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Speaker 1: I'll get a term. It's a you project. It's Patrick

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Speaker 1: James and Tiffany Anne and Craig Anthony. It's your favorite

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Speaker 1: podcast in the world. You're welcome and here we are

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Speaker 1: for free. Fuck it, We're not going to charge you

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Speaker 1: this time. You're welcome. The giggling Gerdy as my mum

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Speaker 1: would call her, giggling Gerdy. Up in the top left

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Speaker 1: corner on my screen is Tiffany Ann Cook, who doesn't

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Speaker 1: have any typ representation behind her as usual, which is

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Speaker 1: fucking shit. Hi, TIV, Well, she's on the U Project

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Speaker 1: being paid by the U Project. No U Project paraphernal.

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Speaker 1: You're behind her?

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Speaker 2: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: When it's time to do our Patrick recordings, I get

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Speaker 3: this sensation that I used to get when I was

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Speaker 3: going on a sleep over with my friends when I

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Speaker 3: was in primary school.

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Speaker 1: Fucking hell, could you expand on that a bit?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just feel like, you know, I've packed

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Speaker 3: in my sleeping bag and we're about to get up

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Speaker 3: to mischief. When I used to do that, or used

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Speaker 3: to me and my friend we had she had this

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Speaker 3: massive staircase that went down from the attic. It was

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Speaker 3: carpet and we used to get our sleeping bags and

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Speaker 3: make a sled out of it and go on our

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Speaker 3: knees and slide down. And we used to get in

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Speaker 3: trouble so much. And that's how I feel. I feel

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Speaker 3: like you're my new that friend.

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Speaker 1: Well, we can just slide down Patrick's METAPHORICX staircase. I

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Speaker 1: might let you two go first, because my knees might

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Speaker 1: not fucking cope.

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Speaker 2: Not I'm Patrick, but on my staircase it's a wooden

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Speaker 2: with sharp edges. You would end up with no knees,

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Speaker 2: raw timber, no cup in sight.

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Speaker 1: As life up in the sticks, up in the wilderness.

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Speaker 1: How is it up there?

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Speaker 2: It's so windy that it would blow the milk out

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Speaker 4: It has been blowing a treat.

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Speaker 2: I had cuting put on the side of my garage

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Speaker 2: as my big mega rebuild because I'm setting up my

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Speaker 2: Thai cheese studio and a little podcasting area.

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Speaker 4: And insulation was there waiting for the cladding.

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Speaker 2: And then suddenly get up by morning and there's insulation

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Speaker 2: all over my neighborhood. It's just blown away. It's got

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Speaker 2: in and under the noggins and everything. Because they put

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Speaker 2: it in, they pack it in pretty tight. You know,

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Speaker 2: they don't justly fit it, they make it snug. Well not,

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Speaker 2: that's because it's everywhere and now everybody's sharing my insulation.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever think about the etymology of the word

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Speaker 1: noggin because it also it's a colloquialism for head. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how did that come to be?

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Speaker 4: No, you know that's funny.

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Speaker 2: The builders were doing their work at one point and

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Speaker 2: they had to go in there for some reason, and

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Speaker 2: we got talking about building, and then I showed them

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Speaker 2: my hands, and I said, this is the hands of

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Speaker 2: somebody who thinks manual labor as a Mexican unionist, because

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Speaker 1: Well, you and me, You and me both, mate. I

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Speaker 1: mean I've got the hands like a fucking surgeon. That's

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Speaker 1: why God invented trades people people who are who are better. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're smart, they're like the crab is. The

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Speaker 1: probably kill you and eat you. So you know, just

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Speaker 1: pick your friends.

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Speaker 3: Choose I'd have to choose two people that I would

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Speaker 3: stays alive. Hahaps the lifeline, perhaps the lifeline.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, you did the whole life,

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Speaker 1: Who are you? You know? You know in American culture

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that term? Like Patrick's might

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Speaker 1: It's like, if I have to go to war, I'm

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Speaker 1: taking Patrick. Now, who's your person? Patrick? Who's your ride

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Speaker 1: or die? Other than us two? Which are obvious choices

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Speaker 1: It for them, there's nothing in it for them. They're

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Speaker 2: I've got a good maid of mine who actually is

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Speaker 4: So he's a go to guy. But I've got to

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Speaker 2: A friend of mine, her husband is the most practical person.

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Speaker 4: I think a bit like the crab.

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Speaker 2: He told me once he was out in the middle

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Speaker 2: know how he keeps driving? He put grass inside it.

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Speaker 2: He just stuffed it inside the tire. You know you

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Speaker 2: he just shoved it full of grass and he was

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Speaker 1: Not me? I would have been dead and the animals

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Speaker 1: the next day. Who's your right or die? Tif that

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Speaker 1: you'll go to You're in the middle of any situation

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Speaker 3: Late Corney Devine. She lives in Perth now, but oh

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Speaker 1: There's this movie with Ben Affleck I think it's called

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Speaker 1: We've got to hurt some people. We've got to hurt

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Speaker 1: car are we taking? I'm like, I love that. I'm

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Speaker 1: All right, mate, let's talk about let's talk about the

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Speaker 2: I need to ask you all to remove your phones

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Speaker 4: I'll wait a minute, run, don't we I.

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Speaker 1: Was actually about to walk out and put my phone

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm holding it. I'm like, oh, okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've all been in this situation where we've been

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, when I got onto my phone, ads

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Speaker 2: never searched for them before, but I'm talking about cladding.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I'm getting ads for cladding. I'm

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Speaker 2: Now it's you know, it wasn't an urban myth. Have

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Speaker 2: you had that happen to you before, Suddenly ads coming up? Well,

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Speaker 2: evidently this is a one of Facebook's major partners. So

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Speaker 2: an advertising agency has report admitted that they actually listen

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Speaker 2: to people and spy on their conversations through smartphones, and

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Speaker 2: they curate ads based on the conversations. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: it's not just a random kind of article that was published.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is that when you think about it,

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Speaker 2: when you give access to an app on your phone,

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Speaker 4: You know, when you give permission.

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Speaker 2: So technically, yes, if you've given permission to Facebook and

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Speaker 2: the go is. But this is a new report. It's

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Speaker 2: from an organization called four oho four Media and they reckon.

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Speaker 2: them and one of their reporters, and it's called active

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Speaker 2: Listening and it's software that uses they know AI.

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Speaker 4: We talk about AI all the time, but it captures.

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Speaker 2: Real time what they call intent data by listening to conversations.

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Speaker 2: This is a frightening thought. I mean, I don't actually

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Speaker 2: so potentially they still could be listening. But isn't that

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Speaker 2: a really frightening prospect that your phones could be spying

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Speaker 1: Well? Think about also yet, one fucking yes, Patrick, Two, Like,

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Speaker 1: how many of us read the terms and terms of agreement?

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Speaker 1: Like when it's like I buy a new app, right

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Speaker 1: But I guess we are unwittingly be becoming accomplices in

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Speaker 2: And we give it away for free. Because we're getting

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Speaker 4: There's got to be a payoff somewhere.

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Speaker 2: So the leaked documents evidently from an organization called the

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Speaker 2: Cox Media Group and the TV Radio Giant, but their

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Speaker 2: But it's and I mean powering it down, not just

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Speaker 2: apply all the fixes and all the software updates as well.

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Speaker 4: You need to turn your phone off to do that.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so there you go. Folks, room careful what

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Speaker 2: If you happen to be working for Asio, you might

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Speaker 2: want to just consider getting a dumb phone, not a smartphone.

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Speaker 1: Can I share an anecdote that's it's related, but it's not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So here's here's my story. Notice I didn't wait for

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Speaker 1: now this is going to sound like I'm making it up,

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Speaker 1: but this is true. This is absolutely hand on heart true.

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Speaker 1: So not yesterday, the day before I was talking to

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Speaker 1: It can be less interesting. I know Patrick, since everyone

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Speaker 4: I was just thinking people like this.

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Speaker 1: What's the one thing that each of you knowingly waste

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Speaker 1: just have historically waste wasted stupid money on things I

437
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: often don't ride. What about you, TIF, what's your what's

438
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 1: your number one money wasted?

439
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 3: I'd say, well, that motorbike I bought hits the list.

440
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: But aside from that, I do like to eat out.

441
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: So when I eat out, like breakfast in that I

442
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 3: don't go for the cheapest just to be you know,

443
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 3: because I love eating. I think I've always invested in

444
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: eating out.

445
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: I love it. Well, that's that's not a waste though,

446
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: because it gives you joy.

447
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's always with people.

448
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's a good investment. What about you, Patrick.

449
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: James, I'm a bit of a sucker for gadgets, you know,

450
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: tooth cleaning stuff.

451
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: That's on the list.

452
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: Just for those people who don't remember, I talk tip

453
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 2: into buying the Miracle Bloody teeth whitening cleaning thirty seconds

454
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: the top and bottom.

455
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 4: And it was shit, wasn't it.

456
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate only sixty bucks.

457
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: Actually I might only cost me thirty bucks. Now, look,

458
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a sucker for gadgets. I love gadgets.

459
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: But the other thing that's I feel really funny admitting this.

460
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: I bought a fountain pen in Europe for a thousand.

461
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: In your ows, it's not yeah, yeah, that's fountain peen.

462
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: Thousand and that's like two thousand Australian dollars, right.

463
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: A little bit less, but yeah close. Yeah.

464
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: Well what had happened was I've got some free accommodation

465
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: while I was traveling. I had all these euros burning

466
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: a hole in my pocket, and a friend of mine

467
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: who really loves to encourage me to buy stuff, and

468
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: I was at the airport and I saw I fell

469
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: in love with this pen.

470
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: It was.

471
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful, beautiful, handcrafted fountain pen. It was a

472
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: limited release, one of only twenty five. And I love

473
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: writing with a fountain pen. I write with one every day.

474
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: It's you know, I have a month long fountain pen.

475
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: And anyway, so yeah, so I bought a pen. It

476
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: was probably the most frivolous act of spending extreme spending

477
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: up everyone.

478
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's do a one eighty on that,

479
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: and let's go, what's the thing that you bought that

480
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: could have potentially been shit which turned out to be

481
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: a great investment, like the one where it might have

482
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: been just something you bought and you went, fuck, this

483
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: is really good. It only I'm actually throwing myself under

484
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: the bus here. But Tiff bought me these gear thing is,

485
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: which I don't have in at the moment. Sorry, Tiff,

486
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: I just forgot. But I think they're only like thirty

487
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: bucks or something, Thank you, Tiff, But they're really fucking good,

488
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: like but thirty dollars a really good investment. So yeah,

489
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm very I didn't even pay for those, so for

490
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: me that was zero so fucking best of all time?

491
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: Thanks TIV. What about you, Patrick?

492
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: I was trying to think of stuff that hasn't really

493
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: cost a lot of money, that brings a lot of

494
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: joy or is really useful.

495
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm struggling a little bit. I don't know. I

496
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 4: tend to.

497
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 2: As I said, gadgets are such a big part of

498
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 2: my spend. I did buy something, you know, I get

499
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: sucked into stuff all the time. I bought a thing

500
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: called a rock block once on one of those crowdfunding websites,

501
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: and what it was was a rectangle. It was a

502
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: record player, but instead of you putting the vinyl on top,

503
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 2: you know, and a needle on top and play a

504
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: record normally, it was like a little car with a

505
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: needle with a Bluetooth connection and it drove around the record.

506
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: OK when you said rock block, I thought you said

507
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: something else. But okay, okay, tipfoot about you.

508
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: Mine is this bad boy all right here? Remarkable. It

509
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: was cost me a fortune. It was like seven hundred

510
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: bucks or something. But I love I loved it. I

511
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: love it.

512
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: Tell people what we'll tell people what it is and

513
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: the application because maybe someone needs Do you know who

514
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: told me yesterday? She the exact same words were Karly Taylor.

515
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: She got one from Paul for I think her birthday

516
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: and she absolutely loves it.

517
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

518
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: It's just a it's a digital notebook and or a

519
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: digital paper. I don't know what you call it, but

520
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: ink ink yeah, and no other functions. So not an iPad,

521
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 3: no notifications, no bullshit. It just replaces a pen and

522
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 3: paper book. It's brilliant, it's so good.

523
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: But people are gone, So what why don't I just

524
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: use a pen and paper. I think you're not telling

525
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: the whole story.

526
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: Well, because you don't have to. You don't have shit everywhere.

527
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: You can file it away if you can, you can

528
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: pay it.

529
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: But you're not telling people that you can upload it

530
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: and stuff. Right.

531
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: Well, I was getting to that but interrupting you. If

532
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: you pay the subscription, which I did for a while

533
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: and then I stopped, you can email directly from it.

534
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: You can change your handwriting into text. It's got different

535
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: formats and backgrounds. And I have got an email yesterday

536
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: talking about some exciting new release which I didn't read

537
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: because I still love the one I've got and I

538
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: don't want to get stucked into buying something new. But

539
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: they've probably innovated it further. Now I've got the Remarkable too,

540
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: but for just a simple basic thing that seems really

541
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: expensive for what you're getting. Like as soon as I

542
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: got I thought, I'm going to have buyer's remorse, but

543
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure there was a pretty lengthy return policy,

544
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: which is why I got it. And as soon as

545
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: I got it, I went, this is a just to

546
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: have a clean desk, not having bits of paper everywhere

547
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: for all your note taking. So good.

548
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to shut up after this and let Patrick

549
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: run his show because it's his show. But my last thing,

550
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: which I didn't buy either, my mum bought. Now. This

551
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: is the woman who bought me a concrete gorilla once

552
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: right to put in my garden, So she's pretty bad

553
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: at choosing shit. By the way, that concrete gorilla that

554
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: had a flat bottom weighed about fucking ten k's so

555
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: it sat in the bamboo for a while. Then I

556
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: think I gave it away. But Mary bought me a backscratcher,

557
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: which is essentially like you know the area on your

558
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: car that you extend the old fashion ones. So it's

559
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: got a scratchy like little handle on one end and

560
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: it goes from about six inches to about two feet

561
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: or whatever. That is one hundred and fifty mil to

562
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: like six hundred milk. Because I'm a bit of a

563
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: Neanderthal and I cannot scratch in between my shoulder blades.

564
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: It's the perfect gift. It's the gift that keeps on.

565
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: I use that motherfucker every day because it's either that

566
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: or rub up against a tree, and I don't have

567
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: any trees. Inside.

568
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: Hey, have you ever used an orgasmotron? Studdn silence el,

569
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm usually the one. No, I know what is an orgasmotron.

570
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: It's if you can imagine like these wires that basically

571
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: sit on a handle and you put it over your

572
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: head and move it up and down and it just

573
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: rubs and massages your head.

574
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: Have you seen it.

575
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen them that There's got lots of

576
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: little filaments on them and they form like a claw

577
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: and you just shit down over your head and you

578
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: move it up and down and it runs through the

579
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: people who've got hair, and it runs through it just

580
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 2: massages your head. It was a I think that it

581
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: was called the brand was called a gaze Matron.

582
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: I thought. I'm trying to remember where I bought it from.

583
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: And it's an amazing head massage.

584
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: It is a studio album by it's an album by

585
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: Motorhead or gas Matron.

586
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: Tried typing all Gazmetron head massage or.

587
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: Gas Matron head. This is great fucking listening for our listeners.

588
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: This is sorry everyone. Okay, yeah, there's a mish Okay,

589
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: there's like five dollar ones, twenty dollars ones all. There's

590
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: battery operated ones. Okay, Oh there are ones with lights

591
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: on them too. Okay, now all right, the mind boggers.

592
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: I love a good massage. I'm a massage slut, so

593
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: I might have to invest in one of those.

594
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: Especially, get the cheap one, the five, all the one,

595
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: you'll be.

596
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: Right whatever, I'll just all right.

597
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: I wonder if they have sizes just to fit your head.

598
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: Just think, what are you saying? I reckon your head's

599
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: got my mister potato head in size fits all?

600
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 6: All right, move on, I think I look, while we're

601
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 6: talking about money and all that sort of stuff, scamming,

602
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 6: I picked up on a scam recently where people are

603
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 6: putting fake listings on like your Airbnb type platforms, and

604
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 6: it kind of stands to.

605
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: Reason it's probably not a bad idea to contact people

606
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: directly once you've made a booking, because what scammers are

607
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: doing is they're taking all the images and just reposting

608
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: the property online and getting people to pay their deposit

609
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: and then just taking the money because it's so Yeah.

610
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: It's is just getting a slipperer and slipperier slope, isn't

611
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: that mate?

612
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

613
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: So just it's one of those be wary when you're booking.

614
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: Always good to talk to people. I tend to like

615
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: to contact people directly when you know I'm booking stuff.

616
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: But I'm just thinking that it's not over the phone.

617
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: You do use the messaging system in the app, don't you.

618
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: So I got off to do a speaking gig in

619
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: South Africa, like all expenses paid, blah blah blah, we'll

620
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: fly And I'm like cool, and they're like, I said, yeah, okay,

621
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm interested. Let's do a zoom call. Nah nothing, Yeah,

622
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure. So like, let's set up a zoom call

623
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: so we can chat and crickets. Now, tell me about

624
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: that was only the week before last. Tell me about

625
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: which reminds me of my childhood. Gen Z being obsessed

626
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: with buying cassette tapes.

627
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 4: Oh, this is so funny, because of course gen z

628
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: is don't know how to use a rotary phone, they

629
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: don't know how to use vinyl, they don't know how

630
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: to use cassette players.

631
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: But they're getting all retro interested and so the funny

632
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: story the article I read was this young girl put

633
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: on a cassette and then wanted to skip through to

634
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: a track and thought, how do I get to the

635
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: next track because it's all on the loop.

636
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: So I just chuckle to myself.

637
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: So it's we take a lot of the stuff for

638
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: granted to those of us who you know, lived life

639
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: of cassette players and doing mixtapes and all that sort

640
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: of stuff. But nowadays used to just send someone a

641
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: Spotify playlist, but to go from you know, song one

642
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: on the album to the last song on the album,

643
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: you had to fast forward.

644
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: And it's just.

645
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: Not computing for young people who are used to just

646
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: skipping and pushing and jumping from one thing to another,

647
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: and it just tickle them a fancy that you know,

648
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: retros come back. If you can use it, you've got

649
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: to go back to Grandpa to ask how to use it.

650
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny? How like for maybe one hundred years

651
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: we had vinyl and then it just rocketed from that

652
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: to you know, cassettes to blue was it blue whatever?

653
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: Then we had the CDs. That's right, Hey, I'm watching

654
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: this show speaking of technology, which David Gillespie recommended. Just

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Speaker 1: from the point of view of looking at it's basically

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Speaker 1: like stepping into a time capsule. So there's a show

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Speaker 1: called Friday Night Lights and it starts The first season

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Speaker 1: is two thousand and six, and it's have set in

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Speaker 1: this little town with this high high school football team,

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Speaker 1: which is a big deal, and all the myriad of

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Speaker 1: social constructs around that and all the fucking families and

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Speaker 1: relationships and coaching. But it's two thousand, so it's not

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Speaker 1: set in two thousand and six. It's actually filmed in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and six, so season one is eighteen years old, right,

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Speaker 1: So they're all using these flip phones and they've got iPods,

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Speaker 1: and they think they're fucking living in the future with

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Speaker 1: their iPod and their flip phone. So there's no I think,

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Speaker 1: was it two thousand and eight Patrick the first iPhone?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think in season two or three, or

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Speaker 1: as I Nellie said, Susan two or three where one

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Speaker 1: of the kids gets an iPhone. But it's just funny

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Speaker 1: watching stuff happen where there's all this stuff going on

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Speaker 1: and nobody's got a phone out filming it, Whereas if

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Speaker 1: it was teenagers now and something was happening, everything would

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Speaker 1: be would be being filmed on their smartphone.

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Speaker 2: We'll talking about being filmed on smartphones and privacy. I

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Speaker 2: didn't realize this because they've only started introducing seat belt

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Speaker 2: cameras and phone cameras so that you can detect if

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Speaker 2: a person who's driving a car and hasn't got a

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Speaker 2: seat belt on and is using a phone. But to

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Speaker 2: do that, what they do is they mount the cameras

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Speaker 2: really high and they look down into the car.

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Speaker 4: Well, there are.

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Speaker 2: Privacy concerns because you know people go for a bit

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Speaker 2: of a scratch or other thing and so.

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Speaker 1: Thing, what's the other thing? I know, Sorry, I'm just

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Speaker 1: looking for clarity for the listeners. Gives a story.

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Speaker 2: Look, our listeners have active imaginations.

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Speaker 4: They can work it out for themselves.

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Speaker 2: So the use of these mobile detection and seat belt

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Speaker 2: cameras and particularly they start off in Queensland, but they've

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Speaker 2: raised in the Banana state, I think four hundred and

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Speaker 2: nineteen million dollars in revenue since they were introduced.

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Speaker 4: So it's a fair bit of money that's being churned out.

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Speaker 2: But our privacy commissions there are saying, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: we know it's illegal, but this concerns because when they

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Speaker 2: take the photos detects whether or not it thinks that

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Speaker 2: they're wearing a seat belt.

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Speaker 4: Or they're using a phone.

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Speaker 2: But then a human person an operator has to then

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Speaker 2: grab that photo and verify whether there was an infringement.

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Speaker 2: The question is it's believed that some people might be

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Speaker 2: shuffling those photos aside.

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Speaker 4: They're not just looking and then throwing away.

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Speaker 2: They're kind of holding onto the photos and they have

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Speaker 2: their little black box of oh, there's some funny photos

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Speaker 2: we might send out to our friends, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: So that's the concern is there's no legislation in place

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Speaker 2: to protect the privacy of people. If they're using humans

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Speaker 2: for oversight to make sure that the find is justified,

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Speaker 2: then there potentially could be privacy concerns because people could

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Speaker 2: be doing stuff in the car that is not directly

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Speaker 2: related to using a phone or a seat belt.

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Speaker 1: No, well, I can't think of anything but thanks. But

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Speaker 1: it reminds me of the old days, Patrick Jones, when

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Speaker 1: you and I were kids and Tiff was just a

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Speaker 1: twinkle of a mum's eye, where we would take a

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Speaker 1: role of film to be developed and then the people

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Speaker 1: at the developing places would look at our fucking photos.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how many copies of some photos got fucking

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Speaker 1: surreptitiously made and then just put in the old blokes pocket.

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Speaker 2: And I tell you that one of the best photos

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Speaker 2: of me as a kid that I loved the most

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Speaker 2: because of the thought behind it is there was when

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Speaker 2: Mum passed away, I grabbed all of our family photos

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Speaker 2: that were all in a box, you know, it's like

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Speaker 2: the albums with their stick on the place over the

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Speaker 2: top of them, and I had them all scanned. I

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Speaker 2: had one of my staff and a couple of people that,

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Speaker 2: you know, a couple of guys that were working after school,

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Speaker 2: and I said, right, we're going to scan every single

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Speaker 2: photo high resolution share it with the family. And then

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Speaker 2: I found this photo and it was me just standing

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Speaker 2: at a chemist with like rows of films behind me,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, what a weird photo of me just

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Speaker 2: standing there with a green shirt, just you know, instant

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Speaker 2: kind of at the shot.

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Speaker 4: And then it occurred to me, you know what it was.

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Speaker 2: Mum's gone to take the camera in to take the

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Speaker 2: photos and realized there was one more exposure left on

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Speaker 2: the camera. So she's just got turned around and said, right, geez,

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Speaker 2: and that was it. So this random photograph that she

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Speaker 2: must have taken when she was getting the film developed

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Speaker 2: when she realized there was one photo left.

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Speaker 4: And then there's me's danting at the chemeras looking like

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Speaker 4: an idiot.

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Speaker 1: How old are you in that photo?

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Speaker 4: Maybe part of me? Maybe eleven?

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Speaker 1: I think I think you should do I think that

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Speaker 1: the story around that photo is worth doing something with

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Speaker 1: that photo because that is a really especially because your

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Speaker 1: mum's not here anymore and there's never going to be

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Speaker 1: a version of that again. That's such a good story.

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Speaker 1: I would like to say that do you still have

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Speaker 1: that photo?

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Speaker 2: I will grab it for you and I'll send it

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Speaker 2: to you because it's it's actually a super cute photo,

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Speaker 2: but it's you know, the in situus situation, and it

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Speaker 2: really because mum had already passed away, and that was

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Speaker 2: the conclusion that I'd come to. It just made perfect

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Speaker 2: sense that it was the twenty four exposure, twenty three

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Speaker 2: shots have been taken and the person said, oh, you've

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Speaker 2: got one more shot left on the camera, so she's

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Speaker 2: just turned around and taken a shot.

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Speaker 4: It's cute, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: I think you should put that in the typ Facebook group.

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Speaker 1: Can you do that?

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Speaker 2: I will, I'll find it for you. I'll and I'll

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Speaker 2: send it off to post or I'll post it. I'll

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Speaker 2: give it the Tiff and Chicken post it for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great, all right?

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Speaker 2: Moving along, my favorite band, One of my favorite bands

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Speaker 2: is a band out of Las Vegas called Imagine Dragons,

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Speaker 2: and you probably if you don't know them, you would

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Speaker 2: have heard of their songs. They've got millions of songs

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Speaker 2: that have been in movies and the like. But they're

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Speaker 2: going to become the very first band in history to

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Speaker 2: have one of their songs played from the Moon. Now

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Speaker 2: they're not going to the moon and doing a live

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Speaker 2: concert tour or anything, but yeah, just thought i'd clarify.

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Speaker 1: That I'm just not good because I was thinking of

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Speaker 1: might get a.

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Speaker 4: So what they're going to do.

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Speaker 2: It's part of the Lone Star Freedom Mission and they're

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Speaker 2: going to be flying with to the Lunar Pole and

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Speaker 2: then they're going to broadcast one of their songs. And

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Speaker 2: the reason they they picked this particular song, it's called

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Speaker 2: Children of the Sky.

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Speaker 4: It's a really great song if you get a chance

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Speaker 4: to listen.

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Speaker 2: It was a song that was composed specifically for a

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Speaker 2: game that was a sci fi kind of space adventure game.

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Speaker 4: So it was an amazing, really really great game. Great

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Speaker 4: great game to play because it was one of those what.

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Speaker 2: They call an open world game where you could travel

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Speaker 2: around and you fly from planet to planet. And the

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Speaker 2: video clip that went with it is so inspirationally beautiful

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Speaker 2: and it's really lovely. It shows a young kid as

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Speaker 2: they grow up and then they go into space. It's

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Speaker 2: really great. So I think it starts off with the

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Speaker 2: kid looking up at a rocket being launched and then

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Speaker 2: eventually he becomes an astronaut, and that's the gist of

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Speaker 2: the video clip with this great soundtrack behind it. But

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Speaker 2: the people who are behind the mission are saying that

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Speaker 2: they want to inspire the next generation of kids to

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Speaker 2: be excited about the future of space and technology, and

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Speaker 2: that's why they chose Children of the Sky. And so

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Speaker 2: they've never performed the song live, and they're going to

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Speaker 2: on October twenty seven. They're going to perform the song

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Speaker 2: for the very first time live. They're not included in

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Speaker 2: their recent tour for some reason. And now that they've

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Speaker 2: announced that they're going to be playing it from the

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Speaker 2: Moon that now they're going to do the song live

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Speaker 2: is at this upcoming concert in Los Angeles, and I

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Speaker 2: just it was kind of cool.

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Speaker 4: I like that kind of nerdy stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting and fun and just happened to be one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite songs as well from one.

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Speaker 1: Of your favorite Why am I not surprised that you

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Speaker 1: love a band called Imagine Dragons. I'm not even sure

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Speaker 1: that you love the music. I think you just love

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Speaker 1: the name either.

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Speaker 4: The music's pretty good. I've been to two of their concerts.

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Speaker 2: I whenever they tour in Australia, I always make a

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Speaker 2: point to go and watch them play. In the first

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Speaker 2: concert I went to, I was in the mosh pit

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Speaker 2: and it was so loud.

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Speaker 4: My clothes were vibrating. You know. My t shirt was

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Speaker 4: just moving forward and backward.

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Speaker 1: Now taking a left turn. We revisit electric Is probably

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Speaker 1: every third or fourth episode. But China claims the world's

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Speaker 1: fastest charging av and of course, one of the problems

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Speaker 1: complaints I guess that people have is just the impracticality

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Speaker 1: of using electricity as a funel source, because you know,

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Speaker 1: it takes so long to fill your car so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a company called Zeka. They claim that the new

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Speaker 2: electric EV batteries charged faster than all of the other rivals,

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Speaker 2: the byds and the Tesla's. They say they can go

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Speaker 2: from ten to eighty percent capacity in ten and a

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Speaker 2: half minutes.

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Speaker 4: That's a game changer for a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it to be able to give yourself a range

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Speaker 2: of an extra three or four hundred kilometers in just

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Speaker 2: ten minutes. That's pretty massive. That to me, particularly people

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Speaker 2: in Australia, is a game changer. And you pointed out

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Speaker 2: I think in a couple of shows ago that Chinese

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Speaker 2: cars are really flooding the market at the moment, and

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Speaker 2: if you can get a decent Chinese electric car with

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Speaker 2: a range like that that can charge up so quickly,

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Speaker 2: that would be phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, I mean it's just I think the

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Speaker 1: unknown around or there's a couple, but the Chinese cars

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Speaker 1: are becoming better and better. Like I don't own one,

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Speaker 1: but I wentn't looked at when I was looking for

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Speaker 1: cars a car, I went and looked at quite a few,

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Speaker 1: and I've got to say, the build quality and everything

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Speaker 1: is amazing. Like people go, oh Chinese everyone it says

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Speaker 1: Chinese crap. Most of the people that I've spoken to

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Speaker 1: have never driven one or owned one. And while historically

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Speaker 1: they have had some lemons, as did Korea when they

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Speaker 1: started pushing out Kia and Hayundai, as did Japan when

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Speaker 1: they started pushing out Toyota and Masda, as did everyone,

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Speaker 1: so did America. So did you know Italy with the

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Speaker 1: Alpha Romeo. There's a lot of shit cars, but overall

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Speaker 1: everything is becoming better and better, and there's not many.

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Speaker 1: There's not many cars these days that are bad because

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Speaker 1: if you're producing bad stuff in a time when vehicles

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Speaker 1: have never been more competitive, you're not going to last.

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Speaker 1: So but an interesting thing around this, and I'll shut

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Speaker 1: up after this, is that in Canada and I think

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Speaker 1: the US definitely, in Canada, there's one hundred percent tariff,

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Speaker 1: so if it comes in or tax, So if it's

874
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: coming in and it's thirty thousand dollars car, it's now

875
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars. So this is one of the things

876
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: I hope the Australian government doesn't because we don't have

877
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: an Australian manufacturer anymore. But what it means is for

878
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: the end, I'm not particularly partial to any particular nation

879
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: in terms of car building, but what it means is now,

880
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: like just from me on Nepean Highway is an MGD

881
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: SO in Brighton, so they're selling brand new pretty fucking

882
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: good cars for under thirty grand with a ten year warranty. Now,

883
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: if you're someone who really struggles financially to be able

884
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: to buy a new car, you lease it over five years.

885
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: It might cost you one hundred bucks or one hundred

886
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: and twenty bucks a week maybe, But you've got a

887
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: brand new car with ten years warranty. I mean for

888
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: some people that that is speaking of game changing. You know,

889
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: that's a game changer.

890
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 4: I just got to cut out all of my subscriptions

891
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: and I could afford.

892
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: It exactly exactly. You've got a good car. All right,

893
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Let's do two more stories and wind up over one.

894
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: You tell us where you want to go.

895
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 4: Did we talk about the space balloon the last time

896
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: we caught up? I don't know we did. Did we?

897
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't think we did. We may have touched on something, yeah,

898
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: but let's look, I'm the host and I can't remember,

899
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: so I can, but then I'm sixty So how.

900
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: This is super exciting because they're talking about launching flights

901
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. It's the Halo Space is the

902
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 2: name of the company, and effectively it's a high tech

903
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: hot air balloon ish type thing that will take you

904
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: all the way to the stratosphere, so right on the

905
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: boundary of space. So you get balloon, you strap yourself in,

906
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: it goes up up. They're going to leave in Saudi

907
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: Arabia in a space balloon. And look, it's only you know,

908
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand euro, which is about two

909
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand Australian dollars. It'll go up about

910
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: thirty five kilometers. But to me, I mean, you you're

911
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: gonna get a bloody good view of the Earth, aren't

912
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: you at that height?

913
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: And Google at Google Google three, Like, I've got a

914
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: great view of the Earth on my phone. It's my

915
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: bloody screensaver. One hundred what is it, two hundred and

916
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: fifty grand?

917
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 2: Nah, about two hundred and fifty I think's what about

918
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty euro?

919
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, and this is this is

920
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: like we're talking about perception and value and context. Like

921
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: for some people that would be the highlight of their life, right,

922
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: that would be some people would pretty much give up

923
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: everything to have that experience to go to in inverted

924
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: Commas space in the stratosphere. Yeah, but not utif with

925
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: that interest you.

926
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, nope, not a bit.

927
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: No, Patrick, if I went Patrick, you could be on board.

928
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: It's going to cost you thirty grand.

929
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 2: On thirty grand, yeah, I'll do it, really, Yeah, thirty grand.

930
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even question it. I mean one hundred and well,

931
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand. Of course it's never going

932
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: to happen. But if it was thirty k I'd sign

933
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: up tomorrow.

934
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: Well, space Travelers, just around the corner and buy around

935
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: the corner, I mean twenty to thirty years.

936
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: But you know, maybe I think my because I think

937
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: we've spoken about this.

938
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 4: I have two bucket lists.

939
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: I have the achievable bucket list and the bucket list

940
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: that's never going to happen. And the bucket list's never

941
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: going to happen is walking on the moon, Okay, so

942
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 2: that's not going to happen, and listening to a major

943
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: dragon's evidently, and the other one is my general you know,

944
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: I I'd like to go to Iceland, and I'd like

945
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: to go to Paris, you know, those sorts of things

946
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: that are on that that you know, the standard bucket

947
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: list that you can achieve. So yeah, Anyway, apparently, apparently Reikiavic,

948
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: which is the capital of Iceland is fucking amazing.

949
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: One of my friends, so Vinn, my mate, his kid Laura,

950
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: shout out. She went there kind of and fucking fell

951
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: in love with it. Like a lot of people who

952
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: go to Iceland, it's quite a special place, I think,

953
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: and fuck all, I think, tif can you just have

954
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: a look at the population of Iceland. I feel like

955
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: it's five hundred thousand or less, like it's not many

956
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: people in a very vast expanse.

957
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: When I was in primary school, I think it might

958
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: have been grade five, I saw a magazine that had

959
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: a photograph of the Aurora borealis and that's what sparked

960
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: my interest, because of course going to Iceland is one

961
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: of those locations where you can see it.

962
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 4: You get just get the number, tien.

963
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 3: What says three hundred and eighty one thousand, but then

964
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 3: it says that's twenty twenty two.

965
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, les, yeah, yeah, And Rakie Pick is like most

966
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: of that or half of that or something? Yeah, what

967
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: are they the Northern lights or something?

968
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 4: There is that in all the lights? Yeah? Or some

969
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 4: ounce and almos fire.

970
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: I took a trip to the far northern territories of

971
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 2: Canada because you can see them up there as well,

972
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: and my family, my sister in law and my brother

973
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: live in Canada, and I went up as far as

974
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: I could go, So it was two hundred k's out

975
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: of the Arctic Circle. And I was there for four

976
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: days and it was overcards. For four days, I couldn't

977
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 2: see Jack. And then the next week I left to

978
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: go home and they had the best aurora display. It

979
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: was all the way down to the Prairies and Alberta

980
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: and Gallghery.

981
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 4: So I missed it.

982
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: So, I mean, I did take some photos and I

983
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: think I sent them to you when we had the

984
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: Aurora Australis recently here. But I think I'd love to

985
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 2: go to somewhere, you know, like Iceland and check it out.

986
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 4: That would be pretty cool, wuldn't it?

987
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: And you know what else would be pretty cool is

988
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: that if you got trapped out in the middle of

989
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: nowhere and you needed to call for help, Elon Musk

990
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: might come to the rescue.

991
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: Why go on?

992
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 4: Okay, So he's now This week there were a.

993
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 2: Couple of articles saying that he's going to offer free Starlink.

994
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: So Starlink is his satellite based internet service. He's going

995
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 2: to offer free stylink for people stranded in the wilderness.

996
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 2: Now that that actually could be useful for me because

997
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: there are black spots all the way through where I live.

998
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: My phone drops out constantly, and of course three G

999
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: is being dropped out in Australia really really soon. Telstranoptus

1000
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: are dropping three G, which means a lot of people

1001
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: living in rural areas could suddenly find themselves without phone coverage.

1002
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is as you were talking about

1003
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: black spots and signal dropping out, you dropped out momentarily,

1004
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Patrick James, Patrick, James Bonello, Tiffany and Cook. It's always fabulous, Patrick.

1005
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: How can people connect with you? Stay at your joint,

1006
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: come and help you collect the insulation from the adjoining

1007
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: adjacent paddocks and help you rebuild. How can people get

1008
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: involved on Planet?

1009
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 4: You Planet?

1010
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: You can go to websites noow dot com dot Au,

1011
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: or you can go to tyechi at home dot com

1012
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: dot Au and do ty chi with me. I've got

1013
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: videos there. You can meet Fritz the Tychie dog. There's

1014
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: lots of ways to connect.

1015
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: What's the ETA on the new studio bro.

1016
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: So Close I reckon two weeks have ordered the shower screen.

1017
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: The toilet can't go in until the tiling's done, and

1018
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: then the clouding gets put on. But the sparkys have

1019
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: been in. All the lights are in. Lads a bit,

1020
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: but no one's own. No, it's really really close. I'm

1021
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: super excited. So you guys are going to have to

1022
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: come down and do some Tai chee with me.

1023
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of the toilet in the middle of the night,

1024
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: when you have a wee, do you just stand there

1025
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: in the dark and hope it goes in? Or do

1026
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: you sit down?

1027
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: I never get up in the at night to go

1028
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: to the toilet. My bladder is so perfectly trained. I

1029
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: never have Yeah, well that's disappointed.

1030
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: I don't drink after six o'clock, so I don't have

1031
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 4: a full bladder.

1032
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: I have fucking coffee in bed, So don't do it.

1033
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: I do everyone.

1034
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: That's the way you get to the toilet, you do.

1035
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: For yeah, probably only get up once.

1036
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's lights on, all lights off.

1037
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: I have a bright light and a low light in

1038
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: the bathroom. I put on the bright light and I

1039
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: stand like a fuck an hour for male and get

1040
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: half of it on my feet and half of it

1041
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: in the toilet.

1042
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: You know that's funny you say that because I have

1043
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: a lance and a little lantern that I carry down stick.

1044
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: Are you one of the seven Dwarfs? What do you

1045
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: mean you have a lantern? Are you a Disney character?

1046
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: The fucking no one has a lantern. It's not eighteen

1047
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: twenty four. You're not in Ballarats, motherfucker lantern. Fuck, I've

1048
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: got a lantern, fucking said no one ever. No one's

1049
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: ever said to me I've got a lantern. It took

1050
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: sixty years. Today's the day. I couldn't be more disappointed.

1051
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 4: In you clarify, please.

1052
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: Fo hell, yes, yes, okay, ruddy sleepy doc.

1053
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 4: It's really cool, right.

1054
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 2: The lantern has LEDs in it that glow, and so

1055
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: you hold it by a handle.

1056
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 4: It's a traditional type of lantern.

1057
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 2: If you turn it up the other way, it goes

1058
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: from the bright white to a warm yellow, and then

1059
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: it's got a little slider electronic slider at the top,

1060
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: so you can dim it down or make it bright.

1061
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: So it's not a ye oldie lantern, it's a it's

1062
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 2: a high tech land.

1063
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: Here's a sentence that's never been said. My lantern's really cool.

1064
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: By the way, there's these buttons on the wall and

1065
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: you push them and the light goes on.

1066
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 4: Turned the light.

1067
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: Look, mister, I want to be like sunburnt as you

1068
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: get out of bed and take a piss, like why

1069
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: would you turn your lights on so bright that it

1070
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: wakes you?

1071
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: Told you I've got a bright and a loan light.

1072
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: The I've got the weeing appropriate light, which is just

1073
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: it's like mood lighting. It's been great. Thanks everyone, Thanks Patrick,

1074
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: Thanks Tiff, great finish. Just we're going so good now,

1075
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: that's not true. We weren't going any any good at

1076
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: any stage.