WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 22 October 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:05.479 Wait, welcome to the Late Babes. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.360 Good evening and welcome to the show. I'm Liz Storer 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.640 and I'm so glad you're here. Filling in tonight for 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:19.000 James McPherson and kayleb Bond. We have Joe Hildebrand and 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:20.760 mister kell I'm. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.360 Glad you're here too, so much. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:27.960 Sometimes I do wonder. Coming up tonight, parents suing a 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:31.600 school district after their son gets a very poor grade 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:36.480 for giving in an assignment that was written by AI. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:38.920 What on earth is the world coming to? That's what 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.800 they're suing the school district for more on that later 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.640 and coming up in the papers. Still Works are losing 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:51.920 a million dollars a day, and Australia's mid not midlife crisis, 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:57.080 midwife crisis. Who's going to deliver the babies of the future? 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.400 Those numbers coming up. But first tonight, I've got to 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.960 take my hat off to one of my all time favorites. 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.040 He's a former Labor senator. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.760 His name is Joe de Bruin. He was also a 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.800 union boss for a very long time. I remember the 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.800 first time this guy came to my attention was when 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.720 I saw this iconic photo of him sitting at the 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:24.880 ALP National Conference back in two thy and fifteen. The 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.559 conference was giving Pennywong a standing ovation after she'd. 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:30.280 Done a massive backflip. 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.440 She'd initially said that same sex marriage wasn't something that 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:38.000 she needed to validify her relationship and then did a 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.600 massive one to eighty saying it was absolutely essential that 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:46.760 this was past. And there he is sitting silently resolutely. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.160 I will not yield. He's always been a very. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:54.040 Devout Catholic and Australia was reminded of this today when 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.760 this headline popped up, because it seems the man has 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:02.840 not changed his convictions and people can't stomach it. Yesterday 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:07.760 he was at the Australian Catholic University accepting an honorary 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:12.920 degree an honorary doctorate for quote outstanding support for the 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:17.440 Catholic Church in Australia end quote. So he did not 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:22.560 waste the opportunity to espouse some strong Catholic views on 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:27.919 a number of contentious issues like abortion, like IVF for 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:33.600 single women, like homosexual marriage. To quote some of his speech, 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.960 he said, over eighty thousand unborn children are killed by 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:41.360 abortion in Australia each year. Worldwide, the estimated number is 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.000 forty two million per annum. Abortion is the single biggest 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.000 killer of human beings in the world, greater by far 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.639 than the toll of human life in World War Two. 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.160 It is a tragedy that must be ended. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:54.680 Well. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:59.760 People couldn't stomach this, A devout Catholic espousing Catholic views, 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:06.240 that Catholic university graduation ceremony. They left in the droves 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.760 while he was still speaking. Check it out of confidence. 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:21.880 So as I worked with the crime and with. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:28.160 Many alphas, those who remained gave him a standing ovation. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.400 And today I was so delighted to read that he 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.640 wouldn't change a thing he said. After the media for 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.520 raw started over how dare he make these comments, he 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:42.120 simply said, I wouldn't change a thing, wouldn't apologize, wouldn't 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:46.240 succumb to the usual media nitpicking that follows these things, 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:50.839 where we constantly see conservatives then coming out saying. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.360 I'm so sorry, I didn't mean. 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:56.960 To offend anyone. This man is unapologetic for his beliefs. 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.320 I love this, Joe. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:02.880 I actually I genuine so missed these titans of the 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.560 labor right that we used to have. I remember Joe 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.760 Bullock as well resigned from the Senate because he refused 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:14.320 to back Labour's policy of mandated support for gay marriage, 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.279 and he simply wouldn't do it. The conviction politicians of 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.000 today you could count on one hand. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.320 But they used to be a lot more in the 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:23.040 Labor Party. 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.000 Yeah, the Labor Party used to be able to make 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.839 room for them. And this is sort of where I sit. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.440 I disagree with a lot of what Joe de Brun said, 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.280 but I think he should absolutely be allowed to believe it, 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.800 and I think the Labor Party needs people like him 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.320 in the party to provide a kind of counterweight to 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.600 some of the more crazy, kind of ideological pursuits of 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.760 the left. So it was Joe that stopped Julie Gillard 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.839 pursuing same sex marriage. He refused to give it the okay. 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.839 And he's extremely powerful, Like he was most powerful not 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.400 as a Senator, but as head of the Shop Distributed 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:02.159 and Allied Employees Association affectionately known as the Shoppies, which 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.640 is the most powerful union in the Labor Party, also 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.400 probably the most low profile, but they have the biggest membership, 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.080 maybe something like two hundred thousand members or something like that. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.400 And that means they have the biggest representation at labor 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.360 conferences and they wield an enormous amount of power. And 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.279 if Joe de Brune didn't give you the green light 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.760 on something, that's it. It's dead in the water. And 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:29.240 so there's all this I suppose quiet power, back room 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.120 power behind closed doors that a lot of people used 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:32.960 to think, well, this is terrible, this is awful, we 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.200 need to cut union influence over the Labor Party. But 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.840 of course, as soon as they started doing that, all 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.279 the activists from the Ragavol branches sort of flowed in 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.840 and started doing crazy things that made the Labor Party unelectable. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.880 And so someone like Joe de Brune was actually a 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.839 really effective And again, if you had Julia Gillard, and 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.839 this is going to sound very critical and cruel, but 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.679 if you have Julia Gillard, who was someone from the left, 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.320 not besaying she was back from the right, but she's 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.919 from the left. She's unmarried herself, and then suddenly she 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.320 says and we're going to propose same sex marriage. That 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.040 would have been electoral suicide. I mean, she only scraped 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.679 over the line in twenty ten, as it was. Anyway, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.920 it often takes right wing people from the right of 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.799 the Labor Party or the right of the political spectrum 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.120 generally to do progressive things, because if someone progressive does 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:23.960 a progressive thing, people like, oh my god, you know 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.280 she's a Satanist witch. You know she's going to destroy 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.680 Western civilization. And so Joah Brout Maybell have actually done 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.440 her a favorite, denying her something that she wanted to do. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.599 But that's just one example. The other thing, though, that 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.360 I think this proves is something that I know I've 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.119 been trying to convince you many a time of which 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.719 is that the Catholic Church is actually a very broad 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.200 dare I say small Sea Catholic Church, No, A lot 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.279 of very progressive people in it who do support same 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.560 sex right, so who do support abortions obviously always been 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.119 a difficult one for the Church, but who are much 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.160 more ahead of the game and much more sort of 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.080 modern if you like, and the Church has been in 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:01.440 the past. 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:05.160 So they're the one god to say the young Friend, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:06.160 the Bible. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.440 Or any Catholic doctrine, but kel, I love to see 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.920 a man of conviction. I wish we had more in 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:17.119 our parliaments. Sadly, I can only pretty much name they'd 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.600 all fit. On one hand, they would these days. But 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:24.280 I've often said, even someone like Bernie Sanders, a rabid socialist, 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.600 I wouldn't agree with him on anything. And yet this 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.640 is a man of conviction and I can respect him 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.400 to the hilt for that because you can see, you know, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.240 these photos of him as a teenager being hauled out 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:40.760 of protests, you know, campaigning for the Marxist of his day. 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:45.720 But why have we so few were these nowadays in 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.480 an Australian politics. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:52.360 Because we've professionalized politics. Now you join young labor at 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.600 university and then you work your way through that. Then 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.960 you get a job in a member's office or a 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.520 minister's office, or you work for a union for a while, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.920 and then when you've worked as an assistant in the 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.840 Labor party, then you get nominated for a seat, and 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.840 then you get elected and you never have anything to 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.080 do outside of politics. So all you need to do 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.640 is to have a partisan view of the world and 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.320 not actually think through the issues. I mean, I was 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:21.040 thinking at that event and thinking of the audience as 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:22.880 well as Joe de Brun. Why do they have to 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.640 get up and walk out? I mean, why couldn't they 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.040 have been like Joe Hildebrand. I mean, we need more 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.880 Joe Hildebrands in the world and just sit there and think, well, 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:32.440 I don't agree with that bit, and I don't agree 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.439 with that bit, but he's got a right to say that. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.240 Why And I was trying to work out why they 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.120 did it. I think it's to do with the fact 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:45.120 that abortion has been so oversimplified. All they can do 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.720 is have an emotional reaction. I mean, it's possible to 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.600 have an intelligent debate. It's possible to say, you know, 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.920 there's no such thing as abortion, there's early term abortion, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.040 late term abortion. All the surveys show most people are 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.160 opposed to late term abortions. You could have a sort 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:03.520 of debate about the real complexities and an intelligent debate. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.960 But for some reason, lait debate if you will, though. 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:09.880 We've got left who are incapable of that. 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:15.200 Though one word, I'm going no, that's nonsense. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.840 Yeah, indeed, And you would have thought that he was 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:22.679 in a safe space espousing these views being a Catholic university, 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.320 But sadly no, A lot of the people I know 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:29.280 who work in Catholic institutions, be it schools or unis, 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:33.360 have sadly told me they are lost to the left. 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.480 It's a sad state of affairs. But you would remember 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:41.160 the curious case of the main Khalif, who made headlines 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:46.000 during the latest Olympics in Paris being an Olympic boxer 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.960 and winning gold. Now, to shrink the story down for 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.280 you and give you a quick synopsis, the International Boxing 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.400 Association claimed that. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.000 Khalif had returned a chromosome. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:04.440 Tests proved that they had X Y chromosomes, but the 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.200 Olympic committee said, no, no, that. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:08.040 Is a furfee. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.400 We've seen no proof of it. We're not running another test. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:13.520 We're just going to back this person. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:13.880 To the hilt. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.679 I think that's because they didn't want egg all over 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.640 their face. They'd already allowed Khalif to enter the competition 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.000 and didn't want to be seen as pulling the rug 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:28.320 out from underneath a certified competitor at that point. Well, 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:32.040 they've now made headlines again today announcing I would like 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.360 to hold a press conference today to share with you 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.800 my success story with the media, family and young women 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.000 who watch me. There is a documentary being prepared about 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.280 my success story and it will be shown on international platforms. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:49.720 I will soon enter the world of professional boxing. I 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.880 have many offers. Now, there's been a lot of talk 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:58.839 about this because Khalif is still not returned a chromosome test. 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.120 You'd think it's a very very simple way to settle 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:06.200 the score, put all the rumors to bed. Simply say Okay, fine, 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:10.120 I did a chromosome test. I'm xx. Can everyone please 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:15.520 leave me alone? And still we are speculating endlessly, Joe, 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:19.160 is this another case of a DSD athlete who has 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.640 what they call different sex disorder, which means they do 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:27.160 indeed identify as female and our female. However, they do 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:32.680 have x Y chromosomes, which does give them an undeniable 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.120 advance against women. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.240 Maybe maybe it does. But that's why I have a 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.880 lot of sympathy for this woman because it's not someone 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.280 it's not someone who you know, a man who is 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.880 competing in male sports wasn't doing very well and that haha. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.920 I know what I'll do. I'll identify as a woman. 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:47.600 I'll get it so it's change, and then I'll use 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.360 my incredible testosterone that I picked up, you know, in puberty, 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.000 along with you know, listening to a White Snake and 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:58.080 guns n' roses and you know, driving by Ford Falcon 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:04.200 at one hundred kilometers now dominated because says, this is 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.760 someone who was has always been treated as a woman, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.760 who has raised as a girl, treat treating female her 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.840 entire life, just happens to be born with this strange kind. 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:19.960 Of chromosome matters because a Y chromosome makes a difference. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.360 People with Y chromosome so however, they identify whatever their 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.680 medical condition might, but if you've got a Y chromosome, 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.200 you will on average be taller, stronger, and faster than 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.000 people who don't have a Y chromosome. So people with 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:36.120 a Y chromosome competing against people with XX chromosomes have 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.560 got on unusual. It's like using a performance enhancing drug. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:41.800 It's like cheating. You know, I'm not going to use 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.600 a performance enhancing drug because I don't need to. I 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.199 was born with a Y chromosome. So that's why the 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.640 chromosome tests have to be done, have to be supplied 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:54.080 to officials, have to be public because having a Y 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.520 chromosome and competing against people who don't is cheating. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.280 I reckon that should just get rid of all the 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.320 rules none, let it go absolutely free for all all 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.920 the drugs you want to do your worst. If I 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.520 got idea, it's not like it's a fair fight. I've 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:12.120 made Shaquille O'Neil going to, you know, shoot some herts together. 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.920 He's probably gonna win. Well, that's not fair because he's 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:15.439 just got. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:20.280 Better nat to his chromosomes due to his gees. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:20.920 That's the same. 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.920 Believe it or not, this is not uncommon. Since the 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:28.240 early two thousand, over seven Olympic medals have been won 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.560 in the women's category by DSD athletes, So this is 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.120 something that should be cut and dry. Someone has an 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.800 obvious advantage. Back in twenty nineteen, Kell this is exactly 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:44.120 what the Court of Arbitration for Sports ruled. They said, 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.679 anyone with the SD has an obvious advantage against x X. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:49.960 Actually but the Y chrome. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:51.440 It's as simple as that. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:52.200 And yet we. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.520 See the Olympic Committee, the most elite committee in the world. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:59.200 There are looking after the most elite athletes saying no, no, 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.640 you get a repass. And now this person is going 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.520 on to potentially bash up women all over the world. 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.560 I mean, we're supposed to be against what is the 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.040 professional like whatever body you go, like the WBA or 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.960 whoever it is. What is the professional body then going 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:15.280 to do. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.760 With anyone to do. I'll give you the solution. The 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.280 solution is we've worked for a long time with just 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.120 two categories, male and female sports. Instead of that, you've 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.840 got male sports, female sports, and open. If you have 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.600 three categories, people who don't clearly fit into mail because 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.280 they identify as being women, but they've got a Y chromosome, 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.040 so they don't fit into the they can compete in 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.920 the open, and anyone else can Anyone with a Y 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.480 chromos who thinks they can take them on, anyone can 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.680 compete in the open. You simply set up categories to 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.080 solve the problem. You don't wring your hands, and you 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:50.160 don't throw in figure athletes females. 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.200 I think you're describing a level of professionalism in fairness 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.840 to professional boxing that doesn't quite compute understanding of it. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.000 Think the whole idea is that you find the two opponents. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.880 So we're going to generate the most amount of hype, 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.360 the most amount of money. You get someone who's going 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.640 to broadcast it on pay per view for the most 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.240 amount of money that they will pay you the promoter. 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.280 I'm thinking of just imagining myself as Don King. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.920 Typically it's fraught. I mean, yeah, sure, that's a professional boxing. 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:17.560 That's what you do when you're running. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.320 Not some washed up has been with the famous day, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.160 some young kid that's got to beat them. Jesus out 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:24.240 of it. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.800 Joe is giving into cynicism. There's no need to. There 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.280 are actually professional sports people who understand the issue and 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.040 who want to do something about it. Nicole Powers is 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.120 a professional golfer. Nicole Powers is someone who was born 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:44.480 male and decided that he strokes, she felt female and 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.360 so became female. What treatment Nicole Powers is how, I 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:52.080 don't know, but has competed with the Y chromosome in 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.720 professional golf and now says not going to do that anymore. 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.600 I was pushed into doing it by the trans movement. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.480 Because the trans movement, I thought it was really important 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:05.360 that I pushed myself in there. So this trans golfer 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:10.200 is now discussing a decision to stop competing against biological females. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.840 Say I'm not actually a woman. A great move, isn't it. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:14.920 A biological woman? 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:19.520 It is, indeed, And here is the palace biological, the 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:23.480 cold palace, explaining how they came to this conclusion. 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:26.880 I didn't necessarily see that I was part of the 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.960 problem because you know, you're kind of force fed this 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:36.000 information that your existence is not the problem, and you 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:42.080 know you should enter women's spaces without restraint. And it 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:47.480 wasn't until I saw real problems occurring within women's sports 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.560 that I had to take a step back and realize 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:57.080 that biological you know, biological realities are real, and competitive 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:02.280 advantages will always exist despite a number of years you've 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:07.080 transitioned or whatever surgeries and hormones you've done, and then 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.639 understood that my place is not in women's sports. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.639 This was such a heartening interview. It was just pure 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:20.280 common sense Nicole Powers talking about even even those arguments 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.080 that are about oh, well, hormone levels and we test 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.160 et cetera. She's like, you can just take a double 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:29.400 dose of estrogen before you go do those tests, and 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.919 you've totally fixed the whole result of the test. So 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.240 it's very easy to cheat. And this was heartening because 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.719 it just goes to show that someone in this predicament 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.720 when actually this is very unfiry to the women that 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:44.280 I keep eating. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:44.880 That's struight Srure. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:45.240 I look at it. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.760 It's very I think it's very noble of her and 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.320 it's obviously very thoughtful, and you can hear from what 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.000 she's saying that she's clearly, you know, reflected on this 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:54.399 very daily. But I think there'd be a bunch of 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.040 other people who would think, well, hang on a minute, 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.040 you know, this is my love, this is the one 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.520 thing I've dreamt of doing my whole life, you know. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.400 And again I acknowledge that there's many scenarios and which 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.000 it must be terribly unfair to female athletes and depriving 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:07.800 them of their own dreams. I'm sure there must be 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.600 a way that we can accommodate some kind of solution 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.040 or treat things on a case by case basis. But 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.000 I think, you know, I mean, the obvious, the obvious 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.159 sort of inspiration to look to would be, you know, 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:23.000 Caitlyn Jenna, who did it properly and went out and 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:24.679 what all her effects of the mends. 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:27.000 And then transition. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.960 But this is really heartening, Kel because this is someone who. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.600 Has simply recognized this is completely. 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.919 Unfair and speaks at length about how she came to 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.399 that conclusion and why she's now just decided I'm not 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.359 going to do it anymore. They actually tell the story 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.480 of how even while they were still competing against females. 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.280 They would hold back because they realized, if I operate 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.919 at full strength here, I'm going to beat you guys, 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.320 and I actually can't bring myself to do it. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.960 Yeah, that's right. Nicole Powers would have had a drive 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.360 that went much further down the field right than any 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.600 female golfer, even a really good female golfer. The thing 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:10.120 I found most interesting in that interview was when Nicole 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:14.959 talked about the pressure from the trans movement. The trans 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:19.240 movement has become really intolerant, really bullying, and it's not 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.639 we think it's putting pressure on us, you know, and 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.200 telling us, you know, the pronounces you use are really important, 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.280 and we're going to bully you if you don't get 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.480 it right. It seems to me that they're also putting 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.200 pressure on people within the trans community. You've got to 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:33.920 stand with us, You've got to do what we tell 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:34.280 you to do. 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.560 This is a they want another trophy on the man. 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:41.520 Any sort of subgroup within in a community that functions 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:43.720 like that is not healthy. 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.159 I don't think, knowing a little bit about this, that 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.880 I don't think it's not the whole sort of trans 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.640 community or people who are trans so do it. There 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.120 is a small hardcore grow and it's with the gay 0:19:56.119 --> 0:20:00.119 community as well. The vast majority are just normal, course of. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.359 Them smart, yea. They relate to one of other people. 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:04.760 And there's a bunch of sort of what you might 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:08.000 call queer Marxists. And there is the same with the 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.639 trans movement, where you have these really and the trans 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.840 thing is almost a mcguffin. It's just it's a bit 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.359 like Israel Palestine, you know, It's just it's they just see, 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.560 this is the next fight, this is the next revolution, 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.439 This is the next oppressed group we have to fight for. 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.040 You know, We've done it for black people, for women, 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.320 for gays. Now this is the new oppressed people. And 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.280 anyone who says that they shouldn't get everything they want 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.600 instantly is a fascist, is a bigger and blah blah blah. 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:38.560 And it's those ones who not only i think, freak 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.359 out people on the right, but also make life really 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:46.399 really difficult for sensible, normal people on the sort of 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:48.280 left side, the center left side, who are just trying 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:51.119 to sort of find some kind of reasonable compromise or 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.320 just trying to find, you know, make everything equal. These guys, 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.159 there are some really quite fair angry people on the 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:00.440 extreme left, for whom even progress is never good enough, 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.000 and they get, you know, even when you get a 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.840 good result from a government on something like you know, 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.480 gay gay conversion therapy or recognize changing persons or something, 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.159 that will still be angry and still be attacking the 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:16.280 people actually because they still didn't get everything they wanted. 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.920 So there is an ugly, like with everything, there is 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:23.000 an ugly extreme kind of wing that then makes the whole. 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:24.840 They are the property. Look, can I say there's another 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.200 problem we need to address, And I'm talking here about 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.480 the thing that you most deeply and sincerely believe in 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.199 your money. Because your money that you've got in a 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:36.000 bank is your money. It belongs to you. But if 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.720 something goes wrong technologically, suddenly you don't have access to 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.560 your money. It's happened to Westpac, It's happened to a 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:45.000 number it's happened to a number of banks where suddenly 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.720 they're out for some hours at a time, you can't 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.520 use your credit cards. If it's a small business operating 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:52.800 a business depending on a link to that particular make 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:56.879 they can't function. So there's now discussion that the only 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.600 sensible thing to do to protect yourself and protect your 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.520 money is not to have one bank, have at least 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:06.080 two banks when one bank is not functioning. So complaints 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.360 have rolled into the authority about this, about the Westpac 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:15.240 outages and the Commonwealth Bank duplicate charges, the disrupt access 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:17.720 to customers money. And the answer is, we're being told 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:21.600 by Professor Elizabeth Sheedy. The answer is that you need 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.280 to have at least two banks. Now, my wife is 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:26.720 very smart about money. Is why ahead of them she's 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:27.560 got two banks. 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.919 So long before the advice, we've already got the bases covered. 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.640 Everyone should be banking with two banks, it says the professor. 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.160 So I can understand that, and I think it makes 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:39.080 a lot of sense. We are very vulnerable. Once your 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:41.639 money is in the bank, you can lose access to 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:45.040 it because of our software glitch, because of a hardware breakdown, 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:48.439 because of a hacker breaking in, or an electromagnetic pulse. 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.640 Every few hundred years is a massive electro magnetic pulse 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:53.879 from the sun. If one hits, it wipes out all 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:57.080 the computers and you've got no money. Look, there are 0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:59.399 a bunch of things that can happen, so you can't 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.440 depend on the electrons put not your favorite electrons. 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:07.560 No electromagnetic pulse wouldn't wipe out all the money in 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:09.399 both the banks. You had your money. 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:10.760 If that happens. 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:16.080 If that happens cash under the mattress scenario. 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:17.720 I don't think that's how it works as well as 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:21.440 two banks keep money in cash always. 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:25.600 I discovered this recently, literally just yesterday, my bank canceled 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:28.679 my card because it had expired, well was at the 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:30.560 end of this month, so they'd sent me out a 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.080 new card to the wrong address. So they said, well, 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:35.160 we've got to cancel that one. But because it has 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.640 the same number as my current one, I was then 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:42.160 left with zero access to my own accounts, and had 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.399 I not had a stash of cash, I wouldn't I 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:48.199 wouldn't be able to spend money until when new I was. 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:52.800 Just watching this now, going I wonder what I knew addresses? Yeah, 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:55.239 I don't know. I always like to have a bit 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.879 of I was I was shamed by back in the 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.800 old days when I was a dirty, rotten smoker years ago. 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:03.399 I was shamed by the guy at the kiosk at 0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:08.320 Central station. But I realized I didn't have cash and 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:10.800 tried to pay with my card, and he just looked 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:14.480 at me. Come on, Joe, you know aboutter, you know 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:19.640 about it, and I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And so i'd 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.440 always do carry a bit of cash. I find that 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.400 there are certain industries that definitely prefer cash. And yes, 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:28.080 that's right, I'm talking about that cleaning trade. 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:30.760 Also nail salons. 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:35.080 Now I'll even give you a discountain. 0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:38.520 My barber, the guy who did this, who did this haircut, Yeah, 0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:39.919 he likes a bit of cash. 0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.000 The bloke whomers your lawn will always want it want 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:47.960 a bit of always cash. Rowan Dean keeps arguing, and 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.359 Rowan's been arguing with this for some time. If you 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.119 run it all on on plastic, you run it all 0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:57.640 on credit cards, you're vulnerable. If something happens, even if 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:00.200 a policy is set up, you can be debanked. Are 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:02.879 your bank if they decide they don't like your politics 0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.720 has happened to nineteen in Britain, Then you could be 0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.160 debated and you can have no access. So he said, 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.000 the more we work with cash, the better for us. 0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:16.360 To the States now where the campaign for Kamala is 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.240 just becoming so miserable. Can you imagine being one of 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:23.359 her staffers right now. Here's a former campaign manager for 0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:28.080 Obama back in the day speaking to mainstream media explaining 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:31.760 what these guys are up against, the names they're being called, 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:35.040 and how team spirit is at an all time low 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:35.920 on Team Kamala. 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:40.880 So there's really difficult decisions being made in Wilmington right 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.359 now about what you do with her time, what you 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.639 do with the sarrogates time. You know, there's competing things 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:49.640 that the press team wants are on these TV interviews, 0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:51.880 The fundraising team wants her to do one more big 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.400 event in Ack City. The battleground states are saying we've 0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.600 got to have her three more times in Michigan, and so, 0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.800 you know, making those decisions becomes. 0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.840 The most important thing. It's why you see. 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:07.359 These campaign people on TV and they look absolutely exhausted 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.639 because everyone is telling them they're band of idiots and 0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.560 they should do it their way. 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:19.960 She's also notoriously hard to work for. When she took 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:24.040 the VP office back in twenty twenty one. Since then, 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.680 the people that she hired, ninety two percent of them 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:32.760 have left. It's an unprecedentedly high turnover rate in the 0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:36.640 VP's office. Joe, this is just embarrassing. And now we're 0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:40.640 hearing about how beliegued they are. There's all we're always 0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.520 been claims of bullying and how it's such a toxic 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:47.520 workplace as these staffers have been leaving her office, the 0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:51.640 scruntled employees all round, and now these guys, given how 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.399 she's performing in the polls so close to the election, 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.600 you can imagine how they're Feelingsiz is sorvil though. 0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.560 The most advising thing about that clip, as you had 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:03.159 Jen Saki, who is the former White House for Biden, 0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.680 looking like the worst possible smell had just descended in 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:08.000 the air. 0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:13.879 It's talking about her beloved Dems in such that's right, 0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:17.560 and I think she probably would have had some knowledge 0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.120 of dealing with Karmela firsthand. 0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.920 I imagine. I imagine it's a lot like the sitcom Deep, 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.000 which is pretty much a documentary for anybody who's worked 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:30.000 in politics the best you know from you know, having 0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.119 sort of reported on New South Wales politics in the 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.800 sort of dying days of the last long term labor government. 0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:41.879 There you just the biggest indicator of crisis is staff turnover. 0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:46.479 Barnn the biggest indicator of someone who is a rampant 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.919 narcissist with no capacity to actually do the job. Is 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.120 staff turnover daylight. 0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.359 Walking out the door can be very enlightening, and that 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:57.920 ninety two percent quite a few of them walking out 0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.800 the door set she doesn't want to be as and 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:02.360 she won't rebriefing document. 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:03.159 We can tell that. 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.159 Explains a whole lot of speeches and a whole lot 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.760 of interviews. She hasn't read any briefing documents, and she 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:10.200 hasn't listened to any advice. 0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:14.120 And we all know that she's absolutely terrible without an 0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.760 auto que. And this was made painfully obvious at a 0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:21.480 town hall meeting recently, where we all know the point 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.360 of a town hall is to get questions from the audience. 0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.240 It's a very one on one experience. People are supposed 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.119 to feel like, Oh, I'm getting to know this person 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.680 and they're so accessible, this is marvelous. Well, check out 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.959 what the audience was told when one of them asked, 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.120 when do we get to ask questions of Kamala? 0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:42.040 You're not. 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:46.800 Unfortunately, we have some pre determined questions and I hopefully 0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.520 I'll be able to ask some of the questions that 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:49.440 might be in your head. 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:53.480 I hope. So you're just here to shut up and 0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:54.280 listen to. 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:58.600 Pre planned questions that she's been given in advance, and 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.960 her team have prepared answers for her well. Much like 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:06.200 Kel said, I don't think she'd read the brief because 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.840 this town hall was an absolute sious muzzle of word 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:14.280 salad after word salad. He has one short, painful clip 0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:16.280 for your delectation and delight. 0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:25.480 We cannot despair, We cannot despair. You know, the nature 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.480 of a democracy is such that I think there's a duality. 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:34.440 On the one hand, there's an incredible strength when our 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:38.520 democracy is intact, an incredible strength in what it does 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.960 to protect the freedoms and rights of its people. 0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:44.160 Oh, there's great strength. 0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:49.880 In that, and it is very fragile. It is only 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:50.880 as strong as our. 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.959 Willingness to fight for it. What are you saying? What 0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.880 are you talking about? Do you even know? 0:29:58.520 --> 0:29:58.880 Lady? 0:29:59.000 --> 0:29:59.840 This was so. 0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:04.560 I watched more than that, and I was for choice 0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:09.320 in picking a clip to play tonight to demonstrate just how. 0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:10.000 Bad she is. 0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:11.640 When she's not reading off an auto kid. 0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.080 She's actually trying to do what it called platitudes. That 0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:18.080 is really nice sounding phrases that every motherhood and apple 0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.600 pie and everyone will just nod the heads, ah, yes, yes, yes, 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:25.560 they're nicely. So she's trying to do platy hoods, plat puts, platitude, 0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:29.120 plantpush is something like that. She's trying to say, come 0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.720 up with nice platitudes that everyone will agree with, but 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.440 she mangles them. She can't make it coherent. The sentence 0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.280 starts over here, wanders up there, goes down there a bit, 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:39.800 and then doesn't reach a conclusion. 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.800 And it's so painful to watch Liz Cheney's face throughout. 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:49.240 She's just like, this woman would fail finger painting. I can't. 0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:50.280 I can't stomach this. 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.200 It's like when Ben Affleck saw Batman versus Superman for 0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:56.080 the first time. I just thought, Oh, what have I done? 0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:57.480 What have I gotten involved with? 0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.400 If I can, I'm sure Kamala's team would have her 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.920 stick to the things that she's good at, like this. 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:11.080 One Nation under Her Groove by Funkadelic, One Nation under 0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:12.040 a Groove. 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:17.320 Getting down just for the it can I get it on? 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:25.640 Its unbelievable. 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.960 She's you can do, That's what. 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:29.440 She's good at. 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:34.680 She's like black female Stephen Miles. She does all these 0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:39.240 ridiculous stuffs, laughs at herself, in the hope that then 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.760 everyone else will laugh and find it having fun on it. 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.760 We were really just it's just it's just so terrible, 0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:47.160 and the Dems have just got to fix this or 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:50.240 they will never win another election ever again. Like the 0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:54.200 idea that you could have this person running for president 0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.160 in the middle of a cost of living crisis in 0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:01.480 the US, where you've got rustbell steel about blue collar 0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:05.320 workers who have turned from Barack Obama to Donald Trump, 0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:09.320 and now there's been this sort of bloodless palace coup 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.000 to put her in as the candidate who is going 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.680 to save America quite unquote from Donald Trump, Mark two. 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.640 And it's this where it's the word salad about you. See, 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.560 it's democracy and we have to fight for those Your. 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.680 Point, Joe, is really good. I think it's damaging the 0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:29.400 Democrat brand. It must be. Firstly, the Democrats lied and 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.760 claimed that there was a perfectly mentally capable person in 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.000 the in the White House, when they knew perfectly well 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.000 they had a demented old man who looked in the 0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.160 White House who couldn't do the job and couldn't really 0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.360 understand the English language much anymore. So they lied about 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:46.760 that for three years and then when people finally tumble 0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.360 to it because of the famous debate with Donald Trump, 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:53.320 then they stuck this woman in front of us, this giggling, 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:58.760 shallow distract. I sometimes keep wondering what's wrong with Kamala Harris. 0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.440 There's got to be something wrong. Babylon Bee is a 0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:05.760 famous satirical website, and their answer to what's wrong with 0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.160 her goes like this, There was a time when she 0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.920 did a dnatist because she really Indian or really black, 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:15.800 so she did a dnatist and it came back mostly vodka. 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.040 Her staff are really surprised because they expected some gin 0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.640 in there. So there's got to be something wrong. You 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.479 just can't understand how someone could be this bad running 0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:26.080 for president. 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.760 Well, the thing was, before Joe Biden's brain turned to Porridge, 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.480 he was actually a capable political operator, and he did 0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:35.640 have connections with like grassroots kind of normal people like 0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:37.880 he did actually, you know, maybe not to all the 0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.680 places he remembered, but he did ride the train. But 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.800 there's but there's I think there's a sense that Kamala Harris, 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.440 like the most humble thing she can say about herself 0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.080 is that she grew up in a middle class family 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:56.760 with a nice one. That's that's as log cabin as 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.440 you can get. You are an elite, You are a 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.560 West Coast still lead. You are at San Francisco, West 0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:04.560 Coast leeds at a time when that is the very 0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:11.279 type of person that middle American working class people, especially men, 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.719 cannot relate to, You cannot stand, have nothing in common with, 0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:18.680 and despise, just as they despise people who go to McDonald's. 0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.960 Well, while Trump is doing very well in the polls 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.600 and more and more people are very confident he's going 0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.160 to get the gong next month, I tell you, the 0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.640 only thing that makes me doubt that is all the 0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.480 cheating we seem to see going on across states when 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.600 it comes to them trying to clear up their voter 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.600 rolls without any help from the FEDS. In fact, two 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.839 of those states, Alabama and Virginia, are being sued by 0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:49.759 the DOJ for clearing up thousands of illegal voters. And 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:53.720 today we learn that Michigan has a very real problem 0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:55.759 on their hands. And this is big because this is 0:34:55.800 --> 0:35:00.279 one of the swing states. All eyes on Michigan. These 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:03.920 guys have discovered that they've got over five hundred thousand 0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:09.360 more people registered to vote than are of voting age 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:15.760 in the state of Michigan. Check out this absolutely horrendous 0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:20.200 graph proving to people just how much over the last 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:27.160 three years these unauthorized migrant populations are boosting the numbers 0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:32.800 in these incredibly important swing states, some of them four 0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:36.040 hundred and one percent, four hundred and forty six percent, 0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:42.600 seven hundred and thirty four percent increase since twenty twenty one. Now, 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:47.000 obviously the red states are trying to clear up this 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:53.040 discrepancy and get their voter rolls in order before polling day. 0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:57.359 The Blue states are doing their darndas to ensure that 0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:01.400 illegals can vote on the day. Now, there's no knowing, Joe, 0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:05.200 how many of these five hundred thousand in Michigan actually 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.439 are illegals. We only know at this point. You've got 0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.200 this many people of voting age in the state of Michigan, 0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.680 and you've got five hundred thousand extra people on your right. 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.319 I think there's two different shod's being conflated here. So 0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.239 from what this article says, the unauthorized migrant population in 0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:23.960 Michigan is only thirteen thousand, right, and that is increased dramatically, 0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.480 But it's still just thirteen thousand, but overall it has 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.920 more than five hundred thousand unauthorized registered voters. 0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:33.319 That it would that would we don't know how I 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:34.840 imagine the illegal. 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.239 Well, it couldn't be more than thirteen thousand according to this, 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.160 but that would be a whole bunch of people who 0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.520 would have died but would still their voting roles would 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.120 still be there, moved to another state there, they'd still 0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:49.680 be right. And it's sloppy, sloppy, but it's not illegal. 0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.880 Sitting there to be harvested. Let me ask you a question. 0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.640 Do you still think it's true that twitty twitty? Was 0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:56.880 it a stolen election? 0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:59.560 And that's what I keep going to. 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.440 Well, they're doing it in broad daylight this time around, 0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.440 but we're supposed to believe it was squeaky clean in 0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:07.200 twenty twenty. 0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:08.440 We've got to go to a break. 0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.600 But when we come back, still works, losing over a 0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.720 million dollars a day. More on that soon, don't go anywhere. 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:22.920 Welcome back. We're bringing you tomorrow's news tonight. Joe, you've 0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:23.680 got the Australian. 0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.640 I certainly do. Listen, boy, oh boy, does the Australian 0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.720 have a little cracker on the bottom right hand corner 0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:30.920 of their front page. Now, a lot of people have 0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.520 very unkindly and very cruelly said that the Teals are 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:39.760 only interested in themselves, their own narcissistic political careers, making 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:43.840 sort of high profile, grandiose statements about the problems afflicting 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.160 the world, and don't actually care about what's happening in 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.359 their own communities. And dare I say it, Liz, dare 0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.520 I say it? And I'm just paraphrasing what other people 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.959 are saying here, because heaven forbid I would ever say 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.319 such a thing. That perhaps they're just a little bit 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.200 out of touch with mainstream Australia the anytime here they're 0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:00.759 out of touch with it. Well, look, I don't know, 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.200 I don't know if you've noticed this, but I've been 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.120 told from my friends in mainstream Australia that there's a 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:09.560 housing crisis right, having a cute shortage of housing to 0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.919 the point where some people are homeless and other people 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:15.280 can't afford to put food on their children's dinner table, 0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.799 and that we need to build more houses, right. And 0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.640 you would think the Teals they'd be on board with this, 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.480 because they've got the common part, right, These are people 0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.319 who they see a problem, they solve it. Climate chain 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:29.560 housing sol no worries. Come on in refugees, Oh yeah, 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.120 bring them all in, bring them all in, plenty of 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.799 room out back, make yourself at home. And that's why 0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:38.000 this must be fake news. These are fake exhosive story 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:41.239 on the front page of the Australian Teals with the 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:45.759 taste for nimbism reads the headline. Victorian Teal MPs have 0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:50.400 strongly criticized key aspects of Premier just Center Allen's plan 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:55.480 for high rise towers in Melbourne suburbs, with the former 0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:59.000 Member for Goldstein Federal members sorr that was wishful thinking. 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:03.480 The Federal for gold steams Zoey Daniel, warning crash or 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:07.799 crash through policies will not fix the housing crisis. So 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.239 crash or crash through politic crash crash through policies like 0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:12.760 building more housing. 0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:14.120 That's not good. 0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:16.440 You have to be crazy to make the building more 0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:20.160 housing would fix the housing crisis. 0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:24.239 They want it built, just not in Zoey Daniels. 0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:28.040 Not in Brighton, beautiful downtown bright There's too many mansions there. 0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.640 It would ruin the local flavor. Just wouldn't be sympatica. 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:32.480 You just build it, but build it somebody where you 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:33.040 know they call the. 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.879 Poor people like the lossmen of Melbourne is yeah, that's right, 0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.160 and I think they've gone beyond being Nimbi's they're now bananas. 0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:42.960 Build absolutely nothing anywhere near anyone. 0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:44.879 Anything. 0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.719 Over the front page of the National Broadsheet, the last 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.080 broad sheet newspaper in Australia, down on the bottom right 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.600 hand corner, there's a story about Wistech, which is one 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.279 of these high tech companies which has done extraordinarily well 0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:58.000 and if you've got a few shares in it, they've 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:01.040 kept going up and up until the founder and CEO, 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.040 Richard White, had his personal life all over the newspapers. 0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:09.360 Story says billionaire White washes his scandals with gag deals 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.359 and billionaire Richard White signed at least two non disclosure 0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:18.080 agreements with formal lovers, with abandonment of his legal fight 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.640 with the Sydney beauty entrepreneur Linda Rogan, bringing an end 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.120 to a three week saga that's costwise Tech founder billions 0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:28.160 because the share price has fallen. This has been all 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.480 over even the financial pages. Now we have a little 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.680 share portfolio which my wife manages. This is making a 0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.439 furious to say because the share price keeps going down 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.120 and down, and it was the company was doing well 0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.680 that what they call in the investment industry. The fundamentals 0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.440 are still really sound. And this man keeps running through 0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.000 the newspapers with this. 0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:57.040 Group, amazing number of them. Richard White's rift with his 0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.160 former lover has caused a rift with you and your 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:00.719 current lover. 0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.759 No, no, we're both on the same side because we're 0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:06.560 both distressed about this. But there's more than one. There's 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.960 I think I know about three women involved in this whole. 0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:12.239 It's really finally over. I feel like he's been gracing. 0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.239 One of them, so there's more to go. 0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.560 Richard, Richard, Richard, I beout. 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:19.880 You're sorry now, mate? 0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:20.839 Was it worth it? 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.160 Was it really worth it? 0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:24.040 The ties are out? 0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.200 I reckon every time I think you're. 0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.040 Projecting there, Joe, I think you're projecting to the front 0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.040 page of the Ties. And our Still Works lose one 0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:35.759 million dollars a day the way our still works and 0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.400 iron Ore operations are propped up to the tune of 0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:43.000 almost one million dollars a day. Gf G Alliance Executive 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:47.880 Chairman sen Jeef Gupta has revealed. The controversial British industrialist 0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.040 says he will redouble his commitment to return the steel 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:54.600 works to profitability, but there is no timeline for firing 0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.920 up the blast furnace again. 0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.799 I'm sorry, Liz, I'm sorry I have to interrupt you. 0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.560 I hate to do this on live television, but this 0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:09.799 story again is clearly an example of fake news. There 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:13.640 is no way that the Wyla Steel Works is losing 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:17.560 money because I was assured, I was assured by a 0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:22.239 senior federal politician just a decade ago, that there would 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.360 be no why a wipeout? 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.720 Nor why alla wipe out there on my TV? 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:36.160 Nor why Illa wipe out there on my. 0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:39.320 TV, nor why alla wipe out there on my TV? 0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:41.600 Shocking me right out of my brain. 0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:47.759 Yes, Australia, that really happened, Craig Anderson. 0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:49.759 Isn't that Julia Gillard's ex X. 0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.279 Yeah, but he's a human being in his own right 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.680 list He's not just well, clearly not just Julia Gillard's. 0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.080 That's multalented. 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:05.319 A courtyard of federal performing self bearing self pen composition 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:10.000 called no Whale a Wipeout sung to the tune of. 0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.880 Skyhooks is in fact sake, So it's absolutely fine. He 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:14.799 said there would be no wife. 0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.280 You know how bad dad dancing is. When you combine 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:20.960 dad dancing but dad singing, it becomes a disaster. Let's 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:22.800 get back to something that's making a bit of money. 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.280 If we look at the Northern Territory the NT news 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:27.680 coming out tomorrow, look at the front page of that. 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:31.000 Their big front page headline is Singapore Sling. They're talking 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.760 about a company called sun Cable and the idea behind 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:37.400 sun Cable is they build this massive solar farm somewhere 0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.920 in the Northern Territory and then send the electricity by 0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:43.560 a huge cable under the water to Singapore. Now, at 0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:45.640 one stage this was being launched by and run by 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.800 Mike cannon Brooks and Twiggy Forest. Twiggy bailed out because 0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:50.840 he thought it wasn't going to get anywhere. But this 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.480 is good news. It looks as though they're making progress. 0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.600 The story says Northern Territory based energy company sun Cable 0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:02.000 has signed a non binding agreement Singapore's Energy Market Authority 0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.640 to supply one point seventy five gigawats of low carbon 0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:08.839 electricity from Australia. So it may all happen. I have 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.520 to say I'm a little nervous because of the words 0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:13.000 non binding. 0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:17.120 Indeed, is it actually an agreement if it's not binding? 0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:19.360 Well, I think the thing was that they needed Singapore 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:21.560 to be on board to make this project viable. So 0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.200 this is one of the ones that we talked about 0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:25.799 when we did the News Corp Mission zero thing, and 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.719 it is when you say it's soul of farm in 0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.480 the Northern Territory, it's basically the size of the Northern Territory. 0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:34.319 It's like the whole not It's incredibly ambitious and there's 0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.479 a lot of will it won't it And the fact 0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:39.200 that they've now got this deal with Singapore to basically 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.400 literally run a cable from Australia to Singapore and power 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:43.319 half the. 0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:44.759 City or whatever, very ambitious. 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:49.000 It's extremely ambitious. They will, however, also now need to 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:55.360 run a second cable to Wyala. 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:54.720 To charge the similar. 0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:59.040 Non existent Wyala wipeout. Just finally, I just want to 0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:02.000 pay respect to our colleagues in the Herald Sun south 0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:04.840 of the Border down Mexico Way. This is their front 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:10.480 page here. It's about a catastrophic staffing shortage in Victoria, 0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:14.200 one of many obviously where there aren't enough staff to 0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:18.040 care for mums and babies, mums pregnant, mums of giving 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:21.200 birth and have just given birth, and the babies that 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.239 emerge from them. But it's not so much that that 0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:27.000 I want to draw your attention to, but just that 0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:32.080 incredible splash head midwife crisis. 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:33.919 Someone on the subjection mid. 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:37.480 That's right, someone was waiting for them. We have a 0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.960 shortage of midwives, so I can say midwife crisis. 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.040 But it is some startling research that's been done here 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:47.840 which shows that a third of current midwives we're considering 0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:52.120 leaving now and we're already sure, so who's going to 0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:53.120 deliver the babies? 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:57.040 Come on, we need more midwives here in Australia. 0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:58.960 Or maybe they think it doesn't matter now that we've 0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:02.560 hit a record low of one point five fertility rate. 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:04.080 We've got right. 0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.520 Now, you say that every time. 0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:09.520 Come on, I got my three a half. 0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:11.520 We're going to go to a break now. 0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:15.360 But stay tuned for parents suing a school district for 0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.160 a poor grade their sun got due to an AI 0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:20.759 generated assignment Sea Zoon. 0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:24.439 Welcome back. 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:28.880 Just when you think education couldn't get any worse, it 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.919 turns out to every rock bottom, there is a trapdoor. 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:36.879 Parents in Massachusetts are suing their school district because their 0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:41.240 son got a D on an assignment that obviously whoever 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:46.040 was grading it realized was AI generated and accused the 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:50.080 boy of plagiarism. Get a load of the parent's argument. 0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:52.240 Jennifer Harris says, he's. 0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.560 Been accused of cheating and it wasn't cheating. There was 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.360 no rule in the handbook against AI. 0:46:57.880 --> 0:46:59.879 So our argument to the school was. 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:02.480 Could you fail in with a fifty nine instead of 0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:05.640 a fifty three so he can have a bus. He's 0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:10.080 applying to top tier schools. He's applying to Stanford, he's 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:11.160 applying to Mit. 0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.600 They see a C grade and it's. 0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:18.719 Going in the trash shave his future. This mother is 0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.360 pleading and now is going to court because the school's 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:25.799 refusing to do so. Their lawyer is arguing that in 0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:30.200 fact AI isn't necessarily plagiarism. There are bodies of work 0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:34.040 that claim that whoever's generated the AI then is the 0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:38.480 intellectual owner of said intellectual property. So this is just 0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:40.600 one of those unbelievable stories. 0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:42.160 Kel is like only in America. 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:45.759 Well, the problem was that the handbook with all the 0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:48.319 rules in was printed a little while ago, and since 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:52.400 then someone invented AI, they couldn't, so they need to 0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:56.520 update it. AI do my homework for me, please, And 0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:59.839 then here's the document you can't give a mark on that. 0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:01.719 They should it should he shouldn't have got a D. 0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:04.600 You shouldn't have got an F for failure. It shouldn't been. 0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:07.120 But the idea that we can play this, we can 0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:09.000 play this legal game. We can take you to court 0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:12.120 and say no, no, it doesn't come under the word plagiarism. Therefore, 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:13.839 you've got to bear in mind we want to get 0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:15.560 him into wear my too, so you want. 0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:17.200 To although what the good news is that the robot 0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:20.880 actually did get into MI I T So it's all fine, Yeah. 0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.240 Better chances if you're the actual AI. 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:27.839 The mother also argued that he had a perfect what 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:31.480 do they call it in the States. It's not it's 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:32.080 an act. 0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:34.239 It's called a set score. 0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:34.920 A SAD score. 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.400 Okay, let's go with that. She argued, he's got a 0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:38.360 perfect SAX. 0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:40.359 Score, which begs the question. 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:43.520 How did he get that perfect SAT score? 0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:44.320 How much AI? 0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:47.640 That's one smart algorithm. 0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:50.160 You've just opened a can of worms. 0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:53.800 I don't like to thank God for making it all possible. 0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:56.920 You've really thrown your own son under the bus. There, 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.879 that's a wrap from us. Thanks for joining us. Stay 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:01.560 tune for the Rita Pannehy Show.