WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 21 January

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<v Speaker 1>From the sky in Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Sherry Would of the man K.

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<v Speaker 2>Breaking news is that we have some result out of

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<v Speaker 2>National Cabinet which has met in the past few hours

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss what to do with the situation involving antisemitism

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<v Speaker 2>and the antisemitism attacks that have now resulted in, as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the firebombing of a childcare center. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that the meeting was convened well the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of four hours ago.

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<v Speaker 2>They spoke for a significant amount of time, but the

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<v Speaker 2>results are not impressive. The Prime Minister has released the

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<v Speaker 2>following statement that all that has come of today's National

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<v Speaker 2>Cabinet meeting is leaders agreed today to establish a national

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<v Speaker 2>database to track anti Semitic crime and antisemitic incidents and behaviors.

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<v Speaker 2>The Commonwealth will work with state and territories to develop

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<v Speaker 2>the database. The purpose of one national apporting system is

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<v Speaker 2>to better inform and coordinate responses to anti Semitic incidents.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw Chris Mins in an excellent invidew with Sharry

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<v Speaker 2>Markson speaking about hate laws and how hate laws in

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<v Speaker 2>Western Australia should form the model of what will be

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<v Speaker 2>brought into place in New South Wales. Where is the

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<v Speaker 2>discussion of such legislation in that National Cabinet meeting which

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<v Speaker 2>took place today. Literally here it is one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 2>four pages from the Prime Minister. Literally the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>convened today to address the shocking anti Semitic crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Pad pad pad pad pad pad.

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<v Speaker 2>They unequivocally condemn anti Semitism and reaffirm to stamp it

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<v Speaker 2>out in Australia. Pad pad pad with old announcements. It's

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<v Speaker 2>also a collection of data that's come from press releases

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<v Speaker 2>from state police agencies in the past few months.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>No one is going to be able to solve the

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<v Speaker 2>scourge of anti Semitism in one afternoon. But the idea

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<v Speaker 2>that a Prime Minister who's been drag kicking and screaming

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<v Speaker 2>to the meeting that he has had this afternoon with

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<v Speaker 2>all of the people in charge of all of the

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<v Speaker 2>police forces in all of the states, that the best

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<v Speaker 2>that they can come up with is let's get a

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<v Speaker 2>whiteboard and keep score of what's going on. I'll have

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<v Speaker 2>more to say about it a little bit later, but

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<v Speaker 2>that is the breaking news which is coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>Canberra as we speak. More from the Prime Minister no

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<v Speaker 2>doubt about this tomorrow, but of course the focus for us,

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<v Speaker 2>and why.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't it be.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been on the journey the whole way, from the

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<v Speaker 2>Golden Escalator all the way through to meeting a president,

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<v Speaker 2>the exile of twenty twenty, the return to the political

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<v Speaker 2>arena in twenty twenty two, and the triumphant victory in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four. Yeah, I'm going to talk about Trump tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>but like most shows, we always try to find a

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<v Speaker 2>different way of doing it, and we'll have a better

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<v Speaker 2>and longer conversation with Analyse Nilsen, because I want to

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<v Speaker 2>start to look forward as well as look back as

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<v Speaker 2>to what has happened in the past twenty four hours. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister was absolutely blown away today by Chris Mins.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Mins didn a phenomenal job and to see the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister of Australia reduced to a nodding head at

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else's press conference tells you everything about how diminish

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister has become. And a bit more information

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<v Speaker 2>about cricket and Australia Day, including some new polling which

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<v Speaker 2>tells us just exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Whom are the people who would like to change the date. Surprise, surprise, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not a majority of people, But how can I

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<v Speaker 2>not take a moment? And I know I've heard about

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<v Speaker 2>it all day, but please forgive me for having my say.

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<v Speaker 2>Today was an extraordinary day for those of us that

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<v Speaker 2>have followed the story of Donald Trump and care about

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<v Speaker 2>the future of the United States. Put simply, today can

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<v Speaker 2>be described in a series of images.

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<v Speaker 1>Out with the old as.

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<v Speaker 2>Biden was packed out the back door, and in with

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<v Speaker 2>the new, as a new president was sworn in. The

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<v Speaker 2>day started in a church, It ended in a spectacular

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<v Speaker 2>series of ballroom dancers. It was a day of endless ceremony,

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<v Speaker 2>something that America is unique in its ability to mesh

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<v Speaker 2>many parts of its culture with its politics. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the Brits do things beautifully for the Royals, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are plenty of places in other parts of the world

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<v Speaker 2>that do a good ceremony. But when America turns it on, unsurprisingly,

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<v Speaker 2>they always turn it up to eleven. Which is why

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<v Speaker 2>I loved that the speech that Donald Trump delivered in

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<v Speaker 2>the early hours of this morning Australian time, bang on

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<v Speaker 2>midday in Washington, d C. It annoyed all the right people.

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<v Speaker 2>He stood right in front of the person who wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be president and the current president and just verbally

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<v Speaker 2>smacked them about the room. Put simply their behavior, their

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<v Speaker 2>actions over the past four years gave a rebirth to

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump and created the very moment that they had

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<v Speaker 2>to sit through today. The speech that was watched by

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<v Speaker 2>the powerful, be they financial and business tycoons or the

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<v Speaker 2>people who have had their turn at leading the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>But more importantly, it was cheered on by millions of

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<v Speaker 2>people who never gave up, people who took to heart

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<v Speaker 2>fight fight fight when when win and they had their

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<v Speaker 2>moment to savor today. These people have lost friends, jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>all the things that have come with supporting Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>but today was their day. And as always on momentous

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<v Speaker 2>occasions or elections, I always try to circle in on

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<v Speaker 2>to five things, five things to remember, five things that

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<v Speaker 2>we've learned, five things that stood out to me. And

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<v Speaker 2>again some of these will be different than what you

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<v Speaker 2>have heard all day long.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the biggest story in the world. Why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>we give it the coverage that we have both live,

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<v Speaker 1>which started this morning at three o'clock. I was thankful

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<v Speaker 1>to be there with Pete and then Laura for a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of the morning and of course into primetime

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<v Speaker 1>here on Sky News. But five things that we learned

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<v Speaker 1>about upon Trump's return to power. His speech was fierce

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<v Speaker 1>and it was fearless.

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<v Speaker 2>After being sworn in, every president has the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>frame with soaring rhetoric or straight talk, their sense of

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<v Speaker 2>where the country is and where they want the country

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<v Speaker 2>to go. For the soaring rhetoric part, the bit for

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<v Speaker 2>the history books, the grab that is played in the

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<v Speaker 2>montages for years to come. This was Trump's effort.

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<v Speaker 3>The golden age of America begins right now. From their

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<v Speaker 3>stay forward, our country will flourish and be respected again

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<v Speaker 3>all over the world. We will be the envy of

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<v Speaker 3>every nation, and we will not allow ourselves to be

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<v Speaker 3>taken advantage of any longer. During every single day of

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<v Speaker 3>the Trump administration, I will very simply put America first.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned the part of the speech where he was

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<v Speaker 2>just verbally giving it to the people who tried to

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<v Speaker 2>put him in jail, who tried to scandalize him, who

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<v Speaker 2>effectively defeated him four years ago. But because of the

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<v Speaker 2>decisions that they made, chiefly and most importantly dismantling a

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<v Speaker 2>border protection system that Trump had established that worked, that

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<v Speaker 2>resulted in open borders that they pretended weren't open, where

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<v Speaker 2>the person in the vice presidency had responsibility for the

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<v Speaker 2>root causes. She became the borders are but then they

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<v Speaker 2>told us that wasn't her title, and millions of people

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<v Speaker 2>entered the United States illegally. And the United States, like

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<v Speaker 2>Australia and any other great country around the world, is

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<v Speaker 2>built on immigration. We need people to come from all

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<v Speaker 2>over the world to commit to the future and the

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<v Speaker 2>prosperity and the blank pages of history yet to be

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<v Speaker 2>written by our great countries. But what makes a country

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<v Speaker 2>a country is a border. A border that is defended.

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<v Speaker 2>A border that can be defended, yes, by your army,

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<v Speaker 2>your navy, and your air force, but it must be

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<v Speaker 2>defended by making sure that the people who cross into

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<v Speaker 2>that border are people who have raised the tests for

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<v Speaker 2>citizenship or will come and go as visitors to your country.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything else means you don't have a country. And while

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<v Speaker 2>there may be a small sliver of people who may

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<v Speaker 2>meet in everywhere from Davos to a beatnik club in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen sixties who don't think that countries should have borders,

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<v Speaker 2>we all demand that those borders are defended. The failure

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<v Speaker 2>to do so by Biden and Harris in part was

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<v Speaker 2>a stirring reason while the American peace people who had

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<v Speaker 2>rejected him four years earlier went back into his embrace

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<v Speaker 2>and rather than tell stories after the event of what

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<v Speaker 2>you wish you could have said, or what you might

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<v Speaker 2>have said in private, Donald Trump did it for the

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<v Speaker 2>world to see, and it was magnificent.

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<v Speaker 3>We now have a government that cannot manage even a

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<v Speaker 3>simple crisis at home, while at the same time stumbling

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<v Speaker 3>into a continuing catalog of catastrophic events abroad. We have

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<v Speaker 3>a government that has given unlimited funding to the defense

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<v Speaker 3>of foreign borders, but refuses to defend American borders or

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<v Speaker 3>more importantly, its own people. By recent election, has a

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<v Speaker 3>mandate to completely and totally reverse a horrible betrayal and

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<v Speaker 3>all of these many betrayals that have taken place, and

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<v Speaker 3>to give the people back their faith, their wealth, their democracy,

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<v Speaker 3>and indeed their freedom. From this moment on, America's decline

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<v Speaker 3>is over now.

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<v Speaker 2>It is depending where you were watching and what you

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<v Speaker 2>were watching. But some of the TV pictures were wide

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<v Speaker 2>enough to see the discomfort, the obvious discomfort of Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>who you could tell was half wanting to roll his

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<v Speaker 2>eyes and half wanting to heckel and Kamala Harris, who

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<v Speaker 2>of course dreamt that this would be her day, was

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<v Speaker 2>grinding her teeth as hard as you could possibly imagine

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<v Speaker 2>while trying to pretend that she wasn't showing it. But

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<v Speaker 2>the message that Trump delivered was not just too the

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<v Speaker 2>current administration, but it was to the living presidents in

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<v Speaker 2>the room. The living presidents who presided over an explosion

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<v Speaker 2>in government spending under Obama, the Forever Wars under George W. Bush,

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<v Speaker 2>and the trade deals that resulted in better deals for

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<v Speaker 2>countries other than the United States Bill Clinton. They too,

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<v Speaker 2>were just as uncomfortable as they should be. Trump will be,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt criticized for not following the usual path here

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<v Speaker 2>of saving such things for a private dinner, but Trump

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't do it that way. Whether you like or don't

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<v Speaker 2>like Trump, you have to admire a person who is

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<v Speaker 2>willing to be that direct. It doesn't mean that they're

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<v Speaker 2>automatically right. I happen to believe that he is, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would prefer that sort of transparency and directness rather

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<v Speaker 2>than people spilling their true thoughts in a book years

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<v Speaker 2>after they no longer have any consequence or are not

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<v Speaker 2>in a position to actually change people's lives. Which brings

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<v Speaker 2>me to the second thing that we learned about on

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's return to office today, as forty five became forty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>voters wanted change and they got change today. From the

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<v Speaker 2>moment it was clear that he was going to not

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<v Speaker 2>just win the swing States, not just win the electoral College,

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<v Speaker 2>but eventually win the popular vote, there is an absolute

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<v Speaker 2>and clear mandate that the country was headed in the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong direction. We knew it in polls, we knew it

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<v Speaker 2>in our guts, But the result of that election couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been clearer. The country had gone too far down

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong track, which is why it elected Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>in the fashion in which it did. And one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that a president can do on day one is to

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<v Speaker 2>sign a series of executive orders. Now these do not

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<v Speaker 2>work as laws, but they work as directions to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in the federal government, from the person who will see

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<v Speaker 2>you a stamp in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Post office, all the way through to the High.

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<v Speaker 2>Command of the Pentagon, from the Education Department to the

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<v Speaker 2>Transportation Department, the health sector, environment, and today Trump chose change,

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<v Speaker 2>not one little change, but many many changes, order after

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<v Speaker 2>order after order after order, stretching from controversial pardons of

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<v Speaker 2>people involved in January the sixth all the way through

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<v Speaker 2>to common sense about gender. And he wanted everyone to see,

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<v Speaker 2>you hired me to change things. Let's change things.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a big one. That's a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big one. Posessions, Oh, that's a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big one. I love it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Not behind closed doors with somebody pushing a press release

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<v Speaker 2>out at five minutes to midnight, Bring the cameras in,

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<v Speaker 2>bring the world in. And amazingly as he was doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>and think about this as a comparison to the man

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<v Speaker 2>who much, if not all, of the US media was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to tell us was the smartest and greatest president

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<v Speaker 2>at the absolute height of his intellectual powers, when we

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<v Speaker 2>knew Joe Biden was crumbling from before he took on

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<v Speaker 2>the presidency, let alone when he fell up the stairs

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<v Speaker 2>in his first year, or fell asleep at conferences, or

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<v Speaker 2>completely collapsed before.

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<v Speaker 1>Our very own eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>At that election debate, Joe Biden barely spoke to the media.

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<v Speaker 2>He barely led in the reporters to ask whatever questions

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<v Speaker 2>they want and answer them as if he was playing

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<v Speaker 2>a game of tennis. Well, like any player who's currently

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<v Speaker 2>doing phenomenal things in Melbourne, Donald Trump wasn't just playing

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<v Speaker 2>tennis with the reporters. He was playing it with both hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Full pardon.

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<v Speaker 3>We have about sex commutations and there.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you think about ordering US special forces into the.

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico to take them out? Could happen?

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<v Speaker 5>What's going to be your priority or foreign policy?

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be to keep America safe.

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<v Speaker 6>How do you plan to end the crane worn Well,

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<v Speaker 6>we're going.

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<v Speaker 3>To try and get it done as correctly as place.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I love this rock and roll Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Four eight years ago, people referred to this as chaos

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<v Speaker 2>because it was the first time that a modern American

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<v Speaker 2>president had done multiple things in one day. You see

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<v Speaker 2>the way that things are supposed to work, the way

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<v Speaker 2>they've always worked, The way that people have come to

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<v Speaker 2>expect the communication to come from the most powerful office

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, is that it's one thing a day,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's one message a week, because the dear people

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<v Speaker 2>only need to be fed every now and then to

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<v Speaker 2>be reminded that there is someone in charge of their country.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump runs at a break neck pace. He is a

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<v Speaker 2>bull in a china shop, and that does mean that

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<v Speaker 2>things get broken. And eight years ago there were plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of things that seemed like in the early days they

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<v Speaker 2>were being broken. But it feels like in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five things are being targeted to be broken up, reformed,

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<v Speaker 2>and to use the lefty term, built back better. Anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who knows and loves the United States knows that it

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<v Speaker 2>is a wonderful, incredible country. But it is one with

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<v Speaker 2>incredible flaws. And one of its flaws is the distance

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<v Speaker 2>between its citizens and the people in charge now, Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>and every decision that he will make may well please

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<v Speaker 2>or displease plenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Of people, But what they asked for was change, and

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<v Speaker 1>by goodness, did they get it. Today.

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<v Speaker 2>Number three Biden proved exactly why Trump is back in office.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go in the way back machine to when it

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<v Speaker 2>was Joe Biden's moment to assume the presidency. This was

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<v Speaker 2>what he said about his plan for the country, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is what he said about the concept of giving

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<v Speaker 2>people in your own family a magical get out of

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<v Speaker 2>jail free.

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<v Speaker 5>Cod uniting our people, uniting in our nation, uniting to

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<v Speaker 5>fight the foes.

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<v Speaker 1>We face with unity.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's it concerns me in terms of what kind

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<v Speaker 5>of precedence sets and how the rest of the world

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<v Speaker 5>looks at us as a nation of laws and injustice.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not going to see an our administration that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of approach to pardons.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I say on the internet as you scroll

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<v Speaker 2>light at night, this is how it started, this is

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<v Speaker 2>how it ends.

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<v Speaker 5>The only garbage I see floating down there is his.

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<v Speaker 7>Supporters major breaking news coming from now former President Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 7>He has issued pardons for multiple members of his family,

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<v Speaker 7>his siblings and their respective spouses. And I just want

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<v Speaker 7>to read for everyone a part of the president's statement,

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<v Speaker 7>the former president's statement explaining why he just to take

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<v Speaker 7>really this extraordinary move.

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<v Speaker 2>And unbelievably many of these pardons extend to the members

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<v Speaker 2>of his family whom we know to be part of

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<v Speaker 2>the pay portrayal of peddling influence, which is why the

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<v Speaker 2>pardons are not for the past twelve months or for

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<v Speaker 2>the past two years. Some of these pardons go all

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<v Speaker 2>the way back to when he was the vice president

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States, all the way back to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and fourteen, when Hunter was being paid millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for a job that he was clearly not qualified for,

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<v Speaker 2>and his brother James was involved in the operation that business.

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<v Speaker 1>Partners said had a cut for the big guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, Biden has yet again proven why Trump is back

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<v Speaker 2>in the Oval office and he is hitting the bricks.

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<v Speaker 3>President Baden, who would going to Piden and his whole

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<v Speaker 3>family because that makes him look very guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have pardon my family. I could have pardoned

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<v Speaker 1>myself my family.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, if I do that, it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>make me look very guilt out, or they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be sitting here.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankly.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourth thing, establishment media in the United States has learnt nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing since the election. Now, as I said on the

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<v Speaker 2>rooftop in Washington back in November.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the result was a rejection of the media

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<v Speaker 1>that had scandalized anything to do with Donald Trump in

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<v Speaker 1>the four years when he was not president. And in

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<v Speaker 1>my view, many of the people who ended up voting

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<v Speaker 1>for Trump, well, they don't engage with this media anymore

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<v Speaker 1>now that at times can have all sorts of consequences

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<v Speaker 1>for a democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>But they ruined their reputation. They cried wolf too many times.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you would have thought after an election that

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<v Speaker 2>they would at least balance up some of their panels. Instead, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all a collection of people from the same media

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<v Speaker 2>organizations who called him Hitler, pushing the same stories that

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<v Speaker 2>the world was going to end should he become elected,

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<v Speaker 2>all pushing the stories there was no chance he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to win because the poles were so tired. The

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<v Speaker 2>poles were so tired. They haven't balanced those people up.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have people who represent the benefit of the

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<v Speaker 2>doubt position for Donald Trump, let alone the full Maga advocacy. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all the same people who were wrong eight years

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<v Speaker 2>ago were wrong four months ago, all bringing in the

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<v Speaker 2>same token representatives of the Trump world to war wave

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<v Speaker 2>their fingers and snarl. Just some of the nonsense that

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<v Speaker 2>has been running today in the American media, including garbage

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<v Speaker 2>on the people who are barely coping with the election result,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone the reality of Trump returning.

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<v Speaker 1>To the presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are pretending that rather than the weather that the experts,

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<v Speaker 2>the science told us was going to be the worst

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<v Speaker 2>in forty years, and that was the decision why everything

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<v Speaker 2>decided to go inside. Now they want the lefty Jiti

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<v Speaker 2>mind trick for you to completely forget what the weather

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<v Speaker 2>guy was telling us about what was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>happening in Washington today and get ready for this as

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<v Speaker 2>the first hoax of the new Trump era.

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<v Speaker 8>The obsession of Trump's rhetoric is always a theme of

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<v Speaker 8>national decline and national humiliation. It's a little like a

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<v Speaker 8>cult leader who keeps predicting different days for the end

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<v Speaker 8>of the world.

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<v Speaker 9>Quote as Trump disparate as migrants as criminals and outlines

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<v Speaker 9>as plans, They're not just million There are not millions

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<v Speaker 9>and millions of criminal aliens as he claims. Today, a

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<v Speaker 9>largely white crowd is applied in the rotunda.

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<v Speaker 1>Chief amongst them Joey Reid from MSNBC. Listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>garbage for wine.

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<v Speaker 10>It was indoors, presumably because of the weather, though I

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<v Speaker 10>should know that today's chili conditions were similar to those

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<v Speaker 10>at President Obama's first and outdoors inauguration in two thousand

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<v Speaker 10>and nine, calling many to speculate that the move indoors

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<v Speaker 10>had more to do with concerns that Trump couldn't draw

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<v Speaker 10>a sufficiently large crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>What seriously, there weren't even fifty thousand protesters who turned up.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight years ago. It was allegedly immediate I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty sure that if things were held as they were

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<v Speaker 2>planned to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Held, that there would have been probably a bigger crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not dare predict the exact number, but a

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<v Speaker 2>way bigger crowd than twenty sixteen, because people will proudly

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<v Speaker 2>wear a mega hat now and it barely gets a hiss.

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<v Speaker 2>Not because every person in America agrees, but because the

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<v Speaker 2>country was headed in the wrong direction, and the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of people in the states that out of the most

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<v Speaker 2>and in fact overall, the majority of people who voted

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<v Speaker 2>in the election in November agreed. Anyone suggesting, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no way they would have turned up to mark the

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<v Speaker 2>occasion is living in a fantasy land, a fantasy land

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<v Speaker 2>where they will gladly profit. But enjoy your time coping,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're going to be coping day after day after day.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was this garbage over on CNN. Elon

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<v Speaker 2>Musk gave a speech inside the center where the parade

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<v Speaker 2>took place. Oh, but is that a Nazi salute that

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<v Speaker 2>he just did?

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<v Speaker 11>You saw him come out with that odd looking salute. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>it was odd looking. We're going to show a screen

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<v Speaker 11>grab of it. And as he said to him, the

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<v Speaker 11>future of civilization is assured now that Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Won, so.

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<v Speaker 2>They can run it without the sound or you may

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<v Speaker 2>will have seen a picture, but here's what actually happened

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<v Speaker 2>in real time, and they were in the room to

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<v Speaker 2>see it.

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<v Speaker 4>My heart goes out here. It is thanks to you

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<v Speaker 4>that the future of civilization is a shirt.

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<v Speaker 10>Thanks to you, we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna have safe cities, finally, safe cities, secure borders, sensible spending,

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<v Speaker 4>basic stuff, and we're going to take Dosee to Mars.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about his heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the still frame meant we can get back into

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is terrible. They're all Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally the fifth one, Baron Trump's a boss six

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<v Speaker 1>foot nine in the old language or bloody tall in Bogan.

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<v Speaker 1>How good does this bloke go? He's obviously just off

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<v Speaker 1>at university right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember he was ten when Trump became president for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. I love that he was rolling his eyes

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<v Speaker 2>at some of the stuff that was going on today,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly with Elon Musk cheering, but he owned every moment

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 2>when his name was called out. He's loving it. And

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<v Speaker 2>does anyone see a third Trump term sometime in the future,

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe it's barn I just took that suggestion in

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<v Speaker 2>to annoy the same people who didn't actually look at

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<v Speaker 2>the footage of what happened in America today. And again

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<v Speaker 2>back to that Elon Musk situation, you get the feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that Baron probably is spending too much time around Elon,

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<v Speaker 2>or Elon is spending too much time around Donald because

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't hide when he was yelling in the Donald's moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that kid. Huge future ahead, all right, we'll talk.

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<v Speaker 2>To Anealise Nelson in a few minutes time about the

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<v Speaker 2>forward looking here, we all know what happened today, what

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<v Speaker 2>is into the future, and what is different about America

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<v Speaker 2>in Trump's second and final term as president of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. But first let me turn our attention to

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister and what I opened the show with

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<v Speaker 2>convence National Cabinet months after it was first suggested, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>more than a year after it was first suggested by

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton to deal with the anti Semitic attacks, the

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<v Speaker 2>latest of which was this fire bombing of the daycare

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<v Speaker 2>center in the eastern suburbs of Sydney. Now, bizarrely, when

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<v Speaker 2>all of this was playing out on breakfast television this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was sitting next to Pete Stefanovic. We saw

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<v Speaker 2>some footage coming in that the Prime Minister was turning up. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister is always welcome to go wherever he

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<v Speaker 2>wishes at any one time, but it was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit odd that the Prime Minister was there well as

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<v Speaker 2>the fieries were this morning.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I'm here to see firsthand what is clearly a

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<v Speaker 12>despicable crime.

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<v Speaker 10>It's to.

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<v Speaker 12>Talk with the local community as well with premium mints.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you think I am a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, I know there's not a Goldilocks thing here

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<v Speaker 2>where if you come to early or you wait too late.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's the exact moment for a prome minius uel

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<v Speaker 2>or visit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would suggest within a couple of hours of

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<v Speaker 1>this it felt a little bit early, but presumably he

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<v Speaker 1>was close enough either at home in Marrickville, but remember

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>at home in Sydney's careabillity, So he's got across the bridge,

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<v Speaker 1>go across all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And basically he was reacting to what he was seeing

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<v Speaker 2>on TV at the time and the fact that it

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 2>involved a childcare center. Men that we now know that

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>we're hitting a new level with all of this. But again,

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 2>national cabinet. It meets today, it meets for hours, and

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 2>all it comes up with is let's have a database.

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's just keep score of what's going on.

0:27:57.960 --> 0:27:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember he might want to own that this was what

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to do, but he was dragkicking and screaming.

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Dunton first suggested this in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 12>What we want and what people want to see isn't

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 12>more meetings. They want action and what people want to

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 12>see isn't more meetings. So I want to see more action.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was this weird moment where the Prime

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Minister decided to do a press conference with the Premier

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 2>of New South Wales and the Premier of New South

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Wales in political terms, in performance terms, blew the Prime

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Minister off the park.

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<v Speaker 6>It breaks your heart that we have animals in our

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 6>city that are prepared to burn down a childcare center

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 6>to make this point. It is completely disgusting and these

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 6>bastards will be round up by New South Wales police.

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Compare the pair who looks like the leader of the

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>country and who just looks like the passenger at that press.

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 12>Conference this morning, As Chris has said, I spoke with

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 12>him with Rabbi Goldstein. He said to me words that

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 12>will stick with me. He said, peace, light and love.

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 12>That's what Australia is about, and indeed that is what

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 12>people of faith are about as well spreading that harmony.

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 2>The problem for the Prime Minister is passion. Now you

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>cannot fake it. You either believe it or you don't.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>You either think that the country is starting to day

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>by day, event by event, go further and further down

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 2>the wrong track, or you are responding to what you

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>think is a concern in the community that you don't share.

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Judge them not just on what they say, but what

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>they do. And in the case the Prime Minister today, eventually,

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>when he had every important person in Australian government in

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 2>the same room, he turns around and makes a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>To establish a database.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of keeping school, there is a horrible score which

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 2>is playing out in the schools of Australia. You know

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I care because I've got two little ones in primary school.

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 2>But I know you care because it's the future of

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 2>the country. Particularly in Victoria. Today, the Herald Sign had

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 2>incredible data that ninety thousand students have been suspended in

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Victorian schools in the pre COVID year all the way

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>to twenty twenty three. The documents which were obtained by

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>the Herald Sun and the freedom of information laws revealed

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 2>the true extent of student suspensions. At two hundred and

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 2>fifty schools, eighty seven thy twenty one, eighty seven students

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 2>are suspended each and every day. This is up by

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 2>thirty three zero percent since twenty nineteen. Jeez, I wonder

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 2>what happened in Victoria between twenty nineteen and two and

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty three. Oh, that's right, the world's longest lockdowns where

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 2>no one was allowed to go to school, where the

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>kids in the roughest homes were locked in with their

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 2>abuses to flatten the curve over fourteen days, and then

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 2>to keep us safe, and then to get a government

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 2>reelected as it was taking taxpayer funds to poll the

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 2>electorate about what was popular on what was not. The

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 2>reality was that if you fail your kids, you fail

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 2>our future. The Victorian government and any government, any government,

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 2>and many of which the leaders or the governments themselves

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>have gone. Any government that presided over the disgrace that

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 2>they did when it came to kids in our schools

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 2>being kept at home in the most formative years of

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 2>their life, be it at kindergarten or all the way

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>to year twelve, should be ashamed of themselves and should

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 2>be wiped from the history books. If you have an

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to vote them out, vote them out. Meantime, the

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>age has got some more data which extends on the

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 2>reporting of the Herald Sun today, and it is about

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>the amount of assaults that are taking place. Again, we're

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 2>talking in one state here. Assaults in Victorian schools have

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 2>served by about fifty percent in the past two years.

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Jesus wondered what had happened prior to that. Teachers now

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>say that their workplace is becoming dangerous. Schools reported more

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 2>than sixhundred assaults in just one year, the year of

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three June to June twenty twenty four. To

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 2>have a look at this in graph form, the number

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 2>of assaults and related offenses that have been happening in schools,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the.

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<v Speaker 1>Red line, way up, way up.

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Meantime, the amount of stalking and harassment offenses again, way up.

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>A disgraceful indictment on a disgraceful government, on a series

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 2>of disgraceful decisions which has let a generation go adrift more.

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>In a moment here on Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember you can always send an email paultzgdews dot com

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>dot AU Analyst Nielson in the States. Yeah, we know

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 2>what happened today, but let's start to look forward because

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>the sun's coming up on the first full day of

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Trump's second term. Thank you so much for watching. Analyst

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Nielsen has had a front seat to all things Trump

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 2>two point zero from the announcement of his candidacy all

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the way through to the election, and of course was

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 2>part of an excellent cover if.

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I do say so ourselves, it's Sky News from the

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>middle of the night to now the end of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Here many many hours later, she joins us now from Washington, DC,

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>where it's just gone five point thirty in the morning. Mate,

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you are the energizer, Bunny, you just keep going. Well

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>done made. Congrats to you the team and everyone else.

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Chris as well with this show has been absolutely fabulous

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>and Tom with all the great details. So I do

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 2>want to spend much of this conversation looking forward, because

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>we've all done the highlight reel and people who are

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 2>watching it this time in the night have seen it

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 2>many times over. But what to you was most striking

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.719
<v Speaker 2>about being in that arena when there was not just

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 2>the parade. There was a speech of course by the President,

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:43.959
<v Speaker 2>much more informal speech to one that he had made

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 2>at the inaugural, but also those executive orders where that

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 2>change that people had voted for. Am I sort of

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>onto something here that they wanted it, so he gave

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>it to them, and he gave it to them via

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:54.959
<v Speaker 2>a fire hose.

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 13>I heard one journalists say that they were drowning in

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 13>news lines, and I think that is exactly how it's felt,

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 13>and it's because we've had the water cut off for

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 13>so long. I mentioned this previously that news organizations when

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 13>the Biden administration came in, they said that there's not

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 13>going to be news broken on the weekend. So they

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 13>had just skeleton staff at the White House on the weekends. Now,

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 13>news will happen when it happens. And Donald Trump had

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 13>that impromptu press conference last night, this is what people

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 13>expect from the White House, and for four years they've

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 13>had this kind of drip feeding of information from an

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 13>administration that said that they were the most transparent administration

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 13>in history. Last night, when Donald Trump had his press conference,

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 13>his Press secretary Caroline Levett was saying, this is what

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 13>transparency looks like, and that is true. As he was

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 13>signing the executive orders, he was taking questions from reporters

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 13>and he was really answering them. And so this is

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 13>going to be the new normal. There will be news

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 13>broken when it breaks, be reactive, and I'm sure it's

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.280
<v Speaker 13>not always going to be as amenable as it was yesterday.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 13>I'm sure there'll still be tense moments. We saw that

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 13>in the past. There were times when we saw that.

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 13>Apparently Donald Trump ordered every single journalist off the White

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.439
<v Speaker 13>House campus and his staff had to distract him because

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 13>they simply can't do that. But what we are seeing

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 13>is what the American people expected. And Paul, I tell you,

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 13>for the last four years, when I've traveled around America

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 13>and I tell them what I do, tell people what

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 13>I do in Washington, DC, and they want to know

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.760
<v Speaker 13>all about it, the first question they'll say, is who's

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 13>actually running the country. From today, everyone knows who's running

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 13>the country.

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 14>It's Donald Trump.

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>And look again, what was important to see here was

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>that the interaction with the reporters while he was signing stuff.

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't sort of a bunch of North Korean reporters

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 1>which were saying, do you leader, why is everything amazing?

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Could you please tell us why you're amazing?

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 14>It wasn't a rushing the questions measured.

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was, or you're literally being called out.

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.439
<v Speaker 2>Remember Biden used to stand there with those cards saying

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I've been told I have to ask, and the whole

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.240
<v Speaker 2>charade that played out over the past four.

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 14>Years, and the whole question would be there.

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was the garbage. So again, it is going

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 2>to be fractious. There are going to be consequences to

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 2>decisions that are made.

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>There is going to be things.

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 2>But something that I found interesting about the difference between

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:20.399
<v Speaker 2>when he came in the first time when he comes

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 2>in now, is that built into the coverage, the word chaos,

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 2>which was all sort of the key word for every

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 2>decision and every thing, like those press conferences. That was

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 2>built into the narrative of how everyone had to consume

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 2>the news and that news at all hours of any day.

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't exist this time around, does it? Because not

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 2>only does he know what he's doing, but he's got

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 2>a professional series of people around him who were his people.

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 2>He had to compromise with staff at the start, and yeah,

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.240
<v Speaker 2>he was bumping into the furniture, but he's got people

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.760
<v Speaker 2>around him, including the person who ran his campaign, Susie Wilde,

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 2>who is an absolute genie at making sure you shut

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 2>down leaks, keep things focused, and keep things on the

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 2>message of the day.

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 14>Absolutely.

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 13>I think it was just the sense the first time

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 13>around that everyone was so shocked they got in there.

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 13>And I think having four years out of the place

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 13>and it wasn't necessarily the worst thing for him, Having

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 13>to fight against all these legal cases, I think has

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 13>really focused him in on getting back in. But these

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 13>are serious people he surrounded himself with, and that wasn't

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 13>the assumption going into this. We've watched him with his

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 13>appointments for the cabinet secretary positions. The business community is

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 13>really happy with the people he's put in for, especially

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 13>those economic portfolios. And at the end of the day,

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 13>that's what Donald Trump wants. He wants to point at

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 13>the stock market and say I did that, and every American,

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 13>sixty percent of Americans have at least some kind of

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 13>investment in the stock market through four oh one K

0:37:56.239 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 13>retirement savings or some other investment mechanism. So this stock

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 13>market does matter. There'll be people that tell you that

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 13>this is a rich people thing.

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 14>It's not. It's a really ordinary American thing.

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 13>But also just having gas prices come down that is huge.

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 13>I cannot tell you how many small business owners I've

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 13>talked to over the last year, and when they all

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 13>work on small margins and just put their heart and

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 13>souls into businesses, it will often be the transportation costs

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 13>the things that is the thing that kills them. And

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 13>so to say that we're going to start getting oil

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 13>drilling back, We're going to get in a position where

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 13>we're not having a Russian oil going through around all

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 13>these sanctions and actually costing the American tax payer more.

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.439
<v Speaker 13>At the end of the day, these are all things

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 13>that are going to make a huge difference. And also

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 13>just the signaling of Trump coming back in saying I

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 13>care about business, We're doing this. We're going to see

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 13>more investment coming into America to keep Trump happy. That's

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 13>a good thing for Americans and it's a good thing

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 13>for the economy. It's going to be what changes the

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 13>tone of everything. Same with immigration. The tone matters, and

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:01.240
<v Speaker 13>he's already said that time.

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, and I remember I was watching one of the

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>mini speeches in the middle of the night and probably

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. Are you going, what do you think

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 1>of this? What do you think of that? We've talked

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot in the past twelve months. My apologies to

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:13.240
<v Speaker 1>your wonderful husband.

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 14>But I want to know what you thank you.

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 1>God loved you well.

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Is that Trump would make all of these announcements During

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 2>the campaign. We would talk about that if you were

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 2>a company that was operating outside of America and you

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.919
<v Speaker 2>brought your manufacturing base back to America, your corporate tax

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 2>rate would be lower than anyone else's corporate tax rate.

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<v Speaker 1>He's set a whole bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But because everyone was focused on you know, well, trying

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 2>to play the outrage playbook of twenty twenty or following

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 2>the you know he is Hitler garbage that was being

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 2>rolled out, they weren't paying attention to these announcements. So

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 2>all of this has been foreshadowed, all of this has

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:49.399
<v Speaker 2>been promised. None of this to this point is any

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 2>sort of a surprise. Yet the images that people will

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 2>wake up to and the breakfast TV shows start in

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 2>about fifteen minutes over there no doubt they will do

0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 2>the first bit about the speech and the second bit

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 2>about Jesus by and pardons, and then they will eventually

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>get around to the consequences of some of those decisions

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 2>on day one, and people who had been put in

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 2>jail in relation to what they did or what the

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 2>government was able to convince a jury that they did

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<v Speaker 2>on January the sixth, those people are going to start

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 2>to come out of jail. They are coming out of

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 2>jail as we speak. There are going to be attempts

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to remove people with criminal records who were in the

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 2>country illegally, and that's going to be some messy pictures.

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 2>So you can control things in a speech. You can

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 2>control things when you're in the Oval office. But when

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 2>the pictures are people coming out of prison or inevitably

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 2>tears being shed as the person who is being booted

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 2>out of the country, who should have been booted out

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 2>of the country is being booted out of the country,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you think that plays in the next twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hours.

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<v Speaker 13>There's a reason Trump's doing all this on day one,

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<v Speaker 13>because he has such good will built up at this point.

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<v Speaker 14>And I don't say that to Fangol.

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 13>I say that because this is the reality of this

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 13>election result, the fact he got the popular vote, the

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 13>electoral college vote, that he won every swing state, that

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 13>people were so frustrated with Biden having such clear cognitive

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 13>decline over the last few years and being told that

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 13>he was fine, the deep distrust in government. Donald Trump

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 13>is coming in on a high, so he's doing these

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 13>really unpopular things now and then.

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 14>He's going to move on and the headlines will move on.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 13>It was really anticipated for anyone who's been paying attention

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 13>that these January six people would get a pardon. He's

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 13>been saying this for years. He promised his base. He

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 13>doesn't tend to let his base down on things like

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 13>that that matter. The only thing he's really a sidestepped

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 13>from his original hardline position has been around abortion. And

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 13>that's because they took so many hits again and again,

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 13>especially in the midterms. It was just kind of they

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 13>had to see the writing on the wall. But this

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 13>was going to happen. I think when you look at

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 13>surveys around people's attitudes towards January six, the attitudes have

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 13>still fall on party lines, but the intensity of those

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 13>feelings has diminished as time goes on. It was a

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:01.760
<v Speaker 13>terrible terrible summer. There were riots in major cities across

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 13>the country. There was a lot of destruction, and so

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 13>a lot of people put that part and parcel in it.

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 13>And for a lot of people, when we're talking about

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 13>the fifteen hundred who've been charged in some relation to

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 13>January sixth, a lot of them we're talking about commuting sentences,

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 13>so they still will carry that guilty conviction. Many of

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.320
<v Speaker 13>them have done time, and so for a lot of people,

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 13>they'll just say, look, it's time to move on. I

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 13>think if there's one headline out of it that's going

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 13>to hurt, it'll be the Proud Boys getting out, because

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 13>people are still spooked by that element. But America does

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 13>have a big history of this. Three hundred and twenty

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 13>million people in this country. There are militias across the country.

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 13>There are stockpiles and guns, and they fight for their

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 13>Second Amendment.

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<v Speaker 14>Right, let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 13>So it's complicated, but I think in the flurry of

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 13>news it will people will move on.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, forgive me, I'm going to make you blush, but

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to say something. Sky News has got an

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 2>incredible presence in the United States. Yes, we've got a

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.839
<v Speaker 2>lot of YouTube support over there a lot of people

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 2>who love the reporting left, he's losing it. Lots of

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.280
<v Speaker 2>great stuff that we do, but years ago we didn't

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 2>have an American correspondent. It was Analysi's idea to create it.

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 2>And one of the reasons why it is so easy

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 2>to be a person like me when you go to

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 2>the United States is because of what we have built.

0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>And we've built that as a result of Analysa's hard work.

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 2>And yes, everyone surges in for the Grand Final, but

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 2>we have our a game there all day, every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations mate, thank.

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<v Speaker 14>You, Paul.

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<v Speaker 13>And just while you're letting us say nice things, the

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 13>reality is, I'm only here because my dad told me

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 13>to and it's actually his birthday today.

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 1>He's the one four.

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:37.840
<v Speaker 13>Years ago that So come on, let's go cover the

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 13>Iowa Caucuses.

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 14>You can do this. You should be a US correspondent.

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 14>I'll help you make the pitch. So really, it's my dad.

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 14>I love you.

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.919
<v Speaker 1>I love Mum to of course you don't upset Mom.

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<v Speaker 1>We love you too, Mum. All right, thank you guys,

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 1>we do appreciate Thank you. Analyse love your done soon.

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Analyst Nielsen, honestly, she doesn't phenomenal job in the US

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>for us all day, every day, and yet it's been

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 1>awesome to hang out with her. And she's just leaps

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and bounds, leaps and bounds, all right, quick break back

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>with more, including more polling data showing a change of government.

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Very horribable here in Australia. Will it happen? Let's have

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:11.280
<v Speaker 1>a look at the data next.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for watching late debate less than ten minutes away.

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's make the most of our time together tomorrow and night.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Meghan Kelly our special guest.

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>We love her. She of course played.

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 2>A role in the rally just before inauguration Day. She

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 2>was in and around DC and spent time with the

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Donald just before he became president.

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Again. Ple need to talk about with her, including pushing back.

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Against many of the lefty media that is around, and

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I look forward to talking to her tomorrow. New pole

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 2>came out today regarding the election regarding the future of

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Abernezi. This one from the Turnbull Times otherwise known

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 2>as The Guardian, and I got to say I generally

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 2>like this pole because they ask interesting questions pretty consistently, right.

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I also like that they publish all of the data

0:44:56.640 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 2>which means I can show you this now. Obviously, no

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 2>primary vote is normally put out by everyone. In this case,

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 2>it shows that the Labor parties vote is lower than

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 2>it was the twenty twenty two election by about two

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:13.880
<v Speaker 2>point six percent. Also, the Liberal National Party's vote is

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 2>up nowhere, not quite at the forty that other polls

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 2>that I've shown you this week, and that's because they

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 2>keep in things like other and don't know into their poll.

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Green's basically the same one nation basically the same and other.

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Now remember other can be everything from libertarian through to teal.

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 2>So that other factor in some poles is at ten

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 2>percent in their one is at seven percent, but just

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 2>five percent of people sit in that don't know category. Now,

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 2>remember if they split fifty to fifty and five percent,

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 2>what's hard to do that. But basically let's imagine, well,

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:49.839
<v Speaker 2>you still end up in a scenario where the Liberal

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Party gets closer to forty Remember forty percent when it

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 2>comes to its primary vote is where an average normal

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 2>election would most likely result in a coalition win. The asterisk,

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 2>as always is that seven percent. Where we're talking about tels,

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 2>independence and a whole collection.

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Of other things.

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 2>But also interesting in the polling that they put out

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 2>is this graph here, and this is about.

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>The national mood.

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Now, I mean, I'm happy to stand by their stat

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 2>because we.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Quote it all the time.

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:18.840
<v Speaker 2>But you may well have noticed that it was above

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent for month after month after month after month

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.319
<v Speaker 2>after month. That's the blue one at the top, and

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 2>then the wrong track number has dropped ever so slightly.

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 2>The right track number has spiked, which would suggest to

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 2>me that we need a few more of these. But

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 2>it is a trend that the Prime Minister would obviously

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 2>be rather excited about. But then there's the information that

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of contradicts the information that they have presented inside

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 2>their poll, including the current state of the Australian economy. Well,

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 2>very signific number of people will say there that it

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 2>is poor. How do you feel the economy will go

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 2>in the next six months? Fifty two percent of labor

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 2>supporters think that it's going to stay the same, which

0:46:58.120 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 2>of course.

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Is bad, or fifty.

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 2>One percent of Coalition people say the same. In fact,

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 2>bigger number says worse. But interestingly that independent and other

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 2>number put that together, we don't know. It starts to

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 2>paint the picture if people think that things are going

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 2>to stay the same, which has been bad or is

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:16.359
<v Speaker 2>going to get worse. None of that is good for

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister. Plenty more here to have a look

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 2>at about an in and around this pole, and there's

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 2>more polling data. As we get it, we'll talk about

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 2>it and all the rest of it. Interestingly as well,

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 2>we talk about election spending. Now, I must have overcarried

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 2>one or two last night, because I presented a number

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 2>to you that I think it was fifty billion dollars

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 2>in spending. Thankfully, it is not fifty billion dollars in spending.

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:42.919
<v Speaker 2>That's already come up with Albo right now, it's about

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 2>twelve point two billion dollars. But still we are not

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 2>even at the end of the first month of the year,

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and the Prime Minister thinking that he can buy his

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 2>way to your heart. He thinks that he's able to

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 2>do it with promise to day billions of dollars and

0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 2>currently twelve point two billion dollars. Me think he's probably

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 2>not done with spending, as we like to say, other

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 2>people's money. Also worth noting too that politicians have got

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 2>tens of millions of dollars which they are able to

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 2>just dole out without really having to ask anyone. In fact,

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.800
<v Speaker 2>interesting reporting which was again served up today in the

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:23.919
<v Speaker 2>Financial Review. It says that all political parties, in fact

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 2>all sitting MPs, have got a special fund of which

0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 2>they can personally say, donate to raffle tickets of a

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 2>couple of hundred dollars, or they can fund promises up

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to many thousands of dollars. In fact, it's about twenty

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 2>two million dollars of other people's money, which of course

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 2>only means the people that are already there have a

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 2>financial advantage to being able to campaign to stay there

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 2>See tomorrow.