1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: On scoring leaves Australia. This is the Wider Panalty Show. 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panecky Show. Coming 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: up tonight, the Victorian Premier forced to concede that the 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: state's bail laws are in disarray. The Queensland town in 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: an uproar about a garbage late intensity that's popped up 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 2: at a local reserve. We'll have the latest from the 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: US with Kosher Gata and Professor Ian Plymer will unpack 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: the climate craziness that is sending your power bills through 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: the roof. And later in the hour special guest takes 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: a stand for Milania Trump after she was attacked by 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: the ideologues at Vogue magazine. 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 3: And of course we never forget left. 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: He's losing it tonight featuring stars from the Grammys. 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 4: And it changes the game. DEEI is not a threat, 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: it's a gift. 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: But first let's bring in News Corps Senior writer Patrick 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: Carl and Patrick Welcome to the program. 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 3: Let's start with business and. 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: Industry groups preparing to launch what would be the largest 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: third party election campaign in Australia's political history. 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: Amid fears of a hung parliament. 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: The groups are expected to launch campaigns to try and 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: influence swing voters and what is being called one of 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: the most crucial elections of our time. 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: Patrick. Finally, we're seeing these. 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: Business groups actually advocate for their own interests, for the 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: interests of their shareholders, their staff, other stakeholders, as opposed 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: to being tied up in all these social woke issues 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: they normally like to involve themselves, and this is actually 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: about how these policies will impact the running of their business. 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 5: Look, this is fascinating because the data is so specific. 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 5: Now you can have these groups, whether it's unions or 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 5: business groups, actually targeting specific polling booths and they can 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 5: work out apprentices live near that polling booth and a 35 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 5: lot of people with negative gearing investments live near that 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 5: polling group. And so you're going to have this very 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 5: targeted micro campaign for an election where nobody knows the result. 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 5: It's all based on the fact that the ALP soft 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 5: primary vote is so soft at the moment. These sort 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 5: of micro strategies in very targeted area is going to 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 5: have a real impact on the result. 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: What do you say to fears that this is akin 43 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: to buying an election. 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: You're going to have the. 45 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Top end of town determining how people vote. Do you 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: buy that because we know how much the unions spend 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: in this arena. 48 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: That's right. 49 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: Look, look, those fears are warranted, perhaps in the sense 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 5: that they're going to be in the game in a 51 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 5: way that they haven't been in the game before. 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: And it's because of the data. It's because of the technology. 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 5: They will be very targeted and you'll see them really 54 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 5: campaign hard in very very specific areas in a way 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 5: that they haven't before. And you can argue, yes, they're 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 5: going to have more sway potentially, but that's sort of 57 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 5: it's a product of the technology. 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: The world is moving forward slowly. 59 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: Indeed it is. 60 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 2: And Robert got Bleison has written a fascinating piece in 61 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: The Australian newspaper about Labour's new unrealized gains tax, a 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: tax which here calls one of the most vicious taxes 63 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: ever conceived by an Australian government. This tax will not 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: be index and has got beliefs and rights. The biggest 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: victims will be those trying to develop a new business 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: and asking for capital to help. Nobody will invest if 67 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: they have to sell assets to pay for the unrealized 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: gains tax and if there is a later loss, they 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: must wait for capital profits to get the money back. 70 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: Patrick's what happened to Labour's election promise. 71 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure I remember something back in twenty twenty two 72 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: about no new taxes. 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: Yes, vaguely, yes, Robert's under something here. 74 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: I mean, very few countries in the world have taxes 75 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 5: on unrealized profits, and so they're basically potentially going to 76 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: ask for you to pay for money that you actually 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 5: don't have, which will force people to businesses to sell assets, 78 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 5: investors to sell things merely to pay the tax. It's 79 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 5: not fair, it's anti aspirational, it's anti innovation, and it's 80 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 5: anti productive in the sense that you want investment, and 81 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: this is anti investment. 82 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: It is definitely anti investment. And when you've already got 83 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: an environment of high regulation, high tax, it's just another 84 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: reason for people to invest elsewhere. And we know what's 85 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: happening in the US and environment's been created there that 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: is very pro investment. So if you're a big multinational 87 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: you've got to wonder why you would invest in Australia 88 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: at with the current conditions. Let's talk about Victoria. The 89 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: state is buckling under the weight of record debt and 90 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: premiages into Alan seems to be preoccupied with other priorities. 91 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: Here's what she's been posting on X. 92 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: She wrote, I want. 93 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: To send a message to every LGBTQ plus Victorian in 94 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: our state today. 95 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: I know that right now you might look at. 96 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: The world with fear and uncertainty, fear for your community, 97 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: fear for your safety, fear for a future that might 98 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: end up looking a lot more like the past. 99 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: But I want you to know this. 100 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: In Victoria, you have a government and a premiere who 101 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: believes in equality and believes. 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: In a you. Oh, dear man. 103 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: Now, she has been ratioed to Helen back on X 104 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: for that incoherent virtue signaling that basically means Patrick that 105 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: she has been flooded with negative responses, people taking her 106 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: to task for what she has written there, her failure 107 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: to stand up for women's rights, women's spaces. After all, 108 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: Victoria is a place where we have a male sexual 109 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: predator identifying as a woman in a woman's prison. 110 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: That's right. 111 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: I mean, this is the sort of madness that the 112 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: rest of the world can only imagine it's happening in Victoria. 113 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 114 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 5: Look, I think most people Victoria, Australians, the world sick 115 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 5: of the woke sort of ideology. And I think this 116 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 5: is sort of presented as a heartfelt message of love. 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 5: It's actually very cynical. I think it's actually saying I 118 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 5: feel your fears, you have reasons to be fearful. 119 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: We might go back to what was a long time ago. 120 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: And that's very why because Donald Trump has said take 121 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: the pronouns out of your email address if you're a 122 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: government employee. That's what's requiring the Victorian Premiere down a. 123 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: Year to look. 124 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 5: There's been no hate related incident in Victoria that prompted this. 125 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 5: This comes out of nowhere, and I would expect that 126 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 5: the negative sort of X reviews, as you say, would continue, 127 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: because it's misplaced right. 128 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: Now, especially when you look at the many, many real 129 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: issues happening in Victoria, and one of them that the 130 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: Victorian Premier has acknowledge is ordered yet another review, this 131 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: time into the state's bail laws, conceding that something has 132 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: gone seriously. 133 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: Wrong in me to record low polling figures. 134 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: And I do wonder really whether she has grasped what 135 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: the problem is here or whether she's just reading the 136 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: polls and knows that crime is a big issue in 137 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: this state, and coming up to an election, it's an 138 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: area where labor struggled because pretty much everything they've done 139 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: has weakened the criminal response, and it's in boldened the 140 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: criminal class, particularly when you see these bail laws, kids getting. 141 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: Out ten, eleven, twelve times, well. 142 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 5: There were sixty times. In one case November last year, 143 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 5: a fourteen year old was bailed for the I think 144 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 5: the fiftieth time. He'd been accused of home invasions, driving 145 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 5: stolen cars, and police pursuits. And we've had people die 146 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 5: on our roads from this kind of behavior. Obviously, his 147 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 5: rights were put ahead of the rights of everybody else 148 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 5: to feel safe, and that's been the problem. People don't 149 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 5: feel safe. It's as much a perception problem as a 150 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 5: reality problem. People were having, you know, waking up at 151 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: two am to thleeves in their homes trying to find 152 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 5: their car keys. 153 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: They're being menaced and terrorized. 154 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 5: And I think if just Allen was saying this back 155 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 5: in September twenty twenty three, once you took over from 156 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 5: Dan Andrews, you'd say that's great, we welcome these It's 157 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 5: far too late. 158 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: It is it's too little, too late. 159 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: And when you've got police telling frightened Victorians, well, you know, 160 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: just leave your keys by the door so they don't 161 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: come and try to confront you when you're in your 162 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: own home. 163 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: That is not a good place for a first world 164 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: city to be. 165 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: And things haven't changed here in a very very negative 166 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: manner and it's hard to deny it. Now let's go 167 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: to Queensland, where residents of Morton Bay have expressed their 168 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: outrage over a garbage late in tense city that has 169 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: popped up in a local reserve. Seriously, how hard is 170 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: it to show some respect and keep your area tidy. 171 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 2: I feel for those who are struggling, but this is appalling, 172 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: said one local. Another person wrote human dumping ground. Seriously, 173 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: there is no reason to live in filth. Morton Bay 174 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: Mayor Peter Flattery has also condemned the state of the site. 175 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: He said, when public spaces are misused resulting in serious 176 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: health and safety risks and destruction of property, we will 177 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: unequivocally act to protect the broader community and council assets. 178 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: The rubbish there is horrendous, but again, this is a 179 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: failure of government to have people living in these sort 180 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: of tent cities. We are a rich nation, We've got 181 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: a very generous safety net, very generous welfare system, and 182 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 2: yet we've still got people in this state. 183 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 5: Look, I feel firstly very sorry for the local residents 184 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 5: who are putting up with this, and for the mayor 185 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 5: as well. I mean, he's sort of saying the right things, 186 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 5: and he's making the point. This is not about the 187 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 5: politics of homelessness, which is a very important discussion I 188 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 5: have about public safety and health, and I think people 189 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 5: are being threatened. There are police escorts for council offices. Look, 190 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 5: I agree with that. We are a first world nation. 191 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 5: We have lots of safety nets. The fact that this 192 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 5: is happening anywhere is outrageous. It should not be happening. 193 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: It should And when you look at places like La 194 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 2: San Francisco, anyone who's visited those cities in the last 195 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: five years, last ten years, the homelessness issue has just 196 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: got worse and worse and worse. And we don't want 197 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: to be even contemplating being anything like that. And you 198 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: see those tense cities all around there. I've seen it 199 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: in Melbourne. Queensland is now grappling with it. Do you 200 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: see this as as a wider issue with the housing crisis. 201 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 5: I think officially there's one hundred and twenty thousand homeless 202 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 5: people in Australia. 203 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: If people are living in. 204 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 5: Tens, I mean, look, we have a good welfare system, 205 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 5: we have good minimum wages to protect workers. We've got 206 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 5: most things right in ways that parts of America do not. 207 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 5: This should not be happening, and it does go. The 208 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 5: obvious place to go is where have governments failed in 209 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,359 Speaker 5: looking after and taking care of citizens who are struggling. 210 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be happening here. 211 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: Now, just quickly, let's have a look at Matilda's captain, 212 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: a soccer Servers star, Sam Kerr. 213 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: She's on trial in London for. 214 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: Legend racial abuse of a UK police officer, and we 215 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 2: now have the police bodycam footage showing what Kerr actually said. 216 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 6: Honestly, you have stupid and white Okay, stupid, I'm talking 217 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 6: over this. This is the world problem. 218 00:11:54,520 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: Wait on the call, Wait on the call. Call does 219 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: not look great. 220 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: But as much as I'm not an enormous fan of 221 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: some of the politics of some of our sporting stars, 222 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: including Zam, I do think to be on trial for 223 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: something like this it's just a bit too much a fine, 224 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: a caution, But to actually be in a criminal trial. 225 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: Is that what's happening now in the UK? 226 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 5: It's the old rule read nothing good happens after two 227 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 5: am anywhere in the world. Look, it does seem ridiculous 228 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 5: that some has got to be she's playing out in public. 229 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 5: Everyone's hanging on every word and every piece of footage 230 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 5: in a way. 231 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: Which is a brash. But that a very bad night 232 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: a court case. 233 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: Yes, to suggest. 234 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 5: That's criminal or somehow caused offense, I mean that law 235 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 5: was not brought in for white people. 236 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: You can argue whether it's a good law or not. 237 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 5: But to sort of suggest that the police officers somehow 238 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 5: suffered dramatically from what came out of her mouth that 239 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 5: point in time is crazy. 240 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: I agree with that, But I've got to say, if 241 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: you're going to apply these laws and send people to 242 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: court over hurty words, then they've got to apply across 243 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: the board, whether you say white or black or anything 244 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: in between. 245 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: It's got to apply equally. 246 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: But I would just rather not see the court's time 247 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: wasted with this sort of nonsense. Patrick Carline, thanks for 248 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 2: your time. 249 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for Enoch joining me. 250 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: Now is a steam geologist and author, Professor in Plymber. Professor, 251 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,479 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, 252 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: Australia's largest business body, slamming labors eighty two percent renewables target. 253 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: They say it's unrealistic and in urgent need of a revisit. 254 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: The group says that. 255 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: The government must drop its green energy targets and fast 256 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: track gas exploration in order to return power prices to 257 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: affordable levels and make the grid reliable again. I'm sure 258 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: this is exactly what you and I have been talking 259 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: about for years on this program, but it's fantastic to 260 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: hear this from a peak business lobby group. 261 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 7: Well, they're exactly right. We have nine percent of all 262 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 7: energy at present comes from renewables. Ninety one percent of 263 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 7: all energy is from coal and from oil and from gas. 264 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 7: So if you want to get to eighty three percent 265 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 7: or eighty two percent, you've got a very long way 266 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 7: to go. And if you want to do it before 267 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 7: twenty thirty, you've only got five years. 268 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 8: So it's just a time problem. It's just not able 269 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 8: to do it now. 270 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 7: The economic reality is there's a total, absolute waste of money. 271 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 7: We once had very good, reliable, cheap electricity, especially in Victoria. 272 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 8: This came from coal, and we burnt coal. 273 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 7: In Queensland and New South Wales and apparently the gas 274 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 7: of life, the carbon dioxide, has now been deemed so 275 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 7: we've stopped burning coal, putting carbon dioxide back into the 276 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 7: atmosphere where it originally came from, and denying plants food 277 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 7: for some ideological reason. So reality catches up with you, 278 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 7: and it's catching up with a labor party. 279 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 8: Now it's also catching up with the Libs. You have 280 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 8: the same sort of policy. 281 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: Well, yes, the Libs seem to be in denial themselves 282 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: because yes they've got a nuclear plan, but they seem 283 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: to be staying with Paris at a time when the 284 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: entire Paris climate Deal is now irrelevant. The biggest countries 285 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,239 Speaker 2: have walked away or it doesn't. 286 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: Apply to them. 287 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about TV star Katrina round Tree unleashing 288 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: on the Victorian government over its plans to destroy seven 289 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy hectares of picturesque farmland at the base 290 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: of the u Yangs. This is the Yu Yang's Mountain range. 291 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: They want to put a huge newable energy project right there. 292 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: It's going to be near her her farm and the 293 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: smaller country town of Little River. And we're seeing these 294 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: projects pop up across the country. 295 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: How much consultation is. 296 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: There with the local community before these projects go ahead. 297 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 8: Well, there's apparently consultation. 298 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 7: And this is basically where they listen and don't absorb 299 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 7: anything and do what they originally plan. 300 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 8: And you have to remember that Australian governments are borrowing. 301 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 7: Money for these projects. This money goes to foreign corporations 302 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 7: who build the solar and wind industrial complexes, take the 303 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 7: money out of Australia and then leave Australians with the 304 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 7: mess to clean up. This is not very good practice. 305 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 7: And as we should know, wind turbines are dreadfully polluting. 306 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 7: They release from the blades chemicals which spread wide and far. 307 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 7: When you try to get rid of the blow aids, 308 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 7: you have to cut them up and bury them because 309 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 7: you can't recycle them. They kill birds, they kill bats, 310 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 7: they kill wales. This is not environmentalism. This is passing 311 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 7: money to your cronies elsewhere in the world, giving them 312 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 7: a fortune of taxpayers money. And every time we put 313 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 7: new renewables into the grid, our electricity costs go up. 314 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 7: So these are very very silly plans which are costing 315 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 7: us dearly, especially those people in rural areas where they 316 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 7: don't have the electoral power. 317 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 8: That inner city greens who don't see the mess can 318 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 8: actually drive the whole agenda. 319 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: Now, the Guardian and newspaper Guardian Australia has reported on 320 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: a study by Monash University about attitudes towards climate science. 321 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: I'm loving how they have spun this. They he say 322 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: that of those who believe the climate crisis was a conspiracy, 323 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: more than a third twenty seven percent picked commercial TV 324 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: and radio as their main source of news, while only 325 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: eight percent chose non commercial TV or radio. Just eight 326 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: percent of those who believe the human induced climate crisis 327 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: was a conspiracy use public radio and television as their 328 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: main source of news. So, in other words, in those 329 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: who support the climate cause seem to have been brainwashed 330 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: by far left publicly funded broadcasters like the ABC Spares, 331 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: while those who consume a range of media seem to 332 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 2: get a broader picture and they can think for themselves. 333 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: They're not being alarmed about all of us dying within 334 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: five years. 335 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: Is that what you got out of this study? I 336 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: thought it was very amusingly presented. 337 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 9: Well, once you the word Guardian, I turn off and 338 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 9: think of something else, because you can be guaranteed that 339 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 9: their interpretation of data is very different from reality. 340 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 8: Now, maybe it's not a conspiracy. 341 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 7: Maybe there's a bulk of people out there who think 342 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 7: about reality and maybe they look at the costs. Maybe 343 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 7: they think of the environmental damage. Maybe they think that 344 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 7: years ago we once had cheap, reliable electricity and for 345 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 7: some reason, perhaps renewables, the electricity costs have gone through 346 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 7: the roots. So I think the Guardian is heading for extinction. 347 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 7: This article demonstrates it. So good luck to the Guardian. 348 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 7: If you're a Guardian reader, you shouldn't be watching this program. 349 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: Now. 350 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: Finally, I let's check in with what is purportedly Australia's 351 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: leading independent think tank. Independent is doing a lot of 352 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: heavy lifting there. The Australian Institute recently published this video 353 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: to their social media side. So if you can make 354 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 2: sense of this, we're not. 355 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 3: To stop exiting holding gas in Australia. It's a huge industry. 356 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: It's huge industry. 357 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 10: It doesn't bring much to the Australian economy though, if anything, 358 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 10: it costs the Australian economy. You're right, it's an absolutely 359 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 10: huge industry. It's not a big employer though it doesn't 360 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 10: pay much tax, doesn't pay. 361 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: Much in royalties and the profits go offshore. 362 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 10: So I don't know why we're not going to get 363 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 10: rid of the gas industry in Australia. 364 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: It doesn't contribute that much. And is that a sound advice? 365 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 8: Firstly, they pay royalties. 366 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 7: Secondly, she should go to a town like Roma in Queensland, 367 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 7: which was a struggling cattle town until gas came there. 368 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 7: There is full employment, a town is booming and gas 369 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 7: has done a huge amount for local communities in rural 370 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 7: areas where there's not much employment. So these people should 371 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 7: get out of the cities, should get into rural Australia 372 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 7: and actually have a look and possibly even talk to people, 373 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 7: although they need to speak a different language. 374 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: Oh yes, that is not going to happen. I just 375 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: cannot believe the confidence with which she spewed all that 376 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 2: incredible professor Ian Plymer, thank you so much for your 377 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: time this evening. 378 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: Thank you still to KRMA lefties losing it. 379 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: Plus, have the Democrats finally moved on from their d 380 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: race obsessions Kosher Gator is up next watching the Reader 381 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: Paney Show. And now it's time for lefties Losing it 382 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: and let's take a look at the Grammars. They were 383 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: just on though no one with a life seems to 384 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: care too much, But we had an assortment of lefties 385 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: losing it. So let's have a look at the top five. Now. 386 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: While much of the attention was on the tachy exhibitionist 387 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: antics of Carnie and his Australian victim or i mean wife, Biankersen, Sorry, 388 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: it was the usual suspects with their TDS afflictions that 389 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 2: sought to turn a night about music into one about politics. 390 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: Let's start with an award that was nakedly political. Giving 391 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: Beyonce the Best Country Album is just pure politics. She 392 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: is about as country as she is a natural blonde. 393 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: Even she looked embarrassed by this award. 394 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 11: Cowboy coder, Wow, I really was not expecting this. 395 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all shocked, and no one who actually listens 396 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: to and loves country music takes that seriously, because whether 397 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: your lover her album or not, it ain't country folks. 398 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: Now coming in at number four and the Grammy's Lefties 399 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: Losing It list is Shakira, who couldn't help but virtue 400 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: signal in a most vacuous and unnecessary fashion. 401 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 11: I wanted dedicay. 402 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 12: This a word to all my immigrant brothers and sisters. 403 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 11: In best country. 404 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 13: You're loved, You're worth it, and I will always fight 405 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 13: with you. 406 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 3: She will always fight with us. Why what do we do, Shakira. 407 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: Imagine being so out of touch that you miss that 408 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: Latina voters, Hispanic voters supported Trump in enormous numbers, or 409 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: being so thick that you conflate illegal immigration with legal immigration. 410 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: Not a single legal migrant is facing deportation or needs 411 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: to be told by a Colombian songstress that. 412 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: They are loved. Now to the number three position, and 413 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: it goes to a queer singer. That's what she calls herself. 414 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: I've never heard of her, but she did win Best 415 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: New Artists, and of course she had to mouth off 416 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: about the Lgbtquia plus plus community and what she calls Transjoy. 417 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 14: Trans people have always existed and they will forever exist 418 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 14: and they will never no matter what happens teake trans 419 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 14: Joy away, and that has to be protected more than anything, 420 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 14: because I would not be here with our trans girls. 421 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 14: So just know that pop music is thinking about you 422 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 14: and cares about you. 423 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: Coming in at number two is another activist who has 424 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: long been vocal in her support for the Democrats, who 425 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: has urged Americans. 426 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 3: To vote for Hillary, vote for Biden and. 427 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: Kamala, and who is a single woman with little idea 428 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: of the national divorce happening in the LGBTQ community, where 429 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: many lgb folk are saying goodbye to the TQ activist. 430 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: Here is a Lady Guar. 431 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: Telling trans people that they're not invisible, No kidding. 432 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 11: Trans people are not invisible. 433 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 13: Trans people deserve love, The queer community deserves to be 434 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 13: lifted up. 435 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 11: Music is love, Thank you. 436 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: And the number one left You Losing It of the 437 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 2: Grammys is Alicia key Is. 438 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: You'll remember her. 439 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: She had to apologize or should that be clarify her 440 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: questionable post about a paraglider whilst dressed in Palestinian colors 441 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: just a few days after October seven, and who can 442 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: forget her posing in a burker like it's some high 443 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: fashion item at a time where Muslim women in countries 444 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: like Iran are risking their lives fighting against such garments. 445 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: So let's hear what Alicia had to say at the Grammys, 446 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure this is going to be riveting. 447 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 4: This is not the time to shut down the diversity 448 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 4: of voices. We've seen on this stage, talented, hard working 449 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 4: people from different backgrounds, with different points of view, and 450 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 4: it changes the game. DEI is not a threat, it's 451 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 4: a gift. And the more voices, the more power for 452 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 4: the sound. When destructive forces try to burn us down, 453 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: we rise from the ashes like of Phoenix. 454 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: DEI is not a threat, it's a gift. 455 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 12: No. 456 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: DEI is neo Marxist lunacy. 457 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: It's racism and sexism dressed up as. 458 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 3: False tolerance, and it has no place in a. 459 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: Free society where people should be judged on their character 460 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: and skills, not factors that have zero control over, like 461 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 2: their gender, race, ethnicity. As for the diversity on the stage, 462 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: Alicia Keys talked to bad name one artist who performed 463 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 2: or was honored with an award who represents the majority 464 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: of Americans who voted for Trump. 465 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 3: Far from being an example. 466 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: Of diverse voices, the music industry, like Hollywood, is full 467 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: of out of touch, privileged idiots, an industry that is 468 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: among the most closed minded, bigoted, and divorced from reality. 469 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: You are in no position to lecture anyone about anything. 470 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 2: Let's hear now from a member of the LGBTQIA plus 471 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 2: plus community. 472 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 15: Yesterday, I had the absolute audacity to say, I don't 473 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 15: care how many executive orders you sign, you still don't 474 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 15: get to tell me who I am. 475 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: Yesterday I had the absolute. 476 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 16: Audacity of saying, I don't care if you're elected to 477 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 16: the highest station in the world. 478 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 11: You still don't get to tell me who I am. 479 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: Let me have the audacity to tell you, no one 480 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: cares who you are or how you identify, as long 481 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: as you don't impose your delusions on us. Unless you 482 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: compel the rest of us to call you what you 483 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: identify as what we know you are not, or give 484 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: you access to our female only areas well you be, 485 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: you just leave me out of it. There'll be plenty 486 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: more lefties losing it content with my next guest, and 487 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: my word has been a meltdown over us AID funding 488 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 2: being cut USAID. Every rent seeking lefty is up in arms. 489 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: Here is Jamie Raskin railing against Elon Musk. 490 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 16: Elon Musk, you didn't create us AID. The United States 491 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 16: Congress did for the American people and times like Elon 492 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 16: Musk did not create USAID, he doesn't have the power 493 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 16: to destroy it, and who's gonna stop him? 494 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: We are, We're gonna stop him. 495 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: And hysterical squad member Elon omer is also losing her 496 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: teeny tiny mind over US eight. 497 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 13: We are witnessing a constitutional crisis. We talked about Trump 498 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 13: wanting to be a dictator on day one, and here 499 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 13: we are. This is what the beginning of dictatorship looks like. 500 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: Oh, dear Elon, that is not a dictatorship. 501 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: This is a president with a mandate imposing the policies 502 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: his duty bound to impose. So what sort of vital 503 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: funding are they so disturbed about being cut? Let's hear 504 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: from Caroline Levett, White House Press Secretary about some of 505 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: the examples where US taxpayers are spending money for US 506 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: eight to do. 507 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 17: What if you look at the waste and abuse that 508 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 17: has run through USAID over the past several years, these 509 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 17: are some of the insane priorities that that organization has 510 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 17: been spending money on. One point five I have million 511 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 17: dollars to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces, seventy thousand for 512 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 17: a production of a DEI musical in Ireland, forty seven 513 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 17: thousand for a transgender opera in Colombia, thirty two thousand 514 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 17: for a transgender comic book in Peru. I don't know 515 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 17: about you, but as an American taxpayer, I don't want 516 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 17: my dollars going towards this scrap, and I know the 517 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 17: American people don't either. 518 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: And let's hear from the man himself, the Later of 519 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: the Free World Potus, about who is running USIID these days. 520 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 7: Well, it's been run by a bunch of radical lunatics, 521 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 7: and we're getting them out. 522 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 9: Us AID run by radical. 523 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 7: Lunatics, and we're getting them out, and then we'll make 524 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 7: a decision. 525 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: Joining me now. 526 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: Sky News contributor Kosha Gaeta Kosha radical lunatics. 527 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: I love it. 528 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: This is becoming a big issue. But I do wonder 529 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: whether the Democrats really want to defend the madest spending 530 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: of us AI day because the more we hear about 531 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: these items, whether it's thirty five thousand dollars for these 532 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: or five million for that, it's hard to see how 533 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: this is in the interests of the American text Pyle. 534 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 12: This story has become I think the biggest story of 535 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 12: the week, and It was really unexpected. Most people were 536 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 12: never thinking about us AID to this level before. And 537 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 12: Trump is so good at taking things that are big 538 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 12: issues and putting them in the forefront and changing the 539 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 12: national discourse. USAID was after there is a statutory law 540 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 12: behind it, the Congress pass but then JFK created the 541 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 12: agency in nineteen sixty one. Like anything, it's creeped far 542 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 12: away from its original mission. It's about forty three billion 543 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 12: dollars a year going into all sorts of those DII 544 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 12: and productions and museums and those things that we heard about. 545 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 12: It's not advancing the interests. There's even more nefarious things 546 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 12: like funding gain a function research potentially in Muhan, and 547 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 12: meddling in other countries' internal affairs front of money launering. 548 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 12: There's all sorts of things coming out of it. And 549 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 12: the fact that all those leaders took to the streets 550 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 12: to protest Jimmie Raskin and Elin Ormo is very curious 551 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 12: for just the dismantling and reorging of an agency. I 552 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 12: wouldn't have expected to see them rallying for that, So 553 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 12: there must be more underneath it. 554 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: And you've just got to wonder about the political judgment 555 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: of the Democrats right now. Sure they're in the wilderness, 556 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: but you've got to start the rebuild, and you've got 557 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: to start it straight away, and clutching to these sorts 558 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: of issues seems ill advised. Now the New York Post 559 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: is reporting that us AID. Us AID workers received an 560 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: email Monday telling them to stay out of the agency's 561 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: DC headquarters as a old musk, and the White House 562 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 2: moved to shut it down and reorganize it under the 563 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: State Department. So that is an important point to consider 564 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: that it may not be gone and buried forever. It 565 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: is being reimagined, perhaps in the vision that they originally had, 566 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: which was to advance US interest. This was at a 567 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: time of the Cold War, and like you say, it's 568 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: veered far far away from those objectives. 569 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 12: And those types of measures fall within the purview of 570 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 12: the executive branch. And this is what we're seeing every 571 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 12: six hours there's a new action coming out of Team 572 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 12: Trump that he is really wielding the weight to the 573 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 12: executive branch, where even if there's a statutory premise to 574 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 12: it around foreign assistance, which is what Jamie Raskin is 575 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 12: talking about, the way it is, administrator is in his purview, 576 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 12: and if he wants to put it back under the 577 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 12: State Department so it's more aligned with Marco Rubio's execution 578 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 12: of the Trump policy, then that's as prerogative. If they 579 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 12: want to shut down certain aspects, if they want to 580 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 12: lock out people and change who's administering it, that's all 581 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 12: in their purview. But this seems to just be the beginning, 582 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 12: and I think it's going to get more heated. 583 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 2: And I am loving some of these emails being leaked 584 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: that are going to staff members them how they can resign, 585 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 2: how they can go about just removing themselves from the bureaucracy. Now, 586 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 2: let's check in with the DNC and see if they've 587 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: moved on from their DEI race obsessions. 588 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 18: Racism has not gone away since twenty people of Africa 589 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 18: descent came upon these shores at Jamestown, Virginia in sixteen nineteen, 590 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 18: and it's going to require us to think and behave 591 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 18: in a new way. It is systemic, it is structural 592 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 18: when it comes to addressing diversity, equity, inclusion, access, and 593 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 18: belonging Kosher. 594 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 2: They just do not learn that seem to be in 595 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 2: capable of moving away from their identity politics obsessions talking 596 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: about systematic racism sixteen nineteen. 597 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 3: Have they have? They just f ill to say. 598 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: Where the American people are now that they don't want 599 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: these racial division forced down their throat. 600 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 12: That lot certainly seems to lack the political judgment that 601 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 12: you just mentioned. They're out in the wilderness and they 602 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 12: keep going back to sixteen nineteen and DEI and all 603 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 12: these buzzwords that the other side is at rapid speed, 604 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 12: completely dismantling. They didn't talk at all about immigration and inflation, 605 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 12: where the majority of the public fifty to fifty five 606 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 12: percent of the public wants there's actually a level of 607 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 12: unification around these issues that didn't exist even five years ago. 608 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 12: That is where they should be going and come up 609 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 12: with maybe some policy substantive differences to things that are controversial, 610 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 12: like tariffs or something else that would have been better 611 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 12: than singing the DEI song sheet. But it just seems 612 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 12: to be such a potent strain in the party that 613 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 12: for some reason, even if they know and there are 614 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 12: talented people in the party, they just can't seem to 615 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 12: excize it. 616 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 3: Now, let's have a bit of fun. 617 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 2: I did a whole bit about the grammysy lefties, losing 618 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 2: it during chat from the Grammys, appears to be around 619 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 2: Beyonce's country music when that's caused a bit of a funeral, 620 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 2: as well as Carnee West and his Australian wife Biancas 621 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 2: and sorry, what do you make of that display? There 622 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: is so much chatter about whether she's being victimized, is 623 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: she being used and projectified by Carnie West. People are 624 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 2: saying she needs to be committed, because no sane person 625 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 2: would be humiliating themselves on a regular basis like this. 626 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: She certainly doesn't seem to be happy about whatever is happening. 627 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 2: What's your take on this, because when you talk about 628 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: the culture, this is an issue that has really gained 629 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: traction this week. 630 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 12: It's hard to know, and you're right, she did look 631 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 12: rather uncomfortable on that. So it's a spectrum of possibilities 632 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 12: because who knows what happened behind the scenes. There is 633 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 12: it that there's some sort of paradynamic in that relationship 634 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 12: and she was in some where pressure or call into 635 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 12: doing a publicity stunt. Did it maybe come from her 636 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 12: own volition? Did she do it in that way? Because 637 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 12: you know that you're going to generate headlines around the world, 638 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 12: we're talking about it right now, and that mantra and 639 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 12: know such things about publicity. Is it a sign of 640 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 12: this shock and awe that you just want to do 641 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 12: something to really start some kind of conversation. Who knows 642 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 12: where it stands on that, but it is a degeneracy 643 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 12: and just a sign of the culture not being where. 644 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: It needs to be. 645 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: I think the word there is degeneracy there is. This 646 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 2: is supposed to be the Grammy is It's supposed to 647 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: be a prestigious night where you celebrate the best in 648 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: the music industry and you have full frontal nudity. So 649 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: and you know, and it's kids who are really interested 650 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: in the Grammys. I learned too many adults so just 651 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 2: hanging on to see who wins the Album of the Year. 652 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: But it's the young kids and they're the ones who 653 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 2: are seeing that. So it really does question, you know, 654 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 2: where is the culture at when it comes to Hollywood, 655 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: the music industry, the celebrity class. Now let's move back 656 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 2: back to politics. Joe Biden may be making a move 657 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 2: to Hollywood, signing on with a new agent. New York 658 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 2: Post is reporting that Biden has made his first known 659 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 2: move to monetize his post presidency, He's going to be 660 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: represented by Creative Artists Agency, quite a big player, and 661 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 2: the Talent agency comes As insiders speculate on how the 662 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 2: Biden family is now going to be making money. We 663 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 2: know they reaped millions of dollars from foreign deals and 664 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 2: some dubious Ivy League arrangements. This is an interesting signing. 665 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: I can't imagine what he would want to be. Is 666 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: he going to do with some sort of a project 667 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: with Netflix? Is he going to be an artist? 668 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 3: Why would he sign with him? 669 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 12: And Hunter Biden has some experience in that realm. 670 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 3: As we know. 671 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 12: It is odd because on the face of it, it's 672 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 12: so absurd, and we all can see that sort of 673 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 12: have to go along with it because it's It is 674 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 12: an admission of how the presidency in the day and 675 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 12: age that we live in is monetized. It's a commercial 676 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 12: asset and it did not used to be this way. 677 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 3: But all presidents of Babamas were the masters, were. 678 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 12: The masters of it, and they all monetize it through 679 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 12: speeching speeches and writing gigs and books and those kinds 680 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 12: of things. The Obamas went further into the entertainment world 681 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 12: with a massive Netflix deal and they've done like two 682 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 12: dozen films, but they do have charisma, they do have 683 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 12: a following the Obamas. You could, even if you know 684 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 12: that there's influence that's being bought and sold here, you 685 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 12: can on the face of it see why they are 686 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 12: a talent that CAAA would want to represent. With Biden, 687 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 12: just his age, not glamorous, not charismatic. It's just hard 688 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 12: to see. 689 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 2: Him not coherent and them's not cognitively sound. That's the 690 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: biggest housi or who. 691 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 3: Is going to be representing. 692 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, so it's clear that it's so obvious that it's 693 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 12: not about the content he's going to be putting out, 694 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 12: but it's about the influence that he still has, and 695 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 12: that's what they're going to be. 696 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 3: Is still the product. 697 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 2: We said all along where we came to hunt Biden 698 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: and his dubious business dealings, that Biden was the product 699 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 2: and still seems to be the product. Now we've seen 700 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 2: a pause on the tariffs that are to be imposed 701 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 2: on Canada and Mexico. Kosher tell me about what happened. 702 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: There was this just a tactic for Donald Trump to 703 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 2: get what he wanted. He threshns tariffs, announces them, and 704 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: then these leaders do what he's asked them to do 705 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: in hours, within hours. We've seen this now several times. 706 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 2: And how long can he use this strategy, because surely 707 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 2: they're smart enough to eventually work out what's happening here. 708 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 12: So I think it's two things. On one level, it 709 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 12: is just a tactic where he threatens them within hours 710 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 12: they capitulate. It's usually relating to take back your illegals, 711 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 12: pay for their plane flights, fortify the border, things like that, 712 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 12: and then he'll put a thirty day poles to make 713 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 12: sure that they actually follow through with what they've promised, 714 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 12: and if not, he'll threaten it again. But I also 715 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 12: think that underneath that he looks at it as an 716 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 12: economic policy, like a genuine one. Because the US big 717 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 12: picture is about four percent of the world's population, about 718 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 12: twenty five percent of consumption. It's the most desirable consumer 719 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 12: market in the world. Yeah, so that is a really 720 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 12: big asset that he believes even if it leads to 721 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 12: price increases for Americans in the short run, it just 722 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 12: rebalances trade in a good way. And I think he 723 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 12: really believes that. And with some countries like China and others, 724 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 12: he might push it on its own merits, whereas with 725 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 12: these countries it might be just a tactic to get 726 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 12: them to and it's not always. 727 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 2: The threash of tariffs has also sent some diplomats down 728 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 2: to Venezuela and has got agreement from that country to 729 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 2: take back their violent criminals, including gang members. Another big 730 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: win for Donald Trump this way, Koshergita, thanks for your time. 731 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 2: Stale to come Vogue Magazine's latest attacks against Milania Trump 732 00:41:47,800 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 2: backfire Link Lawn is up next. Welcome joining me now 733 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 2: is commentator and former senior advisor on RFK Junior's twenty 734 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 2: twenty four presidential campaign. Link Lauren Link, Welcome back to 735 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 2: the program. Let's talk about Milania Trump and Vogue. Voguers 736 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 2: come under intense scrutiny over what's been called a hit 737 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 2: job on First Lady Milania Trump's official White House portrait. 738 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: I thought the image, let's have a look at it 739 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: was beautiful. 740 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 3: It's so strong and fierce. 741 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 2: Tell me how Vogue responded to what was widely seen 742 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 2: as a stunning official portrait. 743 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 15: Well, it's great to be with you, Rita. This just 744 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 15: speaks to the culture in our country where these single, 745 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 15: miserable women who work at Vogue and get all their 746 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 15: news from MSNBC. They can mock and dinner greate conservative 747 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 15: women all day long with no recourse. In fact, they 748 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 15: get elevated and praise. The Fact that Milania Trump has 749 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 15: never been on the cover of Vogue as a first 750 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 15: lady is absolutely embarrassing for the magazine. They've had Kim 751 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 15: Kardashian on the cover ten times, Michelle Obama three times. 752 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 15: Jill Biden, of all people, has been on the cover 753 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 15: of Vogue three times herself. And she walks around and 754 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 15: blackfish nets, a leather skirt, her hair's a mess, high heels. 755 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 15: She looks like a geriatric hooker. Let's call it like 756 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 15: we see it. The fact that the Lania Trump has 757 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 15: not been on the cover of Vogue is egypt. 758 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, just tell us what you really think 759 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 2: link my goodness. 760 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 3: Well, I do wonder whether they're just hurting the road. 761 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 3: I wonder if they are hurting. 762 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 2: The road credibility as a fashion magazine by trying to 763 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: tear her down, because whether you love or a hater, 764 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't doubt. 765 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 3: That she's a beautiful woman. 766 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 2: She's got a distinct sense of style, she has a 767 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 2: fashion icon, So why would Vogue go down this road, 768 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 2: Like how much hate do they have in their hearts 769 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 2: to be making them so look foolish by attacking Milania's 770 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 2: fashion sense. 771 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 15: Milania Trump, she's stunnying. She's an international supermodel, she's self made, 772 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 15: she's an immigrant. If she had a D next to 773 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 15: her name, if Milania Trump were a Democrat, she would 774 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 15: have been on the cover of Vogue ten times already. 775 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 15: Usha vans the fact that they're making fun of her. 776 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 15: She's an Indian American, she's self made, she's an attorney, 777 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 15: she's brilliant. But because she's a Republican as well, they're 778 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 15: going to Mark and dinner greet her. And that's what's 779 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 15: happening in the culture in our country. 780 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned that the other former First ladies, no 781 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 2: matter what they look like or what their fashion sense 782 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 2: is like, have been on the cover of Vogue. We're 783 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 2: seeing Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Jill Biden. I do wonder 784 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 2: whether there's going to be any relenting because we have 785 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,479 Speaker 2: seen some relenting from major fashion labels who a few 786 00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 2: years ago were refusing to dress anyone within the Trump camp. Now, ah, 787 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 2: they see that there's real value in having their brand 788 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 2: associated with someone like a Milania Trump or an Usha Vance. 789 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 3: Do you see that changing? 790 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 2: Do you see some big brands coming forward and saying 791 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: we want to dress the first lady or the second lady. 792 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely? 793 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 15: I mean these magazines and publications they can either evolve 794 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 15: and understand that Donald Trump he won this election and 795 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 15: a landslide. This was a decisive mandate, he won the 796 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 15: popular vote. If they don't start reaching across the aisle 797 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 15: and highlighting conservative women or conservatives in general, they will 798 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 15: continue to fade into irrelevance and obscurity. And even just 799 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 15: from a capitalistic standpoint, wouldn't you want to put Malania 800 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 15: Trump or Ivanka Trump or Usha Vance on the cover 801 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 15: of Vogue to reach these conservative women. But I'm happy 802 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,399 Speaker 15: to see other independent publications popping up who do give 803 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 15: a fair shape to conservative women. And Anna wintor Vogue, 804 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 15: good luck to them. I'm not sure they'll even be 805 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 15: around in five years. 806 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 2: Usha Vance is also a very interesting character. 807 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 3: You mentioned her. 808 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 2: She's a very accomplished woman, a very stylish, beautiful woman. 809 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 2: So we've now got two really quite stunning women in 810 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 2: the White House who are going to be I think 811 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 2: fashion icons in their own right. Before you go, I've 812 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 2: got to ask you about the growing fascination affection for 813 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 2: Baron Trump Millennia and Donald Trump's son. His popularity has 814 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 2: absolutely skyrocketed. 815 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 3: We've heard about the role he played. 816 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 2: In the campaign, the advice he gave his father about 817 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,919 Speaker 2: who to talk to, how to reach younger voters. 818 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 3: There's talk of a dinsty emerging. Blink. 819 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 15: Absolutely. I think Baron Trump, Kai Trump and these other 820 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 15: younger Trumps really are the next generation in the future 821 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 15: of the Republican Party if they want to be involved 822 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 15: in politics at all. Of course, it's a blood sport, 823 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 15: it's a contact sport. They might have their interests. But 824 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 15: Baron Trump, I think he's still young, he's still finding himself. 825 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 15: I went to NYU as well, just like Baron Trump, 826 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 15: and if he can be so confident in such a liberal, 827 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 15: woke environment, I think he's going to have a great 828 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 15: life and career ahead of him. 829 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 2: Well, he was the breakout star of the inaugration festivities, 830 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 2: so I we'll watch to see what happens there. Leglauren, 831 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time this evening, and 832 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 2: that's it from me. Tonight up next is Newsnight I'll 833 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: see you at eleven tomorrow.