1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Da thanks for listening to the show. In two thousand 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: and two, I think it was then. Yeah, John Farnham 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: went on the road. He called the tour the last 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: time the thing is like that was supposed to use 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: farewell Tour. It wasn't. But there's something about the last 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: time anything happens that makes it really quite special. Could 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: be quite sad, or it could be quite choiceful. And 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: sometimes if you think about the last time something will 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: happen between you and someone you really care about, it 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: can be a bit too much to bear to even 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: consider that there will be a last time. But I'm 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: here to tell you doing it deliberately can actually make 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: your time with them way more incredible. I have if 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: you've heard the thoughts on that. But I do need 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: to play some ads to keep the lights on, the 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: fridge fall and the mortgage paid here at the house. 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after the break Kodday, thanks for 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: listening to the show. This is better than yesterday, making 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: it better every episode since twenty thirteen. My name is 20 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Josha Ginsburg. I am a podcaster, i am a TV host. 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm a best selling author. Thank you very much. I 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: am a backyard Possum Apocalypse. Leaf blower guy. I'm a 23 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: black that found a whole bucket full of mossie lava 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: the other day in the backyard because of the rain, 25 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: and I tipped it over and went, that's good. So 26 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: then it feast on me or the kids. And I'm 27 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: grateful you're here. Thanks so much for being a part 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: of the show. When I was a kid, little kid, 29 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: there was the last time I drank for a bottle. 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: It was the last time I wet the bed as 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: a child, the last time I crawled into the big 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: bed with my parents, the last time I walked out 33 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: of the front gate of my primary school. As I 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: got older, I was kind of a bit more aware 35 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: of some of the more significant moments in my life. 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: In my career, there was the last overnight shift I 37 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: ever did at B one I five in Brisbane, I 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: remember it. There was the last shift I ever did 39 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: at SAFM in Adelaide on my way to Sydney to 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: go and work in music television. As you get older, 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: has you become a parent? Stave Davidson, who I used 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: to work with the B one I five. He got 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: me onto this thinking. He said, there will be the 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: last time that I put my child down after carrying her. 45 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: The next time she asked, I'd be like, you're going 46 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: to have to walk, and I won't realize that the 47 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: last time I did it was the last time I 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: did it. You just put them down, and that'll be 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: that there will be the last time that kid will 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: crawl into bed with you. Now, considering these things is 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: sometimes confronting. That's always confronting, one of my kill my kidding. However, 52 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: to deliberately consider it, to actually go out of your 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: way to think about it, can have a remarkable effect 54 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: on how you feel about them when they happen. Now, 55 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: if you're not doing so great, if you're a little 56 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: on a rocky ride at the moment, perhaps you know, 57 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: got listen to another episode for a bit, because I'm 58 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: about to get into some stuff and you know, talk 59 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: about some ways like it's only thinking stuff. But it 60 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: can be a bit much if you're not doing great today, 61 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: that's okay, I try again tomorrow. When I was in 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: full denial of death, when I was not doing very well, 63 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: what I'm about to talk about was very difficult for me. However, 64 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: now I'm able to do this sort of thing all 65 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: the time, and I try to do it at least 66 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: a couple of times a day, three to five times 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: a day, because when you consider the absolute possibility the 68 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: true reality, even though that possibility may be quite remote, 69 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: there is still a possibility that something you do today 70 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: could be the very last time you'll I'll ever do it. 71 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: And when you spend a bit of time thinking about that, 72 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: that thing becomes ever more precious. So there's a couple 73 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: times throughout the day that I would say to do this, 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: Just stop whatever it is you're about to do, and 75 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: just consider, this could be the last time I do this, 76 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: and what would it feel like if it was. What 77 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: would I no longer have in my life if this 78 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: was the last time it happened, What would be different? 79 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: I try to get as really to came with it, 80 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Try to really imagine, try to really picture it. A 81 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: few breaths is enough for me, Like maybe three or 82 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: five breaths. That's it. Ten to fifteen seconds a minute 83 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: if you're willing right. I don't think I'll go that 84 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: far with some of this stuff. But even so, when 85 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: you're done, think about what it now means to do 86 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: this thing that you're about to do. What is the 87 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: perspective that it might be the last time you even 88 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: do it, bring to it, and then do it with 89 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: this new perspective. The chances are that you I don't 90 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: know if it's this might be the last time I 91 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: speak to a partner. Chances that you might not reach 92 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: for your phone when it pings, like you know what, 93 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: that pin can wait because this could be the last 94 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: time I look into their eyes and see their face. 95 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: It might mean that you pick up that phone and 96 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: call someone, tell them how you feel about them. It 97 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: could even just be that you notice the thing that 98 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: you're doing in a completely different way. I've never noticed 99 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: this particular coffee cup or this you know, my bicycle 100 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: has this thing here. An example would be drinking my 101 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: morning cup of coffee, and then before I drink this coffee, 102 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: consider that there is a chance, albeit a remote one, 103 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: but still there is a chance that I won't live 104 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: through today. Just being in that space for a couple 105 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: of breaths, and then when I take a sip of 106 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: that coffee, it's as if it's the first time I 107 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: ever drank a double espresso. It's extraordinary. I feel a cup, 108 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: I feel the curve of the glass or the porcelain. 109 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: I smell the aromas. I don't just like shove it 110 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: down my gullet and carry on whatever I was doing. 111 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's just really relishing the moment. Now. 112 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: I ride bicycles, I ride a motorbike. I am very 113 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: much at peace with the risks that I take being 114 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: out on the road on those things. What it is 115 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: that I am essentially doing when I'm getting from here 116 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: to there? And I do that every single time I 117 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: get on the motorbike. I truly do so. I do 118 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: this quite a bit. I've practiced quite a lot. So 119 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: some of these things might be easy for me than 120 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: they have for other people. But getting into the tough 121 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: stuff is difficult. It takes a willingness to be uncomfortable, 122 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: but only for just a few moments. Like I said, 123 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: five breaths. If you can three on some of the 124 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: hard stuff, I can earn you three breaths. So, for example, 125 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: thinking about a person that you really love, your partner, right, 126 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: think about Audrey, you think about whoever you want to 127 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: think about in those moments, right, and then take a 128 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: breath in and as really as I can imagine. 129 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: It, what would it be like if they got into 130 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: an accident my way home that was no fault of theirs, 131 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: and I never saw her again. 132 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: What would it feel like to lose her? It's not 133 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: a pleasant feeling, I could tell you that. But what 134 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: I do know now, it's only a couple of seconds, 135 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: even just that speaking to you. That's about how long 136 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: it can take, just thinking about it for a couple 137 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: of seconds. What I do know is that, unbeknownst to Audrey, 138 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: when I finished recording this and I go upstairs and 139 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm done working for the day and I greet her, 140 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: there'll be something in my eye, there'll be something in 141 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: my voice, and she'll go fox up with you because 142 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: I'll be like, honey, because it feels closer to I 143 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: don't know when we first started dating. I try to 144 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: take the automaticness sometimes so it can happen long term 145 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: relationship and a mature relationship. You can take a bit 146 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: of that out of it. The really heavy lifting, though, well, 147 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: like you know that comes to do with the younger 148 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: people in your family. It's hard, but it's worth it. 149 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you about that in a minute. I've got 150 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: to take a break. Thanks for sticking with us. We're 151 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: talking about the last time it's a meditative practice. It's 152 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: got its foundations in the Stoic philosophy. It's just the 153 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: way of thinking about whatever you're going to do and 154 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: thinking before you do it, this might be the last 155 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: time it happens, as a way to kind of have 156 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: a more meaningful life, as a way to act more meaningfully, 157 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: more in accordance with your values. The really hard one 158 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: is doing it with your kids. To think about the 159 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: last time you'll ever pick them up. We talked about 160 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: that before, Thinking about the last time you'll ever hold 161 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: them when they're scared, we'll comfort them from a nightmare, 162 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: the last time you help them deal with big feelings 163 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: at school, the last time they live in your house, 164 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: the last time you cook for them, The really big one. 165 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: If you're willing and I do do this is hard, 166 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: but it's extraordinarily powerful. So actually spend time thinking about 167 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: the last time you'll ever see your kids from the 168 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: perspective like really, because I'm gone off eggone. It's really hard. 169 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Just ten seconds of it brings tears to my eyes. 170 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: Even just talking to you about it now, I can 171 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: fill my eyes welling up. But I do try to 172 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: feel in my body what it would be like if 173 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: we lost one of the kids, however old they may be, 174 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: to do it though, all right, what happens then, like, 175 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: come back, take a couple of breaths, get on with 176 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: whatever I was doing, and it might be a couple 177 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: of hours till I see them again because they're at 178 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: school or work or whatever. But then the next moment 179 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: so I have with them will be so much more 180 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: profoundly present, so much more vivid. And that's extraordinary because 181 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: all we have in life is moments, So why would 182 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: we not want to make those moments as much as 183 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: we can? Because there is no future, there is no past. 184 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: There is just this moment, this thing right now, you 185 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: and me. That's it. To think about it on along 186 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: the timeline, if you pull sleep out of it, we 187 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: sleep what a third of our lives generally, so on 188 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: average we probably it's about four thousand We probably there's 189 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: about two thousand, seven hundred weeks of life that we're awake, 190 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: and that's it, two thousand and seven hundred. We live 191 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: about four thousand weeks on average, considering we're asleep for 192 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: a third of it, that's thirteen hundred and something. Oh yeah, 193 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: two thousand, seven hundred weeks, that's what we get. Been 194 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: a hell of a week. Don't worry, there's only two 195 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: thousand and six hundred nine even ago. Like you imagine 196 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: if I told you that on Friday night. There's such 197 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: a finite amount of life, and it's difficult to think about. 198 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: But all I know is that when I do think 199 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: about it, I feel better. I feel way less anxious, 200 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: I feel way less depressed when I am as aware 201 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: of this moment as I can be, Because sometimes my 202 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: brain will take me so far from where I am, 203 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: backwards or forwards in time and distance, like I'm in 204 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: a completely different place in space, and Audrey will look 205 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: at me and go, where'd you go? And I go, oh, sorry, 206 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: I went to when I'm sixty seven, or I went 207 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: to when I was twelve, and I'm there right. So 208 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: my brain can really do that to me and pull 209 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: me out of a moment completely. I know that when 210 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm present, things are just so much better. I know 211 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: it sounds grim. I'm sitting here telling you, hey, you 212 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: think about your kids doing I know it sounds grim, 213 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: but it's actually kind of not just being willing to 214 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: spend the time feeling what it would be like without something, 215 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: really feeling it. It can make us more present, It 216 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: probably makes us more considered, can perhaps help us move 217 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: through the next few moments with more meaning than we 218 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: otherwise would have more empathy for other people, more compassion 219 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: for other people and those things and what life is about, 220 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: isn't it. I hope this isn't the last podcast that 221 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: I get to make. There is a chance, an absolute, real, 222 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: statistical possibility, that this is the last podcast I ever record. 223 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: But if it is, I would like to think that 224 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: everyone who matters to me knows that they matter to me. 225 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: I'd like to think that my affairs are in order. 226 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: And if this is the last thing that I do, 227 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: you will say it's how he would have wanted to go. Likewise, 228 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: I hope this isn't the last podcast that you listen to. 229 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: There is a statistical possibility that it is. It's a 230 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: tiny possibility, but it it exists, all right. It's tens 231 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: of millions to one. Don't worry, but it's there. So 232 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: if it is, I really hope you're happy that this 233 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: episode has been the last one ever. If not, maybe 234 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: you would to listen to another episode of somebody else 235 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: would go that's the one I want to go out on, 236 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: you know, because it's it turns the way you live 237 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: your life into something far more. You know what, No, 238 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: this is what If this is the last time I'm 239 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: ever going to do this, then it's going to be 240 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: that thing. And that's an incredible way and a very 241 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: present way to live. And it's like I said, it 242 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: can be hard going, man, but it makes the moments 243 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: that I'm in really meaningful and yeah, or just like, 244 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: are what is wrong with you? I'm like, just love you, honey, 245 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: thank you. She's like, fuck, you know, Oh, you've been 246 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: doing nothing, doing nothing. Thanks so much for listening. I 247 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. It's this episode is being good for you. 248 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: Please share it with someone. That's a really wonderful way 249 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: that you can help us out here at the show. 250 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't cost you anything, but it helps us keep 251 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: the lights on. 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