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Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and Whip with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: You guys know the style of music that I'm into.

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Speaker 2: I'm sort of into the fastest stuff.

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Speaker 3: And beat tempered.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sort of in the heavy metal, the ac DC.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm a bit of a I like a

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Speaker 2: bit of rock and stuff like that. Cosmic Psycho is

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Speaker 2: working on this show for so long though, you actually

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Speaker 2: you get, you know what, you get wrapped up Kate

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Speaker 2: and Taylor's with fever, you know what. I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to hear Katy Perry's news song. And then unfortunately last night,

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Speaker 2: I find myself going down an ariana grande rabbit hole.

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Speaker 1: Where's the rabbit holes go? That's a big one that.

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Speaker 3: That's the one I would be least inclined to fall into.

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Speaker 2: Well it's okay. So it's going crazy at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Marianna's voice and people are trying to work out when

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Speaker 2: she does.

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Speaker 1: Interviews why she will go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've always known, I think, well, she started

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Speaker 2: on children's television, didn't she was it Nickelodeon or the.

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Speaker 1: Disney Chaan, She's of that state that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so she has been always talking with the

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Speaker 2: higher voice. This is Ariana here.

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Speaker 1: It's been really fun.

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Speaker 4: I've been going to like three sessions a day, so

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Speaker 4: I basically I wake up and I and then I

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Speaker 4: go have lunch and then I sing more.

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Speaker 2: And for years people have been accusing you, that's not

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Speaker 2: your actual voice. Why are you talking like that? You

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Speaker 2: don't need to talk like that, because when she can

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Speaker 2: sit down and relax, kate and really let herself go

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Speaker 2: in an interview, she actually sounds like this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been writing a line. Maybe there's some more,

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Speaker 4: but I would like to do a deluxe at some point.

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Speaker 2: So so I'm trying to work out why she did it.

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Speaker 2: Now this this was quite a while ago. This was

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Speaker 2: her explanation doing an interview of why she does do that.

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Speaker 4: I've been speaking in a slightly higher placement than I

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Speaker 4: usually speak in because I've been doing a lot of

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Speaker 4: interviews all day and I'm trying to keep my voice held.

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Speaker 4: But it sounds altaining but raspy, si and chained, blasily,

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Speaker 4: like lazy and like gravelly. But I'm trying to please it.

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Speaker 2: Hell there, Okay, I said this is I thought that

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Speaker 2: that would put more strain on your voice if you're

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Speaker 2: trying to talk with a higher pitch.

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Speaker 3: Thought, now, but maybe when you're when you're speaking with

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Speaker 3: a higher pitch, you're more in your you're speaking from

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Speaker 3: a more nasally area, which is not affecting the voices more,

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Speaker 3: and the air is higher in your head.

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Speaker 1: You're using the nose when you're lower.

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Speaker 2: Did you do this on it takes too No? No,

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Speaker 2: nobody is this is singing when you get singing lessons,

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Speaker 2: because you also have to learn how to breathe while

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Speaker 2: you're singing, because your voice continually so okay, So there

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Speaker 2: was there's a there is a voice coach that's gone

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Speaker 2: online and said, Okay, I'm going to explain why Ariana

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Speaker 2: talks so high all the time in interviews. Have a

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Speaker 2: listen to this.

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Speaker 5: You learn how to sing and like get professional lessons

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Speaker 5: and everything. You don't learn to sing where you speak.

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Speaker 5: You learn to sing kind of up here, because even

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Speaker 5: though I can sing down here, it's not sustainable and

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Speaker 5: down the line, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna have vocal issues.

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Speaker 5: That's one of the reasons why Michael Jackson always spoke

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Speaker 5: in that kind of high voice. That high voice takes

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Speaker 5: the pressure off of your vocal cords.

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Speaker 2: I'm home.

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Speaker 6: There was Jason Jackson now that Michael passed or we

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Speaker 6: have is Jason.

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Speaker 2: That is why Michael Jackson spoke like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the only reason.

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Speaker 1: If I'm buying, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think there is merit to it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't he was saving his voice.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I think has happened to you?

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Speaker 6: When you're a child entertainer, you kind of you've created

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Speaker 6: a brand which is targeted at younger people, and to

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Speaker 6: relate to them, you have to maintain sort of that

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Speaker 6: smaller girl role. And I don't think she's fully made

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Speaker 6: the transition through to a singer and left that character

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Speaker 6: to behind. Miley Cyrus had the same issue. She was

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Speaker 6: Hannah Montana for a very long time, and she found

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Speaker 6: the same the whole time that she found herself caught

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Speaker 6: in the middle. Who am I a Disney character or professional?

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Speaker 1: No? Once she got on the once she got on

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Speaker 1: the gas after, did she really now she sounds like

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Speaker 1: a chainsaw starting up?

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Speaker 2: But she sounded like that the whole time. And this

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Speaker 2: is the thing. Ariana hasn't she hasn't had to break

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Speaker 2: away from her the childhood star like she's still to.

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Speaker 6: You suggesting for anybody in the media that might have

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Speaker 6: a big day of press.

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Speaker 1: They're doing a whole lot of interviews.

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Speaker 6: Maybe just out the day like this and that should

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Speaker 6: be able to see you out by the end of

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Speaker 6: the day.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you have to perform that night and you

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Speaker 2: have to sing, you have to sing in the key

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Speaker 2: that you're going to be singing that night.

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Speaker 3: And that's what people are paying for.

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Speaker 1: Sally Fletcher, go with the transition from child to woman.

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Speaker 3: I've been waiting. I was waiting for that, and I

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Speaker 3: thought it was very interesting that a man of forty

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Speaker 3: four from Rose Bay in Sydney with the worst haircut

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Speaker 3: I've ever seen it had had had quite a lot

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Speaker 3: to offer about what he knew about Child Stars and

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Speaker 3: the brand.

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Speaker 6: Unless your bum keeps popping balloons will not be cut.

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Speaker 2: When is that fully matured man child at the age

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Speaker 2: of nine? You are only to become mean.

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Speaker 1: Because have you got that grab of Milko? Like if

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Speaker 1: you put in Milko, need to do that again.

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Speaker 3: This is about don't don't don't make fun of Milko

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Speaker 3: and do not make fun of Sally Fletcher.

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Speaker 2: So that is the reason why Ariadi Grande talk so high.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for spending all that time in

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Speaker 3: your life you will never get back with.

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Speaker 1: Kate.

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