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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed business news you can use today.

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Speaker 1: The pressure grows on Opposition leader Susan Lee after she

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Speaker 1: sacked a Senator who refused to publicly support her. The

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Speaker 1: federal government's investment in Quantum Computing starts to pay off,

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Speaker 1: and global condemnation of the killing of a conservative activist

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Speaker 1: in the United States, plus Quantas's frequent flyer program climbs

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Speaker 1: the rankings and signs of life on Mars. It is Friday,

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Speaker 1: the twelfth of September twenty twenty five. I'm Michael Thompson

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Speaker 1: and good morning, Sean Ailmer.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Michael.

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Speaker 1: The main story this morning, Opposition leader Susan Lee says

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Speaker 1: her leadership of the Liberal Party is quote absolutely not

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Speaker 1: under threat after her decision to act Northern Territory Senator

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Speaker 1: to Sinternum perjin for Price from the front bench. But

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Speaker 1: the chatter continues.

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Speaker 2: It's getting louder. I would say Michael Lee is under

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Speaker 2: pressure from all sides, it seems, over how she handled

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Speaker 2: Senator Price dumped. Backbencher James Hume has been critical of

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Speaker 2: how Lee has handled the situation. Yesterday, frontbencher Andrew Hasty

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Speaker 2: made a mess of his support for Lee, denying and

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Speaker 2: he moves underway to replace her, then confirming he has

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Speaker 2: a desire to lead. Opposition Finance spokesperson James Patterson publicly

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Speaker 2: declared his support for Lee, but the fact that there's

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Speaker 2: a debate and everyone's coming out with who their two

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Speaker 2: cents worth is not good for the Liberal leader. Some

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Speaker 2: frontbenchers have declared their support for Lee, but they then

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Speaker 2: went and say well, they also expect Price to return

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Speaker 2: to the front bench at some point. Yesterday, Lee formally

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Speaker 2: apologized for Senator Price's false claim that the government was

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Speaker 2: bringing Indian migrants to Australia to pad its vote, but

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Speaker 2: most of the time she spent defending her position as

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Speaker 2: Opposition leader, which of course is only a few months old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in Parliament only sat for a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: so far in this term. Like, it is just it

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Speaker 1: is extraordinary that we are already at this point, particularly

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Speaker 1: when there is so much pressure on the opposition, on

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Speaker 1: the Coalition to actually present a united front and an

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Speaker 1: alternative government here and here we are already just being

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Speaker 1: ripped apart by infighting. It's extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: That mean, it's bad for politics, bad for the country.

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Speaker 2: Whether or not you support the coalition or not, because

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Speaker 2: you want a decent, viable opposition party to take the

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Speaker 2: government on and we don't have that at the moment.

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Speaker 1: No now. Meanwhile, Prime Minister Anthony Alberanezi yesterday signed a

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Speaker 1: treaty in Honiara in the Solomon Islands, establishing the Pacific

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Speaker 1: Resilience Facility. But sean the signing the signing, and it

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Speaker 1: almost feels kind of trivial to point this out, but

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Speaker 1: it was some overshadowed by the shirt that the PM

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Speaker 1: was wearing.

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Speaker 2: He wore the wrong colored shirt. So you know, you

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Speaker 2: see these photos of these Pacific Island meetings or the

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Speaker 2: diton trees in the same colored woman. Yesterday they were

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Speaker 2: seated in a blue shirt in the middle of an

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Speaker 2: He exited stage left and came back. He changed the

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Speaker 2: treaty substantive part of this story. The treaty will finance

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Speaker 2: small scale projects that will bolts to the region's resilience

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Speaker 2: to climate change and natural disasters. Australia will contribute one

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. It continues the spending that we've been

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Speaker 2: trying to do over the past week while the PM's

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Speaker 2: been in the region. I did like New Zealand Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister Christopher Luxen's take on Albanese's sartorial faux pas. He

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Speaker 2: was asked about it, he's quite I think he just

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Speaker 2: forgot the instructions. To be honest, You've got to reiterate

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Speaker 2: quite a lot to the Australians what they need to

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Speaker 2: be doing in the rules sometimes end quote savage. Good

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Speaker 1: Oh well play Now the federal government's big bet on

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Speaker 1: PSI Quantum has more than doubled in value. This is

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Speaker 1: pretty extraordinary. The quantum computing startup is now worth ten

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Speaker 1: point six billion dollars after a capital raise that drew

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Speaker 1: in artificial intelligence Giant and Video as an investor.

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Speaker 2: PSI Quantum is attempting to build the world's first quantum computer,

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Speaker 2: which is a new type of computing that could have

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Speaker 2: a billion US dollars in a funding round. Therefore, you

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Speaker 2: have to revalue the company. Its valuation to about seven

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Speaker 2: PSI Quantum said it would be collaborating with a chip

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Speaker 2: giant in a range of areas including applications, algorithms, and

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Speaker 2: hardware integration. The Federal and Queensland government became investors last

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Speaker 2: year after providing nine hundred and forty million dollars in

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Speaker 2: including chief executive Jeremy O'Brien, are Australian. The Great promise

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Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a quantum computing fan. The great

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Speaker 2: faster than traditional computers, but O'Brien said it's true potential

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Speaker 2: is no one's ever been able to build one, So

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Speaker 2: they're a little bit of an issue. But based on

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Speaker 2: the prospect and the valuation of PSIGH Quantum, the Federal

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Speaker 2: government and Queensland governments have done very well out of it.

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Speaker 1: Now, Sean, that's that is an incredible story, right. But

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Speaker 1: if we can just very very briefly jump back to

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Speaker 2: Was trying doing that last story.

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Speaker 1: There was an incident years and years ago. I remember,

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Speaker 1: And as I was searching for it, I was reminded

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Speaker 1: and it was when Kevin Rudd was PM, and this

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Speaker 1: what everybody wore, and so picture Kevin Rudd. Right, So

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Speaker 1: everyone is wearing Kevin Rudd's blue collared business shirt. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: there is a row of at least a dozen Pacific

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Speaker 1: is actually it is quite perfect. It is like they

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Speaker 1: well done Kevin Rudd. Anyway, I apologize for the for

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Speaker 1: the tangent version. Ah good fun. Now, Sean markets, where

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Speaker 1: did we finish up?

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Speaker 2: Yesterday? Banks and healthcare stocks pushed the market lower this

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Speaker 2: Telix Pharmaceuticals and ResMed also dropped. Mining stocks provided some

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Speaker 1: Okay, quick break, Sean, we'll be back in a moment

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Speaker 1: Bank backed by now pay Later group Klana has listed

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Speaker 1: on the New York Stock Exchange and it shares surged

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Speaker 1: more than thirty percent at the open, cementing really the

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Speaker 1: comeback of these buy and our pay later companies.

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Speaker 2: By the close, that Stockholm headquartered payments business ended up

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Speaker 2: year ago the sector was in crisis. As interest rates rose,

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Speaker 2: Commonwealth Bank sold shares into the IPO, but it still

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Speaker 2: holds a state worth one point two billion dollars now.

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Speaker 2: The modern buy now, pay later was invented by Australia's

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Speaker 2: after Pay about a decade ago, when Nick Molner introduced

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Speaker 2: an update of the old lay by. I suppose Klana

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Speaker 2: After Pay, of course, was ultimately sold to US giants Square.

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Speaker 2: Klana really now is the king maker in by now

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Speaker 2: pay later listing on a stocks change. Good news Commonwealth

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Speaker 2: Bank and for other shareholders.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, now Australian energy retailers will be compelled to alert

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Speaker 1: customers in a more transparent way if they can save

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Speaker 1: money on an alternative plan, after the country's industry rule

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Speaker 1: maker approved an amendment proposed by the Federal Energy Minister

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Speaker 2: It's sort of a fair bit in this, so undercurrent rules,

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Speaker 2: retailers have to inform customers if they could save money

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Speaker 2: by switching, but it's done within a bill. The bill

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Speaker 2: that you get now. The Australian Energy Markets Commission reckons

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Speaker 2: that most people don't read their bill in great detail,

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Speaker 2: so it's not very beneficial. Surely not. The new rule

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Speaker 2: will require retailers to make it now explicitly clear, a

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Speaker 2: tweak that comes amid a broad crackdown on companies. Amit

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Speaker 2: a surge in bills? According to the Australian, Critics on

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Speaker 2: the crackdown insist it propagates a myth that retailers are

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Speaker 1: Now coming off profit season, there isn't a huge amount

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Speaker 1: decent moves and share prices over the past thirty six hours.

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Speaker 1: Service Stream surged fifteen percent after winning a one point

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Speaker 1: six billion dollar contract with the Australian Department of Defense

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big contract for service Stream. Nine Entertainment Film more

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Speaker 2: domain in that one. Hence the tumble Boss Energy fell

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Speaker 2: a review of its flagship Honeymoon Mine in South Australia

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Speaker 2: contract with the Australian Department of Defense, and Prenty jumped

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Speaker 2: on news that its subsidiary Barminco had secured a contract

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Speaker 1: Now sean Quantis. It ranks seventeenth among global airlines for

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Speaker 1: its loyalty program, although the carrier has been singled out

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Speaker 2: Yes, so Flying Blue the joint loyalty program of the

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Speaker 2: Air France Kalm Group top the annual survey by point

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Speaker 2: dot me. That's company that did the survey. It's the

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Speaker 2: US based Points and Traveled Reward search engine. So after

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Speaker 2: the Air Frans Kalm Group was Singapore Airlines Chris flier

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Speaker 2: one that many Australians would have in Cafe Pacific's Asia

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Speaker 2: miles Quantus improved its position from twenty fourth in the

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Speaker 2: previous survey, still rated poor for redemption rates and the

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Speaker 2: ability to hold award seats. Virgin Australia didn't make the

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Speaker 2: list because it mostly a domestic network. Now over the

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Speaker 2: past six months, Quantus has increased the number of points

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Speaker 2: required to book Classic Plus seats in premium cabins by

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Speaker 2: that eighteen percent. Costs for its cheaper Classic Award seats

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Speaker 2: have also increased in the last month. Point dot mesid

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Speaker 2: does this relatively small international operation had held it back

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Speaker 2: from a higher rating, while its investment in customer service

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, had lifted its overall standing all right.

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Speaker 1: Turning to international news Now and senior Australian politicians from

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Speaker 1: across the political spectrum have expressed shock and concern over

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Speaker 1: the fatal shooting of prominent US conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: both sent their condolences to Kirk's family and were alarmed

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Speaker 2: Kirk was shot dead at a university event in Utah,

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Speaker 2: political violence quote Trump. For years, those on the radical

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Speaker 1: All right. One last story, Sean, the intensifying hunt for

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Speaker 2: Very exciting. NASA's perseverance rover dugout mudstones flecked with iron

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Speaker 1: It's just like it's not exactly like they turned around

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Speaker 1: it's just okay, we found iron containing compounds.

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Speaker 2: found on Mars. So back in your box place. Mars

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Speaker 1: This is really quite something. As number one fan up

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Speaker 1: next is fearing greed Q and A. You're speaking today

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Speaker 1: something a little bit different. You are speaking with Will Ryan,

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Speaker 2: Yes, a Project Management Planet provides project management training. It's

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Speaker 2: done that. Spoken to Will about his journey, what he's

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Speaker 2: interesting chat with someone. He's a lawyer Will by trade,

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Speaker 1: And what I love most about this chat is he

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Speaker 1: well played, Will, It was just he doesn't make it

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Speaker 1: very interesting. Yeah, he certainly does. It's coming up next

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