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Speaker 1: Kobe Storm and Rabbits interesting game from a couple of angles. Firstly,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about South La troll Mitchell in full beast mode.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm scared. But wasn't it. As a fan,

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Speaker 2: you'd love to see matel do that every week, like

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Speaker 2: playing left center like he had Like so let's say

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Speaker 2: ten or twelve touches, scored multiple scoreboard of opportunities for

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Speaker 2: his team, line breaks, line break assists, and he just

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Speaker 2: played with venom like he had something whatever he had

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Speaker 2: in his week. Bioks that day do it again.

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Speaker 1: Something special about those players who carry the ball in

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Speaker 1: their left hand.

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Speaker 2: And every time I see him do this, I think

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Speaker 2: Geezy needs to be closer to the ball. Mage of

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Speaker 2: his touches doubled. That means his efficiency turns double.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what really took into fullback in the

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Speaker 2: I don't think fullback he's going to be part of

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Speaker 2: him from now on because Dufty's doing good. Gray's doing good,

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Speaker 2: but he needs to be able to move out of

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Speaker 2: that center and get more touches at different stage.

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Speaker 1: He tried way way back in the day old for

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Speaker 1: the Newcastle Knights at six I played someone someone said,

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Speaker 1: I don't really think he's got it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks mate.

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Speaker 2: I played for the Roosters and he played six ones.

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Speaker 2: And he needs to be led into the brought into

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Speaker 2: the game. But he's old enough now to know when

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Speaker 2: he wants to come into the game. But Jesus was

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Speaker 2: a good performers like he inspired everyone else to play better.

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Speaker 2: Their best players souse on the weekend, Cam Murray, Cody

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Speaker 2: Walker and Litrell Mitchell. Then all of a sudden, Dufty

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Speaker 2: tell Us Duncan and a few other starts stand up

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Speaker 2: Jack White and has a good game. Oh we can believe,

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Speaker 2: and we can do this against Melbourne for a team

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Speaker 2: that hasn't won in Melbourne. They go down there, their

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Speaker 2: best players stand up. All of a sudden, it's raining

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Speaker 2: points for South.

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Speaker 1: Luck's of fortune, you know what I mean. And I

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Speaker 1: look at Maddie Dufty. He went away to England. He

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Speaker 1: sort of hit at cul de Sac here went to England.

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Speaker 1: Things didn't go great in England. He asked for release,

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Speaker 1: a grand him release.

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Speaker 3: He came back.

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Speaker 1: He's on train and trial, but all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: he arrives and he goes, holy shit, they've brought them

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Speaker 1: mountain to me as in all these rule changes, the

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Speaker 1: way the NRL has evolved suits me down to the ground.

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Speaker 2: But also going to England and you know, the Super

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Speaker 2: League for some players can be just that oh okay,

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Speaker 2: you know I can get back to playing football, just

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Speaker 2: the simplicity and the genuine love of the game. Right, Like,

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Speaker 2: he's obviously found something. There's been multiple players who have

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Speaker 2: struggled to find their rhythm here, gone over to England

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Speaker 2: Super League and come back and are improved.

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Speaker 1: What they were incredible? Who he went over like he

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Speaker 1: said he was playing of course.

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Speaker 2: Struggling at the Knights, went over to Wigan, came.

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Speaker 3: Back, come back and genius. It's just been up and

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Speaker 3: up from there. But he was playing reserve great of warrings.

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Speaker 3: He was playing reserve grade of warrings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought Cody Walker was good too, like the

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Speaker 2: best left sided player we have in the competition. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: his body has let him down at different stages. I

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Speaker 2: fear like there is signs that Cody is getting back

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Speaker 1: There's a nice adjustment on the weekend and Cody loves

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Speaker 1: the sweep sequence and a lot of times I was

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Speaker 1: watching Cody how he game of all times last year

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Speaker 1: a number of times in this game, he's done the adjust.

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Speaker 1: See how he's he's tighter and he's flat at and

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Speaker 1: what that means is he's more dangerous. He's got to

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Speaker 1: be accounted for. And you see he's so tight. The

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Speaker 1: teams are squeezing in outside in, and that's cret the

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Speaker 2: His eyes tell him what the defense is going to do,

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Speaker 2: so that time, if the defense is passive, he hits

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Speaker 2: outside shoulder and skip pass. It's a very good skill

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Speaker 2: to have because how many times do we see outside

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Speaker 3: Well, that's just what you said there.

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Speaker 1: When you're sitting on that line and you just sort

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, sorry, Lord is coming around like this, And

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Speaker 1: you said before about on that sweep, he's just creeping around.

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Speaker 1: And the bloker was the genius of that. Who make

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Speaker 1: you play with Billy Slater coming around. I remember watching

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Speaker 1: Billy sometimes and heat idle, and if he sensed that

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Speaker 1: He basically goes straight across.

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Speaker 3: Right. He called it a web block.

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Speaker 2: So hard to describe here, but if you run on

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Speaker 2: which means if they're coming in that time to get

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Speaker 2: if you can drift sideways on a defender come into you,

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Speaker 2: it actually give you a split second more time to

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Speaker 2: defensess started rushing him, so he had to it just

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Speaker 2: a very good ability to know when a team has

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Speaker 1: I think everyone acknowledges how well Souse a playing at

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Speaker 1: the moment where they're going, But the main storyline out

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Speaker 1: of this has been the Melbourne storm, which is overshadowed.

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Speaker 3: How good South work.

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Speaker 2: That's the best performance I've seen from South in a

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Speaker 2: long time. Like we've seen glimpses of brilliance from them,

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Speaker 2: but like it was elite.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you something. And while sitting with

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Speaker 3: Where South were last year. So South last year.

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Speaker 1: With Wayne unprecedented injury crisis, you know, all their key

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Speaker 1: Wayne went, you know what, there's a lot gun. This

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Speaker 1: is not going to be our season. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: to fight this losing battle. We're going to start to

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Speaker 1: that wasn't going to be their year, and he rather

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Speaker 1: he just took took his hands off him a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You saying that's what Bellamy and the Storm should do.

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Speaker 1: I know what I'm asking for you, Coop. Do you

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Speaker 1: think do you think if you if the Storm get

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Speaker 1: the moment of the ladder, do you think bellyk has

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Speaker 2: Should answer no, Like every game is an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: win every game. You've got to be your best version

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Speaker 2: of weeks time isn't in his blood. It simply is not.

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Speaker 2: I get why people start thinking like that, but this

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Speaker 2: is Penrith last year, Like people were saying, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 2: Penrith needed just you know, maybe it's not our year.

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Speaker 2: Did they do that?

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Speaker 3: Hell no, Hell no.

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Speaker 2: They stayed stoic and believed that their game style was

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's where Melbourne at right now. They're

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Speaker 2: wrestling with two Grand Final losses. They're wrestling with are

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Speaker 2: we still good enough? But I feel like you've got

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Speaker 2: start changing now, you will go worse. Like I feel

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Speaker 2: like that because you've spent what four or five months

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Speaker 2: and maybe caught a couple of teams on the hop.

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Speaker 2: But if you start shifting now, well you'd have to

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Speaker 2: either get very lucky, catch fire, or you're throwing out

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Speaker 2: what your DNA is. And Melbourne Storm's DNA has been good.

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Speaker 3: For a long time, long time.

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Speaker 2: You're not trying to tell me you change one rule

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Speaker 1: They've got the Dolphins this week and without your own

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Speaker 1: a lot of these players are in this side have inherited.

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Speaker 1: This is that you blokes, the Melbourne Storm have beat

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Speaker 1: so many teams up in the last twenty years that

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Speaker 1: are you?

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Speaker 3: This is hey, this is payback.

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Speaker 1: We're going to punish you, guys, and mostly guys like

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Speaker 1: Joe chan That guys, guys, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm just right. That was definitely in the makeup

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Speaker 2: of the trell It was in the makeup of Cody

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Speaker 2: every time South Sydney scored, like Talas Duncan was given

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Speaker 2: in the venomin which they played with Tallas Duncan.

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Speaker 3: I love Talus Duncan.

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Speaker 2: Gets his bumpers up, scores and then what's your action

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Speaker 2: straight back at him, like I got one of the

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Speaker 2: better players in this competition. I'm going to come for

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Speaker 3: So that's great. I love I love that in the game.

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Speaker 2: I like Dallas Duncan to the point that he's physical

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Speaker 2: in contact. He never missed his assignment and from a

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Speaker 2: half backs point of view, he's sent me to perfect

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Speaker 2: with his time and it just gives months or a.

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Speaker 3: Godful like he could play a tealist.

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Speaker 2: But what would you do, Like let's say Bellamy rings

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow and says.

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Speaker 1: More to the point, I'd ask you because you watch

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Speaker 1: you know you've been part of this club and you've

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Speaker 1: worked with Bellie. Because I'm looking at the moment Craig's

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Speaker 1: walking into the press conference and he's just he's been

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Speaker 1: like I've never.

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Speaker 3: Said he he looks he looks really tired.

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Speaker 1: He looks frustrated, of course, but he looks really fatigued,

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Speaker 1: looks really tired. Yeah, as far as the side is concerned,

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Speaker 1: it is a confidence, is a motivation?

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Speaker 3: Is it tactical? Is it roster? Is it real change?

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a bit of everything.

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Speaker 3: Coops Broncos and Bulldogs.

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Speaker 1: Geez I said, firstly, Broncos are playing great football, a

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Speaker 2: It was a master class in last play options against

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Speaker 2: too many people will notice that. They will just marvel

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Speaker 2: the Broncos probably don't score that try. I think he

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Speaker 2: was outstanding. And we've spoken to about Ezra Man. He

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Speaker 2: But some of his ballplay and I think is the

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Speaker 2: best that he has delivered in his career. His first

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Speaker 3: Coper, like Reese's Hollywood Reese Walsh. But I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: I'm of the opinion I think Ezra is as important

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Speaker 2: See sometimes when he moves fast, he moves fast with

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Speaker 1: The other night, just on the Bulldogs, right, and whenever

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Speaker 1: how did they beat the Panthers. They didn't beat the

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Speaker 1: beat the Panthers by suffocating defense. Now in this game

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Speaker 3: Just squeezing in impossibly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the right word, but you know,

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Speaker 2: But it's almost like Montoya gave a lot of space

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Speaker 2: the opportunity this one here, you know, combination work, just

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Speaker 2: being in too far giving space to Marner do his thing.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like there's I'm with you. Whatever they

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Speaker 2: to some really bad defensive habits. The Dogs for me,

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Speaker 2: they've got to get back to what they're good at

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Speaker 1: Coub only eight rounds in, but some of these sides

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: We spoke about Penrith before because last year wasn't so

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Speaker 1: the competition in some way, teams basically really benefiting from

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Speaker 1: the real change. There's less spots up for grabs the

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Speaker 1: back end of the year. Well, if you run through

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Speaker 1: Penrith's going to play finals. Yes, I did list the

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Speaker 2: My O people already locked in, that are locked in.

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Speaker 1: And then another couple that you go and it could

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Speaker 3: You've got Storm, You've got.

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Speaker 1: Sharks, You've got the Dogs, and there's a number of

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Speaker 1: other teams there as well. Other teams that are improving

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Speaker 2: I agree, And I don't know whether the change of

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Speaker 2: It's really hard to gauge, but it feels like it

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Speaker 2: is chaotic at the moment, Like watching it as an

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Speaker 2: it's hard to get a feel of what is truly happening.

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Speaker 2: Is it athleticism, Is it teams not being resilient enough.

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Speaker 3: Because there's so many anomalies.

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Speaker 1: You're going, Okay, it's it's benefiting, benefiting the run first

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Speaker 3: But then you go, hang on a second months.

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Speaker 1: Too, and why isn't Anna Reynolds having such a great season?

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Speaker 2: And then why the Tiger has gone from the bottom

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Speaker 2: But they have athleticism through their team, but not not

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Speaker 2: not not elite players like across the board, like the Storm,

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Speaker 2: but they have athleticism. Back rollers are big and strong

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Speaker 1: And thing is they've got to grow and belief in

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Speaker 1: is affords you afford you the ability to make mistakes

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Speaker 2: And if we want to put the lens on the Sharks, mate,

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Speaker 2: they have the athleticism, they've got a good defensive system

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Speaker 2: under Craig Fitzgibven, but maybe Trindle and Hinds aren't making

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Speaker 2: the smart decision that someone like Nathan Cleary is when

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Speaker 2: they do have the ball and when they don't have

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Speaker 2: they're good. They're really.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to talk here about the game where it's

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Speaker 1: evolved in twenty twenty six the six again rule, which

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Speaker 1: is that we've had another layer on top of that

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Speaker 1: evolved the games getting faster all the time. We're hearing

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Speaker 1: game we're coming out of saying, you just trying to

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Speaker 1: drive us out of the game. I thought, let's go

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Speaker 1: five players or combinations from the past that they're playing

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Speaker 3: Like at a whole other level.

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Speaker 1: First guy, I've got and made this bloke, if he'll

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Speaker 1: playing under this rules, we would be talking about him

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Speaker 1: being one of the greatest players we've seen.

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Speaker 3: That's Matt Bowen.

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Speaker 1: I argue with that, Matt Bowen if he was playing

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Speaker 3: This bloke would just he would carve for the whole.

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Speaker 2: He would know whether it's a fatigue and edge defense,

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Speaker 2: whether it's a middle four that's been out there for

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Speaker 2: too long, his combination with Jonathan Thurston. That's the one

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Speaker 2: thing I will add to the Matt Bowen conversation is

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Speaker 2: that we'll go through the individuals that would light up

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Speaker 2: the game. But for every Matt Bowen play, there's a

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Speaker 2: greatness to him because of the combination, the telepathic nature

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Speaker 2: he had with Thurston first, and we're going to go

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Speaker 2: through some individuals, but those individuals had relationships with other

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Speaker 2: players within their team that they would absolutely target and

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Speaker 1: Well, if we're talking about that, if we're talking about

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Speaker 1: combinations or players that could excel, but even more so

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Speaker 1: under a combination than you're included in this because Billy Slater,

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Speaker 1: I mean speed, skill, tactical, genius, footwork.

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Speaker 3: Mate.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, he'll be to mortal as it is.

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Speaker 1: I think under these current rules, off Slater was around,

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Speaker 2: I can't agree with that. I can't agree with that.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I would say about Billy is

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Speaker 2: like they've been at the end of their stint, and

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Speaker 2: Billy would get the ball and run at him. Imagine

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Speaker 2: to them at one hundred miles an hour. I think yeah,

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Speaker 3: Was That's like.

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Speaker 1: And the great thing about Athan Bowen Maddie Bone is

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Speaker 1: They can just get a ball. The next one I've

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Speaker 1: got is brotherly bias. Aside Andrew Johnson, think about with Joey.

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Speaker 1: Just think about this for a second. Right Andrew dominated

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Speaker 3: Difference in the game right now.

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Speaker 1: Andrew effectively was his whole career was playing against middleman

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Speaker 1: and the two middles were unashamably put their hand up

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Speaker 3: They go off. They could be off for a minute

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Speaker 1: Some sides were making forty eight interchanges in a game,

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Speaker 1: sometimes some teams even more so. For Andrew to be

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Speaker 1: middles are just out on there for you operating on

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Speaker 2: If you're a defensive team today playing against Andrew. John's

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Speaker 2: the thing that I would say that would scare me

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Speaker 2: say Andrew would have so much trust with Badias that

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Speaker 2: left hand, post work over this tired defender and then

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Speaker 2: when I call the ball, you put it on my

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Speaker 2: You could have someone else that is basically just moving

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Speaker 2: at work is like it's like a scientist really or

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Speaker 1: And that's when Joey used to play State of Origin.

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Speaker 1: He actually went into the game with his own game

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Speaker 1: plan in the head. He just came right out, this

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Speaker 1: really big pack. You know, they've got guys like Brad Thorne,

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Speaker 1: Shane Weebke, Gordon Tallis Petra. What we're going to do

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Speaker 1: for the first twenty five minutes, We're going to play

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Speaker 1: sidelines sideline, you know, play two sideways to luddle them

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Speaker 1: into a bit of a sense security. Then just before halftime,

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Speaker 1: we're going to turn our guns and go through the

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Speaker 1: middle the next blow. He would destroy teams with how

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Speaker 1: relentless he was through the middle.

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Speaker 3: That's Alan Langer.

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Speaker 1: Alfie like the two great sevens of the early to

448
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Speaker 1: mid nineties were Ricky Stewart and Alan Langer, but they'll

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Speaker 1: pole robosits. Ricky play was a long player he played

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Speaker 1: with which went around and opposition, which was the nature

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Speaker 1: of the Green machine. Alf relentlessly playing through target defenders.

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Speaker 1: I remember playing him for the first time, might have

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Speaker 1: been nine ninety three, and we're playing in Coops and

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Speaker 1: early in the game he's sort of going to the

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Speaker 1: line and our middles are handling him and I'm not

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Speaker 1: thinking of himself so much like I thought he'd ha

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Speaker 1: more but I was thinking, no, we're handling.

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Speaker 3: This blow pretty easily today.

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Speaker 1: But the thing about alf he just kept going and

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Speaker 1: kept going and kept going and kept going, and as

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Speaker 1: our middle started to tire in the second half, he

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Speaker 1: just tore them to pieces, the last one to Coops

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Speaker 1: and I'm going way way back here.

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Speaker 3: This bloke.

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Speaker 1: Seven tests for the Wallabies, then came over to Paramatta

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Speaker 1: and Rugby League in nineteen seventy six, twenty two times

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Speaker 1: for the Kangaroos, fifteen times for New South Wales, won

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Speaker 1: four competitions, won of Rothman's medal. Never missed out in

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Speaker 1: his whole time for Paramatta, never missed the finals, and

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Speaker 1: when he retired in eighty six, I don't think that

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Speaker 1: did make the finals again for another ten.

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Speaker 3: Years or eleven years.

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Speaker 1: Rate Price one of the greatest competitors who's ever played

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Speaker 1: the game played Locke played thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Thinking about with Price. He was first and foremost.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievably tough, but he was incredibly fit. They called him

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Speaker 1: mister perpetual motion. He spooned and his footwork and skill

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Speaker 1: were underrated. And you know one thing about Pricing, even

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Speaker 1: when he'd be definitely out on his feet, he'd still

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Speaker 1: make his tackles. You know, with the way he's wearing

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Speaker 1: the eight there, but that was before the change to

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Speaker 1: international numbers.

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Speaker 3: He'd be wearing the thirteen jersey. And he was just

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Speaker 3: a great player.

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Speaker 1: And I just think in this modern game, where fatigue

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Speaker 1: is such a big thing, I think that he would excel.

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Speaker 2: I agree with all your suggestions. I'm going to add

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Speaker 2: in terms of my individual players that would line up

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Speaker 2: the footy field in today's game, I'm going to put

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Speaker 2: Benji Marshall in it. Yeah, like some of his movements

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Speaker 2: against a generation where defence dominated the game. Like he

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Speaker 2: bounces past people and in a contact sport they can't

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Speaker 2: even touch him, right, Like he moves across laterally against

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Speaker 2: defenders better than sort of most people in the game.

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Speaker 2: And if there was a retreating defense, like he just

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Speaker 2: skips through to be able to get through a gap

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Speaker 2: in a contact sport without being touched. Like, that's a

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Speaker 2: hell of a skill. And he's got the confidence off

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Speaker 2: the back of that too, the flick pass to come

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Speaker 2: up with a play this risk first reward mentality that

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Speaker 2: you know what, actually what have it happens here? I

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Speaker 2: don't mind. This is like there's not too many players

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Speaker 2: in the history of our game that could do this.

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Speaker 2: That's outrageous. That's a highlight reel for our game for

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Speaker 2: the next hundred years.

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Speaker 3: That one too.

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Speaker 1: And he's learnt very well. He was under Tim Sheens

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Speaker 1: for most of his career.

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Speaker 2: Which played a fast brand like Tim Sheens and the

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Speaker 2: Tigers when they won the comp they played a lot

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Speaker 2: of up tempo football which got them on the front foot.

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Speaker 3: And he did coop.

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Speaker 1: He was very very good. Chens and Benji and the

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Speaker 1: players talk about this. They said he was incredibly good

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Speaker 1: at how to how to build a football team, get

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Speaker 1: a young side in and how to build him for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years time, a couple of years ahead.

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Speaker 1: I think she's he went there in two thousand and three,

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Speaker 1: belly Eate was offered the job, Billot.

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Speaker 3: Knocked it back.

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Speaker 1: She's went in. They won in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: But Benji says, the first year they were there, mate,

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Speaker 1: it was always just two on two and one drills,

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Speaker 1: three on two, such basic fundamentals.

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Speaker 3: But that's the football that spawned.

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Speaker 2: And the other one is Seawan Johnson very similar to

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Speaker 2: Benji one on one, trying to stop him with his

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Speaker 2: footwork and movement. I feel like in today's game he's

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Speaker 2: recently retired, but with the speed of ruck at his prime,

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Speaker 2: I feel like if there was any stagger defensive line,

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Speaker 2: that someone gave some type of space, he could step

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Speaker 2: beaten pass, but then if they jammed in around him

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Speaker 2: to prevent the run. He's got that ball over the

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Speaker 2: top that he was able to execute at different stages

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Speaker 2: like that, but the ability just to help skip jump

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Speaker 2: and go through a space.

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Speaker 1: Some of these games over the years that the try

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Speaker 1: he scored right on full time against England and the

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Speaker 1: World Cup semney final.

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Speaker 3: It was Wembley or insane.

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Speaker 2: Insane, and I will go one more so for the

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Speaker 2: John's and Badira's combination. Really like the Thurst and ball

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Speaker 2: on one, I'm going to throw Cliffy Lines and men'siz like.

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Speaker 2: I feel like if there was a telepathic combination in

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Speaker 2: the history of our game, these two are almost the

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Speaker 2: top example of it because look at that, like just

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Speaker 2: feeling that a defense is fatigued and not feeling the

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Speaker 2: space Mensis cuts back inside. The amount of times that

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Speaker 2: that was just the I'm going to look left, you

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Speaker 2: move right and I'll get the ball to you. I

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Speaker 2: thought these two would carver any competition or defensive line

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Speaker 2: that just just slightly wasn't doing their job for a moment.

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Speaker 3: Just such a rare play.

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Speaker 1: Cliff Lines special mention the three men, Ben Barber, you're

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Speaker 1: McGrady and ellery Hanley. Right, Coops, we're going to do

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Speaker 1: the players. The three players are really benefiting for the

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Speaker 1: real changes now, but we'll do that next week.

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Speaker 3: Enjoyed it the show today. Trip down memory Lane for

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Speaker 3: Under