WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 6 August

0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:05.200
<v Speaker 1>From the skying In Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Thank you Sharry. Happy Tuesday forrever you happen to be

0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:11.080
<v Speaker 2>around the country. Within this hour, we expect to hear

0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:13.600
<v Speaker 2>whom Kamala Harris thinks could be her vice president.

0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:16.160
<v Speaker 1>That announcement as soon as it lands, along with a

0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:17.480
<v Speaker 1>more analysis.

0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.319
<v Speaker 2>And great debate with James Morrow, Joe Hillebrand and the

0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.439
<v Speaker 2>great Node Ferrard joining us from the UK where the

0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:22.200
<v Speaker 2>problems will.

0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:23.320
<v Speaker 1>They stack up by the hour.

0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.920
<v Speaker 2>But first, this is a program that is thankful of

0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.600
<v Speaker 2>our modern history, that is respectful of the people who

0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.199
<v Speaker 2>came home from World War II and built this country

0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.680
<v Speaker 2>into the place worth defending each and every day. Well,

0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:38.720
<v Speaker 2>as you will have heard today, the last of the

0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Rats of Tabrook.

0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Has left us.

0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.839
<v Speaker 2>More than fourteen thousand men ended up serving their country

0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:46.879
<v Speaker 2>in that part of the theater of World War II,

0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.479
<v Speaker 2>the Libyan port of course of Tabrook. Well, Tom Pritchard

0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.360
<v Speaker 2>is the last, and he has died today aged one

0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred and two. Now you know inside and out the

0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.760
<v Speaker 2>details of the Rats of Trabrook for those who they

0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:01.840
<v Speaker 2>will be watching.

0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Us later on the internet or maybe just of a

0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:05.280
<v Speaker 1>different vintage.

0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.760
<v Speaker 2>You don't remember all of the details here. How did

0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.840
<v Speaker 2>the Rats of de Brook get the name of the

0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Rats of Tabrook? Well, the Australian War Memorial has got

0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.640
<v Speaker 2>many pieces of information that they led up onto the Internet,

0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.760
<v Speaker 2>as well as the incredible displays that you can go

0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.160
<v Speaker 2>and see in Camber in his part of their explanation

0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.640
<v Speaker 2>behind the name the Rats of de Brook.

0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.720
<v Speaker 3>Because the Tabrook Garrison was forced to dig in under

0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:35.119
<v Speaker 3>constant bombardment, the Nazi propagandist Lord Hawhorn declared that they

0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:39.240
<v Speaker 3>were caught like rats in a trap. The men, hearing

0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.760
<v Speaker 3>this on the radio, adopted the name as a defiant

0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:47.559
<v Speaker 3>badge of pride and became the Rats of Tabrook. Major

0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.360
<v Speaker 3>General Leslie morse Head was their very aggressive commander, a

0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Gallipoli veteran.

0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:53.960
<v Speaker 1>His troops dubbed.

0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Him ming the Merciless. It was a spirit that he

0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.120
<v Speaker 3>passed on to his men, who, rather than being passive

0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.120
<v Speaker 3>and waiting for the Germans and Italians to come to them,

0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.760
<v Speaker 3>went out into no man's land each night to patrol

0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:08.360
<v Speaker 3>and to harass the enemy.

0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.920
<v Speaker 1>The Australian efforts into Brook also produced Australia's first recipient

0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:15.240
<v Speaker 1>of the Victoria Cross.

0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:22.280
<v Speaker 3>The Siege of Tbrook offers examples of humor, matship and endurance.

0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.760
<v Speaker 3>It also has its stories of great heroism.

0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.240
<v Speaker 4>Jack emission as the first Australian of the Second World

0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.519
<v Speaker 4>Gore to be awarded a Victoria Cross. Jack was involved

0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.959
<v Speaker 4>in a very bitter, bloody hand to hand action on

0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.480
<v Speaker 4>the night of the thirteenth of April, where he saved

0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.959
<v Speaker 4>the life of his commanding officer, but he was mortally

0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:39.800
<v Speaker 4>wounded in action.

0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I apologize, one of the first Australians to receive the

0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Victoria Cross and one of the fourteen thousand people who

0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.799
<v Speaker 2>are sadly no longer with us. But the world is

0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.519
<v Speaker 2>a bitter place because of what they did. Is again

0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.919
<v Speaker 2>a story supplied in the same video by the Woman Royal.

0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:00.480
<v Speaker 2>A man by the name of John Johnson, and he

0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.000
<v Speaker 2>of course was one of many who decided to go

0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.080
<v Speaker 2>off to defend his country, to defend the then Empire,

0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.359
<v Speaker 2>and to of course repel the Germans. The simple story

0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.480
<v Speaker 2>of where he came from and what was left behind

0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:16.080
<v Speaker 2>is the same as OsO Mini, who died on those

0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:17.080
<v Speaker 2>and many other fronts.

0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:20.800
<v Speaker 4>He was a carpenter from rural Victoria. He was a

0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.760
<v Speaker 4>father of eight children when he went off to war.

0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.720
<v Speaker 4>Each staated his right to John about a simple things school,

0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.400
<v Speaker 4>the chickens not laying eggs. Tragically, though, Josephine gets a

0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.560
<v Speaker 4>telegram saying John's been killed, but his letters continue to

0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.680
<v Speaker 4>arrive home for some weeks after the event.

0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Our eternal thanks to all of the rats of to

0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Brook after losing the final one today and slowly but

0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.960
<v Speaker 2>surely the fourteen thousand before, strength and love to Tom

0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Pritchett's family, to John Johnson's family, and to everyone else

0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.760
<v Speaker 2>who's served their country, not just on that but in

0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:59.320
<v Speaker 2>every other theater of war, from the legends of our

0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.560
<v Speaker 2>past to the of today. And that's what I've got

0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:02.680
<v Speaker 2>plenty to talk about today.

0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Now, you know.

0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I love Queensland. Last night celebrating that Queensland, if it

0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:07.920
<v Speaker 2>was a country, would be higher on the middle tally

0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.760
<v Speaker 2>than other places. You know, any opportunity to muck around,

0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.880
<v Speaker 2>to have some fun to do in our town, but

0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:16.040
<v Speaker 2>it holiday or for work. I want to be in Queensland.

0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to be a Queenslander, no question right. Well,

0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.320
<v Speaker 2>of course they have the upcoming pool writing. That was fun,

0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.720
<v Speaker 2>wasn't it, And also as you know, the Queensland election

0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.720
<v Speaker 2>coming up sooner rather than later. It'll be the final

0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:29.600
<v Speaker 2>weekend in October. Will there be a new premier fingers

0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:30.359
<v Speaker 2>crossed hopefully?

0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:30.600
<v Speaker 5>Why?

0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Because the current one is obviously not the standard and

0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.440
<v Speaker 2>the government that he and then Palachet before has led

0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.120
<v Speaker 2>is completely terrible.

0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.839
<v Speaker 1>But they are incredibly good at politics.

0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.560
<v Speaker 2>And even though it seems like they're going out the

0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.760
<v Speaker 2>back door, remember latest polling suggesting that they're facing something

0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.960
<v Speaker 2>close to, if not guaranteed to be a wipeout, they

0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.840
<v Speaker 2>most likely are set to lose. Now, I throw in

0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.799
<v Speaker 2>all the caveats because firstly, nothing is inevitable. Twenty nineteen

0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.479
<v Speaker 2>taught us all of that. But secondly, these people go

0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.640
<v Speaker 2>out of their way and are shameless in the ways

0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.120
<v Speaker 2>that they hope to brick themselves into office.

0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Now they deserve to go. They deserve to go last.

0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Term, but COVID was able to prop them up to

0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.280
<v Speaker 2>give them another term. They thought the Olympics would be

0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.000
<v Speaker 2>able to serve them for this term many terms to come,

0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:17.320
<v Speaker 2>but the reality of Queensland under Labor has now come

0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.680
<v Speaker 2>to a crashing halt. But this government thinks that they

0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:25.360
<v Speaker 2>can find new ways to change the subject. In fact,

0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.440
<v Speaker 2>their expectation is that they're going to be able to

0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.880
<v Speaker 2>spend literally b four billions of dollars on so called

0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.240
<v Speaker 2>cost of living relief.

0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.720
<v Speaker 1>They say so called. These are all policies.

0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.719
<v Speaker 2>That start in and around the election, and they run

0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.159
<v Speaker 2>out by definitely this time next year, like say fifty

0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.840
<v Speaker 2>cents on the trains or one thousand dollars on power bills.

0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:48.599
<v Speaker 2>But today were we hit a new low and these

0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.200
<v Speaker 2>two were already new lows. Well he found a new one.

0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:57.080
<v Speaker 2>The plan of the Miles government is to introduce government

0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:01.799
<v Speaker 2>owned service stations to bring down the price of petrol.

0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.800
<v Speaker 6>Stephen Miles also wants to create government owned petrol stations.

0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.640
<v Speaker 7>Stephen Miles also pledging to build twelve new government owned

0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.200
<v Speaker 7>service stations.

0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Laborwood trial twelve publicly owned fuel stations. This is rubbish,

0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:22.200
<v Speaker 2>This is utter garbage. They're not talking about buying existing independence.

0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:28.279
<v Speaker 2>They are talking about building twelve new petrol stations. Now,

0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.080
<v Speaker 2>of course the detail of all of this, which they

0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.200
<v Speaker 2>don't care about. They just want to have another thing

0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.440
<v Speaker 2>on the list of things that the reason that they're

0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.920
<v Speaker 2>going to fix cost of living, all of which run out,

0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.160
<v Speaker 2>of course within the first twelve months. And these things,

0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.120
<v Speaker 2>of course, even if they were re elected, will never

0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:48.320
<v Speaker 2>be built. Remember, they won't be increasing drilling for oil

0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.680
<v Speaker 2>and then refining it in Queens and they'll have to

0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.960
<v Speaker 2>be buying it off the overseas market like everyone else

0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.440
<v Speaker 2>does in Australia, because Australia does not even refine petrol anymore.

0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Bob Catter for a long time has talked about this,

0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.760
<v Speaker 2>The late and great Senator Jim Molan has talked about this.

0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.560
<v Speaker 2>So their ability to affects the price is literally just

0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.920
<v Speaker 2>the government running for the sake of the billboard loss leading.

0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Our governments can do that because despite the fact that

0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.320
<v Speaker 2>the money still has to be borrowed from somewhere, the

0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.160
<v Speaker 2>consequences don't exist for government that exists the business. But

0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:23.600
<v Speaker 2>amazingly this detail, which you would think would sink the announcement,

0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't stop the announcement, making the headline news that we

0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.760
<v Speaker 2>just showed you. There's no details, there's no plan to

0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.560
<v Speaker 2>do this between now and the election. It's all after

0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the election, so it's just a BS promise. And as

0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the Qurier Marl pointed out today, Premier Stephen Mars has

0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.880
<v Speaker 2>admitted an election commitment to open state owned fuel stations

0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.200
<v Speaker 2>at a cost of thirty six million dollars was not

0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:50.560
<v Speaker 2>backed by modeling or research. So it's a thought bubble.

0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.720
<v Speaker 2>It's an idea from labor HQ. It is not an

0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.080
<v Speaker 2>idea from anyone with any idea of how public policy works.

0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.600
<v Speaker 2>And while for most people that don't care, they just

0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.000
<v Speaker 2>focus on what the vibe is, this is all about

0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.080
<v Speaker 2>trying to change the vibe. But when he's pressed on

0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.960
<v Speaker 2>the detail, it's pretty obvious that no one's done the

0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.400
<v Speaker 2>homework on this ridiculous idea.

0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Have you done your own modeling or an own research

0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.600
<v Speaker 3>or have you relied on ourcqs.

0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.920
<v Speaker 6>This is our election commitment for what we will do

0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.600
<v Speaker 6>for Queenslanders to drive down the price of fuel going forward.

0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:26.120
<v Speaker 8>You haven't done any research.

0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.480
<v Speaker 9>You described an idea from the RAC cues that might

0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:29.160
<v Speaker 9>help with the election.

0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:30.320
<v Speaker 8>Not at all.

0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:34.400
<v Speaker 6>This is a detailed package of initiatives designed to address

0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.319
<v Speaker 6>what we know from Queenslanders is one of their biggest concerns.

0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.520
<v Speaker 8>So what research is the government done on this?

0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.280
<v Speaker 6>Well, this is an election commitment and it's a commitment

0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.439
<v Speaker 6>that I am making to Queenslanders.

0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.040
<v Speaker 8>Here's a question, have you done, model it or not? Well,

0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.160
<v Speaker 8>this is an election committment.

0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:51.520
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean, model or not?

0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.440
<v Speaker 6>This is an election commitment. So it hasn't been produced

0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:55.320
<v Speaker 6>by the public service.

0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:00.559
<v Speaker 1>It's so they can stand in front of the poster. Now, firstly, again, the.

0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Idea that twelve petrol stations are going to affect the

0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:07.480
<v Speaker 2>overall price a petrol that's available in Queensland is garbage.

0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Where and how they get the fuel They'll have to

0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.400
<v Speaker 2>buy it from the same places as everywhere else because

0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.679
<v Speaker 2>they're not a private company. Yes, there's some margins they

0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:16.920
<v Speaker 2>may be able to fiddle.

0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.880
<v Speaker 1>With, but again, no detail, no thinking.

0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.199
<v Speaker 2>It's just so they can make you think that public

0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.839
<v Speaker 2>transports fifty cents, they'll pay your power bill, and now

0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.040
<v Speaker 2>they're going to somehow magically push down the global oil price.

0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.040
<v Speaker 2>They're not able to do any of those things. And

0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:39.440
<v Speaker 2>if they were able to commit to the current round

0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:44.480
<v Speaker 2>of spending, it's billions of dollars. They literally took the

0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:49.200
<v Speaker 2>surplus that came from increase royalties, particularly in and around coal,

0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:54.280
<v Speaker 2>and they are hurdling it up the wall, literally just

0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.560
<v Speaker 2>throwing it out the window. On the assumption that Queenslanders

0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.640
<v Speaker 2>are so stupid. They're not paying attention. Well, there is

0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.040
<v Speaker 2>no one in Queensland who is seriously going to think

0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.640
<v Speaker 2>that these people are serious about deserving another four years

0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.520
<v Speaker 2>in power when this is the low road that they

0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.320
<v Speaker 2>plan to go, and they've got billions of dollars left

0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.600
<v Speaker 2>and plenty more announcements. They won't do any homework on whatsoever.

0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.080
<v Speaker 1>This is stupid.

0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Remember when Homer Simpson ran for the Sanitation Commissioner and

0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.920
<v Speaker 2>in order to win an election, he just promised everything. Well,

0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.080
<v Speaker 2>unsurprisingly it all ran out of money after just a

0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:28.880
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks.

0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:30.760
<v Speaker 1>This is exactly that.

0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.320
<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to call Stephen Miles the Homer

0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Simpson of Australian politics because that's too big a compliment.

0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.320
<v Speaker 2>But anyone who remembers the show knows it doesn't end

0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.520
<v Speaker 2>very well for the everyone gets surprised.

0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Everyone can eat cake candidacy.

0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Unsurprisingly, the people of the Courier Male reading this story today,

0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.200
<v Speaker 2>they hate it. Thousands of people have voted thus far,

0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.240
<v Speaker 2>and it's what the best part of eighty.

0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Four percent of people. They think it's a stupid idea.

0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.960
<v Speaker 2>The Liberal Party will they of course, following the bound

0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.080
<v Speaker 2>ball of detail. I think This is dumb too.

0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:07.320
<v Speaker 10>Stephen Miles is on the side of multinationals and he

0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:11.800
<v Speaker 10>will wipe out independent retailers, therefore creating less competition in

0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:16.400
<v Speaker 10>the markplace, in the marketplace, therefore driving up petrol prices

0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.400
<v Speaker 10>for Queenslanders. It will have the complete opposite effect that

0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:21.440
<v Speaker 10>he thinks this will have.

0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, another thing about this bloke, and again I'm going

0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.120
<v Speaker 2>to hone it on this because this is not just

0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.920
<v Speaker 2>hardcore Australian politics, but this is an opportunity to send

0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.720
<v Speaker 2>a bad government packing to not fall. For all of

0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.839
<v Speaker 2>the hucksters and the games and the clever ads and

0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.840
<v Speaker 2>the ugur boogers about Campbell Newman from ten years ago

0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.520
<v Speaker 2>that have largely been able to keep Labor in power.

0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Today Stephen Miles again court with the Labour Party's hand

0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.560
<v Speaker 2>in the taxpayer till they are spending yet again millions

0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of dollars on taxpayer ads that are all overtly about

0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.520
<v Speaker 2>trying to win votes at the election. But nothing to

0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:04.320
<v Speaker 2>see here. Meantime, here's the reality of Queensland. The number

0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.280
<v Speaker 2>of people who are staying in hospitals for long periods

0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.920
<v Speaker 2>of time because there is nowhere else for them to go.

0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Is now at a record high. The number of people

0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.160
<v Speaker 2>that sit in the back of an ambulance because there's

0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.559
<v Speaker 2>no room for the person to come from the ambulance

0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:19.880
<v Speaker 2>into the hospital is.

0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Also at a record high.

0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.760
<v Speaker 2>And in a despicable example of all talk no action

0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.560
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to mental health and particularly the mental

0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.880
<v Speaker 2>health of women in Brisbane story from the Courier mar

0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:39.559
<v Speaker 2>no doctor was the Royal Brisbane Women's Hospital in their

0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.680
<v Speaker 2>emergency SICH unit on one night after ten thirty at night.

0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.079
<v Speaker 1>So literally, if somebody was having a.

0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Breakdown or needed immediate medical intervention because of their mental

0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:53.760
<v Speaker 2>health episode, not one doctor in one of the biggest

0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.440
<v Speaker 2>hospitals in the entire state. Put simply, Queenslanders have a

0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:04.439
<v Speaker 2>finely tuned bs met. It should be going wild at

0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:09.000
<v Speaker 2>this election. Flush this mob, get rid of them. Please,

0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.400
<v Speaker 2>for the sake of your fellow Queenslanders, get rid of

0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.079
<v Speaker 2>this government. They are laughing at you behind the scenes

0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.400
<v Speaker 2>about how dumb they think you are and you can

0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.000
<v Speaker 2>be bought off with garbage like they tried to serve

0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:27.040
<v Speaker 2>up today. Please, for millions of people they were nervous

0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.560
<v Speaker 2>about what was going to happen with the Reserve Bank today, Thankfully,

0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.200
<v Speaker 2>what we predicted happened, which is nothing.

0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Mortgage holders have been spared further pain with the Reserve

0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Bank today leaving the cash rate on hold, official interest

0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.599
<v Speaker 3>rates on hold at four point three five percent.

0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Tonight, interest rates on hold and set to stay there.

0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.959
<v Speaker 2>And that's the big issue here, which is, as I've

0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.120
<v Speaker 2>said before, the pressure that has been building over all

0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.800
<v Speaker 2>of these months is now at a breaking point. There

0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.160
<v Speaker 2>is a political breaking point whenever interest rates go up,

0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:58.320
<v Speaker 2>should they ever go up.

0:13:58.800 --> 0:13:59.920
<v Speaker 1>But today.

0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Michelle Bullok made it very clear what was happening behind

0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the scenes when they were discussing what to do next.

0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.839
<v Speaker 11>Yes, the Board did consider a rate rise at this

0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.280
<v Speaker 11>meeting as well as a hold. The Board is trying,

0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.959
<v Speaker 11>as we've said in the past, to steer a narrow

0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:21.520
<v Speaker 11>path here not resulting and a spike in unemployment, keeping

0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:26.200
<v Speaker 11>the interest rate where it is, and making sure that

0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.520
<v Speaker 11>people understand that a rate cut is not on the

0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.840
<v Speaker 11>agenda in the near term given what we know that

0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:37.040
<v Speaker 11>continued pressure will help to keep demand coming back into

0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:37.880
<v Speaker 11>line with supply.

0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Now, all of this is all very clever. When we're

0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.160
<v Speaker 2>talking about inflation, they want it between two and three percent.

0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Reality is it's now closer to four percent than it

0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:50.000
<v Speaker 2>is three percent based off the latest numbers. But also

0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.600
<v Speaker 2>the reality is is that in the past financial year,

0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the average mortgage in Australia costs fifty six thousand dollars

0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.360
<v Speaker 2>more to pay off than he did twelve months ago.

0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Let alone, once you start.

0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.280
<v Speaker 2>To put together the full effect of two years of

0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.920
<v Speaker 2>albow and charmers in charge of our economy, not one,

0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.040
<v Speaker 2>not two, not three, not four, not five, not six,

0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.600
<v Speaker 2>not seven, not eight, not nine, not ten, not eleven,

0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.920
<v Speaker 2>but twelve, interest rate rises.

0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Thankfully, there's a platter right now.

0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.720
<v Speaker 2>But the expectation is it's just as big a chance

0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.440
<v Speaker 2>to go up as it is to go down. And

0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.800
<v Speaker 2>as you heard from the Reserve Bank governor today, the

0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.120
<v Speaker 2>reality is they're not going to do anything for maybe

0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:32.160
<v Speaker 2>another six months. So that financial pain that you have

0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.440
<v Speaker 2>been sitting in month after month after month, at this

0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.960
<v Speaker 2>huge high we're at right now, the highest in a generation,

0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:44.280
<v Speaker 2>twelve times it has risen since this government came to power.

0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.640
<v Speaker 2>The media would like to, of course, like to pretend that, oh,

0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:48.960
<v Speaker 2>will it becomes a problem for the government at the

0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:50.800
<v Speaker 2>thirteenth No, it was a problem of the twelfth, the

0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.800
<v Speaker 2>eleventh to tenth and all the rest right interest rates

0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.600
<v Speaker 2>are fundamental to with the Australian economy and about people's

0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:01.000
<v Speaker 2>interaction with that economy, their capacity to live where they

0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.480
<v Speaker 2>choose to live, or to borrow the money for the

0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.320
<v Speaker 2>place that they would like to live. And right now

0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.960
<v Speaker 2>it is demonstrably worse that it has been for a

0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.200
<v Speaker 2>very long time, and specifically worse after there was a

0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.880
<v Speaker 2>change of government a couple of years ago and again

0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:17.680
<v Speaker 2>no change for six months.

0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.520
<v Speaker 11>The Board's feeling is that the market path at the

0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:26.200
<v Speaker 11>moment is pricing in interstrate reductions by the end of

0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:30.960
<v Speaker 11>this year. I think the board's feeling is that the

0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.480
<v Speaker 11>near term in the next by the end of the year,

0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.840
<v Speaker 11>in the next six months. That doesn't align given what

0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.240
<v Speaker 11>the Board knows at the moment, and given what the

0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.000
<v Speaker 11>four casts are that that doesn't align with their thinking

0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:43.920
<v Speaker 11>about interstrate reductions at the moment.

0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.760
<v Speaker 2>So the chance nothing happens for the rest of this year,

0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.840
<v Speaker 2>and then we're of course into the February meeting next year.

0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.200
<v Speaker 2>All of that, of course becoming quite complicated when it

0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:54.040
<v Speaker 2>comes to the politics.

0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.040
<v Speaker 1>But I don't care about the politics, care about the reality.

0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Of Australians who are suffocating under the bills that they

0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.840
<v Speaker 2>have to pay right now. But of course if you

0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.640
<v Speaker 2>ask the treasure everything's fine.

0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:08.760
<v Speaker 12>This decision is welcome because it recognizes the progress that

0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.760
<v Speaker 12>we've made on underlying inflation, the softness in our economy,

0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.640
<v Speaker 12>and also that very substantial global economic uncertainty that we're

0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.800
<v Speaker 12>seeing play out in markets around the world.

0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Of course it doesn't, but this is the one two

0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.800
<v Speaker 2>game that Charmers has put in place. Remember the reason

0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.959
<v Speaker 2>the government didn't copy it about most of the twelve

0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.080
<v Speaker 2>was because that was all evil Philip Low. Well, then,

0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.000
<v Speaker 2>of course Michelle Bullock replaced, handpicked by the Treasurer, she

0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.880
<v Speaker 2>increased it twice over. Oh but now the treasure now

0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.040
<v Speaker 2>it's not just the treasure are talking. When the Reserve

0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Bank makes this decision, the Reserve Bank has to come

0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:42.760
<v Speaker 2>out and do a press conference. So then we have

0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.239
<v Speaker 2>the government responding to see blame them, blame them as if,

0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:50.240
<v Speaker 2>of course there are no participants in their own economy. Thankfully,

0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.240
<v Speaker 2>there are great people that are willing to call out

0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.480
<v Speaker 2>the absurdity of this treasurer, the messaging and the decision making,

0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.720
<v Speaker 2>and they're way smarter than me, and they're more specific

0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.520
<v Speaker 2>in their understanding, like the economics reporter for The Australian.

0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.359
<v Speaker 2>The Wonder of Judi's Sloane been on the show plenty

0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:04.960
<v Speaker 2>of times. You can see a lots of times on Sky.

0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.159
<v Speaker 2>I love reading her stuff and she says all can

0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:11.560
<v Speaker 2>no responsibility. Jimbo nomics is failing to deliver. Instead of

0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.320
<v Speaker 2>focusing on ways of lifting productivity, charmers as sat back

0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.520
<v Speaker 2>while other ministers have introduced policies that further harm productivity,

0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.760
<v Speaker 2>most notably Industrial Relations, Energy and the NDIS. She goes

0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.480
<v Speaker 2>on to say Charmer's ownership of the dubious Future Made

0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.880
<v Speaker 2>in Australia is another black mark against his reputation as

0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:32.240
<v Speaker 2>the lobbyist's flock to argue for questionable projects that push

0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.000
<v Speaker 2>the right buttons. Remember that's about twenty eight billion dollars

0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.639
<v Speaker 2>worth of stuff promoting the renewable energy superpower in particular.

0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Any failures seen as the fault of the Treasurer and

0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.520
<v Speaker 2>his ill equipped department. But of course it will all

0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.840
<v Speaker 2>be spun the other way by a very friendly media.

0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.520
<v Speaker 1>The idea that the Treasury, with its.

0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Commercially naive and inexperienced officials, can identify strategic sectors is

0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:58.439
<v Speaker 2>complete nonsense, absolutely hallily, yeah, right on. Anyone who's been

0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.440
<v Speaker 2>watching the stock market the past couple of days knows

0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.280
<v Speaker 2>that it's had one heck of a correction, now slightly,

0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.800
<v Speaker 2>but surely what goes down eventually starts to come back up,

0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and lots of people makes lots of money in both directions.

0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.800
<v Speaker 2>But it's another reminder about just how brittle things are,

0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.520
<v Speaker 2>which is why you don't want this person to be

0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.240
<v Speaker 2>anywhere near the global economy for the next four years.

0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:24.280
<v Speaker 13>Bidenamics is working. Last month we created one hundred and

0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.960
<v Speaker 13>eighty seven thousand new jobs. That means today one hundred

0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:32.879
<v Speaker 13>and eighty seven thousand more Americans are able to go

0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:33.399
<v Speaker 13>to work.

0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's generally what a job means. She's a brat.

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Meantime, here in Australia, a more familiar person like Mark Buris,

0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.800
<v Speaker 2>remember the Australian host at one point of the Celebrity Apprentice,

0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the manknown for of course many a.

0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Mortgage over the years.

0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.320
<v Speaker 2>He's on the radio today saying, guess what Australia is

0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.440
<v Speaker 2>in a recession? Of course, the per capita recession. We've

0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.760
<v Speaker 2>been talking about it here for the whole time, five

0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:03.480
<v Speaker 2>quarters in a row, more than a year of us

0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:05.000
<v Speaker 2>going backwards.

0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, he said so too this morning.

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.720
<v Speaker 14>We are definitely in a recession. I don't know why

0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.080
<v Speaker 14>they don't look at that number. They just look at

0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.560
<v Speaker 14>the overall number. I don't know why that's the big deal.

0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.640
<v Speaker 14>But on a per capita absolutely, which means our standard

0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.080
<v Speaker 14>living ban is reducing. The standard living per person in

0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.680
<v Speaker 14>this country is lower than it was two years ago.

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Well said, watch this space because much of the media

0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.439
<v Speaker 2>will not wish to do it, because it's difficult for

0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:35.280
<v Speaker 2>a government that is making things worse. Because, of course,

0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 2>their solution many of the people who are paid to

0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.359
<v Speaker 2>be the gatekeepers of the bubble to make sure that

0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.480
<v Speaker 2>the left and far left remain in power in this

0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:47.160
<v Speaker 2>country for many elections to come. Well, of course they

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.119
<v Speaker 2>don't want to call out this government on that central

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.119
<v Speaker 2>promise which we all know that they ended up failing on,

0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.199
<v Speaker 2>which was that if you vote for a labor government

0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.840
<v Speaker 2>you will end up with a lower cost of living.

0:20:56.240 --> 0:21:00.320
<v Speaker 2>So of course their target is Peter Dutton, and even

0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.280
<v Speaker 2>in a piece today that started to point out what

0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:05.159
<v Speaker 2>some of the problems were for the Prime Minister and

0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:09.840
<v Speaker 2>some of his failures. Peter Dutton is of course the

0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.119
<v Speaker 2>great savior and the great reason why this government no

0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.600
<v Speaker 2>doubt will be re elected, either in a majority or

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:17.840
<v Speaker 2>potentially in a minority. And this of course is written

0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:19.600
<v Speaker 2>by former Gillard's staff for somebody who wrote a book

0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.119
<v Speaker 2>hating on Scott Morrison. But still this well declared at

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.720
<v Speaker 2>the very end of the article. Most people don't get

0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.359
<v Speaker 2>that far if this government is forgettable alb and easiest

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.560
<v Speaker 2>counting on you remembering the last one. So they expect

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.040
<v Speaker 2>you to vote in twenty twenty four or most likely

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, on how you felt in twenty twenty two,

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.520
<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that if you own a house you

0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:42.439
<v Speaker 2>are twelve times higher when it comes to interest rates

0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:47.200
<v Speaker 2>and how many other indices about bread, milk, fruit, veg.

0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.959
<v Speaker 2>White goods compared to two years ago. It is this

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.640
<v Speaker 2>belief at senior levels that the governments are re elected

0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.320
<v Speaker 2>not on what they've done, but what they're going to do.

0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:58.920
<v Speaker 2>But when all else fails, and he goes through a

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.240
<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of reasons why p twent Actually they don't

0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:05.359
<v Speaker 2>have the things to run on. What hindsight often overlooks

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.200
<v Speaker 2>is just how dominant the end of the government's first term.

0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.160
<v Speaker 1>The memory of the previous government remains.

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.720
<v Speaker 2>This may be one of the reasons governments tend to

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:18.200
<v Speaker 2>get a second term. Voters haven't forgotten what came before them,

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.240
<v Speaker 2>now remember. According to the pole that turns up in

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:25.080
<v Speaker 2>the turnabule times in the Freaking Guardian, it says that

0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:26.879
<v Speaker 2>more than fifty percent of the country believes we are

0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.960
<v Speaker 2>headed in the wrong direction. All of the poles tell

0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.600
<v Speaker 2>us that the Prime Minister's disapproval rating is higher than

0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 2>is approval rating.

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So the idea that they.

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Can still run against the ghost of the former government,

0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:41.440
<v Speaker 2>they'll try. Much of the media will help them along

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the way. But if the reality of people's lives are

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 2>are you better off than you were two or three

0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 2>years ago? And the answer is hell no, Who knows

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen? Yes, the teals most likely aren't

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.200
<v Speaker 2>going anywhere, and that blocks the Liberal Party's.

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Chances of getting to seventy six. But who knows?

0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 2>This bloke continues. Peter Dutton has managed to dominate the

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.639
<v Speaker 2>debate for a surprising portion of the past few months,

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.400
<v Speaker 2>but given how large the coalition's recent past still looms,

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 2>there is a more important question to ask with Dunn's

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.400
<v Speaker 2>forays into migration and nuclear both of which are popular

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 2>with more than half of the country. But still has

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:18.920
<v Speaker 2>he done enough or anything really to convince uters the

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:23.359
<v Speaker 2>coalition has escaped the past and becomes something appealingly new. So,

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:27.200
<v Speaker 2>upon the urgings of the bloke who worked for Gillard

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 2>writing in the Channel nine newspapers, the best way for

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 2>this government to get re elected is to do more

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:32.920
<v Speaker 2>of this.

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 15>Of the previous coalition government, under the previous.

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Government, under the previous government, the previous government.

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Good luck with it all, right, now, let us get

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.440
<v Speaker 2>to the situation involving police.

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I remember when we were in Renmark a few months

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 2>ago for our town. There are a couple of big

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 2>burly blokes who came up to me and talked about

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:57.480
<v Speaker 2>their experience as former police officers. They had spoken like

0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:01.160
<v Speaker 2>big burly blokes who'd spoken to me Queensland, and big

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 2>burly blokes that had spoken to me in Victoria, and

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 2>the same in New South Wales. We have conversations in

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the past year and all of those states with former

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 2>police officers who talk about what happens once you stop

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 2>being a police officer. Now, this show's pro cop doesn't

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 2>mean everything is sweet and roses.

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 1>No, does it mean nobody ever makes a mistake.

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:26.639
<v Speaker 2>No, But as a fundamental default position, support police because,

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.199
<v Speaker 2>as you know, they run towards what we would run

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 2>away from. What they deal with on any one day

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>would be the worst day of our lives, and they

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>do it in twelve hour shifts, day after day after

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 2>day after day. Well, an interesting story is popping up

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.160
<v Speaker 2>out of South Australia where they're starting to talk about

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 2>why are we having trouble holding onto the current number

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.199
<v Speaker 2>of police or being able to get people to replace

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 2>the number of police who are leaving. This is part

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 2>of what they said to the ABC.

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 9>It is a concern and this is something that all

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 9>commissioners around Australia grappling with. We are seeing an increase

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 9>in attrition and of concern is the rate of resignations

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 9>compared to retirements. Historically we probably sat around sixty five

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 9>percent retirement with the remainder being resignations, but that's more

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 9>around fifty to fifty at the moment, which indicates people

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 9>are leaving policing to pursue other career options.

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Australia has had many Royal commissions, but we absolutely need

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 2>one into the collective PTSD, how it is not prevented

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and how it is not dealt with by the emergency

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 2>services in every state. I remember a few years ago

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I just was sitting playing the pokies and this young

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 2>woman was sitting a couple up. We started a chat up.

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.719
<v Speaker 2>It turned out that she had been a paramedic. She

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 2>was a person who was still in her very early thirties,

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.239
<v Speaker 2>but her post traumatic stress because of what she had

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.880
<v Speaker 2>seen in this job and horrible things that I will

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 2>detail for you here, meant that she wasn't able to

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 2>continue doing the job. So it doesn't matter whether it

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 2>is the female paramedic, the burly bloke in South Australia,

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the fiery in Queensland. We do not support the emergency

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>services in the fashion that we should, and I believe

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 2>that we must have a royal commission that actually looks

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 2>into how we take care of these people. Because despite

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the fact that the federal government in particular kicked and

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 2>dragged and delayed and will look the other way when

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 2>it comes to the way we do with veterans, the

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:37.479
<v Speaker 2>state governments need to understand what is happening with their

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 2>own versions of those defense forces, which are our emergency services.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 2>These people are amazing what they do. The fact that

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 2>when most of them finish, the state is done with them.

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh a little pension here or there, but no support,

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 2>no formal support, no mental health support, let alone again

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the scenario with people who have to see horrible things

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.199
<v Speaker 2>on a Monday being told to go back out and

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.240
<v Speaker 2>do them on Monday afternoon, let alone Tuesday morning or

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 2>next Monday. There are huge problems in the police force.

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 2>The focus right now is South Australia. Let's start there.

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Peter malanowskis, do you have the courage to defend the

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 2>people who have more courage than any of us?

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:17.959
<v Speaker 1>Again, the police commissioner.

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 9>It's certainly a very different job. There's a higher level

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 9>of accountability, more scrutiny, more oversight, more demand.

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Calls in your court opposition. Feel free to mention it too.

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 2>I love when we again do Pomri lives the our

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 2>town shows. I love going into normal Australia. I love

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 2>going at normal times again. One of the places we've

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 2>been beautiful mill Dura. I loved at What a great

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.719
<v Speaker 2>and fun place that was to do I wasn't very

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 2>good at the ber mixing, but we did great things

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 2>and of course we were able to raise a huge

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 2>amount of money for the great people of Humpty Dumpty

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 2>and Mildura Hospital. Well, there is a new tourism campaign

0:27:55.720 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 2>by my body double Kenny, who is the more favored

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:05.919
<v Speaker 2>of the huskier, grayish bearded gents, because he is the

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 2>front of a brand new campaign which is trying to

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 2>get people to come to meal Dura, which has been

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>referred to as tropical North Victoria, which I think is

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 2>very funny and should be supported, unless, of course you're

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 2>the ABC and you've got to go and find somebody

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 2>who complains about it, and they were able to do so.

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 2>They found a lady called Julie. My daughter lives in

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Tropical North Queens and so I know what I'm talking about.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 2>Been there many many times. It was minus three degrees

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago. Here I'm sitting here with

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 2>a heater. I've never got a heater. When I go

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 2>on to my daughter as ever, what was the community input, Julie.

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're lovely and I'm sure you're speaking absolutely

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 2>correctly about how cold it can be. It's a joke,

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:46.959
<v Speaker 2>and it's a funny joke. And that's a good idea

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 2>to tell people that are in Melbourne or other parts

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:50.959
<v Speaker 2>of Victoria. Don't bother go into the gold he come

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 2>to tropical mill Dura.

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a good idea. And dare I say funny?

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Now, remember when Joe Biden told the world that the

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 2>only way he was going to get blasted out of

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 2>the presidency was if God himself sent a message.

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 13>If you can be convinced that you can knock defeat

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 13>Donald Trump while you stand out the terms of the

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 13>Lord or Mighty, comes on something that I might do.

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Two weeks later he was gone.

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Why because Nancy Pelosi knew that he wouldn't win the election. Now,

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 2>of course, this is the party that was going to

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 2>save democracy all the rest of it. But their way

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>of avoiding democracy, which was the public was going to

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 2>vote out to the president, was for them to.

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Switch out the president. You know that by now.

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, Nancy Pelosi, who of course had been a mini

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Dakhead friend and ally and done plenty of favors for

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Biden as he had for her over the years, did

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 2>an interview on CNN Today where she was asked a

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 2>question about the state of their relationship, which I'm sure

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>is not very good. But has this for a bad

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 2>poker face?

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Have you spoken a President Biden since he dropped out? Alhadnah?

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you hope to?

0:29:57.960 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I hope too broad.

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 13>Is everything okay with your relationship?

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>You'd have to ask Kim n I hoko. With friends

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>like these, I hope to one day, have you spoken

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to him? No?

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 8>Wow?

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 2>These people unbelievable right meantime, as for President Harris, the

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 2>expectation is by the time the suns comes up in Australia,

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>but the sun is already up at the America. Right now,

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>we will know whom Vice President Harris plans for her

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 2>vice president to be should she end up winning the

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 2>election against Donald Trump. Now come down to apparently two

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 2>main candidates. One is the governor of Pennsylvania. That would

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 2>help because you need Pennsylvania to win the presidency. But

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 2>his small problem is that he fakes a voice to

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 2>sound like BarackObama.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 8>Somebody willing to say anything to get attention. You deserve

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 8>somebody who knows you. Let me tell you something. He's

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 8>pretty afraid.

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 13>Y'are sees he's backing under the debate.

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 16>Now he's afraid to stand toe to toe with our

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 16>vice president.

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Y'all, it's Pennsylvania, not Oklahoma in the nineteen twenties. The

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 2>other one is the current governor of Minnesota, the one

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 2>who was widely criticized for not calling in the National

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Guard when police stations were overtaken by rioters after the

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 2>death of George Floyd, the.

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 16>Third precinct of the Minneapolis Police Department on fire, nearby

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 16>businesses ablaze.

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>And then is of course the global economy and problems

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the Middle East, which apparently is

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons why one of the two shouldn't

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>be being selected, because they want to avoid riots of

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Convention. Yes, Harris is leading, but she's not

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 2>able to hide in a bubble forever. Although Joe did

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 2>a good job and he won. Her plan is to

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 2>do the same, but to do a basement to her

0:31:55.560 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 2>outside with just as many questions being asked, break back

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 2>with more plenty to discuss you in.

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>A moment's time. And then Nigel Franst from the UK,

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>let's get you.

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 2>So exciting to do the man cave, the man who

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>hosts in my absence done other than the great James Morrow.

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 2>You can find him on the US Reporter outside is

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 2>you kicked ars when I was away?

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 5>Mate, a lot of fun.

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Who's got a great podcast over it and over and

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 2>we'll be joining him next week.

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 8>Yes, thank you very much, my friend.

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Now, we of course are all unified in our view

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 2>that the Prime Minister is the greatest of all time,

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and that's because of his common touch. And I love

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>when he lets us into just a bit of a

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 2>bit of the magic, a bit of a bit of

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 2>the you know, special connection.

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Of course, Albo.

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Decided to record a video call that he had with

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 2>olympianc He released that on Twitter tonight and I just

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>feel authenticity when I see this.

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>For example, number.

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 17>One breaking from Australia, and you have given so much

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 17>pleasure and excite, been and pride to the whole country.

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 17>So well done to all of you.

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>And there was no cringe on this call whatsoever.

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 15>Hey Shane, how are you going? Sew you up there

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 15>proudly with your teammates. It's incredibly inspirational. What's your best

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 15>moment apart from your own sport? Well Well done everyone.

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 2>And no trip to cringe town is complete without.

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, just secured to metal. So I'm about to fight

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 7>on Thursday to change the color.

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Awesome. Awesome. So yeah, you're you're in the semis.

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 7>I am, yes. So no woman's ever won a boxing

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 7>medalal force. I've secured that. So to the early morning

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 7>for you have to set your alarm.

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 15>Oh look we're been getting up very early.

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Here you can see my little friend here, that's Jane.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>It's the special connection he has. It is, you know,

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so natural.

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 5>And you know it's it's it's it's like these great

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 5>unscripted moments and politics, Like the great unscripted moment in

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.439
<v Speaker 5>politics we had the other day when the Clinton's called

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 5>Kamala Harris her cell phone to her ear and she

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 5>also had the clip on microphone on. It's that level

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 5>of genuineness that shows that the that these politicians on

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:26.479
<v Speaker 5>the left, you know that for the working people, they're

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 5>of the working people, they are part of the common humanity,

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 5>the common soil. And so, you know, good on the

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 5>Prime Minister for calling our heroes and giving them that

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 5>genuine revelue.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Have we just got the hater's glasses online? Tell Us,

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 2>tell Us, tell us through the rosies.

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 8>Everything James said completely literally.

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I associated myself with the transcript.

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 16>Is a sports not of course, it was genuine.

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he knew all the details. I've been told

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you are going for a mental Harris.

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 16>We think he's mad. Try and get him away from

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 16>a Bunnies game. You can't. When Harris got the phone

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 16>call from the Obamas, she had like she had a.

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 8>Film crew that would putting modern day blockbusters to shave.

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 8>But there's kind of ways, you know, at least the.

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Australian PMS holding his own Teah, they're well done.

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 8>But that's the speed talking about. I thought it was

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 8>very sweet.

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Now, today the AZO boss came forward and quite interestingly

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 2>said that MP's have a role to play when it

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 2>comes to the overall lowering of the tone, but also

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 2>calling out of the behaviors that are the beginnings or

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 2>the outright radicalization of people. We saw Azio yesterday. Of course,

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 2>say no fixed address to any ideology that happened to

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 2>be connecting. Now, we do know there are examples of

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>things across the spectrum, but there are quite a few

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>at the moment. We can talk about literal terrorist attacks

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 2>that have taken place, the planning of those terrorists that

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 2>tax that have taken place. But you know, everyone's got

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>a problem here. But what about the political side of this, right,

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 2>because it's pretty obvious that the Labor Party aren't riving

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 2>it up, it's pretty probably pretty obvious that Liberal Party

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.280
<v Speaker 2>aren't riving it up. It's pretty obvious that the grains

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 2>and there's been plenty of reporting that you guys have

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 2>alread and seen and done about how dirty some of

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 2>their hands can be in the facilitating of some of

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 2>the people who go off into the terrible things. Yet

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Labor will still, when faced with the choice, given their preferences.

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 5>Yes, they certainly will. And so you know, I also

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 5>have a bit of a problem with some of this

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 5>talk around dialing down the tone even because to me

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.320
<v Speaker 5>this feels like one of these things where they always

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 5>want to dial it down, but they only want to

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.360
<v Speaker 5>dial down, you know, one of the two sacks.

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:38.879
<v Speaker 1>They don't want to dial them both down.

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 5>And you know, personally, I think, and you know, I

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 5>want to take a look at like what's happening in

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 5>Britain right now. And what's happening in Britain right now

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 5>is because for it's horrible, but it's also because for

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 5>years and decades. You know, people who have tried to

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 5>talk about certain really unpleasant things that have been going

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 5>on had been squelched and dialed down, and then that

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 5>builds up pressure. So my speech is always the release

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 5>and the way that bad ideas are contested. So on

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 5>some level, you know, it's good on a level when

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:13.800
<v Speaker 5>we can see, for example, you know, hate preachers speaking

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 5>about things, and we can criticize that, and we can

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 5>call that, be aware of it, because it's much worse

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 5>if we say, hey, we're not going to talk about

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 5>some of the underlying issues there, because that might, you know,

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 5>have people have the wrong ideas about things, and then

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 5>you might have sold.

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's all this sort.

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Of again the sort of the nebulous code everything in

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 2>the past couple of days. Right now, they can turn

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 2>around and say, look, here are the ten most recent incidences,

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 2>and these are the ten things that link them together.

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.879
<v Speaker 2>All right now, if six of the ten or four

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 2>of the ten, or one of the ten, then you

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>can list those as the overall picture. But again to

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 2>this point about politics. Right now, I understand that mathematically

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.359
<v Speaker 2>the Labor Party does not exist without Green's preferences, But

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 2>how can you simultaneously be raising the terror threat, having

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 2>public information about some about the political party that is

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 2>at the very least facilitating some of the conversations that start.

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>To lead people in directions. You're still give them their preferences.

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 16>I think the truth is that in a compulsory preferential

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 16>voting system like the one where you have, inevitably you'll

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:21.439
<v Speaker 16>be preferencing people who you don't like very much, and

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 16>you will end up receiving preferences from them even though

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 16>you don't like them very much. And that's just how

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 16>it works. And we talk about what's happening in the UK,

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 16>I can guarantee you there will be people who are

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 16>sympathetic with that who will be getting and receiving preferences

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 16>from the National Party or the Liberal Party, and they're

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 16>not going to like it, and they'll hold their nose.

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:37.839
<v Speaker 16>And it's the same with the Greens. I think the

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 16>PM has actually been really strong on this. I don't

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 16>think i've seen a prime minister. I mean, look, let's

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:47.439
<v Speaker 16>not forget the horror show of the previous Labor government

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 16>where a deal was actually done with the Greens' government

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 16>saying we want nothing to do with you.

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 8>Will never form a coalition with you.

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 16>He's accused them of basically sort of enabling the sort

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 16>of high temperatures that have inflated this terror threat. I mean,

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 16>that's an incredibly strong thing to say. And I don't

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 16>disagree with him, by the way, because I think when

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 16>you legitimize things like vandalism of war memorials, which one

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 16>of the Greens did, then again you're just opening the door.

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 16>The next question just becomes, all right, well how far

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 16>how far do you go? Is it just property like

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 16>the Suffragettes?

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 8>Is it life? Is it? You know?

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 16>Like, where do you Suddenly you're saying, okay, we approve

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 16>of political violence. It's just just time to talk about

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 16>the line. So I think he has been really strong.

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 16>I think he's personally, I think and know he is

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 16>sick to the back teeth of them hanging around his

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 16>electric office and making staff scared to go in.

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 5>But he let them hang around for six months.

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but I don't.

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 16>Again, it's like with the City of Union stuff, and look,

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 16>I have absolutely no love for these people.

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 7>They have.

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 1>You call the cops over helps out for a day?

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>You happy by I.

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 16>Think if we're talking about free speech before, I think

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.359
<v Speaker 16>it is difficult that they're not actually in the office.

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 8>They're just around it and there, and people obviously do

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 8>not shut the office though, Okay, they shut the office down.

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 16>That's right, because obviously no one wants to walk through again.

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 16>I mean, I've been heckled by the exact same people

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 16>at A Yeah, and they knew who I was as well.

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:13.399
<v Speaker 1>So let's get to But enough about but the most

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:14.439
<v Speaker 1>important part of your career.

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I understand Stephen Miles pretending that he's going to be

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 2>able to fix petrol prices by maybe if re elected,

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 2>building twelve petrol. This is about as low rent as

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 2>you can get. It really is. I keep saying, it's

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>like Homo Simpson running to be sanitation commissioner. Right, It's

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 2>just we promised to do everything. Does anyone believe this stuff?

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.839
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, pul we were sitting downstairs before that.

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 5>Stephen Miles feels like a gambler who's lost everything in

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 5>their chuck at the car key is taking off the

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:46.840
<v Speaker 5>jewelry and throwing the watch out there. They're spinning every

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 5>last spin, hoping for that big because I.

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:49.359
<v Speaker 15>Got a chance.

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 5>Two is the Stephen Miles Soviet here where you know Cobrad.

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 5>We will have Steven the petrel bowsers will be very cheap.

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 5>I think though, this is part of the greed, you know,

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 5>lefty plan to get everybody into electric vehicles by destroying

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 5>the entire.

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Patrol station infrastructure.

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 5>Joe. And then and then then there was like, well

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 5>we got to buy ITV now because Stephen Byles screwed

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 5>it all up.

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 16>You should have been building state run EV charging stations.

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Well what about it that properly runs state owned hospitals

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 2>in terms of priorities, but only for us?

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Correct?

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 2>It just smells in every way about about how desperate

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 2>things happen to be.

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I've got a minute here.

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 2>We'll find out in the next little while about whom

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris chooses as vice president. Let's get a prediction

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 2>so we can prove that one of you is wrong.

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Is it going to be the governor of Minnesota or

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:42.839
<v Speaker 2>the governor of Pennsylvania?

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>James Minnesota, Pennsylvania.

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 2>So the interesting thing there is that he opens the

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 2>door to the George Flyer George Floyd Wright's response, or

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 2>it opens to the lunatics turning up because they don't

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:57.240
<v Speaker 2>like that he is pro Israel.

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 8>Bring the lunatics is Jewish.

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 16>But yes, apparently there is a test where you can

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 16>find out how many edits have been made to the

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 16>Wikipedia pages of vice presidential candidates. And jd Vance has

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 16>shot up just before Trump announced him and Shapiro have

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 16>shot up.

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:20.320
<v Speaker 2>So you're on the yep all right, and you're ignoring

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 2>fedam and interesting to say thank you lads when of'

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 2>youll been right or wrong? We'll find out with the

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 2>US report on Friday, and of course Joe every other

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 2>time here piece on sits Sky News Quick break back

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 2>with more plenty to talk about. Nigel Farrage. What's going

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:31.399
<v Speaker 2>on in the UK?

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 1>One a sec. Nigel Farrag needs no introductions and.

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Mainly the United Kingdom of course, the leader of the

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Reform Party and a parliamentarian now of course after the

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 2>most recent UK election, Nigel, love you to see you also,

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 2>good to see you back on gbing News as well.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>But I've got to ask you.

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 2>One of the things that you reiterated at almost every

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 2>rally when you were in the lead up to the

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 2>election was that you had perched political parties of the

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 2>of the far right, that you had gone hard against

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:06.879
<v Speaker 2>all of these people. Yet amazingly and unsurprisingly the very

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 2>despite your your proven trek record of doing that, the

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 2>media is trying to pull you into the worst elements

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 2>of what we've been seeing in the past few days.

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's been despicable.

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:23.760
<v Speaker 18>I mean broadcast as saying these are Farag's riots, prominent

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 18>labor politicians. This is what Nigel Faraj wanted. Yeah, you know,

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 18>as if somehow I'm responsible, some even suggesting that I'm

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 18>orchestrating the riots. I've spent thirty years fighting elections, believing

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 18>that is the way to solve problems in society, not

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 18>to resort to violence. I've never gone anywhere near I

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 18>wouldn't touch with a barge. Poll members of the extreme

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 18>right who say very provocative things, like Tommy Robinson or

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 18>the others. The reason they hate me, the reason they're

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 18>blaming me is twofold. The first is the Labor Party

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 18>are terrified that many of their own voters will vote

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 18>for me, because when kir Starmer, our Prime Minister, says

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 18>everything that's happening is the fault of the far right. Well, yes,

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 18>of course there are some far right thugs behaving appallingly,

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:23.800
<v Speaker 18>but actually, when it comes to being concerned about mass immigration,

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 18>when it comes to being concerned about societal breakdown, when

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 18>it comes to being worried that many of our towns

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:35.240
<v Speaker 18>and cities are no longer recognizable as even being English.

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 18>If you use that term far right, you're using it

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.840
<v Speaker 18>against your own voters and a majority of the population.

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 18>That's the first reason they're attacking me. They're scared of

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.839
<v Speaker 18>me politically. The second reason is I was right. I

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 18>said last Wednesday that unless we cleared up some of

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 18>the conspiracy theories on social media by telling us the

0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 18>truth about who this young man was that stabbed to

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 18>death those three little girls at that Taylor Swift party,

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 18>unless we sourted it out that I said, I felt

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 18>the country was on the verge of revolt. Well, we

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.800
<v Speaker 18>didn't clear up the mass and we have had a revolt.

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.439
<v Speaker 18>So they secondly hate me because I was right.

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 2>What I find so dishonest by those who again seek

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 2>to tar the people that have spoken about a very

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 2>obvious issue right so say, illegal border crossings right now,

0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:37.799
<v Speaker 2>very obviously you can have an absolute passionate view on

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that issue. That does not mean that you endorse somebody

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 2>breaking into the places where some of those people who

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 2>are legally into the.

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Country end up.

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 2>This is what I find again, the maliciousness in and

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 2>around this. I mean, we can sit here for the

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 2>next eight minutes doing what I know you've done on

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:55.320
<v Speaker 2>your show in the UK and what we've done here,

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 2>which is the riots are despicable. They are not acceptable.

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Everyone who involved in the violence must be held to

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 2>account just like anyone else who does it. But that

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean you can't have the view about does a

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 2>country have a border and are you allowed to police it?

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 18>Well, that's right, And one of the fears here, you know,

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 18>by Starmer saying we're going to crack down on the

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 18>far right, We're going to use video imaging, one of

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 18>the worries is that they actually try to suppress that

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 18>debate even further whilst effectively turning a blind eye to

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 18>marauding gangs of masked Muslim young men walking around some

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 18>of our cities in a very intimidatory way. Don't misunderstand me,

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 18>most of the thuggery has been young white males setting

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.279
<v Speaker 18>far out of things and behaving terribly. But it's not

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 18>as if it's just one side that's fault with all

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 18>of this. Now, I really worry that Starmer may use

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 18>this to try and suppressed eight, to suppress free speech,

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.760
<v Speaker 18>to make it even harder to talk about these issues.

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.919
<v Speaker 18>And no one's spoken out more pool than me about

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 18>the cross Channel migrants. The young men, undocumented young males

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 18>who isis themselves have said they'll put their operatives into

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 18>our country through this route. And yet what I was

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 18>out there three years ago in the Channel and there

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 18>were two young men that capsized from a dinghy, you

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 18>know there I was physically putting them out of the

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 18>English Channel. And the fact you think something's wrong doesn't

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 18>mean you're a subhuman percent Let's.

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Talk quickly about the economies of the world that have

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:38.399
<v Speaker 2>all had a jiner in the past couple of days.

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 2>In is what an absolute reminder about what is the

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 2>choice before the American public? Here where Kamala Harris, who

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 2>just would sell it to her way through an explanation

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 2>of inflation, would have no idea what leave it a pool?

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 18>No, And of course what we're learning is that the

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 18>Americans have been ever so slightly playing games with the

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 18>economic figures as this election approaches, and as the truth

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 18>got out towards the end of last week that the

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 18>American economy is slowing that the Fed have not reduced

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 18>interest rates as quickly as they ought to. We've seen

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:21.720
<v Speaker 18>some precipitous downward moves on stock markets, Japan of course

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:25.080
<v Speaker 18>being perhaps the biggest example. But I think we're now

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 18>entering a period of economic reality. We're living way beyond

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 18>our means. Debt is much much worse at a governmental,

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 18>corporate and individual level than it was back in two

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 18>thousand and eight. Growth in most countries is anemic. Growth

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:47.360
<v Speaker 18>even in America is not quite as good as people

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:49.720
<v Speaker 18>thought it was. And whilst I'm not on your show

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:53.319
<v Speaker 18>to make stock market predictions, I think we're in for

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 18>a very very bumpy autumn on the stock exchanges as

0:48:57.840 --> 0:48:59.440
<v Speaker 18>this reality begins to bite.

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 2>And depending on the choices that are made in the

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.239
<v Speaker 2>next little while about whom that VP is, well, a

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:06.440
<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of stuff is going to happen in Chicago.

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Let alone, the court process revving up again against Trump

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:11.879
<v Speaker 2>will be fascinating to watch. Thankfully, we get to talk

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:13.800
<v Speaker 2>to you and see you on JB News. Thank you, Nigel,

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:15.680
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. That's our shaffa and I will see you

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 2>again tomorrow.

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Here's the late debate