WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 10 September

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome the late pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us. I'm James Macpherson with Liz stra

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<v Speaker 2>and Caleb Bond. Coming up the Queensland government's latest health

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<v Speaker 2>campaign encouraging people to do a pooh at work.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not making that up. I wish I was.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about it and show you their campaign tax wealth.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that's all you're going to show us, James.

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<v Speaker 2>The election cannot come soon enough. Plus when we look

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<v Speaker 2>at the papers, a Greens MP skipping parliament to join

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<v Speaker 2>an anti war protest, of course, and the Teals announce

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<v Speaker 2>the price for their support in the event of a

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<v Speaker 2>hung parliament. And I'll give you a spoilers. It's not small.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to all of that shortly. But first, police

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<v Speaker 2>communications are being questioned after a man suspected of throwing

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<v Speaker 2>hot coffee over a nine month old baby in Brisbane

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<v Speaker 2>last month managed to evade capture. Now the man fled

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<v Speaker 2>the scene, leaving baby Luca with horrific burns to his

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<v Speaker 2>face and his body. His mother went on radio describing

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<v Speaker 2>the attack and saying there was no doubt it was deliberate.

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<v Speaker 4>He knew exactly what he was doing that day, and

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<v Speaker 4>I knew that from how he threw this liquid onto

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<v Speaker 4>my son, I knew it was an attack straight away.

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<v Speaker 4>And the other fact that he ran away, changed his clothes,

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<v Speaker 4>went to another location and changed his clothes again. You

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<v Speaker 4>left Queensland obviously within twenty four hours, and then left

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<v Speaker 4>the country. He knew exactly what he was doing, which

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<v Speaker 4>is just unthinkable.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Police asked the public for help in locating the suspect,

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<v Speaker 2>describing him as Tan. It was up to you and

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<v Speaker 2>I to guess that when police said tan, what they

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<v Speaker 2>meant was of Asian appearance. By the time police identified

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<v Speaker 2>the man, he'd already fled the country. Former Australian Federal

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<v Speaker 2>Police Superintendent David Craig says the entire incident raises questions

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<v Speaker 2>about the way in which police had chosen to communicate

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<v Speaker 2>the incident.

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<v Speaker 3>Here he is on sunrise this morning.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the fact that he wasn't accurately reported in

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<v Speaker 5>the media. His description was reported as a proportionate person

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<v Speaker 5>of tan skin, thirty to forty years old, Well, that

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't narrow it down very much. And I think when

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<v Speaker 5>a baby has been injured, attempted murder, if you like,

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<v Speaker 5>then we need to call out exactly who we are

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<v Speaker 5>looking for. These are not racial philification terms. These are

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<v Speaker 5>identifying terms of a serious victim. He should have been

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<v Speaker 5>called out a man of Asian appearance, just like we

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<v Speaker 5>do with Southeast South Pacific Islanders or person of Caucasian appearance.

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<v Speaker 5>It didn't happen quick enough in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, of course, we don't know why the police chose

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<v Speaker 2>not to use the term Asian, and nor are we

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<v Speaker 2>suggesting that was the definitive factor in him being able

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<v Speaker 2>to evade capture.

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<v Speaker 3>But it does raise the.

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<v Speaker 2>Question more generally, Liz and Caleb, have we now reached

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<v Speaker 2>a point where authorities are afraid to use certain adjectives

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<v Speaker 2>even to describe crimes and identify suspects, for triggering members

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<v Speaker 2>of the population, And that surely has dangerous implications.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean you would have to wonder whether this

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<v Speaker 6>is a case of political correctness gone too far. And

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<v Speaker 6>of course, you know it's up to the cops to

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<v Speaker 6>explain why they did or did not immediately release the

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<v Speaker 6>detail that they believed he was of Asian appearance.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, we all saw the image there.

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<v Speaker 6>I think you and I and everyone at home could

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<v Speaker 6>say that he was of Asian appearance. So why could

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<v Speaker 6>the police not just say that upfront, and particularly now

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<v Speaker 6>we know that this fellow has abscondered, he has left

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<v Speaker 6>the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine if you had known that.

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<v Speaker 6>Detail a lay person in Queensland, if you had known

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<v Speaker 6>that detail, that you weren't looking.

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<v Speaker 1>For someone of tanned appearance.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, for heaven's sake, after you've been on holiday, James,

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<v Speaker 6>I might say you are a man of tanned appeople.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd be a man of a very good point, as

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<v Speaker 6>I was after I came a from Queensland a couple

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<v Speaker 6>of weeks.

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<v Speaker 7>But you don't say that we wouldn't want to offend

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<v Speaker 7>any beat.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>We certainly would not all the alcoholics who are suffering

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<v Speaker 6>with redness in the face. But you know, it would

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<v Speaker 6>seem such a basic thing to say he was a

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<v Speaker 6>man of Asian appearance. And the fact we weren't told that,

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<v Speaker 6>you'd have to say, is a complete bungling.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the police.

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<v Speaker 6>As for why they did it, I mean, who knows.

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<v Speaker 6>I think they need to explain it. They need to

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<v Speaker 6>come out and say, now, why we weren't immediately told

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<v Speaker 6>that if they could tell that he had a darker

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<v Speaker 6>shade of skin. Well, surely they had the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 6>see his face and know what his ethnicity might have been.

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<v Speaker 7>And Luca's mum would have known that too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>if someone's throwing scalding hot coffee on your baby, one

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<v Speaker 7>of the first descriptors she would have given them was

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<v Speaker 7>it wasn't a man of Asian appearance.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, this isn't rocket science.

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<v Speaker 7>Why would the police not want to give absolutely every

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<v Speaker 7>descriptive you possibly could to catch someone who is sick

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<v Speaker 7>enough to throw a skull beveridge on an infant?

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<v Speaker 8>Do you want to find him or not?

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<v Speaker 7>And now this begs the question would he have been

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<v Speaker 7>found if such details had been released to the public,

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<v Speaker 7>if they'd simply been told this is someone of Asian appearance.

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<v Speaker 8>Because we know that he.

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<v Speaker 7>Crossed several suburbs by foot, he caught a train, He

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<v Speaker 7>then caught a car to Sydney, where he boarded an

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<v Speaker 7>international flight and fled the country. So how many people

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<v Speaker 7>saw him in the course of fleeing on foot, catching

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<v Speaker 7>a train, getting into a car to Sydney that might

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<v Speaker 7>have otherwise been able to identify him now will never know.

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<v Speaker 8>I would be utterly ropeable.

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<v Speaker 7>If I was Luca's mum, if that was your baby,

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<v Speaker 7>and the police hadn't even bothered to say we are

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<v Speaker 7>looking for a man of Asian appearance.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, your rhetorical question, how many people saw him?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the answer is none, because no one was

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<v Speaker 2>looking for animated appearance. Everyone's taking a two weeks on

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<v Speaker 2>the beach in Queensland exactly. It reminds me of a

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<v Speaker 2>story from the UK in June where a transgendered woman

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<v Speaker 2>had been missing for two months and there were genuine

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<v Speaker 2>fears about the welfare of this man identifying as a woman,

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<v Speaker 2>and so police put out an alert. But they described

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<v Speaker 2>this person, who went by the name Sarah as her

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<v Speaker 2>she a woman. They made no mention of transgenderism or

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that it was a biological male, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they're expecting the public to find a man when they're

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<v Speaker 2>putting out a descriptor for a woman. And in this instance,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, there were genuine concerns about the welfare

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<v Speaker 2>of this person, and it seemed like police were more

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about using correct pronouns and descriptors politically correct ones,

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<v Speaker 2>rather than actually finding the person. And when you can't

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<v Speaker 2>trust law enforcement, of course I'm not saying that this

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<v Speaker 2>about this particular incident here in Brisbane, but more broadly,

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<v Speaker 2>when you can't be sure that law enforcement are giving

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<v Speaker 2>you all the information, then who can you trust? And

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<v Speaker 2>it leaves us in a pretty precarious situation when trying

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<v Speaker 2>to help the welfare of people or indeed track down offenders.

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<v Speaker 6>And as the former superintendent who we played the clip

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<v Speaker 6>from him before, David Craig, said, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 6>racist at all to identify that someone might be of

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<v Speaker 6>Asian appearance. It's just to say, well, that's what the

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<v Speaker 6>person looked like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, if it were you or I.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure they'd say it was of Caucasian appearance. One

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<v Speaker 6>wonders what they would say if it was a black man,

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<v Speaker 6>for instance. I mean, you can't say he's tanned, unless,

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<v Speaker 6>of course he's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Very light black.

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<v Speaker 6>So what would you do in that circumstance. And it's

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<v Speaker 6>pretty typical to see if say someone is of African

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<v Speaker 6>appearance sort of like, it's not unusual for the cops

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<v Speaker 6>to come out with that detail. And so given this

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<v Speaker 6>is one of the first cases we've seen in this

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<v Speaker 6>country of it not being forthcoming I think we've got

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<v Speaker 6>to ask the question and the cops owe us the

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<v Speaker 6>answer as to why it wasn't told. Because if this

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<v Speaker 6>is something that might happen going forward where we're not

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<v Speaker 6>immediately pretty obvious descriptive details about someone, how can we

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<v Speaker 6>ever fight crime?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>And this is something that has been so prolific for

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<v Speaker 7>quite some years now in the UK and America. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>the memes now run large is to is the media

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<v Speaker 7>going to tell us an accurate description of this person,

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<v Speaker 7>because they would just be to all this bombing occurred

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<v Speaker 7>or this stabbing occurred, and until there was actually a

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<v Speaker 7>screenshots of the individual as we have shown you this evening,

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<v Speaker 7>everyone's been up in arms saying why didn't you say

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<v Speaker 7>you were looking for a black man? Why didn't you

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<v Speaker 7>say you were looking for someone who fits this particular description.

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<v Speaker 8>So we know that this is.

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<v Speaker 7>Something that has become a very regular malady in our

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<v Speaker 7>other western countries. So like you say, to have the

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<v Speaker 7>first what appears to be the first instance of it

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<v Speaker 7>here in Australia, it's like, come on, guys, do you

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<v Speaker 7>want to catch the culprit?

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<v Speaker 2>On just my last point on this, it's not polite

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<v Speaker 2>to withhold the descriptive tech insulting because it implies they're

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<v Speaker 2>afraid that average Joe Blow in Australia can't cope with

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<v Speaker 2>being told some information without then stereotyping every person he sees.

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<v Speaker 3>On the street. It's not polite, it's insulting to the

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<v Speaker 3>general populace.

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<v Speaker 7>Indeed, like, oh, white people would be like they said,

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<v Speaker 7>a Caucasian throw a hot beverage on this baby, as

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<v Speaker 7>if white people could care less. We just want to

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<v Speaker 7>catch the sicko that did this for crying out loud

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<v Speaker 7>to Germany now, where the state elections last week have

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<v Speaker 7>triggered a political earthquake because the AfD party, known as

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<v Speaker 7>the far right wing, very anti mass immigration party, did

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<v Speaker 7>incredibly well in Thuringia. They got twice as many votes

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<v Speaker 7>as the three ruling establishment coalition parties combined. In Saxony,

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<v Speaker 7>they came a very close second to Angela Merkle's former.

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<v Speaker 8>Party, the CDU.

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<v Speaker 7>So the government is now put on notice by the

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<v Speaker 7>German people. We are sick of the immigration rates. We

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<v Speaker 7>are sick of the crime that these immigration people are

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<v Speaker 7>bringing to our country. Check out this headline from four

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<v Speaker 7>months ago. The government's own website in Germany, a test

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<v Speaker 7>to the fact that foreign migrants account for nearly six

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<v Speaker 7>in ten crime suspects in Germany despite only comprising fourteen

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<v Speaker 7>point six percent.

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<v Speaker 8>Of the population.

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, that was four months ago, so there's now

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<v Speaker 7>more immigrants in Germany than there was then, and Germans

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<v Speaker 7>have sent a sign to their governments we are absolutely

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<v Speaker 7>sick of this.

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<v Speaker 8>Funny thing happened on the back of that.

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<v Speaker 7>Election because the AfD had done so well, they had

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<v Speaker 7>this one seat that was going to give them a

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<v Speaker 7>voting block in parliament, and all of a sudden, nothing

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<v Speaker 7>to see here, but all of a sudden they were told, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>actually there's been a miscalculation, some sort of computer problem,

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<v Speaker 7>and that one seat that would have given the AfD

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<v Speaker 7>a voting block in parliament was then given to a

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<v Speaker 7>different party. But the government has not had completely deaf ears,

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<v Speaker 7>because we learned today that they've decided to take some

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<v Speaker 7>firmer measures regarding the immigration.

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<v Speaker 8>Rates in Germany.

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<v Speaker 7>Germany's government has announced plans to impose tighter controls at

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<v Speaker 7>all of the country's land borders, in what it called

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<v Speaker 7>an attempt to tackle irregular migration and protect the public

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<v Speaker 7>from threats by threats. It's talking about Islamist extremism, which

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<v Speaker 7>has been the streets of Germany have been fraught with

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<v Speaker 7>it for many, many months now, and again the Germans

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<v Speaker 7>are absolutely sick of it. I find this interesting off

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<v Speaker 7>the back of last night's story talking about Hungary telling

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<v Speaker 7>the EU, you guys can get stuffed. We are not

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<v Speaker 7>allowing illegals into our country, and if you do insist

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<v Speaker 7>that they come here, we're busting them to Brussels on

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<v Speaker 7>a one way ticket. And we said last night it

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<v Speaker 7>would be good to see more European countries stand up

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<v Speaker 7>to the EU and say you can't force us to

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<v Speaker 7>take illegal migrants or legal migrants against what we see

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<v Speaker 7>as the interests of our national sovereignty. And here, just

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<v Speaker 7>one day later we're seeing this play out in Germany.

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<v Speaker 7>But notice all the media are calling this a very

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<v Speaker 7>controversial call. This is very controversial, and it may not

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<v Speaker 7>some posit, it may not even be legal.

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<v Speaker 8>Only time will tell.

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<v Speaker 7>I love that some of these European countries this time,

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<v Speaker 7>it's only because the Germans have given them such a

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<v Speaker 7>belting at the state election. The parliament knows we've got

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<v Speaker 7>to act on the otherwise we're dead in the water.

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<v Speaker 7>We almost gave the AfD a voting block. We have

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<v Speaker 7>to be seen to do something about this.

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<v Speaker 8>Power to the people. It looks like it's actually happening.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about it last night and then here we

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<v Speaker 2>are Germany making changes already. So clearly the late debate

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<v Speaker 2>having incredible influence all over the world.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll tell you the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing that probably tipped them into taking action was the

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<v Speaker 2>stabbing to death of three people, of all things, a

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<v Speaker 2>diversity festival in the city of Zulian back in June.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was laws about that. Sorry, not in June,

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<v Speaker 2>it was last month. There was outrage about that. This

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<v Speaker 2>was a Syrian migrant who actually hid in an asylum

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<v Speaker 2>refugee hostel before he was eventually caught.

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<v Speaker 3>Isis claimed responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you've got a festival celebrating diversity, celebrating the

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<v Speaker 2>fact they've brought all these people, it's millions of people

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<v Speaker 2>they've brought into the country, and people are getting stabbed

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<v Speaker 2>at that event. So there's huge there's white hot anger.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah yeah, And that's only the most recent Again, just

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<v Speaker 7>like the UK, this has been playing out for a

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<v Speaker 7>very long time now and Germans have had it up

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<v Speaker 7>to here. I mean, under Angela Merkel, millions of illegals

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<v Speaker 7>and legal migrants we're is flooding into Germany. Germany is

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<v Speaker 7>no longer Germany, and I don't think it ever will

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<v Speaker 7>be the Germany that we've all known and loved for

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<v Speaker 7>a very long time.

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<v Speaker 8>It just won't be.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't let that many people into your country without

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<v Speaker 7>it fundamentally changing forever.

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<v Speaker 6>And THEU only has itself to blame for this pushback

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<v Speaker 6>against what is happening now because where Germany sits in

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<v Speaker 6>terms of is landlocked in Europe, it sits in a

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<v Speaker 6>zone that is generally free movement. Anyone can come and

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<v Speaker 6>go as they wish. Germany's finally gone. Hang on a minute,

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<v Speaker 6>this isn't working out for us. We need to take

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<v Speaker 6>control back of our borders for our country, regardless of

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<v Speaker 6>our ties to the EU. And that's why the reporting

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<v Speaker 6>has said, you know, it could be legally fraud. Because

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<v Speaker 6>we talked last night about the case with Hungary where

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<v Speaker 6>they're in trouble because they have refused access to asylum seekers,

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<v Speaker 6>cracked down on that significantly. The EU then told them, well,

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<v Speaker 6>if you don't play by our rules, we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>find you. They then refuse to pay the fine. Now

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<v Speaker 6>they've got a two hundred million euro fine sitting there

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<v Speaker 6>that they've got to pay by mid month, and if

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<v Speaker 6>they don't pay it, the EU is going to dock

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<v Speaker 6>their funding out of the EU budget. And as you said,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean they said, we'll just bust them all into Brussels.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's what they want.

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<v Speaker 6>They've said it, stick it up yours, which Germany is

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<v Speaker 6>now starting to do as well. And so you've got

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<v Speaker 6>Hungry and you've got Germany, but they need more countries

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<v Speaker 6>to get on board because no doubt the EU, like

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<v Speaker 6>they did to Hungry, will launch some kind of legal

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<v Speaker 6>challenge or they will threaten fines or other sanctions against

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<v Speaker 6>Germany for doing this. They've initially said it will be

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<v Speaker 6>a six month trial, but one imagines that if that works,

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<v Speaker 6>which you imagined.

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<v Speaker 1>It will, if they do it properly, then it will.

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<v Speaker 6>Just continue long after that. So they need other nations

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<v Speaker 6>to on board and do the same thing. Because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's great that Germany is now on board, but if

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<v Speaker 6>you've still only got two European countries in the wilderness

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<v Speaker 6>standing up for themselves and no one else backing them,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, standing behind them and doing the same. Then

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<v Speaker 6>they will come up against the same might of the

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<v Speaker 6>EU that Hungry faced, and the danger is that they

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<v Speaker 6>will start to back down.

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<v Speaker 1>They can not back down. The people have voted for it.

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<v Speaker 6>We know what they want, and ultimately what they voted

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<v Speaker 6>for is less say.

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<v Speaker 1>From the EU.

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<v Speaker 6>And as I said last night, it's no wonder that

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<v Speaker 6>the UK pulled out of the EU. Brexit went ahead,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's essentially what we need to start seeing here

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<v Speaker 6>countries pushing back and saying no, no, we want our sovereignty back.

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<v Speaker 6>We're happy to be part of a trade packed or

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<v Speaker 6>whatever it might be in terms of some form of EU,

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<v Speaker 6>but we fundamentally want our sovereignty back because the experiment

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<v Speaker 6>of the EU having total control has not worked.

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<v Speaker 8>That.

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<v Speaker 2>The other interesting part about this is that the German

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<v Speaker 2>governments specifically mentioned Islamic extra as the reason they want

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<v Speaker 2>to close their borders, and that's interesting talk, especially coming

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<v Speaker 2>from Germany. They tend to be very reticent to be

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<v Speaker 2>that specific about what the real issue is. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this represents a start we can only hope of a

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<v Speaker 2>turning point in Europe.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you do wonder if this is the beginning of

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<v Speaker 7>the end of the EU. What kind of parliament is

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<v Speaker 7>forcing sovereign countries to take in.

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<v Speaker 8>More and more foreigners.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't do that, and more and more countries are

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<v Speaker 7>saying so. It was months ago we had the EU elections.

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<v Speaker 7>France was just completely like, we hate this.

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<v Speaker 8>We won out and voted for these far right members

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<v Speaker 8>to get into.

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<v Speaker 7>The EU because they were like, for crying out loud,

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<v Speaker 7>you guys stand up for us, because they're also sick

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<v Speaker 7>to the back teeth of a lot of Islamic migration

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<v Speaker 7>into France, which again is another country which is unrecognizable

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<v Speaker 7>from the France of yesteryear. Is that we all knew

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<v Speaker 7>and once loved. But I do hope that this is

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<v Speaker 7>the beginning of a revolution. The UK paved the way,

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<v Speaker 7>said we're out of here. You guys suck, You're not

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<v Speaker 7>about the UK, you don't care about what's best for.

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<v Speaker 8>Us, So we are leaving.

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<v Speaker 7>How many more countries may one day stand up and

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<v Speaker 7>do the same, because right now we're looking at populaces

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<v Speaker 7>in these countries who are all definitively voting against.

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<v Speaker 8>What's happening in the EU.

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<v Speaker 7>And if they were to have a Brexit vote of sorts.

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<v Speaker 7>I have no doubt France would be out, Hungary would

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<v Speaker 7>be out, Germany would be out if it went to

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<v Speaker 7>a democratic election where it was up to the people

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<v Speaker 7>of those countries, and who knows how many more would

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<v Speaker 7>also vote to lead.

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<v Speaker 6>Liu just sees the dollar signs more people in the

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<v Speaker 6>EU means a bigger economy, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all they're interested in.

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<v Speaker 6>But of course individual countries know that it's all good

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<v Speaker 6>and well to have a bustling economy, but you've got

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<v Speaker 6>to have people who actually want to live in the country,

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<v Speaker 6>not just once been busting over the border. Let's go

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<v Speaker 6>to the US because, of course tomorrow will be the

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<v Speaker 6>first face off between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, the

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<v Speaker 6>first debate and probably the last debate since she became

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<v Speaker 6>the Democratic nominee replacing Joe Biden. You can watch all

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<v Speaker 6>the action here on scar News tomorrow from eleven a m.

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<v Speaker 1>But what has Kamala Harris been doing.

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<v Speaker 6>To prepare for this debate? We know, of course that

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<v Speaker 6>she's been very reticent to do any interviews. She's only

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<v Speaker 6>done one interview so far, and she had her emotional

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<v Speaker 6>support candidate Vice presidential candidate Tim Waltz there holding her

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<v Speaker 6>hand the whole time. It only went for twenty six

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<v Speaker 6>minutes in pretty friendly territory with CNN. We know that

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<v Speaker 6>she does not want to front up, so she's got

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<v Speaker 6>to work over time to get herself ready to compete

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<v Speaker 6>against Donald Trump. Well what's she been doing. She's had

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<v Speaker 6>a bloke come in to pretend to be Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>She's in a hotel room with the stage lights like

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<v Speaker 6>we have here in the studio, pretending.

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<v Speaker 1>She's talking into the man himself. Take a listen.

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<v Speaker 9>Vice President Kamala Harris. She is in her hotel in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 9>They've got the lights as if it's in a studio,

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<v Speaker 9>they've got the stage. They've even brought in somebody who's

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<v Speaker 9>dressed in acting like the former president. And then we

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<v Speaker 9>know that the former president himself is just having sort

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<v Speaker 9>of informal policy discussions from what we understand, in preparation

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<v Speaker 9>for Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how good is that?

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<v Speaker 6>And I think it goes to the point that politicians

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<v Speaker 6>in America do not front up to the media, and

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<v Speaker 6>they don't front up to the public anywhere near as

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<v Speaker 6>much as politicians do in this country. Of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the Prime minister is constantly interviewed on television. In Australia,

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<v Speaker 6>they constantly have debates in the lead up to elections.

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<v Speaker 6>They're not so afraid to front the media because they

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<v Speaker 6>know how to deal with the media, whereas in the

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<v Speaker 6>US they shield them away.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have anything.

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<v Speaker 6>To do with it, and so when they're faced with

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<v Speaker 6>something like this, they don't know what to do, which

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<v Speaker 6>is why Trump has a bit of an advantage in

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<v Speaker 6>these circumstances because Trump is a media man. He's been

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<v Speaker 6>an entertainer his whole life, so he sort of knows

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<v Speaker 6>how to conduct himself in these circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>The bloke who's.

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<v Speaker 6>Been pretending to be Donald Trump, this isn't his first outing.

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<v Speaker 6>He did this with Hillary Clinton back in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Philip Rains is his name. He dresses up, as we

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<v Speaker 6>heard before, like Donald Trump. Now we should specify, he

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't put a wig on to look exactly like him.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks nothing like.

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<v Speaker 6>Well he did once he said that in twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 6>he had a go at tanning his face a bit

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<v Speaker 6>to see if it could make him look a bit

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<v Speaker 6>more like Donald Trump, but no one particularly noticed, so

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<v Speaker 6>he gave up on that idea. But here's a little

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<v Speaker 6>kip of him preparing with Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 6>trying out to maybe a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Of violence post debate.

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<v Speaker 6>At least he didn't grab a bother you know where,

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<v Speaker 6>and I assume won't see any of that sort of

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<v Speaker 6>conduct from Donald Trump tomorrow. Trump himself, though, asked what

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<v Speaker 6>he was doing to prepare for the debate well ta

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<v Speaker 6>to listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Har specifically preparing for the debate versus Harris. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>really I'm not spending a lot of time on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my whole life we're preparing for a debate.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, you can go in and you can have

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<v Speaker 10>all sorts of sessions.

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<v Speaker 11>I watched Mick Romney go in and he worked so

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<v Speaker 11>hard he four weeks, he locked himself into a lock

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<v Speaker 11>cabit and then he developed luck jow.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't couldn't speak.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you basically, you have to be real.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, you can't cram knowledge into your head, for

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<v Speaker 11>you know, thirty years of knowledge in one week.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, the whole idea and this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>quite possibly the event that could decide the way.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people vote in this election.

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<v Speaker 6>But the idea that you would be hold up is

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<v Speaker 6>Harris in a hotel room with like bright lights on

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<v Speaker 6>you like you're in the TV studio. You've got it

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<v Speaker 6>guy there who's pretending to be Donald Trump. If she

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<v Speaker 6>shows up tomorrow and fudges it, well, she's had every

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<v Speaker 6>opportunity not to.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of unique things with this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, firstly, the debate tomorrow is the first time

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<v Speaker 2>apparently that Kamala Harris will have met Donald Trump. So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the fact she's got an impersonator there is an

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<v Speaker 2>allusion to the fact that she's a little bit intimidated and.

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<v Speaker 3>Not sure what to expect.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Donald Trump has specified there are to be no

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<v Speaker 2>platforms used.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>Is only five foot four, Trump will tower over her,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a suggestion that maybe she'll find a

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<v Speaker 2>little something to stand on to make herself look a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more, you know, presidential compared to him. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a ninety minute debate and no notes are allowed. As

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 2>you said, she's only done one interview since accepting the candidacy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was with her Vice president nominee, who she

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 2>held hands with. The entire time, so I can well

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 2>imagine she is preparing NonStop. But I just love Trump,

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 2>and he proved why. He'll be brilliant with that. Just

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 2>a random quest question and what are you doing to prepare?

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<v Speaker 2>And immediately I'm not, And he makes the point brilliantly.

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 2>He is going to wipe the floor with commandments.

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<v Speaker 7>In a word, he used the word authenticity. And whether

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.959
<v Speaker 7>you like Trump or not, he is what he is

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 7>and he never pretends to be anything else.

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 8>Some would say that's to.

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<v Speaker 7>His detriment, but people have a built in BS meter.

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 7>We can tell when someone's faking it. We can tell

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 7>when they're trying too hard. We can tell when they're

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<v Speaker 7>sweating bullets while trying to look comfortable. You don't see

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<v Speaker 7>Trump do that because he is authentic. And I think

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 7>what we're going to see tomorrow, and I cannot wait.

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 7>I've got my body weight in popcorn.

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 8>Ready to go. We will see that.

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 7>We will see this woman who is quintessentially fake.

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 8>She does not have substance.

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 7>We've been laughing about it for the better part of

0:24:56.080 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 7>three years now, versus Trump, who, like he said, I

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 7>am what I am. I don't even have to prepare

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 7>whatever the questions are I already know the answers. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>ready for this, I was born for this. That is

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<v Speaker 7>the massive difference that are people going to see tomorrow.

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 6>And you say you'll have your body weight in popcorn,

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 6>Harris has to hope that she doesn't have her body

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 6>weight in word salads, because that is where she could

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 6>really fall apart tomorrow. We know with these presidential debates

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 6>generally there's not.

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 1>A lot of policy substance.

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 6>Certainly, the debate we saw between Biden and Trump, there

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 6>was no policy substance whatsoever. It was purely a personality

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 6>clash and that's probably what you will see again tomorrow.

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.439
<v Speaker 6>And so Harris really has to watch herself because we

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 6>know Donald Trump can ramble a lot, but you sort

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 6>of expect that of Donald Trump. He sort of goes

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 6>off on tangents and whatever. So if he can lead

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 6>her in the wrong direction, whether he knows he's doing

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 6>it or not, with his rambling, she can then fall

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 6>into that trap and go off into her word salads.

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 6>At least you know where Donald Trump is going with

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 6>what he's saying, starts wheeling that stuff out tomorrow. I know,

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 6>again we all sort of expected, but this is something

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.159
<v Speaker 6>that will be watched around the world, much like the

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:09.719
<v Speaker 6>Biden debate was.

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<v Speaker 1>And if people take a look at that.

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<v Speaker 6>And go, heck, perhaps we didn't pick much better than

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 6>we had last time. It could be the thing that

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 6>sinks her. That's what she would be really worried about.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to be highly entertaining and as Caleb said,

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 2>you can watch it here on Sky eleven am tomorrow

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Australian Eastern Standard time. One of the questions Kamala Harris

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>should be asked in that debate is what on earth

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 2>went on in Afghanistan. Of course, the Biden Harris administration

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 2>withdrew from Afghanistan and it was an absolute shamozzle. They

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 2>left billions of dollars worth of military equipment behind. Thirteen

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 2>servicemen were killed, as well as hundreds of locals, and

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 2>America's enemies around the world were absolutely emboldened not to

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<v Speaker 2>mention the fact that Taliban are now in control of

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Afghanistan after all those years and all that money and

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.959
<v Speaker 2>all those lives spent trying to stabilize the country. Well,

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:01.920
<v Speaker 2>John Kirby, he's the National security spokesman for that White House.

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 2>He was asked if anyone was ever going to take

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<v Speaker 2>accountability for what happened and have listened to his response?

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<v Speaker 7>Was anyone ever held accountable by the president directly for

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 7>what happened with the withdrawal in Afghanistan?

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 8>And if not, remind the audience why not.

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<v Speaker 11>We have all held ourselves accountable for the progress of

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 11>the withdrawal cross the administration. And it was a true

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 11>interagency effort to get those one hundred and twenty thousand

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 11>people out and to make sure we removed our diplomats

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 11>and our military personnel safely. As I said, ed not

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 11>everything went according to plan, nothing ever does.

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<v Speaker 3>Was anyone held accountable? Oh, we've all had ourselves accountable?

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Then why are you still there? Why haven't you fired yourselves? Liz?

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 2>When you hold yourself accountable, it means no one is

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<v Speaker 2>held accountable.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 3>In fact, the only.

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.199
<v Speaker 7>Wrong things go wrong, you know, nothing ever goes and

0:27:56.280 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 7>completely according to plans, So leaving the Taliban billion dollars

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 7>worth of the military clement. It's just one of those things,

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 7>you know, what happens when you're withdrawing after twenty years

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 7>in Afghanistan and leaving everyone to wonder, firstly, what the

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 7>heck was the point of that in the first place,

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 7>if you're gonna leave the guys that you were supposedly

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 7>going in to beat and wipe off the face of

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 7>the earth and conquer for good two decades.

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 8>You just you didn't manage that.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 7>You leave between with your darrel between your legs, and

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 7>leave the Taliban better off than you found them with

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 7>you mute military capacity to the tune.

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<v Speaker 8>Of over seven billion dollars.

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 7>But you know, these things happen. These things happen, you guys,

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 7>and it didn't go according to plan, and nothing ever does.

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 8>But we tried.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 3>But we've held ourselves accountable. So it's all good. Move on.

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<v Speaker 6>I just I can't get know the fact that he

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<v Speaker 6>can say it with a straight face, and I know

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 6>that's his job as a press sect to you know,

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 6>spin the absolute but Jesus out of these things. But

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 6>it's we're sitting here laughing about it, but it's not

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 6>really a laughing matter to say that, to say that, oh, well,

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, not everything goes to plan, nothing ever does. Okay,

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 6>So you've by the actions you took, you have now

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 6>led to the widespread, once again subjugation of women in Afghanistan,

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 6>where they're now no longer allowed to play sport, they

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 6>can't speak out in public, they can't dance, they can't

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 6>do all the things that you would expect people to

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 6>be able to do. And of course, you know, you

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 6>often make the comparison of what the Middle East looked

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 6>like Iran, Afghanistan, you know, back in the sixties, and

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 6>what it looks like now. What was the objective of

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 6>going into Afghanistan if ultimately we pulled out and allowed

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 6>the Taliban to come back. When you pull out of

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 6>a country after going to war there, unless you have

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 6>set up something else to take over, you create a vacuum.

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean, the US created the greatest vacuum of all

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 6>time because, as you say, they left all the weapons behind.

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 6>Taliban just walked straight back in and said, oh, thanks

0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 6>very much, mister.

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Barden, you've got here for us.

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<v Speaker 6>And by doing that, they have led to the deaths

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 6>of loads and loads of people, the subjugation of loads

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 6>and loads of people. They have left them in the lurch.

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 6>They are scared for their lives, they're scared for their freedom, etc.

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 6>And that is directly what the Biden administration did, and

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 6>they just go, well, some things don't go to plan

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 6>what was the plan in the first place.

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 3>That response reminded me.

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember when Hillary Clinton was asked about the

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 2>balls up in Benghazi and they had their diplomat who

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>was horrifically murdered. Rate it was just a disgrace, And

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 2>effectively she shrugged her shoulders and said, that's one of

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 2>those things. It's the same democratic response. So when things

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 2>go wrong, they shrug their shoulders and say, oh, well,

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you know you can't get it all right, and expect

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 2>everyone to move on.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 8>But everyone does move on, which just curls.

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Make they've got the media in their pocket.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, but everyday people should be watching this play out repeatedly.

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 7>It's not the first time we've been here and just

0:30:58.280 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 7>say no.

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 8>You floods have got to go.

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 7>We are not re electing you, Like, how can you

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 7>not then vote in their home state accordingly and say no, no, no,

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 7>we remember what you did and what you didn't do.

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 8>You don't get to stay in parliament period.

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.959
<v Speaker 7>Someone who has stayed in Parliament for far, far too long,

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 7>Former Speaker.

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 8>Of the House, Nancy Pelosi, has declared.

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 7>That basically thirty percent of Republicans are racist, sexist homophobes.

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 8>Here she is during an interview letting them.

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 7>Have it, saying this is why, this is why this

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 7>certain amount of people will never vote Democrat, because this

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 7>is who they are to their core.

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 10>Why is it so close from your assessment as a

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 10>plic This is a guy who's done a lot of

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 10>things that you have characterized as thugs, the attack on

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 10>the Capitol, there is just the most the video that

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 10>came out where you're talking about he's got to pay

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 10>a price, it's clearly not paying any price. He could

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 10>win the presidency again.

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 12>There are people who will never shall we say, inclined

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 12>to support Democrats because of they just have a different

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 12>orientation to it. Whomen, people of color, LGBTQ, you know,

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 12>they just are not ever going to be there. So

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 12>say that's about like thirty percent or something like that.

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 7>And then of the Republicans, they're just you can't help

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 7>those people, you know, they're just they're in the two

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 7>hard basket. They're just sexist, racist, homophobes. This is such

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 7>old rhetoric from the Dems, and obviously they're piggybacking off

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 7>this caricature of Trump that they've created, and now the

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 7>label is applied to anyone who wouldn't support the Democrats.

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>There's a biggest story here, though, that everyone is missing.

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 2>She said thirty percent of Trump supporters a homophobic, sexist,

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 2>and racist, but back in twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton said

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent was enophobic basis.

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 3>So it just shows Republicans are improving.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 2>All that's how far they've come, correct, even in eight years,

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 2>and they'll practically be democratic.

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 6>Well, and you mentioned Hillary Clinton back in twenty sixteen.

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 6>You wonder whether this is Pelosi sort of basket of

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 6>deplorables moment. Have they not learnt that back in twenty sixteen,

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 6>insulting people who were thinking of voting for.

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Trump did not work. It embolded them.

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 6>It said, well, if you think I'm such a piece

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 6>of excrement, of course I'm going.

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>To go and vote for Trump because you don't want

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>my vote.

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 6>And that's exactly what Nancy Pelosi is doing here. I mean,

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 6>I know she's over the age of eighty and she's

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 6>dotttery and whatever.

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>But seriously, she should know.

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 6>Of all people, she's been in politics long enough, she

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 6>should have enough nouse to know that you don't convince

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 6>someone to change their mind by insulting them. And that

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 6>is continually what people like her and Hillary Clinton have

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 6>gone for. If you want Trump to win in November,

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 6>keep saying stuff like this because it makes them go, well,

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 6>if you don't want my vote, I'm going to go

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 6>and give it to someone else. Props to this guy,

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 6>by the way, Alex Steinger, Now you were you saw

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 6>that clip there? Pelosi was in Texas. She's been in

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 6>Texas launching her new book, and she was at her

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 6>book signing and this fellow mister Stinger, who is a comedian,

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 6>right wing comedian, approached her to ask a few questions

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 6>about her stock trading.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I know, I was listening.

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 9>I let me get at soul now, and I want

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 9>to say how much I appreciate your like fear staunched

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 9>the fanning of democracy.

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>It really means so so much, you know, and.

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 9>You know, like honestly, like I'm really scared about, you know,

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 9>Donald Trump winning the election.

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 8>And honestly, with Dolmand doesn't from me on that. I

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 8>was like, you know, I honestly, do you one chance

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 8>to like that? We have as to doctor Donald Trump

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 8>to actually send.

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 4>The rest of his wife in prisoner. We do all

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Nancy Lesson for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, whats what stock should I buy?

0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 9>Nancy, You're the greatest options trainer of all time, is

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 9>one of the most stocks.

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 6>And for that he got dragged away. By the way,

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 6>you should pay attention to what stocks she's buying. She

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 6>never seems to lose, does Nancy Pelosi. Before we get

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<v Speaker 6>to the break curious image we saw the other day

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<v Speaker 6>of Zara and Marke Tindall, of course of the royal family,

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<v Speaker 6>and they were at the Burly Horse Trials in Lincolnshire

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<v Speaker 6>in the UK. And I note that the kids sporting

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 6>Magic Millions caps here, so good on them for celebrating

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 6>Australian horse racing. But on their eldest child, you can

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 6>see hanging off the belt loop on her shorts is

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<v Speaker 6>an Apple tag. Now you can use an apple tag

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<v Speaker 6>to track something. People often put them on their luggage,

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 6>They put them on their pets and stuff to see

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 6>where they're going to. They've seen fit to put one

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<v Speaker 6>on their child to track her, and it raises the question,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, is it acceptable to be tracking your child

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<v Speaker 6>all the time via the means of internet as they

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<v Speaker 6>seem to be doing there. I can see an argument

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<v Speaker 6>for doing it at a big event like that, You know,

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<v Speaker 6>I suppose it's every parent's worst night mere that you

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<v Speaker 6>lose a kid in the crowd and you'd like to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to find them. I mean, you know, you

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<v Speaker 6>and I and many of us might remember once upon

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<v Speaker 6>a time, you know, you'd write a phone number on

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<v Speaker 6>a kid's arm at a big event like the Royal

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<v Speaker 6>Show or something, so if they got lost, they knew

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<v Speaker 6>he is who to call to get mum and dad.

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<v Speaker 6>But the idea that you would track beyond that in general,

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<v Speaker 6>I find a bit weird, particularly when it gets into

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<v Speaker 6>teenage years, because you're taking away any level of trust

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<v Speaker 6>in a child. And I think it's important to give

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<v Speaker 6>children a level of trust, because we know they stay

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<v Speaker 6>at home longer and longer, and they're so infantilized these

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<v Speaker 6>days that you've actually got to give them a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit of room to look after themselves and take some responsibility.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think it's got to do with trust at all.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 7>It's got to do with duty of care, because you

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<v Speaker 7>can have the most trustworthy sixteen year old who makes

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<v Speaker 7>a dumb decision, climbs into the wrong car some uber driver.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I don't think parents can underestimate how evil

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 7>some people are out there this day, in this day

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<v Speaker 7>and age.

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<v Speaker 8>Sadly, this is now the world that we live in.

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<v Speaker 7>We open the show talking about some random sicko who

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<v Speaker 7>dowsed a baby in a boiling hot coffee. No reason,

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<v Speaker 7>no relation, no just ran up and committed this crime.

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<v Speaker 7>I think parents have every right to be as vigilant

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<v Speaker 7>as they possibly can be, regardless of the age of

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<v Speaker 7>their kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish i'd been tracking my son when we're in

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<v Speaker 2>New York and I lost him in What's What's the park.

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 3>Park in New York. We're bike riding, and I lost

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 3>him for forty minutes. Eventually I saw a.

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<v Speaker 2>Police card down the road and some kid with a

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 2>bike and the bike was being put in the boot.

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 2>I thought my son I got there. Fortunately it was him,

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 2>but my son was mad because he said Dad, I

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<v Speaker 2>was just thinking about to get a ride in an NYP.

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<v Speaker 8>So is less concerned.

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<v Speaker 7>Happy to mail child though as well, because you know,

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 7>if it's a girl, you are just on the highest

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<v Speaker 7>of alerts.

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<v Speaker 8>And that is what Mia, the Tyndall's eldest child is.

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<v Speaker 8>So I don't blame them one bet.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break, but stick around

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back with what's making news in the

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<v Speaker 2>papers tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>That's alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's take a look at what's making news tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>and for Tasmanians, you are going to love the front

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<v Speaker 2>page of the Mercury.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty good, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Oh, this is the best news ever.

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<v Speaker 6>What council stopwork could mean to you? No finding zones

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<v Speaker 6>as the headline. The Hobart City Council is facing a

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<v Speaker 6>substantial hit to its revenue as a dispute between staff

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<v Speaker 6>and management threatens to boil over into industrial action, which

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<v Speaker 6>could include work stoppages and a refusal.

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<v Speaker 1>To collect parking fines from the community. How good is this?

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<v Speaker 1>We should see a lot more of this now.

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<v Speaker 6>The problem here is because the workers are complaining about

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<v Speaker 6>the pay rise they've been offered, which is three percent.

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 6>They want a bit more and so in response they said,

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<v Speaker 6>we'll bugger it. We're not going to find people for overstaying.

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<v Speaker 6>They're welcome in parking spots.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, let's have this all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm imploring, and you know, normally I wouldn't be here,

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:20.959
<v Speaker 6>you know, shouting out the unions and saying how great

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<v Speaker 6>they are and how good it is to have strikes.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm saying every council worker in the country should

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<v Speaker 6>go on strike tomorrow and threaten to not collect parking

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.319
<v Speaker 6>fines in order to get a pay rise, because I'm

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<v Speaker 6>pretty sure they're going to praie rise quick, smart and

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 6>we'll all be able to enjoy it from.

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<v Speaker 8>More industrial action.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Here first, on the Lake debate last week, we were

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<v Speaker 7>talking about the Victorian police force who wants a pay

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<v Speaker 7>rise from the Victorian government which has no money.

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<v Speaker 8>So good luck with that boys.

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 7>But they have said, well, we're just not going to

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<v Speaker 7>give out parking fines I mean speeding fines rather. So

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<v Speaker 7>Victorians rejoice because as long as it's industrial action is

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<v Speaker 7>in place by.

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<v Speaker 8>The cops, maybe you can travel a little bit faster

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<v Speaker 8>on your roads these days.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to use this opportunity to encourage in

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<v Speaker 2>your South Wales police you need more money, especially traffic branch.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, you need to put it down absolutely to the

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<v Speaker 13>front page of the OARS Now steggle Teals demand seventy

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<v Speaker 13>five percent emissions reductions, that is by twenty thirty five.

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<v Speaker 7>Zalie Stegel has led Teal MPs in calling for a

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<v Speaker 7>twenty thirty five emissions reduction target of seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 7>to be set by February, in line with Anthony Albanesi's

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<v Speaker 7>own timeline, declaring Australia quote must go from being a

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<v Speaker 7>laggard to a leader in climate action end quote.

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<v Speaker 8>God forbid.

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<v Speaker 7>But here we have the Teals and the Greens really

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<v Speaker 7>starting to reveal their ridiculous terms for if you guys

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<v Speaker 7>get a hung parliament and you guys need a bedfellow

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 7>in US, here's our terms of engagement.

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<v Speaker 8>What I can't get over is why they're doing it

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<v Speaker 8>this early on in the peace.

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<v Speaker 7>I would wait until labor is in that jam before

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<v Speaker 7>you lay your terms on the table and say, well,

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<v Speaker 7>either you're paying it or you're not.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you don't want us to do a deal with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Doesn't really matter whether you say it now or then.

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<v Speaker 6>Labor may well be in the same position, right If

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<v Speaker 6>these are the people they have to negotiate with, these

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 6>are the people they have to negotiate with.

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 1>And clearly they are so.

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<v Speaker 6>Confident that we're going to have a hung parliament that

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 6>they're like, well, bugger it, let's just put it out

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 6>there now.

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<v Speaker 1>Let it swim around for a while. Scare Albanisi a.

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<v Speaker 6>Little bit, because what they would hope is that either

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<v Speaker 6>they get their way in terms of a hung parliament

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:51.240
<v Speaker 6>or Albanizi is scared into implementing these policies before the election.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, it doesn't really matter to them, right.

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<v Speaker 6>But the best possible scenario here maybe is that Albanize

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<v Speaker 6>does get the support of the Green of the teals

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<v Speaker 6>it is a total disaster three years on from now,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you'll have coalition rain for fifteen years after that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another possibility here, and that is like, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>a hung parliament, then they will be front page headlines,

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 2>right because they'll have the deciding factor. But if there's

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>not a hung parliament, then they need to make headlines

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 2>now while it could be a possibility.

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 3>Because otherwise they're completely irrelevant.

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 2>So there is that. The scary thing is she's not

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 2>just saying seventy five percent missions reduction. She's saying at

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<v Speaker 2>least that's the minimum they're asking for, so God help

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 2>us if that ever eventuates. Let's go to the front

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<v Speaker 2>page of tomorrow's Herald Son Cops and Bludgers reads the

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<v Speaker 2>headline controversial Greens MP Gabrielle d Vitry has been slammed

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<v Speaker 2>for ditching parliament to join an anti war rally, while

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 2>taxpayers fork out up to fifteen million dollars for police

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>to try to keep the public safe. Now, as of tomorrow,

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:58.760
<v Speaker 2>there's a government sponsored weapons expo taking place in Melbourne,

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 2>one eight hundred extra police officers being deployed to keep

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<v Speaker 2>the peace, and of course those police officers would normally

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 2>be issuing speeding fines or keeping the public safe, but

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 2>they're all being as I said, diverted to mark this protest.

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 2>And you've got a Greens MP who's being paid to

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 2>be in Parliament representing her constituents, but she's taking the

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:25.240
<v Speaker 2>day off just to be a very highly paid protest.

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't expect anything less from a Green's member though, would.

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<v Speaker 7>You No, But this is a grave dereliction of duty.

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 7>You are not paid to protest on Parliament's time. You're

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 7>paid to be in there representing the people who elected

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 7>you to that halloed authoritative.

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:40.879
<v Speaker 8>Place in our nation.

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 9>And here she is.

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 8>I mean, nobody's.

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 7>Surprised, right because it's a Greens MP and they seem

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 7>to be able to do whatever radical thing they want

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 7>to do, and everyone goes, oh well, it's just the Greens,

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 7>but different rules seem to apply to them.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 8>It's expected from these guys.

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 1>But it shouldn't be.

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 8>And she can make a much more.

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 7>She could make headlines if she just made the stand

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 7>in Parliament on the floor of the chamber as opposed

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 7>to rocking up.

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 8>But this is why she did it right. She got

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 8>the headline and.

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<v Speaker 3>She also mind a protest.

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.800
<v Speaker 2>She was suspended from Parliament for two days when Parliament

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.800
<v Speaker 2>was interrupted by climate activists and she took a selfie

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 2>in parliament with the activists. Refused to apologize in that

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.279
<v Speaker 2>two days. Quickly, while we're on the Herald's son, there's

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 2>another good story on the front page. Rise of teen crims.

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Teen crooks are breaking into teen cooks are breaking into

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 2>ten times the number of homes than when Labour came

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 2>to power, amid an explosion in youth crime. Ten to

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 2>seventeen year old burglars have surged from one hundred and

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 2>nineteen cases in twenty fifteen to one thy two hundred

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and thirty in the latest financial year, and then offenses

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.359
<v Speaker 2>by children aged twelve to fourteen through the roof as well.

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Just another day in Melbourne, really.

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Indeed up on a thousand percent would you believe it?

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<v Speaker 8>Sorry?

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<v Speaker 6>On the front of the Daily Telegraph tomorrow shoots a

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 6>hole right through this plan to build so many houses.

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:08.280
<v Speaker 6>Massive public infrastructure projects like the Metro, schools and hospitals

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:09.800
<v Speaker 6>will need to go on the back burner if the

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 6>government is to meet its ambitious five year housing target.

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 6>A Landmark report has found, what a surprise. On current forecasts,

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 6>they need to build three hundred and thirtieth three hundred

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 6>and seventy seven thousand. Current forecasts are that they'll only

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:25.760
<v Speaker 6>hit one hundred and seventy two thousand.

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 1>But isn't this great.

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 6>We've got to stop the major infrastructure projects that will

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 6>service the people in all of these new.

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Houses that we are going to build, so we can

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:35.240
<v Speaker 1>build all of the new houses.

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 6>Maybe it proves, after all that we have too many

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:40.799
<v Speaker 6>people in this country at the moment and we can't

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 6>keep up with the infrastructure. If only there was a way.

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 1>To do something about that. What is it, Oh, you

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>could turn the migration tap on. What a novel idea? Hey,

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:52.280
<v Speaker 1>so novel?

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, quickly we'll do the courier mail. Health gains up

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 2>in smoke. Decades of work to drive down tobacco. You

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:01.720
<v Speaker 2>some Australia is at risk of going up in smoke

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 2>with shocking new research revealing today's generation of child vapors

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 2>we're up to twenty nine times more likely to become smokers.

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Kayleb, you've got strong opinions on this, giving me.

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 6>If they didn't jack the tobacco excise up so much,

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 6>there wouldn't be a black market that allows kids to

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 6>walk into any shop by a vape.

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Government, you've done it yourselves, your dopes.

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break, but stick around

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back. The new Queensland government health campaign

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<v Speaker 2>encouraging workers to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do a poo at the office. Seriously, that's coming up

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<v Speaker 3>in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>We all understand that governments wage campaigns to improve public

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<v Speaker 2>health than many of you would remember the Life being

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<v Speaker 2>a campaign which was brilliant. Well, this one is not

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<v Speaker 2>like that one. The Queensland Government have launched a campaign

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<v Speaker 2>called and I quote It's okay to pooh at work.

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<v Speaker 2>They say in the campaign lots of people find it

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to poo in public toilets. We're here to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you it's okay to go number two at work. Then

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<v Speaker 2>they number of Health problems that result if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>exercise your bow regularly. The campaign is said to try

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<v Speaker 2>to overcome people's and I quote Pooh paranoia. People apparently

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<v Speaker 2>are afraid to go to the toilet at work because

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be judged by the sounds and the smells that

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<v Speaker 2>they make. Here is the campaign, I just want to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just say?

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<v Speaker 2>The lyric is I just want to be part of

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<v Speaker 2>your symphony? Will you hold on tight and not let

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<v Speaker 2>you go? I'm just not sure that really works.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just finish with this.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually advertise here's a tip. Remember that everyone poops.

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<v Speaker 2>Visualize someone famous on the toilet like Taylor Swift. This

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<v Speaker 2>is government advice in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that where she writes her songs or something? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, you know they can't get anyone into a hospital,

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<v Speaker 6>but they can tell you to put work do it

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<v Speaker 6>on company time. Getting paid to go to the toilet

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<v Speaker 6>is my advice. But that's not the only thing people

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<v Speaker 6>are holding in The coppers in the UK Mail coppers specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>Are struggling with crushed testicles. Would you believe it?

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<v Speaker 6>Because they discovered that the uniforms were sexist.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from a recent news report.

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<v Speaker 6>It says the idea for unisex uniforms follows a study

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<v Speaker 6>last year at Lancaster University Law School which found that

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<v Speaker 6>police uniforms were designed by and for men's sexist uniforms, so.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to be unisex.

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<v Speaker 6>But however, speaking about the latest survey, Goodwin told The

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<v Speaker 6>Sun during a survey gwint mail police officers complained of

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<v Speaker 6>experiencing crushed testicles because presumably they're wearing women's pants.

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<v Speaker 1>How good is this?

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<v Speaker 6>So you've got to go to the toilet when you're

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<v Speaker 6>at work. We haven't worked out that you can do that.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you're a copper your testicles are getting crashed.

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<v Speaker 6>No wonder people aren't signing up with the police force

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<v Speaker 6>any more.

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<v Speaker 1>Good heavens.

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<v Speaker 2>I genuinely am afraid to look at the news. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows what it will bring? That's it from us

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<v Speaker 2>stick around. Coming up is the Reader Penning Show.