WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 2 September

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, Shrry and this made the day. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much, lots to get to tonight. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>to everyone who came and sawus in Western Australia, from

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<v Speaker 2>Portlandland to Perth, from sub all the way back here

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<v Speaker 2>to the Man Cave.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>Past few days. Great to couple the kids with a

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<v Speaker 2>delayed Father's Day, but it's so good to be back

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<v Speaker 2>here where you join us eachin every night. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>of course I'm going to give it both battles for

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Chalmers today.

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<v Speaker 1>What a surprise. It's everyone else's fault. Don't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the dog track that is the Bruce Highway. This thing's

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<v Speaker 1>a killer.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got to fix it up, but for some reason

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<v Speaker 3>they won't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim Watts, the bloke woo Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>Would like to be her vice president, is about to

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<v Speaker 2>have a very very bad week. But first, the wind

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<v Speaker 2>is so strong in some parts of the country in

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<v Speaker 2>the old parlance and to blower dog off a chain.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been well massive wind gusts all the way from

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<v Speaker 2>Tazzy through two parts of New South Wales and beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's focus in on what's been happening in New South

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<v Speaker 2>Wales because we worked with the news this morning lady

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<v Speaker 2>had died. Police confirmed today that the lady had been

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<v Speaker 2>crushed by a tree.

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<v Speaker 3>She was in a holiday cabin near Aubrey.

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<v Speaker 2>On the of course yess Well's Victoria Border Police have

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<v Speaker 2>said that the woman died as the tree fell onto

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<v Speaker 2>her cabin at about three point fifty this morning, so

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<v Speaker 2>presumably she was asleep. Emergency services were called.

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<v Speaker 1>To the area.

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<v Speaker 3>This is near the News of Oz Victorian Border.

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<v Speaker 2>It followed reports that a tree had fallen on the

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<v Speaker 2>cabin offices attached to the local Murray District River Police.

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<v Speaker 2>They attended. They found the body of a woman. She

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<v Speaker 2>was sixty three in the wreckage. We will know more

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<v Speaker 2>about whom she is once her family is informed and

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<v Speaker 2>i'll update you again tomorrow. Meantime, the winds have course

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<v Speaker 2>all the trouble in the world for anyone trying to

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<v Speaker 2>catch a flight home. Thankfully mine was the Red Eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the winds have been crazy. They've mucked around with

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<v Speaker 2>everything from the trains and train lines and power lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of problems in and around Sydney. In Victoria, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been an absolute bugger of a day as well. Lots

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<v Speaker 2>of people were actually told to stay home today because

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<v Speaker 2>of how bad the wind would have ended up. And

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<v Speaker 2>here's the sees about the latest from Victoria and Tazzy,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking of you too.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's been one hell of a day for

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<v Speaker 1>you as well.

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<v Speaker 4>When in doubt, don't go out. It is likely that

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<v Speaker 4>the destructive, destructive and damaging winds are going to result

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<v Speaker 4>in a lot more trees down, more houses without power,

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<v Speaker 4>building damage, road closures and possibly network possibly impacts on

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<v Speaker 4>the transport networks.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather as always my forever thanks to the volunteers who

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<v Speaker 2>are out and about in this stuff. The professionals as well,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for what you do going towards trouble on

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<v Speaker 2>a day when others are trying to hide quite rightly.

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<v Speaker 2>So so I'll make Jim Charms, the Treasurer of Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>the man who considers himself next in line to Anthony Obernezi.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course ourb will rule forever, so he'll be

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<v Speaker 1>forever in a day before he becomes Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we often show this little image of him because

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<v Speaker 2>grim Jim is always there to say, well everything's getting better,

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<v Speaker 2>things are actually getting worse. And remember what he said

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<v Speaker 2>when he was the Shadow Treasurer, what he said when

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<v Speaker 2>interest rates went up during the federal election campaign in

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<v Speaker 2>May of twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a full blome cost of living crisis on

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<v Speaker 5>Scott Morrison's watch. When things are going well in the economy,

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<v Speaker 5>he takes all of the credit, and when times are

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<v Speaker 5>tough in the economy, he takes none of the responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we all know that he was essentially talking about himself.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one rate rise. As you know, the Reserve

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<v Speaker 2>Bank has made its decision a total of thirteen times,

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<v Speaker 2>including that one twelve on the watch of Grim Jim

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<v Speaker 2>is the Treasurer and albo is the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Up up, up, up, up up up.

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<v Speaker 2>We're showing you this in a thousand different ways. We're

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<v Speaker 2>told you that now the average Australian is having to

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<v Speaker 2>find tens of thousands of dollars to pay off their

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<v Speaker 2>house or investment property that they didn't have to before

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<v Speaker 2>this mob came to power. But as you'll have heard today,

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<v Speaker 2>the reality is that the Reserve Bank is not most

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<v Speaker 2>likely to be cutting interest rates anytime soon. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the expectation is that they won't be being cut at

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<v Speaker 2>all this year. That means no early federal election. There

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<v Speaker 2>is of course speculation that they are as close to

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<v Speaker 2>going up as they are to being held, which is

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<v Speaker 2>basically a kindergoing up, because remember, it is a dozen

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<v Speaker 2>times worse for anyone trying to pay off a property.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone at any level in any part of the country

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<v Speaker 2>knows how painful this is. Well, of course, the opinion

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<v Speaker 2>polls have turned against the government.

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<v Speaker 1>You pick in indicies. They are going backwards.

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<v Speaker 2>The Coalition is now in front on the primary vote

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<v Speaker 2>in many and multiple polls around the country. Their margin,

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<v Speaker 2>if the Teals didn't exist, would basically be enough to

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<v Speaker 2>tip out a first term government. But back to the

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<v Speaker 2>politics that seem to work when the joint was on

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<v Speaker 2>fire in twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty three, which

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<v Speaker 2>is to play the man the ball and in this

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<v Speaker 2>case not even the board. Remember when the Labor government

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<v Speaker 2>successfully disgracefully but successfully, was able to convince seemingly the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of the Australians, if not most of the media,

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<v Speaker 2>that the actual reason and the only reason that interest

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<v Speaker 2>rates were going up was because of the mustache twirling

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<v Speaker 2>former Governor of the Reserve Bank, Philip Lowe. Remember all

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<v Speaker 2>of the garbage and nonsense around him that oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>was this millionaire who was out of touch and he

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<v Speaker 2>was just having fun shoving up the rates. Well, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the reality is that even after they changed the governor,

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<v Speaker 2>the rates kept going up, and even after they planned

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<v Speaker 2>to completely remake the Reserve Bank board, including to shove

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<v Speaker 2>union members on it, rates will not be coming down

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<v Speaker 2>for the rest of the year. Well, now it's time

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<v Speaker 2>to start bashing the Reserve Bank again, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that when it was one interest rate rise it was

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<v Speaker 2>all Scott Morrison's faulton. It was all personal and there

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<v Speaker 2>was nothing cyclical and nobody else was making the deceaseis

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<v Speaker 2>when there have been a further twelve interest rate rises.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now time to go back to the Philip low playbook.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's make Australians think that it is the out of touch,

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<v Speaker 2>nasty people at the Reserve Bank, not the federal government

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<v Speaker 2>that has failed to be able to bring inflation back

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<v Speaker 2>to where everyone agreed it should.

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<v Speaker 3>Be, which is between two and three percent.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen it before, but i'll play it again for

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<v Speaker 2>those that have just whacked on the Telly Jim charmers,

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<v Speaker 2>shifting the blame.

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<v Speaker 6>The combination of global economic uncertainty and higher interest rates

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<v Speaker 6>is smashing household budgets and slowing our economy considerably.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's made other critical comments about the Preserve Bank.

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<v Speaker 2>He is trying to push through in the Parliament a

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<v Speaker 2>new way of constituting the bank that, as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>would have on it, not the experienced people that have

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<v Speaker 2>been managing the Australian economy through good times and bad

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<v Speaker 2>for a long period of time. Oh no, no, no, this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be the mates, the mates that will

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<v Speaker 2>do what he politically wants, like he's done so with

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<v Speaker 2>almost every other organ that advises the government on economic policy.

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<v Speaker 2>But just in case you think that this has always

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<v Speaker 2>been his long held view that the Preserve Bank was

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<v Speaker 2>in a different place compared to the government. And when

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<v Speaker 2>a reserve bank is in a different place than the government,

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<v Speaker 2>we are in a serious financial issue here. You want

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<v Speaker 2>the co pilots of the Australian economy to be headed

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<v Speaker 2>in the right direction, and that is the same direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what he said when he was pretending that they

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<v Speaker 2>were one and the same.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a welcome decision from the Reserve Bank because

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<v Speaker 6>it recognizes the pressures that people are under. What I've

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<v Speaker 6>tried to do as Treasurer indeed before that as well,

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<v Speaker 6>is not the preempt or second guess decisions taken by

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<v Speaker 6>the Reserve Bank. Or the Reserve Bank takes these decisions independently,

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<v Speaker 6>and as you know, I do my best not to

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<v Speaker 6>second guess them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my mate and occasional sparring partner over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>Peter van Onslin, he's now the head of the political

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<v Speaker 2>coverage of the Daily mailsolutely lines up and quite correctly

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Charmers today for this garbage of trying to presen

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<v Speaker 2>that he knows more than anyone else about how the

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<v Speaker 2>economy should be working. He starts his article by saying

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<v Speaker 2>the late American Political Center, as p. J. O' rourke,

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<v Speaker 2>once said, that blaming central banks for high interest rates

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<v Speaker 2>is like blaming your bathroom scales when you're put on weight.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what Treasurer Charmers did when you accuse the

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<v Speaker 2>Reserve Bank of smashing the economy with its interest rates strategy. Now, also,

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<v Speaker 2>you may well notice that there is a play which

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<v Speaker 2>is always underway, which is that Jim Charmers is referred

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<v Speaker 2>to as doctor Jim Charmers because the term doctor means

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<v Speaker 2>he's certainly more informed than anyone else and he must

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<v Speaker 2>be a doctor in economics, because that's why he's the treasurer.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, you see, in the same way that doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Miles is a doctor of the way the unions work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet he was presented during the pandemic as a doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>as if he was a medical professional. While Queenslanders will

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<v Speaker 2>being kept safe because Queensland hospitals for the queens and people.

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<v Speaker 1>The same applies to this bloke.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally somebody is calling it out in nice, clear

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<v Speaker 2>terms again world done, PVA. He says that all of

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<v Speaker 2>this is undentifying, it is ignorant, it's out of line.

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<v Speaker 1>Readers can decide.

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<v Speaker 2>For themselves on who they trust more when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to managing the monetary and fiscal policy settings of the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>A treasurer unqualified in economics, whose PhD ie, why do

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<v Speaker 2>we call him a doctor? Is in politics because he

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<v Speaker 2>looked at Paul Keating's political communication, not economics. Or Bullock,

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<v Speaker 2>who was a postgraduate studying economics from the London School

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<v Speaker 2>of Economics no less, and has examined the ins and

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<v Speaker 2>outs of interest rate policy design. Remember, of course she's

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<v Speaker 2>not a newbie. She's been in and around the Reserve

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<v Speaker 2>Bank for a long time. Oh, if the assumption is

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<v Speaker 2>let's just get rid of the old wood because it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't give us what we want, and let's get a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of people that will give us politically what we want.

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<v Speaker 2>We you don't have an independent central bank anymore. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>this bloke decided to go off like a two bob

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<v Speaker 2>watch when interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Rates went up once.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the former Prime Minister will only accept the good

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<v Speaker 2>and shift the blame for the bad. Well, that is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what this bloke does. And he's been in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of an economy for the past couple of years that

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<v Speaker 2>has only got worse. Now, of course they will say

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<v Speaker 2>it's all global, it's all cyclical.

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<v Speaker 1>Australia is no different than anywhere else. And that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was true before the last selection.

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<v Speaker 2>But you mate, made the promise that life would get

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<v Speaker 2>better if people voted for the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead it has got worse.

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<v Speaker 2>You are the people who promised the cost of living

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<v Speaker 2>would be dealt with.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it has got worse. You other people who.

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<v Speaker 2>Said that one interest rate rise was a sign of

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<v Speaker 2>a cost of living crisis, Well what happens when you

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<v Speaker 2>add twelve to that. Now you've been able to hoodwink

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<v Speaker 2>the press gallery into pretending that the thirteenth will be

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<v Speaker 2>the problem. Well, I can tell you on behalf of

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<v Speaker 2>anyone else who's trying to pay a bloody house off.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just as much pain at thirteen as there was twelve, eleven, ten, nine, eight, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>six and five. People have had to find money that

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<v Speaker 2>they would otherwise have been able to spend on everything

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<v Speaker 2>from private health to being able to pay for their kids' sport. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I talk about it every night. I know

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<v Speaker 2>for some people that's a little boring, but the reality

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<v Speaker 2>is we have to talk about it every night.

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<v Speaker 3>Because this is the only thing that matters.

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<v Speaker 2>They can distract you with a whole bunch of garbage,

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<v Speaker 2>including the personal life of the Prime Minister. They can

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<v Speaker 2>pretend it's everyone else's fault. Well guess what. Let's compare

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<v Speaker 2>not just Australia with Australia, but Australia with the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the world. Because if the rest of the world

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<v Speaker 2>has gone through all the same problem. Could somebody please

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<v Speaker 2>tell me why Australia's inflation rate is higher than the

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<v Speaker 2>countries that we consider ourselves to be rather similar to

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<v Speaker 2>the countries where inflation is a number one issue driving

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<v Speaker 2>people to change governments. In the United States two point nine,

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<v Speaker 2>were three point eight, the United Kingdom change to government

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<v Speaker 2>two point two, in Canada two and a half. They're

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<v Speaker 2>about to change the government. And in Japan, while they

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<v Speaker 2>change the government every five minutes. Australia is almost double

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<v Speaker 2>some of these other countries, particularly places.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the United Kingdom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet this blog is using all of the studies of

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<v Speaker 2>political communication with all of the other people around to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that up is down and convince you that

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<v Speaker 2>black is white. The joint is in more trouble than

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<v Speaker 2>it was when they took over. It is so because

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<v Speaker 2>of their fault. Yes, international headwinds have pushed the world

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<v Speaker 2>in a certain direction. But if everyone else has come

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<v Speaker 2>back and we haven't, and the chances of a thirteenth

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<v Speaker 2>interest rate rise is more likely than an interest rate

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<v Speaker 2>drop before next year, then we're in a world of trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can spin as hard as you want, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can sack the PM's media people and all the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't buy it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why the Poles are as relentless as they are,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's why we are as laser focused because where

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<v Speaker 2>money is coming from. How much you've got now, worried

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<v Speaker 2>you are about how much you'll have in a month

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<v Speaker 2>is what minions of Australians feel each and every night.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they come to us. That's why we give

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<v Speaker 2>them the data each and every night. And I'm ever

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<v Speaker 2>so thankful that you are here for this relentless fight. Meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>new Pole, same result, Prime Minister, World of trouble, World

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<v Speaker 2>of trouble. He is now the focal point of a

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<v Speaker 2>government that is going backwards, and he is going backwards

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<v Speaker 2>faster than the government. Now we got the personal us yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I'm not distracted by my I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't care last week, I don't care. This week

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<v Speaker 2>newspoll comes out. It shows that the Coalition and Labor

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<v Speaker 2>fifty to fifty. And this is the bloke who said

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<v Speaker 2>I've never lost in the newspoll when they're drawn, you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't won one. And it's been multiple polls over the

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<v Speaker 2>past couple of years that have put it at damn

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<v Speaker 2>fifty to fifty. But you think you're find because those

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<v Speaker 2>teals they'll save you. Those teals will save you. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter how far you're going to a minority. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>see he'll be the bloke at there at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>puffed out chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I beat on the critics.

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<v Speaker 2>Well mate, if you lose more seats than you got

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<v Speaker 2>at the last election at the next election, you're going backwards,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going backwards because the Australians have had enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Well again, let's have a look here at all of

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<v Speaker 2>the major polls and their versions of do you approve

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<v Speaker 2>or disapprove of the Prime Minister? All of them have

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<v Speaker 2>more than half the country saying this blokes are dud.

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<v Speaker 2>This bloke is not doing the job we asked him to.

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<v Speaker 2>This bloke is not up to the cut. A lovely

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<v Speaker 2>bloke he may be, and all the rest of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but he ain't.

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<v Speaker 1>Up to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is why he is weak, It is why it

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<v Speaker 2>is rattled. It is why he is constantly looking over

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<v Speaker 2>his shoulder. No one from the Labor Party will knock

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<v Speaker 2>him off because that's the way their system works. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian people might think about doing it, if not

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<v Speaker 2>at this election, most likely at some other point into

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<v Speaker 2>the future. But let's be honest, this bloke is behind

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<v Speaker 2>the eight ball. He's behind the eight ball because of

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<v Speaker 2>his own performance. Now he can't blame the media. The

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<v Speaker 2>media always in his pocket. The media let him get

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<v Speaker 2>away with blue murder. The media never question him for

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<v Speaker 2>more than a day in a row on something he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't like. The media puts up with garbage that when

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<v Speaker 2>he flies overseas multiple times as airbus elbow, flying around

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<v Speaker 2>in a plane that he nicknames after his freaking dog, Toto.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh don't we all love Toto.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously?

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<v Speaker 2>And they all go along with the idea that when

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<v Speaker 2>he's overseas he can't possibly answer any questions about what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening here in Australia. No, no, no, that wouldn't be allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have a look at this one. Australians who think

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<v Speaker 2>the country has had it in the right direction again,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone who does this pole shows that we're heading in

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<v Speaker 2>a very bad direction. Fifty two percent in the pole

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<v Speaker 2>that turns up in the Guardian. Now the Guardian, of

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<v Speaker 2>course they love this bloke. They love this bloke because

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<v Speaker 2>they know what he's been in the past, what he

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<v Speaker 2>is in his heart, and even if the Green numbers

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<v Speaker 2>go up, he'll still be the Prime Minister, will give

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<v Speaker 2>them what they want. Remember, his political advisors come from

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<v Speaker 2>the Guardian, the Resolve Pole in the Channel nine papers,

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<v Speaker 2>six percent, six out of ten people in any one

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<v Speaker 2>room believe the joints headed in the wrong direction. Now

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<v Speaker 2>his personal numbers keep going backwards because his personal brand

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<v Speaker 2>of politics doesn't work anymore. He has not been able

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<v Speaker 2>to make the transition from opposition to government because no

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<v Speaker 2>one believes he's actually in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we know he is in charge.

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<v Speaker 2>The decisions they are making are making things worse, but

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<v Speaker 2>they spend billions of dollars on political slogans to make

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<v Speaker 2>it seem like they're helping everyone's power bills. It's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five dollars a month every tax payer. It's fourteen dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a week for the people who need it most. Now

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<v Speaker 2>at this stage, while people say that they are not

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<v Speaker 2>impressed with the Prime Minister, they are not flocking at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment to the opposition. Tonight, we'll talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>phenomena of where they go in between, about whether people

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<v Speaker 2>go further or left further to right, or they just

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<v Speaker 2>find a way to cash out of domestic politics. A

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<v Speaker 2>great conversation coming up in a moment or two. Time

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<v Speaker 2>we follow the data. We have opinions, plenty of them,

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<v Speaker 2>they get as loud as we can be, but that

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<v Speaker 2>we always start from the same place, reality based off facts, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Brings me here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how much passion I have about where our

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<v Speaker 2>country's going when it comes to our kids. For obvious reasons,

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<v Speaker 2>My little girls are all I care about in the world. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>my beautiful wife, you get my point, But the kids

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<v Speaker 2>a one priority. Why Because they're my future, they're our

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<v Speaker 2>famili's future. And your kids and your grandkids are exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the same. What we see yet again today, more evidence

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<v Speaker 2>about how the kids aren't all right.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>This extends to everything from their education to their mental health,

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<v Speaker 2>but nearly half of all high school students feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they don't belong. Since twenty sixteen, the Department of Education

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<v Speaker 2>in New South Wales has been asking a whole series

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<v Speaker 2>of questions about belonging in our schools. The blue line

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<v Speaker 2>is primary schools, the red line is secondary schools. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>have a look here. Eighty percent of kids in primary

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<v Speaker 2>school in twenty sixteen felt a sense of belonging about

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<v Speaker 2>sixty high sixties for primary school. Now primary's gone from

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<v Speaker 2>eighty to sixty eight in the mid.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixties, in high school down to the mid fifties.

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<v Speaker 2>To break this down even more for you, let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a look at primary schools. You can see that the

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<v Speaker 2>blue dot is how they felt in twenty nineteen were

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<v Speaker 2>girls seventy five percent of them felt a sense of belonging.

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<v Speaker 2>The darker dot is twenty twenty one, and the red

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<v Speaker 2>dot is twenty thirteen. Basically a ten point swing for girls,

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<v Speaker 2>basically a ten point swing for boys. Look at that

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<v Speaker 2>socioeconomic number. People in a low socioeconomic situation have gone

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<v Speaker 2>from a sense of belonging at seventy percent down to

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<v Speaker 2>sixty percent, ten points down in higher socioeconomic For Indigenous people,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gone from the mid sixties to now, sorry, the

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<v Speaker 2>mid seventies. Again down to the mid sixties, and again

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<v Speaker 2>another ten points for non Aboriginal kids. So every age group,

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<v Speaker 2>every bracket, everywhere, over what sixteen years, our kids are

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<v Speaker 2>going backward about a sense of belonging. It's secondary schools

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<v Speaker 2>again ten points down for girls, slightly less about five

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<v Speaker 2>points for boys, for lower socioeconomic again, about ten points

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<v Speaker 2>for higher socioeconomic again, about seven points for Aboriginal kids.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now well below forty five percent for non Aboriginal

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<v Speaker 2>kids from sixty five to about sixty percent. What does

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<v Speaker 2>all of this mean? What does sense of belonging mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Again, the easy conversation here is it's all about how

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<v Speaker 2>they feel about the national flag and Australia Day and

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<v Speaker 2>ANZAC data.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's more complicated than that. Let's read though.

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<v Speaker 2>The Nisubas Department of Education released eight years of data

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<v Speaker 2>of a thing called them Tell Them from Me surveys,

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<v Speaker 2>which asks students about their sense of belonging in school,

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<v Speaker 2>including if they felt included and accepted ten point drop

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<v Speaker 2>in virtually every indices primary school, high school over the

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<v Speaker 2>past years from sixteen to twenty three. Education experts say

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<v Speaker 2>disrupted learning during the pandemic. Now, of course that only

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<v Speaker 2>equates not from the numbers from twenty sixteen. We're out

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<v Speaker 2>of the pandemic now, but they ruined a generation of kids.

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<v Speaker 1>These were all the people.

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<v Speaker 2>Who were saying keep out of the schools, schools of

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<v Speaker 2>petri dishes, all of that garbage, all of that crap.

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<v Speaker 2>This generation of school leadership and the schools and the

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<v Speaker 2>public health officials and the Karens from the ABC. No

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<v Speaker 2>offense to Karens, but you get my point. They've ruined

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<v Speaker 2>a generation unruly classrooms that of course is about discipline

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't cost a cent. Instead, you should be re empowering

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<v Speaker 2>the teachers to have control in their classroom. Buying not allowed,

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<v Speaker 2>social media screen years, declining mental health, the sense of

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<v Speaker 2>belonging down ten points from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't possibly blame this federal government because what would

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<v Speaker 2>be the difference between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a different federal government. What would you blame

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<v Speaker 2>at the state level. Well, most of them are the

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<v Speaker 2>same labor governments, with the exception of places like New

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<v Speaker 2>South Wales. Doctor Jennifer buck Buckingham, the new executive of

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<v Speaker 2>the Department's Center for Education Statistics and Evaluation, said there

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<v Speaker 2>was likely a knock on effect motivation and academic achievement

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<v Speaker 2>if students did not feel as though they fit in.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you paying attention? I know you are.

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<v Speaker 2>The education ministers, the prime ministers, the premiers, the chief

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<v Speaker 2>political correspondence, Hello, are you awake? Data is telling us

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<v Speaker 2>that kids feel that sense of belonging has gone backwards

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<v Speaker 2>in ten years. Belonging, remember, is about feeling included and accepted.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't they anyone going to find out chance of

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<v Speaker 2>a four corner story into that? Or is it always

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<v Speaker 2>more interesting to have a go at your media rivals

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<v Speaker 2>to try to fit up your political opponents. Anyone anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>want to put some work into this, because I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>it an airing. I'll devote as much time as possible

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<v Speaker 2>to it. The kids aren't all right, Talk to them

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<v Speaker 2>as best you can, love them as much as you do,

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<v Speaker 2>help them even more than you currently do, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the future of the country and all of us are

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<v Speaker 2>invested in it heart and soul.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was standing there in the room in Jundala.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night, there was an audible gasp when I told

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<v Speaker 2>the story about how the federal government is spending other

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<v Speaker 2>people's money, how they use your money.

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<v Speaker 1>To pile up against the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>They spend twenty thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars and flying

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<v Speaker 2>a bloke to India to play the digitido for a

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<v Speaker 2>sort of pointless How good is cricket event because of

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<v Speaker 2>course Australia will be playing India this summer. Twenty thousand dollars. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you saw last night' show, you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>about to show you. If you didn't, well we have

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<v Speaker 2>a Sunday show as well. Make sure you always watch those,

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<v Speaker 2>and make sure you watch the ourtowns as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>Teresa Tucker, she runs a thing called Fostering Hope in

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<v Speaker 2>that part of Perth, but it is a national organization

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<v Speaker 2>and she makes the same point that everyone does twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars on this meaningless expenditure versus twenty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for someone like her to be able to help foster

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<v Speaker 2>kids who, as she told us last night, turn up

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<v Speaker 2>on her doorstep with nothing but a plastic bag rather the.

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<v Speaker 8>Tape you just spoke a minute ago about that guyd

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<v Speaker 8>I got twenty thousand for that digit. We do with things, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>that would have gone. It's such a long way for us. Yes,

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<v Speaker 8>look at all those homes that would have been filled

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<v Speaker 8>with stuff for them to take home, natgies and wipes

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<v Speaker 8>and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what we talk about every night. The government

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<v Speaker 2>pats itself on the back because it has a surplus.

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<v Speaker 2>Now with that surplus, they have to pay off some

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<v Speaker 2>of the debt. But they don't really care about the

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<v Speaker 2>debt because if they really cared about the debt, they

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<v Speaker 2>would change the structural deficit, which means we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>spend more than we earn for the next forty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that's the Intergeneration Report. So currently, when you've got

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<v Speaker 2>more than you know how to spend, feel free to

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<v Speaker 2>spend it. Not on did you redo players in India,

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<v Speaker 2>but on people like her and the hundreds and eight

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of organizations known and unknown who are helping fill

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<v Speaker 2>the gaps.

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<v Speaker 1>Today. On the health front, there are some potentially very

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<v Speaker 1>good news for people who have been exposed to prostate cancer. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Fascinatingly, they followed in on a bloke who it was

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<v Speaker 2>in his seventies, was a little bit worried about his health,

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<v Speaker 2>did the tests, cancer was everywhere. He then went through

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<v Speaker 2>a new treatment and apparently the cancer backed as out

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<v Speaker 2>the back door.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a look.

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<v Speaker 9>Rob was one of one hundred and sixty two men

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<v Speaker 9>to take part in the trial, led by Professor Louise

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<v Speaker 9>Emmett and funded by November and the federal government. About

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<v Speaker 9>half we're given a hormone ends alutamide, while the other

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<v Speaker 9>half were given ends alutamide as well as radiation treatment

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<v Speaker 9>lutetium PSMA six one seven. Professor Emmett found patients on

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<v Speaker 9>the combination therapy doubled their response to treatment with fewer

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<v Speaker 9>side effects.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you know that while the brand is no longer here,

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<v Speaker 2>I bleed read I love Holden.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Brocky.

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<v Speaker 2>He is on that Mount Rushmore, one of the great

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<v Speaker 2>kings of Australia. You know how much I love motorsport

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and anything that he touched or had any influence in.

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 2>My dear friend Peter Chapman and the lovely good people

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 2>at HDT they keep.

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<v Speaker 1>Much of this memory alive. And I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's the Bitter, but somebody has

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<v Speaker 2>bought one of the race cars that Peter Brook was

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<v Speaker 2>banging around in. In fact, in nineteen ninety one. According

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<v Speaker 2>to Lloyd's this thing has gone for two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five thousand dollars. If only I had one power ball,

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<v Speaker 2>this would be me on a Saturday afternoon. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the King in the ninety one Bathist.

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<v Speaker 1>He's really on fire at the Mountain this year.

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<v Speaker 10>Johnson just ahead Peter Brock a master of this and

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<v Speaker 10>as Legs a master corner.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't require too much.

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<v Speaker 1>In the way of commentary.

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<v Speaker 10>Just listened to that awsome va.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's sweet Bergan music. I love it anyway, well

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<v Speaker 2>done whoever bought it? If it is you, can he

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<v Speaker 2>get in touch? Take me for a spin now. Tim Waaltz,

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<v Speaker 2>he is the Minnesota governor. He is the bloke who

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<v Speaker 2>pretends to be all folksy but really is about as

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<v Speaker 2>hardcore left as anyone from New York or from California.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been picked by Kamala Harris to be her

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<v Speaker 2>vice president should she win the next election.

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<v Speaker 1>He's having a bad week. Let me tell you how

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<v Speaker 1>it started.

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<v Speaker 2>His brother has posted online and now people starting to

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<v Speaker 2>notice that his brother can't stand him. He says there's

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<v Speaker 2>many stories he could tell and he's one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to everything that this blokes about. When he does

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<v Speaker 2>an innyview, that'll be fun to watch the media ignore it. Meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>today he was at a local state fair in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was more than happy to take the easy questions.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't get twelve days which I normally get a

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<v Speaker 11>balance lag in the state of Minnesota and running for press.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they've got a good team on the car, being

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<v Speaker 1>able to manage my skip. Now he can hear the reporters.

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<v Speaker 1>But look what happens when he.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets a questioned he doesn't want to answer. That's way

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<v Speaker 2>more important than how awesome is this state?

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<v Speaker 1>Fair?

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<v Speaker 7>Than you?

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<v Speaker 1>Why I should send his step.

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<v Speaker 10>Half something down the end?

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<v Speaker 12>Double line?

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>They honestly, they think you're not watching right. Spread this

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<v Speaker 2>video as wide and as far as you possibly can.

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<v Speaker 2>But why is this we going to get? Particularly bad?

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Because our dear friend Meghan Carey is sitting down with

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people who served with him in the

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota National Guard. Now, long story short, he was in

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 2>that service for some twenty something years, but he pulled

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<v Speaker 2>the pin before they were sent to a rack.

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Now he knew they.

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<v Speaker 2>Were being sent to a ruk, but he got out

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<v Speaker 2>before they had to go to a ruck because he,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, was running for Congress. Why will it be

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<v Speaker 2>a bad week for Tim Waltz because the people who

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<v Speaker 2>served under him are giving an interview. It goes to

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<v Speaker 2>where between now and the next time we see you

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<v Speaker 2>on Meghan Kelly's show tonight Australian Time.

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<v Speaker 7>Why did you come forward?

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<v Speaker 13>It is morally in the past, he didn't care that

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<v Speaker 13>it was all about him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a military and.

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<v Speaker 14>Person who I don't understand how he could do it

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<v Speaker 14>morally or where you got to absolute.

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<v Speaker 2>Nor attacking you When the people who served with you

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<v Speaker 2>turn on you because you cut and run, there's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a problem no matter how hard the media

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<v Speaker 2>wants to ignore it.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about it and obviously talked to Meghan later

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<v Speaker 2>in the week show How they lie about Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Is Trump perfect?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Does he get things wrong while every human does. Does

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>he sometimes say things we don't agree with? Yes, of

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<v Speaker 2>course we're all human. But last week he was at

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<v Speaker 2>Arlington National Cemetery, the main and most sacred sarah mines

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<v Speaker 2>that are done at a cemetery in Washington.

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<v Speaker 5>D C.

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<v Speaker 2>Where the war dead or they are laid to rest.

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<v Speaker 2>And you may well have heard a version of this

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<v Speaker 2>in the past week about how apparently disgraceful this act

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 2>was from Donald Trump. Kamala Harris, who of course didn't

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<v Speaker 2>write this tweet but presumably saw it before it was

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<v Speaker 2>sent out. She says as Vice President, I have had

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<v Speaker 2>the privilege of visiting Arlington National Cemetery several times. It's

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 2>a solemn place. Will we come together to honor American

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<v Speaker 2>heroes who have made the ultimate sacrifice in the service

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<v Speaker 2>of the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not a place for politics.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet, as was reported this week, Donald Trump's team

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<v Speaker 2>chose to film a video that's what you saw, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, which was news coverage, resulting in an altercation

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 2>with cemetery staff. Again, that makes it seem like it's Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't, and even the people who allegedly saw it

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<v Speaker 2>say it was not as has been described in the media.

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<v Speaker 2>But this will be like the both sides, all the

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 2>other crap that they say about him that eventually becomes

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>fact no matter how many times you say it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me be clear, the former president disrespected sacred ground

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<v Speaker 2>all for the sake.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a political stunt. Will bugger you, duh? Let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you why.

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Because the reason he was there was because on the

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>very day that you last person in the room, and

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 2>you mate, Joe Biden, decided to cut and run from Afghanistan,

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 2>where people died literally holding onto the planes that were

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<v Speaker 2>flying out at the time, where you and the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>president of all time, the mount Rushmore, the amazing democracy

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>loving Joe Biden left all of the equipment to be

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<v Speaker 2>sold off by the Taliban and Bagram Air Based to

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<v Speaker 2>now be taken over by the Chinese. Thirteen service people die.

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<v Speaker 2>They died in a suicide bomb as somebody was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to stop people leaving the country. Those thirteen service people

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<v Speaker 2>are barely recognized in the years after what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It's three years ago.

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 2>You may remember when they returned to the United States.

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden while their bodies were being taken from the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the plane, he was looking at his watch.

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<v Speaker 2>How long has this got to go? But of course

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>that's never been a scandal. Nothing to see here. Well,

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 2>these families are furious because they have never got answers

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 2>about what really happened, and the service has not truly

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<v Speaker 2>been recognized by the very administration that would have to

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 2>admit it had fault. Remember Joe Biden, yes, melting before

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<v Speaker 2>our eyes, said nobody had died on his watch. These

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>thirteen people were among those who had These people have

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<v Speaker 2>previously come out as families to criticize Biden and Harris

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>for the way that they got out of Afghanistan well.

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<v Speaker 2>In response to the Kamala Harris cherry, on the top

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<v Speaker 2>of a week of bs about what was really going

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 2>on at Arlington Cemetery, many members of those thirteen families

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 2>decided to release videos explaining why Donald Trump was there.

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<v Speaker 2>The first and all say, of course, because he was invited.

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 2>He was invited by them because he has always talked

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 2>to them. He has never ignored them, He has not

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 2>pushed them to one side. He has not pretended that

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 2>they didn't die or that they don't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the first.

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<v Speaker 14>And Trump was invaded by those families who have their

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:45.479
<v Speaker 14>soldiers buried at Arlington. They were invaded there as a friend,

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<v Speaker 14>as somebody who has taken the time numerous times, on

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 14>numerous occasions to hear our stories, to speak our kids' names.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicall griefside.

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<v Speaker 14>President Trump and his team were respectful, They listened to

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<v Speaker 14>our stories and didn't talk much at all.

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<v Speaker 10>We welcomed them that day and.

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<v Speaker 2>They were again respectful invited. The families have made it

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>very clear he was at the cemetery because their family

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 2>members died three years ago because of the decisions of

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Biden and Harris. He was invited because he cared, and

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Harris and Biden didn't. Biden checked his freaking watch when

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>they were coming off the planes. Again, if you see

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<v Speaker 2>or hear, or read or have anyone repeat this crap.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lie.

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<v Speaker 3>He was there because the families wanted him there.

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<v Speaker 12>Why did we want Trump there? There wasn't to help

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<v Speaker 12>his political campaign. We wanted a leader that explains why

0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 12>you and Joe didn't get a call. Imagine for a

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 12>second that your kid is killed and there's a president

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 12>in the United States willing to take you under his

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 12>wing and listen to you. That's what we found in

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 12>President Trump. Certainly not you, and certainly not Joe Biden.

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 2>In the country that I know cares so much about service,

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 2>it matters that if the families of thirteen people who

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<v Speaker 2>died because of the decisions that you made are turning

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<v Speaker 2>to one candidate, that is.

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<v Speaker 1>For a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>If the people who served with the vice presidential candidate

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 2>of Kamala Harris are now coming out and saying that

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 2>he cut and run. They went to Iraq. Waltz didn't

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 2>He ran for Congress, He became governor. And it looks

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>like the slippery slope may end all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>In the White House. More on a secure on Pomorary life.

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<v Speaker 2>Plenty to talk about, Plenty to debate, Mattcanavan, Sam Crosby,

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Lots to get to include how the big wins have

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 2>affected big renewables today. Surprise, surprise, the system doesn't work

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<v Speaker 2>the way they tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>More in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>So much to talk about with lovely Sam Crosby, who

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<v Speaker 2>is here in the man cave telling me to pop.

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<v Speaker 1>Up and not be so angry.

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm passionate, so angry, I'm so angry, passion of mine

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<v Speaker 2>I could see take and smiles of the joys of

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<v Speaker 2>the Paralympics and footy and fun and.

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<v Speaker 1>For me anyway, blad to Happy Father's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy, had a great day, same as you, Matt Canavan,

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 2>of course, Senator Matt Canavan, Happy Father's Day to you, mate,

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Hope it was a good one in FMQ.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk.

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<v Speaker 2>About this wild weather and its effect on renewable energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we've seen scenarios where the wind was so aggressive

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<v Speaker 2>that at certain points the system was being turned off.

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<v Speaker 2>Have I got that right, Matt, Because that obviously wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>happen if we're talking about nuclear, and obviously wouldn't happen

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 2>if we're talking about cole and obviously wouldn't happen if

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about gas. But this is what they want,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty three percent of the grid.

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<v Speaker 1>Dab.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, there is a real lesson in what happened yesterday,

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<v Speaker 13>because your rights are. Lots of solar farms were switched

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<v Speaker 13>off yesterday across the country, apparently up to eighty percent

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 13>of them at one stage, switched off at once. The

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 13>reason they have to switch them off is because they

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 13>need to keep a minimum amount of thermal stabilizing generating

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<v Speaker 13>power in the system. That is effectively coal in our system.

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 13>They need something that is big and can move and

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<v Speaker 13>spin and keep the frequency of the system at a

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<v Speaker 13>stable rate.

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<v Speaker 7>So look, this gets very complicated.

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<v Speaker 13>Of course, But the problems emerge when politicians who don't

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 13>understand these complexities like to say things like let's go

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 13>to eighty two percent renewables. The problem is, how are

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 13>you going to keep that system stable? The wind farms

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<v Speaker 13>spin at different rates, not at fifty hertz the frequency

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 13>that our electrical equipment uses. Solar is a direct current technology.

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 13>It doesn't help balance the alternating current system that is

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<v Speaker 13>our grid. So I'm getting really technical here, Paul, But

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 13>that's the problem. We need that reliable base load in

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 13>the system. And the very fact that you can't switch

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<v Speaker 13>off too much of it shows how Labour's fantasy of

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<v Speaker 13>going to eighty two percent would asolutely destroy our grid.

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 13>And there were a lot more damage than we're already

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<v Speaker 13>experiencing right now in our power bills.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the detail because it helps educate the audience.

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 2>It helps educate me, Sam, educate us while we're wrong.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh look, no renewable, no power sources is perfect. You know,

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 11>we saw two weeks ago there were earthquakes at the

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<v Speaker 11>site of one of Peter Dutton's proposed nuclear sites. I

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 11>can't imagine that would be particularly good if that happens

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<v Speaker 11>when there's a nuclear power station on.

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<v Speaker 7>Has that ever been a problem?

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<v Speaker 2>That earthquake was at best a couple of things fell

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<v Speaker 2>off the shelf, right that the idea that should and

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 2>when you put a nuclear reactor over that, maybe the

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>consequence is going to be slightly worth.

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<v Speaker 1>On an issue.

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 7>They're built to withstand those anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, but no nuclear power no, but how

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<v Speaker 2>station is By picking wind as an examples, such a

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<v Speaker 2>lot has to come from.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't the variables more risky?

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Potentially you can model this out.

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<v Speaker 11>This is not like we're Robinson Crusoe here, right, This

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<v Speaker 11>is not like no one else in the world production

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 11>where it's not all those before Russia invaded Ukraine it

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 11>was yes, it was yes, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Policy days after it had had come on.

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<v Speaker 11>It doesn't matter how the UK it doesn't matter how

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<v Speaker 11>it was No one expected.

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<v Speaker 13>That doesn't matter because cold prices are back down. Cold

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 13>prices are back down. Still behigh, but not overly high levels.

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<v Speaker 13>That's the end of the reason there.

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<v Speaker 11>At the end of the day. At the end of

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 11>the day, there are there are wind turbines all around

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 11>the world using battery technology to firm up the grid.

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 11>There are wind turbines all around the world. Nuclear and

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 11>I've always said that we should back it by gas

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 11>or you're not in the longer term, we should back

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<v Speaker 11>it by batteries absolutely.

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, Let's talk about charmers and the blade.

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 13>They can't provide the services I'm speaking about that I

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 13>just spoke about.

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 7>SAM.

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 13>Batteries can't do that. Again, they're direct current, they're not

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 13>alternating current. Our system is based on a system that

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 13>requires like one thing to demonstrate this is in your

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 13>house right now. Your lights are flicking on and off.

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 13>You don't see it with a human eye, but they're

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 13>flicking on and off because they run on a fifty

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:28.480
<v Speaker 13>hertz sign wave. And if we don't have a hydro

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 13>or coal or gas that can run and spin at

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 13>that frequency and correct others things like wind that don't

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 13>spread spin at that frequency, our whole grid will fail

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 13>and electrical equipment will fail. So what they have to do,

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 13>what they're trying to plan to do, is build massive,

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 13>big spinning wheels, but don't generate power themselves, but need

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 13>power to try and stabilize the system. We're trying to

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 13>do something that has never been done before, and that's

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 13>what we're getting all of these problems, and it's sort

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:56.279
<v Speaker 13>of weird. Why are we rushing into this in such

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 13>a ridiculous, arbitrary and artificial way, all at the cost

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 13>of higher power prices. The modeling that labor did, you

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:04.360
<v Speaker 13>said it should be modeled out. They modeled it, and

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 13>they said they'd reduced powers by two seventy five. You say, Ukraine,

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 13>But coal gas prices are back down at reasonable naval levels.

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<v Speaker 7>Now it's got nothing to do with Ukraine.

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 13>Their modeling was out, They're modeling was hopeless, and their

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 13>plan is hopeless. And the sooner we get away from

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 13>it and get back to the latter common sense, the

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 13>better for the rest of us.

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Sam, what is the four d chess behind charmers having

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 2>a crack at the RBA. I know, with Philip Low

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<v Speaker 2>and the very start of their term, they were able

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>to pretend there was something structurally that was going on

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 2>that was wrong. But when they threw all the when

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 2>they said that the former prime Minister was in a

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 2>world of pain at one interest rate rise, we've now

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<v Speaker 2>seen twelve more chance of a thirteenth.

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Isn't it concerning to.

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<v Speaker 2>You that our inflation is higher than the US, the UK,

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<v Speaker 2>than places like Japan, Canada? I quoted before, This feels

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 2>like getting through the week rather than actually talking about

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 2>the problem.

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<v Speaker 11>I think it is a sign of a very healthy

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 11>democracy when you can credit size the RBA.

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 3>I have absolutely no problems, not the government.

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:06.399
<v Speaker 11>What really, I come on this show and you say,

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 11>no one can criticize the government, really, Paul, But the

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 11>RBA is a human institution, and like all human institutions,

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.959
<v Speaker 11>they are fallible, you know. Philip Low, yes, of course,

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 11>in I think it was March or February made that

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 11>immortal statement that interest rates are going to stay low

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<v Speaker 11>for the foreseeable future.

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:25.879
<v Speaker 1>Clearly he was wrong.

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 11>For the last ten years, every single prediction of wag's

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.800
<v Speaker 11>growth has been wrong. Every single one has been wrong.

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 11>You know, I think it's fair enough that we say, well,

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.479
<v Speaker 11>let's look at the bank and have a conversation about

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 11>so if.

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 1>They're in the wrong place.

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.280
<v Speaker 2>The Greens say that the current legislation gives the Treasure

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 2>of the capacity to overrule the decision of the Reserve

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Bank at any one time. Do you think that he

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 2>should be if they came tomorrow and said we're going

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 2>up thirteen, that he turns around and says.

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I don't think you should do that.

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 11>I think you should put in place better voices around

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 11>the table so that you can have a conversation.

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>On union hacks.

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, no, no, no, no, I was just going to say that,

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 11>absolutely you want to talk about mates, No, no, let's talk

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 11>about wages policy. Wages policy or sorry, wages calculation is

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:13.720
<v Speaker 11>one of the things that they got wrong ten times

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 11>out of ten.

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now.

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 11>When they were saying, oh, we expect wages to go

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 11>up four or five percent this year, every single union

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 11>secretary in the country was saying, in what industry, my

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 11>guys aren't getting four five percent, Their guys aren't getting

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 11>four five percent. Every single union secretory in the country

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:29.399
<v Speaker 11>thought that was madness, except the boffins at the RBA.

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.399
<v Speaker 11>They were saying, no, no, no, we've got this model

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 11>labor market elasticity that's going to show that it's going

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 11>to go up.

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Every single one was wrong.

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 11>I think having a couple of those union secretaries sitting

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 11>round the table saying, guys, none of us are experiencing

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 11>the union land, none of us are experiencing in the

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 11>real world, might say this is why you've got it wrong.

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:45.399
<v Speaker 7>Team.

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that is the result of what he's trying

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 2>to do when it comes to the laws he's trying

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 2>to get through the Parliament. But it's not what he's

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 2>saying at the press conferences.

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Man, what do you think here? Again?

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 2>It worked for them politically, it shouldn't have. It was

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 2>a disgrace to attack the Reserve Bank governor in the

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 2>fashion that they did. Anyone else would have been accused

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 2>of trying to trash an institution, but when it's labor,

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 2>it's all good. What did you think about the game

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 2>they're playing?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, look, I certainly I agree with Sam. I don't

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 13>think the RBA should be somehow above criticism. But I

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 13>don't think it's appropriate for the nation's treasurer to engage

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 13>in this kind of criticism, especially when I can't hit

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:23.399
<v Speaker 13>back and won't of course, can't defend itself from one

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 13>of the other parts of the team, the Treasury. And

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 13>also if the Treasurer is going to engage in this

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 13>kind of reflection, maybe he should engage in some self

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 13>reflection as well, because he seems to be criticizing the

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 13>RBA in some kind of in next way to wash

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 13>his own hands or absolve himself from any blood. He

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 13>is the nation's treasurer, and I've commented often that I

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 13>think Jim Chalmers seems to think he's a weather man,

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.839
<v Speaker 13>not the Treasury. He's always commenting on the economy. What

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.760
<v Speaker 13>it stayed is this time commenting on playing an economic

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 13>commentator role. What the RBA should or shouldn't be doing.

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 13>You're the treasurer, mate, you can actually influence things. You

0:43:56.880 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 13>can influence inflation. You could could create pressure off the

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 13>economy to help interest rates be lower, because I'm not

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 13>sure exactly what the ABA can do. And our inflation

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 13>rate is the highest and the developed well, so obviously,

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.280
<v Speaker 13>if it's interest rate decisions have been lower, like Jim

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 13>seems to want to want them to have done, we.

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.760
<v Speaker 7>May even have had higher inflation. That's a very likely outcome.

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 13>What could be done if you want lower interest rates

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 13>and lower inflation is to reduce government spending. And almost

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 13>every economists out there, every credible economist, reckons that their

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 13>Labor Party's first two budgets have been massively splimmetry.

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 7>That's what their own numbers say.

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 13>They've injected forty billion dollars of net spending based on

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 13>their own policy decisions, into the economy across two budgets,

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 13>and that has meant that.

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 7>Interest rates are higher than they would otherwise.

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Be all right, I love this. The big boys have

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:44.800
<v Speaker 2>come to play. They've got the brains, they got we all.

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 1>Well almost said it. They're ready to fire up and fight.

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 2>That's the main thing, all right, quick breakback with more

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 2>will do so in a second. The dog track that

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 2>is the Bruce Highway and Queens End Labors plan to

0:44:54.760 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>be phishing in Queens Math this Morning's all right, Lad's

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:05.919
<v Speaker 2>got plenty to talk about in the next little while

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 2>here with none other than Sam Crosby and Mtcanavan, and

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to sort of direct a few issues in

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 2>your direction.

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Rather than the argibargie, as much fun as that is.

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.720
<v Speaker 2>The Greens are doubling down on trying to improve their

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 2>primary vote by going after people who rent. Third of

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 2>the country rents. Their primary vote is anywhere between ten

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 2>and fifteen percent. If they can get it up to

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty percent or twenty five in certain areas well. Obviously

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 2>they're going to start to challenge for labor seats. That's

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the reason they talk about rent the way that they do,

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 2>and it will be politically effective.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's not muck around.

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<v Speaker 2>The Greens in my view, are probably going to have

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<v Speaker 2>quite a good result at the next election, one they

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<v Speaker 2>don't deserve. But they are targeting on this issue. And

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest here. So today they say that landlords

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<v Speaker 2>and realistic agents could face major fines. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about this as the latest place.

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<v Speaker 11>It is a happy hunting ground for them. There is

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<v Speaker 11>a huge amount of unhappy renters out there, and you

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<v Speaker 11>know a huge number of people that are desperate to

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<v Speaker 11>move into the housing market that just simply can't afford

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<v Speaker 11>to the problem they've got is there is absolutely no

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<v Speaker 11>capacity for the federal government to do this, absolutely no capacity.

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<v Speaker 11>It is virtue signaling by saying to these people, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>the Greens care is about X, and it's just crap

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<v Speaker 11>because they can't they can't actually do anything about this.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, equally as disturbing Andrew Bragg's Cotton contribution saying

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<v Speaker 11>you know, he's the Housing Shadow Assistant shadow saying, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 11>if state governments don't meet their housing targets, then they

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<v Speaker 11>shouldn't get the GST allocationally, which again, you know, you

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<v Speaker 11>either believe in a federation where state governments have.

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<v Speaker 7>He didn't, he did not say that. That's well, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Even I'm not even engaged with what he was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>He sort of you know what used to be free

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<v Speaker 2>free wheeling out on the internet. Of course free weell's

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<v Speaker 2>on Channel two, which doesn't and shouldn't lock you guys in.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to get to map the Great Barrier reef.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the type of fishing that's about to be

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<v Speaker 2>phased out there.

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<v Speaker 7>What are the cons sequences, Well, it has been.

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<v Speaker 13>It has been phased out, Paul, about a year and

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<v Speaker 13>a half ago.

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<v Speaker 7>The environment, it's almost two years ago now.

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<v Speaker 13>The environments just shocked fishermen across Queensland and said we're

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<v Speaker 13>going to ban gil nets overnight. There was no consultation.

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<v Speaker 13>It's destroyed businesses. One thing I didn't even quite realize myself.

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<v Speaker 13>It was all market about the Great Battery. But last

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<v Speaker 13>week I caught up some fishermen in Mariba, Jamie and

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<v Speaker 13>Bevan and it also affected the golf fisheries as well

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<v Speaker 13>on the other side of Queensland. And they'd spent thousands

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<v Speaker 13>of dollars building a processing center in Mariba and ten

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<v Speaker 13>your plips that comes along and makes his decision, as

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<v Speaker 13>I say, overnight in response to pressure from you NESCo

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<v Speaker 13>or u n body, and they've had their business destroyed

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<v Speaker 13>because of that decision.

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<v Speaker 7>No one spoke to them, No one talks to them.

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<v Speaker 13>These are people who get up at the cracker before

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<v Speaker 13>the cracker door, go out for weeks at a time

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<v Speaker 13>on their boats bringing in fish for the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 13>And if you wonder why fish is coming so much

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<v Speaker 13>more expensive. Friday night fish and chips is becoming more

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<v Speaker 13>expensive because of policies like this, and we no longer

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<v Speaker 13>can catch fish in a massive ocean territory we have,

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<v Speaker 13>and that of course pushes the price up for everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm inside of the last minute here, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>We have gone back and forth about the Bruce Highway.

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<v Speaker 2>We followed the campaign to get it fixed. Supposedly they

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<v Speaker 2>were getting some sort of the right answer. But every

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<v Speaker 2>time I see something in the Corey of mail it

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<v Speaker 2>suggests that the goat track ain't being fixed anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 2>There was that chemical explosion a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 13>Look, the basic thing we need is to return the maintenance.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, I'd love to see the road divided four

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<v Speaker 13>lanes whatever. That cost a lot of money. But what's

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<v Speaker 13>happened the last few years is the maintenance of the

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<v Speaker 13>road is just shocking, absolutely shocking. You're a massive potholes

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<v Speaker 13>through it. I don't exactly know what's going on, but

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<v Speaker 13>that's what governments need to fix right now. They can

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<v Speaker 13>fix that, presumably very quickly, get the road teams out

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<v Speaker 13>there and make the road safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Good stuff, Thank you very much, we're following our director's

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<v Speaker 2>orders on tightness very well, lads, I do appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Sam, Thank you Senator. Will talk you all

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<v Speaker 2>again tomorrow night here on Paul Murray Lot