1
00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,480
Speaker 1: It fits in with Kate podcast.

2
00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,520
Speaker 2: One's ever left you a note? Maybe they had a

3
00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,240
Speaker 2: bit of a crush on you and thought I might

4
00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:15,560
Speaker 2: write and no to remember we make cam Chrissy Swan nine.

5
00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,040
Speaker 2: And he decided when he was at the park one day,

6
00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,200
Speaker 2: he saw this really attractive girl get out of the car,

7
00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,520
Speaker 2: so he decided to leave a note. He wrote on

8
00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,560
Speaker 2: a piece of paper and put it under her windscreen wiper,

9
00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,600
Speaker 2: and it said, this is not a fine but you.

10
00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:36,000
Speaker 1: Are, Oh dear, that's too much and it's not the

11
00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,839
Speaker 1: idea of a handwritten note. It's so old fashioned.

12
00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,680
Speaker 3: And I just want to know, whip does a count

13
00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,320
Speaker 3: the note that you left me at work?

14
00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,840
Speaker 1: That just said, Swanny, can I borrow a hundred bucks?

15
00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,120
Speaker 1: That's the same thing.

16
00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,200
Speaker 2: Well, that was a sort of a more of It

17
00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,800
Speaker 2: was definitely love, more of a trust exercise. Okay, sure sure,

18
00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,560
Speaker 2: And unfortunately you have brought it up on here, so

19
00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,280
Speaker 2: that failed. Thanks for the hunding. Let's move on to

20
00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,240
Speaker 2: a girl by the name of Steph. She was waiting

21
00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,960
Speaker 2: at the airport. And you know when you're at the

22
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,880
Speaker 2: airport and you see the captain walk past, and he's

23
00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,760
Speaker 2: got his four stripes on his lapel, and he's he's

24
00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,560
Speaker 2: ready to go, and the equivalent.

25
00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,520
Speaker 3: Of seeing the person that you're that you've gone to

26
00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,200
Speaker 3: see in concert getting ready to get on the stage.

27
00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,400
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, a magical unicorn.

28
00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,400
Speaker 2: And when there's so many people at a busy airport

29
00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,720
Speaker 2: and then you see the man and he's in uniform,

30
00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,160
Speaker 2: it's like he's controlling the world and you know that

31
00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,200
Speaker 2: you're about to put your life in that man's hands,

32
00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,080
Speaker 2: and you love it.

33
00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:35,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

34
00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,360
Speaker 5: You you react to pilots a lot different to normal people, though,

35
00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,479
Speaker 5: with because you have a fear of flying. So you

36
00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,360
Speaker 5: go over there basically on your knees, saying, is the

37
00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,000
Speaker 5: plane all right?

38
00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,280
Speaker 4: What's the weather?

39
00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,720
Speaker 2: Life that is not at all?

40
00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,760
Speaker 1: Are you drunk? Did you sleep last night? All that

41
00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,400
Speaker 1: sort of stuff.

42
00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, on any meds. What's going on in your life?

43
00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,600
Speaker 2: You have in your relationship?

44
00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,520
Speaker 1: You are going to this bag, let's go.

45
00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,840
Speaker 2: So Steph was waiting at the airport and she saw

46
00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,400
Speaker 2: this pilot walk past. Now that was one thing, but

47
00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,480
Speaker 2: for the pilot to then notice her was another thing.

48
00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,280
Speaker 2: He wandered off and in that time grabbed a pen

49
00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,600
Speaker 2: and a napkin, and he wrote something on a piece

50
00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,800
Speaker 2: of paper on that napkin, and then wandered back past

51
00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,120
Speaker 2: Steph and handed it to her without a word.

52
00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,440
Speaker 1: It's so poetic. Read it out, read it out we go.

53
00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,880
Speaker 2: He wrote, I have seen the whole world and you

54
00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,440
Speaker 2: are the most beautiful human in it.

55
00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,920
Speaker 4: What is it?

56
00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,000
Speaker 1: Human?

57
00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:40,600
Speaker 4: Miss?

58
00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:40,840
Speaker 5: Read?

59
00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:41,680
Speaker 4: Woman in it?

60
00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,840
Speaker 1: We're going to go again on that.

61
00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,359
Speaker 2: Absolute human means like I could go either way. I'm

62
00:02:50,400 --> 00:03:00,359
Speaker 2: going again, robots. I have seen the whole world and

63
00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,320
Speaker 2: you are the most beautiful woman in it. Oh my god.

64
00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,520
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if this is going to be

65
00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,120
Speaker 3: a popular opinion, but I love this.

66
00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,760
Speaker 2: Sort of It's divided a few people saying that's unprofessional.

67
00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,519
Speaker 4: We shouldn't do that. You're in a position of power.

68
00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,120
Speaker 4: Shut up.

69
00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,800
Speaker 1: Oh, he's just a man and she's just a woman.

70
00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,080
Speaker 2: He's a man on a mission, he flies planes, and

71
00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,440
Speaker 2: he loves women.

72
00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,120
Speaker 3: Could I He didn't leave any details, which means that

73
00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,919
Speaker 3: he's also married with four kids.

74
00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:28,519
Speaker 4: Matter.

75
00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,920
Speaker 1: The compliment remains, and.

76
00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,600
Speaker 2: I'd like to know too, Swanny, if you're not leaving

77
00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,560
Speaker 2: a number or making a further advance to stay in

78
00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,640
Speaker 2: touch with that woman. How many times has he written

79
00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,400
Speaker 2: that see.

80
00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,920
Speaker 5: This is the other thing that I want to ask, right,

81
00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,480
Speaker 5: And I immediately think of when I think of a pilot,

82
00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,000
Speaker 5: I think of Leonardo DiCaprio and Cashmi. If you can,

83
00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,440
Speaker 5: and why can't you? You don't have to be a pilot, right,

84
00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,000
Speaker 5: Why can't you hang out at airports with the uniform

85
00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,600
Speaker 5: on and you just pick up women at airports?

86
00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,240
Speaker 4: Why can't you do that?

87
00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,920
Speaker 2: So that's sex by deception, Yes it is, and that

88
00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,400
Speaker 2: should only be used in workplaces and not in public,

89
00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,400
Speaker 2: not in public transport situations.

90
00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,240
Speaker 3: Well, look, I like that there was no I like

91
00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,000
Speaker 3: that there was no follow up, that there was no

92
00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,840
Speaker 3: you know, sort of you know, unwritten sentence of you

93
00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,760
Speaker 3: at the most beautiful women in the world and I

94
00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,080
Speaker 3: would like to sleep with you. It was almost like

95
00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,880
Speaker 3: a community service announcement. That's something that she needs to know.

96
00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,200
Speaker 3: Just think it's beautiful. And also have you seen her?

97
00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,479
Speaker 3: I think he might be right.

98
00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's spot on. Mattie's got a story, producer, Maddie,

99
00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,520
Speaker 2: what's your story?

100
00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,680
Speaker 5: I was at a cafe recently and I ordered my

101
00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,480
Speaker 5: cappuccino and when it came out, it had single question

102
00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,840
Speaker 5: mark written in the latte arts.

103
00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,080
Speaker 1: What is going on with you? What juju do you have?

104
00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,960
Speaker 3: We did a Phona about you know, has a stranger

105
00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:02,960
Speaker 3: approached you and.

106
00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,680
Speaker 1: You had a story that's what's going on. I don't know,

107
00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:06,680
Speaker 1: because I remember.

108
00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,640
Speaker 2: I told you about the cafe that we go to,

109
00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,479
Speaker 2: the local one. He started writing on he would do

110
00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,279
Speaker 2: a love heart. He would just draw a love heart

111
00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,760
Speaker 2: on the top of Lisa's coffee cup. And then for

112
00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,799
Speaker 2: our neighbor, he dropped his phone number on the top.

113
00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,520
Speaker 2: He wrote his number on the plastic lid on top

114
00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,320
Speaker 2: of the coffee. Yeah, and as she left her husband

115
00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,400
Speaker 2: and three kids and they've hooked up and she's now

116
00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:35,719
Speaker 2: a qualified barrista. Oh you're no. Why extended there, Maddie?

117
00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,600
Speaker 2: What did you say to this guy? Was he hot?

118
00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,479
Speaker 4: I quietly left.

119
00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,279
Speaker 1: I felt very awkward A relationship you engaged.

120
00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I was single, I think it's a great

121
00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:46,640
Speaker 4: way to pick up.

122
00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,159
Speaker 2: But you're not married, so I mean there's still a

123
00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,120
Speaker 2: bit of gray area and some room to move before

124
00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,719
Speaker 2: you do get married.

125
00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they're negative.

126
00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,719
Speaker 5: That note that you received from that woman saying to

127
00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,520
Speaker 5: be the banks down court in March twenty.

128
00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:08,240
Speaker 1: Eight, it's more forceful.

129
00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:14,360
Speaker 4: Hand wish guys. This is the Fitzian with Cape Ridgie podcast.

130
00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,800
Speaker 2: This is an important one because over the weekend and

131
00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,560
Speaker 2: it's neuro divergent week too, Hugh Van Carlmberg made a

132
00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,560
Speaker 2: very very powerful piece to camera from his Imperfect podcast Fits.

133
00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah he did. We adore this podcast.

134
00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,279
Speaker 5: On this show, they discussed mental health, the challenges that

135
00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,200
Speaker 5: we all have in life, and being vulnerable and my gosh,

136
00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,080
Speaker 5: the emotion that I had watching Hugh over the weekend.

137
00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,040
Speaker 5: He was talking about the struggles that he's faced as

138
00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,239
Speaker 5: the father of a neurodivergent child.

139
00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,000
Speaker 4: Have a listen to this.

140
00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,039
Speaker 6: Three years ago, one of our kids was diagnosed autistic.

141
00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,680
Speaker 6: I know life is unpredictable, but I never saw this coming.

142
00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,719
Speaker 6: I never anticipated that I might one day experience this

143
00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,640
Speaker 6: amount I might one day experience this amount of pain.

144
00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,120
Speaker 6: The pain of being a parent to an autistic child

145
00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,240
Speaker 6: is not the child, it's the world. The pain is

146
00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,240
Speaker 6: seeing your child standing on the sidelines, confused, distressed, and

147
00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,200
Speaker 6: left out while the other kids instinctively understand the rules

148
00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,800
Speaker 6: and the social norms. It's watching the world overwhelm them

149
00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,160
Speaker 6: and then holding them through yet another meltdown. And if

150
00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,280
Speaker 6: you've ever been in public, holding your child through their

151
00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:32,640
Speaker 6: hardest moment, feeling the weight of every stare, every whispered comment,

152
00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:38,080
Speaker 6: every judgment, You're not alone. To the strangers who see

153
00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,240
Speaker 6: a child in distress and choose to laugh for a judge,

154
00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:46,560
Speaker 6: you don't have to understand, just be kind. But to

155
00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,119
Speaker 6: the parents listening to this, carrying more than anyone knows,

156
00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,840
Speaker 6: I feel you, I feel your pain your child. Your

157
00:07:53,880 --> 00:08:00,640
Speaker 6: child is extraordinary, not despite their differences, but because of them. Obviously,

158
00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,120
Speaker 6: and even in our hardest moments, even when they cannot

159
00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,160
Speaker 6: say it, they feel your love. They know you are

160
00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,280
Speaker 6: their safe place. You are the most important thing in

161
00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,640
Speaker 6: their world, the one who never stops fighting for them.

162
00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,080
Speaker 5: Hugh Van allen Berg, you welcome to the show. First

163
00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,000
Speaker 5: of all, from the man that's hit the first six

164
00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,280
Speaker 5: onto the Prime Minister's.

165
00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,440
Speaker 4: House at Kurabilly House.

166
00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,280
Speaker 5: You to go from that to hearing what we heard

167
00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,520
Speaker 5: over the weekend. We appreciate you coming on the show.

168
00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,440
Speaker 5: It must have been very tough for you leading up

169
00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,880
Speaker 5: to that, you knowing what you're about to do and

170
00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:38,880
Speaker 5: being that vulnerable.

171
00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the first time I've listened back to it

172
00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,280
Speaker 7: since I did it. We actually did it probably about

173
00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,880
Speaker 7: three weeks ago, and now I'm back in that same

174
00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,480
Speaker 7: place again. I've never experienced anything like that. It actually

175
00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,400
Speaker 7: so I had the idea to write that letter or

176
00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,720
Speaker 7: to do something on the podcast and actually talk about

177
00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,400
Speaker 7: the struggles of being a parent of a neurodiversion child

178
00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,959
Speaker 7: in our case autism, and I come up with idea

179
00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,080
Speaker 7: in November, and it quite literally took me two months

180
00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,480
Speaker 7: to write that because I just wanted to get every

181
00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,520
Speaker 7: word but to honor that much, want to make sure

182
00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,360
Speaker 7: I get every word right and every person and parent

183
00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,240
Speaker 7: who understands his un I just really wanted to get

184
00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,280
Speaker 7: every single word right. So I took way too long

185
00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,120
Speaker 7: to write it, and then when it came into actually

186
00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,680
Speaker 7: reading out the studio, I've never felt an emotion like

187
00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,680
Speaker 7: that before. My hands are shaking for a good half

188
00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,360
Speaker 7: an hour after it. And I think, anyone out there

189
00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,560
Speaker 7: who is a parent of a neurodiversion child, you don't

190
00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,880
Speaker 7: give yourself too much time to get You don't cry

191
00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,640
Speaker 7: that much because you've got to get onto the next challenge.

192
00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,040
Speaker 7: And I just, for some reason, eight years worth of

193
00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,120
Speaker 7: tears came out in about half an hour.

194
00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,319
Speaker 2: Completely funny do you know what. What I loved about

195
00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,240
Speaker 2: it too, you knowing you personally, is that it's something

196
00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,880
Speaker 2: you hadn't shared. I mean, obviously, this is something you've

197
00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,200
Speaker 2: been dealing with for a while now and learning to

198
00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,160
Speaker 2: understand learning you know, what life is like and how

199
00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,319
Speaker 2: you move forward with things too, and the adventure that

200
00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,400
Speaker 2: you're going on. But you'd never spoken publicly about this.

201
00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wanted. It was a couple of things I

202
00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,240
Speaker 7: needed to understand it. My wife and I need to

203
00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,319
Speaker 7: understand it properly ourselves. We also needed to tell our

204
00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,000
Speaker 7: child that they were autistic and have them understand it

205
00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,120
Speaker 7: and then have them be okay with it. And then

206
00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,200
Speaker 7: I needed to understand what the autistic community, how they

207
00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,440
Speaker 7: want to be talked about, and how other parents in

208
00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,680
Speaker 7: the simile position. So it just took a long time

209
00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,560
Speaker 7: to I didn't want the process. I mean some of

210
00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,960
Speaker 7: the stuff that we go through. I mean, anyone listening

211
00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,480
Speaker 7: in the car right now who has a child who's

212
00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,600
Speaker 7: on the spectrum or ADOD or whatever it is, just

213
00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,880
Speaker 7: to acknowledge the baffle you have been through already that

214
00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,160
Speaker 7: no one knows about. Just to get out of the

215
00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,559
Speaker 7: door today now started at four this morning. Kids. Autistic

216
00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,520
Speaker 7: kids really struggle sloping when they wake up. They don't

217
00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,960
Speaker 7: get back to slope. Well that's our experience. So getting

218
00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,360
Speaker 7: our child out of the door on not much was

219
00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:05,320
Speaker 7: a bad all this morning, but I remember the horror

220
00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,120
Speaker 7: I did it really was. I want people to understand

221
00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,280
Speaker 7: that often if you see a child who you think

222
00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,440
Speaker 7: is misbehaving, before you look at the parents. In we're

223
00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,160
Speaker 7: the situation. Last year, we took our child to the

224
00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,160
Speaker 7: football the MCG and had to leave about twenty minutes

225
00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,520
Speaker 7: in because they're having such a big meltdown. And it

226
00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,520
Speaker 7: was literally in the twenty minutes into the game and

227
00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,560
Speaker 7: I was still out in the front of the stadium

228
00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,280
Speaker 7: at the MCG about half an hour of the game

229
00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,920
Speaker 7: had finished two hours later because they were on the floor,

230
00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,680
Speaker 7: they couldn't move. They were just having the biggest meltdown.

231
00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,360
Speaker 7: It was too overwhelming for them. And the amount of

232
00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,680
Speaker 7: looks I got people I had one lady you say

233
00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,720
Speaker 7: it was something like you need to sort that out

234
00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,960
Speaker 7: or as if I could just and you know, I'm

235
00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,240
Speaker 7: not angry at those people. I just I just want

236
00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,200
Speaker 7: people to know that, like, this is not a child's misbehaving,

237
00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,240
Speaker 7: This is a child who's completely overwhelmed by the world.

238
00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,760
Speaker 7: And my message in that is like, the next time

239
00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,520
Speaker 7: you're walking past the child who you think is being naughty,

240
00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,400
Speaker 7: there's a chance that are being overwhelmed and you just

241
00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,520
Speaker 7: need to just a kind book to her parents as

242
00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:02,120
Speaker 7: all a package.

243
00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. Can.

244
00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,120
Speaker 5: I want to be extremely honest with you because I've

245
00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,240
Speaker 5: done it myself growing up with my two boys and

246
00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,120
Speaker 5: watching them play forty I'm getting emotional talking about this.

247
00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,040
Speaker 5: Now you're watching you over the weekend, mate, Is that

248
00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,959
Speaker 5: you really struck a chord with me? Because I was

249
00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,880
Speaker 5: There's boys that have played in my in my junior

250
00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,560
Speaker 5: football team who sit in the back pocket and they

251
00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,160
Speaker 5: don't want to go near the ball, and I remember

252
00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,280
Speaker 5: saying comments to my.

253
00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,880
Speaker 4: Wife going, what the hell is that kid doing?

254
00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,360
Speaker 5: You really struck a chord with me, because now I'm like,

255
00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,200
Speaker 5: you've really got to sit back and think about what

256
00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:37,800
Speaker 5: you're saying.

257
00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,839
Speaker 4: You don't know what their kid's going through. I don't

258
00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,320
Speaker 4: know what their parents are going through.

259
00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,200
Speaker 5: I've got no idea but for me to judge that

260
00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,199
Speaker 5: kid because he doesn't want to go near the ball.

261
00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,760
Speaker 4: I just felt really.

262
00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,560
Speaker 5: Bad about some of the perceptions that I've had of

263
00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,319
Speaker 5: kids over the years and going through junior football. It's

264
00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,400
Speaker 5: a real eye opener for all parents, even if your

265
00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,920
Speaker 5: child is not neuro divergent. All you need you need

266
00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,640
Speaker 5: to be the one that needs to make the changes here.

267
00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,199
Speaker 7: Thanks to that's a I mean, just hearing that is so,

268
00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,360
Speaker 7: that's just that's beautiful. Thank you for that, because like

269
00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,360
Speaker 7: I mean, I was kicked to a guide example we

270
00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,160
Speaker 7: took I was kicking and that was I was so

271
00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,679
Speaker 7: excited to do that, but it lasted five minutes and

272
00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,400
Speaker 7: then it was they had a big meltdown but didn't

273
00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,880
Speaker 7: want to go, sorry to stay there and just I

274
00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,960
Speaker 7: could see pants daing, what do you like? What is

275
00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,559
Speaker 7: wrong with just so the looks were just so heartbreaking.

276
00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,120
Speaker 7: I just so, yeah, I appreciate it if you're thinks.

277
00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,040
Speaker 2: What what I think is a really important message here,

278
00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,280
Speaker 2: because you know, I have some friends, including yourself, with

279
00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,120
Speaker 2: this situation and challenge, and one friend in particular, I think,

280
00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,720
Speaker 2: and I've shared this story with you. They sent their

281
00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,400
Speaker 2: little men to one school and the school said there's

282
00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,120
Speaker 2: not much we can do here for a child like yours.

283
00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:02,079
Speaker 2: And then they went to another school that completely embraced

284
00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:07,120
Speaker 2: the difference, completely understood the situation and made him the

285
00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,080
Speaker 2: star of the show and as comfortable as possible. And

286
00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,640
Speaker 2: I think you know you've shared a similar story also,

287
00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,320
Speaker 2: But I think what's so important is for the teachers

288
00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,880
Speaker 2: and schools to understand also what these kids might be

289
00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,080
Speaker 2: going to and how you can welcome and celebrate the difference.

290
00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think. I mean, as we've had a very

291
00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:32,520
Speaker 7: very similar journey with our educational pathway for our child

292
00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,760
Speaker 7: in that one place kind of said yeah, we do

293
00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,880
Speaker 7: it well, but didn't really listen to what we were suggesting.

294
00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,120
Speaker 7: Send them to another place who they had a teacher

295
00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,720
Speaker 7: waiting out the front and for them, and it turned

296
00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,880
Speaker 7: up and who would literally celebrate when they turned up

297
00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,240
Speaker 7: every day and just say, cannot believe how lucky we

298
00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,120
Speaker 7: are to have you at our school. Just saying stuff

299
00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,640
Speaker 7: like that all the time, you feel really loved and

300
00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,000
Speaker 7: really accepted. And the difference in them was it was

301
00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,320
Speaker 7: life changing for all of us. But I think when

302
00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,920
Speaker 7: I think teachers have the toughest job in the world,

303
00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,640
Speaker 7: I think they're highly empathetic people. I just think all

304
00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,040
Speaker 7: of us have to remember that a child on the spectrum,

305
00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:16,360
Speaker 7: a child IDHD what the struggles that they go through,

306
00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,920
Speaker 7: the battles they fight, and the complexities of just getting

307
00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,080
Speaker 7: out the door every day and actually getting to a

308
00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,640
Speaker 7: place like that where there's so much uncertainty, and it's

309
00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,480
Speaker 7: I just find my child is my hero because I

310
00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,200
Speaker 7: to get to school every day is they're doing something

311
00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,720
Speaker 7: hard and I've ever done in my entire life. They

312
00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,840
Speaker 7: do it every single day, and we have to remember

313
00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360
Speaker 7: how hard it is for those people and just to

314
00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:46,080
Speaker 7: treat them with patience and love and care and kindness.

315
00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:47,680
Speaker 4: You are a beautiful man.

316
00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,440
Speaker 5: Can we please talk about the six that you hit

317
00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,240
Speaker 5: on the Prime Minister's house.

318
00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,200
Speaker 7: Because I actually thought that was the interview today. I

319
00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,600
Speaker 7: thought I thought we were talking about.

320
00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,000
Speaker 2: The Perfect podcast. Have you written an open letter to

321
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,600
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister?

322
00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:09,840
Speaker 4: Back it in the ball back? I think who bold

323
00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:10,360
Speaker 4: it to you?

324
00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:10,440
Speaker 6: You?

325
00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:18,160
Speaker 5: Because they were feeling a bit down afterwards overpitched and.

326
00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,160
Speaker 1: The kangaroo should never bowl to a professional cricketer.

327
00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,040
Speaker 5: If you haven't listened to The Imperfect Podcast before, introduced

328
00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,880
Speaker 5: yourself to it, because it does and and for any

329
00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,360
Speaker 5: parent out there, it's I mean, this is a beautiful

330
00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,840
Speaker 5: episode here. We really appreciate your honesty mating coming on

331
00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,040
Speaker 5: the show and opening up about this because, like I said,

332
00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,320
Speaker 5: even if you're not a parent of a neurodivergent child,

333
00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,600
Speaker 5: anyone around you I think this affects you as well

334
00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,640
Speaker 5: and the way that you should approach, you know, children

335
00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,800
Speaker 5: in this situation, or anyone even in the workplace or

336
00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,640
Speaker 5: wherever you are.

337
00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,640
Speaker 4: So here, we really appreciate your honesty, mate.

338
00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,640
Speaker 7: I really appreciate Amy on boys love you both and yeah, tot.

339
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,680
Speaker 2: You so you're beautiful, So you mate, thank you so much.

340
00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,480
Speaker 2: Show but Sits in Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a

341
00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,840
Speaker 2: Nova podcast to walk great shows like this.

342
00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,960
Speaker 4: Download the Nova Player.

343
00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,600
Speaker 2: Fly the App Store or Google Play.

344
00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:18,760
Speaker 7: In the Nova Player