Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: I love it, Shrry and this made the day. Thank
Speaker 2: you very much, lots to get to tonight. Thank you
Speaker 2: to everyone who came and sawus in Western Australia, from
Speaker 2: Portlandland to Perth, from sub all the way back here
Speaker 2: to the Man Cave.
Speaker 1: It's been a wonderful.
Speaker 2: Past few days. Great to couple the kids with a
Speaker 2: delayed Father's Day, but it's so good to be back
Speaker 2: here where you join us eachin every night. And yeah,
Speaker 2: of course I'm going to give it both battles for
Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers today.
Speaker 1: What a surprise. It's everyone else's fault. Don't talk about
Speaker 1: the dog track that is the Bruce Highway. This thing's
Speaker 1: a killer.
Speaker 3: They've got to fix it up, but for some reason
Speaker 3: they won't.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3: Tim Watts, the bloke woo Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: Would like to be her vice president, is about to
Speaker 2: have a very very bad week. But first, the wind
Speaker 2: is so strong in some parts of the country in
Speaker 2: the old parlance and to blower dog off a chain.
Speaker 2: There's been well massive wind gusts all the way from
Speaker 2: Tazzy through two parts of New South Wales and beyond.
Speaker 2: Let's focus in on what's been happening in New South
Speaker 2: Wales because we worked with the news this morning lady
Speaker 2: had died. Police confirmed today that the lady had been
Speaker 2: crushed by a tree.
Speaker 3: She was in a holiday cabin near Aubrey.
Speaker 2: On the of course yess Well's Victoria Border Police have
Speaker 2: said that the woman died as the tree fell onto
Speaker 2: her cabin at about three point fifty this morning, so
Speaker 2: presumably she was asleep. Emergency services were called.
Speaker 1: To the area.
Speaker 3: This is near the News of Oz Victorian Border.
Speaker 2: It followed reports that a tree had fallen on the
Speaker 2: cabin offices attached to the local Murray District River Police.
Speaker 2: They attended. They found the body of a woman. She
Speaker 2: was sixty three in the wreckage. We will know more
Speaker 2: about whom she is once her family is informed and
Speaker 2: i'll update you again tomorrow. Meantime, the winds have course
Speaker 2: all the trouble in the world for anyone trying to
Speaker 2: catch a flight home. Thankfully mine was the Red Eye.
Speaker 2: Because the winds have been crazy. They've mucked around with
Speaker 2: everything from the trains and train lines and power lines.
Speaker 2: Lots of problems in and around Sydney. In Victoria, it's
Speaker 2: been an absolute bugger of a day as well. Lots
Speaker 2: of people were actually told to stay home today because
Speaker 2: of how bad the wind would have ended up. And
Speaker 2: here's the sees about the latest from Victoria and Tazzy,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of you too.
Speaker 1: I know that's been one hell of a day for
Speaker 1: you as well.
Speaker 4: When in doubt, don't go out. It is likely that
Speaker 4: the destructive, destructive and damaging winds are going to result
Speaker 4: in a lot more trees down, more houses without power,
Speaker 4: building damage, road closures and possibly network possibly impacts on
Speaker 4: the transport networks.
Speaker 2: Rather as always my forever thanks to the volunteers who
Speaker 2: are out and about in this stuff. The professionals as well,
Speaker 2: thank you for what you do going towards trouble on
Speaker 2: a day when others are trying to hide quite rightly.
Speaker 2: So so I'll make Jim Charms, the Treasurer of Australia,
Speaker 2: the man who considers himself next in line to Anthony Obernezi.
Speaker 1: But of course ourb will rule forever, so he'll be
Speaker 1: forever in a day before he becomes Prime minister.
Speaker 2: Now we often show this little image of him because
Speaker 2: grim Jim is always there to say, well everything's getting better,
Speaker 2: things are actually getting worse. And remember what he said
Speaker 2: when he was the Shadow Treasurer, what he said when
Speaker 2: interest rates went up during the federal election campaign in
Speaker 2: May of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5: This is a full blome cost of living crisis on
Speaker 5: Scott Morrison's watch. When things are going well in the economy,
Speaker 5: he takes all of the credit, and when times are
Speaker 5: tough in the economy, he takes none of the responsibility.
Speaker 2: Well, we all know that he was essentially talking about himself.
Speaker 2: That was one rate rise. As you know, the Reserve
Speaker 2: Bank has made its decision a total of thirteen times,
Speaker 2: including that one twelve on the watch of Grim Jim
Speaker 2: is the Treasurer and albo is the Prime Minister.
Speaker 1: Up up, up, up, up up up.
Speaker 2: We're showing you this in a thousand different ways. We're
Speaker 2: told you that now the average Australian is having to
Speaker 2: find tens of thousands of dollars to pay off their
Speaker 2: house or investment property that they didn't have to before
Speaker 2: this mob came to power. But as you'll have heard today,
Speaker 2: the reality is that the Reserve Bank is not most
Speaker 2: likely to be cutting interest rates anytime soon. In fact,
Speaker 2: the expectation is that they won't be being cut at
Speaker 2: all this year. That means no early federal election. There
Speaker 2: is of course speculation that they are as close to
Speaker 2: going up as they are to being held, which is
Speaker 2: basically a kindergoing up, because remember, it is a dozen
Speaker 2: times worse for anyone trying to pay off a property.
Speaker 2: Anyone at any level in any part of the country
Speaker 2: knows how painful this is. Well, of course, the opinion
Speaker 2: polls have turned against the government.
Speaker 1: You pick in indicies. They are going backwards.
Speaker 2: The Coalition is now in front on the primary vote
Speaker 2: in many and multiple polls around the country. Their margin,
Speaker 2: if the Teals didn't exist, would basically be enough to
Speaker 2: tip out a first term government. But back to the
Speaker 2: politics that seem to work when the joint was on
Speaker 2: fire in twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty three, which
Speaker 2: is to play the man the ball and in this
Speaker 2: case not even the board. Remember when the Labor government
Speaker 2: successfully disgracefully but successfully, was able to convince seemingly the
Speaker 2: majority of the Australians, if not most of the media,
Speaker 2: that the actual reason and the only reason that interest
Speaker 2: rates were going up was because of the mustache twirling
Speaker 2: former Governor of the Reserve Bank, Philip Lowe. Remember all
Speaker 2: of the garbage and nonsense around him that oh, this
Speaker 2: was this millionaire who was out of touch and he
Speaker 2: was just having fun shoving up the rates. Well, of course,
Speaker 2: the reality is that even after they changed the governor,
Speaker 2: the rates kept going up, and even after they planned
Speaker 2: to completely remake the Reserve Bank board, including to shove
Speaker 2: union members on it, rates will not be coming down
Speaker 2: for the rest of the year. Well, now it's time
Speaker 2: to start bashing the Reserve Bank again, despite the fact
Speaker 2: that when it was one interest rate rise it was
Speaker 2: all Scott Morrison's faulton. It was all personal and there
Speaker 2: was nothing cyclical and nobody else was making the deceaseis
Speaker 2: when there have been a further twelve interest rate rises.
Speaker 2: It's now time to go back to the Philip low playbook.
Speaker 2: Let's make Australians think that it is the out of touch,
Speaker 2: nasty people at the Reserve Bank, not the federal government
Speaker 2: that has failed to be able to bring inflation back
Speaker 2: to where everyone agreed it should.
Speaker 3: Be, which is between two and three percent.
Speaker 2: You've seen it before, but i'll play it again for
Speaker 2: those that have just whacked on the Telly Jim charmers,
Speaker 2: shifting the blame.
Speaker 6: The combination of global economic uncertainty and higher interest rates
Speaker 6: is smashing household budgets and slowing our economy considerably.
Speaker 2: Now he's made other critical comments about the Preserve Bank.
Speaker 2: He is trying to push through in the Parliament a
Speaker 2: new way of constituting the bank that, as I said,
Speaker 2: would have on it, not the experienced people that have
Speaker 2: been managing the Australian economy through good times and bad
Speaker 2: for a long period of time. Oh no, no, no, this
Speaker 2: is going to be the mates, the mates that will
Speaker 2: do what he politically wants, like he's done so with
Speaker 2: almost every other organ that advises the government on economic policy.
Speaker 2: But just in case you think that this has always
Speaker 2: been his long held view that the Preserve Bank was
Speaker 2: in a different place compared to the government. And when
Speaker 2: a reserve bank is in a different place than the government,
Speaker 2: we are in a serious financial issue here. You want
Speaker 2: the co pilots of the Australian economy to be headed
Speaker 2: in the right direction, and that is the same direction.
Speaker 2: Here's what he said when he was pretending that they
Speaker 2: were one and the same.
Speaker 6: This is a welcome decision from the Reserve Bank because
Speaker 6: it recognizes the pressures that people are under. What I've
Speaker 6: tried to do as Treasurer indeed before that as well,
Speaker 6: is not the preempt or second guess decisions taken by
Speaker 6: the Reserve Bank. Or the Reserve Bank takes these decisions independently,
Speaker 6: and as you know, I do my best not to
Speaker 6: second guess them.
Speaker 2: Well, my mate and occasional sparring partner over the years,
Speaker 2: Peter van Onslin, he's now the head of the political
Speaker 2: coverage of the Daily mailsolutely lines up and quite correctly
Speaker 2: Jim Charmers today for this garbage of trying to presen
Speaker 2: that he knows more than anyone else about how the
Speaker 2: economy should be working. He starts his article by saying
Speaker 2: the late American Political Center, as p. J. O' rourke,
Speaker 2: once said, that blaming central banks for high interest rates
Speaker 2: is like blaming your bathroom scales when you're put on weight.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what Treasurer Charmers did when you accuse the
Speaker 2: Reserve Bank of smashing the economy with its interest rates strategy. Now, also,
Speaker 2: you may well notice that there is a play which
Speaker 2: is always underway, which is that Jim Charmers is referred
Speaker 2: to as doctor Jim Charmers because the term doctor means
Speaker 2: he's certainly more informed than anyone else and he must
Speaker 2: be a doctor in economics, because that's why he's the treasurer.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, no, you see, in the same way that doctor
Speaker 2: Stephen Miles is a doctor of the way the unions work.
Speaker 2: Yet he was presented during the pandemic as a doctor,
Speaker 2: as if he was a medical professional. While Queenslanders will
Speaker 2: being kept safe because Queensland hospitals for the queens and people.
Speaker 1: The same applies to this bloke.
Speaker 2: And finally somebody is calling it out in nice, clear
Speaker 2: terms again world done, PVA. He says that all of
Speaker 2: this is undentifying, it is ignorant, it's out of line.
Speaker 1: Readers can decide.
Speaker 2: For themselves on who they trust more when it comes
Speaker 2: to managing the monetary and fiscal policy settings of the economy.
Speaker 2: A treasurer unqualified in economics, whose PhD ie, why do
Speaker 2: we call him a doctor? Is in politics because he
Speaker 2: looked at Paul Keating's political communication, not economics. Or Bullock,
Speaker 2: who was a postgraduate studying economics from the London School
Speaker 2: of Economics no less, and has examined the ins and
Speaker 2: outs of interest rate policy design. Remember, of course she's
Speaker 2: not a newbie. She's been in and around the Reserve
Speaker 2: Bank for a long time. Oh, if the assumption is
Speaker 2: let's just get rid of the old wood because it
Speaker 2: doesn't give us what we want, and let's get a
Speaker 2: bunch of people that will give us politically what we want.
Speaker 2: We you don't have an independent central bank anymore. So again,
Speaker 2: this bloke decided to go off like a two bob
Speaker 2: watch when interest.
Speaker 1: Rates went up once.
Speaker 2: Oh, the former Prime Minister will only accept the good
Speaker 2: and shift the blame for the bad. Well, that is
Speaker 2: exactly what this bloke does. And he's been in charge
Speaker 2: of an economy for the past couple of years that
Speaker 2: has only got worse. Now, of course they will say
Speaker 2: it's all global, it's all cyclical.
Speaker 1: Australia is no different than anywhere else. And that is true.
Speaker 1: But that was true before the last selection.
Speaker 2: But you mate, made the promise that life would get
Speaker 2: better if people voted for the Labor Party.
Speaker 1: Instead it has got worse.
Speaker 2: You are the people who promised the cost of living
Speaker 2: would be dealt with.
Speaker 1: Of course it has got worse. You other people who.
Speaker 2: Said that one interest rate rise was a sign of
Speaker 2: a cost of living crisis, Well what happens when you
Speaker 2: add twelve to that. Now you've been able to hoodwink
Speaker 2: the press gallery into pretending that the thirteenth will be
Speaker 2: the problem. Well, I can tell you on behalf of
Speaker 2: anyone else who's trying to pay a bloody house off.
Speaker 2: There's just as much pain at thirteen as there was twelve, eleven, ten, nine, eight, seven,
Speaker 2: six and five. People have had to find money that
Speaker 2: they would otherwise have been able to spend on everything
Speaker 2: from private health to being able to pay for their kids' sport. Now,
Speaker 2: I know I talk about it every night. I know
Speaker 2: for some people that's a little boring, but the reality
Speaker 2: is we have to talk about it every night.
Speaker 3: Because this is the only thing that matters.
Speaker 2: They can distract you with a whole bunch of garbage,
Speaker 2: including the personal life of the Prime Minister. They can
Speaker 2: pretend it's everyone else's fault. Well guess what. Let's compare
Speaker 2: not just Australia with Australia, but Australia with the rest
Speaker 2: of the world. Because if the rest of the world
Speaker 2: has gone through all the same problem. Could somebody please
Speaker 2: tell me why Australia's inflation rate is higher than the
Speaker 2: countries that we consider ourselves to be rather similar to
Speaker 2: the countries where inflation is a number one issue driving
Speaker 2: people to change governments. In the United States two point nine,
Speaker 2: were three point eight, the United Kingdom change to government
Speaker 2: two point two, in Canada two and a half. They're
Speaker 2: about to change the government. And in Japan, while they
Speaker 2: change the government every five minutes. Australia is almost double
Speaker 2: some of these other countries, particularly places.
Speaker 1: Like the United Kingdom.
Speaker 2: Yet this blog is using all of the studies of
Speaker 2: political communication with all of the other people around to
Speaker 2: tell you that up is down and convince you that
Speaker 2: black is white. The joint is in more trouble than
Speaker 2: it was when they took over. It is so because
Speaker 2: of their fault. Yes, international headwinds have pushed the world
Speaker 2: in a certain direction. But if everyone else has come
Speaker 2: back and we haven't, and the chances of a thirteenth
Speaker 2: interest rate rise is more likely than an interest rate
Speaker 2: drop before next year, then we're in a world of trouble.
Speaker 2: And you can spin as hard as you want, and
Speaker 2: you can sack the PM's media people and all the
Speaker 2: rest of it.
Speaker 1: We won't buy it.
Speaker 2: That's why the Poles are as relentless as they are,
Speaker 2: and it's why we are as laser focused because where
Speaker 2: money is coming from. How much you've got now, worried
Speaker 2: you are about how much you'll have in a month
Speaker 2: is what minions of Australians feel each and every night.
Speaker 2: That's why they come to us. That's why we give
Speaker 2: them the data each and every night. And I'm ever
Speaker 2: so thankful that you are here for this relentless fight. Meantime,
Speaker 2: new Pole, same result, Prime Minister, World of trouble, World
Speaker 2: of trouble. He is now the focal point of a
Speaker 2: government that is going backwards, and he is going backwards
Speaker 2: faster than the government. Now we got the personal us yesterday.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm not distracted by my I don't care.
Speaker 2: I didn't care last week, I don't care. This week
Speaker 2: newspoll comes out. It shows that the Coalition and Labor
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. And this is the bloke who said
Speaker 2: I've never lost in the newspoll when they're drawn, you
Speaker 2: haven't won one. And it's been multiple polls over the
Speaker 2: past couple of years that have put it at damn
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. But you think you're find because those
Speaker 2: teals they'll save you. Those teals will save you. It
Speaker 2: doesn't matter how far you're going to a minority. You'll
Speaker 2: see he'll be the bloke at there at the end,
Speaker 2: puffed out chest.
Speaker 1: Oh, I beat on the critics.
Speaker 2: Well mate, if you lose more seats than you got
Speaker 2: at the last election at the next election, you're going backwards,
Speaker 2: and you're going backwards because the Australians have had enough.
Speaker 2: Well again, let's have a look here at all of
Speaker 2: the major polls and their versions of do you approve
Speaker 2: or disapprove of the Prime Minister? All of them have
Speaker 2: more than half the country saying this blokes are dud.
Speaker 2: This bloke is not doing the job we asked him to.
Speaker 2: This bloke is not up to the cut. A lovely
Speaker 2: bloke he may be, and all the rest of it,
Speaker 2: but he ain't.
Speaker 1: Up to it.
Speaker 2: It is why he is weak, It is why it
Speaker 2: is rattled. It is why he is constantly looking over
Speaker 2: his shoulder. No one from the Labor Party will knock
Speaker 2: him off because that's the way their system works. But
Speaker 2: the Australian people might think about doing it, if not
Speaker 2: at this election, most likely at some other point into
Speaker 2: the future. But let's be honest, this bloke is behind
Speaker 2: the eight ball. He's behind the eight ball because of
Speaker 2: his own performance. Now he can't blame the media. The
Speaker 2: media always in his pocket. The media let him get
Speaker 2: away with blue murder. The media never question him for
Speaker 2: more than a day in a row on something he
Speaker 2: doesn't like. The media puts up with garbage that when
Speaker 2: he flies overseas multiple times as airbus elbow, flying around
Speaker 2: in a plane that he nicknames after his freaking dog, Toto.
Speaker 2: Oh don't we all love Toto.
Speaker 1: Seriously?
Speaker 2: And they all go along with the idea that when
Speaker 2: he's overseas he can't possibly answer any questions about what's
Speaker 2: happening here in Australia. No, no, no, that wouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 2: We'll have a look at this one. Australians who think
Speaker 2: the country has had it in the right direction again,
Speaker 2: everyone who does this pole shows that we're heading in
Speaker 2: a very bad direction. Fifty two percent in the pole
Speaker 2: that turns up in the Guardian. Now the Guardian, of
Speaker 2: course they love this bloke. They love this bloke because
Speaker 2: they know what he's been in the past, what he
Speaker 2: is in his heart, and even if the Green numbers
Speaker 2: go up, he'll still be the Prime Minister, will give
Speaker 2: them what they want. Remember, his political advisors come from
Speaker 2: the Guardian, the Resolve Pole in the Channel nine papers,
Speaker 2: six percent, six out of ten people in any one
Speaker 2: room believe the joints headed in the wrong direction. Now
Speaker 2: his personal numbers keep going backwards because his personal brand
Speaker 2: of politics doesn't work anymore. He has not been able
Speaker 2: to make the transition from opposition to government because no
Speaker 2: one believes he's actually in charge.
Speaker 1: Now we know he is in charge.
Speaker 2: The decisions they are making are making things worse, but
Speaker 2: they spend billions of dollars on political slogans to make
Speaker 2: it seem like they're helping everyone's power bills. It's twenty
Speaker 2: five dollars a month every tax payer. It's fourteen dollars
Speaker 2: a week for the people who need it most. Now
Speaker 2: at this stage, while people say that they are not
Speaker 2: impressed with the Prime Minister, they are not flocking at
Speaker 2: the moment to the opposition. Tonight, we'll talk about the
Speaker 2: phenomena of where they go in between, about whether people
Speaker 2: go further or left further to right, or they just
Speaker 2: find a way to cash out of domestic politics. A
Speaker 2: great conversation coming up in a moment or two. Time
Speaker 2: we follow the data. We have opinions, plenty of them,
Speaker 2: they get as loud as we can be, but that
Speaker 2: we always start from the same place, reality based off facts, which.
Speaker 1: Brings me here.
Speaker 2: You know how much passion I have about where our
Speaker 2: country's going when it comes to our kids. For obvious reasons,
Speaker 2: My little girls are all I care about in the world. Obviously,
Speaker 2: my beautiful wife, you get my point, But the kids
Speaker 2: a one priority. Why Because they're my future, they're our
Speaker 2: famili's future. And your kids and your grandkids are exactly
Speaker 2: the same. What we see yet again today, more evidence
Speaker 2: about how the kids aren't all right.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 2: This extends to everything from their education to their mental health,
Speaker 2: but nearly half of all high school students feel like
Speaker 2: they don't belong. Since twenty sixteen, the Department of Education
Speaker 2: in New South Wales has been asking a whole series
Speaker 2: of questions about belonging in our schools. The blue line
Speaker 2: is primary schools, the red line is secondary schools. Let's
Speaker 2: have a look here. Eighty percent of kids in primary
Speaker 2: school in twenty sixteen felt a sense of belonging about
Speaker 2: sixty high sixties for primary school. Now primary's gone from
Speaker 2: eighty to sixty eight in the mid.
Speaker 1: Sixties, in high school down to the mid fifties.
Speaker 2: To break this down even more for you, let's have
Speaker 2: a look at primary schools. You can see that the
Speaker 2: blue dot is how they felt in twenty nineteen were
Speaker 2: girls seventy five percent of them felt a sense of belonging.
Speaker 2: The darker dot is twenty twenty one, and the red
Speaker 2: dot is twenty thirteen. Basically a ten point swing for girls,
Speaker 2: basically a ten point swing for boys. Look at that
Speaker 2: socioeconomic number. People in a low socioeconomic situation have gone
Speaker 2: from a sense of belonging at seventy percent down to
Speaker 2: sixty percent, ten points down in higher socioeconomic For Indigenous people,
Speaker 2: it's gone from the mid sixties to now, sorry, the
Speaker 2: mid seventies. Again down to the mid sixties, and again
Speaker 2: another ten points for non Aboriginal kids. So every age group,
Speaker 2: every bracket, everywhere, over what sixteen years, our kids are
Speaker 2: going backward about a sense of belonging. It's secondary schools
Speaker 2: again ten points down for girls, slightly less about five
Speaker 2: points for boys, for lower socioeconomic again, about ten points
Speaker 2: for higher socioeconomic again, about seven points for Aboriginal kids.
Speaker 2: It's now well below forty five percent for non Aboriginal
Speaker 2: kids from sixty five to about sixty percent. What does
Speaker 2: all of this mean? What does sense of belonging mean?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Again, the easy conversation here is it's all about how
Speaker 2: they feel about the national flag and Australia Day and
Speaker 2: ANZAC data.
Speaker 1: No, it's more complicated than that. Let's read though.
Speaker 2: The Nisubas Department of Education released eight years of data
Speaker 2: of a thing called them Tell Them from Me surveys,
Speaker 2: which asks students about their sense of belonging in school,
Speaker 2: including if they felt included and accepted ten point drop
Speaker 2: in virtually every indices primary school, high school over the
Speaker 2: past years from sixteen to twenty three. Education experts say
Speaker 2: disrupted learning during the pandemic. Now, of course that only
Speaker 2: equates not from the numbers from twenty sixteen. We're out
Speaker 2: of the pandemic now, but they ruined a generation of kids.
Speaker 1: These were all the people.
Speaker 2: Who were saying keep out of the schools, schools of
Speaker 2: petri dishes, all of that garbage, all of that crap.
Speaker 2: This generation of school leadership and the schools and the
Speaker 2: public health officials and the Karens from the ABC. No
Speaker 2: offense to Karens, but you get my point. They've ruined
Speaker 2: a generation unruly classrooms that of course is about discipline
Speaker 2: doesn't cost a cent. Instead, you should be re empowering
Speaker 2: the teachers to have control in their classroom. Buying not allowed,
Speaker 2: social media screen years, declining mental health, the sense of
Speaker 2: belonging down ten points from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: You can't possibly blame this federal government because what would
Speaker 2: be the difference between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: We've got a different federal government. What would you blame
Speaker 2: at the state level. Well, most of them are the
Speaker 2: same labor governments, with the exception of places like New
Speaker 2: South Wales. Doctor Jennifer buck Buckingham, the new executive of
Speaker 2: the Department's Center for Education Statistics and Evaluation, said there
Speaker 2: was likely a knock on effect motivation and academic achievement
Speaker 2: if students did not feel as though they fit in.
Speaker 1: Are you paying attention? I know you are.
Speaker 2: The education ministers, the prime ministers, the premiers, the chief
Speaker 2: political correspondence, Hello, are you awake? Data is telling us
Speaker 2: that kids feel that sense of belonging has gone backwards
Speaker 2: in ten years. Belonging, remember, is about feeling included and accepted.
Speaker 2: Why don't they anyone going to find out chance of
Speaker 2: a four corner story into that? Or is it always
Speaker 2: more interesting to have a go at your media rivals
Speaker 2: to try to fit up your political opponents. Anyone anywhere
Speaker 2: want to put some work into this, because I'll give
Speaker 2: it an airing. I'll devote as much time as possible
Speaker 2: to it. The kids aren't all right, Talk to them
Speaker 2: as best you can, love them as much as you do,
Speaker 2: help them even more than you currently do, because it's
Speaker 2: the future of the country and all of us are
Speaker 2: invested in it heart and soul.
Speaker 3: When I was standing there in the room in Jundala.
Speaker 2: Last night, there was an audible gasp when I told
Speaker 2: the story about how the federal government is spending other
Speaker 2: people's money, how they use your money.
Speaker 1: To pile up against the wall.
Speaker 2: They spend twenty thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars and flying
Speaker 2: a bloke to India to play the digitido for a
Speaker 2: sort of pointless How good is cricket event because of
Speaker 2: course Australia will be playing India this summer. Twenty thousand dollars. Now,
Speaker 2: if you saw last night' show, you know what I'm
Speaker 2: about to show you. If you didn't, well we have
Speaker 2: a Sunday show as well. Make sure you always watch those,
Speaker 2: and make sure you watch the ourtowns as well. But
Speaker 2: Teresa Tucker, she runs a thing called Fostering Hope in
Speaker 2: that part of Perth, but it is a national organization
Speaker 2: and she makes the same point that everyone does twenty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars on this meaningless expenditure versus twenty thousand dollars
Speaker 2: for someone like her to be able to help foster
Speaker 2: kids who, as she told us last night, turn up
Speaker 2: on her doorstep with nothing but a plastic bag rather the.
Speaker 8: Tape you just spoke a minute ago about that guyd
Speaker 8: I got twenty thousand for that digit. We do with things, Yeah,
Speaker 8: that would have gone. It's such a long way for us. Yes,
Speaker 8: look at all those homes that would have been filled
Speaker 8: with stuff for them to take home, natgies and wipes
Speaker 8: and everything.
Speaker 2: This is what we talk about every night. The government
Speaker 2: pats itself on the back because it has a surplus.
Speaker 2: Now with that surplus, they have to pay off some
Speaker 2: of the debt. But they don't really care about the
Speaker 2: debt because if they really cared about the debt, they
Speaker 2: would change the structural deficit, which means we're going to
Speaker 2: spend more than we earn for the next forty five years.
Speaker 2: Remember that's the Intergeneration Report. So currently, when you've got
Speaker 2: more than you know how to spend, feel free to
Speaker 2: spend it. Not on did you redo players in India,
Speaker 2: but on people like her and the hundreds and eight
Speaker 2: thousands of organizations known and unknown who are helping fill
Speaker 2: the gaps.
Speaker 1: Today. On the health front, there are some potentially very
Speaker 1: good news for people who have been exposed to prostate cancer. Now.
Speaker 2: Fascinatingly, they followed in on a bloke who it was
Speaker 2: in his seventies, was a little bit worried about his health,
Speaker 2: did the tests, cancer was everywhere. He then went through
Speaker 2: a new treatment and apparently the cancer backed as out
Speaker 2: the back door.
Speaker 1: Have a look.
Speaker 9: Rob was one of one hundred and sixty two men
Speaker 9: to take part in the trial, led by Professor Louise
Speaker 9: Emmett and funded by November and the federal government. About
Speaker 9: half we're given a hormone ends alutamide, while the other
Speaker 9: half were given ends alutamide as well as radiation treatment
Speaker 9: lutetium PSMA six one seven. Professor Emmett found patients on
Speaker 9: the combination therapy doubled their response to treatment with fewer
Speaker 9: side effects.
Speaker 2: Now you know that while the brand is no longer here,
Speaker 2: I bleed read I love Holden.
Speaker 1: I love Brocky.
Speaker 2: He is on that Mount Rushmore, one of the great
Speaker 2: kings of Australia. You know how much I love motorsport
Speaker 2: and anything that he touched or had any influence in.
Speaker 2: My dear friend Peter Chapman and the lovely good people
Speaker 2: at HDT they keep.
Speaker 1: Much of this memory alive. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's the Bitter, but somebody has
Speaker 2: bought one of the race cars that Peter Brook was
Speaker 2: banging around in. In fact, in nineteen ninety one. According
Speaker 2: to Lloyd's this thing has gone for two hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty five thousand dollars. If only I had one power ball,
Speaker 2: this would be me on a Saturday afternoon. In the meantime,
Speaker 2: it's the King in the ninety one Bathist.
Speaker 1: He's really on fire at the Mountain this year.
Speaker 10: Johnson just ahead Peter Brock a master of this and
Speaker 10: as Legs a master corner.
Speaker 3: It doesn't require too much.
Speaker 1: In the way of commentary.
Speaker 10: Just listened to that awsome va.
Speaker 2: Oh that's sweet Bergan music. I love it anyway, well
Speaker 2: done whoever bought it? If it is you, can he
Speaker 2: get in touch? Take me for a spin now. Tim Waaltz,
Speaker 2: he is the Minnesota governor. He is the bloke who
Speaker 2: pretends to be all folksy but really is about as
Speaker 2: hardcore left as anyone from New York or from California.
Speaker 2: He has been picked by Kamala Harris to be her
Speaker 2: vice president should she win the next election.
Speaker 1: He's having a bad week. Let me tell you how
Speaker 1: it started.
Speaker 2: His brother has posted online and now people starting to
Speaker 2: notice that his brother can't stand him. He says there's
Speaker 2: many stories he could tell and he's one hundred percent
Speaker 2: opposed to everything that this blokes about. When he does
Speaker 2: an innyview, that'll be fun to watch the media ignore it. Meantime,
Speaker 2: today he was at a local state fair in Minnesota,
Speaker 2: and he was more than happy to take the easy questions.
Speaker 11: I don't get twelve days which I normally get a
Speaker 11: balance lag in the state of Minnesota and running for press.
Speaker 1: Now they've got a good team on the car, being
Speaker 1: able to manage my skip. Now he can hear the reporters.
Speaker 1: But look what happens when he.
Speaker 2: Gets a questioned he doesn't want to answer. That's way
Speaker 2: more important than how awesome is this state?
Speaker 1: Fair?
Speaker 7: Than you?
Speaker 1: Why I should send his step.
Speaker 10: Half something down the end?
Speaker 12: Double line?
Speaker 7: Thanks everybody.
Speaker 2: They honestly, they think you're not watching right. Spread this
Speaker 2: video as wide and as far as you possibly can.
Speaker 2: But why is this we going to get? Particularly bad?
Speaker 2: Because our dear friend Meghan Carey is sitting down with
Speaker 2: a bunch of people who served with him in the
Speaker 2: Minnesota National Guard. Now, long story short, he was in
Speaker 2: that service for some twenty something years, but he pulled
Speaker 2: the pin before they were sent to a rack.
Speaker 1: Now he knew they.
Speaker 2: Were being sent to a ruk, but he got out
Speaker 2: before they had to go to a ruck because he,
Speaker 2: of course, was running for Congress. Why will it be
Speaker 2: a bad week for Tim Waltz because the people who
Speaker 2: served under him are giving an interview. It goes to
Speaker 2: where between now and the next time we see you
Speaker 2: on Meghan Kelly's show tonight Australian Time.
Speaker 7: Why did you come forward?
Speaker 13: It is morally in the past, he didn't care that
Speaker 13: it was all about him.
Speaker 1: He's a military and.
Speaker 14: Person who I don't understand how he could do it
Speaker 14: morally or where you got to absolute.
Speaker 2: Nor attacking you When the people who served with you
Speaker 2: turn on you because you cut and run, there's going
Speaker 2: to be a problem no matter how hard the media
Speaker 2: wants to ignore it.
Speaker 1: We won't.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it and obviously talked to Meghan later
Speaker 2: in the week show How they lie about Trump?
Speaker 1: Now? Is Trump perfect?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: Does he get things wrong while every human does. Does
Speaker 2: he sometimes say things we don't agree with? Yes, of
Speaker 2: course we're all human. But last week he was at
Speaker 2: Arlington National Cemetery, the main and most sacred sarah mines
Speaker 2: that are done at a cemetery in Washington.
Speaker 5: D C.
Speaker 2: Where the war dead or they are laid to rest.
Speaker 2: And you may well have heard a version of this
Speaker 2: in the past week about how apparently disgraceful this act
Speaker 2: was from Donald Trump. Kamala Harris, who of course didn't
Speaker 2: write this tweet but presumably saw it before it was
Speaker 2: sent out. She says as Vice President, I have had
Speaker 2: the privilege of visiting Arlington National Cemetery several times. It's
Speaker 2: a solemn place. Will we come together to honor American
Speaker 2: heroes who have made the ultimate sacrifice in the service
Speaker 2: of the nation.
Speaker 1: It is not a place for politics.
Speaker 2: And yet, as was reported this week, Donald Trump's team
Speaker 2: chose to film a video that's what you saw, by
Speaker 2: the way, which was news coverage, resulting in an altercation
Speaker 2: with cemetery staff. Again, that makes it seem like it's Trump.
Speaker 2: It wasn't, and even the people who allegedly saw it
Speaker 2: say it was not as has been described in the media.
Speaker 2: But this will be like the both sides, all the
Speaker 2: other crap that they say about him that eventually becomes
Speaker 2: fact no matter how many times you say it's not.
Speaker 2: Let me be clear, the former president disrespected sacred ground
Speaker 2: all for the sake.
Speaker 1: Of a political stunt. Will bugger you, duh? Let me
Speaker 1: tell you why.
Speaker 2: Because the reason he was there was because on the
Speaker 2: very day that you last person in the room, and
Speaker 2: you mate, Joe Biden, decided to cut and run from Afghanistan,
Speaker 2: where people died literally holding onto the planes that were
Speaker 2: flying out at the time, where you and the greatest
Speaker 2: president of all time, the mount Rushmore, the amazing democracy
Speaker 2: loving Joe Biden left all of the equipment to be
Speaker 2: sold off by the Taliban and Bagram Air Based to
Speaker 2: now be taken over by the Chinese. Thirteen service people die.
Speaker 2: They died in a suicide bomb as somebody was trying
Speaker 2: to stop people leaving the country. Those thirteen service people
Speaker 2: are barely recognized in the years after what happened.
Speaker 1: It's three years ago.
Speaker 2: You may remember when they returned to the United States.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden while their bodies were being taken from the
Speaker 2: back of the plane, he was looking at his watch.
Speaker 2: How long has this got to go? But of course
Speaker 2: that's never been a scandal. Nothing to see here. Well,
Speaker 2: these families are furious because they have never got answers
Speaker 2: about what really happened, and the service has not truly
Speaker 2: been recognized by the very administration that would have to
Speaker 2: admit it had fault. Remember Joe Biden, yes, melting before
Speaker 2: our eyes, said nobody had died on his watch. These
Speaker 2: thirteen people were among those who had These people have
Speaker 2: previously come out as families to criticize Biden and Harris
Speaker 2: for the way that they got out of Afghanistan well.
Speaker 2: In response to the Kamala Harris cherry, on the top
Speaker 2: of a week of bs about what was really going
Speaker 2: on at Arlington Cemetery, many members of those thirteen families
Speaker 2: decided to release videos explaining why Donald Trump was there.
Speaker 2: The first and all say, of course, because he was invited.
Speaker 2: He was invited by them because he has always talked
Speaker 2: to them. He has never ignored them, He has not
Speaker 2: pushed them to one side. He has not pretended that
Speaker 2: they didn't die or that they don't exist.
Speaker 1: Here's the first.
Speaker 14: And Trump was invaded by those families who have their
Speaker 14: soldiers buried at Arlington. They were invaded there as a friend,
Speaker 14: as somebody who has taken the time numerous times, on
Speaker 14: numerous occasions to hear our stories, to speak our kids' names.
Speaker 2: Nicall griefside.
Speaker 14: President Trump and his team were respectful, They listened to
Speaker 14: our stories and didn't talk much at all.
Speaker 10: We welcomed them that day and.
Speaker 2: They were again respectful invited. The families have made it
Speaker 2: very clear he was at the cemetery because their family
Speaker 2: members died three years ago because of the decisions of
Speaker 2: Biden and Harris. He was invited because he cared, and
Speaker 2: Harris and Biden didn't. Biden checked his freaking watch when
Speaker 2: they were coming off the planes. Again, if you see
Speaker 2: or hear, or read or have anyone repeat this crap.
Speaker 1: It's a lie.
Speaker 3: He was there because the families wanted him there.
Speaker 12: Why did we want Trump there? There wasn't to help
Speaker 12: his political campaign. We wanted a leader that explains why
Speaker 12: you and Joe didn't get a call. Imagine for a
Speaker 12: second that your kid is killed and there's a president
Speaker 12: in the United States willing to take you under his
Speaker 12: wing and listen to you. That's what we found in
Speaker 12: President Trump. Certainly not you, and certainly not Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: In the country that I know cares so much about service,
Speaker 2: it matters that if the families of thirteen people who
Speaker 2: died because of the decisions that you made are turning
Speaker 2: to one candidate, that is.
Speaker 1: For a reason.
Speaker 2: If the people who served with the vice presidential candidate
Speaker 2: of Kamala Harris are now coming out and saying that
Speaker 2: he cut and run. They went to Iraq. Waltz didn't
Speaker 2: He ran for Congress, He became governor. And it looks
Speaker 2: like the slippery slope may end all the way.
Speaker 1: In the White House. More on a secure on Pomorary life.
Speaker 2: Plenty to talk about, Plenty to debate, Mattcanavan, Sam Crosby,
Speaker 2: Lots to get to include how the big wins have
Speaker 2: affected big renewables today. Surprise, surprise, the system doesn't work
Speaker 2: the way they tell you.
Speaker 1: More in a second.
Speaker 2: So much to talk about with lovely Sam Crosby, who
Speaker 2: is here in the man cave telling me to pop.
Speaker 1: Up and not be so angry.
Speaker 2: I'm passionate, so angry, I'm so angry, passion of mine
Speaker 2: I could see take and smiles of the joys of
Speaker 2: the Paralympics and footy and fun and.
Speaker 1: For me anyway, blad to Happy Father's Day.
Speaker 2: Happy, had a great day, same as you, Matt Canavan,
Speaker 2: of course, Senator Matt Canavan, Happy Father's Day to you, mate,
Speaker 2: Hope it was a good one in FMQ.
Speaker 1: So let's talk.
Speaker 2: About this wild weather and its effect on renewable energy.
Speaker 2: Now we've seen scenarios where the wind was so aggressive
Speaker 2: that at certain points the system was being turned off.
Speaker 2: Have I got that right, Matt, Because that obviously wouldn't
Speaker 2: happen if we're talking about nuclear, and obviously wouldn't happen
Speaker 2: if we're talking about cole and obviously wouldn't happen if
Speaker 2: we're talking about gas. But this is what they want,
Speaker 2: eighty three percent of the grid.
Speaker 1: Dab.
Speaker 13: Yeah, there is a real lesson in what happened yesterday,
Speaker 13: because your rights are. Lots of solar farms were switched
Speaker 13: off yesterday across the country, apparently up to eighty percent
Speaker 13: of them at one stage, switched off at once. The
Speaker 13: reason they have to switch them off is because they
Speaker 13: need to keep a minimum amount of thermal stabilizing generating
Speaker 13: power in the system. That is effectively coal in our system.
Speaker 13: They need something that is big and can move and
Speaker 13: spin and keep the frequency of the system at a
Speaker 13: stable rate.
Speaker 7: So look, this gets very complicated.
Speaker 13: Of course, But the problems emerge when politicians who don't
Speaker 13: understand these complexities like to say things like let's go
Speaker 13: to eighty two percent renewables. The problem is, how are
Speaker 13: you going to keep that system stable? The wind farms
Speaker 13: spin at different rates, not at fifty hertz the frequency
Speaker 13: that our electrical equipment uses. Solar is a direct current technology.
Speaker 13: It doesn't help balance the alternating current system that is
Speaker 13: our grid. So I'm getting really technical here, Paul, But
Speaker 13: that's the problem. We need that reliable base load in
Speaker 13: the system. And the very fact that you can't switch
Speaker 13: off too much of it shows how Labour's fantasy of
Speaker 13: going to eighty two percent would asolutely destroy our grid.
Speaker 13: And there were a lot more damage than we're already
Speaker 13: experiencing right now in our power bills.
Speaker 2: I love the detail because it helps educate the audience.
Speaker 2: It helps educate me, Sam, educate us while we're wrong.
Speaker 11: Oh look, no renewable, no power sources is perfect. You know,
Speaker 11: we saw two weeks ago there were earthquakes at the
Speaker 11: site of one of Peter Dutton's proposed nuclear sites. I
Speaker 11: can't imagine that would be particularly good if that happens
Speaker 11: when there's a nuclear power station on.
Speaker 7: Has that ever been a problem?
Speaker 2: That earthquake was at best a couple of things fell
Speaker 2: off the shelf, right that the idea that should and
Speaker 2: when you put a nuclear reactor over that, maybe the
Speaker 2: consequence is going to be slightly worth.
Speaker 1: On an issue.
Speaker 7: They're built to withstand those anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but no nuclear power no, but how
Speaker 2: station is By picking wind as an examples, such a
Speaker 2: lot has to come from.
Speaker 1: Aren't the variables more risky?
Speaker 3: Potentially you can model this out.
Speaker 11: This is not like we're Robinson Crusoe here, right, This
Speaker 11: is not like no one else in the world production
Speaker 11: where it's not all those before Russia invaded Ukraine it
Speaker 11: was yes, it was yes, it was.
Speaker 3: Policy days after it had had come on.
Speaker 11: It doesn't matter how the UK it doesn't matter how
Speaker 11: it was No one expected.
Speaker 13: That doesn't matter because cold prices are back down. Cold
Speaker 13: prices are back down. Still behigh, but not overly high levels.
Speaker 13: That's the end of the reason there.
Speaker 11: At the end of the day. At the end of
Speaker 11: the day, there are there are wind turbines all around
Speaker 11: the world using battery technology to firm up the grid.
Speaker 11: There are wind turbines all around the world. Nuclear and
Speaker 11: I've always said that we should back it by gas
Speaker 11: or you're not in the longer term, we should back
Speaker 11: it by batteries absolutely.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk about charmers and the blade.
Speaker 13: They can't provide the services I'm speaking about that I
Speaker 13: just spoke about.
Speaker 7: SAM.
Speaker 13: Batteries can't do that. Again, they're direct current, they're not
Speaker 13: alternating current. Our system is based on a system that
Speaker 13: requires like one thing to demonstrate this is in your
Speaker 13: house right now. Your lights are flicking on and off.
Speaker 13: You don't see it with a human eye, but they're
Speaker 13: flicking on and off because they run on a fifty
Speaker 13: hertz sign wave. And if we don't have a hydro
Speaker 13: or coal or gas that can run and spin at
Speaker 13: that frequency and correct others things like wind that don't
Speaker 13: spread spin at that frequency, our whole grid will fail
Speaker 13: and electrical equipment will fail. So what they have to do,
Speaker 13: what they're trying to plan to do, is build massive,
Speaker 13: big spinning wheels, but don't generate power themselves, but need
Speaker 13: power to try and stabilize the system. We're trying to
Speaker 13: do something that has never been done before, and that's
Speaker 13: what we're getting all of these problems, and it's sort
Speaker 13: of weird. Why are we rushing into this in such
Speaker 13: a ridiculous, arbitrary and artificial way, all at the cost
Speaker 13: of higher power prices. The modeling that labor did, you
Speaker 13: said it should be modeled out. They modeled it, and
Speaker 13: they said they'd reduced powers by two seventy five. You say, Ukraine,
Speaker 13: But coal gas prices are back down at reasonable naval levels.
Speaker 7: Now it's got nothing to do with Ukraine.
Speaker 13: Their modeling was out, They're modeling was hopeless, and their
Speaker 13: plan is hopeless. And the sooner we get away from
Speaker 13: it and get back to the latter common sense, the
Speaker 13: better for the rest of us.
Speaker 2: Sam, what is the four d chess behind charmers having
Speaker 2: a crack at the RBA. I know, with Philip Low
Speaker 2: and the very start of their term, they were able
Speaker 2: to pretend there was something structurally that was going on
Speaker 2: that was wrong. But when they threw all the when
Speaker 2: they said that the former prime Minister was in a
Speaker 2: world of pain at one interest rate rise, we've now
Speaker 2: seen twelve more chance of a thirteenth.
Speaker 1: Isn't it concerning to.
Speaker 2: You that our inflation is higher than the US, the UK,
Speaker 2: than places like Japan, Canada? I quoted before, This feels
Speaker 2: like getting through the week rather than actually talking about
Speaker 2: the problem.
Speaker 11: I think it is a sign of a very healthy
Speaker 11: democracy when you can credit size the RBA.
Speaker 3: I have absolutely no problems, not the government.
Speaker 11: What really, I come on this show and you say,
Speaker 11: no one can criticize the government, really, Paul, But the
Speaker 11: RBA is a human institution, and like all human institutions,
Speaker 11: they are fallible, you know. Philip Low, yes, of course,
Speaker 11: in I think it was March or February made that
Speaker 11: immortal statement that interest rates are going to stay low
Speaker 11: for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1: Clearly he was wrong.
Speaker 11: For the last ten years, every single prediction of wag's
Speaker 11: growth has been wrong. Every single one has been wrong.
Speaker 11: You know, I think it's fair enough that we say, well,
Speaker 11: let's look at the bank and have a conversation about
Speaker 11: so if.
Speaker 1: They're in the wrong place.
Speaker 2: The Greens say that the current legislation gives the Treasure
Speaker 2: of the capacity to overrule the decision of the Reserve
Speaker 2: Bank at any one time. Do you think that he
Speaker 2: should be if they came tomorrow and said we're going
Speaker 2: up thirteen, that he turns around and says.
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't think you should do that.
Speaker 11: I think you should put in place better voices around
Speaker 11: the table so that you can have a conversation.
Speaker 1: On union hacks.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, no, no, no, no, I was just going to say that,
Speaker 11: absolutely you want to talk about mates, No, no, let's talk
Speaker 11: about wages policy. Wages policy or sorry, wages calculation is
Speaker 11: one of the things that they got wrong ten times
Speaker 11: out of ten.
Speaker 1: Okay, now.
Speaker 11: When they were saying, oh, we expect wages to go
Speaker 11: up four or five percent this year, every single union
Speaker 11: secretary in the country was saying, in what industry, my
Speaker 11: guys aren't getting four five percent, Their guys aren't getting
Speaker 11: four five percent. Every single union secretory in the country
Speaker 11: thought that was madness, except the boffins at the RBA.
Speaker 11: They were saying, no, no, no, we've got this model
Speaker 11: labor market elasticity that's going to show that it's going
Speaker 11: to go up.
Speaker 1: Every single one was wrong.
Speaker 11: I think having a couple of those union secretaries sitting
Speaker 11: round the table saying, guys, none of us are experiencing
Speaker 11: the union land, none of us are experiencing in the
Speaker 11: real world, might say this is why you've got it wrong.
Speaker 7: Team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that is the result of what he's trying
Speaker 2: to do when it comes to the laws he's trying
Speaker 2: to get through the Parliament. But it's not what he's
Speaker 2: saying at the press conferences.
Speaker 1: Man, what do you think here? Again?
Speaker 2: It worked for them politically, it shouldn't have. It was
Speaker 2: a disgrace to attack the Reserve Bank governor in the
Speaker 2: fashion that they did. Anyone else would have been accused
Speaker 2: of trying to trash an institution, but when it's labor,
Speaker 2: it's all good. What did you think about the game
Speaker 2: they're playing?
Speaker 13: Well, look, I certainly I agree with Sam. I don't
Speaker 13: think the RBA should be somehow above criticism. But I
Speaker 13: don't think it's appropriate for the nation's treasurer to engage
Speaker 13: in this kind of criticism, especially when I can't hit
Speaker 13: back and won't of course, can't defend itself from one
Speaker 13: of the other parts of the team, the Treasury. And
Speaker 13: also if the Treasurer is going to engage in this
Speaker 13: kind of reflection, maybe he should engage in some self
Speaker 13: reflection as well, because he seems to be criticizing the
Speaker 13: RBA in some kind of in next way to wash
Speaker 13: his own hands or absolve himself from any blood. He
Speaker 13: is the nation's treasurer, and I've commented often that I
Speaker 13: think Jim Chalmers seems to think he's a weather man,
Speaker 13: not the Treasury. He's always commenting on the economy. What
Speaker 13: it stayed is this time commenting on playing an economic
Speaker 13: commentator role. What the RBA should or shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 13: You're the treasurer, mate, you can actually influence things. You
Speaker 13: can influence inflation. You could could create pressure off the
Speaker 13: economy to help interest rates be lower, because I'm not
Speaker 13: sure exactly what the ABA can do. And our inflation
Speaker 13: rate is the highest and the developed well, so obviously,
Speaker 13: if it's interest rate decisions have been lower, like Jim
Speaker 13: seems to want to want them to have done, we.
Speaker 7: May even have had higher inflation. That's a very likely outcome.
Speaker 13: What could be done if you want lower interest rates
Speaker 13: and lower inflation is to reduce government spending. And almost
Speaker 13: every economists out there, every credible economist, reckons that their
Speaker 13: Labor Party's first two budgets have been massively splimmetry.
Speaker 7: That's what their own numbers say.
Speaker 13: They've injected forty billion dollars of net spending based on
Speaker 13: their own policy decisions, into the economy across two budgets,
Speaker 13: and that has meant that.
Speaker 7: Interest rates are higher than they would otherwise.
Speaker 2: Be all right, I love this. The big boys have
Speaker 2: come to play. They've got the brains, they got we all.
Speaker 1: Well almost said it. They're ready to fire up and fight.
Speaker 2: That's the main thing, all right, quick breakback with more
Speaker 2: will do so in a second. The dog track that
Speaker 2: is the Bruce Highway and Queens End Labors plan to
Speaker 2: be phishing in Queens Math this Morning's all right, Lad's
Speaker 2: got plenty to talk about in the next little while
Speaker 2: here with none other than Sam Crosby and Mtcanavan, and
Speaker 2: I want to sort of direct a few issues in
Speaker 2: your direction.
Speaker 1: Rather than the argibargie, as much fun as that is.
Speaker 2: The Greens are doubling down on trying to improve their
Speaker 2: primary vote by going after people who rent. Third of
Speaker 2: the country rents. Their primary vote is anywhere between ten
Speaker 2: and fifteen percent. If they can get it up to
Speaker 2: twenty percent or twenty five in certain areas well. Obviously
Speaker 2: they're going to start to challenge for labor seats. That's
Speaker 2: the reason they talk about rent the way that they do,
Speaker 2: and it will be politically effective.
Speaker 1: All right, let's not muck around.
Speaker 2: The Greens in my view, are probably going to have
Speaker 2: quite a good result at the next election, one they
Speaker 2: don't deserve. But they are targeting on this issue. And
Speaker 2: let's be honest here. So today they say that landlords
Speaker 2: and realistic agents could face major fines. What do you
Speaker 2: think about this as the latest place.
Speaker 11: It is a happy hunting ground for them. There is
Speaker 11: a huge amount of unhappy renters out there, and you
Speaker 11: know a huge number of people that are desperate to
Speaker 11: move into the housing market that just simply can't afford
Speaker 11: to the problem they've got is there is absolutely no
Speaker 11: capacity for the federal government to do this, absolutely no capacity.
Speaker 11: It is virtue signaling by saying to these people, you know,
Speaker 11: the Greens care is about X, and it's just crap
Speaker 11: because they can't they can't actually do anything about this.
Speaker 11: You know, equally as disturbing Andrew Bragg's Cotton contribution saying
Speaker 11: you know, he's the Housing Shadow Assistant shadow saying, oh, well,
Speaker 11: if state governments don't meet their housing targets, then they
Speaker 11: shouldn't get the GST allocationally, which again, you know, you
Speaker 11: either believe in a federation where state governments have.
Speaker 7: He didn't, he did not say that. That's well, but.
Speaker 2: Even I'm not even engaged with what he was saying.
Speaker 2: He sort of you know what used to be free
Speaker 2: free wheeling out on the internet. Of course free weell's
Speaker 2: on Channel two, which doesn't and shouldn't lock you guys in.
Speaker 2: But I want to get to map the Great Barrier reef.
Speaker 2: What is the type of fishing that's about to be
Speaker 2: phased out there.
Speaker 7: What are the cons sequences, Well, it has been.
Speaker 13: It has been phased out, Paul, about a year and
Speaker 13: a half ago.
Speaker 7: The environment, it's almost two years ago now.
Speaker 13: The environments just shocked fishermen across Queensland and said we're
Speaker 13: going to ban gil nets overnight. There was no consultation.
Speaker 13: It's destroyed businesses. One thing I didn't even quite realize myself.
Speaker 13: It was all market about the Great Battery. But last
Speaker 13: week I caught up some fishermen in Mariba, Jamie and
Speaker 13: Bevan and it also affected the golf fisheries as well
Speaker 13: on the other side of Queensland. And they'd spent thousands
Speaker 13: of dollars building a processing center in Mariba and ten
Speaker 13: your plips that comes along and makes his decision, as
Speaker 13: I say, overnight in response to pressure from you NESCo
Speaker 13: or u n body, and they've had their business destroyed
Speaker 13: because of that decision.
Speaker 7: No one spoke to them, No one talks to them.
Speaker 13: These are people who get up at the cracker before
Speaker 13: the cracker door, go out for weeks at a time
Speaker 13: on their boats bringing in fish for the rest of us.
Speaker 13: And if you wonder why fish is coming so much
Speaker 13: more expensive. Friday night fish and chips is becoming more
Speaker 13: expensive because of policies like this, and we no longer
Speaker 13: can catch fish in a massive ocean territory we have,
Speaker 13: and that of course pushes the price up for everybody.
Speaker 3: Now I'm inside of the last minute here, Matt.
Speaker 1: We have gone back and forth about the Bruce Highway.
Speaker 2: We followed the campaign to get it fixed. Supposedly they
Speaker 2: were getting some sort of the right answer. But every
Speaker 2: time I see something in the Corey of mail it
Speaker 2: suggests that the goat track ain't being fixed anytime soon.
Speaker 2: There was that chemical explosion a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 13: Look, the basic thing we need is to return the maintenance.
Speaker 13: I mean, I'd love to see the road divided four
Speaker 13: lanes whatever. That cost a lot of money. But what's
Speaker 13: happened the last few years is the maintenance of the
Speaker 13: road is just shocking, absolutely shocking. You're a massive potholes
Speaker 13: through it. I don't exactly know what's going on, but
Speaker 13: that's what governments need to fix right now. They can
Speaker 13: fix that, presumably very quickly, get the road teams out
Speaker 13: there and make the road safe.
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Thank you very much, we're following our director's
Speaker 2: orders on tightness very well, lads, I do appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sam, Thank you Senator. Will talk you all
Speaker 2: again tomorrow night here on Paul Murray Lot