Speaker 1: From the skying In Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Thank you Sharry. Happy Tuesday forrever you happen to be
Speaker 2: around the country. Within this hour, we expect to hear
Speaker 2: whom Kamala Harris thinks could be her vice president.
Speaker 1: That announcement as soon as it lands, along with a
Speaker 1: more analysis.
Speaker 2: And great debate with James Morrow, Joe Hillebrand and the
Speaker 2: great Node Ferrard joining us from the UK where the
Speaker 2: problems will.
Speaker 1: They stack up by the hour.
Speaker 2: But first, this is a program that is thankful of
Speaker 2: our modern history, that is respectful of the people who
Speaker 2: came home from World War II and built this country
Speaker 2: into the place worth defending each and every day. Well,
Speaker 2: as you will have heard today, the last of the
Speaker 2: Rats of Tabrook.
Speaker 1: Has left us.
Speaker 2: More than fourteen thousand men ended up serving their country
Speaker 2: in that part of the theater of World War II,
Speaker 2: the Libyan port of course of Tabrook. Well, Tom Pritchard
Speaker 2: is the last, and he has died today aged one
Speaker 2: hundred and two. Now you know inside and out the
Speaker 2: details of the Rats of Trabrook for those who they
Speaker 2: will be watching.
Speaker 1: Us later on the internet or maybe just of a
Speaker 1: different vintage.
Speaker 2: You don't remember all of the details here. How did
Speaker 2: the Rats of de Brook get the name of the
Speaker 2: Rats of Tabrook? Well, the Australian War Memorial has got
Speaker 2: many pieces of information that they led up onto the Internet,
Speaker 2: as well as the incredible displays that you can go
Speaker 2: and see in Camber in his part of their explanation
Speaker 2: behind the name the Rats of de Brook.
Speaker 3: Because the Tabrook Garrison was forced to dig in under
Speaker 3: constant bombardment, the Nazi propagandist Lord Hawhorn declared that they
Speaker 3: were caught like rats in a trap. The men, hearing
Speaker 3: this on the radio, adopted the name as a defiant
Speaker 3: badge of pride and became the Rats of Tabrook. Major
Speaker 3: General Leslie morse Head was their very aggressive commander, a
Speaker 3: Gallipoli veteran.
Speaker 1: His troops dubbed.
Speaker 3: Him ming the Merciless. It was a spirit that he
Speaker 3: passed on to his men, who, rather than being passive
Speaker 3: and waiting for the Germans and Italians to come to them,
Speaker 3: went out into no man's land each night to patrol
Speaker 3: and to harass the enemy.
Speaker 1: The Australian efforts into Brook also produced Australia's first recipient
Speaker 1: of the Victoria Cross.
Speaker 3: The Siege of Tbrook offers examples of humor, matship and endurance.
Speaker 3: It also has its stories of great heroism.
Speaker 4: Jack emission as the first Australian of the Second World
Speaker 4: Gore to be awarded a Victoria Cross. Jack was involved
Speaker 4: in a very bitter, bloody hand to hand action on
Speaker 4: the night of the thirteenth of April, where he saved
Speaker 4: the life of his commanding officer, but he was mortally
Speaker 4: wounded in action.
Speaker 2: I apologize, one of the first Australians to receive the
Speaker 2: Victoria Cross and one of the fourteen thousand people who
Speaker 2: are sadly no longer with us. But the world is
Speaker 2: a bitter place because of what they did. Is again
Speaker 2: a story supplied in the same video by the Woman Royal.
Speaker 2: A man by the name of John Johnson, and he
Speaker 2: of course was one of many who decided to go
Speaker 2: off to defend his country, to defend the then Empire,
Speaker 2: and to of course repel the Germans. The simple story
Speaker 2: of where he came from and what was left behind
Speaker 2: is the same as OsO Mini, who died on those
Speaker 2: and many other fronts.
Speaker 4: He was a carpenter from rural Victoria. He was a
Speaker 4: father of eight children when he went off to war.
Speaker 4: Each staated his right to John about a simple things school,
Speaker 4: the chickens not laying eggs. Tragically, though, Josephine gets a
Speaker 4: telegram saying John's been killed, but his letters continue to
Speaker 4: arrive home for some weeks after the event.
Speaker 2: Our eternal thanks to all of the rats of to
Speaker 2: Brook after losing the final one today and slowly but
Speaker 2: surely the fourteen thousand before, strength and love to Tom
Speaker 2: Pritchett's family, to John Johnson's family, and to everyone else
Speaker 2: who's served their country, not just on that but in
Speaker 2: every other theater of war, from the legends of our
Speaker 2: past to the of today. And that's what I've got
Speaker 2: plenty to talk about today.
Speaker 1: Now, you know.
Speaker 2: I love Queensland. Last night celebrating that Queensland, if it
Speaker 2: was a country, would be higher on the middle tally
Speaker 2: than other places. You know, any opportunity to muck around,
Speaker 2: to have some fun to do in our town, but
Speaker 2: it holiday or for work. I want to be in Queensland.
Speaker 2: I want to be a Queenslander, no question right. Well,
Speaker 2: of course they have the upcoming pool writing. That was fun,
Speaker 2: wasn't it, And also as you know, the Queensland election
Speaker 2: coming up sooner rather than later. It'll be the final
Speaker 2: weekend in October. Will there be a new premier fingers
Speaker 2: crossed hopefully?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 2: Because the current one is obviously not the standard and
Speaker 2: the government that he and then Palachet before has led
Speaker 2: is completely terrible.
Speaker 1: But they are incredibly good at politics.
Speaker 2: And even though it seems like they're going out the
Speaker 2: back door, remember latest polling suggesting that they're facing something
Speaker 2: close to, if not guaranteed to be a wipeout, they
Speaker 2: most likely are set to lose. Now, I throw in
Speaker 2: all the caveats because firstly, nothing is inevitable. Twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: taught us all of that. But secondly, these people go
Speaker 2: out of their way and are shameless in the ways
Speaker 2: that they hope to brick themselves into office.
Speaker 1: Now they deserve to go. They deserve to go last.
Speaker 2: Term, but COVID was able to prop them up to
Speaker 2: give them another term. They thought the Olympics would be
Speaker 2: able to serve them for this term many terms to come,
Speaker 2: but the reality of Queensland under Labor has now come
Speaker 2: to a crashing halt. But this government thinks that they
Speaker 2: can find new ways to change the subject. In fact,
Speaker 2: their expectation is that they're going to be able to
Speaker 2: spend literally b four billions of dollars on so called
Speaker 2: cost of living relief.
Speaker 1: They say so called. These are all policies.
Speaker 2: That start in and around the election, and they run
Speaker 2: out by definitely this time next year, like say fifty
Speaker 2: cents on the trains or one thousand dollars on power bills.
Speaker 2: But today were we hit a new low and these
Speaker 2: two were already new lows. Well he found a new one.
Speaker 2: The plan of the Miles government is to introduce government
Speaker 2: owned service stations to bring down the price of petrol.
Speaker 6: Stephen Miles also wants to create government owned petrol stations.
Speaker 7: Stephen Miles also pledging to build twelve new government owned
Speaker 7: service stations.
Speaker 2: Laborwood trial twelve publicly owned fuel stations. This is rubbish,
Speaker 2: This is utter garbage. They're not talking about buying existing independence.
Speaker 2: They are talking about building twelve new petrol stations. Now,
Speaker 2: of course the detail of all of this, which they
Speaker 2: don't care about. They just want to have another thing
Speaker 2: on the list of things that the reason that they're
Speaker 2: going to fix cost of living, all of which run out,
Speaker 2: of course within the first twelve months. And these things,
Speaker 2: of course, even if they were re elected, will never
Speaker 2: be built. Remember, they won't be increasing drilling for oil
Speaker 2: and then refining it in Queens and they'll have to
Speaker 2: be buying it off the overseas market like everyone else
Speaker 2: does in Australia, because Australia does not even refine petrol anymore.
Speaker 2: Bob Catter for a long time has talked about this,
Speaker 2: The late and great Senator Jim Molan has talked about this.
Speaker 2: So their ability to affects the price is literally just
Speaker 2: the government running for the sake of the billboard loss leading.
Speaker 2: Our governments can do that because despite the fact that
Speaker 2: the money still has to be borrowed from somewhere, the
Speaker 2: consequences don't exist for government that exists the business. But
Speaker 2: amazingly this detail, which you would think would sink the announcement,
Speaker 2: didn't stop the announcement, making the headline news that we
Speaker 2: just showed you. There's no details, there's no plan to
Speaker 2: do this between now and the election. It's all after
Speaker 2: the election, so it's just a BS promise. And as
Speaker 2: the Qurier Marl pointed out today, Premier Stephen Mars has
Speaker 2: admitted an election commitment to open state owned fuel stations
Speaker 2: at a cost of thirty six million dollars was not
Speaker 2: backed by modeling or research. So it's a thought bubble.
Speaker 2: It's an idea from labor HQ. It is not an
Speaker 2: idea from anyone with any idea of how public policy works.
Speaker 2: And while for most people that don't care, they just
Speaker 2: focus on what the vibe is, this is all about
Speaker 2: trying to change the vibe. But when he's pressed on
Speaker 2: the detail, it's pretty obvious that no one's done the
Speaker 2: homework on this ridiculous idea.
Speaker 3: Have you done your own modeling or an own research
Speaker 3: or have you relied on ourcqs.
Speaker 6: This is our election commitment for what we will do
Speaker 6: for Queenslanders to drive down the price of fuel going forward.
Speaker 8: You haven't done any research.
Speaker 9: You described an idea from the RAC cues that might
Speaker 9: help with the election.
Speaker 8: Not at all.
Speaker 6: This is a detailed package of initiatives designed to address
Speaker 6: what we know from Queenslanders is one of their biggest concerns.
Speaker 8: So what research is the government done on this?
Speaker 6: Well, this is an election commitment and it's a commitment
Speaker 6: that I am making to Queenslanders.
Speaker 8: Here's a question, have you done, model it or not? Well,
Speaker 8: this is an election committment.
Speaker 1: What does that mean, model or not?
Speaker 6: This is an election commitment. So it hasn't been produced
Speaker 6: by the public service.
Speaker 1: It's so they can stand in front of the poster. Now, firstly, again, the.
Speaker 2: Idea that twelve petrol stations are going to affect the
Speaker 2: overall price a petrol that's available in Queensland is garbage.
Speaker 2: Where and how they get the fuel They'll have to
Speaker 2: buy it from the same places as everywhere else because
Speaker 2: they're not a private company. Yes, there's some margins they
Speaker 2: may be able to fiddle.
Speaker 1: With, but again, no detail, no thinking.
Speaker 2: It's just so they can make you think that public
Speaker 2: transports fifty cents, they'll pay your power bill, and now
Speaker 2: they're going to somehow magically push down the global oil price.
Speaker 2: They're not able to do any of those things. And
Speaker 2: if they were able to commit to the current round
Speaker 2: of spending, it's billions of dollars. They literally took the
Speaker 2: surplus that came from increase royalties, particularly in and around coal,
Speaker 2: and they are hurdling it up the wall, literally just
Speaker 2: throwing it out the window. On the assumption that Queenslanders
Speaker 2: are so stupid. They're not paying attention. Well, there is
Speaker 2: no one in Queensland who is seriously going to think
Speaker 2: that these people are serious about deserving another four years
Speaker 2: in power when this is the low road that they
Speaker 2: plan to go, and they've got billions of dollars left
Speaker 2: and plenty more announcements. They won't do any homework on whatsoever.
Speaker 1: This is stupid.
Speaker 2: Remember when Homer Simpson ran for the Sanitation Commissioner and
Speaker 2: in order to win an election, he just promised everything. Well,
Speaker 2: unsurprisingly it all ran out of money after just a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: This is exactly that.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to call Stephen Miles the Homer
Speaker 2: Simpson of Australian politics because that's too big a compliment.
Speaker 2: But anyone who remembers the show knows it doesn't end
Speaker 2: very well for the everyone gets surprised.
Speaker 1: Everyone can eat cake candidacy.
Speaker 2: Unsurprisingly, the people of the Courier Male reading this story today,
Speaker 2: they hate it. Thousands of people have voted thus far,
Speaker 2: and it's what the best part of eighty.
Speaker 1: Four percent of people. They think it's a stupid idea.
Speaker 2: The Liberal Party will they of course, following the bound
Speaker 2: ball of detail. I think This is dumb too.
Speaker 10: Stephen Miles is on the side of multinationals and he
Speaker 10: will wipe out independent retailers, therefore creating less competition in
Speaker 10: the markplace, in the marketplace, therefore driving up petrol prices
Speaker 10: for Queenslanders. It will have the complete opposite effect that
Speaker 10: he thinks this will have.
Speaker 2: Okay, another thing about this bloke, and again I'm going
Speaker 2: to hone it on this because this is not just
Speaker 2: hardcore Australian politics, but this is an opportunity to send
Speaker 2: a bad government packing to not fall. For all of
Speaker 2: the hucksters and the games and the clever ads and
Speaker 2: the ugur boogers about Campbell Newman from ten years ago
Speaker 2: that have largely been able to keep Labor in power.
Speaker 2: Today Stephen Miles again court with the Labour Party's hand
Speaker 2: in the taxpayer till they are spending yet again millions
Speaker 2: of dollars on taxpayer ads that are all overtly about
Speaker 2: trying to win votes at the election. But nothing to
Speaker 2: see here. Meantime, here's the reality of Queensland. The number
Speaker 2: of people who are staying in hospitals for long periods
Speaker 2: of time because there is nowhere else for them to go.
Speaker 2: Is now at a record high. The number of people
Speaker 2: that sit in the back of an ambulance because there's
Speaker 2: no room for the person to come from the ambulance
Speaker 2: into the hospital is.
Speaker 1: Also at a record high.
Speaker 2: And in a despicable example of all talk no action
Speaker 2: when it comes to mental health and particularly the mental
Speaker 2: health of women in Brisbane story from the Courier mar
Speaker 2: no doctor was the Royal Brisbane Women's Hospital in their
Speaker 2: emergency SICH unit on one night after ten thirty at night.
Speaker 1: So literally, if somebody was having a.
Speaker 2: Breakdown or needed immediate medical intervention because of their mental
Speaker 2: health episode, not one doctor in one of the biggest
Speaker 2: hospitals in the entire state. Put simply, Queenslanders have a
Speaker 2: finely tuned bs met. It should be going wild at
Speaker 2: this election. Flush this mob, get rid of them. Please,
Speaker 2: for the sake of your fellow Queenslanders, get rid of
Speaker 2: this government. They are laughing at you behind the scenes
Speaker 2: about how dumb they think you are and you can
Speaker 2: be bought off with garbage like they tried to serve
Speaker 2: up today. Please, for millions of people they were nervous
Speaker 2: about what was going to happen with the Reserve Bank today, Thankfully,
Speaker 2: what we predicted happened, which is nothing.
Speaker 3: Mortgage holders have been spared further pain with the Reserve
Speaker 3: Bank today leaving the cash rate on hold, official interest
Speaker 3: rates on hold at four point three five percent.
Speaker 1: Tonight, interest rates on hold and set to stay there.
Speaker 2: And that's the big issue here, which is, as I've
Speaker 2: said before, the pressure that has been building over all
Speaker 2: of these months is now at a breaking point. There
Speaker 2: is a political breaking point whenever interest rates go up,
Speaker 2: should they ever go up.
Speaker 1: But today.
Speaker 2: Michelle Bullok made it very clear what was happening behind
Speaker 2: the scenes when they were discussing what to do next.
Speaker 11: Yes, the Board did consider a rate rise at this
Speaker 11: meeting as well as a hold. The Board is trying,
Speaker 11: as we've said in the past, to steer a narrow
Speaker 11: path here not resulting and a spike in unemployment, keeping
Speaker 11: the interest rate where it is, and making sure that
Speaker 11: people understand that a rate cut is not on the
Speaker 11: agenda in the near term given what we know that
Speaker 11: continued pressure will help to keep demand coming back into
Speaker 11: line with supply.
Speaker 2: Now, all of this is all very clever. When we're
Speaker 2: talking about inflation, they want it between two and three percent.
Speaker 2: Reality is it's now closer to four percent than it
Speaker 2: is three percent based off the latest numbers. But also
Speaker 2: the reality is is that in the past financial year,
Speaker 2: the average mortgage in Australia costs fifty six thousand dollars
Speaker 2: more to pay off than he did twelve months ago.
Speaker 1: Let alone, once you start.
Speaker 2: To put together the full effect of two years of
Speaker 2: albow and charmers in charge of our economy, not one,
Speaker 2: not two, not three, not four, not five, not six,
Speaker 2: not seven, not eight, not nine, not ten, not eleven,
Speaker 2: but twelve, interest rate rises.
Speaker 1: Thankfully, there's a platter right now.
Speaker 2: But the expectation is it's just as big a chance
Speaker 2: to go up as it is to go down. And
Speaker 2: as you heard from the Reserve Bank governor today, the
Speaker 2: reality is they're not going to do anything for maybe
Speaker 2: another six months. So that financial pain that you have
Speaker 2: been sitting in month after month after month, at this
Speaker 2: huge high we're at right now, the highest in a generation,
Speaker 2: twelve times it has risen since this government came to power.
Speaker 2: The media would like to, of course, like to pretend that, oh,
Speaker 2: will it becomes a problem for the government at the
Speaker 2: thirteenth No, it was a problem of the twelfth, the
Speaker 2: eleventh to tenth and all the rest right interest rates
Speaker 2: are fundamental to with the Australian economy and about people's
Speaker 2: interaction with that economy, their capacity to live where they
Speaker 2: choose to live, or to borrow the money for the
Speaker 2: place that they would like to live. And right now
Speaker 2: it is demonstrably worse that it has been for a
Speaker 2: very long time, and specifically worse after there was a
Speaker 2: change of government a couple of years ago and again
Speaker 2: no change for six months.
Speaker 11: The Board's feeling is that the market path at the
Speaker 11: moment is pricing in interstrate reductions by the end of
Speaker 11: this year. I think the board's feeling is that the
Speaker 11: near term in the next by the end of the year,
Speaker 11: in the next six months. That doesn't align given what
Speaker 11: the Board knows at the moment, and given what the
Speaker 11: four casts are that that doesn't align with their thinking
Speaker 11: about interstrate reductions at the moment.
Speaker 2: So the chance nothing happens for the rest of this year,
Speaker 2: and then we're of course into the February meeting next year.
Speaker 2: All of that, of course becoming quite complicated when it
Speaker 2: comes to the politics.
Speaker 1: But I don't care about the politics, care about the reality.
Speaker 2: Of Australians who are suffocating under the bills that they
Speaker 2: have to pay right now. But of course if you
Speaker 2: ask the treasure everything's fine.
Speaker 12: This decision is welcome because it recognizes the progress that
Speaker 12: we've made on underlying inflation, the softness in our economy,
Speaker 12: and also that very substantial global economic uncertainty that we're
Speaker 12: seeing play out in markets around the world.
Speaker 2: Of course it doesn't, but this is the one two
Speaker 2: game that Charmers has put in place. Remember the reason
Speaker 2: the government didn't copy it about most of the twelve
Speaker 2: was because that was all evil Philip Low. Well, then,
Speaker 2: of course Michelle Bullock replaced, handpicked by the Treasurer, she
Speaker 2: increased it twice over. Oh but now the treasure now
Speaker 2: it's not just the treasure are talking. When the Reserve
Speaker 2: Bank makes this decision, the Reserve Bank has to come
Speaker 2: out and do a press conference. So then we have
Speaker 2: the government responding to see blame them, blame them as if,
Speaker 2: of course there are no participants in their own economy. Thankfully,
Speaker 2: there are great people that are willing to call out
Speaker 2: the absurdity of this treasurer, the messaging and the decision making,
Speaker 2: and they're way smarter than me, and they're more specific
Speaker 2: in their understanding, like the economics reporter for The Australian.
Speaker 2: The Wonder of Judi's Sloane been on the show plenty
Speaker 2: of times. You can see a lots of times on Sky.
Speaker 2: I love reading her stuff and she says all can
Speaker 2: no responsibility. Jimbo nomics is failing to deliver. Instead of
Speaker 2: focusing on ways of lifting productivity, charmers as sat back
Speaker 2: while other ministers have introduced policies that further harm productivity,
Speaker 2: most notably Industrial Relations, Energy and the NDIS. She goes
Speaker 2: on to say Charmer's ownership of the dubious Future Made
Speaker 2: in Australia is another black mark against his reputation as
Speaker 2: the lobbyist's flock to argue for questionable projects that push
Speaker 2: the right buttons. Remember that's about twenty eight billion dollars
Speaker 2: worth of stuff promoting the renewable energy superpower in particular.
Speaker 2: Any failures seen as the fault of the Treasurer and
Speaker 2: his ill equipped department. But of course it will all
Speaker 2: be spun the other way by a very friendly media.
Speaker 1: The idea that the Treasury, with its.
Speaker 2: Commercially naive and inexperienced officials, can identify strategic sectors is
Speaker 2: complete nonsense, absolutely hallily, yeah, right on. Anyone who's been
Speaker 2: watching the stock market the past couple of days knows
Speaker 2: that it's had one heck of a correction, now slightly,
Speaker 2: but surely what goes down eventually starts to come back up,
Speaker 2: and lots of people makes lots of money in both directions.
Speaker 2: But it's another reminder about just how brittle things are,
Speaker 2: which is why you don't want this person to be
Speaker 2: anywhere near the global economy for the next four years.
Speaker 13: Bidenamics is working. Last month we created one hundred and
Speaker 13: eighty seven thousand new jobs. That means today one hundred
Speaker 13: and eighty seven thousand more Americans are able to go
Speaker 13: to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's generally what a job means. She's a brat.
Speaker 2: Meantime, here in Australia, a more familiar person like Mark Buris,
Speaker 2: remember the Australian host at one point of the Celebrity Apprentice,
Speaker 2: the manknown for of course many a.
Speaker 1: Mortgage over the years.
Speaker 2: He's on the radio today saying, guess what Australia is
Speaker 2: in a recession? Of course, the per capita recession. We've
Speaker 2: been talking about it here for the whole time, five
Speaker 2: quarters in a row, more than a year of us
Speaker 2: going backwards.
Speaker 1: Well, he said so too this morning.
Speaker 14: We are definitely in a recession. I don't know why
Speaker 14: they don't look at that number. They just look at
Speaker 14: the overall number. I don't know why that's the big deal.
Speaker 14: But on a per capita absolutely, which means our standard
Speaker 14: living ban is reducing. The standard living per person in
Speaker 14: this country is lower than it was two years ago.
Speaker 2: Well said, watch this space because much of the media
Speaker 2: will not wish to do it, because it's difficult for
Speaker 2: a government that is making things worse. Because, of course,
Speaker 2: their solution many of the people who are paid to
Speaker 2: be the gatekeepers of the bubble to make sure that
Speaker 2: the left and far left remain in power in this
Speaker 2: country for many elections to come. Well, of course they
Speaker 2: don't want to call out this government on that central
Speaker 2: promise which we all know that they ended up failing on,
Speaker 2: which was that if you vote for a labor government
Speaker 2: you will end up with a lower cost of living.
Speaker 2: So of course their target is Peter Dutton, and even
Speaker 2: in a piece today that started to point out what
Speaker 2: some of the problems were for the Prime Minister and
Speaker 2: some of his failures. Peter Dutton is of course the
Speaker 2: great savior and the great reason why this government no
Speaker 2: doubt will be re elected, either in a majority or
Speaker 2: potentially in a minority. And this of course is written
Speaker 2: by former Gillard's staff for somebody who wrote a book
Speaker 2: hating on Scott Morrison. But still this well declared at
Speaker 2: the very end of the article. Most people don't get
Speaker 2: that far if this government is forgettable alb and easiest
Speaker 2: counting on you remembering the last one. So they expect
Speaker 2: you to vote in twenty twenty four or most likely
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, on how you felt in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: despite the fact that if you own a house you
Speaker 2: are twelve times higher when it comes to interest rates
Speaker 2: and how many other indices about bread, milk, fruit, veg.
Speaker 2: White goods compared to two years ago. It is this
Speaker 2: belief at senior levels that the governments are re elected
Speaker 2: not on what they've done, but what they're going to do.
Speaker 2: But when all else fails, and he goes through a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of reasons why p twent Actually they don't
Speaker 2: have the things to run on. What hindsight often overlooks
Speaker 2: is just how dominant the end of the government's first term.
Speaker 1: The memory of the previous government remains.
Speaker 2: This may be one of the reasons governments tend to
Speaker 2: get a second term. Voters haven't forgotten what came before them,
Speaker 2: now remember. According to the pole that turns up in
Speaker 2: the turnabule times in the Freaking Guardian, it says that
Speaker 2: more than fifty percent of the country believes we are
Speaker 2: headed in the wrong direction. All of the poles tell
Speaker 2: us that the Prime Minister's disapproval rating is higher than
Speaker 2: is approval rating.
Speaker 1: So the idea that they.
Speaker 2: Can still run against the ghost of the former government,
Speaker 2: they'll try. Much of the media will help them along
Speaker 2: the way. But if the reality of people's lives are
Speaker 2: are you better off than you were two or three
Speaker 2: years ago? And the answer is hell no, Who knows
Speaker 2: what's going to happen? Yes, the teals most likely aren't
Speaker 2: going anywhere, and that blocks the Liberal Party's.
Speaker 1: Chances of getting to seventy six. But who knows?
Speaker 2: This bloke continues. Peter Dutton has managed to dominate the
Speaker 2: debate for a surprising portion of the past few months,
Speaker 2: but given how large the coalition's recent past still looms,
Speaker 2: there is a more important question to ask with Dunn's
Speaker 2: forays into migration and nuclear both of which are popular
Speaker 2: with more than half of the country. But still has
Speaker 2: he done enough or anything really to convince uters the
Speaker 2: coalition has escaped the past and becomes something appealingly new. So,
Speaker 2: upon the urgings of the bloke who worked for Gillard
Speaker 2: writing in the Channel nine newspapers, the best way for
Speaker 2: this government to get re elected is to do more
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 15: Of the previous coalition government, under the previous.
Speaker 1: Government, under the previous government, the previous government.
Speaker 2: Good luck with it all, right, now, let us get
Speaker 2: to the situation involving police.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I remember when we were in Renmark a few months
Speaker 2: ago for our town. There are a couple of big
Speaker 2: burly blokes who came up to me and talked about
Speaker 2: their experience as former police officers. They had spoken like
Speaker 2: big burly blokes who'd spoken to me Queensland, and big
Speaker 2: burly blokes that had spoken to me in Victoria, and
Speaker 2: the same in New South Wales. We have conversations in
Speaker 2: the past year and all of those states with former
Speaker 2: police officers who talk about what happens once you stop
Speaker 2: being a police officer. Now, this show's pro cop doesn't
Speaker 2: mean everything is sweet and roses.
Speaker 1: No, does it mean nobody ever makes a mistake.
Speaker 2: No, But as a fundamental default position, support police because,
Speaker 2: as you know, they run towards what we would run
Speaker 2: away from. What they deal with on any one day
Speaker 2: would be the worst day of our lives, and they
Speaker 2: do it in twelve hour shifts, day after day after
Speaker 2: day after day. Well, an interesting story is popping up
Speaker 2: out of South Australia where they're starting to talk about
Speaker 2: why are we having trouble holding onto the current number
Speaker 2: of police or being able to get people to replace
Speaker 2: the number of police who are leaving. This is part
Speaker 2: of what they said to the ABC.
Speaker 9: It is a concern and this is something that all
Speaker 9: commissioners around Australia grappling with. We are seeing an increase
Speaker 9: in attrition and of concern is the rate of resignations
Speaker 9: compared to retirements. Historically we probably sat around sixty five
Speaker 9: percent retirement with the remainder being resignations, but that's more
Speaker 9: around fifty to fifty at the moment, which indicates people
Speaker 9: are leaving policing to pursue other career options.
Speaker 2: Australia has had many Royal commissions, but we absolutely need
Speaker 2: one into the collective PTSD, how it is not prevented
Speaker 2: and how it is not dealt with by the emergency
Speaker 2: services in every state. I remember a few years ago
Speaker 2: I just was sitting playing the pokies and this young
Speaker 2: woman was sitting a couple up. We started a chat up.
Speaker 2: It turned out that she had been a paramedic. She
Speaker 2: was a person who was still in her very early thirties,
Speaker 2: but her post traumatic stress because of what she had
Speaker 2: seen in this job and horrible things that I will
Speaker 2: detail for you here, meant that she wasn't able to
Speaker 2: continue doing the job. So it doesn't matter whether it
Speaker 2: is the female paramedic, the burly bloke in South Australia,
Speaker 2: the fiery in Queensland. We do not support the emergency
Speaker 2: services in the fashion that we should, and I believe
Speaker 2: that we must have a royal commission that actually looks
Speaker 2: into how we take care of these people. Because despite
Speaker 2: the fact that the federal government in particular kicked and
Speaker 2: dragged and delayed and will look the other way when
Speaker 2: it comes to the way we do with veterans, the
Speaker 2: state governments need to understand what is happening with their
Speaker 2: own versions of those defense forces, which are our emergency services.
Speaker 2: These people are amazing what they do. The fact that
Speaker 2: when most of them finish, the state is done with them.
Speaker 2: Oh a little pension here or there, but no support,
Speaker 2: no formal support, no mental health support, let alone again
Speaker 2: the scenario with people who have to see horrible things
Speaker 2: on a Monday being told to go back out and
Speaker 2: do them on Monday afternoon, let alone Tuesday morning or
Speaker 2: next Monday. There are huge problems in the police force.
Speaker 2: The focus right now is South Australia. Let's start there.
Speaker 2: Peter malanowskis, do you have the courage to defend the
Speaker 2: people who have more courage than any of us?
Speaker 1: Again, the police commissioner.
Speaker 9: It's certainly a very different job. There's a higher level
Speaker 9: of accountability, more scrutiny, more oversight, more demand.
Speaker 2: Calls in your court opposition. Feel free to mention it too.
Speaker 2: I love when we again do Pomri lives the our
Speaker 2: town shows. I love going into normal Australia. I love
Speaker 2: going at normal times again. One of the places we've
Speaker 2: been beautiful mill Dura. I loved at What a great
Speaker 2: and fun place that was to do I wasn't very
Speaker 2: good at the ber mixing, but we did great things
Speaker 2: and of course we were able to raise a huge
Speaker 2: amount of money for the great people of Humpty Dumpty
Speaker 2: and Mildura Hospital. Well, there is a new tourism campaign
Speaker 2: by my body double Kenny, who is the more favored
Speaker 2: of the huskier, grayish bearded gents, because he is the
Speaker 2: front of a brand new campaign which is trying to
Speaker 2: get people to come to meal Dura, which has been
Speaker 2: referred to as tropical North Victoria, which I think is
Speaker 2: very funny and should be supported, unless, of course you're
Speaker 2: the ABC and you've got to go and find somebody
Speaker 2: who complains about it, and they were able to do so.
Speaker 2: They found a lady called Julie. My daughter lives in
Speaker 2: Tropical North Queens and so I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Been there many many times. It was minus three degrees
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. Here I'm sitting here with
Speaker 2: a heater. I've never got a heater. When I go
Speaker 2: on to my daughter as ever, what was the community input, Julie.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're lovely and I'm sure you're speaking absolutely
Speaker 2: correctly about how cold it can be. It's a joke,
Speaker 2: and it's a funny joke. And that's a good idea
Speaker 2: to tell people that are in Melbourne or other parts
Speaker 2: of Victoria. Don't bother go into the gold he come
Speaker 2: to tropical mill Dura.
Speaker 1: It's a good idea. And dare I say funny?
Speaker 2: Now, remember when Joe Biden told the world that the
Speaker 2: only way he was going to get blasted out of
Speaker 2: the presidency was if God himself sent a message.
Speaker 13: If you can be convinced that you can knock defeat
Speaker 13: Donald Trump while you stand out the terms of the
Speaker 13: Lord or Mighty, comes on something that I might do.
Speaker 1: Two weeks later he was gone.
Speaker 2: Why because Nancy Pelosi knew that he wouldn't win the election. Now,
Speaker 2: of course, this is the party that was going to
Speaker 2: save democracy all the rest of it. But their way
Speaker 2: of avoiding democracy, which was the public was going to
Speaker 2: vote out to the president, was for them to.
Speaker 1: Switch out the president. You know that by now.
Speaker 2: Well, Nancy Pelosi, who of course had been a mini
Speaker 2: Dakhead friend and ally and done plenty of favors for
Speaker 2: Biden as he had for her over the years, did
Speaker 2: an interview on CNN Today where she was asked a
Speaker 2: question about the state of their relationship, which I'm sure
Speaker 2: is not very good. But has this for a bad
Speaker 2: poker face?
Speaker 1: Have you spoken a President Biden since he dropped out? Alhadnah?
Speaker 1: Do you hope to?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: I hope too broad.
Speaker 13: Is everything okay with your relationship?
Speaker 1: You'd have to ask Kim n I hoko. With friends
Speaker 1: like these, I hope to one day, have you spoken
Speaker 1: to him? No?
Speaker 8: Wow?
Speaker 2: These people unbelievable right meantime, as for President Harris, the
Speaker 2: expectation is by the time the suns comes up in Australia,
Speaker 2: but the sun is already up at the America. Right now,
Speaker 2: we will know whom Vice President Harris plans for her
Speaker 2: vice president to be should she end up winning the
Speaker 2: election against Donald Trump. Now come down to apparently two
Speaker 2: main candidates. One is the governor of Pennsylvania. That would
Speaker 2: help because you need Pennsylvania to win the presidency. But
Speaker 2: his small problem is that he fakes a voice to
Speaker 2: sound like BarackObama.
Speaker 8: Somebody willing to say anything to get attention. You deserve
Speaker 8: somebody who knows you. Let me tell you something. He's
Speaker 8: pretty afraid.
Speaker 13: Y'are sees he's backing under the debate.
Speaker 16: Now he's afraid to stand toe to toe with our
Speaker 16: vice president.
Speaker 2: Y'all, it's Pennsylvania, not Oklahoma in the nineteen twenties. The
Speaker 2: other one is the current governor of Minnesota, the one
Speaker 2: who was widely criticized for not calling in the National
Speaker 2: Guard when police stations were overtaken by rioters after the
Speaker 2: death of George Floyd, the.
Speaker 16: Third precinct of the Minneapolis Police Department on fire, nearby
Speaker 16: businesses ablaze.
Speaker 2: And then is of course the global economy and problems
Speaker 2: when it comes to the Middle East, which apparently is
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why one of the two shouldn't
Speaker 2: be being selected, because they want to avoid riots of
Speaker 2: the Democratic Convention. Yes, Harris is leading, but she's not
Speaker 2: able to hide in a bubble forever. Although Joe did
Speaker 2: a good job and he won. Her plan is to
Speaker 2: do the same, but to do a basement to her
Speaker 2: outside with just as many questions being asked, break back
Speaker 2: with more plenty to discuss you in.
Speaker 1: A moment's time. And then Nigel Franst from the UK,
Speaker 1: let's get you.
Speaker 2: So exciting to do the man cave, the man who
Speaker 2: hosts in my absence done other than the great James Morrow.
Speaker 2: You can find him on the US Reporter outside is
Speaker 2: you kicked ars when I was away?
Speaker 5: Mate, a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Who's got a great podcast over it and over and
Speaker 2: we'll be joining him next week.
Speaker 8: Yes, thank you very much, my friend.
Speaker 2: Now, we of course are all unified in our view
Speaker 2: that the Prime Minister is the greatest of all time,
Speaker 2: and that's because of his common touch. And I love
Speaker 2: when he lets us into just a bit of a
Speaker 2: bit of the magic, a bit of a bit of
Speaker 2: the you know, special connection.
Speaker 1: Of course, Albo.
Speaker 2: Decided to record a video call that he had with
Speaker 2: olympianc He released that on Twitter tonight and I just
Speaker 2: feel authenticity when I see this.
Speaker 1: For example, number.
Speaker 17: One breaking from Australia, and you have given so much
Speaker 17: pleasure and excite, been and pride to the whole country.
Speaker 17: So well done to all of you.
Speaker 1: And there was no cringe on this call whatsoever.
Speaker 15: Hey Shane, how are you going? Sew you up there
Speaker 15: proudly with your teammates. It's incredibly inspirational. What's your best
Speaker 15: moment apart from your own sport? Well Well done everyone.
Speaker 2: And no trip to cringe town is complete without.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just secured to metal. So I'm about to fight
Speaker 7: on Thursday to change the color.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Awesome. So yeah, you're you're in the semis.
Speaker 7: I am, yes. So no woman's ever won a boxing
Speaker 7: medalal force. I've secured that. So to the early morning
Speaker 7: for you have to set your alarm.
Speaker 15: Oh look we're been getting up very early.
Speaker 1: Here you can see my little friend here, that's Jane.
Speaker 1: It's the special connection he has. It is, you know,
Speaker 1: so natural.
Speaker 5: And you know it's it's it's it's like these great
Speaker 5: unscripted moments and politics, Like the great unscripted moment in
Speaker 5: politics we had the other day when the Clinton's called
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris her cell phone to her ear and she
Speaker 5: also had the clip on microphone on. It's that level
Speaker 5: of genuineness that shows that the that these politicians on
Speaker 5: the left, you know that for the working people, they're
Speaker 5: of the working people, they are part of the common humanity,
Speaker 5: the common soil. And so, you know, good on the
Speaker 5: Prime Minister for calling our heroes and giving them that
Speaker 5: genuine revelue.
Speaker 2: Have we just got the hater's glasses online? Tell Us,
Speaker 2: tell Us, tell us through the rosies.
Speaker 8: Everything James said completely literally.
Speaker 1: I associated myself with the transcript.
Speaker 16: Is a sports not of course, it was genuine.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he knew all the details. I've been told
Speaker 1: you are going for a mental Harris.
Speaker 16: We think he's mad. Try and get him away from
Speaker 16: a Bunnies game. You can't. When Harris got the phone
Speaker 16: call from the Obamas, she had like she had a.
Speaker 8: Film crew that would putting modern day blockbusters to shave.
Speaker 8: But there's kind of ways, you know, at least the.
Speaker 2: Australian PMS holding his own Teah, they're well done.
Speaker 8: But that's the speed talking about. I thought it was
Speaker 8: very sweet.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Now, today the AZO boss came forward and quite interestingly
Speaker 2: said that MP's have a role to play when it
Speaker 2: comes to the overall lowering of the tone, but also
Speaker 2: calling out of the behaviors that are the beginnings or
Speaker 2: the outright radicalization of people. We saw Azio yesterday. Of course,
Speaker 2: say no fixed address to any ideology that happened to
Speaker 2: be connecting. Now, we do know there are examples of
Speaker 2: things across the spectrum, but there are quite a few
Speaker 2: at the moment. We can talk about literal terrorist attacks
Speaker 2: that have taken place, the planning of those terrorists that
Speaker 2: tax that have taken place. But you know, everyone's got
Speaker 2: a problem here. But what about the political side of this, right,
Speaker 2: because it's pretty obvious that the Labor Party aren't riving
Speaker 2: it up, it's pretty probably pretty obvious that Liberal Party
Speaker 2: aren't riving it up. It's pretty obvious that the grains
Speaker 2: and there's been plenty of reporting that you guys have
Speaker 2: alread and seen and done about how dirty some of
Speaker 2: their hands can be in the facilitating of some of
Speaker 2: the people who go off into the terrible things. Yet
Speaker 2: Labor will still, when faced with the choice, given their preferences.
Speaker 5: Yes, they certainly will. And so you know, I also
Speaker 5: have a bit of a problem with some of this
Speaker 5: talk around dialing down the tone even because to me
Speaker 5: this feels like one of these things where they always
Speaker 5: want to dial it down, but they only want to
Speaker 5: dial down, you know, one of the two sacks.
Speaker 1: They don't want to dial them both down.
Speaker 5: And you know, personally, I think, and you know, I
Speaker 5: want to take a look at like what's happening in
Speaker 5: Britain right now. And what's happening in Britain right now
Speaker 5: is because for it's horrible, but it's also because for
Speaker 5: years and decades. You know, people who have tried to
Speaker 5: talk about certain really unpleasant things that have been going
Speaker 5: on had been squelched and dialed down, and then that
Speaker 5: builds up pressure. So my speech is always the release
Speaker 5: and the way that bad ideas are contested. So on
Speaker 5: some level, you know, it's good on a level when
Speaker 5: we can see, for example, you know, hate preachers speaking
Speaker 5: about things, and we can criticize that, and we can
Speaker 5: call that, be aware of it, because it's much worse
Speaker 5: if we say, hey, we're not going to talk about
Speaker 5: some of the underlying issues there, because that might, you know,
Speaker 5: have people have the wrong ideas about things, and then
Speaker 5: you might have sold.
Speaker 1: So it's all this sort.
Speaker 2: Of again the sort of the nebulous code everything in
Speaker 2: the past couple of days. Right now, they can turn
Speaker 2: around and say, look, here are the ten most recent incidences,
Speaker 2: and these are the ten things that link them together.
Speaker 2: All right now, if six of the ten or four
Speaker 2: of the ten, or one of the ten, then you
Speaker 2: can list those as the overall picture. But again to
Speaker 2: this point about politics. Right now, I understand that mathematically
Speaker 2: the Labor Party does not exist without Green's preferences, But
Speaker 2: how can you simultaneously be raising the terror threat, having
Speaker 2: public information about some about the political party that is
Speaker 2: at the very least facilitating some of the conversations that start.
Speaker 1: To lead people in directions. You're still give them their preferences.
Speaker 16: I think the truth is that in a compulsory preferential
Speaker 16: voting system like the one where you have, inevitably you'll
Speaker 16: be preferencing people who you don't like very much, and
Speaker 16: you will end up receiving preferences from them even though
Speaker 16: you don't like them very much. And that's just how
Speaker 16: it works. And we talk about what's happening in the UK,
Speaker 16: I can guarantee you there will be people who are
Speaker 16: sympathetic with that who will be getting and receiving preferences
Speaker 16: from the National Party or the Liberal Party, and they're
Speaker 16: not going to like it, and they'll hold their nose.
Speaker 16: And it's the same with the Greens. I think the
Speaker 16: PM has actually been really strong on this. I don't
Speaker 16: think i've seen a prime minister. I mean, look, let's
Speaker 16: not forget the horror show of the previous Labor government
Speaker 16: where a deal was actually done with the Greens' government
Speaker 16: saying we want nothing to do with you.
Speaker 8: Will never form a coalition with you.
Speaker 16: He's accused them of basically sort of enabling the sort
Speaker 16: of high temperatures that have inflated this terror threat. I mean,
Speaker 16: that's an incredibly strong thing to say. And I don't
Speaker 16: disagree with him, by the way, because I think when
Speaker 16: you legitimize things like vandalism of war memorials, which one
Speaker 16: of the Greens did, then again you're just opening the door.
Speaker 16: The next question just becomes, all right, well how far
Speaker 16: how far do you go? Is it just property like
Speaker 16: the Suffragettes?
Speaker 8: Is it life? Is it? You know?
Speaker 16: Like, where do you Suddenly you're saying, okay, we approve
Speaker 16: of political violence. It's just just time to talk about
Speaker 16: the line. So I think he has been really strong.
Speaker 16: I think he's personally, I think and know he is
Speaker 16: sick to the back teeth of them hanging around his
Speaker 16: electric office and making staff scared to go in.
Speaker 5: But he let them hang around for six months.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 16: Again, it's like with the City of Union stuff, and look,
Speaker 16: I have absolutely no love for these people.
Speaker 7: They have.
Speaker 1: You call the cops over helps out for a day?
Speaker 1: You happy by I.
Speaker 16: Think if we're talking about free speech before, I think
Speaker 16: it is difficult that they're not actually in the office.
Speaker 8: They're just around it and there, and people obviously do
Speaker 8: not shut the office though, Okay, they shut the office down.
Speaker 16: That's right, because obviously no one wants to walk through again.
Speaker 16: I mean, I've been heckled by the exact same people
Speaker 16: at A Yeah, and they knew who I was as well.
Speaker 1: So let's get to But enough about but the most
Speaker 1: important part of your career.
Speaker 2: I understand Stephen Miles pretending that he's going to be
Speaker 2: able to fix petrol prices by maybe if re elected,
Speaker 2: building twelve petrol. This is about as low rent as
Speaker 2: you can get. It really is. I keep saying, it's
Speaker 2: like Homo Simpson running to be sanitation commissioner. Right, It's
Speaker 2: just we promised to do everything. Does anyone believe this stuff?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, pul we were sitting downstairs before that.
Speaker 5: Stephen Miles feels like a gambler who's lost everything in
Speaker 5: their chuck at the car key is taking off the
Speaker 5: jewelry and throwing the watch out there. They're spinning every
Speaker 5: last spin, hoping for that big because I.
Speaker 15: Got a chance.
Speaker 5: Two is the Stephen Miles Soviet here where you know Cobrad.
Speaker 5: We will have Steven the petrel bowsers will be very cheap.
Speaker 5: I think though, this is part of the greed, you know,
Speaker 5: lefty plan to get everybody into electric vehicles by destroying
Speaker 5: the entire.
Speaker 1: Patrol station infrastructure.
Speaker 5: Joe. And then and then then there was like, well
Speaker 5: we got to buy ITV now because Stephen Byles screwed
Speaker 5: it all up.
Speaker 16: You should have been building state run EV charging stations.
Speaker 2: Well what about it that properly runs state owned hospitals
Speaker 2: in terms of priorities, but only for us?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 2: It just smells in every way about about how desperate
Speaker 2: things happen to be.
Speaker 1: I've got a minute here.
Speaker 2: We'll find out in the next little while about whom
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris chooses as vice president. Let's get a prediction
Speaker 2: so we can prove that one of you is wrong.
Speaker 2: Is it going to be the governor of Minnesota or
Speaker 2: the governor of Pennsylvania?
Speaker 1: James Minnesota, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: So the interesting thing there is that he opens the
Speaker 2: door to the George Flyer George Floyd Wright's response, or
Speaker 2: it opens to the lunatics turning up because they don't
Speaker 2: like that he is pro Israel.
Speaker 8: Bring the lunatics is Jewish.
Speaker 16: But yes, apparently there is a test where you can
Speaker 16: find out how many edits have been made to the
Speaker 16: Wikipedia pages of vice presidential candidates. And jd Vance has
Speaker 16: shot up just before Trump announced him and Shapiro have
Speaker 16: shot up.
Speaker 2: So you're on the yep all right, and you're ignoring
Speaker 2: fedam and interesting to say thank you lads when of'
Speaker 2: youll been right or wrong? We'll find out with the
Speaker 2: US report on Friday, and of course Joe every other
Speaker 2: time here piece on sits Sky News Quick break back
Speaker 2: with more plenty to talk about. Nigel Farrage. What's going
Speaker 2: on in the UK?
Speaker 1: One a sec. Nigel Farrag needs no introductions and.
Speaker 2: Mainly the United Kingdom of course, the leader of the
Speaker 2: Reform Party and a parliamentarian now of course after the
Speaker 2: most recent UK election, Nigel, love you to see you also,
Speaker 2: good to see you back on gbing News as well.
Speaker 1: But I've got to ask you.
Speaker 2: One of the things that you reiterated at almost every
Speaker 2: rally when you were in the lead up to the
Speaker 2: election was that you had perched political parties of the
Speaker 2: of the far right, that you had gone hard against
Speaker 2: all of these people. Yet amazingly and unsurprisingly the very
Speaker 2: despite your your proven trek record of doing that, the
Speaker 2: media is trying to pull you into the worst elements
Speaker 2: of what we've been seeing in the past few days.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's been despicable.
Speaker 18: I mean broadcast as saying these are Farag's riots, prominent
Speaker 18: labor politicians. This is what Nigel Faraj wanted. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 18: as if somehow I'm responsible, some even suggesting that I'm
Speaker 18: orchestrating the riots. I've spent thirty years fighting elections, believing
Speaker 18: that is the way to solve problems in society, not
Speaker 18: to resort to violence. I've never gone anywhere near I
Speaker 18: wouldn't touch with a barge. Poll members of the extreme
Speaker 18: right who say very provocative things, like Tommy Robinson or
Speaker 18: the others. The reason they hate me, the reason they're
Speaker 18: blaming me is twofold. The first is the Labor Party
Speaker 18: are terrified that many of their own voters will vote
Speaker 18: for me, because when kir Starmer, our Prime Minister, says
Speaker 18: everything that's happening is the fault of the far right. Well, yes,
Speaker 18: of course there are some far right thugs behaving appallingly,
Speaker 18: but actually, when it comes to being concerned about mass immigration,
Speaker 18: when it comes to being concerned about societal breakdown, when
Speaker 18: it comes to being worried that many of our towns
Speaker 18: and cities are no longer recognizable as even being English.
Speaker 18: If you use that term far right, you're using it
Speaker 18: against your own voters and a majority of the population.
Speaker 18: That's the first reason they're attacking me. They're scared of
Speaker 18: me politically. The second reason is I was right. I
Speaker 18: said last Wednesday that unless we cleared up some of
Speaker 18: the conspiracy theories on social media by telling us the
Speaker 18: truth about who this young man was that stabbed to
Speaker 18: death those three little girls at that Taylor Swift party,
Speaker 18: unless we sourted it out that I said, I felt
Speaker 18: the country was on the verge of revolt. Well, we
Speaker 18: didn't clear up the mass and we have had a revolt.
Speaker 18: So they secondly hate me because I was right.
Speaker 2: What I find so dishonest by those who again seek
Speaker 2: to tar the people that have spoken about a very
Speaker 2: obvious issue right so say, illegal border crossings right now,
Speaker 2: very obviously you can have an absolute passionate view on
Speaker 2: that issue. That does not mean that you endorse somebody
Speaker 2: breaking into the places where some of those people who
Speaker 2: are legally into the.
Speaker 1: Country end up.
Speaker 2: This is what I find again, the maliciousness in and
Speaker 2: around this. I mean, we can sit here for the
Speaker 2: next eight minutes doing what I know you've done on
Speaker 2: your show in the UK and what we've done here,
Speaker 2: which is the riots are despicable. They are not acceptable.
Speaker 2: Everyone who involved in the violence must be held to
Speaker 2: account just like anyone else who does it. But that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you can't have the view about does a
Speaker 2: country have a border and are you allowed to police it?
Speaker 18: Well, that's right, And one of the fears here, you know,
Speaker 18: by Starmer saying we're going to crack down on the
Speaker 18: far right, We're going to use video imaging, one of
Speaker 18: the worries is that they actually try to suppress that
Speaker 18: debate even further whilst effectively turning a blind eye to
Speaker 18: marauding gangs of masked Muslim young men walking around some
Speaker 18: of our cities in a very intimidatory way. Don't misunderstand me,
Speaker 18: most of the thuggery has been young white males setting
Speaker 18: far out of things and behaving terribly. But it's not
Speaker 18: as if it's just one side that's fault with all
Speaker 18: of this. Now, I really worry that Starmer may use
Speaker 18: this to try and suppressed eight, to suppress free speech,
Speaker 18: to make it even harder to talk about these issues.
Speaker 18: And no one's spoken out more pool than me about
Speaker 18: the cross Channel migrants. The young men, undocumented young males
Speaker 18: who isis themselves have said they'll put their operatives into
Speaker 18: our country through this route. And yet what I was
Speaker 18: out there three years ago in the Channel and there
Speaker 18: were two young men that capsized from a dinghy, you
Speaker 18: know there I was physically putting them out of the
Speaker 18: English Channel. And the fact you think something's wrong doesn't
Speaker 18: mean you're a subhuman percent Let's.
Speaker 2: Talk quickly about the economies of the world that have
Speaker 2: all had a jiner in the past couple of days.
Speaker 2: In is what an absolute reminder about what is the
Speaker 2: choice before the American public? Here where Kamala Harris, who
Speaker 2: just would sell it to her way through an explanation
Speaker 2: of inflation, would have no idea what leave it a pool?
Speaker 18: No, And of course what we're learning is that the
Speaker 18: Americans have been ever so slightly playing games with the
Speaker 18: economic figures as this election approaches, and as the truth
Speaker 18: got out towards the end of last week that the
Speaker 18: American economy is slowing that the Fed have not reduced
Speaker 18: interest rates as quickly as they ought to. We've seen
Speaker 18: some precipitous downward moves on stock markets, Japan of course
Speaker 18: being perhaps the biggest example. But I think we're now
Speaker 18: entering a period of economic reality. We're living way beyond
Speaker 18: our means. Debt is much much worse at a governmental,
Speaker 18: corporate and individual level than it was back in two
Speaker 18: thousand and eight. Growth in most countries is anemic. Growth
Speaker 18: even in America is not quite as good as people
Speaker 18: thought it was. And whilst I'm not on your show
Speaker 18: to make stock market predictions, I think we're in for
Speaker 18: a very very bumpy autumn on the stock exchanges as
Speaker 18: this reality begins to bite.
Speaker 2: And depending on the choices that are made in the
Speaker 2: next little while about whom that VP is, well, a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff is going to happen in Chicago.
Speaker 2: Let alone, the court process revving up again against Trump
Speaker 2: will be fascinating to watch. Thankfully, we get to talk
Speaker 2: to you and see you on JB News. Thank you, Nigel,
Speaker 2: appreciate it. That's our shaffa and I will see you
Speaker 2: again tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Here's the late debate