1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Win three sixty League from every angle, brought 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: to you by the new Ranger Plugging Higher're joining me 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: the Great Gordon tell Us, that's been the journal Australian Buzz. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: Rod Field and Brent Ree. We've got a huge show 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: coming up. 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: We're going to talk all things DC of course, and 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: the mainly seals and the reaction from that. We've got 8 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Andrew Abdo on for our heavy Hitters segment. We're even 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: going to touch on the Paramatta eels are zero from four. 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: But we've got breaking news, Buzz, what have you got 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: for us? 12 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, big story break. 13 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 4: Late this afternoon, the NRL have been stung into action 14 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 4: after a wild weekend too much for our play in 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 4: their opinion, an email from Graham Andersin there's the back 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 4: page of the Telegraph tomorrow. Graham Andersley has emailed all 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: seventeen clubs this afternoon, late this afternoon and said that 18 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 4: from here on high tackles will be instant Sinbin and 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 4: they have found four instances from last weekend tackle that 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: involved Ricky from the Broncos, Blue Way from the West Tigers, 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: Mannie the shot on the ground and Gilbert they've identified 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 4: days said the referees and the bunker got them all wrong. 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: So they are meaning they got it wrong. 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: There are meaning that all four of these should have 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: been sent for ten minutes in the bin. 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 2: And Gordy, what do you think. 27 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 5: As soft as the tackles are, I like it just 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 5: to protect the ball carry. I always say, if you're 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 5: running the ball, you should have no fear that your 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 5: head is ever going to get hit. So I like 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 5: the rules because those tackles actually do haveur. 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 6: What are you screwing your face up? Just read Marney 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 6: one thinking there's not too much in that one. To 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 6: be honest, I don't think. I don't even know if 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 6: you hit him in the head. The other three I 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 6: agree with thorough head contact. Yeah, I'm not sure he 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 6: should be going there now. 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: Because Buzz today you were you wrote a big article 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: back page Daily Telegraph Monday's Buzz and you were saying 40 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: that Reid Marney is a liability. 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not saying he became a liability with that. 42 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: I think he became a liability last year in a 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 4: semi final against Manly when he involved himself an incident 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: with Reuben Garrett. 45 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: They'll leaning twenty two to ten. It changed the course. 46 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: Of the game, and if that hadn't happened, Canterbury would 47 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 4: have advanced. 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: It is a shocking incident. 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: A player lying on the ground totally unprotected. Understand Marny's 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: got to get to the scene and stop him from 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: getting up or whatever. 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: See that left arm for arm attack. 53 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: Him in the head. 54 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 6: Buzz. 55 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: If you think that's all right, you'll have no idea. 56 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 6: Buzz. I acknowledge. I think it's a cheap shot by him, 57 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 6: but I don't think it's as severe as the other three. 58 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 6: And you know what, you agrees with me a Match 59 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 6: Review committee because only gave him a grade one for that. 60 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: Well, I tell you who all the others got. 61 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 6: Grade too, So they agree with me that it wasn't 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 6: as bad as the other three. 63 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: The Match Review Committee might have put Demitrio and some 64 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 4: new people on that panel. 65 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: They stuffed that up. 66 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: I can tell you that. 67 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 4: Top officials at the NRL were absolutely shocked that Reid 68 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: Marney is not at least setting out one week for 69 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: that really cheap shot. 70 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I don't listen. I think it was 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: stupid and silly. 72 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 6: I don't disagree. 73 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: I think I think read further to your point, I 74 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: think he's improved this year. I thought last year he 75 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: got a bit out of hand, and I from the 76 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: outside looking in, I believe that that the dogs have 77 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: pulled him up and said that you've got to be 78 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: better because it can cost them in big games, like 79 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: you said in the semi final, and he did do 80 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: it too often last year. I think he's improved. This 81 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: incident right here, I yeah, stupid. Shouldn't have done it. 82 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: It was he called it, some people calling it a 83 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: dog act, but I didn't think it was actually that bad. 84 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 7: With you, I think, look, I think it's in the rules. 85 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 5: The only thing is that he'd gotten contact with it 86 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 5: is because otherwise it's a voluntary tackle. 87 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: We might as well all give up. 88 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 5: No no, no, no, you can't. You should have got 89 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 5: him in the head. But you're allowed to dive on someone. 90 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 5: If they're laying there, it's their job to get up 91 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 5: and try to actually think. 92 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: About the bus. 93 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 4: It's about time some senior players in our game called 94 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: out what Reid Marney did the other night. 95 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: This game is tough enough. 96 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: And we get all that hard. We're not saying he's 97 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: shown well. 98 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 5: They put a kick in the corner then and the 99 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 5: wing he just dives on it and sits there where 100 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: if you've put a great chase and you should be 101 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 5: allowed to drive him back in the goal. 102 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 6: Confusing the two points. No one's disputing that's the cheap shot, 103 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 6: that's unnecessary. It's not he. 104 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: Should unnecessary contact with the head. 105 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 6: But the contact of the head in that case is minimal, minimal. 106 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 6: You went on the receiving at it's a great world 107 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 6: because the contact was a bit of all. As opposed, 108 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 6: I'm saying. 109 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: To you that the Match Review Committee got it hopelessly wrong. 110 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Well, there wasn't just read money. There was a number 111 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: of incidents. So let's check out actually the memo if 112 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: we can get it up. I want to have a 113 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: look at the memo that was sent to the clubs today. Now, 114 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: on four occasions, I'll skip the first bit and i'll 115 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: get to the main point. On four occasions, the symbim 116 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: was not used used for incidents involving direct force of 117 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: contact with the headneck of opponents. The lack of appropriate 118 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: on field action in these cases should not be seen 119 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: as a precedent for future similar incidents. 120 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: So they are taking accountability here, the NERL and they 121 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: have got it wrong, But. 122 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Whose fault is it? Like this is a pretty big admission. 123 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: We don't see the Nterrol do this too often. 124 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 4: I'm really praised and I applaud them for it because 125 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: I've been banging on all weekend about lack of transparency, 126 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 4: in the fact they bilished Graham Ansley's Monday briefing, They've 127 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: stopped announcing whose referee in games each week, They've gagged 128 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: all the coaches that they've come out today and said, look, 129 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: our officials this weekend weren't good enough. They're not koalas. 130 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: We're not going to protect them any long ago. 131 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: Is that what they said? 132 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: Well, they didn't use those words, but I'm saying they're 133 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: not species, they're. 134 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: No longer a protected but just okay, and. 135 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: Good on them for doing it. 136 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: I rate it. 137 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: I think it's great by the But you know when players, 138 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: when we don't play well, or if we don't perform 139 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: well on the show and we're not doing our job, 140 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: we normally pay the price for that. Is that going 141 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: to be the case with the referees and officials? 142 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: Will they be still down? Is they going to be told? 143 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 4: When I'm told and I spoke wready about this this 144 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 4: half and when we followed, the story is that at 145 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: least two referees will be stilled down this week over 146 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: lack of action. 147 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 7: Were they all penalties? They were? 148 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: And that's the problem, guys, And we speak about all 149 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: the time. 150 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: You're consistency some games. 151 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 5: It's been immediately, but they are all different referees, right, 152 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 5: But the one thing that should be consistent is the bunker. 153 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 6: Well, the bunker's coming on all them, Gordy, I think 154 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 6: that's a that's a album for both the bunker and 155 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 6: the referee on the field. I mean, the referee in 156 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 6: the field in the first instance has seen that, but 157 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 6: when they send it to the bunker or the bunker 158 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 6: of reviews it, the bunker's in a position to dictate 159 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 6: whether that's a sinding or not, and they haven't. So 160 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 6: I actually put more blame on the bunker because they. 161 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 2: They are supposed to be a security bunket for the referees. 162 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 7: You know, it's it's quick. 163 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: The rest are going to make mistakes. 164 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: So when you got the high definition, the four K, 165 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: the stop frame three of three, you're entitled. 166 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: To get it right, bleedingly of it. You're really passionate. 167 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: I really am. 168 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: I hate instance like the Marny one, and I want 169 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: to say something about Read Marnie, and I mean this. 170 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: I think he's a very very good bloke. He's a 171 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: decent human being. When Talakai got knocked out the other day, 172 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 4: the first man to go and check on make sure 173 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: he's okay was Read Marnie. I bumped him in a 174 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: restaurant in the gold Coase last year at Kira came 175 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: over to the table. 176 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: He started chatting. 177 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: A more decent, polite young man you would not meet. 178 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: And something that happens when he runs onto that football 179 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: field triggers white line fever. You know what, And I 180 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: know even you guys can say whatever you want. I 181 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: know there is concern that you. 182 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: Said it. 183 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: You said it last year as well. There is concern 184 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: stepping the market at some stage. 185 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 5: We spoke about it on the MS. He would have 186 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 5: got under my skin. So is he putting me off 187 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 5: my game? So that's the balance between Reid Marney getting 188 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 5: the opposition off there off their game. But just as 189 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 5: long as he doesn't penalize outside by giving away too 190 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 5: many penalties. 191 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: Exactly right, And you're not wrong in what you're saying, 192 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: But you know sometimes with footy players, Mick inn this 193 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: was a bit like it himself, Like it actually brings 194 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: the best out of you with your performances. 195 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: That's the way he can play. It's your style. 196 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying you would have you 197 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: missing the point. You're missing the point. He's a nigga, right, 198 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: he gets under this. Does he takes it wrong? 199 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: With that? He takes allowed you are? Do you want 200 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: to host this shad? 201 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: Do you want to swap seats? 202 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: You've got your own podcast now you're taking out of 203 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: the world. You can't anyway. 204 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like I get it right, but sometimes there's 205 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: certain players that play a certain way. Definitely needs to 206 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: pull it in and ruin in because it's going to end. 207 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: Up impacting his team. 208 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: So and the Bulldogs know that because I think they've 209 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: been onto him in the in the in the off season. 210 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: On the weekend wasn't good enough. 211 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: So I think you're right, But also you know, you 212 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: don't want to just throw him, you know into the Fire's. 213 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: Genuine niggle is is gunsmanship and and you do try 214 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 4: and roll your opponent every night because we've been acting 215 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: like a judiciary to night let's keep going. 216 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: Time for the armchair rulings. Do we agree with the 217 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: Moses Leota try or no? Try against the south side 218 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: Rabbit is a very critical moment in this game. They 219 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: were coming on fast. A lot of people believe this 220 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: was a try. 221 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 6: This was a de I mean, I can't believe anyone. Well, 222 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 6: there's no separation. 223 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 5: Sitting on the couch watching it with the kids. I 224 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 5: thought he loses it to the side. 225 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 6: But I don't think. I don't think it leaves his arm. 226 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 6: I think it's a dead set. Try. Try. 227 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 3: Every day of the week, you're saying try, yes, definitely try. 228 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: I think a problem the game has at the moment. 229 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 4: To speed the process up, they're making discounts. 230 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: Try. 231 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 7: Gordy, No, it wasn't. I didn't read about it. 232 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 4: I'm not, but can you let me opinion to speak 233 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 4: the process up, which we all wanted. With the Bunker, 234 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: they were painfully slow. I think they've looked at this too. 235 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: Let's have a look at this one. This is this 236 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: is the one. Let's see if he gets this, we're 237 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: going back to the other one. 238 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 6: They Dad said, looked at this so many times. I 239 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 6: can't see how they could not have given this a try. 240 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: Well, you know why because they went up and they 241 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: had to. 242 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: And again we know that if they go up, no try, 243 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: there has to be no doubt whatsoever. This is this angle. 244 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: He might show a little bit better. Let's see, I 245 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: there's any separate we're going back and they're. 246 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 2: Not loving me in there. 247 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 7: It just looks like the bounds. 248 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: That's when you see that when fifty. 249 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 6: Watch it, watch handle the ball, handle the ball, hand 250 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 6: on the ball, handle. 251 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: The ball, and you know what, you know it's a 252 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: bad carry. 253 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 7: He didn't have his stomach around the ball. 254 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: Guys with this position here, referees go upstairs because they 255 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: don't know. 256 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: That's why they're going up there. But so you can't blindly. 257 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: Support them just because they've said no try that they 258 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: really don't know. 259 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 5: And that's when remember when they'd send it up and 260 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 5: we say we'll make a decision, you've got to give 261 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 5: your opinion. So when they're happy with what we want, 262 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 5: because when they send it up, we go is it 263 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 5: a try? 264 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 7: And they've got to send it up there with their opinion. 265 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 6: I was happy that they got he I was happy 266 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 6: with them. If they had no idea send it up 267 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 6: to the video. It didn't lose in the game, are 268 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 6: you right? But it should have been. 269 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: What about Cobo's foot on the line? This was another 270 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: according thoughts on this one was and look right there, 271 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: that's a shocker. 272 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 7: What I can understand touching it, I can understand. I 273 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 7: could understand that a pair of white nikes. But when 274 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 7: he's got the bright orange. 275 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: You know that touch charge I direct, It'll be one 276 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 4: of the two is going again. 277 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: At least you know that. 278 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: The score I think at that stage was ten eight 279 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 4: or twelve eight. 280 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: It was close. 281 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: They get to set a six on the line, the 282 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: Dolphins could have scored. Broncos get the ball and go 283 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: up the other end score. 284 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: It's a game changing blunder. Mysterious. He was looking right, 285 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: he was Josh. 286 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: He only fined for touching the referee. What was our 287 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: thoughts on the one. 288 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 6: I'm surprised by this break. I think that that warrants 289 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 6: the suspension. You cannot touch referee the same God and 290 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 6: you cannot touch referee. 291 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 7: I know what you're saying, but sometimes you. 292 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 6: Don't touch referees. I know he didn't mean that it 293 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 6: was me nasty or he wasn't being but what do 294 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 6: you want to happen from that. Give him a week 295 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 6: if you want to give him a week, can't do that. 296 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 5: What did he say, I cannot touch? What did he say? 297 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 5: Did he say, I'm sorry, sir, sorry mate? 298 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 6: Well clearly didn't you. 299 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: Know what a concerning act letter? Nothing else concerning Well, 300 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: that's what. 301 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 7: It looks like. He said. 302 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: You want him kicked out of the game for nothing. 303 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: Let's be you can't look at take every instance for 304 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: what it is. Look look at what he's look at 305 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: him walking up to Come on. 306 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 6: I don't care referees. I'm sorry, but you can't touch 307 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 6: the referee. 308 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 3: You're having a bad shoud. 309 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 6: You are having bad I don't agree with you. Please? 310 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: Who's getting the daily endpoints of the moment? 311 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: My god, he's a miling pro. 312 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: The DCE drama has exploded, with the manly Skipper calling 313 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: out what he described as a smear campaign design to 314 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: bring him down, just moments after their inspirational win over 315 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: the Heels. Dalley Cherry Evans lit the fuse and then 316 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: stood back big Day to day, it's hard to avoid 317 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: this one with DC the two minutes to talk of 318 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: the town. But it is his first game. How will 319 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: he play how will the crowd respond? Much anticipation about. 320 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 6: This watch and listen to the welcome for Manly and 321 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 6: DCEE at. 322 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 5: The head of the queue in game number three, one 323 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 5: hundred and thirty three. 324 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 8: Honestly, I was really emotional today when I heard the 325 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 8: Hill supporting me. The reception I got today, it made 326 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 8: me really proud to be the captain of Manley. 327 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: The one thing that I see a challenge for Daily 328 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: and Manley is the next four to six weeks because 329 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: this story is not going to go away. 330 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 8: Get this decision isn't going to make everyone happy, and 331 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 8: I've owned that from the start. But I feel like 332 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 8: it could have ended pretty quickly early in the week, 333 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 8: but it obviously didn't, which means conversations were continuing to 334 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 8: happen outside of the ones happening between the club and I. 335 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 8: So that's where I felt like I got a bit nasty. 336 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: And a bit ugly. 337 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 6: Whereas coming from. 338 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 8: I know who it's coming from and it's not appropriate 339 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 8: to talk about it. You guys obviously know where it's 340 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 8: coming from as well, But I'm old enough and big 341 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 8: enough to handle it. 342 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: And I asked you, do you think the media has 343 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: been bed stuff to rot. 344 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, by whom I'm not sure, or maybe I am. 345 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 6: Then I'm not telling. 346 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 8: Do you have a time one when you expect it? 347 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 8: I don't know what's going to annoy is. I'm really 348 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 8: sorry about that. 349 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: I really am. 350 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 8: That's where the part I understand circulation is going to continue. 351 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: But I hope you can understand. 352 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 8: That's why I've given the club time to move on 353 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 8: in their direction and then it will allow me freedom 354 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 8: to do my thing in the background. So that's why 355 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 8: it is the way it is. I can take my time. 356 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: What a week it was last week for the mainly 357 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: seageles in their main man Dally Cherry Evans, and he handed. 358 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: It with all class on the field even before the game. 359 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: Interviewed him live on the Sunday Ticket and it was 360 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: very graceful of him to give us his time considering 361 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: the circumstances. Then he's gone out there and played how 362 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: we expected him to play, well, how I expected him 363 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: to play. Great win for the manly Seagulls. But then 364 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: holds that press conference. Well, he does the press conference 365 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: after the match and says that there is a smear 366 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: campaign against him and directed it at someone who is 367 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: he directing it at well, I. 368 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 6: Think we all suspect he's directing it at the CEO, 369 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 6: Tony Mestrov. I think that's the assumption. Assumption most of 370 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 6: us are made, and there's obviously a split in that club. 371 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 6: They've talked about no animosity from the start, and clearly 372 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 6: Day had plenty of animosity. That became pretty clear after 373 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 6: that game because he made a point of raising that 374 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 6: whole concept of the smear campaign. He mentioned it on 375 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 6: radio interviews straight after the game. He mentioned the press 376 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 6: conference he mentioned on Fox. I mean, he wanted to 377 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 6: make it pretty clear that he wasn't happy with the 378 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 6: events of the week. And you know, I think all 379 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 6: of us to shoot that he's referring to Tony. 380 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 4: He was referring to Tony Meschov. But I do want 381 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: to say this, I don't think he smeared him at all. 382 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 4: Do what he did, and we just held the story up. 383 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 4: He lied to me, Tony Meschov understandably to protect Dally 384 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 4: Cherry Evans. I rang him two weeks ago and I said, MESSI, 385 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 4: there's a lot of mail around the Cherry Evans and 386 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 4: you are going to part company at the end of 387 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: the year. And we now know that the deal was 388 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: done in December last year. He said to me when 389 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 4: I rang him, and I said, mate, you told me 390 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: everything was sweet, you know, and everything he said I 391 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 4: had to, He said, I gave Cherry Evans my word 392 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 4: that this would stay in the vault until we're all 393 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: comfortable about a release and letting the fans know. He said, quite. 394 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 4: I just couldn't dog him, was the words he used 395 00:17:59,200 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 4: to me. 396 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 5: And you know what I said, not do a press 397 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 5: conference with the team, because then it wouldn't be if 398 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 5: they both sat there. 399 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but just let me finish this, he I think, 400 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: Mestrov and where you don't like being lied to, Mestrov 401 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: did the honorable thing by Cherry Evans, who has accused 402 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 4: him of this smear campaign, by protecting him. He was 403 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 4: concerned about the effect on the football team after a 404 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 4: bright start. He was concerned and he might have misread 405 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 4: it now of the fan backlash. We didn't know if 406 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 4: Che's was going to get burned yesterday or not, which 407 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 4: he didn't. 408 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: So the smear campaign is news to me. 409 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 6: I think he was naive, dully, or at least his 410 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 6: camp were buzzed when they spoke abou Dully said, I 411 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 6: thought I'd fund up, talk about it and will be 412 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 6: gone within a couple of days. And I think that 413 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 6: was just naive because the club was always going to respond, 414 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 6: because the club had to defend itself in that situation, 415 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 6: and that's what led to some of the stories that 416 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 6: came out. So, you know, I appreciate Daly maybe thought 417 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 6: that he could he could front the media that was 418 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 6: never going to happen and it'll be over. But whoever 419 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 6: was telling him that was what would happen was completely 420 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 6: naive about the way the media works. 421 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 7: I've got a bit of sense that his manager's ringing 422 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 7: anybody that'll listen. 423 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 4: I know a couple of journeys who are quite powerful 424 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 4: figures who have received very good briefings from the Cherry 425 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 4: Evans camp. 426 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 3: To make sure they're okay, that's okay. 427 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, this little pr game is coming 428 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: from both sides. 429 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: Is it actually is? 430 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, they're kind of accused of 431 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: us of defending the club. And then there's, like you said, 432 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: there's other journalists that are in the in the DC 433 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: camp and but but that brings me back to this, 434 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: what is the actual smear though, What is he What 435 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: is he not happy about? With Mestrov? There has to 436 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: be something is it? Does it date back a long time? 437 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: Has it just had and over the negotiations? 438 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 7: Well? 439 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: Why is it? Why has it gotten so bad? 440 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 6: I mean, there's a couple's some stories that came out 441 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 6: during the week break that I'm sure he was not 442 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 6: happy about. One was that he asked for a release. 443 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 6: I think it was the start of twenty twenty four, 444 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 6: which hadn't come out before. As far as it's fact, 445 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 6: as far. 446 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: That's true, if he asked for a release, how is 447 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: it a smear campaign? 448 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 6: Well, that's his view, it's a smear kit, and I 449 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 6: think most people the other one was, Well, the other 450 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 6: one was it's about money. You know, this was this 451 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 6: perception that's come out that his camp wanted a million, 452 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 6: a million, wine, a million two for him to stay there. 453 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 6: And I think there's a perception, maybe from Daily at least, 454 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 6: that it got painted as though this was maybe about money. Now, 455 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 6: you know, someone tried to tell me today that Cherry's 456 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 6: camp never discussed money with Manly. That's ridiculous. What agent 457 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 6: or agency doesn't talk to a club about what sort 458 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 6: of part figure that the player's worth, isn't it That's 459 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 6: the first one I would have thought it was, so 460 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 6: how many years and how much money it's It was 461 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 6: naive to think the club wouldn't defend its of this 462 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 6: week because I think they had to because the supporters 463 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 6: wanted answers. I'm sure there's sponsors wanted answers about how 464 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 6: this happened. They had to get on the front foot 465 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 6: and they had to explain what happened, and in a 466 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 6: way that's potentially reflected badly on dailier times. 467 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: Now, they got the win, and they did it with 468 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: their in crews control. Great win, especially given the circumstances. 469 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: We know that, but moving forward, with this animosity still 470 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: brewing at the club and we're talking about a captain 471 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: and the CEO, there's still concerns that they. 472 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: Could be derailed at some point. 473 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 5: DC needs to take you senior players out and have 474 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 5: a beer in a steak and talk to him because 475 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 5: the way Jake's like the loudest voice through the whole 476 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 5: week was me is Jacob, Well, I wouldn't do it, 477 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 5: and then like he come, And that's the stake And 478 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 5: if you're going to put anybody up on a pedestal 479 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 5: at Manly. 480 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 7: Over the last ten years, it's Jake Tavoievitch. 481 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 5: No one would ever say a bad word about him, 482 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 5: and it's like he is the man. He is the 483 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 5: Steve Mensis of that organization. So when he come out, 484 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 5: I think that's the loudest voice and he needs to 485 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 5: get him back on side. 486 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 4: Want to give you another example of Jake's brother Tom, 487 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: And look, I haven't spoken to Tom for some time, 488 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 4: but I just wanted to bring up when he was 489 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: crooked last year and or the year before, missed a 490 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: number of games. You know, the logo meant to him 491 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 4: and the club and the team. He felt that uncomfortable. 492 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 4: He went to Mestrov and he went to Penn and 493 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: say take my contract money back. He offered up about 494 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 4: four hundred thousand dollars back to the club. 495 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: Because and you know what. 496 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: It just shows in this climate when we've got to 497 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 4: stink about whether seven fifty million. I just wanted people 498 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: to know what that jersey means to the. 499 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 5: Trouble of its brothers. It's not for money, because I 500 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 5: come to work for money. Everybody goes to do their 501 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 5: job for money. 502 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 6: The different people, right I mean Daly's always been and 503 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 6: people close to Dalla will tell you Daly's priority in 504 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 6: his football career is to set up his family and 505 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 6: set up set himself up right for life after footy. 506 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 6: Whilst the Druivits boys. I think the other part they've 507 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 6: grown up with the football club. It means everything to them, 508 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 6: so they coming it from I understand they're coming from 509 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 6: different angles. And I'm not going to criticize Daily for 510 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 6: doing what's best for him because I said Dylan Brown 511 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 6: should take the money and offer a Newcastle, so I'm 512 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 6: not going to criticize him for that, but I just 513 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 6: think the way he handled it, I think later in 514 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 6: life he'll regret the way this week's played out. 515 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're like going back to that point 516 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: about that announcement, Like I still can't believe that they 517 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: would think the team around DC and DC himself that 518 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: he could make that announcement on TV and think that 519 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to be a big deal, it was 520 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: going to go away. 521 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: It only made it God and make the best point 522 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: he should have had a club. Parlo one, Mestra, Sea 523 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: Bowlt and Pen been sitting at a long desh. 524 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 5: After ten years and the money that you've got with 525 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: that relationship, and it's not fifteen years we're going. 526 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 7: To and it's hard to do. Buzz. 527 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 5: I'm sitting here as a fifty year old. But sometimes 528 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 5: it's not the CEO, it's the club. It's the many organization. 529 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 5: What nineteen forty seven it started. That's who you represent. 530 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 5: You don't represent the CEO or the owner. That's who 531 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 5: you run out for. You run out for all the 532 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 5: past players and every manly fan that's ever gone to 533 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 5: support this great team. And that's who you go and 534 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 5: you talk to. And it's hard to put that cap on. 535 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: All right. 536 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: The battle is on still to security services for next 537 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: year and beyond. 538 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: Now. 539 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: The big news last week in regards to that was 540 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: Bulldogs pulling out of the race. Gus called saying that 541 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: they are not. Are you sure? Do you think you 542 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: know the great gas? 543 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: You know? 544 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 4: He said about eight weeks ago they're pulling out a 545 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 4: big LEO Thompson from Newcastle. 546 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 7: But the deal might have been done, but he said 547 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 7: he was probably out. 548 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: Three weeks later he signed I believe us. Then I've 549 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: dealt with Gusts for a long period of time. 550 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 7: Back on the bus, you're buying. 551 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 3: I'm on the bus with that football sensation. I don't 552 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: have a problem with Gus at all. 553 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: But you say, but you're saying that you don't want 554 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: too so you're going to. 555 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 4: Attack me now that was attacking Los Gus for sneaks. 556 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: Are you're going to be You're going to He's the 557 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: out of the race. So do you know I just 558 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: explained you're saying it's a fiver. I'm not saying it's 559 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: a fever. You're saying I'm saying. 560 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 4: He often does strange things to throw other parties off. 561 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 2: You haven't answer what you're saying. But what do you 562 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: think I don't need to choose? What are you obsessed 563 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: with that? Because it's all the one in kit through 564 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: and holidays in his house? 565 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: You want that withdraw a defamation. 566 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 2: I did not stay it. It's okay if you did. 567 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: It's a nice place, so I'll send you my air 568 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: B and B. 569 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: I think it's going to come down to the Roosters 570 00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: and Red Cliff. 571 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 6: That's my belief. 572 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: Do you guys agree with that? 573 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 6: Have you heard anything on that? 574 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: Buzz? 575 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: I agree, But I think the roosters are a lot 576 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: of on favorites. 577 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 7: And Bulldogs aren't out of the race. 578 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying I believe the Bulldogs pulled out 579 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: of the race because they thought the Rusters had already 580 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: secured his services. 581 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: That's what I believe in it. 582 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: Who knows they may come back into it if this 583 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: drags on, because DC is saying that he's not going 584 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: to make a decision anytime, anytime soon. But this brings 585 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: me to you ready surely like he can't drag this 586 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: on all year. He can't not make a decision, or 587 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: well he can, but it's going to impact when no 588 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: one's going to stop talking about it. 589 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 6: Well yeah, well, well it'll be a constant debate and 590 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 6: discussion point about where he's going to end up. But 591 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 6: you know, the obviously there's the russ and Dolphins in 592 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 6: the mix. They've got to keep money aside from, which 593 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 6: makes every team can't just keep a mind dollars aside 594 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 6: for him, which makes the recruitment difficult moving forward unless 595 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 6: they know. Unless one of them knows it's in their direction, 596 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 6: you'd be happy to do it, but it makes it 597 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 6: really difficult if you want to keep a million dollars 598 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 6: a side with Daly for next year. That's really difficult 599 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 6: in the current environment unless you're going to move players 600 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 6: at the end of the year to fit him in, 601 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 6: which is the other option for those clubs. But they 602 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 6: both got money up their sleeve. Break We know that 603 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 6: RWIS has kept money for Joey Marnhu. The Dolphins got 604 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 6: money aside as well, so they do have money at 605 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 6: the moment. 606 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: But and there's no harves on the market as such 607 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: of that quality, so they but not that quality. Now, 608 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: he's not that easy good player. It's not that and 609 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: he probably doesn't demand one point one. 610 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 4: And just back to that, I got told today confirmation 611 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 4: how early Manly knew that Manly made their first approach 612 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 4: too late last year. 613 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: Really so this hasn't been a reaction. 614 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: He could contribute to this. 615 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: But this is this is the thing we're all kind 616 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: of saying, the club here, the player there, if they 617 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: contacted Fog, you all had a conversation when you all 618 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: had eyes on Fog and he at that point and 619 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: Dalishair Evans Camp gets wind of that, that that that 620 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: could also be a reason why we are where we 621 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: are here and why he's so pissed off now. 622 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 4: But DC, he said to him I'm not staying. I'm 623 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: going after DC after that last year. 624 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, well they had to have a place, They had 625 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 5: a right when he asked for a release. 626 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 7: Seriously, like Timmins that didn't want to be there, all right. 627 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: Stick around journoes. 628 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: This Sunday, tim Zu squares off with highly fancied American 629 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: Joey Spencer. This is a must win five for Zoo 630 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: and the only place you can catch 631 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 2: All the action is on main event