1
00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,320
Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Her with Kate Richie podcast.

2
00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,280
Speaker 2: Well, this is exciting but also a bit scary because

3
00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,200
Speaker 2: we've got one of the original Bad Guys in the studio,

4
00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:14,880
Speaker 2: real bad Guy, right, forty Bad Guys books in ten years,

5
00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,919
Speaker 2: and we have Bad.

6
00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,040
Speaker 3: Guys Too coming out at the movies. I'll tell you what.

7
00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,360
Speaker 2: The Fitzgerald family is salivating over this advanced screenings at

8
00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:23,720
Speaker 2: the moment.

9
00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,000
Speaker 3: But it comes out next Thursday.

10
00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,479
Speaker 2: And the man behind Bad Guys is the magnificent Aaron

11
00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:29,320
Speaker 2: Blaby Joneses.

12
00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,919
Speaker 1: Now Hello, well, hello, just checking Aaron's canser on do

13
00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,320
Speaker 1: they work?

14
00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Aaron, Aaron, welcome to the studio, buddy, Thank you

15
00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,640
Speaker 3: very much. Can we go back?

16
00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Bad Guys is massive in our house too,

17
00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,200
Speaker 1: fits and we can't wait to see the new movie.

18
00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,920
Speaker 3: But I just want to go back because if we talk.

19
00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,040
Speaker 1: About, you know, Pig the Pug and the earlier books,

20
00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,360
Speaker 1: what was it that made you want to master the

21
00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,360
Speaker 1: art of writing kids' stories?

22
00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,959
Speaker 4: It was very pragmatic.

23
00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,639
Speaker 5: My little my youngest was six, and the books that

24
00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,880
Speaker 5: he was being sent home from school with were such

25
00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:18,679
Speaker 5: absolute trash careful yeah, and they were literally so boring

26
00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,240
Speaker 5: that he would they were making cry. I remember sitting

27
00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,759
Speaker 5: on the sofa with a six year old who would

28
00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,440
Speaker 5: cry when it was time to read a book, and

29
00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,840
Speaker 5: I thought, well, I've got to come up with something

30
00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:27,480
Speaker 5: better than that.

31
00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,240
Speaker 4: Was that was a simply it was as simple as that.

32
00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,440
Speaker 3: So, what was the first book that you produced.

33
00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,560
Speaker 5: Well, I did eight books before they got popular, my

34
00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,440
Speaker 5: early ones. I couldn't give them away really, And then

35
00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,880
Speaker 5: it was Pig Pig and Pig Thumbing in the corner

36
00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,480
Speaker 5: and the Bad Guys all happened in the one year.

37
00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,480
Speaker 5: They were actually all invented on the same day. It

38
00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,040
Speaker 5: sounds it sounds like cobblers, but it's not.

39
00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,160
Speaker 4: That day.

40
00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,480
Speaker 5: I went for a walk and I was I was

41
00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,560
Speaker 5: forty year old with two young kids, who was desperate

42
00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,720
Speaker 5: to not work in advertising anymore, and I thought, this

43
00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,240
Speaker 5: is pretty much my last shot on forty and I

44
00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,200
Speaker 5: went for a walk, and for some reason, the universe

45
00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,679
Speaker 5: dropped all three ideas into my head on the same day.

46
00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,280
Speaker 3: Aaron, this fascinates me.

47
00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,600
Speaker 2: This fascinates me because even then, I mean, it's just

48
00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,839
Speaker 2: it's an epiphany, right, So yeah, I mean, you don't

49
00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,520
Speaker 2: know where to go with this, But like so when

50
00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,639
Speaker 2: was the moment. Okay, from then then you start writing

51
00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,600
Speaker 2: and it starts coming to you. But when did you

52
00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,400
Speaker 2: start thinking to yourself, this is actually getting really popular.

53
00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,680
Speaker 2: Was there a moment where you just thought, our kids

54
00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,160
Speaker 2: are really starting to love this, Aaron, it was twofold.

55
00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,560
Speaker 5: There was when Pig dropped. He was immediately really popular

56
00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,240
Speaker 5: in Australia, which was incredibly exciting. But I remember the

57
00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,560
Speaker 5: first print run was like forty thousand copies, which seemed

58
00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,239
Speaker 5: gigantic to me at the time. But then the first

59
00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,560
Speaker 5: Bad Guy's book dropped in the school system in America

60
00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,160
Speaker 5: and in a week they'd done half a million copies

61
00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,000
Speaker 5: and it was just and I'd never sold more than

62
00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,680
Speaker 5: four thousand of anything to that point. It was like,

63
00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,919
Speaker 5: what's happening? And then it just escalated, continually escalated. It's

64
00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,919
Speaker 5: I think, I think we're just about it's sixty.

65
00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,240
Speaker 3: Middle and now I see the bad guys.

66
00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,640
Speaker 5: In total total bad Guys about getting close to forty

67
00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:20,959
Speaker 5: I think.

68
00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,600
Speaker 2: And the movie's catapulted it even more. The movie is unbelievable. So, Aaron,

69
00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,840
Speaker 2: were there days in that period where it just exploded?

70
00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,600
Speaker 2: Were there days where you were just getting phone calls

71
00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,240
Speaker 2: from publicists and book companies just going, oh, you've sold

72
00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,200
Speaker 2: another million today?

73
00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,840
Speaker 3: Or was there were there days like that?

74
00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,320
Speaker 4: It was a little bit. You've got to remember what

75
00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:41,640
Speaker 4: I do.

76
00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,760
Speaker 5: Like I'm I mean, I'm a hermit to begin with

77
00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,360
Speaker 5: and as autistic as they come.

78
00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,800
Speaker 4: So I'm in my That's true.

79
00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,720
Speaker 5: I'm in my studio just alone, like and I was

80
00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,360
Speaker 5: in there doing this for ten years, you know. So,

81
00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:58,880
Speaker 5: And it's funny.

82
00:03:58,920 --> 00:03:59,840
Speaker 4: My agent in.

83
00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,360
Speaker 5: Angeles, who's amazing, who did the deal for the movie

84
00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,520
Speaker 5: and everything. He tried to contact me. I think it

85
00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,040
Speaker 5: was three or four times, and his assistant called a

86
00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,520
Speaker 5: couple of times, and I just told him to clear off,

87
00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,240
Speaker 5: and because it just seemed it just seemed too unlikely.

88
00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,240
Speaker 5: You know, I'm sitting in my little studio in the

89
00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,200
Speaker 5: Blue Mountains and a guy calls up claiming to be

90
00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,160
Speaker 5: a big Hollywood agent.

91
00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,080
Speaker 3: You kill you.

92
00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, So that happened for a bunch and eventually emailed

93
00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,400
Speaker 5: me and sent me a long thing, and yeah, we

94
00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,200
Speaker 5: kind of explaining that it's well, you know what though,

95
00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,360
Speaker 5: it's really funny. The first time I went to LA

96
00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,840
Speaker 5: for the meetings, I was still convinced I was being punked.

97
00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:38,520
Speaker 4: The whole time.

98
00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:38,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

99
00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,120
Speaker 5: It wasn't until we ended up like because that week

100
00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,840
Speaker 5: we met all the heads of all the studios and.

101
00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,120
Speaker 4: I thought, Okay, well maybe this is legit. But it was. Yeah,

102
00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,719
Speaker 4: it took a long time.

103
00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,000
Speaker 1: Can we go back to the start bay You've got

104
00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,280
Speaker 1: that day when all the ideas dropped. There's a big

105
00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,520
Speaker 1: difference between having an idea and what you think is

106
00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,960
Speaker 1: a good idea enough to pursue it, and then actually

107
00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,800
Speaker 1: making it happen.

108
00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:58,840
Speaker 4: So when you.

109
00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,359
Speaker 1: Wrote the first A Pig Pug, what was that process like,

110
00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,400
Speaker 1: Because obviously you'll very quickly you've mastered the art of

111
00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,560
Speaker 1: storytelling for kids, because many books have been written by

112
00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,039
Speaker 1: people and they just become a book.

113
00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:11,680
Speaker 4: Written by someone.

114
00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,000
Speaker 5: I think it was a combination, Like it was written

115
00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,799
Speaker 5: specifically for my kids, so I knew his sense of humor,

116
00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,920
Speaker 5: so it was about that. As much as I hate

117
00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,120
Speaker 5: to admit it, my brief stint in advertising I think

118
00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,839
Speaker 5: did help me. I think the difference between my old

119
00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,279
Speaker 5: books that didn't sell and the ones afterwards that did

120
00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,919
Speaker 5: was the ability to condense an idea into something that

121
00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,960
Speaker 5: was really sharp and really funny and just sort of

122
00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,599
Speaker 5: clear messaging.

123
00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and hit. And it wasn't conscious.

124
00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,000
Speaker 5: I think it was just I'd spent two years thinking

125
00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,120
Speaker 5: like that and then i sat down to write a

126
00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,800
Speaker 5: book about a disgusting little dog and it it just

127
00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,839
Speaker 5: fell into place.

128
00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,000
Speaker 1: This is the Fitsy and with Kate Richie podcast.

129
00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:58,680
Speaker 2: Aaron, what's the fine line and Bad Boys? I mean,

130
00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,599
Speaker 2: you have a look at some of the characters. What's

131
00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,400
Speaker 2: the fine line of you pushing it too far? Because kids,

132
00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,320
Speaker 2: I mean we all know. I mean you look at

133
00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,520
Speaker 2: roll dar books, you look at them all that the

134
00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,520
Speaker 2: naughty side of books is what kids love, and that's

135
00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,000
Speaker 2: what stands out the most. But are there were there

136
00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,320
Speaker 2: moments that you had to pull stuff out because you went, oh,

137
00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,240
Speaker 2: this is too full on for kids, or.

138
00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,599
Speaker 5: I spent that That was always the game for me

139
00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,799
Speaker 5: is how far you can you could push the Oh?

140
00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,720
Speaker 5: Absolutely And look, there's a perfect example in one of

141
00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,560
Speaker 5: in the second half of the Bad Guys series, from

142
00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,960
Speaker 5: about book thirteen on or something. I've got a character

143
00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,880
Speaker 5: with chainsaw hands, right and and what because the original

144
00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,359
Speaker 5: idea was sort of like Tarantino for kids, and that

145
00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,680
Speaker 5: sounds inconceivable. But the game for me was how can

146
00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,640
Speaker 5: you take adult iconography. The kids like love the look

147
00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,400
Speaker 5: of but aren't allowed to watch. How can you take

148
00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,800
Speaker 5: bits of that make it? And I think that's what

149
00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,440
Speaker 5: happened in the American schools with the first Bad Guys

150
00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,680
Speaker 5: book was kids picked it up, saw these gangsters on

151
00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,720
Speaker 5: the front of the I can't believe this is in

152
00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,400
Speaker 5: the library. Sure are we meant to have this?

153
00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,440
Speaker 4: This feels like it? Yeah, And I that was intentional.

154
00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,920
Speaker 4: It really was, because I just thought about the stuff

155
00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,880
Speaker 4: that I loved when I was that agent.

156
00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,480
Speaker 5: Because it was the eighties, it was access to any

157
00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,240
Speaker 5: any inappropriate material you wanted to get your hands on,

158
00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,560
Speaker 5: and that sort of got so it was I think

159
00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,680
Speaker 5: there's a bit of a spirit of that that I

160
00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,080
Speaker 5: kind of brought into it. But it was just to

161
00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,080
Speaker 5: have for myself, to have fun and to make my

162
00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:34,640
Speaker 5: kid laugh.

163
00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,720
Speaker 4: It was as simple as that.

164
00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,120
Speaker 1: I'd be fascinated to know too, because you know of

165
00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,920
Speaker 1: the world wide success, you know with the movies, who's

166
00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,280
Speaker 1: who's contacted you or tried to reach you even though

167
00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,760
Speaker 1: you were a herb it self described.

168
00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,840
Speaker 5: I haven't met I have met, and he's lovely. I

169
00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,200
Speaker 5: have met Lawrence Bender, who produced pulp fiction and Reservoir Dogs,

170
00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,680
Speaker 5: and it was actually face timed me on the carpet

171
00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,160
Speaker 5: for this movie, which was utterly surreal because I was

172
00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,240
Speaker 5: wearing a T shirt with his old logo for the

173
00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,440
Speaker 5: first film. Yeah, look, it's it's it's a trip. I

174
00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,800
Speaker 5: know that there was a There was some highly exclusive

175
00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,640
Speaker 5: agency in LA that only has twelve clients, all of

176
00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,440
Speaker 5: them are mega, mega famous, and they approached one of

177
00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,480
Speaker 5: the clients wanted to talk about the bad Guys after

178
00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,720
Speaker 5: we'd already sold it to Dreamwork. So yeah, I don't

179
00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,480
Speaker 5: know which one it was, but it was somebody like

180
00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,040
Speaker 5: the list of twelve is ridiculous.

181
00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,960
Speaker 4: They're all whole names. So I don't know.

182
00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,120
Speaker 2: So the voices in the movies, I mean, Sam, I

183
00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,679
Speaker 2: rate Sam Rockwell as an actor so much.

184
00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,640
Speaker 3: He's one of the best that the world's got at

185
00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,719
Speaker 3: the moment. So do you get it?

186
00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,120
Speaker 2: Do you in the process of mister Wolf, I mean,

187
00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,320
Speaker 2: that's your most probably crucial character in the movie. Did

188
00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,280
Speaker 2: you get a say in that or did you leave

189
00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,240
Speaker 2: that up to everyone else?

190
00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,679
Speaker 5: So the process of the big with the voice cast

191
00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,320
Speaker 5: was because it's it's strange with animation, because you can't

192
00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,880
Speaker 5: really get movie stars to audition for that time. They

193
00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,320
Speaker 5: just sort of throw in old performances, do a rough

194
00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:10,080
Speaker 5: animation and see and there was a discussion around all

195
00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,440
Speaker 5: the characters. But Sam was just like a note brainer.

196
00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,560
Speaker 5: Sam's been my you know, one of my top five

197
00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,679
Speaker 5: favorite actors since he first turned up in The Green

198
00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,559
Speaker 5: Mile back.

199
00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:19,960
Speaker 4: In the nineties.

200
00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I just love him and he's a really

201
00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,920
Speaker 5: sweet guy. So we'd met on Zoom until this this

202
00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,880
Speaker 5: premiere in LA I got to meet him in person

203
00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,200
Speaker 5: and then saw him a bunch of times when we

204
00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,760
Speaker 5: were there, and he's great.

205
00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:35,920
Speaker 4: He's such a cool guy.

206
00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,600
Speaker 3: How do you like La Aaron? Well, that was what was.

207
00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,599
Speaker 4: Weird like for ten years.

208
00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,720
Speaker 5: I mean, COVID got in the way for a while,

209
00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,400
Speaker 5: but for ten years I was either in Lura, in

210
00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,880
Speaker 5: the Blue Mountains or in Los Angeles.

211
00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,640
Speaker 4: It was one of the other. And it was such

212
00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:54,160
Speaker 4: a trip.

213
00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,360
Speaker 5: You know, it just does your head in and you know,

214
00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,040
Speaker 5: and I would I would alternate, you know, La Crazy

215
00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:10,160
Speaker 5: with Katoomba Crazy, like those two things weird, but but no, look,

216
00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,920
Speaker 5: it's it's a trippy place. And I've had the most

217
00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,679
Speaker 5: perverse and surreal experience of Los Angeles. I've never once

218
00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,240
Speaker 5: been to. I've been like fifteen sixteen times or something

219
00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,199
Speaker 5: now and I've never once been where it wasn't as

220
00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,640
Speaker 5: weird as it gets. You know, I'm at a studio,

221
00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:26,800
Speaker 5: I'm meeting whoever.

222
00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,360
Speaker 4: You know. It's it is. It is bizarre. I'm weirdly

223
00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,800
Speaker 4: quite fond of it. Actually.

224
00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,640
Speaker 5: It's something if you're a big movie fan like I am.

225
00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,200
Speaker 5: In music, it's just so sort of laden with history,

226
00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,520
Speaker 5: you know, so, but it's you know, at the same time.

227
00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,760
Speaker 4: It's it's it's I've always described as like Paramatta Road

228
00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,720
Speaker 4: with palm trees.

229
00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,920
Speaker 5: Aesthetically, I mean that's what it looks.

230
00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, upraight.

231
00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it is so exciting to see the success

232
00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,120
Speaker 1: of this, and it just news to grow and grow,

233
00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,120
Speaker 1: so your mind must run to what's next.

234
00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,400
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm in the thick of that at the moment.

235
00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,480
Speaker 3: I bet you are anything to share.

236
00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,120
Speaker 5: When The Bad Guys was finished, I finished episode twenty,

237
00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,080
Speaker 5: I announced.

238
00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,839
Speaker 4: Prematurely that I had retired.

239
00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,480
Speaker 5: I took two years because I was bugged after ten

240
00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,200
Speaker 5: years because I was doing one hundred hours a week

241
00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,880
Speaker 5: pretty much to get it all done. Because I do

242
00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,680
Speaker 5: everything I do, all the drawings and all this stuff,

243
00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,200
Speaker 5: so wow. So I had two years break and then

244
00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,800
Speaker 5: my agent, who I was talking about earlier, he said,

245
00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,920
Speaker 5: I can put it together a deal for a new

246
00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,839
Speaker 5: because I had no idea that he knew that I had,

247
00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,160
Speaker 5: which is the next thing. And I said, no, I

248
00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,560
Speaker 5: don't want to do it, and I to make him

249
00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,800
Speaker 5: go away. I thought of the silliest number I could

250
00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,000
Speaker 5: and I said, look, you can get that.

251
00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,080
Speaker 4: We can talk about it.

252
00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:58,600
Speaker 5: And he came back two weeks later and he tripled it.

253
00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:02,559
Speaker 5: So it's crazy, quite a bit out of that, absolutely

254
00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:09,640
Speaker 5: absolutely surreal. So I signed with McMillan earlier this year

255
00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,000
Speaker 5: and went over and they're great on congratulations. It was crazy,

256
00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,400
Speaker 5: but it's called the new ones called Game of Pets.

257
00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,800
Speaker 5: It's out of pets.

258
00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:19,240
Speaker 3: Love this.

259
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,480
Speaker 2: You don't seem like a man who needs indulgence, but

260
00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,520
Speaker 2: you know you've had success.

261
00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,280
Speaker 3: But is there something? Is there a luxury item that

262
00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,920
Speaker 3: you've brought yourself just to say thank you to yourself?

263
00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,920
Speaker 4: I do it all the time.

264
00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,320
Speaker 5: What my favorite though, he's actually just come home. I

265
00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,800
Speaker 5: have a it's not dissimilar to the Bad Guys car.

266
00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,319
Speaker 5: I have a Dodge Challenge.

267
00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,000
Speaker 4: That I love very dearly. And then about fifteen months ago.

268
00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,480
Speaker 5: We were driving from Melvine, Sydney and a gigantic rue

269
00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:52,280
Speaker 5: came out.

270
00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,680
Speaker 4: We're doing one hundred and ten and we're.

271
00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,840
Speaker 5: Lucky to be alive. He saved our life, the big guy. Yep,

272
00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,600
Speaker 5: a bomb and because you can't get parts. It took

273
00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,880
Speaker 5: fourteen months. But he's home and purring, purring like a kitten.

274
00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,960
Speaker 3: Well left hand drive, Aaron.

275
00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,280
Speaker 4: I know it had been it had been converted.

276
00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could buy a light now.

277
00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,280
Speaker 2: But I love this and just just quickly your inspiration

278
00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,320
Speaker 2: at home, like is the studio still the same or

279
00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,920
Speaker 2: have you have you have you decked that out.

280
00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,200
Speaker 5: Or do you still get the studio? Is it's my

281
00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,079
Speaker 5: it's my magic place. It's hard to describe people. It's

282
00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,480
Speaker 5: a little too much for people sometimes when they walk in.

283
00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,440
Speaker 5: I've it's it's quite a big space, two levels, and

284
00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,600
Speaker 5: every single surface is covered with an image that was

285
00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,680
Speaker 5: significant somehow, whether it be old movie posters or things.

286
00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,640
Speaker 5: But it's like an onslaught of imagery and I kind

287
00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,640
Speaker 5: of described to kind of describe it as the inside

288
00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:53,200
Speaker 5: of my brain.

289
00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,280
Speaker 4: On the outside, it's like.

290
00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,240
Speaker 5: A shortcut I can look ause a lot of my

291
00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,880
Speaker 5: stuff comes from taking two ideas that don't really belong

292
00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:03,040
Speaker 5: together and clicking them together. So it's like a way

293
00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,320
Speaker 5: that when I'm thinking of something, I can look around

294
00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,160
Speaker 5: and just I don't consciously do it, but things sort

295
00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,160
Speaker 5: of click by doing that.

296
00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely love it.

297
00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:15,360
Speaker 4: Aaron.

298
00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,640
Speaker 3: We're coming to the Blue Mountains. We're hanging out at

299
00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:18,199
Speaker 3: your studio.

300
00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,960
Speaker 4: You're very welcome, very welcome.

301
00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,600
Speaker 2: We'll bring a bottle of whiskey, if that's all right, mate, Aaron,

302
00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,640
Speaker 2: this is unbelievable. Bad guys too. It's out in Cinema's

303
00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,400
Speaker 2: next Thursday Advanced screenings. Now you can go suss it out.

304
00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if your kids haven't seen the first one. Now,

305
00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,920
Speaker 2: my kids are addicted to it. We watched it so

306
00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,480
Speaker 2: many times and they are so excited for the second movie.

307
00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,120
Speaker 2: We know how busy you are, sir, so we appreciate

308
00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,320
Speaker 2: your time. Thanks for coming in.

309
00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:42,800
Speaker 4: Thanks.

310
00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,960
Speaker 2: It's in Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast

311
00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,360
Speaker 2: walk great shows like this.

312
00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,800
Speaker 1: Download the Nova player by the App Store or Google

313
00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,200
Speaker 1: playing the player