort of the nice bit of Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all kind and I like Melbourne very much, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bit of a fancy bit anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gone green for the past couple of elections.

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<v Speaker 2>A former Labor MP is actually going to be endorsing

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberal to take over. And then there's one in

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<v Speaker 2>the Urbs in where a bit now Labor have held

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<v Speaker 2>this seat for a long time. They should have been

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<v Speaker 2>enough margin to not even worry about it. But with

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<v Speaker 2>the Labour Party vote as low as it apparently is

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<v Speaker 2>right now in Victoria, there is a very good chance

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<v Speaker 2>that both of these seats are going to be lost,

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<v Speaker 2>and if they are lost, and that is going to

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<v Speaker 2>cause big trouble for the Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>John Black is the former ALP senator who believes that

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<v Speaker 2>Dunton has got a very good chance of forming minority

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<v Speaker 2>government and can see a case and has made it

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<v Speaker 2>many times in the Financial Review about how the Labour

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<v Speaker 2>parties fall is going to result in a change of government.

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<v Speaker 2>As I've said in the past before, I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a little over optimistic. But he's of the Labor flock

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<v Speaker 2>and he's willing to say it. So why should did

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<v Speaker 2>you pay attention to state by elections in Victoria when

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to affect what the government's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be well because of where the seats are and what

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<v Speaker 2>the crossover is, have a look at these Wherribee is

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<v Speaker 2>in the federal seat of Laila. Now they won that

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<v Speaker 2>pretty easily at the last election. If Werribee can't be

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<v Speaker 2>held onto the Labour Party, then will they be concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about holding onto Lala at a federal election. The Greens

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<v Speaker 2>easily won the seat of Melbourne. Paran has significant part

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<v Speaker 2>in that seat, as well as the Teals who only

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<v Speaker 2>kind of squeaked home if you remember in Kuyong in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty and twenty two. As John goes on to say,

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<v Speaker 2>the Federal Parliamentary Party's vote in Victoria has been tracking

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<v Speaker 2>the decline in the state vote, albeit with a small lag.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty percent was their vote just after the aston by

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<v Speaker 2>election when they were the honeymoon phase in mid twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. It's now down to twenty five percent federally

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<v Speaker 2>in January of twenty twenty five, in both primary and

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<v Speaker 2>two party preferred vote terms. Labour's federal vote is the

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<v Speaker 2>most in the most recent Sydney Morning Herald in an

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<v Speaker 2>age Resolve poll, is down almost eight percentage points. If

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<v Speaker 2>State Labor and the Greens can't hold seats like Werriby

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<v Speaker 2>and Peran, then things are going to be terminal for

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<v Speaker 2>the Albanezy government. Stand by, pay attention to what is

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<v Speaker 2>happening on Saturday. You'll see all the results play out

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<v Speaker 2>here also another reason our homepage skynews dot com dot au. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about what is happening with the Premier of Victoria,

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<v Speaker 2>just In Allen and of course her Labor Party there. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it was a relatively easy win for them

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<v Speaker 2>in the lower House last time, they actually didn't win

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<v Speaker 2>a majority in the upper house. And as we know,

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<v Speaker 2>the current public polling is terrible, so much so that

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<v Speaker 2>if they do lose these two seats, we may will

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<v Speaker 2>end up with a new Premier Victoria in the next

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<v Speaker 2>couple of months ahead of next year's state election. As

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<v Speaker 2>you can see, the primary vote for the Labor Party,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the State Labor Party is now down to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two percent. According to these poles. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>it absolutely fall off a cliff in the past twelve months,

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<v Speaker 2>you can see the Liberal Party is an absolute direct beneficiary.

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<v Speaker 2>So unlike say the federal vote, where Labor is going down,

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<v Speaker 2>the Libs are going up, but there's a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to others that is not being repeated in

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<v Speaker 2>the state pole that we are looking at right now

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<v Speaker 2>in Victoria, you can also see that over time. You

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 2>can see when the government first came to power back

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<v Speaker 2>in the twenty twenty one you can see the blue

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<v Speaker 2>line going from the middle of the page to the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the page now to the top of the page,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Labor Party going from the top of the

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<v Speaker 2>page to the middle of the page to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bottom of the page.

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<v Speaker 2>But what is really interesting to note, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>where something is even bigger than the Victorian government, is

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<v Speaker 2>that because they don't have a majority in the upper House,

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<v Speaker 2>the only way they can get something passed regularly is

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<v Speaker 2>with the support of Labor, Greens and the Legalized Cannabis Party.

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<v Speaker 2>The Legalized Cannabis Party got multiple people elected at the

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<v Speaker 2>last state election. The Animal Justice Party also got someone elected,

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<v Speaker 2>so they have a collection of people that they need

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:23.399
<v Speaker 2>to get onside before anything can be passed. Now, at

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 2>that last state election, Greens and the Legalized Cannabis Party

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<v Speaker 2>they were the ones so, as I said, are now

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<v Speaker 2>going to form the majority. And here are two of

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 2>those people now. Interestingly, they have long said that if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't get what they want, which is either the

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<v Speaker 2>full legalization of pot in Victoria or something very close

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<v Speaker 2>to it, then they will no longer support the government,

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:47.399
<v Speaker 2>meaning it would have no regular, guaranteed path of things

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<v Speaker 2>through the Upper House. This week they were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how that they believe that every Victorian should be able

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<v Speaker 2>to have fifty grams of marijuana for personal use and

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<v Speaker 2>there be no problems with said happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't smoke pot, but let's be honest, there are

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 2>many people who do in Australia. But more importantly, I

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about the politics of this legalized cannabis

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 2>movement because I think they're going to have quite an impact.

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<v Speaker 2>It's certainly the state elections, but maybe the federal election

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.839
<v Speaker 2>as well. I'll get to that in a second. As

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 2>for the people who are representing this move to fifty

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 2>grams of it, we will leave absolutely, Will we leave

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 2>anything in the locker room, Absolutely not. We're quite happy

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 2>to push the envelope as hard as it needs to

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 2>be pushed. If we can't agree, well, you know, we're

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.479
<v Speaker 2>not here for the catering. We're here to get things

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 2>done and we'll do what has to be done to

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 2>get that done, which means they are willing to essentially

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe not vote for anything that the government is going

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 2>to try to do in Victoria unless there is a

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 2>change to marijuana laws in Victoria. Now, please don't think

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 2>of this as me advocating that that's what should happen.

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I know what the consequences are of these things, but

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 2>there are enough people in Victoria who are voting for

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 2>that very thing to happen that a government that is

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.919
<v Speaker 2>desperate to hold on to every single vote they can,

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 2>they may well cave and give this movement what it wants.

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>You see.

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Another thing about the legalized cannabis movement is that they,

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I think, are going to start taking some votes off

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 2>the Greens. So maybe who don't people who don't like

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the social policies, the housing policies, or the general douchiness

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 2>of the Greens, They're going to go somewhere else. As

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 2>personal popularity polling has shown us that the Greens are

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 2>getting voters off side. Adam Bant particularly is in a

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 2>wall of pain, and one of the groups on the

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 2>left that are going to take advantage of that is

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 2>this Legalized Cannabis Party. Now they don't just have two

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 2>MPs in Victoria, they've got two in Western Australia and

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 2>one in New South Wales. So this is a national

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>movement of people with enough support to get people elected

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 2>to parliaments. This would mean that, as it follows, if

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 2>you can get elected to a state parliament, then you

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:03.760
<v Speaker 2>can probably start to push your way towards the final

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Senate spot, and being of the left, preferences will float

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.919
<v Speaker 2>at them through Labor, through the Greens, or up from

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Animal Justice, and there's every chance that we could end

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>up with a Legalized Cannabis Senator after the next election.

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Because if you have a look at this, half a

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:25.800
<v Speaker 2>million people voted for the Legalized Cannabis Party at the

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:29.359
<v Speaker 2>last federal election, one hundred and twenty five thousand. We're

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 2>in New South walest it was more Senate votes than

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the Libertarians, the Shooters or Animal Justice. In Victoria it

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 2>was one hundred and fourteen thousand more votes than the Libertarians,

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 2>the Shooters or one nation in Queensland, they almost got

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 2>one of the last Senate spots. Thankfully it went to

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Paul En Hanson of the last election, because they did

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 2>have more votes than the Libertarian or Animal Justice. As

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>for the actual number of people voting for these people

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>in state elections, and again please do not confuse me

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 2>with suggesting that they are the answer to all of

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Australia's problem or that I think that their policy is

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 2>the right way to go. But you're a fool if

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 2>you don't actually understand what is happening in the electorate.

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 2>And in the same way that there are lots of

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 2>people who do coalesce around the Libertarian Party who were

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>forming United Australian Party, voters and their preferences matter when

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 2>it comes to the Liberal Party either forming minority government

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 2>or maybe getting over the line. This also plays into

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 2>the Labor Party. In the Victorian state Upper House election

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two, they got one hundred and fifty

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 2>three thousand votes, which was more than the DLP or

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 2>the Lib Dems, both of whom got elected themselves as

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 2>well the Shooters. In one nation in New South Wales,

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 2>they had more votes than the Lib Dems, who got elected,

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 2>the Shooters who got elected, and Animal Justice who got elected.

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 2>And in Queensland there is no Upper House, so the

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 2>only place you can look for there is what happened

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 2>in the lower House. And in the nine seats that

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.959
<v Speaker 2>they ran, there was forty nine thousand getting more votes

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 2>in Queensland an Animal Justice or the Libertarian Party. So

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 2>the point is this, may I make a prediction before

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 2>your very eyes, no matter how glassy they may be,

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 2>if you're liking the numbers that I've just shown you,

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I think there's going to be an increase of this vote,

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 2>either because people think it's the right thing to do,

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 2>or secondly because maybe the Victorian government is going to

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 2>be the first to go as close as possible towards

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:20.240
<v Speaker 2>legalizing pot or maybe because it's a way of voting

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 2>left but not having to deal with the baggage of

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 2>the Greens. But watch this space, they're going to go

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 2>close to winning a Senate seat somewhere where let's all

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:34.399
<v Speaker 2>find out together on election nights, speaking of the Upper

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 2>House and minor parties, that wonderful mate Pauline Hansen. Now,

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 2>by the way, people say, why wasn't Pauline on the

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>show as much as she used to be.

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 1>There's no falling out.

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 2>It's just literally too late for her too often. But

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 2>certainly James is here in his here every Sunday night.

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 2>So they've had plenty of policy announcements today, and I

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 2>want to cheer a couple of these things on I

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 2>showed you the one where their idea is that if

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 2>one person in the couple is working but the other

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 2>person is staying at home to take care of the kids,

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 2>that rather than the one person paying tax for them,

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 2>the reality is that it should be averaged across couples,

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:05.760
<v Speaker 2>meaning you pay less.

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 6>One nation proposing couples with children could split their taxable income,

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.280
<v Speaker 6>pointing to an example of one parent earning one hundred

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 6>and twenty thousand and one parent staying at home. Currently,

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 6>they paid twenty nine thousand, four hundred and sixty seven

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 6>dollars tax, but splitting incomes at sixty thousand dollars each

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 6>would reduce their tax to nineteen thousand, nine hundred and

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 6>thirty four.

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:35.240
<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea, absolutely spectacular idea. I just randomly

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 2>told a few people about it on the weekend, and

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 2>they thought it was an absolute ripper. I then told

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.839
<v Speaker 2>them what party it was from, and they went back

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>to their normal corners when it came to being of

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 2>the left and people who would be more willing to

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 2>vote for it in the sensible center or of course

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the evil rights it just referred to amongst the very

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 2>clever circles. Well, Pauline's got another idea, and it's about

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 2>how to save us the taxpayer tens of billions of

0:43:57.160 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 2>dollars by cutting garbage out of the federal government. The

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 2>party has estimated it will save thirty billion dollars a

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 2>year by abolishing the departments or agencies or regulations related

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:08.839
<v Speaker 2>to climate control A for the twelve and a half

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 2>billion by getting rid of the National Indigenous Australians Agency.

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Savings would also be made by applying income means tests

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:20.839
<v Speaker 2>to the ndies, getting rid of the Therapeutic Goods Administration

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 2>and rolling its functions into the Department of Health, as

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 2>well as pulling out of UN commitments like the World

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Health Organization or the International Criminal Court. One Nation policies

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 2>would then allow aged and veteran pensioners to be able

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 2>to earn more without penalizing their government support payments, as

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 2>well as the income splitting that I spoke about before,

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 2>and they also want to lift the tax free threshold

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>for self front of retirees to thirty five thousand people.

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 2>You know on the show for as long as I've

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 2>had it, I love a conversation about a cross bench

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I love a conversation about a minor party. I just

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 2>think that whatever you do with number one, make sure

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 2>that with your number two vote, you vote for the

0:44:56.800 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 2>party you want to form government, because we might actually

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 2>to get a government that we want for in a

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 2>secure On Paul Murray Live including ACDC. Why is it

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 2>named that the story next? Thank you so much for

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 2>watching Late to Bait A few minutes up. Remember my

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 2>email Pulitsgoynews dot com dot au. So there is an

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 2>election which has just begun formerly in the beautiful state

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 2>of Western Australia. We look forward to being there with

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 2>our town in a couple of months time. Thank you

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 2>to everyone who's already reached out for Batemans Bay. By

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the way, looks like we're going to fill the room

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's a bloody big one. Now, let's be honest

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 2>this election. Despite the fact that Roger Cook is terrible.

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:41.360
<v Speaker 2>His record in the pandemic was awful, doesn't look like

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Wa wants a change.

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>In fact, if you.

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Like outsiders, the Liberal Party's paying eleven dollars. Otherwise a

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 2>dollar one means every expectation is that label will win,

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 2>and win pretty easily. So a lot of the media's

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 2>attention is on somebody who would like to represent the

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.799
<v Speaker 2>Liberal Party and get into parliament and maybe one day

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 2>becare I'm the leader and maybe one day at the

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>next election challenge to become Premier. And it is that

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>like Basil's emplus current Lord Mayor of Perth, and he's

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 2>had a pretty good ride, certainly when it comes to

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 2>the national media giving him plenty profile pieces, particularly the

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 2>one in the AFR about the man who would like

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 2>to be the King of Wa. But then the numbers

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 2>have sort of changed and Labor looked like it was

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 2>going to get re elected, so people are sort of

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 2>viewing it not quite as a change of government, but

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 2>as the beginning of someone new and potentially dangerous the

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Labor Party coming into the parliament.

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Now I think it's crossed that happens.

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I like Basil and I think that'd be good representing

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 2>his area and it'd be good to take the fight

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 2>up to the Labor Party. But I want to tell

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:42.800
<v Speaker 2>you a quick little story about how the media helps

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the Labor Party. When Basil's emplus, on the first day

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:50.400
<v Speaker 2>of the election campaign, was formally launching his campaign at

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 2>I think a bowling club, there were protesters who turned

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 2>up and they were holding signs and the protesters were very,

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 2>very angry, and the media followed this as if they

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 2>were legitimate members of the commedia, that the community who've

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 2>just woken up and said, I am deeply, deeply offended.

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Guess what if you look really closely at the bottom

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:16.399
<v Speaker 2>of those pictures written endorsed by the Labor Party, it's

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 2>a Labor Party stunt. Yet for some reason the Perth media,

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:23.280
<v Speaker 2>now kind of wanting to stay close to the remaining

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Cook government, was happy to run this make it look

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 2>like it was organic. In fact, here is the premier

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.720
<v Speaker 2>admitting that was the truth.

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 1>It was a wa labor activity. I was unaware that

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:40.359
<v Speaker 1>it was going to take place. Well, well, of course

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I was completely unaware, but thank goodness to day with that. Please,

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal.

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 2>If your job and I'm saying anyone anywhere ms self included, Okay,

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 2>if you've been around for long enough and you know

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 2>the difference between something that is real or organic. You

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 2>have to call it out, you don't sort of run

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 2>and then turn around the next day. Otherwise there's no

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:02.240
<v Speaker 2>point in pointing out what the actual truth was. And finally,

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 2>ac DC one of the greatest, if not the greatest

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Australian band of all time. Well, they have a little

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 2>story to tell, and it is the story behind their

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 2>very name. You know the songs, oh I finally we

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 2>could play more, If only we could play more.

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I'll do it on the way home in the car.

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 2>So where did they get their name ac DC? It

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 2>turns out they got it from an appliance. The founding

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:36.719
<v Speaker 2>members were brainstorming names for the band ahead of a

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 2>New Year's Eve show when their sister in law, Margaret,

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:42.319
<v Speaker 2>suggested the name ac DC, which was inspired by her

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 2>sewing machine ac Adapter. She's also the one who suggested

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 2>putting the lightning bulk in the logo. So good on

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:53.320
<v Speaker 2>your marg You're the one who changed rock and roll forever.

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Speaking off, I'll see you again on Sunday night. Have

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 2>a great weekend, ga Yankees,