WEBVTT - Round 8 Takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe Storm and Rabbits interesting game from a couple of angles. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about South La troll Mitchell in full beast mode.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm scared. But wasn't it. As a fan,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd love to see matel do that every week, like

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<v Speaker 2>playing left center like he had Like so let's say

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<v Speaker 2>ten or twelve touches, scored multiple scoreboard of opportunities for

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<v Speaker 2>his team, line breaks, line break assists, and he just

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<v Speaker 2>played with venom like he had something whatever he had

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<v Speaker 2>in his week. Bioks that day do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Something special about those players who carry the ball in

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<v Speaker 1>their left hand.

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<v Speaker 2>And every time I see him do this, I think

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<v Speaker 2>Geezy needs to be closer to the ball. Mage of

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<v Speaker 2>his touches doubled. That means his efficiency turns double.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's what really took into fullback in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think fullback he's going to be part of

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<v Speaker 2>him from now on because Dufty's doing good. Gray's doing good,

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<v Speaker 2>but he needs to be able to move out of

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<v Speaker 2>that center and get more touches at different stage.

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<v Speaker 1>He tried way way back in the day old for

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<v Speaker 1>the Newcastle Knights at six I played someone someone said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really think he's got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks mate.

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<v Speaker 2>I played for the Roosters and he played six ones.

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<v Speaker 2>And he needs to be led into the brought into

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<v Speaker 2>the game. But he's old enough now to know when

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to come into the game. But Jesus was

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<v Speaker 2>a good performers like he inspired everyone else to play better.

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<v Speaker 2>Their best players souse on the weekend, Cam Murray, Cody

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<v Speaker 2>Walker and Litrell Mitchell. Then all of a sudden, Dufty

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<v Speaker 2>tell Us Duncan and a few other starts stand up

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<v Speaker 2>Jack White and has a good game. Oh we can believe,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can do this against Melbourne for a team

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<v Speaker 2>that hasn't won in Melbourne. They go down there, their

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<v Speaker 2>best players stand up. All of a sudden, it's raining

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<v Speaker 2>points for South.

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<v Speaker 1>Luck's of fortune, you know what I mean. And I

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<v Speaker 1>look at Maddie Dufty. He went away to England. He

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<v Speaker 1>sort of hit at cul de Sac here went to England.

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<v Speaker 1>Things didn't go great in England. He asked for release,

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<v Speaker 1>a grand him release.

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<v Speaker 3>He came back.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on train and trial, but all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>he arrives and he goes, holy shit, they've brought them

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<v Speaker 1>mountain to me as in all these rule changes, the

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<v Speaker 1>way the NRL has evolved suits me down to the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>But also going to England and you know, the Super

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<v Speaker 2>League for some players can be just that oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know I can get back to playing football, just

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<v Speaker 2>the simplicity and the genuine love of the game. Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's obviously found something. There's been multiple players who have

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<v Speaker 2>struggled to find their rhythm here, gone over to England

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<v Speaker 2>Super League and come back and are improved.

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<v Speaker 1>What they were incredible? Who he went over like he

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<v Speaker 1>said he was playing of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Struggling at the Knights, went over to Wigan, came.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, come back and genius. It's just been up and

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<v Speaker 3>up from there. But he was playing reserve great of warrings.

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<v Speaker 3>He was playing reserve grade of warrings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I thought Cody Walker was good too, like the

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<v Speaker 2>best left sided player we have in the competition. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>his body has let him down at different stages. I

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<v Speaker 2>fear like there is signs that Cody is getting back

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<v Speaker 2>to some of his movements.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a nice adjustment on the weekend and Cody loves

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<v Speaker 1>the sweep sequence and a lot of times I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching Cody how he game of all times last year

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<v Speaker 1>he was deep on the sweep, which allowed the opposition

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of hold themselves then give them times to

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<v Speaker 1>release on the outside. Man, if you watch this game

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<v Speaker 1>a number of times in this game, he's done the adjust.

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<v Speaker 1>See how he's he's tighter and he's flat at and

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<v Speaker 1>what that means is he's more dangerous. He's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be accounted for. And you see he's so tight. The

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<v Speaker 1>teams are squeezing in outside in, and that's cret the

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<v Speaker 1>next outside space for La trail.

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<v Speaker 2>His eyes tell him what the defense is going to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and he has a very good reaction of doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>so that time, if the defense is passive, he hits

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<v Speaker 2>the ball on a bit more speed because he knows

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<v Speaker 2>he can get to the outside of his target defender.

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<v Speaker 2>If he feels like that defense is going to jam

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<v Speaker 2>in like that first option, he sort of slows up

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<v Speaker 2>when he's run to be able to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>outside shoulder and skip pass. It's a very good skill

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<v Speaker 2>to have because how many times do we see outside

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<v Speaker 2>in defense they stop a half before they get the

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<v Speaker 2>pass away. Cody gets passed away most of the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's just what you said there.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're sitting on that line and you just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to get an angle right there you go,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ, sorry, Lord is coming around like this, And

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<v Speaker 1>you said before about on that sweep, he's just creeping around.

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<v Speaker 1>And the bloker was the genius of that. Who make

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<v Speaker 1>you play with Billy Slater coming around. I remember watching

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<v Speaker 1>Billy sometimes and heat idle, and if he sensed that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to come out of line, he just straight

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<v Speaker 1>He basically goes straight across.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. He called it a web block.

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<v Speaker 2>So hard to describe here, but if you run on

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<v Speaker 2>a forty five degree angle, which most people do at

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<v Speaker 2>the back of shape, it means you're going towards the defense,

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<v Speaker 2>which means if they're coming in that time to get

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<v Speaker 2>the pass across is going to be extremely hard. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you can drift sideways on a defender come into you,

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<v Speaker 2>it actually give you a split second more time to

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<v Speaker 2>get the ball in your hands and across. So Billy

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<v Speaker 2>in his early stages he was just running fast out

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<v Speaker 2>the back and then he was catching people out. Then

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<v Speaker 2>defensess started rushing him, so he had to it just

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<v Speaker 2>on the way. And I think Cody Walker is doing

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more of that now in his older age,

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<v Speaker 2>because he probably doesn't have the speed, so he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a very good ability to know when a team has

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<v Speaker 2>been passive, defensively or aggressive, and he's got to count

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone acknowledges how well Souse a playing at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment where they're going, But the main storyline out

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<v Speaker 1>of this has been the Melbourne storm, which is overshadowed.

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<v Speaker 3>How good South work.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the best performance I've seen from South in a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. Like we've seen glimpses of brilliance from them,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it was elite.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask you something. And while sitting with

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<v Speaker 1>my two young lays last night, we're having just a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of discussion about this. So we have a look

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<v Speaker 1>where Melbourne are at the moment coops, and we have a

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<v Speaker 1>look at.

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<v Speaker 3>Where South were last year. So South last year.

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<v Speaker 1>With Wayne unprecedented injury crisis, you know, all their key

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<v Speaker 1>players out, having to bring young guys in everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I get the sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the sense about halfway through that season that

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne went, you know what, there's a lot gun. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to be our season. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>whip these blokes. I'm not going to waste my army

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<v Speaker 1>to fight this losing battle. We're going to start to

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<v Speaker 1>blood some young guys. I'm going to wrest some other

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Campbell, Grahame, you like, basically took more time

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<v Speaker 1>off Cam Murray, all these guys. Everything was built towards

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<v Speaker 1>this season. Wayne recognized in the last year circumstances weren't forced,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't going to be their year, and he rather

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<v Speaker 1>than whip the team into shape or really pressure him,

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<v Speaker 1>he just took took his hands off him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You saying that's what Bellamy and the Storm should do.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm asking for you, Coop. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think do you think if you if the Storm get

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<v Speaker 1>two thirds of the way through this season and everything

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<v Speaker 1>is just to struggle and they're you know, they're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>not too far further north than they are right at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment of the ladder, do you think bellyk has

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<v Speaker 1>that in him to under.

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<v Speaker 2>Should answer no, Like every game is an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>win every game. You've got to be your best version

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<v Speaker 2>of yourself right this whole. Like, Nah, let's just take

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<v Speaker 2>it easy for a period and set for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks time isn't in his blood. It simply is not.

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<v Speaker 2>I get why people start thinking like that, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is Penrith last year, Like people were saying, yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Penrith needed just you know, maybe it's not our year.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Hell no, Hell no.

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<v Speaker 2>They stayed stoic and believed that their game style was

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that was going to get them out. And

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's where Melbourne at right now. They're

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling with two Grand Final losses. They're wrestling with are

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<v Speaker 2>we still good enough? But I feel like you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to be stoic, brave and stay strong because if you

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<v Speaker 2>start changing now, you will go worse. Like I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that because you've spent what four or five months

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get ready the rule changes come into play

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe caught a couple of teams on the hop.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you start shifting now, well you'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>either get very lucky, catch fire, or you're throwing out

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<v Speaker 2>what your DNA is. And Melbourne Storm's DNA has been good.

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<v Speaker 3>For a long time, long time.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not trying to tell me you change one rule

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple of injuries or retirements, but you're not

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<v Speaker 2>good enough. Anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got the Dolphins this week and without your own

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<v Speaker 1>hues and what Melbourne are finding at the moment, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these players are in this side have inherited.

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<v Speaker 1>This is that you blokes, the Melbourne Storm have beat

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<v Speaker 1>so many teams up in the last twenty years that

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<v Speaker 1>now all of a sudden, some of these sides are going, right,

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<v Speaker 1>are you?

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<v Speaker 3>This is hey, this is payback.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to punish you, guys, and mostly guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Joe chan That guys, guys, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I'm just right. That was definitely in the makeup

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<v Speaker 2>of the trell It was in the makeup of Cody

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<v Speaker 2>every time South Sydney scored, like Talas Duncan was given

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<v Speaker 2>monster at Bath, like there was just something in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the venomin which they played with Tallas Duncan.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Talus Duncan.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets his bumpers up, scores and then what's your action

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<v Speaker 2>straight back at him, like I got one of the

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<v Speaker 2>better players in this competition. I'm going to come for

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<v Speaker 2>him again.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's great. I love I love that in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Dallas Duncan to the point that he's physical

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<v Speaker 2>in contact. He never missed his assignment and from a

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<v Speaker 2>half backs point of view, he's sent me to perfect

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<v Speaker 2>with his time and it just gives months or a.

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<v Speaker 3>Godful like he could play a tealist.

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<v Speaker 2>But what would you do, Like let's say Bellamy rings

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<v Speaker 2>you tomorrow and says.

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<v Speaker 1>More to the point, I'd ask you because you watch

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've been part of this club and you've

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<v Speaker 1>worked with Bellie. Because I'm looking at the moment Craig's

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<v Speaker 1>walking into the press conference and he's just he's been

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<v Speaker 1>like I've never.

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<v Speaker 3>Said he he looks he looks really tired.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks frustrated, of course, but he looks really fatigued,

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<v Speaker 1>looks really tired. Yeah, as far as the side is concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a confidence, is a motivation?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it tactical? Is it roster? Is it real change?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's a bit of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Craig bell who is the most influential person of that club,

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<v Speaker 2>if he can fix his own belief in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>this is possible to get back a bit like what

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<v Speaker 2>Ivan did at Penrith last year, filter that down to Nathan,

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<v Speaker 2>which he did, filter it down to Monster like there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's enough there. Yeah, I think absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 3>Coops Broncos and Bulldogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Geez I said, firstly, Broncos are playing great football, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of injuries. Mad just just obviously catching the pants

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<v Speaker 1>off him. Adam Reynolds, mate, the old lace just wound

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<v Speaker 1>back the clock and must the speed and frenetic nature

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<v Speaker 1>is just shell and pood.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a master class in last play options against

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<v Speaker 2>the Dogs, Like he had an option in his head

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<v Speaker 2>like a high kick for example, and then saw that

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<v Speaker 2>the back three was separated by space. The amount of

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<v Speaker 2>times he just dinked it in behind got the repeat

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<v Speaker 2>set and the Broncos scored a net set like not

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<v Speaker 2>too many people will notice that. They will just marvel

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<v Speaker 2>at the try, but if he kicks that ball high,

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<v Speaker 2>the Broncos probably don't score that try. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>was outstanding. And we've spoken to about Ezra Man. He

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<v Speaker 2>lacks finesse and ballplay, like he gets a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>too frantic with his running and because he's so dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>But some of his ballplay and I think is the

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<v Speaker 2>best that he has delivered in his career. His first

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<v Speaker 2>pass here, that is the best pass I've seen as Ramsrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Coper, like Reese's Hollywood Reese Walsh. But I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm of the opinion I think Ezra is as important

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<v Speaker 1>as Reese Walsh. I think both of those blokes as

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<v Speaker 1>a combination, the energy they bring to the football side,

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<v Speaker 1>they are the perfect foil for Adam Reynolds.

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<v Speaker 2>See sometimes when he moves fast, he moves fast with

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<v Speaker 2>his hands, there's not a subtle stopper or control. But

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<v Speaker 2>in these highlights he's still moving fast, but still has

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<v Speaker 2>a soft touch with the hands because sometimes he can

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<v Speaker 2>get a bit flustered. And I don't overcook it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was. It was good ballplayer.

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<v Speaker 1>The other night, just on the Bulldogs, right, and whenever

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about the Bulldogs, nearly all the discussion

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<v Speaker 1>around the Bulldogs, we talk about attack, right, but we

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<v Speaker 1>just have a look at defense for a second. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>how did they beat the Panthers. They didn't beat the

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers that night on the back of great attack. They

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Panthers by suffocating defense. Now in this game

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<v Speaker 1>the other night against the Broncos, some of the stuff defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>I just found a little bit puzzling.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of tries.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the second and third try for

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 3>Just squeezing in impossibly.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's the right word, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>basically pre empty, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's almost like Montoya gave a lot of space

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<v Speaker 2>to Carapin in the other night, and it was almost

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<v Speaker 2>arrogant to the point that said, you can't get the

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<v Speaker 2>ball to him, like it was telegraphed that that was

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity this one here, you know, combination work, just

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<v Speaker 2>being in too far giving space to Marner do his thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like there's I'm with you. Whatever they

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<v Speaker 2>did against Penrith last two weeks ago, it's almost been

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<v Speaker 2>wiped off with their credentials again because they've gone back

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<v Speaker 2>to some really bad defensive habits. The Dogs for me,

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<v Speaker 2>are not the best attacking team, but if they're the

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<v Speaker 2>best defensive team, they can finish top four. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they've got to get back to what they're good at

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<v Speaker 2>instead instead of trying to improve the other areas so

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<v Speaker 2>much that they can get confidence from the attack.

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<v Speaker 1>Coub only eight rounds in, but some of these sides

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<v Speaker 1>now we've got to start to get themselves going.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We spoke about Penrith before because last year wasn't so

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<v Speaker 1>much of an unorthodox competition like this year, we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the competition in some way, teams basically really benefiting from

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<v Speaker 1>the real change. There's less spots up for grabs the

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<v Speaker 1>back end of the year. Well, if you run through

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<v Speaker 1>Penrith's going to play finals. Yes, I did list the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. I had six teams in.

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<v Speaker 2>My O people already locked in, that are locked in.

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<v Speaker 1>And then another couple that you go and it could

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<v Speaker 1>be but then all of a sudden you've got teams

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<v Speaker 1>that are outside at the moment, like Storms.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got Storm, You've got.

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<v Speaker 1>Sharks, You've got the Dogs, and there's a number of

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<v Speaker 1>other teams there as well. Other teams that are improving

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<v Speaker 1>are coming out, so mate teams like the Storm, the Dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got to get their season going.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, And I don't know whether the change of

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<v Speaker 2>the rule has had that big of an impact or not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really hard to gauge, but it feels like it

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<v Speaker 2>is chaotic at the moment, Like watching it as an

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<v Speaker 2>outside who is meant to know what's going on, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to get a feel of what is truly happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it athleticism, Is it teams not being resilient enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Because there's so many anomalies.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going, Okay, it's it's benefiting, benefiting the run first

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<v Speaker 1>speed to where the game going.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you go, hang on a second months.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, and why isn't Anna Reynolds having such a great season?

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<v Speaker 2>And then why the Tiger has gone from the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>up towards the top. And the only thing I can

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<v Speaker 2>say about the Tigers is they've doubled down on their defense.

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<v Speaker 2>But they have athleticism through their team, but not not

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<v Speaker 2>not not elite players like across the board, like the Storm,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have athleticism. Back rollers are big and strong

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<v Speaker 2>and powerful and they're offloading the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And thing is they've got to grow and belief in

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<v Speaker 1>their defense, which means, I mean, how good your defense

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<v Speaker 1>is affords you afford you the ability to make mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>or take some risks. With the football teams that have

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<v Speaker 1>got terrible defense, yeah, they've got to play. They've almost

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<v Speaker 1>got a completed a ninety percent where the Tigers now

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<v Speaker 1>are able to defend errors.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we want to put the lens on the Sharks, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>they have the athleticism, they've got a good defensive system

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<v Speaker 2>under Craig Fitzgibven, but maybe Trindle and Hinds aren't making

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<v Speaker 2>the smart decision that someone like Nathan Cleary is when

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<v Speaker 2>they do have the ball and when they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, Because when things go well for the Sharks,

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<v Speaker 2>they're good. They're really.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's going to talk here about the game where it's

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<v Speaker 1>evolved in twenty twenty six the six again rule, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that we've had another layer on top of that

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<v Speaker 1>of speed and fatigue with twenty forty rule, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>evolved the games getting faster all the time. We're hearing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the big games and big guys in the

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<v Speaker 1>game we're coming out of saying, you just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>drive us out of the game. I thought, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back in the history of the game and let's do

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<v Speaker 1>five players or combinations from the past that they're playing

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<v Speaker 1>in this game now, they'd even be better.

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<v Speaker 3>Like at a whole other level.

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<v Speaker 1>First guy, I've got and made this bloke, if he'll

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<v Speaker 1>playing under this rules, we would be talking about him

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<v Speaker 1>being one of the greatest players we've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Matt Bowen.

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<v Speaker 1>I argue with that, Matt Bowen if he was playing

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<v Speaker 1>in this in this age at the moment, with how

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<v Speaker 1>loose the rucks are, how vulnerable the big men are

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>This bloke would just he would carve for the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>He would know whether it's a fatigue and edge defense,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's a middle four that's been out there for

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<v Speaker 2>too long, his combination with Jonathan Thurston. That's the one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I will add to the Matt Bowen conversation is

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<v Speaker 2>that we'll go through the individuals that would light up

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<v Speaker 2>the game. But for every Matt Bowen play, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>greatness to him because of the combination, the telepathic nature

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<v Speaker 2>he had with Thurston first, and we're going to go

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<v Speaker 2>through some individuals, but those individuals had relationships with other

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<v Speaker 2>players within their team that they would absolutely target and

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of the game of the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if we're talking about that, if we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>combinations or players that could excel, but even more so

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<v Speaker 1>under a combination than you're included in this because Billy Slater,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean speed, skill, tactical, genius, footwork.

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<v Speaker 3>Mate.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, he'll be to mortal as it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think under these current rules, off Slater was around,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be saying he's in the top five I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't agree with that. I can't agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things I would say about Billy is

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<v Speaker 2>whenever we played against the tied defense, he wanted the

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<v Speaker 2>ball because he thought the opposition would be more tired

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<v Speaker 2>than him. So we would often spot defenders who looked

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<v Speaker 2>like they've been at the end of their stint, and

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<v Speaker 2>Billy would get the ball and run at him. Imagine

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<v Speaker 2>that now, multiple players lacking athletic ability been on the

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<v Speaker 2>field for too long and just their eyes are roll

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<v Speaker 2>in the back of the head, and had Slayer coming

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<v Speaker 2>to them at one hundred miles an hour. I think yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he would. Absolutely he carved it up in the game that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was That's like.

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<v Speaker 1>And the great thing about Athan Bowen Maddie Bone is

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<v Speaker 1>they can play first receiver as well, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not a guy that is entirely reliant on a combination.

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<v Speaker 1>They can just get a ball. The next one I've

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<v Speaker 1>got is brotherly bias. Aside Andrew Johnson, think about with Joey.

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<v Speaker 1>Just think about this for a second. Right Andrew dominated

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<v Speaker 1>in the unlimited interchange era, So you think about the.

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<v Speaker 3>Difference in the game right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew effectively was his whole career was playing against middleman

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<v Speaker 1>or defenders that were fairly fresh. You give an idea coop,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a repeat set, dribble the ball into the goals,

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<v Speaker 1>and the two middles were unashamably put their hand up

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<v Speaker 1>and just get substituted.

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<v Speaker 3>They go off. They could be off for a minute

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<v Speaker 3>or two, then back on.

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<v Speaker 1>Some sides were making forty eight interchanges in a game,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes some teams even more so. For Andrew to be

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<v Speaker 1>in an era where the rucks are so fast, the

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<v Speaker 1>middles are just out on there for you operating on

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter of a tank, he'd be even he'd be

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<v Speaker 1>even more dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a defensive team today playing against Andrew. John's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that I would say that would scare me

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<v Speaker 2>playing Newcastle is a relationship he had with Danny badeiros

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<v Speaker 2>say Andrew would have so much trust with Badias that

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<v Speaker 2>it would be like, you know, take the ball to

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<v Speaker 2>left hand, post work over this tired defender and then

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<v Speaker 2>when I call the ball, you put it on my

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<v Speaker 2>right hip because I'm going to take on that middle

0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.040
<v Speaker 2>ford on the right, big right foot step that he

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<v Speaker 2>did here. Yeah, The fact that for all Joey's greatness.

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<v Speaker 2>You could have someone else that is basically just moving

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<v Speaker 2>the chest pieces around for Joey to strike. I think

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<v Speaker 2>in today game we marvel at the individuality of some players, absolutely,

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.280
<v Speaker 2>but the fact that Andrew could have badiris just marshaling

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the team around in one aspect allows Andrew just to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on what he's about to do, and that combination

0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.159
<v Speaker 2>at work is like it's like a scientist really or

0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.760
<v Speaker 2>a surgeon just going to work, just picking apart the

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<v Speaker 2>weakness of an opposition.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when Joey used to play State of Origin.

0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.120
<v Speaker 1>He actually went into the game with his own game

0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:27.840
<v Speaker 1>plan in the head. He just came right out, this

0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:29.399
<v Speaker 1>is how we're going to beat him. They've got a

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<v Speaker 1>really big pack. You know, they've got guys like Brad Thorne,

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Weebke, Gordon Tallis Petra. What we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>for the first twenty five minutes, We're going to play

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<v Speaker 1>sidelines sideline, you know, play two sideways to luddle them

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<v Speaker 1>into a bit of a sense security. Then just before halftime,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to turn our guns and go through the

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<v Speaker 1>middle the next blow. He would destroy teams with how

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:49.760
<v Speaker 1>relentless he was through the middle.

0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:50.680
<v Speaker 3>That's Alan Langer.

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<v Speaker 1>Alfie like the two great sevens of the early to

0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.400
<v Speaker 1>mid nineties were Ricky Stewart and Alan Langer, but they'll

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<v Speaker 1>pole robosits. Ricky play was a long player he played

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<v Speaker 1>with which went around and opposition, which was the nature

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<v Speaker 1>of the Green machine. Alf relentlessly playing through target defenders.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember playing him for the first time, might have

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<v Speaker 1>been nine ninety three, and we're playing in Coops and

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<v Speaker 1>early in the game he's sort of going to the

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<v Speaker 1>line and our middles are handling him and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of himself so much like I thought he'd ha

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<v Speaker 1>more but I was thinking, no, we're handling.

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<v Speaker 3>This blow pretty easily today.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing about alf he just kept going and

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<v Speaker 1>kept going and kept going and kept going, and as

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<v Speaker 1>our middle started to tire in the second half, he

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<v Speaker 1>just tore them to pieces, the last one to Coops

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going way way back here.

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<v Speaker 3>This bloke.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven tests for the Wallabies, then came over to Paramatta

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<v Speaker 1>and Rugby League in nineteen seventy six, twenty two times

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<v Speaker 1>for the Kangaroos, fifteen times for New South Wales, won

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<v Speaker 1>four competitions, won of Rothman's medal. Never missed out in

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<v Speaker 1>his whole time for Paramatta, never missed the finals, and

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<v Speaker 1>when he retired in eighty six, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>did make the finals again for another ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Years or eleven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Rate Price one of the greatest competitors who's ever played

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<v Speaker 1>the game played Locke played thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Thinking about with Price. He was first and foremost.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbelievably tough, but he was incredibly fit. They called him

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<v Speaker 1>mister perpetual motion. He spooned and his footwork and skill

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<v Speaker 1>were underrated. And you know one thing about Pricing, even

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<v Speaker 1>when he'd be definitely out on his feet, he'd still

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<v Speaker 1>make his tackles. You know, with the way he's wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the eight there, but that was before the change to

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<v Speaker 1>international numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd be wearing the thirteen jersey. And he was just

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<v Speaker 3>a great player.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think in this modern game, where fatigue

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<v Speaker 1>is such a big thing, I think that he would excel.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with all your suggestions. I'm going to add

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of my individual players that would line up

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<v Speaker 2>the footy field in today's game, I'm going to put

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<v Speaker 2>Benji Marshall in it. Yeah, like some of his movements

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<v Speaker 2>against a generation where defence dominated the game. Like he

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<v Speaker 2>bounces past people and in a contact sport they can't

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<v Speaker 2>even touch him, right, Like he moves across laterally against

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<v Speaker 2>defenders better than sort of most people in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And if there was a retreating defense, like he just

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<v Speaker 2>skips through to be able to get through a gap

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<v Speaker 2>in a contact sport without being touched. Like, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>hell of a skill. And he's got the confidence off

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<v Speaker 2>the back of that too, the flick pass to come

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<v Speaker 2>up with a play this risk first reward mentality that

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, actually what have it happens here? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mind. This is like there's not too many players

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<v Speaker 2>in the history of our game that could do this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's outrageous. That's a highlight reel for our game for

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<v Speaker 2>the next hundred years.

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<v Speaker 3>That one too.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's learnt very well. He was under Tim Sheens

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<v Speaker 1>for most of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Which played a fast brand like Tim Sheens and the

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<v Speaker 2>Tigers when they won the comp they played a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of up tempo football which got them on the front foot.

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<v Speaker 3>And he did coop.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very very good. Chens and Benji and the

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<v Speaker 1>players talk about this. They said he was incredibly good

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<v Speaker 1>at how to how to build a football team, get

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<v Speaker 1>a young side in and how to build him for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years time, a couple of years ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's he went there in two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>belly Eate was offered the job, Billot.

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<v Speaker 3>Knocked it back.

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<v Speaker 1>She's went in. They won in two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 1>But Benji says, the first year they were there, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>it was always just two on two and one drills,

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<v Speaker 1>three on two, such basic fundamentals.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the football that spawned.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other one is Seawan Johnson very similar to

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<v Speaker 2>Benji one on one, trying to stop him with his

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<v Speaker 2>footwork and movement. I feel like in today's game he's

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<v Speaker 2>recently retired, but with the speed of ruck at his prime,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if there was any stagger defensive line,

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<v Speaker 2>that someone gave some type of space, he could step

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<v Speaker 2>beaten pass, but then if they jammed in around him

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent the run. He's got that ball over the

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<v Speaker 2>top that he was able to execute at different stages

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but the ability just to help skip jump

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<v Speaker 2>and go through a space.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these games over the years that the try

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<v Speaker 1>he scored right on full time against England and the

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup semney final.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Wembley or insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Insane, and I will go one more so for the

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<v Speaker 2>John's and Badira's combination. Really like the Thurst and ball

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<v Speaker 2>on one, I'm going to throw Cliffy Lines and men'siz like.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if there was a telepathic combination in

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<v Speaker 2>the history of our game, these two are almost the

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<v Speaker 2>top example of it because look at that, like just

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that a defense is fatigued and not feeling the

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<v Speaker 2>space Mensis cuts back inside. The amount of times that

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<v Speaker 2>that was just the I'm going to look left, you

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<v Speaker 2>move right and I'll get the ball to you. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought these two would carver any competition or defensive line

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<v Speaker 2>that just just slightly wasn't doing their job for a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Just such a rare play.

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff Lines special mention the three men, Ben Barber, you're

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<v Speaker 1>McGrady and ellery Hanley. Right, Coops, we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>the players. The three players are really benefiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>real changes now, but we'll do that next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoyed it the show today. Trip down memory Lane for

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<v Speaker 3>Under