Speaker 1: From the sky in Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sherry Would of the man K.
Speaker 2: Breaking news is that we have some result out of
Speaker 2: National Cabinet which has met in the past few hours
Speaker 2: to discuss what to do with the situation involving antisemitism
Speaker 2: and the antisemitism attacks that have now resulted in, as
Speaker 2: you know, the firebombing of a childcare center. Now I
Speaker 2: understand that the meeting was convened well the best.
Speaker 1: Part of four hours ago.
Speaker 2: They spoke for a significant amount of time, but the
Speaker 2: results are not impressive. The Prime Minister has released the
Speaker 2: following statement that all that has come of today's National
Speaker 2: Cabinet meeting is leaders agreed today to establish a national
Speaker 2: database to track anti Semitic crime and antisemitic incidents and behaviors.
Speaker 2: The Commonwealth will work with state and territories to develop
Speaker 2: the database. The purpose of one national apporting system is
Speaker 2: to better inform and coordinate responses to anti Semitic incidents.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: You saw Chris Mins in an excellent invidew with Sharry
Speaker 2: Markson speaking about hate laws and how hate laws in
Speaker 2: Western Australia should form the model of what will be
Speaker 2: brought into place in New South Wales. Where is the
Speaker 2: discussion of such legislation in that National Cabinet meeting which
Speaker 2: took place today. Literally here it is one, two, three,
Speaker 2: four pages from the Prime Minister. Literally the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: convened today to address the shocking anti Semitic crimes.
Speaker 1: Pad pad pad pad pad pad.
Speaker 2: They unequivocally condemn anti Semitism and reaffirm to stamp it
Speaker 2: out in Australia. Pad pad pad with old announcements. It's
Speaker 2: also a collection of data that's come from press releases
Speaker 2: from state police agencies in the past few months.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: No one is going to be able to solve the
Speaker 2: scourge of anti Semitism in one afternoon. But the idea
Speaker 2: that a Prime Minister who's been drag kicking and screaming
Speaker 2: to the meeting that he has had this afternoon with
Speaker 2: all of the people in charge of all of the
Speaker 2: police forces in all of the states, that the best
Speaker 2: that they can come up with is let's get a
Speaker 2: whiteboard and keep score of what's going on. I'll have
Speaker 2: more to say about it a little bit later, but
Speaker 2: that is the breaking news which is coming out of
Speaker 2: Canberra as we speak. More from the Prime Minister no
Speaker 2: doubt about this tomorrow, but of course the focus for us,
Speaker 2: and why.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be.
Speaker 2: We've been on the journey the whole way, from the
Speaker 2: Golden Escalator all the way through to meeting a president,
Speaker 2: the exile of twenty twenty, the return to the political
Speaker 2: arena in twenty twenty two, and the triumphant victory in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Yeah, I'm going to talk about Trump tonight,
Speaker 2: but like most shows, we always try to find a
Speaker 2: different way of doing it, and we'll have a better
Speaker 2: and longer conversation with Analyse Nilsen, because I want to
Speaker 2: start to look forward as well as look back as
Speaker 2: to what has happened in the past twenty four hours. Also,
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister was absolutely blown away today by Chris Mins.
Speaker 2: Chris Mins didn a phenomenal job and to see the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister of Australia reduced to a nodding head at
Speaker 2: somebody else's press conference tells you everything about how diminish
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister has become. And a bit more information
Speaker 2: about cricket and Australia Day, including some new polling which
Speaker 2: tells us just exactly.
Speaker 1: Whom are the people who would like to change the date. Surprise, surprise, it.
Speaker 2: Is not a majority of people, But how can I
Speaker 2: not take a moment? And I know I've heard about
Speaker 2: it all day, but please forgive me for having my say.
Speaker 2: Today was an extraordinary day for those of us that
Speaker 2: have followed the story of Donald Trump and care about
Speaker 2: the future of the United States. Put simply, today can
Speaker 2: be described in a series of images.
Speaker 1: Out with the old as.
Speaker 2: Biden was packed out the back door, and in with
Speaker 2: the new, as a new president was sworn in. The
Speaker 2: day started in a church, It ended in a spectacular
Speaker 2: series of ballroom dancers. It was a day of endless ceremony,
Speaker 2: something that America is unique in its ability to mesh
Speaker 2: many parts of its culture with its politics. Of course,
Speaker 2: the Brits do things beautifully for the Royals, and there
Speaker 2: are plenty of places in other parts of the world
Speaker 2: that do a good ceremony. But when America turns it on, unsurprisingly,
Speaker 2: they always turn it up to eleven. Which is why
Speaker 2: I loved that the speech that Donald Trump delivered in
Speaker 2: the early hours of this morning Australian time, bang on
Speaker 2: midday in Washington, d C. It annoyed all the right people.
Speaker 2: He stood right in front of the person who wanted
Speaker 2: to be president and the current president and just verbally
Speaker 2: smacked them about the room. Put simply their behavior, their
Speaker 2: actions over the past four years gave a rebirth to
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and created the very moment that they had
Speaker 2: to sit through today. The speech that was watched by
Speaker 2: the powerful, be they financial and business tycoons or the
Speaker 2: people who have had their turn at leading the United States,
Speaker 2: But more importantly, it was cheered on by millions of
Speaker 2: people who never gave up, people who took to heart
Speaker 2: fight fight fight when when win and they had their
Speaker 2: moment to savor today. These people have lost friends, jobs,
Speaker 2: all the things that have come with supporting Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: but today was their day. And as always on momentous
Speaker 2: occasions or elections, I always try to circle in on
Speaker 2: to five things, five things to remember, five things that
Speaker 2: we've learned, five things that stood out to me. And
Speaker 2: again some of these will be different than what you
Speaker 2: have heard all day long.
Speaker 1: This is the biggest story in the world. Why wouldn't
Speaker 1: we give it the coverage that we have both live,
Speaker 1: which started this morning at three o'clock. I was thankful
Speaker 1: to be there with Pete and then Laura for a
Speaker 1: big part of the morning and of course into primetime
Speaker 1: here on Sky News. But five things that we learned
Speaker 1: about upon Trump's return to power. His speech was fierce
Speaker 1: and it was fearless.
Speaker 2: After being sworn in, every president has the opportunity to
Speaker 2: frame with soaring rhetoric or straight talk, their sense of
Speaker 2: where the country is and where they want the country
Speaker 2: to go. For the soaring rhetoric part, the bit for
Speaker 2: the history books, the grab that is played in the
Speaker 2: montages for years to come. This was Trump's effort.
Speaker 3: The golden age of America begins right now. From their
Speaker 3: stay forward, our country will flourish and be respected again
Speaker 3: all over the world. We will be the envy of
Speaker 3: every nation, and we will not allow ourselves to be
Speaker 3: taken advantage of any longer. During every single day of
Speaker 3: the Trump administration, I will very simply put America first.
Speaker 2: I mentioned the part of the speech where he was
Speaker 2: just verbally giving it to the people who tried to
Speaker 2: put him in jail, who tried to scandalize him, who
Speaker 2: effectively defeated him four years ago. But because of the
Speaker 2: decisions that they made, chiefly and most importantly dismantling a
Speaker 2: border protection system that Trump had established that worked, that
Speaker 2: resulted in open borders that they pretended weren't open, where
Speaker 2: the person in the vice presidency had responsibility for the
Speaker 2: root causes. She became the borders are but then they
Speaker 2: told us that wasn't her title, and millions of people
Speaker 2: entered the United States illegally. And the United States, like
Speaker 2: Australia and any other great country around the world, is
Speaker 2: built on immigration. We need people to come from all
Speaker 2: over the world to commit to the future and the
Speaker 2: prosperity and the blank pages of history yet to be
Speaker 2: written by our great countries. But what makes a country
Speaker 2: a country is a border. A border that is defended.
Speaker 2: A border that can be defended, yes, by your army,
Speaker 2: your navy, and your air force, but it must be
Speaker 2: defended by making sure that the people who cross into
Speaker 2: that border are people who have raised the tests for
Speaker 2: citizenship or will come and go as visitors to your country.
Speaker 2: Anything else means you don't have a country. And while
Speaker 2: there may be a small sliver of people who may
Speaker 2: meet in everywhere from Davos to a beatnik club in
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties who don't think that countries should have borders,
Speaker 2: we all demand that those borders are defended. The failure
Speaker 2: to do so by Biden and Harris in part was
Speaker 2: a stirring reason while the American peace people who had
Speaker 2: rejected him four years earlier went back into his embrace
Speaker 2: and rather than tell stories after the event of what
Speaker 2: you wish you could have said, or what you might
Speaker 2: have said in private, Donald Trump did it for the
Speaker 2: world to see, and it was magnificent.
Speaker 3: We now have a government that cannot manage even a
Speaker 3: simple crisis at home, while at the same time stumbling
Speaker 3: into a continuing catalog of catastrophic events abroad. We have
Speaker 3: a government that has given unlimited funding to the defense
Speaker 3: of foreign borders, but refuses to defend American borders or
Speaker 3: more importantly, its own people. By recent election, has a
Speaker 3: mandate to completely and totally reverse a horrible betrayal and
Speaker 3: all of these many betrayals that have taken place, and
Speaker 3: to give the people back their faith, their wealth, their democracy,
Speaker 3: and indeed their freedom. From this moment on, America's decline
Speaker 3: is over now.
Speaker 2: It is depending where you were watching and what you
Speaker 2: were watching. But some of the TV pictures were wide
Speaker 2: enough to see the discomfort, the obvious discomfort of Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: who you could tell was half wanting to roll his
Speaker 2: eyes and half wanting to heckel and Kamala Harris, who
Speaker 2: of course dreamt that this would be her day, was
Speaker 2: grinding her teeth as hard as you could possibly imagine
Speaker 2: while trying to pretend that she wasn't showing it. But
Speaker 2: the message that Trump delivered was not just too the
Speaker 2: current administration, but it was to the living presidents in
Speaker 2: the room. The living presidents who presided over an explosion
Speaker 2: in government spending under Obama, the Forever Wars under George W. Bush,
Speaker 2: and the trade deals that resulted in better deals for
Speaker 2: countries other than the United States Bill Clinton. They too,
Speaker 2: were just as uncomfortable as they should be. Trump will be,
Speaker 2: no doubt criticized for not following the usual path here
Speaker 2: of saving such things for a private dinner, but Trump
Speaker 2: doesn't do it that way. Whether you like or don't
Speaker 2: like Trump, you have to admire a person who is
Speaker 2: willing to be that direct. It doesn't mean that they're
Speaker 2: automatically right. I happen to believe that he is, but
Speaker 2: I would prefer that sort of transparency and directness rather
Speaker 2: than people spilling their true thoughts in a book years
Speaker 2: after they no longer have any consequence or are not
Speaker 2: in a position to actually change people's lives. Which brings
Speaker 2: me to the second thing that we learned about on
Speaker 2: Trump's return to office today, as forty five became forty seven,
Speaker 2: voters wanted change and they got change today. From the
Speaker 2: moment it was clear that he was going to not
Speaker 2: just win the swing States, not just win the electoral College,
Speaker 2: but eventually win the popular vote, there is an absolute
Speaker 2: and clear mandate that the country was headed in the
Speaker 2: wrong direction. We knew it in polls, we knew it
Speaker 2: in our guts, But the result of that election couldn't
Speaker 2: have been clearer. The country had gone too far down
Speaker 2: the wrong track, which is why it elected Donald Trump
Speaker 2: in the fashion in which it did. And one thing
Speaker 2: that a president can do on day one is to
Speaker 2: sign a series of executive orders. Now these do not
Speaker 2: work as laws, but they work as directions to everyone
Speaker 2: in the federal government, from the person who will see
Speaker 2: you a stamp in the.
Speaker 1: Post office, all the way through to the High.
Speaker 2: Command of the Pentagon, from the Education Department to the
Speaker 2: Transportation Department, the health sector, environment, and today Trump chose change,
Speaker 2: not one little change, but many many changes, order after
Speaker 2: order after order after order, stretching from controversial pardons of
Speaker 2: people involved in January the sixth all the way through
Speaker 2: to common sense about gender. And he wanted everyone to see,
Speaker 2: you hired me to change things. Let's change things.
Speaker 1: So this is a big one. That's a big one.
Speaker 1: That's a big one. Posessions, Oh, that's a big one.
Speaker 1: That's a big one. I love it again.
Speaker 2: Not behind closed doors with somebody pushing a press release
Speaker 2: out at five minutes to midnight, Bring the cameras in,
Speaker 2: bring the world in. And amazingly as he was doing this,
Speaker 2: and think about this as a comparison to the man
Speaker 2: who much, if not all, of the US media was
Speaker 2: trying to tell us was the smartest and greatest president
Speaker 2: at the absolute height of his intellectual powers, when we
Speaker 2: knew Joe Biden was crumbling from before he took on
Speaker 2: the presidency, let alone when he fell up the stairs
Speaker 2: in his first year, or fell asleep at conferences, or
Speaker 2: completely collapsed before.
Speaker 1: Our very own eyes.
Speaker 2: At that election debate, Joe Biden barely spoke to the media.
Speaker 2: He barely led in the reporters to ask whatever questions
Speaker 2: they want and answer them as if he was playing
Speaker 2: a game of tennis. Well, like any player who's currently
Speaker 2: doing phenomenal things in Melbourne, Donald Trump wasn't just playing
Speaker 2: tennis with the reporters. He was playing it with both hands.
Speaker 1: Full pardon.
Speaker 3: We have about sex commutations and there.
Speaker 4: Would you think about ordering US special forces into the.
Speaker 1: Mexico to take them out? Could happen?
Speaker 5: What's going to be your priority or foreign policy?
Speaker 1: It's going to be to keep America safe.
Speaker 6: How do you plan to end the crane worn Well,
Speaker 6: we're going.
Speaker 3: To try and get it done as correctly as place.
Speaker 1: Again, I love this rock and roll Now.
Speaker 2: Four eight years ago, people referred to this as chaos
Speaker 2: because it was the first time that a modern American
Speaker 2: president had done multiple things in one day. You see
Speaker 2: the way that things are supposed to work, the way
Speaker 2: they've always worked, The way that people have come to
Speaker 2: expect the communication to come from the most powerful office
Speaker 2: in the world, is that it's one thing a day,
Speaker 2: or it's one message a week, because the dear people
Speaker 2: only need to be fed every now and then to
Speaker 2: be reminded that there is someone in charge of their country.
Speaker 2: Trump runs at a break neck pace. He is a
Speaker 2: bull in a china shop, and that does mean that
Speaker 2: things get broken. And eight years ago there were plenty
Speaker 2: of things that seemed like in the early days they
Speaker 2: were being broken. But it feels like in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five things are being targeted to be broken up, reformed,
Speaker 2: and to use the lefty term, built back better. Anyone
Speaker 2: who knows and loves the United States knows that it
Speaker 2: is a wonderful, incredible country. But it is one with
Speaker 2: incredible flaws. And one of its flaws is the distance
Speaker 2: between its citizens and the people in charge now, Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: and every decision that he will make may well please
Speaker 2: or displease plenty.
Speaker 1: Of people, But what they asked for was change, and
Speaker 1: by goodness, did they get it. Today.
Speaker 2: Number three Biden proved exactly why Trump is back in office.
Speaker 2: Let's go in the way back machine to when it
Speaker 2: was Joe Biden's moment to assume the presidency. This was
Speaker 2: what he said about his plan for the country, and
Speaker 2: this is what he said about the concept of giving
Speaker 2: people in your own family a magical get out of
Speaker 2: jail free.
Speaker 5: Cod uniting our people, uniting in our nation, uniting to
Speaker 5: fight the foes.
Speaker 1: We face with unity.
Speaker 5: Well, it's it concerns me in terms of what kind
Speaker 5: of precedence sets and how the rest of the world
Speaker 5: looks at us as a nation of laws and injustice.
Speaker 5: You're not going to see an our administration that kind
Speaker 5: of approach to pardons.
Speaker 2: And as I say on the internet as you scroll
Speaker 2: light at night, this is how it started, this is
Speaker 2: how it ends.
Speaker 5: The only garbage I see floating down there is his.
Speaker 7: Supporters major breaking news coming from now former President Joe Biden.
Speaker 7: He has issued pardons for multiple members of his family,
Speaker 7: his siblings and their respective spouses. And I just want
Speaker 7: to read for everyone a part of the president's statement,
Speaker 7: the former president's statement explaining why he just to take
Speaker 7: really this extraordinary move.
Speaker 2: And unbelievably many of these pardons extend to the members
Speaker 2: of his family whom we know to be part of
Speaker 2: the pay portrayal of peddling influence, which is why the
Speaker 2: pardons are not for the past twelve months or for
Speaker 2: the past two years. Some of these pardons go all
Speaker 2: the way back to when he was the vice president
Speaker 2: of the United States, all the way back to twenty
Speaker 2: and fourteen, when Hunter was being paid millions of dollars
Speaker 2: for a job that he was clearly not qualified for,
Speaker 2: and his brother James was involved in the operation that business.
Speaker 1: Partners said had a cut for the big guy.
Speaker 2: Again, Biden has yet again proven why Trump is back
Speaker 2: in the Oval office and he is hitting the bricks.
Speaker 3: President Baden, who would going to Piden and his whole
Speaker 3: family because that makes him look very guilty.
Speaker 1: I could have pardon my family. I could have pardoned
Speaker 1: myself my family.
Speaker 3: And I said, if I do that, it's going to
Speaker 3: make me look very guilt out, or they're going to
Speaker 3: be sitting here.
Speaker 1: Frankly.
Speaker 2: Fourth thing, establishment media in the United States has learnt nothing,
Speaker 2: nothing since the election. Now, as I said on the
Speaker 2: rooftop in Washington back in November.
Speaker 1: Part of the result was a rejection of the media
Speaker 1: that had scandalized anything to do with Donald Trump in
Speaker 1: the four years when he was not president. And in
Speaker 1: my view, many of the people who ended up voting
Speaker 1: for Trump, well, they don't engage with this media anymore
Speaker 1: now that at times can have all sorts of consequences
Speaker 1: for a democracy.
Speaker 2: But they ruined their reputation. They cried wolf too many times.
Speaker 2: And now you would have thought after an election that
Speaker 2: they would at least balance up some of their panels. Instead, No,
Speaker 2: it's all a collection of people from the same media
Speaker 2: organizations who called him Hitler, pushing the same stories that
Speaker 2: the world was going to end should he become elected,
Speaker 2: all pushing the stories there was no chance he was
Speaker 2: going to win because the poles were so tired. The
Speaker 2: poles were so tired. They haven't balanced those people up.
Speaker 2: They don't have people who represent the benefit of the
Speaker 2: doubt position for Donald Trump, let alone the full Maga advocacy. Instead,
Speaker 2: it's all the same people who were wrong eight years
Speaker 2: ago were wrong four months ago, all bringing in the
Speaker 2: same token representatives of the Trump world to war wave
Speaker 2: their fingers and snarl. Just some of the nonsense that
Speaker 2: has been running today in the American media, including garbage
Speaker 2: on the people who are barely coping with the election result,
Speaker 2: let alone the reality of Trump returning.
Speaker 1: To the presidency.
Speaker 2: Who are pretending that rather than the weather that the experts,
Speaker 2: the science told us was going to be the worst
Speaker 2: in forty years, and that was the decision why everything
Speaker 2: decided to go inside. Now they want the lefty Jiti
Speaker 2: mind trick for you to completely forget what the weather
Speaker 2: guy was telling us about what was going to be
Speaker 2: happening in Washington today and get ready for this as
Speaker 2: the first hoax of the new Trump era.
Speaker 8: The obsession of Trump's rhetoric is always a theme of
Speaker 8: national decline and national humiliation. It's a little like a
Speaker 8: cult leader who keeps predicting different days for the end
Speaker 8: of the world.
Speaker 9: Quote as Trump disparate as migrants as criminals and outlines
Speaker 9: as plans, They're not just million There are not millions
Speaker 9: and millions of criminal aliens as he claims. Today, a
Speaker 9: largely white crowd is applied in the rotunda.
Speaker 1: Chief amongst them Joey Reid from MSNBC. Listen to this
Speaker 1: garbage for wine.
Speaker 10: It was indoors, presumably because of the weather, though I
Speaker 10: should know that today's chili conditions were similar to those
Speaker 10: at President Obama's first and outdoors inauguration in two thousand
Speaker 10: and nine, calling many to speculate that the move indoors
Speaker 10: had more to do with concerns that Trump couldn't draw
Speaker 10: a sufficiently large crowd.
Speaker 2: What seriously, there weren't even fifty thousand protesters who turned up.
Speaker 1: Eight years ago. It was allegedly immediate I'm.
Speaker 2: Pretty sure that if things were held as they were
Speaker 2: planned to be.
Speaker 1: Held, that there would have been probably a bigger crowd.
Speaker 2: I would not dare predict the exact number, but a
Speaker 2: way bigger crowd than twenty sixteen, because people will proudly
Speaker 2: wear a mega hat now and it barely gets a hiss.
Speaker 2: Not because every person in America agrees, but because the
Speaker 2: country was headed in the wrong direction, and the majority
Speaker 2: of people in the states that out of the most
Speaker 2: and in fact overall, the majority of people who voted
Speaker 2: in the election in November agreed. Anyone suggesting, oh, there's
Speaker 2: no way they would have turned up to mark the
Speaker 2: occasion is living in a fantasy land, a fantasy land
Speaker 2: where they will gladly profit. But enjoy your time coping,
Speaker 2: because you're going to be coping day after day after day.
Speaker 2: And then there was this garbage over on CNN. Elon
Speaker 2: Musk gave a speech inside the center where the parade
Speaker 2: took place. Oh, but is that a Nazi salute that
Speaker 2: he just did?
Speaker 11: You saw him come out with that odd looking salute. Yeah,
Speaker 11: it was odd looking. We're going to show a screen
Speaker 11: grab of it. And as he said to him, the
Speaker 11: future of civilization is assured now that Trump.
Speaker 1: Won, so.
Speaker 2: They can run it without the sound or you may
Speaker 2: will have seen a picture, but here's what actually happened
Speaker 2: in real time, and they were in the room to
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 4: My heart goes out here. It is thanks to you
Speaker 4: that the future of civilization is a shirt.
Speaker 10: Thanks to you, we're.
Speaker 4: Gonna have safe cities, finally, safe cities, secure borders, sensible spending,
Speaker 4: basic stuff, and we're going to take Dosee to Mars.
Speaker 1: It was about his heart.
Speaker 2: Oh, the still frame meant we can get back into
Speaker 2: Trump is terrible. They're all Nazis.
Speaker 1: And finally the fifth one, Baron Trump's a boss six
Speaker 1: foot nine in the old language or bloody tall in Bogan.
Speaker 1: How good does this bloke go? He's obviously just off
Speaker 1: at university right now.
Speaker 2: Remember he was ten when Trump became president for the
Speaker 2: first time. I love that he was rolling his eyes
Speaker 2: at some of the stuff that was going on today,
Speaker 2: particularly with Elon Musk cheering, but he owned every moment
Speaker 2: when his name was called out. He's loving it. And
Speaker 2: does anyone see a third Trump term sometime in the future,
Speaker 2: But maybe it's barn I just took that suggestion in
Speaker 2: to annoy the same people who didn't actually look at
Speaker 2: the footage of what happened in America today. And again
Speaker 2: back to that Elon Musk situation, you get the feeling
Speaker 2: that Baron probably is spending too much time around Elon,
Speaker 2: or Elon is spending too much time around Donald because
Speaker 2: he couldn't hide when he was yelling in the Donald's moment.
Speaker 1: I love that kid. Huge future ahead, all right, we'll talk.
Speaker 2: To Anealise Nelson in a few minutes time about the
Speaker 2: forward looking here, we all know what happened today, what
Speaker 2: is into the future, and what is different about America
Speaker 2: in Trump's second and final term as president of the
Speaker 2: United States. But first let me turn our attention to
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister and what I opened the show with
Speaker 2: convence National Cabinet months after it was first suggested, in fact,
Speaker 2: more than a year after it was first suggested by
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton to deal with the anti Semitic attacks, the
Speaker 2: latest of which was this fire bombing of the daycare
Speaker 2: center in the eastern suburbs of Sydney. Now, bizarrely, when
Speaker 2: all of this was playing out on breakfast television this morning,
Speaker 2: and I was sitting next to Pete Stefanovic. We saw
Speaker 2: some footage coming in that the Prime Minister was turning up. Now,
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister is always welcome to go wherever he
Speaker 2: wishes at any one time, but it was a little
Speaker 2: bit odd that the Prime Minister was there well as
Speaker 2: the fieries were this morning.
Speaker 12: Well, I'm here to see firsthand what is clearly a
Speaker 12: despicable crime.
Speaker 10: It's to.
Speaker 12: Talk with the local community as well with premium mints.
Speaker 1: Thank you think I am a lot.
Speaker 2: Now again, I know there's not a Goldilocks thing here
Speaker 2: where if you come to early or you wait too late.
Speaker 2: And what's the exact moment for a prome minius uel
Speaker 2: or visit.
Speaker 1: Well, I would suggest within a couple of hours of
Speaker 1: this it felt a little bit early, but presumably he
Speaker 1: was close enough either at home in Marrickville, but remember
Speaker 1: at home in Sydney's careabillity, So he's got across the bridge,
Speaker 1: go across all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: And basically he was reacting to what he was seeing
Speaker 2: on TV at the time and the fact that it
Speaker 2: involved a childcare center. Men that we now know that
Speaker 2: we're hitting a new level with all of this. But again,
Speaker 2: national cabinet. It meets today, it meets for hours, and
Speaker 2: all it comes up with is let's have a database.
Speaker 2: Let's just keep score of what's going on.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Remember he might want to own that this was what
Speaker 2: he wanted to do, but he was dragkicking and screaming.
Speaker 2: Dunton first suggested this in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 12: What we want and what people want to see isn't
Speaker 12: more meetings. They want action and what people want to
Speaker 12: see isn't more meetings. So I want to see more action.
Speaker 2: And then there was this weird moment where the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister decided to do a press conference with the Premier
Speaker 2: of New South Wales and the Premier of New South
Speaker 2: Wales in political terms, in performance terms, blew the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister off the park.
Speaker 6: It breaks your heart that we have animals in our
Speaker 6: city that are prepared to burn down a childcare center
Speaker 6: to make this point. It is completely disgusting and these
Speaker 6: bastards will be round up by New South Wales police.
Speaker 1: Compare the pair who looks like the leader of the
Speaker 1: country and who just looks like the passenger at that press.
Speaker 12: Conference this morning, As Chris has said, I spoke with
Speaker 12: him with Rabbi Goldstein. He said to me words that
Speaker 12: will stick with me. He said, peace, light and love.
Speaker 12: That's what Australia is about, and indeed that is what
Speaker 12: people of faith are about as well spreading that harmony.
Speaker 2: The problem for the Prime Minister is passion. Now you
Speaker 2: cannot fake it. You either believe it or you don't.
Speaker 2: You either think that the country is starting to day
Speaker 2: by day, event by event, go further and further down
Speaker 2: the wrong track, or you are responding to what you
Speaker 2: think is a concern in the community that you don't share.
Speaker 2: Judge them not just on what they say, but what
Speaker 2: they do. And in the case the Prime Minister today, eventually,
Speaker 2: when he had every important person in Australian government in
Speaker 2: the same room, he turns around and makes a decision.
Speaker 1: To establish a database.
Speaker 2: Speaking of keeping school, there is a horrible score which
Speaker 2: is playing out in the schools of Australia. You know
Speaker 2: I care because I've got two little ones in primary school.
Speaker 2: But I know you care because it's the future of
Speaker 2: the country. Particularly in Victoria. Today, the Herald Sign had
Speaker 2: incredible data that ninety thousand students have been suspended in
Speaker 2: Victorian schools in the pre COVID year all the way
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty three. The documents which were obtained by
Speaker 2: the Herald Sun and the freedom of information laws revealed
Speaker 2: the true extent of student suspensions. At two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty schools, eighty seven thy twenty one, eighty seven students
Speaker 2: are suspended each and every day. This is up by
Speaker 2: thirty three zero percent since twenty nineteen. Jeez, I wonder
Speaker 2: what happened in Victoria between twenty nineteen and two and
Speaker 2: twenty three. Oh, that's right, the world's longest lockdowns where
Speaker 2: no one was allowed to go to school, where the
Speaker 2: kids in the roughest homes were locked in with their
Speaker 2: abuses to flatten the curve over fourteen days, and then
Speaker 2: to keep us safe, and then to get a government
Speaker 2: reelected as it was taking taxpayer funds to poll the
Speaker 2: electorate about what was popular on what was not. The
Speaker 2: reality was that if you fail your kids, you fail
Speaker 2: our future. The Victorian government and any government, any government,
Speaker 2: and many of which the leaders or the governments themselves
Speaker 2: have gone. Any government that presided over the disgrace that
Speaker 2: they did when it came to kids in our schools
Speaker 2: being kept at home in the most formative years of
Speaker 2: their life, be it at kindergarten or all the way
Speaker 2: to year twelve, should be ashamed of themselves and should
Speaker 2: be wiped from the history books. If you have an
Speaker 2: opportunity to vote them out, vote them out. Meantime, the
Speaker 2: age has got some more data which extends on the
Speaker 2: reporting of the Herald Sun today, and it is about
Speaker 2: the amount of assaults that are taking place. Again, we're
Speaker 2: talking in one state here. Assaults in Victorian schools have
Speaker 2: served by about fifty percent in the past two years.
Speaker 2: Jesus wondered what had happened prior to that. Teachers now
Speaker 2: say that their workplace is becoming dangerous. Schools reported more
Speaker 2: than sixhundred assaults in just one year, the year of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three June to June twenty twenty four. To
Speaker 2: have a look at this in graph form, the number
Speaker 2: of assaults and related offenses that have been happening in schools,
Speaker 2: that's the.
Speaker 1: Red line, way up, way up.
Speaker 2: Meantime, the amount of stalking and harassment offenses again, way up.
Speaker 2: A disgraceful indictment on a disgraceful government, on a series
Speaker 2: of disgraceful decisions which has let a generation go adrift more.
Speaker 1: In a moment here on Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Remember you can always send an email paultzgdews dot com
Speaker 2: dot AU Analyst Nielson in the States. Yeah, we know
Speaker 2: what happened today, but let's start to look forward because
Speaker 2: the sun's coming up on the first full day of
Speaker 2: Trump's second term. Thank you so much for watching. Analyst
Speaker 2: Nielsen has had a front seat to all things Trump
Speaker 2: two point zero from the announcement of his candidacy all
Speaker 2: the way through to the election, and of course was
Speaker 2: part of an excellent cover if.
Speaker 1: I do say so ourselves, it's Sky News from the
Speaker 1: middle of the night to now the end of the night.
Speaker 1: Here many many hours later, she joins us now from Washington, DC,
Speaker 1: where it's just gone five point thirty in the morning. Mate,
Speaker 1: you are the energizer, Bunny, you just keep going. Well
Speaker 1: done made. Congrats to you the team and everyone else.
Speaker 2: Chris as well with this show has been absolutely fabulous
Speaker 2: and Tom with all the great details. So I do
Speaker 2: want to spend much of this conversation looking forward, because
Speaker 2: we've all done the highlight reel and people who are
Speaker 2: watching it this time in the night have seen it
Speaker 2: many times over. But what to you was most striking
Speaker 2: about being in that arena when there was not just
Speaker 2: the parade. There was a speech of course by the President,
Speaker 2: much more informal speech to one that he had made
Speaker 2: at the inaugural, but also those executive orders where that
Speaker 2: change that people had voted for. Am I sort of
Speaker 2: onto something here that they wanted it, so he gave
Speaker 2: it to them, and he gave it to them via
Speaker 2: a fire hose.
Speaker 13: I heard one journalists say that they were drowning in
Speaker 13: news lines, and I think that is exactly how it's felt,
Speaker 13: and it's because we've had the water cut off for
Speaker 13: so long. I mentioned this previously that news organizations when
Speaker 13: the Biden administration came in, they said that there's not
Speaker 13: going to be news broken on the weekend. So they
Speaker 13: had just skeleton staff at the White House on the weekends. Now,
Speaker 13: news will happen when it happens. And Donald Trump had
Speaker 13: that impromptu press conference last night, this is what people
Speaker 13: expect from the White House, and for four years they've
Speaker 13: had this kind of drip feeding of information from an
Speaker 13: administration that said that they were the most transparent administration
Speaker 13: in history. Last night, when Donald Trump had his press conference,
Speaker 13: his Press secretary Caroline Levett was saying, this is what
Speaker 13: transparency looks like, and that is true. As he was
Speaker 13: signing the executive orders, he was taking questions from reporters
Speaker 13: and he was really answering them. And so this is
Speaker 13: going to be the new normal. There will be news
Speaker 13: broken when it breaks, be reactive, and I'm sure it's
Speaker 13: not always going to be as amenable as it was yesterday.
Speaker 13: I'm sure there'll still be tense moments. We saw that
Speaker 13: in the past. There were times when we saw that.
Speaker 13: Apparently Donald Trump ordered every single journalist off the White
Speaker 13: House campus and his staff had to distract him because
Speaker 13: they simply can't do that. But what we are seeing
Speaker 13: is what the American people expected. And Paul, I tell you,
Speaker 13: for the last four years, when I've traveled around America
Speaker 13: and I tell them what I do, tell people what
Speaker 13: I do in Washington, DC, and they want to know
Speaker 13: all about it, the first question they'll say, is who's
Speaker 13: actually running the country. From today, everyone knows who's running
Speaker 13: the country.
Speaker 14: It's Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: And look again, what was important to see here was
Speaker 1: that the interaction with the reporters while he was signing stuff.
Speaker 1: It wasn't sort of a bunch of North Korean reporters
Speaker 1: which were saying, do you leader, why is everything amazing?
Speaker 1: Could you please tell us why you're amazing?
Speaker 14: It wasn't a rushing the questions measured.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was, or you're literally being called out.
Speaker 2: Remember Biden used to stand there with those cards saying
Speaker 2: I've been told I have to ask, and the whole
Speaker 2: charade that played out over the past four.
Speaker 14: Years, and the whole question would be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the garbage. So again, it is going
Speaker 2: to be fractious. There are going to be consequences to
Speaker 2: decisions that are made.
Speaker 1: There is going to be things.
Speaker 2: But something that I found interesting about the difference between
Speaker 2: when he came in the first time when he comes
Speaker 2: in now, is that built into the coverage, the word chaos,
Speaker 2: which was all sort of the key word for every
Speaker 2: decision and every thing, like those press conferences. That was
Speaker 2: built into the narrative of how everyone had to consume
Speaker 2: the news and that news at all hours of any day.
Speaker 2: That doesn't exist this time around, does it? Because not
Speaker 2: only does he know what he's doing, but he's got
Speaker 2: a professional series of people around him who were his people.
Speaker 2: He had to compromise with staff at the start, and yeah,
Speaker 2: he was bumping into the furniture, but he's got people
Speaker 2: around him, including the person who ran his campaign, Susie Wilde,
Speaker 2: who is an absolute genie at making sure you shut
Speaker 2: down leaks, keep things focused, and keep things on the
Speaker 2: message of the day.
Speaker 14: Absolutely.
Speaker 13: I think it was just the sense the first time
Speaker 13: around that everyone was so shocked they got in there.
Speaker 13: And I think having four years out of the place
Speaker 13: and it wasn't necessarily the worst thing for him, Having
Speaker 13: to fight against all these legal cases, I think has
Speaker 13: really focused him in on getting back in. But these
Speaker 13: are serious people he surrounded himself with, and that wasn't
Speaker 13: the assumption going into this. We've watched him with his
Speaker 13: appointments for the cabinet secretary positions. The business community is
Speaker 13: really happy with the people he's put in for, especially
Speaker 13: those economic portfolios. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 13: that's what Donald Trump wants. He wants to point at
Speaker 13: the stock market and say I did that, and every American,
Speaker 13: sixty percent of Americans have at least some kind of
Speaker 13: investment in the stock market through four oh one K
Speaker 13: retirement savings or some other investment mechanism. So this stock
Speaker 13: market does matter. There'll be people that tell you that
Speaker 13: this is a rich people thing.
Speaker 14: It's not. It's a really ordinary American thing.
Speaker 13: But also just having gas prices come down that is huge.
Speaker 13: I cannot tell you how many small business owners I've
Speaker 13: talked to over the last year, and when they all
Speaker 13: work on small margins and just put their heart and
Speaker 13: souls into businesses, it will often be the transportation costs
Speaker 13: the things that is the thing that kills them. And
Speaker 13: so to say that we're going to start getting oil
Speaker 13: drilling back, We're going to get in a position where
Speaker 13: we're not having a Russian oil going through around all
Speaker 13: these sanctions and actually costing the American tax payer more.
Speaker 13: At the end of the day, these are all things
Speaker 13: that are going to make a huge difference. And also
Speaker 13: just the signaling of Trump coming back in saying I
Speaker 13: care about business, We're doing this. We're going to see
Speaker 13: more investment coming into America to keep Trump happy. That's
Speaker 13: a good thing for Americans and it's a good thing
Speaker 13: for the economy. It's going to be what changes the
Speaker 13: tone of everything. Same with immigration. The tone matters, and
Speaker 13: he's already said that time.
Speaker 1: Well, and I remember I was watching one of the
Speaker 1: mini speeches in the middle of the night and probably
Speaker 1: on the phone. Are you going, what do you think
Speaker 1: of this? What do you think of that? We've talked
Speaker 1: a lot in the past twelve months. My apologies to
Speaker 1: your wonderful husband.
Speaker 14: But I want to know what you thank you.
Speaker 1: God loved you well.
Speaker 2: Is that Trump would make all of these announcements During
Speaker 2: the campaign. We would talk about that if you were
Speaker 2: a company that was operating outside of America and you
Speaker 2: brought your manufacturing base back to America, your corporate tax
Speaker 2: rate would be lower than anyone else's corporate tax rate.
Speaker 1: He's set a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2: But because everyone was focused on you know, well, trying
Speaker 2: to play the outrage playbook of twenty twenty or following
Speaker 2: the you know he is Hitler garbage that was being
Speaker 2: rolled out, they weren't paying attention to these announcements. So
Speaker 2: all of this has been foreshadowed, all of this has
Speaker 2: been promised. None of this to this point is any
Speaker 2: sort of a surprise. Yet the images that people will
Speaker 2: wake up to and the breakfast TV shows start in
Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes over there no doubt they will do
Speaker 2: the first bit about the speech and the second bit
Speaker 2: about Jesus by and pardons, and then they will eventually
Speaker 2: get around to the consequences of some of those decisions
Speaker 2: on day one, and people who had been put in
Speaker 2: jail in relation to what they did or what the
Speaker 2: government was able to convince a jury that they did
Speaker 2: on January the sixth, those people are going to start
Speaker 2: to come out of jail. They are coming out of
Speaker 2: jail as we speak. There are going to be attempts
Speaker 2: to remove people with criminal records who were in the
Speaker 2: country illegally, and that's going to be some messy pictures.
Speaker 2: So you can control things in a speech. You can
Speaker 2: control things when you're in the Oval office. But when
Speaker 2: the pictures are people coming out of prison or inevitably
Speaker 2: tears being shed as the person who is being booted
Speaker 2: out of the country, who should have been booted out
Speaker 2: of the country is being booted out of the country,
Speaker 2: how do you think that plays in the next twenty
Speaker 2: four hours.
Speaker 13: There's a reason Trump's doing all this on day one,
Speaker 13: because he has such good will built up at this point.
Speaker 14: And I don't say that to Fangol.
Speaker 13: I say that because this is the reality of this
Speaker 13: election result, the fact he got the popular vote, the
Speaker 13: electoral college vote, that he won every swing state, that
Speaker 13: people were so frustrated with Biden having such clear cognitive
Speaker 13: decline over the last few years and being told that
Speaker 13: he was fine, the deep distrust in government. Donald Trump
Speaker 13: is coming in on a high, so he's doing these
Speaker 13: really unpopular things now and then.
Speaker 14: He's going to move on and the headlines will move on.
Speaker 13: It was really anticipated for anyone who's been paying attention
Speaker 13: that these January six people would get a pardon. He's
Speaker 13: been saying this for years. He promised his base. He
Speaker 13: doesn't tend to let his base down on things like
Speaker 13: that that matter. The only thing he's really a sidestepped
Speaker 13: from his original hardline position has been around abortion. And
Speaker 13: that's because they took so many hits again and again,
Speaker 13: especially in the midterms. It was just kind of they
Speaker 13: had to see the writing on the wall. But this
Speaker 13: was going to happen. I think when you look at
Speaker 13: surveys around people's attitudes towards January six, the attitudes have
Speaker 13: still fall on party lines, but the intensity of those
Speaker 13: feelings has diminished as time goes on. It was a
Speaker 13: terrible terrible summer. There were riots in major cities across
Speaker 13: the country. There was a lot of destruction, and so
Speaker 13: a lot of people put that part and parcel in it.
Speaker 13: And for a lot of people, when we're talking about
Speaker 13: the fifteen hundred who've been charged in some relation to
Speaker 13: January sixth, a lot of them we're talking about commuting sentences,
Speaker 13: so they still will carry that guilty conviction. Many of
Speaker 13: them have done time, and so for a lot of people,
Speaker 13: they'll just say, look, it's time to move on. I
Speaker 13: think if there's one headline out of it that's going
Speaker 13: to hurt, it'll be the Proud Boys getting out, because
Speaker 13: people are still spooked by that element. But America does
Speaker 13: have a big history of this. Three hundred and twenty
Speaker 13: million people in this country. There are militias across the country.
Speaker 13: There are stockpiles and guns, and they fight for their
Speaker 13: Second Amendment.
Speaker 14: Right, let me tell you.
Speaker 13: So it's complicated, but I think in the flurry of
Speaker 13: news it will people will move on.
Speaker 2: Now, forgive me, I'm going to make you blush, but
Speaker 2: I want to say something. Sky News has got an
Speaker 2: incredible presence in the United States. Yes, we've got a
Speaker 2: lot of YouTube support over there a lot of people
Speaker 2: who love the reporting left, he's losing it. Lots of
Speaker 2: great stuff that we do, but years ago we didn't
Speaker 2: have an American correspondent. It was Analysi's idea to create it.
Speaker 2: And one of the reasons why it is so easy
Speaker 2: to be a person like me when you go to
Speaker 2: the United States is because of what we have built.
Speaker 1: And we've built that as a result of Analysa's hard work.
Speaker 2: And yes, everyone surges in for the Grand Final, but
Speaker 2: we have our a game there all day, every day.
Speaker 1: Congratulations mate, thank.
Speaker 14: You, Paul.
Speaker 13: And just while you're letting us say nice things, the
Speaker 13: reality is, I'm only here because my dad told me
Speaker 13: to and it's actually his birthday today.
Speaker 1: He's the one four.
Speaker 13: Years ago that So come on, let's go cover the
Speaker 13: Iowa Caucuses.
Speaker 14: You can do this. You should be a US correspondent.
Speaker 14: I'll help you make the pitch. So really, it's my dad.
Speaker 14: I love you.
Speaker 1: I love Mum to of course you don't upset Mom.
Speaker 1: We love you too, Mum. All right, thank you guys,
Speaker 1: we do appreciate Thank you. Analyse love your done soon.
Speaker 1: Analyst Nielsen, honestly, she doesn't phenomenal job in the US
Speaker 1: for us all day, every day, and yet it's been
Speaker 1: awesome to hang out with her. And she's just leaps
Speaker 1: and bounds, leaps and bounds, all right, quick break back
Speaker 1: with more, including more polling data showing a change of government.
Speaker 1: Very horribable here in Australia. Will it happen? Let's have
Speaker 1: a look at the data next.
Speaker 2: Thanks for watching late debate less than ten minutes away.
Speaker 2: Let's make the most of our time together tomorrow and night.
Speaker 2: Of course, Meghan Kelly our special guest.
Speaker 1: We love her. She of course played.
Speaker 2: A role in the rally just before inauguration Day. She
Speaker 2: was in and around DC and spent time with the
Speaker 2: Donald just before he became president.
Speaker 1: Again. Ple need to talk about with her, including pushing back.
Speaker 2: Against many of the lefty media that is around, and
Speaker 2: I look forward to talking to her tomorrow. New pole
Speaker 2: came out today regarding the election regarding the future of
Speaker 2: Anthony Abernezi. This one from the Turnbull Times otherwise known
Speaker 2: as The Guardian, and I got to say I generally
Speaker 2: like this pole because they ask interesting questions pretty consistently, right.
Speaker 2: I also like that they publish all of the data
Speaker 2: which means I can show you this now. Obviously, no
Speaker 2: primary vote is normally put out by everyone. In this case,
Speaker 2: it shows that the Labor parties vote is lower than
Speaker 2: it was the twenty twenty two election by about two
Speaker 2: point six percent. Also, the Liberal National Party's vote is
Speaker 2: up nowhere, not quite at the forty that other polls
Speaker 2: that I've shown you this week, and that's because they
Speaker 2: keep in things like other and don't know into their poll.
Speaker 2: Green's basically the same one nation basically the same and other.
Speaker 2: Now remember other can be everything from libertarian through to teal.
Speaker 2: So that other factor in some poles is at ten
Speaker 2: percent in their one is at seven percent, but just
Speaker 2: five percent of people sit in that don't know category. Now,
Speaker 2: remember if they split fifty to fifty and five percent,
Speaker 2: what's hard to do that. But basically let's imagine, well,
Speaker 2: you still end up in a scenario where the Liberal
Speaker 2: Party gets closer to forty Remember forty percent when it
Speaker 2: comes to its primary vote is where an average normal
Speaker 2: election would most likely result in a coalition win. The asterisk,
Speaker 2: as always is that seven percent. Where we're talking about tels,
Speaker 2: independence and a whole collection.
Speaker 1: Of other things.
Speaker 2: But also interesting in the polling that they put out
Speaker 2: is this graph here, and this is about.
Speaker 1: The national mood.
Speaker 2: Now, I mean, I'm happy to stand by their stat
Speaker 2: because we.
Speaker 1: Quote it all the time.
Speaker 2: But you may well have noticed that it was above
Speaker 2: fifty percent for month after month after month after month
Speaker 2: after month. That's the blue one at the top, and
Speaker 2: then the wrong track number has dropped ever so slightly.
Speaker 2: The right track number has spiked, which would suggest to
Speaker 2: me that we need a few more of these. But
Speaker 2: it is a trend that the Prime Minister would obviously
Speaker 2: be rather excited about. But then there's the information that
Speaker 2: kind of contradicts the information that they have presented inside
Speaker 2: their poll, including the current state of the Australian economy. Well,
Speaker 2: very signific number of people will say there that it
Speaker 2: is poor. How do you feel the economy will go
Speaker 2: in the next six months? Fifty two percent of labor
Speaker 2: supporters think that it's going to stay the same, which
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 1: Is bad, or fifty.
Speaker 2: One percent of Coalition people say the same. In fact,
Speaker 2: bigger number says worse. But interestingly that independent and other
Speaker 2: number put that together, we don't know. It starts to
Speaker 2: paint the picture if people think that things are going
Speaker 2: to stay the same, which has been bad or is
Speaker 2: going to get worse. None of that is good for
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister. Plenty more here to have a look
Speaker 2: at about an in and around this pole, and there's
Speaker 2: more polling data. As we get it, we'll talk about
Speaker 2: it and all the rest of it. Interestingly as well,
Speaker 2: we talk about election spending. Now, I must have overcarried
Speaker 2: one or two last night, because I presented a number
Speaker 2: to you that I think it was fifty billion dollars
Speaker 2: in spending. Thankfully, it is not fifty billion dollars in spending.
Speaker 2: That's already come up with Albo right now, it's about
Speaker 2: twelve point two billion dollars. But still we are not
Speaker 2: even at the end of the first month of the year,
Speaker 2: and the Prime Minister thinking that he can buy his
Speaker 2: way to your heart. He thinks that he's able to
Speaker 2: do it with promise to day billions of dollars and
Speaker 2: currently twelve point two billion dollars. Me think he's probably
Speaker 2: not done with spending, as we like to say, other
Speaker 2: people's money. Also worth noting too that politicians have got
Speaker 2: tens of millions of dollars which they are able to
Speaker 2: just dole out without really having to ask anyone. In fact,
Speaker 2: interesting reporting which was again served up today in the
Speaker 2: Financial Review. It says that all political parties, in fact
Speaker 2: all sitting MPs, have got a special fund of which
Speaker 2: they can personally say, donate to raffle tickets of a
Speaker 2: couple of hundred dollars, or they can fund promises up
Speaker 2: to many thousands of dollars. In fact, it's about twenty
Speaker 2: two million dollars of other people's money, which of course
Speaker 2: only means the people that are already there have a
Speaker 2: financial advantage to being able to campaign to stay there
Speaker 2: See tomorrow.