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Speaker 1: Apodjay production.

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Speaker 2: We begin today by acknowledging the traditional custodians of the

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Speaker 2: land on which we gather today and pay our respects

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Speaker 2: to their elders past and present. We extend that respect

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Speaker 2: to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's here today. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Grow and Glow Podcast. I'm Ashley, I'm Kiara.

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Speaker 2: This is a podcast where we learn, laugh, and level

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Speaker 2: up together. Let's go deep, let the emotions flow, combine

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Speaker 2: the lessons to grow and glow.

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Speaker 1: Nothing is off the table with Grow and Glow, and

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Speaker 1: we're here to be your expander. Let's talk about sex, baby,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about you and me. Welcome back to the pod. Guys,

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Speaker 1: we're happy to be here. We are are we talking

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Speaker 1: about sex? Baby? Sex after having a children? This was

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Speaker 1: actually a request that came through one of our dms. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it was mine. I think I came to

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Speaker 1: you and I was like, someone's asked us to talk

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Speaker 1: about this, and I think this is a really cool

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Speaker 1: conversation because a lot can change and as we know

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Speaker 1: as we go through relationships like the relationship dynamic can

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Speaker 1: change so much throughout the different seasons. As you change

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Speaker 1: as you have babies, you get married, go through different jobs,

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Speaker 1: like hardships happen. But yeah, sex after having children can

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Speaker 1: definitely change, especially in the first like three to six months. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think we have briefly touched on it before around

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Speaker 1: like how different it was for each of our kids.

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Speaker 1: But in case of missed that episode, we thought we'd

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Speaker 1: just share our personal experiences and chat about the changes

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Speaker 1: so that you don't feel so alone or you think

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Speaker 1: your relationship's broken or your vagina's broken, because it's not.

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Speaker 1: You might just feel it. You might just feel it.

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Speaker 1: And if it does feel broken, there's plenty of things

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Speaker 1: you can do to help it. Yeah, so that's all

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Speaker 1: we want to feel broken forever.

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Speaker 2: No speaking of broken, but the biggest thing I found

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Speaker 2: like adapting was broken sleep.

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Speaker 1: Oh and that in itself.

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Speaker 2: That in itself, like you don't feel sexy when you

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Speaker 1: Energy, Like the last thing you feel like doing is

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Speaker 1: actually say like it takes two years for your hormones

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Speaker 2: I've heard that that's wild hat so much longer than

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Speaker 2: you would think, yeah, and you don't hear about that,

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Speaker 2: like that's not the stat that you really hear anyone

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Speaker 2: talk about much, but it makes so much sense.

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Speaker 1: It does. Yeah, and it's not to say that you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna not want sex, like everyone's different and depending

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Speaker 1: on your birth, your connection, your time, your sleep, like

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Speaker 1: you know, if you have a collag your baby, if

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Speaker 1: you're getting much sleep some people with libido is high

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Speaker 1: and naturally like you really can't compare, No, you definitely can't.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise you're just gonna feel like absolute crap. But just

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Speaker 1: remember your energy, your body, your hormones, your routine, your priorities,

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Speaker 1: your time, your frequency, your vagina, like so much changes,

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Speaker 1: So take all of that into consideration before being like

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Speaker 1: this before kids? And it is this how it's going

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Speaker 2: And even to pop on that list like if you

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Speaker 2: have a c section or if you have an episiotomy,

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Speaker 2: you know something like that as well, that's even extra time.

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Speaker 1: Again really is and every birth is going to be

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Speaker 1: so different. So I think obviously won't take up the

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Speaker 1: whole episode, but maybe we briefly talk about our experiences

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Speaker 1: after birth and how it changed. So you've obviously had three,

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Speaker 2: So for Miller, I had an eppisiotomy, so I feel

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Speaker 2: Just adjusting for your first time. I feel like it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Link I had second degree tearing because

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Speaker 1: So like, your vagina was obviously okay, but everything else

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Speaker 1: How about you, So, how long after each child was

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Speaker 2: With Miller, I feel like we were jumped back in

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Speaker 2: But then I feel like with the others, we're not

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Speaker 1: Going back to like you know.

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Speaker 2: All that as in gently, very gentle, listening to my

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Speaker 2: remember that first time feeling really uncomfortable with Miller and

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Speaker 1: I just did not feel ready. Yeah, and I was

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Speaker 2: I felt like I remember my first like five times

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Speaker 2: like we're not the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you went really quickly though, like a couple

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Speaker 2: Because what my guyne collegist had said to me, when

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Speaker 1: So I got told get checked at eight weeks, like

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Speaker 1: I was at least five or six weeks bleeding, I think.

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Speaker 1: It's just your body, Hay. Everyone's just so different. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: My vagina's not broken, my relationship is not broken. It

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Speaker 1: is a season new motherhood, having a new baby, Like

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Speaker 1: your priorities really do shift. It's more about the baby

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Speaker 2: Life and it's just different, like different positions feel different.

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Speaker 2: So it's now navigating what feels good and what feels bad. Gosh,

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Speaker 2: I know so many talk with Doggie like love dogg

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Speaker 1: I feel like most of my friends. Yeah, definitely for

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Speaker 1: me too, like it just does not feel the same.

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Speaker 2: But then I feel like lately now but it's been

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Speaker 2: four years since I've had any kids, I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it just takes you know, so much time

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Speaker 1: apparently with Dogy. God, this is soap. I remember one

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Speaker 1: of my girlfriends explained it to me because she was

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Speaker 1: you give birth and you have a baby, the baby

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Speaker 1: pushes all your organs down, so it's just like everything's dropped.

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Speaker 1: So that position, because it goes so deep inside you,

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Speaker 1: it just like it hurts the wrong spot, not the

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Speaker 1: right one. It's the wrong spot. But once again, not

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Speaker 1: for everyone, but it doesn't hurt for me. But it's

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Speaker 1: definitely not comfort rule.

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Speaker 2: It's too hard yes yes yea navigating new things to

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Speaker 2: anymore one percent.

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Speaker 1: Another thing that I highly recommend any new mother and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and learning to accept your new body. I feel

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Speaker 1: So just like having those conversations with your partner and

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Speaker 1: I feel like whenever I go through phases.

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Speaker 1: really being okay with like self pleasuring as well. So

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of mums do not do that. No,

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Speaker 2: And journal on it, like what's coming up for you

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Speaker 2: around that? Like why does it feeluncomfortable? And what have

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Speaker 2: deserve to feel pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah the only massage. If you haven't listened

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Speaker 1: That's what a YI massage is for. If you're saying

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Speaker 2: I've been told by two different Keelers that I have

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Speaker 1: It's generational. So I believe in generational trauma. So how

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