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Speaker 1: I'll get a term. It's a you project. It's Patrick

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Speaker 1: James and Tiffany Anne and Craig Anthony. It's your favorite

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Speaker 1: podcast in the world. You're welcome and here we are

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Speaker 1: for free. Fuck it, We're not going to charge you

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Speaker 1: this time. You're welcome. The giggling Gerdy as my mum

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Speaker 1: would call her, giggling Gerdy. Up in the top left

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Speaker 1: corner on my screen is Tiffany Ann Cook, who doesn't

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Speaker 1: have any typ representation behind her as usual, which is

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Speaker 1: fucking shit. Hi, TIV, Well, she's on the U Project

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Speaker 1: being paid by the U Project. No U Project paraphernal.

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Speaker 1: You're behind her?

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Speaker 2: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: When it's time to do our Patrick recordings, I get

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Speaker 3: this sensation that I used to get when I was

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Speaker 3: going on a sleep over with my friends when I

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Speaker 3: was in primary school.

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Speaker 1: Fucking hell, could you expand on that a bit?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just feel like, you know, I've packed

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Speaker 3: in my sleeping bag and we're about to get up

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Speaker 3: to mischief. When I used to do that, or I

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Speaker 3: used to me and my friend we had she had

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Speaker 3: this massive staircase that went down from the attic. It

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Speaker 3: was carpet and we used to get our sleeping bags

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Speaker 3: and make a sled out of it and go on

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Speaker 3: our knees and slide down. And we used to get

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Speaker 3: in trouble so much. And that's how I feel. I

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Speaker 3: feel like you're my new that friend.

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Speaker 1: Well, we can just slide down Patrick's METAPHORICX staircase. I

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Speaker 1: might let you two go first, because my knees might

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Speaker 1: not fucking cope.

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Speaker 4: Not I'm Patrick, but on my staircase it's a wooden

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Speaker 4: with sharp edges. You would end up with no knees,

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Speaker 4: raw timber, no cup in sight.

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Speaker 1: As life up in the sticks, up in the wilderness.

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Speaker 1: How is it up there?

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Speaker 4: It's so windy that it would blow the milk out

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Speaker 2: It has been blowing a treat.

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Speaker 4: I had cuting put on the side of my garage

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Speaker 4: as my big mega rebuild because I'm setting up my

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Speaker 4: Thai cheese studio and a little podcasting area.

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Speaker 2: And insulation was there waiting for the cladding.

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Speaker 4: And then suddenly get up by morning and there's insulation

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Speaker 4: all over my neighborhood. It's just blown away. It's got

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Speaker 4: in and under the noggins and everything. Because they put

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Speaker 4: it in, they pack it in pretty tight. You know,

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Speaker 4: they don't justly fit it, they make it snug. Well not,

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Speaker 4: that's because it's everywhere and now everybody's sharing my insulation.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever think about the etymology of the word

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Speaker 1: noggin because it also it's a colloquialism for head. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how did that come to be?

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Speaker 2: No, you know that's funny.

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Speaker 4: The builders were doing their work at one point and

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Speaker 4: they had to go in there for some reason, and

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Speaker 4: we got talking about building, and then I showed them

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Speaker 4: my hands, and I said, this is the hands of

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Speaker 4: somebody who thinks manual labor as a Mexican unionist, because

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Speaker 4: I've done these hands except type on a keyboard and

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Speaker 1: Well, you and me, You and me both, mate. I

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Speaker 1: mean I've got the hands like a fucking surgeon. That's

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Speaker 1: why God invented trades people people who are who are better. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're smart, they're like the crab is. The

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Speaker 1: crab is super handy. Like I always say, if you're

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Speaker 1: will build you a house by lunchtime, and I will

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Speaker 1: probably kill you and eat you so you know, just

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Speaker 1: pick your friends.

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Speaker 3: Choose I'd have to choose two people that I would

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Speaker 3: have to choose you to make sure that the crab

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Speaker 3: stays alive. Hahaps the lifeline perhaps the life line.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, you did the whole life him,

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Speaker 2: didn't you?

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Speaker 1: Who are you? You know? You know in American culture

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that term? Like Patrick's might

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Speaker 1: It's like, if I have to go to war, I'm

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Speaker 1: taking Patrick. Now, who's your person? Patrick? Who's your ride

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Speaker 1: or die? Other than us two? Which are obvious choices

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Speaker 1: They're going to show up.

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Speaker 4: I've got a good maid of mine who actually is

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Speaker 4: now in Europe, and landed this morning and was just

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Speaker 4: I hit a kangaroo just maybe three months after buying

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Speaker 4: the first brand new carb ever board. Well, Thomas, you

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Speaker 4: So he's a go to guy. But I've got to

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Speaker 4: say this. A friend of mine, her husband is the

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Speaker 4: He told me once he was out in the middle

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Speaker 4: know how he keeps driving? He put grass inside it.

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Speaker 4: He just stuffed it inside the tire. You know you

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Speaker 4: he just shoved it full of grass and he was

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Speaker 4: able to drive on it. Who would think of doing that?

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Speaker 1: I would have been dead and the animals would have

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Speaker 1: Who's your right or die? Tif that you'll go to

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Speaker 1: You're in the middle of any situation they're the person

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Speaker 3: Late Corney Devine. She lives in Perth now, but oh

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a Swiss Army knife of humans.

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Speaker 1: There's this movie with Ben Affleck I think it's called

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Speaker 1: We've got to hurt some people. We've got to hurt

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Speaker 1: talk about it ever again. And Jeremy Renner goes, whose

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Speaker 1: car are we taking? I'm like, I love that. I'm

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Speaker 1: All right, mate, let's talk about let's talk about the

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Speaker 4: I need to ask you all to remove your phones

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Speaker 4: hide them somewhere out of earshot?

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Speaker 2: This is really important.

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Speaker 4: Because we don't want anybody listening to what we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: I'll wait a minute, run, don't we I.

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Speaker 1: Was actually about to walk out and put my phone

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Speaker 2: I saw you're reaching for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm holding it. I'm like, oh, okay.

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Speaker 4: Well, we've all been in this situation where we've been

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, when I got onto my phone, ads

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Speaker 4: start serving up on things we were talking about. I've

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Speaker 4: never searched for them before, but I'm talking about cladding.

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I'm getting ads for cladding. I'm

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Speaker 4: Now it's you know, it wasn't an urban myth. Have

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Speaker 4: you had that happen to you before, Suddenly ads coming up? Well,

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Speaker 4: evidently this is a one of Facebook's major partners. So

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Speaker 4: an advertising agency has reported admitted that they actually listen

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Speaker 4: to people and spy on their conversations through smartphones, and

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Speaker 4: they curate ads based on the conversations. Now, this is

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Speaker 4: it's not just a random kind of article that was published.

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Speaker 4: And the thing is that when you think about it,

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Speaker 4: when you give access to an app on your phone,

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Speaker 2: You know, when you give permission.

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Speaker 4: So technically, yes, if you've given permission to Facebook and

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Speaker 2: But this is a new report.

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Speaker 4: It's from an organization called four oho four Media and

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Speaker 4: they reckon. They've got a hold of documents that were

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Speaker 4: called active Listening and it's software that uses they know AI.

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Speaker 2: We talk about AI all the time, but it captures.

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Speaker 4: Real time what they call intent data by listening to conversations.

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Speaker 4: This is a frightening thought. I mean, I don't actually

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Speaker 4: so potentially they still could be listening. But isn't that

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Speaker 4: a really frightening prospect that your phones could be spying

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: Think about also yet, one fucking yes, Patrick, Two, Like,

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Speaker 1: how many of us read the terms and terms of agreement?

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Speaker 1: Like when it's like I buy a new app, right

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Speaker 1: But I guess we are unwittingly be becoming accomplices in

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Speaker 1: they're endeavors to spy on us because we accept it.

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Speaker 4: And we give it away for free. Because we're getting

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Speaker 4: use Facebook, it's free. So all of these features and

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Speaker 2: There's got to be a payoff somewhere.

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Speaker 4: So the leaked documents evidently from an organization called the

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Speaker 4: Cox Media Group and the TV Radio Giant, but their

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Speaker 4: clients include Facebook, Amazon, Google, so the big advertising trio

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Speaker 4: going on there. So it does make you really wonder

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Speaker 4: and I don't know, a bit paranoid. We should turn

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Speaker 4: from an operational perspective, that it's good to turn your

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Speaker 4: But it's and I mean powering it down, not just

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Speaker 4: turning it off and on powering. It's another way to

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Speaker 4: apply all the fixes and all the software updates as well.

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Speaker 2: You need to turn your phone off to do that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so there you go. Folks, room careful what

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Speaker 4: If you happen to be working for Asio, you might

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Speaker 4: want to just consider getting a dumb phone, not a smartphone.

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Speaker 1: Can I share an anecdote that's it's related, but it's not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So here's here's my story. Notice I didn't wait for

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Speaker 3: The crab.

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Speaker 1: The crabs is about as high tech as a bowl

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Speaker 1: I love the crab. The crab.

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Speaker 3: Personality is the crab.

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Speaker 1: I've got a couple.

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Speaker 1: It's just like that that same bed affleck Jeremy Rana thing.

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Speaker 3: Knowing you have a subscription to the gym.

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Speaker 2: Certainly is certainly is, Hey, Patrick.

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Speaker 1: It can be less interesting. I know Patrick Sice. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: Let me describe Patrick. Everyone. He's got his hands behind

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Speaker 1: Oh that is funny.

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking people.

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Speaker 4: So I was getting back to the subscriptions, and I

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Speaker 4: I guess about those subscriptions because it can bite you

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Speaker 4: proud of myself. TIF, you'd be proud of me. It's

440
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 4: color coated as well. The line figure is in green

441
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: with red.

442
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 2: Letters, So there you go. That stands out.

443
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 1: What's the one thing that each of you knowingly waste

444
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: money on? And by waste money, I just mean spend

445
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: money on something that it maybe it gives you joy,

446
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: but you don't need it. It's like, what's the what's

447
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: the like? For me? Clearly it's fucking motorbikes, right, I

448
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: just have historically waste wasted stupid money on things I

449
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: often don't ride. What about you, tif, what's your what's

450
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 1: your number one money wasted?

451
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 3: I'd say, well, that motorbike I bought hits the list.

452
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: But aside from that, I do like to eat out.

453
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: So when I eat out, like breakfast in that I

454
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 3: don't go for the cheapest just to be you know,

455
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 3: because I love eating. I think I've always invested in

456
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: eating out.

457
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: I love it. Well, that's that's not a waste though,

458
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: because it gives you joy.

459
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's always with people.

460
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's a good investment. What about you, Patrick.

461
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 4: James, I'm a bit of a sucker for gadgets, you know,

462
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: tooth cleaning stuff.

463
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: That's on the list.

464
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 4: Just for those people who don't remember I talk tip

465
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 4: into buying the miracle bloody teeth whitening cleaning thirty seconds

466
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: the top and bottom.

467
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: And it was shit, wasn't it.

468
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

469
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: Appreciate only sixty bucks.

470
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 2: Actually, I might only cost me thirty bucks. Now.

471
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 4: Look, I'm a bit of a sucker for gadgets. I

472
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: love gadgets. But the other thing that's I feel really

473
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 4: funny admitting this. I bought a fountain pen in Europe

474
00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 4: for a thousand. In your ows, it's not yeah, yeah, that's.

475
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: Fountain peen thousand and that's like two thousand Australian dollars right.

476
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: A little bit less, but yeah close. Yeah.

477
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 4: Well what had happened was I've got some free accommodation

478
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 4: while I was traveling. I had all these euros burning

479
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: a hole in my pocket, and a friend of mine

480
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: who really loves to encourage me to buy stuff, and

481
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 4: I was at the airport and I saw I fell

482
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 4: in love with this pen.

483
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: It was. It's a beautiful, beautiful, handcrafted fountain pen. It

484
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: was a limited release, one of only twenty five. And

485
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: I love writing with a fountain pen. I write with

486
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: one every day. It's you know, I have a month

487
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: long fountain pen. And anyway, so yeah, so I bought

488
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: a pen.

489
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 4: It was probably the most frivolous act of spending extreme

490
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 4: spending up everyone.

491
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's do a one eighty on that,

492
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: and let's go, what's the thing that you bought that

493
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: could have potentially been shit which turned out to be

494
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: a great investment, like the one where it might have

495
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: been just something you bought and you went, fuck, this

496
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: is really good. It only I'm actually throwing myself under

497
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: the bus here. But Tiff bought me these gear thing is,

498
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: which I don't have in at the moment. Sorry, Tiff,

499
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: I just forgot. But I think they're only like thirty

500
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: bucks or something, Thank you, Tiff. But they're really fucking good,

501
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: like but thirty dollars a really good investment. So yeah,

502
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm very I didn't even pay for those, so for me,

503
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: that was zero, so fucking best of all time? Thanks TIV.

504
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: What about you, Patrick?

505
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 4: I was trying to think of stuff that hasn't really

506
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 4: cost a lot of money, that brings a lot of

507
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 4: joy or is really useful.

508
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm struggling a little bit. I don't know.

509
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 4: I tend to As I said, gadgets are such a

510
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 4: big part of my spend. I did buy something, you know,

511
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: I get sucked into stuff all the time. I bought

512
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: a thing called a rock block once on one of

513
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 4: those crowdfunding websites, and what it was was a rectangle.

514
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 4: It was a record player, but instead of you putting

515
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: the vinyl on top, you know, and a needle on

516
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 4: top and play a record normally, it was like a

517
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: little car with a needle with a Bluetooth connection and

518
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 4: it drove around the record.

519
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: OK when you said rock block, I thought you said

520
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: something else. But okay, okay, tipfoot about you.

521
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: Mine is this bad boy all right here? Remarkable. It

522
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: was cost me a fortune. It was like seven hundred

523
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: bucks or something. But I love I loved it. I

524
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: love it.

525
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: Tell people what we'll tell people what it is and

526
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: the application because maybe someone needs Do you know who

527
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: told me yesterday? She the exact same words were Karly Taylor.

528
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: She got one from Paul for I think her birthday

529
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: and she absolutely loves it.

530
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

531
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: It's just a it's a digital notebook and or a

532
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: digital paper. I don't know what you call it, but

533
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: ink ink yeah, and no other functions. So not an iPad,

534
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: no notifications, no bullshit. It just replaces a pen and paper.

535
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: Book.

536
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: It's brilliant. It's so good, but.

537
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: People are gone, So what why don't I just use

538
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: a pen and paper. I think you're not telling the

539
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: whole story.

540
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: Well, because you don't have to. You don't have shit everywhere.

541
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: You can file it away if you can, you can

542
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: pay it.

543
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: But you're not telling people that you can upload it

544
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: and stuff. Right.

545
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: Well, I was getting to that but interrupting you. If

546
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: you pay the subscription, which I did for a while

547
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: and then I stopped, you can email directly from it.

548
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: You can change your handwriting into text. It's got different

549
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: formats and backgrounds. And I have got an email yesterday

550
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: talking about some exciting new release which I didn't read

551
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: because I still love the one I've got and I

552
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: don't want to get sucked into buying something new. But

553
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: they've probably innovated it further. Now I've got the Remarkable too,

554
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: but for just a simple basic thing that seems really

555
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: expensive for what you're getting. Like as soon as I

556
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: got I thought I'm going to have buyer's remorse, but

557
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure there was a pretty lengthy return policy,

558
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: which is why I got it. And as soon as

559
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: I got it, I went, this is a just to

560
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: have a clean desk, not having bits of paper everywhere

561
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: for all your note taking so good.

562
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to shut up after this and let Patrick

563
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: run his show because it's his show. But my last thing,

564
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: which I didn't buy either, my mum bought. Now. This

565
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: is the woman who bought me a concrete gorilla once

566
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: right to put in my garden, So she's pretty bad

567
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: at choosing shit. By the way, that concrete gorilla that

568
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: had a flat bottom weighed about fucking ten k's so

569
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: it sat in the bamboo for a while. Then I

570
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: think I gave it away. But Mary bought me a backscratcher,

571
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: which is essentially like you know the area on your

572
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: car that you extend the old fashion ones. So it's

573
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: got a scratchy like little handle on one end and

574
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: it goes from about six inches to about two feet

575
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: or whatever that is one hundred and fifty mil to

576
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: like six hundred milk. Because I'm a bit of a

577
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: Neanderthal and I cannot scratch in between my shoulder blades.

578
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: It's the perfect gift. It's the gift that keeps on.

579
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: I use that motherfucker every day because it's either that

580
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: or rub up against a tree and I don't have

581
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: any trees inside.

582
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: Hey, have you ever used an orgasmotron? Studdn silence el,

583
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 4: I'm usually the one. No, I know what is an orgasmotron.

584
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: It's if you can imagine like these wires that basically

585
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: sit on a handle and you put it over your

586
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: head and move it up and down and it just

587
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: rubs and massages your head.

588
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: Have you seen it?

589
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: I'm sure you've seen them that There's got lots of

590
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: little filaments on them and they form like a claw

591
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 4: and you just shit down over your head and you

592
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: move it up and down and it runs through the

593
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 4: people who've got hair, and it runs through it just

594
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 4: massages your head. It was a I think that it

595
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: was called the brand was called a gaze Matron.

596
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: I thought.

597
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember where I bought it from. And

598
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: it's an amazing head massage.

599
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: It is a studio album by It's an album by

600
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: Motorhead or gas Matron.

601
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: Tried typing all Gazmetron head massage or.

602
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: Gas Matron head. This is great fucking listening for our listeners.

603
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: This is sorry everyone. Okay, yeah, there's a mish Okay,

604
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: there's like five dollar ones twenty dollars ones. All there's

605
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: battery operated ones. Okay, Oh there are ones with lights

606
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: on them too. Okay, now, all right, the mind boggers.

607
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: I love a good massage. I'm a massage slut, so

608
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: I might have to invest in one of those.

609
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: Especially, get the cheap one, the five, all the one.

610
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: You'll be right whatever, I'll just all right. I wonder

611
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: if they have sizes just to fit your head. Just think,

612
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: what are you saying?

613
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I reckon your head's got my mister potato head in

614
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: size fits all?

615
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 7: All right, move on, I think I look, while we're

616
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 7: talking about money and all that sort of stuff, scamming,

617
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 7: I picked up on a scam recently where people are

618
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 7: putting fake listings on like your Airbnb type platforms, and

619
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 7: it kind of stands to.

620
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: Reason it's probably not a bad idea to contact people

621
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: directly once you've made a booking, because what scammers are

622
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 4: doing is they're taking all the images and just reposting

623
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: the property online and getting people to pay their deposit

624
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 4: and then just taking the money because it's so yeah.

625
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: It's is just getting a slipperer and slipperier slope, isn't that, mate?

626
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, So just It's one of those be wary when

627
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 4: you're booking. Always good to talk to people. I tend

628
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 4: to like to contact people directly when you know I'm

629
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: booking stuff. But I'm just thinking that it's not over

630
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: the phone. You do use the messaging system in the app,

631
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: don't you.

632
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: So I got off to do a speaking gig in

633
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: South Africa, like all expenses paid, blah blah blah, we'll

634
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: fly and I'm like cool, and they're like, I said, yeah, okay,

635
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm interested. Let's do a zoom call. Nah nothing, Yeah,

636
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure. So like, let's set up a zoom call

637
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: so we can chat and crickets. Now, tell me about

638
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: that was only the week before last. Tell me about

639
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: which reminds me of my childhood. Gen Z being obsessed

640
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: with buying cassette tapes.

641
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: Oh, this is so funny because of course gen z

642
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: is don't know how to use a rotary phone, they

643
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: don't know how to use vinyl, they don't know how

644
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: to use cassette players.

645
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: But they're getting all retro interested and so the funny

646
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: story the article I read was this young girl put

647
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: on a cassette and then wanted to skip through to

648
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: a track and thought, how do I get to the

649
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: next track because it's all on the loop.

650
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: So I just chuckle to myself.

651
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: So it's we take a lot of the stuff for

652
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: granted to those of us who you know, lived life

653
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: of cassette players and doing mixtapes and all that sort

654
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 4: of stuff, But nowadays used to just send someone a

655
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: Spotify playlist, but to go from you know, song one

656
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 4: on the album to the last song on the album,

657
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: you had to fast forward. And it's just not computing

658
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 4: for young people who are used to just skipping and

659
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: pushing and jumping from one thing to another, and it

660
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 4: just tickle them a fancy that you know, retros come back.

661
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 4: If you can use it, you've got to go back

662
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: to Grandpa to ask how to use it.

663
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Speaker 1: Isn't it funny? How like for maybe one hundred years

664
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: we had vinyl, and then it just rocketed from that

665
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: to you know, cassettes to blue was it blue whatever?

666
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: Then we had the CDs. That's right, Hey, I'm watching

667
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: this show speaking of technology, which David Gillespie recommended. Just

668
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: from the point of view of looking at it's basically

669
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: like stepping into a time capsule. So there's a show

670
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: called Friday Night Lights and it starts. The first season

671
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: is two thousand and six, and it's have set in

672
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: this little town with this high high school football team,

673
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: which is a big deal, and all the myriad of

674
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: social constructs around that and all the fucking families and

675
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: relationships and coaching. But it's two thousand, so it's not

676
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: set in two thousand and six. It's actually filmed in

677
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, so season one is eighteen years old, right,

678
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: So they're all using these flip phones and they've got iPods,

679
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: and they think they're fucking living in the future with

680
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: their iPod and their flip phone. So there's no I think,

681
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: was it two thousand and eight Patrick the first iPhone?

682
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: Yep?

683
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think in season two or three, or

684
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: as I Nellie said, Susan two or three where one

685
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: of the kids gets an iPhone. But it's just funny

686
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: watching stuff happen where there's all this stuff going on

687
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: and nobody's got a phone out filming it, Whereas if

688
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: it was teenagers now and something was happening, everything would

689
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: be would be being filmed on their smartphone.

690
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: We'll talking about being filmed on smartphones and privacy. I

691
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 4: didn't realize this because they've only started introducing seat belt

692
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 4: cameras and phone cameras so that you can detect if

693
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 4: a person who's driving a car and hasn't got a

694
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: seat belt on and is using a phone. But to

695
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: do that, what they do is they mount the cameras

696
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 4: really high and they look down into the car. Well,

697
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: there are privacy concerns because you know people go for

698
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: a bit of a scratch or other thing and so.

699
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: Thing, what's the other thing? I know, Sorry, I'm just

700
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: looking for clarity for the listeners. Gives a story.

701
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: Look, our listeners have active imaginations.

702
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 2: They can work it out for themselves.

703
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: So the use of these mobile detection and seat belt

704
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: cameras and particularly they start off in Queensland, but they've

705
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: raised in the Banana state, I think four hundred and

706
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: nineteen million dollars in revenue since they were introduced.

707
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 2: So it's a fair bit of money that's being churned out.

708
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 4: But our privacy commissions there are saying, well, you know,

709
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: we know it's illegal, but this concerns because when they

710
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: take the photos detects whether or not it thinks that

711
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 4: they're wearing a seat belt or they're using a phone,

712
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 4: but then a human person, an operator has to then

713
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 4: grab that photo and verify whether there was an infringement.

714
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 4: The question is it's believed that some people might be

715
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: shuffling those photos aside.

716
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: They're not just looking and then throwing away.

717
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 4: They're kind of holding onto the photos and they have

718
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 4: their little black box of oh, there's some funny photos

719
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: we might send out to our friends, that sort of thing.

720
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 4: So that's the concern is there's no legislation in place

721
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 4: to protect the privacy of people. If they're using humans

722
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: for oversight to make sure that the find is justified,

723
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: then there potentially could be privacy concerns because people could

724
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: be doing stuff in the car that is not directly

725
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: related to using a phone or a seat belt.

726
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: No, well, I can't think of anything but thanks. But

727
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: it reminds me of the old days, Patrick Jones, when

728
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: you and I were kids and Tiff was just a

729
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: twinkle of a mum's eye, where we would take a

730
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: role of film to be developed, and then the people

731
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: at the developing places would look at our fucking photos.

732
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: I wonder how many copies of some photos got fucking

733
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Speaker 1: surreptitiously made and then just put in the old blokes pocket.

734
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: And I tell you that one of the best photos

735
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: of me as a kid that I loved the most

736
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: because of the thought behind it is there was when

737
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 4: Mum passed away, I grabbed all of our family photos

738
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: that were all in a box, you know, it's like

739
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: the albums with their stick on the place over the

740
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: top of them, and I.

741
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: Had them all scanned.

742
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: I had one of my staff and a couple of

743
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: people that, you know, a couple of guys that were

744
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 4: working after school, and I said, right, we're going to

745
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: scan every single photo high resolution share it with the family.

746
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: And then I found this photo and it was me

747
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: just standing at a chemist with like rows of films

748
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: behind me, and it's like, what a weird photo of

749
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: me just standing there with a green shirt, just you know,

750
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: instant kind of at the shot. And then it occurred

751
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 4: to me, you know what it was Mum's gone to

752
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: take the camera in to take the photos and realized

753
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 4: there was one more exposure left on the camera. So

754
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 4: she's just got turned around and said, right, geez, and

755
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 4: that was it. So this random photograph that she must

756
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 4: have taken when she was getting the film developed when

757
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 4: she realized there was one photo left and then.

758
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Speaker 2: There's me's danting at the chemeras looking like an idiot.

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Speaker 1: How old are you in that photo?

760
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: Maybe part of me? Maybe eleven?

761
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Speaker 1: I think I think you should do I think that

762
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: the story around that photo is worth doing something with

763
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: that photo because that is a really especially because your

764
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: mum's not here anymore and there's never going to be

765
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Speaker 1: a version of that again. That's such a good story.

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00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: I would like to say that do you still have

767
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: that photo?

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Speaker 4: I will grab it for you and I'll send it

769
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Speaker 4: to you because it's it's actually a super cute photo,

770
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: but it's you know, the in situus situation, and it

771
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 4: really and because mum had already passed away, and that

772
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Speaker 4: was the conclusion that I'd come to, it just made

773
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 4: perfect sense that it was the twenty four exposure, twenty

774
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 4: three shots have been taken and the person said, oh,

775
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: you've got one more shot left on the camera, so

776
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 4: she's just turned around and taken a shot.

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Speaker 2: It's cute, isn't it.

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00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: I think you should put that in the typ Facebook group.

779
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: Can you do that?

780
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: I will, I'll find it for you, I'll and I'll

781
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 4: send it off to post or I'll post it.

782
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: I'll give it the Tiff and Chicken post it for me.

783
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great. All right?

784
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: Moving along, my favorite band.

785
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: One of my favorite bands is a band out of

786
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 4: Las Vegas called Imagine Dragons, and you probably if you

787
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 4: don't know them, you would have heard of their songs.

788
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: They've got millions of songs that have been in movies

789
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 4: and the like. But they're going to become the very

790
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 4: first band in history to have one of their songs

791
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 4: played from the Moon. Now they're not going to the

792
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 4: moon and doing a live concert tour or anything, but yeah,

793
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: I just thought i'd clarify.

794
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: That I'm just not good because I was thinking of

795
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: might get a.

796
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: So what they're going to do.

797
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: It's part of the Lone Star Freedom Mission and they're

798
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 4: going to be flying with to the Lunar Pole and

799
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 4: then they're going to broadcast one of their songs. And

800
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: the reason they they picked this particular song, it's called

801
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 4: Children of the Sky.

802
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: It's a really great song if you get a chance

803
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 2: to listen.

804
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 4: It was a song that was composed specifically for a

805
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 4: game that was a sci fi kind of space adventure game.

806
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: So it was an amazing, really really great game. Great

807
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: great game to play because it was one of those what.

808
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: They call an open world game where you could travel

809
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: around and you fly from planet to planet. And the

810
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: video clip that went with it is so inspirationally beautiful

811
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 4: and it's really lovely. It shows a young kid as

812
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: they grow up and then they go into space. It's

813
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 4: really great. So I think it starts off with the

814
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: kid looking up at a rocket being launched and then

815
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: eventually he becomes an astronaut, and that's the gist of

816
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 4: the video clip with this great soundtrack behind it. But

817
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 4: the people who are behind the mission are saying that

818
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 4: they want to inspire the next generation of kids to

819
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: be excited about the future of space and technology, and

820
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 4: that's why they chose Children of the Sky. And so

821
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: they've never performed the song live, and they're going to

822
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: on October twenty seven, they're going to perform the song

823
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 4: for the very first time live. They're not included in

824
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 4: their recent tour for some reason. And now that they've

825
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: announced that they're going to be playing it from the

826
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: Moon that now they're going to do the song live

827
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: is at this upcoming concert in Los Angeles, and I

828
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: just it was kind of cool.

829
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: I like that kind of nerdy stuff.

830
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 4: It's interesting and fun and just happened to be one

831
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 4: of my favorite songs as well from one.

832
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: Of your favorite Why am I not surprised that you

833
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: love a band called Imagine Dragons. I'm not even sure

834
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: that you love the music. I think you just love

835
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: the name either.

836
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: The music's pretty good. I've been to two of their concerts.

837
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: I whenever they tour in Australia, I always make a

838
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 4: point to go and watch them play. In the first

839
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: concert I went to, I was in the mosh pit

840
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 4: and it was so loud.

841
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: My clothes were vibrating. You know. My T shirt was

842
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: just moving forward and backward.

843
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: Now taking a left turn. We revisit electric Is probably

844
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: every third or fourth episode. But China claims the world's

845
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: fastest charging av and of course, one of the problems

846
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: complaints I guess that people have is just the impracticality

847
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: of using electricity as a funel source, because you know,

848
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: it takes so long to fill your car so to speak.

849
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, a company called Zeka. They claim that the new

850
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 4: electric EV batteries charged faster than all of the other rivals,

851
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: the byds and the Tesla's. They say they can go

852
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 4: from ten to eighty percent capacity in ten and a

853
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: half minutes.

854
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: That's a game changer for a lot of people.

855
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: Isn't it to be able to give yourself a range

856
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 4: of an extra three or four hundred kilometers in just

857
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: ten minutes. That's pretty massive. That to me, particularly people

858
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: in Australia is a game changer. And you pointed out

859
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 4: I think in a couple of shows ago that Chinese

860
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 4: cars are really flooding the market at the moment, and

861
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 4: if you can get a decent Chinese electric car with

862
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 4: a range like that that can charge up so quickly,

863
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: that would be phenomenal.

864
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean it's just I think the

865
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: unknown around or there's a couple, but the Chinese cars

866
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: are becoming better and better. Like I don't own one,

867
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: but I wentn't looked at when I was looking for

868
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: cars a car, I went and looked at quite a few,

869
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: and I've got to say, the build quality and everything

870
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: is amazing. Like people go, oh, Chinese, everyone it says

871
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: Chinese crap. Most of the people that I've spoken to

872
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: have never driven one or owned one. And while historically

873
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: they have had some lemons, as did Korea, when they

874
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: started pushing out Kia and Hayundai, as did Japan, when

875
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: they started pushing out Toyota and Masada, as did everyone,

876
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: so did America. So did you know Italy with the

877
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: Alpha Romeo. There's a lot of shit cars, but overall

878
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: everything is becoming better and better, and there's not many.

879
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: There's not many cars these days that are bad because

880
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: if you're producing bad stuff in a time when vehicles

881
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: have never been more competitive, you're not going to last.

882
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: So but an interesting thing around this, and I'll shut

883
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: up after this, is that in Canada and I think

884
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: the US definitely, in Canada, there's one hundred percent tariff,

885
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: so if it comes in or tax, so if it's

886
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: coming in and it's thirty thousand dollars car, it's now

887
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars. So this is one of the things

888
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: I hope the Australian government doesn't because we don't have

889
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: an Australian manufacturer anymore. But what it means is for

890
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: the end, I'm not particularly partial to any particular nation

891
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: in terms of car building, but what it means is now,

892
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: like just from me on Nepean Highway is an MGD,

893
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: so in Brighton so they're selling brand new, pretty fucking

894
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: good cars for under thirty grand with a ten year warranty. Now,

895
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: if you're someone who really struggles financially to be able

896
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: to buy a new car, you lease it over five years.

897
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: It might cost you one hundred bucks or one hundred

898
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: and twenty bucks a week maybe, But you've got a

899
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: brand new car with ten years warranty. I mean for

900
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: some people that that is speaking of game changing. You know,

901
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: that's a game changer.

902
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: I just got to cut out all of my subscriptions

903
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: and I could afford.

904
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: It exactly exactly. You've got a good car. All right,

905
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Let's do two more stories and wind up over one.

906
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: You tell us where you want to go.

907
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: Did we talk about the space balloon the last time

908
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: we caught up? I don't know we did. Did we?

909
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't think we did. We may have touched on something, yeah,

910
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: but let's look, I'm the host and I can't remember,

911
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: so I can, but then I'm sixty So how.

912
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: This is super exciting because they're talking about launching flights

913
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six. It's the Halo Space is the

914
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 4: name of the company, and effectively it's a high tech

915
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: hot air balloon ish type thing that will take you

916
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: all the way to the stratosphere, so right on the

917
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 4: boundary of space. So you get balloon, you strap yourself in,

918
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: it goes up up. They're going to leave in Saudi

919
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: Arabia in a space balloon. And look, it's only you know,

920
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty thousand euro, which is about two

921
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand Australian dollars. It'll go up about

922
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 4: thirty five kilometers. But to me, I mean, you you're

923
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 4: gonna get a bloody good view of the Earth, aren't

924
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: you at that height?

925
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: And Google at Google Google three, Like, I've got a

926
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: great view of the Earth on my phone. It's my

927
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: bloody screensaver. One hundred what is it, two hundred and

928
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: fifty grand?

929
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 4: Nah, about two hundred and fifty I think's what about

930
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty euro?

931
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, and this is this is

932
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: like we're talking about perception and value and context. Like

933
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: for some people that would be the highlight of their life, right,

934
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: that would be some people would pretty much give up

935
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: everything to have that experience, to go to in inverted

936
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: commas space in the stratosphere. Yeah, but not utif with

937
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: that interest you.

938
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, nope, not a bit.

939
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: No, Patrick, If I went Patrick, you could be on board.

940
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: It's going to cost you thirty grand.

941
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 4: On thirty grand, yeah, I'll do it, really, yeah, thirty grand.

942
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even question it. I mean one hundred and well,

943
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand. Of course it's never going

944
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 4: to happen. But if it was thirty k, I'd sign

945
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: up tomorrow.

946
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: Well, space travelers, just around the corner and buy around

947
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: the corner, I mean twenty to thirty years.

948
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 4: But you know, maybe I think my because I think

949
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 4: we've spoken about this.

950
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 2: I have two bucket lists.

951
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 4: I have the achievable bucket list and the bucket list

952
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 4: that's never going to happen. And the bucket list's never

953
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: going to happen is walking on the moon, Okay, so

954
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 4: that's not going to happen and listening to a major

955
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: dragon's evidently, and the other one is my general you know,

956
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 4: I I'd like to go to Iceland and I'd like

957
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 4: to go to Paris, you know, those sorts of things

958
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 4: that are on that that you know, the standard bucket

959
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 4: list that you can achieve. So yeah, anyway, apparently apparently Reikiavic,

960
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 4: which is the capital of Iceland, is fucking amazing.

961
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: One of my friends, so Vinn, my mate, his kid Laura,

962
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: shout out. She went there kind of and fucking fell

963
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: in love with it. Like a lot of people who

964
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: go to Iceland, it's quite a special place, I think,

965
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: and fuck all, I think, tif can you just have

966
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: a look at the population of Iceland. I feel like

967
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: it's five hundred thousand or less, like it's not many

968
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: people in a very vast expanse.

969
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 4: When I was in primary school, I think it might

970
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 4: have been grade five, I saw a magazine that had

971
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 4: a photograph of the Aurora borealis and that's what sparked

972
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 4: my interest, because of course going to Iceland is one

973
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 4: of those locations where you can see it.

974
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: You get just get the number tien.

975
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 3: What says three hundred and eighty one thousand, but then

976
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: it says that's twenty twenty.

977
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: Two yeah less, yeah, yeah, and Rakie pick is like

978
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: most of that or half of that or something?

979
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

980
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: What are they the northern lights or something?

981
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: There is that in all then lights? Yeah? Or some

982
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: ounce and almos fire.

983
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 4: I took a trip to the Far Northern Territories of

984
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 4: Canada because you can see them up there as well.

985
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: And my family, my sister in law and my brother

986
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: live in Canada.

987
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: And I went up as far as I could go,

988
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 4: so it was two hundred k's out of the Arctic Circle.

989
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 4: And I was there for four days and it was overcards.

990
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 4: For four days, I couldn't see Jack. And then the

991
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 4: next week I left to go home and they had

992
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: the best aurora display. It was all the way down

993
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 4: to the Prairies and Alberta and Gallghery.

994
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: So I missed it.

995
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: So I mean, I did take some photos and I

996
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: think I sent them to you when we had the

997
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 4: Aurora Australis recently here. But I think I'd love to

998
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 4: go to somewhere, you know, like Iceland and check it out.

999
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: That would be pretty cool, wuldn't it.

1000
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 4: And you know what else would be pretty cool is

1001
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 4: that if you got trapped out in the middle of

1002
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 4: nowhere and you needed to call for help, Elon Musk

1003
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 4: might come to the rescue.

1004
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: Why go on?

1005
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So he's now This week there were a.

1006
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 4: Couple of articles saying that he's going to offer free starlink.

1007
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 4: So Starlink is his satellite based Internet service. He's going

1008
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 4: to offer free stylink for people stranded in the wilderness.

1009
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 4: Now that that actually could be useful for me because

1010
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 4: there are black spots all the way through where I live.

1011
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 4: My phone drops out constantly, and of course three G

1012
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: is being dropped out in Australia really really soon. Telstranoptus

1013
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 4: are dropping three G, which means a lot of people

1014
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 4: living in rural areas could suddenly find themselves without phone coverage.

1015
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is as you were talking about

1016
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: black spots and signal dropping out, you dropped out momentarily,

1017
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Patrick James, Patrick, James Bonello, Tiffany and Cook. It's always fabulous, Patrick.

1018
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: How can people connect with you? Stay at your joint,

1019
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: come and help you collect the insulation from the adjoining

1020
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: adjacent paddocks and help you rebuild. How can people get

1021
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: involved on Planet?

1022
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: You Planet?

1023
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 4: You can go to websites noow dot com dot Au,

1024
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 4: or you can go to Tyechi at home dot com

1025
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: dot Au and do tai chi with me. I've got

1026
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 4: videos there. You can meet Fritz the Tychie dog. There's

1027
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 4: lots of ways to connect.

1028
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: What's the ETA on the new studio bro.

1029
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: So close I reckon two weeks, have ordered the shower screen.

1030
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 4: The toilet can't go in until the tiling's done, and

1031
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 4: then the clouding gets put on. But the sparkys have

1032
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 4: been in. All the lights are in. Lads a bit,

1033
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 4: but no one's own. No, it's really really close. I'm

1034
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 4: super excited. So you guys going to have to come

1035
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 4: down and do some Tai chee with me.

1036
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of the toilet in the middle of the night,

1037
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: when you have a wee, do you just stand there

1038
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: in the dark and hope it goes in? Or do

1039
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: you sit down?

1040
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 4: I never get up in the at night to go

1041
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 4: to the toilet. My bladder is so perfectly trained.

1042
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: I never have.

1043
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's disappointed.

1044
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: I don't drink after six o'clock, so I don't have

1045
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 2: a full bladder.

1046
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: I have fucking coffee in bed, So don't do it.

1047
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: I do everyone.

1048
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: That's the way you get to the toilet, you do.

1049
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: For yeah, probably only get up once.

1050
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's about lights on, all lights off.

1051
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: I have a bright light and a low light in

1052
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: the bathroom. I put on the bright light and I

1053
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: stand like a fuck an hour for male and get

1054
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: half of it on my feet. And half of it

1055
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: in the toilet.

1056
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: You know that's funny you say that because I have

1057
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: a lance and a little lantern that I carry down stick.

1058
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: Are you one of the seven Dwarfs? What do you

1059
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: mean you have a lantern? Are you a Disney character?

1060
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: The fucking no one has a lantern. It's not eighteen

1061
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: twenty four. You're not in Ballarats, motherfucker lantern. Fuck, I've

1062
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: got a lantern, fucking said no one ever. No one's

1063
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: ever said to me I've got a lantern. It took

1064
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: sixty years. Today's the day I couldn't be more disappointed

1065
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 1: in you.

1066
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 6: Clarify, please, hell, yes, yes, okay, ruddy sleepy doc.

1067
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: It's really cool, right.

1068
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 4: The lantern has LEDs in it that glow, and so

1069
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 4: you hold it by a handle. It's a traditional type

1070
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 4: of lantern. If you turn it up the other way,

1071
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 4: it goes from the bright white to a warm yellow,

1072
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: and then it's got a little slider, electronic slider at

1073
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 4: the top, so you can dim it down or make

1074
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 4: it bright. So it's not a ye oldie lantern, it's

1075
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 4: a it's a high tech land.

1076
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: Here's a sentence that's never been said. My lantern's really cool.

1077
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: By the way, there's these buttons on the wall and

1078
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: you push them and the light goes on.

1079
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: Turned the light.

1080
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 4: Look, mister, I want to be like sunburnt as you

1081
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 4: get out of bed and take a piss, like why

1082
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 4: would you turn your lights on so bright that it

1083
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 4: wakes you?

1084
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: Told you I've got a bright and a loan light.

1085
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: The I've got the weeing appropriate light, which is just

1086
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: it's like mood lighting. It's been great. Thanks everyone, Thanks Patrick,

1087
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: Thanks Tiff, great finish. Just we're going so good now,

1088
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: that's not true. We weren't going any any good at

1089
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: any stage.

1090
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 5: E