Speaker 1: I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming.
Speaker 2: She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of
Speaker 2: my kissing style.
Speaker 1: Boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours.
Speaker 3: He's in a trash bit.
Speaker 1: He's non recyclable catching.
Speaker 2: I loved being loved. I love love.
Speaker 4: On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we have
Speaker 4: a special guest in the studio.
Speaker 2: Fan favorite Aaron Waters from Love Island Season three.
Speaker 4: Stay tuned for all the Aaron goth. Where's Your Head
Speaker 4: At is a podcast that talks all things relationships, breakups,
Speaker 4: reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between.
Speaker 2: This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,
Speaker 2: intimate details, advice, and much more. Okay, Aaron, welcome to
Speaker 2: the podcast. Let's have a chat.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, mate.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Is there a day better something? Yeah? Yeah? One night?
Speaker 2: Yeah I did as well. I'm comfortable sleep.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is your feet hang over? It's not good.
Speaker 2: I was covered in mossy bites.
Speaker 3: How many bugs are there? Ah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, Aaron.
Speaker 4: You said to be the love child of Ellen de
Speaker 4: Generes and Eminem.
Speaker 1: That feel coming out of you?
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what? The Eminem was a given. I
Speaker 3: knew that was going to come when I died in
Speaker 3: my head by the Ellen de Generes was creative and
Speaker 3: I like that, Yeah, did.
Speaker 2: You die your headborn? Were told by producers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it wasn't me that wanted a diet. They
Speaker 3: asked me. I agreed to it though I liked it
Speaker 3: at first, but then lifting it three times in one month,
Speaker 3: it damaged my hair. It's hard to fall out. I
Speaker 3: hate it. Shaved it off when I got out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, because then you got the brown here. I
Speaker 2: saw a couple of photos while you're in there with
Speaker 2: your brown hair hair, and I liked it a lot better.
Speaker 2: I was like, you should have just gone in with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do like the my natural hair color better.
Speaker 3: But I mean I threw myself on the deepad going
Speaker 3: on to reality. I mean, what else could happen?
Speaker 2: So I was like, whenever a producer asked you like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll do it, I'm going I said no.
Speaker 3: At first, like I said no, I was like, we'll
Speaker 3: look like slim shady. I was like, do it and
Speaker 3: they said they sent me mock up photos and that,
Speaker 3: and they were like, no, I look really good, and
Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, fuck it, like I'll just
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they probably were like he look so handsome, he
Speaker 1: looks so great.
Speaker 4: Now. Matt and I were in by room recently and
Speaker 4: it was schoolies.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that, but there was.
Speaker 4: A lot of kids, like young guys with your haircut,
Speaker 4: like like the short blonde hair, and I was like,
Speaker 4: is this an Aaron thing?
Speaker 3: Like is this?
Speaker 1: Has this come from you?
Speaker 3: I think Ronnie will be able to vouch for that one.
Speaker 3: I think he's he's tooken up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's taken over the role.
Speaker 2: He done it as well.
Speaker 3: The other weekend he rocked up and I was like,
Speaker 3: what do you do to your hair mate? And he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I was like the last person that says I've copied.
Speaker 3: I copied you. He's like, I'm done.
Speaker 2: I'm hands He's like it works for you. You've got
Speaker 2: You've stayed on there a bit longer than I did.
Speaker 1: He was inspired by.
Speaker 3: The great I do get a few tags as well
Speaker 3: with people dyeing their hair and then like speaking like
Speaker 3: oh I'm channeling my inner and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So it's pretty cool, like cool, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: But now you've decided to just like go left field,
Speaker 4: you're back to brunette.
Speaker 1: I have to say I love the brunette. It looks
Speaker 1: really good on you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Cool, Yeah, I do like it a lot more for sure.
Speaker 3: And I've never actually shaved my head, so shaving my
Speaker 3: head was like a big thing. It used to be
Speaker 3: a big thing, but after dying and I was like, fuck,
Speaker 3: now I like it, so I'll probably keep it short
Speaker 3: for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you basically came across, in my opinion, and
Speaker 4: that's opinion as the most emotionally intelligent person. I guess
Speaker 4: you could say in the villa, you came across, so well,
Speaker 4: you're a fan favorite.
Speaker 1: What was it like being on the show?
Speaker 3: Tough question because I feel like there's so many words
Speaker 3: that can describe it, but I'd say it was just
Speaker 3: like a big roller coaster. Being on the show was
Speaker 3: something that like you can't pitch, you can't visualize, but
Speaker 3: once you're in there, it's just like it's so fast paced.
Speaker 3: You think you're going to go there and kick back,
Speaker 3: but you don't. So fast you get tested in all areas,
Speaker 3: but overall, like I loved it, absolute great experience. I
Speaker 3: loved it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you enjoyed being on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I enjoyed it. I'll do it again.
Speaker 2: You do it again? Yeah, you can tell he's having
Speaker 2: the honey roots.
Speaker 3: To be honest, last week, I was like, screw this,
Speaker 3: I want to just go home do my thing. But
Speaker 3: now I'm out here again, I'm like, I can do
Speaker 3: it again. It again?
Speaker 2: Well, I say I'll do it again, knowing what I
Speaker 2: know now, I wouldn't do it fresh from the start.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, God, it's just like so up and down though,
Speaker 4: Like I just feel like being in that environment was
Speaker 4: so stressful, at least for me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't think I would ever
Speaker 1: be able to do it again.
Speaker 2: Your anxiety is running it like one hundred the whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that's why I like I was touching on
Speaker 3: it last night my stories as well. It's like being
Speaker 3: able to control chaos, and it's being able to like
Speaker 3: find that little I guess like part in you that
Speaker 3: can stay grounded. So like when everything's going so fast paced,
Speaker 3: you can kind of just like internally like checking with
Speaker 3: yourself and just like kind of be still.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think almost compartmental. Yeah, this isn't ye like
Speaker 2: real something else, like you're still yourself? Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: I found that a couple of times. For the most
Speaker 2: part of it, I got so engulfed in.
Speaker 3: It all yeah, we all, yeah, we all yeah. Happy
Speaker 3: that was everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we heard that one of the producers was telling
Speaker 4: us that there was a potential.
Speaker 1: For a Love Island All Stars.
Speaker 4: Would you be interested in being a part of a
Speaker 4: Love Islent all Stars from Love Island series is all
Speaker 4: around the World, Yeah, definitely, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Interest.
Speaker 2: In the ring everyone. So you said that you want
Speaker 2: to go back on the show, But how does it
Speaker 2: feel coming off the show? Like, how's the new I
Speaker 2: guess reality of your life here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another good question as well. I think for me,
Speaker 3: I've kind of developed, I guess all these sort of
Speaker 3: characteristics before coming onto Love Island, so like personally I
Speaker 3: feel the same. It's just kind of adapting to like
Speaker 3: people knowing who you are, people knowing like they've seen
Speaker 3: me cry, hey, they've seen me happy, they've seen me angry,
Speaker 3: So like all that sort of stuff is something that
Speaker 3: like it takes a little bit of time to get
Speaker 3: used to. But in saying that again, like just being
Speaker 3: able to like stay grounded. I guess, like nothing really
Speaker 3: feels different for me other than the fact that, like
Speaker 3: people know who I am, So.
Speaker 2: How do you deal with that? People coming up to
Speaker 2: you and like obviously thinking they know you, thinking like
Speaker 2: they've witnessed like they have an opinion of who you
Speaker 2: are through a TV show.
Speaker 3: I think that's what you sign up for, So I
Speaker 3: was expecting that for people to have opinions, and like,
Speaker 3: I mean everyone has opinion, Like even before love, everyone's
Speaker 3: got an opinion of you. Now it's just like it's
Speaker 3: just amplified, it's intensified. So I guess dealing with it
Speaker 3: is kind of just like knowing who you are, not
Speaker 3: taking like the negative comments so seriously not holding on
Speaker 3: to them, and like the people that do say good things,
Speaker 3: like I've got all the time in the world for
Speaker 3: because I feel like you're going to say something nice
Speaker 3: and I'll always make time for it, like I'll never
Speaker 3: be like, you know, oh no, I don't want to
Speaker 3: hear it or anything like that. So if someone says
Speaker 3: something nice and like cool, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: I'll take that on. But someone says something bad, like
Speaker 3: it's kind of just like back of my head thrown away?
Speaker 4: Do you agree with the edit that you were given,
Speaker 4: like when you watched it back if you've watched it back, right.
Speaker 3: I've watched like the start and then the end. I
Speaker 3: didn't really watch the middle.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you agree with like the edit you were given?
Speaker 3: I guess yes and no. I feel like for a
Speaker 3: TV show, they've only got an hour, so like I
Speaker 3: can understand like that they can't put everything in there.
Speaker 3: I feel like for me, though I got to showcase
Speaker 3: pretty much all angles of my personality, there were a
Speaker 3: lot of things on there that didn't show, like friendships
Speaker 3: with some of the girls that I had, especially with obviously,
Speaker 3: like everyone knows that me, Mitch and Ryan are very close,
Speaker 3: but there was so much of us that didn't get
Speaker 3: shown as well. But in saying that, it's not friend island,
Speaker 3: it's love island. So it's not bro island, it's not island.
Speaker 3: But we did have a broke couples if.
Speaker 4: Only sometimes you're like, fuck, I wish I could just
Speaker 4: have like one week, so just not recouple with anyone, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just chill. As soon as you chilled, bombshell comes
Speaker 3: or something happens, there's no time.
Speaker 2: I'll give you that. Mate. You came across like quite polarizing,
Speaker 2: like some people came like understood you and then some
Speaker 2: people didn't, And like that's respect to you because you're
Speaker 2: just being yourself the whole time. Yeah, you weren't pretending
Speaker 2: to be anyone else.
Speaker 3: Nah, And I feel like I got asked like who
Speaker 3: are you going to be? Like what sort of person
Speaker 3: going to be? Like when you go on? And I'll
Speaker 3: just look at him and be like what, like be myself?
Speaker 3: And I went on there and I knew, like I
Speaker 3: know me as a person. I do have a strong personality,
Speaker 3: so I knew like some people will be rubbed off
Speaker 3: and in the wrong way, or some people might have
Speaker 3: a perception of me. But I was like, in time,
Speaker 3: people will get to know me and like regardless, like
Speaker 3: I don't care. And eventually like yeah, everyone kind of
Speaker 3: started to like know exactly like who I was, and
Speaker 3: like what I kind of you know, believed in I guess,
Speaker 3: so yeah, like it was just yeah.
Speaker 4: And that's awesome to know that like the people who
Speaker 4: watched you and have a connection with you genuinely kind
Speaker 4: of do know who you are, like probably better than
Speaker 4: like some friends and some family because they've seen you
Speaker 4: go through all of these highs and lows. Definitely, they
Speaker 4: know how you react to certain situations. It's kind of
Speaker 4: cool to have that really close connection with your followers now,
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Like a lot of people watching the show don't
Speaker 3: see like the friendships that you know, we all have,
Speaker 3: I guess with basically, yeah, like people in the villa,
Speaker 3: I know me more, I'd say than you know, friends
Speaker 3: back home that I've known for years and years, And
Speaker 3: like even some of my followers, like you know, they
Speaker 3: message me or they will say something nice, and like
Speaker 3: the stuff that they say and the stuff that they
Speaker 3: realize about me, it's like shocking because like they will say,
Speaker 3: like who I am, they'll kind of describe all I
Speaker 3: love that you're like this and this and that, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, how do you even know that? You know
Speaker 3: what I mean? The fact that you picked up on
Speaker 3: that is crazy because I can't watch the show and
Speaker 3: get invested because I lived it, you know what I mean. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's good to have that bond with those
Speaker 2: people from the show.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope we'll go for life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Like definitely, definitely we'll go for life. Like
Speaker 3: some of the boys like Mitch and Ryan, I've like
Speaker 3: honestly felt like I've known for years and years. Even Chris,
Speaker 3: Like me and Chris have like a very good relationship
Speaker 3: as well, Like we talked a lot on there, which
Speaker 3: they didn't air much.
Speaker 2: So and even like with us, we went through the
Speaker 2: same experience. So for people from previous Love Islands, even
Speaker 2: international ones, you get like a bond with them because
Speaker 2: you understand that you've gone through the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's like a handful of people that have done it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, literally, and it is a crazy experience. So
Speaker 3: when you share it together, you just bond anyway, like
Speaker 3: over it. So like yeah, and he's crazy.
Speaker 2: All right mate. So did you find love and a
Speaker 2: genuine connection on Love Island?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Definitely. I felt like what I went through with
Speaker 3: Jess was definitely real and I felt like it was genuine.
Speaker 3: I guess it didn't work out, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that it wasn't real. That doesn't mean I didn't find
Speaker 3: a connection because I definitely did, but it just didn't
Speaker 3: work out.
Speaker 1: So you think you found love with her.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say love, no, but I definitely found a
Speaker 3: spark like we definitely had a spark, We definitely had
Speaker 3: a connection, and it was definitely going in a good
Speaker 3: direction at one point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think she feels the same way?
Speaker 3: Yeah, look like definitely. I feel like what we had
Speaker 3: was reciprocated. I don't know where her heads at the moment,
Speaker 3: like we don't keep contacts.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean you guys were exclusive, so that's telling,
Speaker 4: Like you obviously were on the same path.
Speaker 1: You were heading towards the same destinyation.
Speaker 4: What the fuck happened? Like I watched this clip so
Speaker 4: many times. I saw you staring off into space, like
Speaker 4: you deep in thought, thinking about who the fuck knows what?
Speaker 1: Like who cares?
Speaker 4: And I feel like that moment as a viewer was
Speaker 4: just blown so out of proportion.
Speaker 1: We want to hear your thoughts, you know.
Speaker 3: You know what? Yeah, Like that is funny that a
Speaker 3: lot of people do say I was staring into space thinking,
Speaker 3: because I actually was, and they didn't air but they
Speaker 3: didn't air it. But that's what I actually said to her,
Speaker 3: was like I was just actually thinking like stuff from
Speaker 3: back home, Like I was so like I wasn't in
Speaker 3: the villain mentally. Yeah, And the fact that people picked
Speaker 3: that up.
Speaker 1: I was like, what, so talk to us about that moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay, right, get into this. So pretty much
Speaker 3: like we were we did a challenge or we did
Speaker 3: two challenges or whatever it was. Everything was fine, like
Speaker 3: everything was good, like we were vibing. All of a sudden,
Speaker 3: just like the challenge and Jess walks off to the toilet.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, thinking nothing of it here, Like I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm having fun jumping around anyway. I'm like, oh, what
Speaker 3: can I do? I'm like, oh, the swing's free. I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm going to go sit over in the
Speaker 3: swing with Jess. I was like, where's Jess. I went
Speaker 3: to go to the bathroom. I'm all happy, walk down
Speaker 3: to the bathroom and I just feel this like energy
Speaker 3: and I'm like but I was like ignoring it. I
Speaker 3: was so oblivious. And then they like Zoe and Jess
Speaker 3: were talking. They both looked at me, and Jess was
Speaker 3: like get out, and I was like all right. I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, like what the fuck? You know? Left
Speaker 3: and then I sat like you've probably seen this. I
Speaker 3: look at Chris and Chris is up, what's up? And
Speaker 3: I'm like i think I've done something. I was oblivious
Speaker 3: and then yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1: A typical boy thing, like have I done something?
Speaker 3: And then I there, So I was retracing my steps
Speaker 3: in my head and I was like, okay, we were good. There,
Speaker 3: we were good.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 3: I didn't say anything bad, and I was like what,
Speaker 3: like what could have happened? And then I was just like, oh,
Speaker 3: go have a chat with her. She comes out anyway,
Speaker 3: long story shot, We had a chat and then I'm like,
Speaker 3: what's up. I honestly thought it wasn't going to be
Speaker 3: me and then she's like oh. I was like, isn't me.
Speaker 3: She's like yes, and I was like okay, here we go,
Speaker 3: like you know, what's up? And then she's like, oh,
Speaker 3: it was the way you looked at me in that
Speaker 3: and I was just like gobsmacked, and I was like,
Speaker 3: are you assuring her that? I was like no, like
Speaker 3: that's not what happened kind of thing, and I personally
Speaker 3: felt like it was going to be that, and then
Speaker 3: that's it. Yeah, and then it started to carry on
Speaker 3: and then I started to get a little bit like, oh, seriously,
Speaker 3: like it's just going to be a thing. And then yeah,
Speaker 3: it just kept going and going and going, and then
Speaker 3: I guess like trying to convince her that I didn't
Speaker 3: do that. I was kind of like, what else am
Speaker 3: I supposed to say? Like I apologize, like you know,
Speaker 3: if I came across in some sort of way, but
Speaker 3: you know, you kind of need to take it on
Speaker 3: board that like I didn't, you know.
Speaker 2: In that situation.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, like every every toxic situation that
Speaker 4: you've ever been in, my heart was like.
Speaker 3: I'm anxious revisiting it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like we saw your you were genuinely confused.
Speaker 4: You had no idea what was going on. I definitely
Speaker 4: was one hundred percent on your side, Like I definitely
Speaker 4: believed what you were saying. I was like, he genuinely
Speaker 4: doesn't know what the fuck has happened, And I don't
Speaker 4: know how you can get that upset with someone for
Speaker 4: looking into space.
Speaker 2: Wait, she thought that you greased her off though, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so pretty much.
Speaker 3: She thought like, so what happened was her breast like
Speaker 3: slipped a little bit. I didn't even see it happen,
Speaker 3: and so I was like sitting there thinking about stuff
Speaker 3: back home. I was like zoned out, and then she's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, like you know my shirt, you know
Speaker 3: my breast fell out, and I was just like, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh yeah, okay, put it back in.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I was just I was like, okay, but the thing
Speaker 3: is right. So it was weird how this happened. But
Speaker 3: that day we had a challenge in the daytime, and
Speaker 3: I kid you not, like it slipped out about three
Speaker 3: times earlier that day and we laughed about it, and
Speaker 3: the fact that it happened again on that night, which
Speaker 3: they didn't show. She like too weird, and I kept
Speaker 3: saying to her, was like, Jess, like it happened three times.
Speaker 3: Then we were pissing ourselves like together, like why would
Speaker 3: I brush you off? Now?
Speaker 1: Why would I change you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So I was just I was just like, you know,
Speaker 3: this is a bit of a joke. But I can
Speaker 3: understand where she's coming from in a sense of like
Speaker 3: if I did mugger off, but like I definitely didn't.
Speaker 3: But the way I guess it snowboard, I don't agree
Speaker 3: with no, like personally, but it was I think her
Speaker 3: point of view was like I was dealing with it
Speaker 3: in the wrong way. So I guess we just kept
Speaker 3: clashing from there.
Speaker 4: M yeah, I mean as someone viewing it from the outside.
Speaker 4: I'm like literally just seeing what they want me to see.
Speaker 4: I was kind of asking myself, like, does she want
Speaker 4: to break up with Aaron?
Speaker 1: And this is like her way of going.
Speaker 4: About, yeah, self sabotaging, Like is she just like you know,
Speaker 4: feels like she's pushing him away? Like it was just
Speaker 4: so confusing to watch, and that was the only conclusion
Speaker 4: that I could come to, because it just made no
Speaker 4: sense watching it as a viewer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm not too sure, like obviously that's something
Speaker 3: that she needs to kind of like say herself, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it definitely comes across that way in some sort of way,
Speaker 3: I can see that. But I guess what I felt
Speaker 3: like after two days of fighting about this one thing,
Speaker 3: like I was so mentally drained and I was like
Speaker 3: completely like I just wanted to just like leave. I
Speaker 3: was like I can't do it anymore, do you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? And I put so much energy towards
Speaker 3: her that I had none to give from anyone else.
Speaker 3: So I was just like, now I'm checking out. And
Speaker 3: then the way she was kind of like you know this,
Speaker 3: this and that, it kind of like persuaded me to
Speaker 3: think that, you know, maybe we could mesh Agan, Yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe we could move past things. Maybe this was like
Speaker 3: a bump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so ultimately, yeah, you wanted to eventually leave, so
Speaker 2: you got off and you did your speech because you'd
Speaker 2: run out of energy and you wanted.
Speaker 1: To leave, which is a big deal.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm like throwing in the towel, Like
Speaker 4: once you say that, it's pretty much cemented, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: probably the first person who has then stayed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, like it was. It was humiliating to
Speaker 3: be able to do all that and then like not leave,
Speaker 3: But at the same time, like I don't regret, you know, staying,
Speaker 3: because so much like has happened that I'm thankful for afterwards.
Speaker 3: But what I felt at the time was real, and
Speaker 3: like that stress I had was real, and like I
Speaker 3: really did check out mentally. But I guess like I
Speaker 3: talked to a lot of people, like they didn't everything,
Speaker 3: but I talked to like a lot of people, so
Speaker 3: I guess like talking about it, thinking it through, and
Speaker 3: then sleeping on it. Like I remember waking up the
Speaker 3: next day in the hideaway and my mind just clicked,
Speaker 3: like I was like, why did I let somebody like
Speaker 3: have so much control over my emotion, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm never letting that happen ever. Against Like when I
Speaker 3: got up, I was just like, let's do it, Like
Speaker 3: I was ready. I was just like, nothing's ever gonna
Speaker 3: break me again. So I was just like, yeah, so
Speaker 3: something clicked, Like in the morning, I was just like,
Speaker 3: fuck it. She could do anything and I wouldn't care.
Speaker 2: Well, what was telling for me as well was her
Speaker 2: reaction when you said you were leaving, like she was shocked,
Speaker 2: Like did she not pick up what she was doing
Speaker 2: and what she was like how she was making you
Speaker 2: feel that she was like literally drained you of your
Speaker 2: energy to the point that you were going to leave.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's something that I had to
Speaker 3: take an account as well, Like, and I did say
Speaker 3: that to her. I was like the fact that like
Speaker 3: you can see that I'm so drained and then you're
Speaker 3: not actually like you know, I think the best thing
Speaker 3: for a relationship is like, no matter what us a
Speaker 3: fighting about, unless it's like unless it's like life or death,
Speaker 3: and yeah, like don't ever check on them. But like
Speaker 3: in a normal fight, no matter what, if you see
Speaker 3: the other person girl or boy like becoming like really
Speaker 3: like fatigued from it. Yeah, sometimes you just kind of
Speaker 3: like got to like forget what you're fighting it and
Speaker 3: be like are you all right? Are you okay? Because
Speaker 3: it's more than just like trying to win an argument,
Speaker 3: Like it's like mental health here kind of thing like stress.
Speaker 2: So were you even trying to win the argument in
Speaker 2: the end and you just say sorry and you like
Speaker 2: let's give it a rest. Yeah, yeah, I kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it does give me making.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you just need to draw the line and say, look,
Speaker 4: I care about you, you care about me, Like it's
Speaker 4: me and you against the problem.
Speaker 1: How are we going to fix this?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Literally?
Speaker 4: Okay, So once you left the show, give us like
Speaker 4: the rundown of what happened with Jess.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so once we left the show all right.
Speaker 3: When we got out the villa, we spent a couple
Speaker 3: of days together and we did watch back a few episodes,
Speaker 3: and one of the episodes obviously was us fighting. I
Speaker 3: guess when we were watching it, like we were fine,
Speaker 3: we were good, we were in a good place. But
Speaker 3: watching it back, it was like she revisited it right
Speaker 3: and started again kind of thing about it, like we
Speaker 3: started to have the same sort of argument, and I
Speaker 3: was like, Jess, like stop reliving it, like it's done,
Speaker 3: it's in the past, like who cares kind of thing.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm not going to go there, give us some.
Speaker 2: Tea, but I might suck her up here like I'm like.
Speaker 1: On the edge of my seat.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it's not it's not like it's not
Speaker 3: hell bad, but like I mean, it just adds fuel
Speaker 3: to the fire. I guess, like for her, not for me.
Speaker 3: It's not true. It's not that bad, all right, fuck
Speaker 3: it all.
Speaker 1: Right, So I mean, if it's what happens, yeah it is.
Speaker 3: It's fact anyway. So I'm all about the facts.
Speaker 1: Well about the facts here.
Speaker 3: It was your head out right. Yeah. So we were
Speaker 3: watching it back. We had like it was me, Mitch, Tina,
Speaker 3: Chris Sewey, like we're all watching it together, Mitch Tina
Speaker 3: have left. And then so we were watching it and
Speaker 3: then like it came on and like the whole energy
Speaker 3: in the room just shifted, you know. Jess got like
Speaker 3: very I guess caught.
Speaker 2: Up about it.
Speaker 3: She was caught up in the moment again watching it
Speaker 3: and then like christ and zoways, suddenly feel very uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: and then just was saying a few things and I
Speaker 3: was just like like, this isn't good. And then they
Speaker 3: left and I kind of like was like, you know
Speaker 3: why you were living in your head like this is
Speaker 3: not something that we need to like continue to talk about.
Speaker 3: And then it was like, oh, you have to you
Speaker 3: have one way of looking at it. I have, you know,
Speaker 3: in my way of looking at it, and you know,
Speaker 3: I don't think we're ever going to meet eid eye.
Speaker 3: And I was just like sitting there thinking like why
Speaker 3: are we still talking about it? I guess, And then
Speaker 3: we we argued a little bit about it, and then
Speaker 3: like sleeping on it. We flew back home, I flew
Speaker 3: to Sydney. We spoke about it again on the phone,
Speaker 3: and same conversations over and over again, and I just yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess like mentally I started to check out again.
Speaker 3: And then being on the outside having so much going
Speaker 3: on was overwhelming as it is, so I didn't really
Speaker 3: I wasn't really calling her like I only probably called
Speaker 3: her like once in a day. And then yeah, then
Speaker 3: she was like what's to go, Like, you're so off me,
Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, I am off you. You know
Speaker 3: what I mean, like, I'm definitely off you because of
Speaker 3: such and such. And then she was like, well, what
Speaker 3: do you want to do about it then? And I
Speaker 3: was like, well, to be honest, I feel like it's
Speaker 3: pretty unhealthy, like I'm not too sure, do you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? And then she was just like yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: and then we kind of agreed that we're just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll part way.
Speaker 4: So I was just like yeah, ah, I ended up
Speaker 4: being quite mutual, or it was mainly you saying I'm
Speaker 4: off you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I definitely like I pulled us into that
Speaker 3: direction because I just I couldn't do it anymore, like
Speaker 3: being on the outside, and I was just like I
Speaker 3: don't want to deal with this in this time in
Speaker 3: my life, Like I've got so much on There's so
Speaker 3: many things i want to do, and I'm spending my
Speaker 3: time like in this situation again, I was just like
Speaker 3: I'm wasting my time here.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, the argumce, what's been going on here for
Speaker 2: like a month? Same argument? Yeah yeah, So.
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: So I was just like, nah, question if in that
Speaker 4: moment when you were like this is really unhealthy, this
Speaker 4: is getting a bit toxic. If Jess turned around and
Speaker 4: was like I want to make this work, I'm going
Speaker 4: to let it go.
Speaker 1: Let's draw a line. I'm never going to bring it
Speaker 1: up again. What would have happened.
Speaker 3: I feel like when Jess and I were good, we
Speaker 3: were good, like it felt good. But I guess towards
Speaker 3: the end I stopped feeling good. So I guess in
Speaker 3: a sense, yeah, maybe we'd still be together if that
Speaker 3: was the case. But I haven't even thought about that,
Speaker 3: Like I've only thought about like what's really happening. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just focusing on me now to be honest,
Speaker 3: like I'm not trying to think about what IF's and that,
Speaker 3: Like I'm actually happy to do, you know, be where
Speaker 3: I'm at now and be single because like I'm happy again.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and I think as well, like when you've
Speaker 4: kind of been in a bit of a top sick situation,
Speaker 4: it does like feel like a weight's been lifted when
Speaker 4: you become single.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely definitely does. For sure, like a lot of
Speaker 3: weight came off my shoulders, like with Jess and I.
Speaker 3: So not being able to, like, you know, I argue
Speaker 3: with someone is a good feeling have you caught up
Speaker 3: with her since I've seen her out So I've seen her.
Speaker 3: I've seen her at Sinaloa and i've seen her last
Speaker 3: weekend at a house. There was like a few people
Speaker 3: there having drinks in that and you know, I rocked
Speaker 3: up and she was there, Like I say hello, like
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Like I'm an adult.
Speaker 3: I don't have to be like, you know, weird or anything.
Speaker 3: So like walked in there, say hey, Jess, how are
Speaker 3: you going? And that's it, Like are you going to
Speaker 3: are you going to get a full blown conversation for me? No,
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean. I don't feel the
Speaker 3: need to talk to her like in any sort of way,
Speaker 3: but like I have respect for her still, like she's
Speaker 3: still you mean, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 3: was just like, hey, how are you going? And then
Speaker 3: I'll do my own things.
Speaker 4: So yeah, how like receptive is she when you come
Speaker 4: up and say hey, is she like high back or.
Speaker 3: She's like she's she's like sees me from the other
Speaker 3: like side of the room and gets like I don't
Speaker 3: know what to do, and then I kind of bread
Speaker 3: the ass and I'm like Jess, like how you going?
Speaker 3: Like and then I'm just like, yeah, I'll just go
Speaker 3: do my own thing. But yeah, I just I personally
Speaker 3: don't feel the need Like if you kind of cut
Speaker 3: it off with someone, I don't feel they need to
Speaker 3: revisit for any reason. I don't want to know what
Speaker 3: you're doing, to be honest, like you know, out of mind,
Speaker 3: Like I'm doing my own thing.
Speaker 4: You do you like it's a really good way to
Speaker 4: like get over a breakup.
Speaker 2: That's how I we've established that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think the worst I've never done it.
Speaker 3: But I think the worst thing is to like break
Speaker 3: up with someone and have like become friends and become friends,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like prolong.
Speaker 4: And that is the guy who does this and goes
Speaker 4: to anguish and heartache.
Speaker 2: It prolongs it for a I prolonged for so long. Yeah,
Speaker 2: four months of just agony. Yeah, not a nice person.
Speaker 3: And I think I think that's when you build bad
Speaker 3: habits and you build like I guess, issues with you
Speaker 3: within yourself, you know what I mean. So I guess
Speaker 3: like for me, cutting off, it's like just for me
Speaker 3: to kind of cement who I am and like not
Speaker 3: play with my own emotions because like going back to
Speaker 3: your X and like, you know, having sex or hooking
Speaker 3: up or anything like that. It isn't a good thing mentally.
Speaker 1: So that's laughing because you're just like guilty conten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, we won't dive into that. This
Speaker 2: is about you.
Speaker 1: It sucks experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. So I think it's common knowledge
Speaker 2: now everyone knows that the finale wasn't recorded live. You
Speaker 2: guys pre recorded three different outcomes. There's a rumor going
Speaker 2: around that when you guys won and you got just
Speaker 2: who you got to pick the money up, that Jess
Speaker 2: took the money. Is this true?
Speaker 3: No, No, it's not true.
Speaker 1: Have you been getting dms about it?
Speaker 3: I've been getting dms. I've been getting people running up
Speaker 3: to me in the street asking me, clubs asking me,
Speaker 3: and no, the answer is no, I got the envelope.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I got the envelope.
Speaker 3: She didn't get the envelope, and I chose love, so
Speaker 3: I chose to share. So no, she didn't take fifty grands.
Speaker 4: Okay, Aaron, there's a few key islanders that we'd like
Speaker 4: to talk to you about, the first one being Ryan.
Speaker 1: Did he get a really bad edit?
Speaker 4: Because I've seen that you're quite close friends with him
Speaker 4: outside of the villa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, super close. Yeah, definitely. I feel like but in
Speaker 3: saying that a bad editor, I'm not going to say
Speaker 3: it was a bad editor, but I guess there was
Speaker 3: a lot. There was a lot of things Tar and
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, I think there's always going to be a TV
Speaker 3: show that has to have a villain and then there's
Speaker 3: a good guy, you know what I mean. And you know,
Speaker 3: unfortunately Ryan was portrayed as the villain, but definitely like
Speaker 3: in real life, no, he's not a villain. Luck He's
Speaker 3: actually like one of the nicest blokes I've ever met, Like,
Speaker 3: you know, like he will bend over backwards for his friends.
Speaker 3: Like he's super nice, super caring. Like he was like
Speaker 3: pretty much at the father and in the villa, like
Speaker 3: he would always make the food, he'd make coffees for everyone,
Speaker 3: Like he was always like, yeah, he had a lot
Speaker 3: of connections with everyone in there, and he was just
Speaker 3: like a big energy. Like when he left, like it was,
Speaker 3: it wasn't the same.
Speaker 4: It's hard when as a viewer because we don't get
Speaker 4: to see these like great parts of his personality, so
Speaker 4: we just saw like him fucking over person to person,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 3: We get like, I see there's a lot about that
Speaker 3: as well that yeah, yeah, go on yeah.
Speaker 4: But then I was just gonna say as well, like
Speaker 4: and we get like the him like parading around that
Speaker 4: he's like slept with five hundred women, and then we
Speaker 4: like piece it all together and it doesn't come like
Speaker 4: doesn't come across well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think with the five hundred. I think
Speaker 3: for him, he was kind of like his attitude was
Speaker 3: like I'm going to walk in there and I'm going
Speaker 3: to just like wear my heart on my sleeve kind of.
Speaker 3: And that's a big thing because I can tell you
Speaker 3: right now, like not everyone was honest about them numbers
Speaker 3: so the same yeah, and no one will be. So
Speaker 3: I guess for him coming in to say that, I
Speaker 3: personally like, for my morals, I'm like, I don't agree
Speaker 3: with it. But at the same time, it's like like
Speaker 3: he was courageous to actually like, you know, do it.
Speaker 3: So I was like good on him, Like you know
Speaker 3: what I mean at the end of the day, like
Speaker 3: it's just a body count, like it doesn't you know,
Speaker 3: define you. So I guess for him to be honest
Speaker 3: like that is a good thing. I guess that's how
Speaker 3: you take it. And he definitely is not like walking
Speaker 3: around like oh yeah, like I've done father under anything
Speaker 3: like that. He was kind of just like, yeah, like look,
Speaker 3: this is me, but you know, I'm here for love
Speaker 3: and I'm here for a change.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and he he was there for love though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely did come in there for love, like
Speaker 3: if I can say that obviously, like watching it from
Speaker 3: an audience perspective, like it doesn't really seem like that
Speaker 3: when he's turning heads and stuff. But I think we
Speaker 3: all did. But we all have different ways of dealing
Speaker 3: with things. And I think for Ryan, communication and like
Speaker 3: sharing like your deep emotions was a hard thing and
Speaker 3: that's something that he was developing in there because before
Speaker 3: that Love Island, like, he was not good at it.
Speaker 2: So when he left with Taylor, did they give it
Speaker 2: to go? Yeah, yeah, they gave it. They gave it
Speaker 2: a red hot crack for sure, like him with Taylor.
Speaker 3: But speaking on that, that is a very touchy subject.
Speaker 4: We've actually had the rumors of Taylor walking in on
Speaker 4: Ryan with another girl.
Speaker 3: I'm not true. She didn't walk in on him, No happened.
Speaker 2: So she didn't walk in balls deep.
Speaker 3: No, she didn't walk in. I'm not too sure what happened,
Speaker 3: but I know that the fact that Taylor didn't walk
Speaker 3: in and see anything. No, no, hey, she heard she heard.
Speaker 3: I'm not too sure if she heard that, but I
Speaker 3: know she didn't walk in because I saw Ryan the
Speaker 3: same day.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, can you tell us what happens?
Speaker 3: I'm not Ryan. You have to get Ryan into that.
Speaker 1: We can't get everyone favorite.
Speaker 3: I'd say what happened was? Can I call Ryan to
Speaker 3: see if I can say speak.
Speaker 4: Z?
Speaker 3: Hey? Mate? So I'm in the podcast at the moment.
Speaker 3: I've got Matt Nanna with me.
Speaker 2: How are.
Speaker 3: So obviously the man? The man himself is in topic now,
Speaker 3: so I'm talking about you. I'm just wondering, can I
Speaker 3: touch on you and Taylor subject? Yeah? Yeah, but you
Speaker 3: know what I'm like. You know, I've always got you
Speaker 3: in my heart? Mate, So see how good I am?
Speaker 3: I ringing before I say it? All right? All right,
Speaker 3: all right, no worries Ryan? All right, there was our disclaimer.
Speaker 2: All right, So what happened? Now we've got permission?
Speaker 3: Yeah, permission from the big dog. Yeah all right, So
Speaker 3: I'm just joking. So pretty much like him and Taylor
Speaker 3: definitely gave it a red hot crack for sure. Taylor
Speaker 3: was very indecisive whether she wanted to be in a
Speaker 3: relationship or not, but she was definitely like, you know,
Speaker 3: still open to getting to know Ryan. Ryan was the same.
Speaker 3: But I think for Ryan, Ryan needed stability and he
Speaker 3: needed some sort of reassurance where like it was going
Speaker 3: to go somewhere where Ryan was kind of sitting on
Speaker 3: the fence like what's happening? And I know with Taylor
Speaker 3: traveling to Perth and things like that, I'm not exactly sure,
Speaker 3: but I think there was some sort of like argument
Speaker 3: or talk that they had prior like landing in Perth
Speaker 3: that she was like, oh, you know, maybe we should
Speaker 3: just kind of like take it easy this weekend, not
Speaker 3: really have contact or something like that. So I think
Speaker 3: Ryan kind of took that as in, like, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm free. Yeah, Like I'm like, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: what was like a break sort of thing. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: it was kind of weird, and they were never like
Speaker 3: officially a thing, you know. I mean, they were only
Speaker 3: like getting to know nah, they were only getting to
Speaker 3: know each other. So I guess for her to say that,
Speaker 3: like even like we all kind of like on the outside, like, mate,
Speaker 3: is she really that into you? Do? You know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Like it doesn't seem like it, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. And I will proudly say it doesn't
Speaker 3: seem like that even if she was there to be
Speaker 3: like no, you can't say, you know, like, no one
Speaker 3: does that. I personally wouldn't do it. So yeah, and
Speaker 3: then you know, we went out and whatnot, and yeah,
Speaker 3: we picked out some chicks. There was no there was
Speaker 3: no picking up chicks or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I just got off a show mate were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then so we went out. We had a
Speaker 3: good time. I think Ryan maybe a kiss a girl
Speaker 3: or something like that. You have to ask him for that.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit vague.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a vague. I wasn't in there at that time,
Speaker 3: so I was off doing my own thing.
Speaker 2: But there we go.
Speaker 3: I was actually I was actually watching a movie by myself, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Netflix and Chill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I guess like out of that, Ryan was like,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of when do I go from here
Speaker 3: and look mate, like you know, the end of the day,
Speaker 3: you know you won't official. You know, you both are
Speaker 3: so rocky, like if you're going to like pursue something,
Speaker 3: just be honest, like, just straight up tell her.
Speaker 2: So we did.
Speaker 3: He told her. I didn't think she took it very well.
Speaker 3: And then I think she was kind of like going like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, it could have went somewhere this
Speaker 3: and that, and then like like and then she Taylor's
Speaker 3: text me because Taylor and I do get along, like,
Speaker 3: and she came to me for a lot of advice.
Speaker 3: So she came to me. She rang me up. She's like,
Speaker 3: you know, what do I do? Aaron kind of thing.
Speaker 3: I don't want to put you in the middle of this,
Speaker 3: And I did get in the middle of it, but
Speaker 3: I don't, Yeah, I don't. I don't want to. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is the last time talking about this right now.
Speaker 3: I'm over it. But yeah, and then she was like
Speaker 3: where do I go from here? Like what do I do?
Speaker 3: And I was kind of just like, look, personally, I
Speaker 3: feel like you both are probably not mentally there for
Speaker 3: a relationship right now, and I feel like what's happened
Speaker 3: already just shows that, like you're not there. So I
Speaker 3: was like just part ways, like you know, you can
Speaker 3: revisit it in a year or two years, like just
Speaker 3: working yourself, like you both need soul searching for sure,
Speaker 3: and coming out of the villa with all this pressure,
Speaker 3: you both aren't taking it as well as you should be.
Speaker 3: So I was like, just like I personally feel like
Speaker 3: you need part ways, And I told Ryan the same thing.
Speaker 3: They didn't listen to me, so they kept like trying
Speaker 3: to revisit it, and I think they were just like
Speaker 3: clashing after that, and then I think they both came
Speaker 3: to an agreement that they were just like, yeah, maybe
Speaker 3: it's best, so like good on them both, Like you
Speaker 3: know what I mean for giving a crack, but sometimes
Speaker 3: you just need to kind of like song on the towel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, let's move on to Courtney.
Speaker 2: Look where's your head at? With our recats, we said
Speaker 2: some some little things about Courtney. We were we weren't.
Speaker 4: Too hard, She wasn't coming across well to the viewing public,
Speaker 4: Like the audience had a lot to say about Courtney.
Speaker 4: But you know firsthand because you were in there with her,
Speaker 4: So what's.
Speaker 3: Just coupled up with her? First? I think about that,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, look, I'll say this first though, like
Speaker 3: no matter who you are, I can always find something
Speaker 3: good about someone, don't get me wrong, And like I
Speaker 3: have had good conversation with Courtney, and there are times
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, you know, like you do have
Speaker 3: a bit of a head on your shoulders, like you're
Speaker 3: not just sucking twenty four to seven. But I could
Speaker 3: tell you right I could tell you right now, everything that,
Speaker 3: everything that, everything that I listen, listen, everything that I
Speaker 3: do say is one hundred percent authentic. I've said all
Speaker 3: of this to her, Like even on the finale, she like,
Speaker 3: you know, I think no the day before the finale
Speaker 3: when like she when she left with Noah, she was
Speaker 3: like looked at me, She's like, see her like Aaron
Speaker 3: my favorite. I'm like, well, you know, she made a
Speaker 3: joke that because she knows like we clash. She knew
Speaker 3: like I didn't. I wasn't fond of her, but we
Speaker 3: kind of just joke about it now, like you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So, but yeah, she grinds my gears.
Speaker 3: I can tell you that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she grinded our gears watching.
Speaker 3: I think with her, like she just sometimes she can't
Speaker 3: read a room, you know what I mean, And she
Speaker 3: kind of like sticks her herself in places where she
Speaker 3: shouldn't I guess, and I guess like how she deals
Speaker 3: with things, like maybe she needs to work on that
Speaker 3: a little bit more.
Speaker 2: But I was like, yeah, I was giving a benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt until she did that whole thing in
Speaker 2: front of Noah.
Speaker 3: For me, like for me, And I said this to
Speaker 3: her as well, like face to face, I said, like,
Speaker 3: come on, Courtney, like what she would like watching it back,
Speaker 3: watching her saying what she said in Cassa Moore and
Speaker 3: then like Nick walking in empty handed, and she was
Speaker 3: with Noah and then for her to break like I
Speaker 3: was next to her and I was watching and I
Speaker 3: was thinking, geez, are you kidding? Like she was breaking
Speaker 3: down of like obviously like regret, thinking like Nick was
Speaker 3: going to come in, and she was like, what what
Speaker 3: have I done? And I was like and that's when
Speaker 3: I was like, I was telling Noah. I was like, Noah,
Speaker 3: I personally don't feel like she's there for the right
Speaker 3: reasons because of that. And I told them both that
Speaker 3: they both know this, so like yeah, so that's why
Speaker 3: I was just like so off it because I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, how can you pick someone say all that?
Speaker 3: And then Nick walks in and then she's like breaking
Speaker 3: down in tears and then like was literally like get
Speaker 3: off me, get off me. Yeah, like no one would
Speaker 3: be like are you are right, and she'd like get
Speaker 3: off me.
Speaker 4: I felt so bad for him, like we were saying
Speaker 4: in our recounts, like our heart was like breaking for
Speaker 4: him because he just sat there.
Speaker 2: It was just like, yeah, I put myself in your shoes,
Speaker 2: and I was like, do not want to be that bloke?
Speaker 3: Right? No, not at all, Like yeah, awkward ass And
Speaker 3: for Courtney to just be like get off me would
Speaker 3: have like, yeah, it would have been crushing for him.
Speaker 3: But no, I think Noah dealt with it like very
Speaker 3: very well, Like looking back at it as well and
Speaker 3: seeing what he was saying in the beach, I think
Speaker 3: he did really really well. And talking to him personally
Speaker 3: in there, like I helped him with a few things,
Speaker 3: like mentally because he didn't know what to do, like
Speaker 3: and he didn't know if he was making the right decisions.
Speaker 3: So I guess he like he did well with exploring
Speaker 3: like Jade and exploring other things. But I think he
Speaker 3: kind of came back to revisit Courtney, but no, they're
Speaker 3: not not together now, so but yeah, I think he
Speaker 3: dealt with it well.
Speaker 4: Talking about like you helping Noah out. You were kind
Speaker 4: of like the go to guy for advice in there,
Speaker 4: which we saw like time and time again, and I
Speaker 4: feel like every time he gave someone advice, I was like, fuck, yes, Aaron,
Speaker 4: like this, like this is great advice.
Speaker 1: If anyone has a problem, Aaron is your guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah it wasn't. It was a bit like that. And
Speaker 3: for the photos every every night for the for the coupling,
Speaker 3: and sorry every night before the coupling, like all the
Speaker 3: girls like Aaron photos. But anyway, the boyfriend ptography, I'm
Speaker 3: coming out. Yeah, I definitely was the person to give advice,
Speaker 3: like you know, like that's fine, Like if I care
Speaker 3: about Someone'm always going to give him the time of
Speaker 3: the day. And I cared about everyone in that villa.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, what did you say, that's trauma.
Speaker 2: For you or yeah, that's past traumas.
Speaker 1: That like, that's past traumas for you.
Speaker 3: With with Chris about I think so yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 3: at that stage, like Chris was really like into Rachel
Speaker 3: and Rachel was really into him, and that's Rachel.
Speaker 2: Was Rachel wanted more Like with Chris and Rachel what
Speaker 2: happened because she obviously left needed a whole Rachel who
Speaker 2: the next.
Speaker 3: Day, Yeah, I personally.
Speaker 2: All right, I got some tea.
Speaker 3: I got some tea. Guys, really, I've got some tea
Speaker 3: here that nobody knows yet. But I'll happily say this
Speaker 3: because I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: So you're hearing it here first on where your head.
Speaker 3: I love this moments, all right. So before the recaughling, okay,
Speaker 3: so before the recoupling of the night that Rachel got
Speaker 3: dump from the villa, she actually pulled me for a chat. Right, So,
Speaker 3: like I'm walking to the toilet, and then Rachel and
Speaker 3: Chris are on the bed like far side of the bedroom,
Speaker 3: and then I'm walking to the toilet mine of my
Speaker 3: own business. And Rachel goes and where you're going. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm going to the toilet. She's like, when you come back,
Speaker 3: let's go for a chat. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: like weird when the toilet came out, and then like
Speaker 3: Chris looked very like at that time, me and Chris
Speaker 3: had a few chats, but we didn't know each other
Speaker 3: that we do now, you know. So Chris was like,
Speaker 3: you know, like he was awkward from like me obviously
Speaker 3: getting pulled from him. Sorry, Rachel, anyway, get there. And
Speaker 3: then she's like told like told Chris to go, but
Speaker 3: like not nicely. It was a bit weird, Like she
Speaker 3: was like okay, like you can go now. And then
Speaker 3: I was like, what's going on? I sat down and
Speaker 3: she's like, so get there. She goes like, where's your
Speaker 3: head hat? So she was like that. Earlier that day,
Speaker 3: we had a challenge and we kissed in the challenge.
Speaker 3: By I mean a lot of us kissed in the challenge,
Speaker 3: and she was like, you know, I kind of felt,
Speaker 3: you know, I felt like something from that kiss, like
Speaker 3: what about you? Right? And then like I've looked at
Speaker 3: her and I'm just like looking at like looking straight,
Speaker 3: and then she said and I just went like what,
Speaker 3: Like are you kidding or did I hear that?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: And then she's like yeah, I'm just kind of knowing,
Speaker 3: like I want to know where your head's at. And
Speaker 3: I was like with who, like me and you? She
Speaker 3: said yeah, and I was like what. I was gobsmacked,
Speaker 3: And I was like I was like, how do I
Speaker 3: answer this because I'm not like that at all? And
Speaker 3: I was like, look, to be honest, I was like
Speaker 3: I'm interested in Jess, like eyes of a Jess, like
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not even thinking about anyone else. And
Speaker 3: she was like okay, but then she kept like rewording
Speaker 3: the question in different, like different ways, like to try
Speaker 3: to get another answer out of me. And then like
Speaker 3: at one point, I was like, Rachel, like I don't
Speaker 3: know what you want me to say, like like if
Speaker 3: I'm not there, I'm not there, like my eyes are
Speaker 3: for Jess. And then she was like yeah, okay, and
Speaker 3: then she like looked very very sad and like she
Speaker 3: got like a little bit like emotional, and then like
Speaker 3: she was like, Okay, that just reassures me with Chris more,
Speaker 3: and I was like what do you mean? I was like,
Speaker 3: what about aren't you into Chris?
Speaker 1: Like and then reassure you?
Speaker 3: And then so yeah, I've walked out and I've been
Speaker 3: going like in my head like what just happened? And
Speaker 3: then Ryan's right there, and of course like me and
Speaker 3: Ryan's top close. I told Ryan. I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I screw this, Like I need to go tell Chris
Speaker 3: straight away because I'm not trying to like you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. I was like I need to go
Speaker 3: tell him. So I went straight to Chris on the
Speaker 3: day bed and he was with Mitch. I said boys
Speaker 3: and the talk, and I was like, Chris, I told
Speaker 3: him straight up and Chris was like, thanks, but I
Speaker 3: appreciate telling me. And then on the grape Vine you
Speaker 3: can ask Mitch this when you gets here. But apparently
Speaker 3: there was something in there as well with Mitch, but
Speaker 3: I won't go there. That's something for him, wow, but
Speaker 3: not on Mitch's side. Rachel was like another me.
Speaker 1: So basically Rachel's jumping a little bit. She's a bit of.
Speaker 3: Like a yeah, and I'll easily say that because, like
Speaker 3: I know, she's like tried to say is well coming
Speaker 3: out the villa that I snapped at her that night
Speaker 3: and she told a few girls that I snapped at her,
Speaker 3: and like, I just want to make sure that like
Speaker 3: people hear my side of the story, because I was like,
Speaker 3: I definitely did not snap at you. I just like
Speaker 3: kind of rejected you in a way, and she didn't
Speaker 3: like that. She didn't take it well. So for her
Speaker 3: to like go around saying that, I was like, I
Speaker 3: didn't like that slide with me at all.
Speaker 4: So why didn't the produces that that was such good
Speaker 4: at TV? And you know what, it's kind of fucked
Speaker 4: up because it made Chris look really bad.
Speaker 1: He moved on really quickly to Zi.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, yeah, like that's not really fair
Speaker 4: on him because I.
Speaker 1: When he first came in, I was like, really great guy.
Speaker 4: Then after that I was a bit like if you're
Speaker 4: on him and I had to like rewarm up to him,
Speaker 4: when in fact, like Rachel was kind of off him.
Speaker 3: And then she got dumped that night.
Speaker 2: All right, So your coupling history was you coupled with Courtney,
Speaker 2: moved to Ari, and then stayed with Jess for the
Speaker 2: rest of the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Correct, Okay, So, knowing what you know now, knowing who
Speaker 2: you know, what you know about everyone, who would you
Speaker 2: have coupled with.
Speaker 3: I would like to say I would have coupled up
Speaker 3: with Jess like at the start, like be honest, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, because in the villa I was interested for sure,
Speaker 3: like since the start, really, but I guess at the
Speaker 3: same time, the way things panned out panned out for
Speaker 3: you know, the right reason, So like, you know, do
Speaker 3: I I don't regret anything, but like if I had
Speaker 3: to go back, i'd say Jess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Jess, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean like in the Villa, I was like
Speaker 3: all eyes for Jess. I didn't have eyes for anybody else.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he did very well in Cassa More. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were backing on. We were like, yes, Aaron and
Speaker 1: Mitch tatting Straw.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see a loyal guy I love.
Speaker 3: Yeah. If I want something, I go on hundred percent
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 2: All right. So had you watch previous seasons and was
Speaker 2: it everything you expected from watching those seasons or was
Speaker 2: it a little bit different.
Speaker 3: It was definitely different, like behind the scenes stuff and
Speaker 3: like the build up to it. Obviously we had like
Speaker 3: a lockdown period and stuff like that was something I
Speaker 3: didn't expect. The pressure in there was something that I
Speaker 3: didn't actually realize how bad it was going to be.
Speaker 3: Like it was a lot, like there was a lot
Speaker 3: of pressure in there, and it was very intense. Not
Speaker 3: having any contact, no phones, you know, no TV, no music.
Speaker 3: Music was a huge thing for me. Not even having
Speaker 3: like a book to read, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: was something that you don't have an outlet. So I
Speaker 3: guess you underestimate it in a way, but you know
Speaker 3: what you sign up for. It was still a great experience.
Speaker 3: You still have so much fun, but the pressure in
Speaker 3: there is like intensified.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know when you don't have an outlet as well,
Speaker 4: it means that you're just.
Speaker 1: In your head.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're hyper emotional, and I guess that's kind of
Speaker 4: what they want.
Speaker 3: And honestly, I think the first week, like a few
Speaker 3: of us boys like we are voices, Like we lost
Speaker 3: our voices because we talked so much. And then challenges
Speaker 3: like they want energy, say like you're bringing energy. You're screaming,
Speaker 3: you're yelling, and then like you're joking around with the boys,
Speaker 3: you're always laughing, and then you're chatting, like you're chatting
Speaker 3: to one girl about yourself and then you chat to
Speaker 3: another girl about someone else's problem. You're just always chatting,
Speaker 3: always on the go.
Speaker 2: Like, I'll give you boys one thing. You guys weren't
Speaker 2: afraid to show your emotions. A lot of you boys cry.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I copped a lot of slack for coming
Speaker 2: off my season, for being the bloke that cry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it was good to see a bunch of men
Speaker 2: crying on TV. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I think, like as a man, like if
Speaker 3: you try to, like I guess criticize someone for crying,
Speaker 3: it just makes you look stupid because everybody cries. It's
Speaker 3: just emotion at the end of the day, and it
Speaker 3: shows that we have emotion. And you know, I love
Speaker 3: these boys and I'd still cry for those boys, So
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter for me, Like crying is the natural things.
Speaker 2: Speaking about emotion between blokes, you and Taku had a
Speaker 2: row quite early on in the season. Talk us through that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I guess it was something that was blown
Speaker 3: up a lot. Like on the Shape it was blown up,
Speaker 3: but like in real life, it was something that happened
Speaker 3: once and then the next day we were like we're
Speaker 3: good again. You know, we're good from the start, We're
Speaker 3: good after that, We're good now, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Like we've got we've got a good little
Speaker 3: connection there. So I guess it was like I was
Speaker 3: in the I think they ate it, but it was
Speaker 3: like in a kind of like I don't know what
Speaker 3: you call it, the living room, common common room room,
Speaker 3: don't get any ideas, Rachel. Yeah, So we were in
Speaker 3: there and then like the fruit platter or whatever, and
Speaker 3: I made a joke. I was like, I imagine if
Speaker 3: I won't like you know that it was completely like
Speaker 3: a joke. It was just banter. Tarkt wasn't there, and
Speaker 3: it got filtered through. Apparently Jordan filtered it through. You
Speaker 3: know now that I know coming out, I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't know that. Yeah, so he filtered it through. So
Speaker 3: like you know, when you've got Chinese whispers, it can
Speaker 3: always come across low whispers. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: like looking back at like that was a start, like
Speaker 3: at the start of the villa, like everybody was getting
Speaker 3: to know everybody, like things were fun, like you know,
Speaker 3: we love getting texts. There was no anxiety when text
Speaker 3: come like things were fun then. So for me to
Speaker 3: say that was pure banter at the time, and I
Speaker 3: think he took it the wrong way. But in saying that,
Speaker 3: you know, when it's Chinese whispers, maybe I would have
Speaker 3: thought the same as him when I had someone else
Speaker 3: filtering my my dialogue, I guess, or like whatever I said.
Speaker 2: You know, So when I watched that, I literally said,
Speaker 2: no harm, no foul play on from what you did.
Speaker 2: I thought there was no dramas and I didn't think
Speaker 2: it should have even been brought up. Yeah, it should
Speaker 2: have gotten to that point there should have been no
Speaker 2: chat about it still to this day.
Speaker 3: Like I agree, I don't think that it should have
Speaker 3: been anything, but it happened. And for me as a person,
Speaker 3: like as much as like I am nice and I'm
Speaker 3: very understanding when it comes to you know, other people
Speaker 3: and like their their opinions, but me as a person
Speaker 3: and like you know how I've been brought up, I
Speaker 3: will not let anybody like walk over me, like no
Speaker 3: matter who it is. So like if somebody says something,
Speaker 3: I will voice my opinion.
Speaker 2: Two questions on that thoughts on Taku love him great bloke? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and was just playing him when she coupled with him.
Speaker 3: I mean, and that's something that like, like at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, it is my opinion. So I
Speaker 3: don't know facts like if she was playing or if
Speaker 3: she was not. At the same time, it was the
Speaker 3: start of the villa, so like we all had a
Speaker 3: right to kind of put our feelers out and get
Speaker 3: to know everybody. A lot of people did the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So like did she play him? I can't say, Like
Speaker 3: you know, who knows. I don't know what randal came
Speaker 3: across that way, came across that way, it came across
Speaker 3: that she played me as well, but like who knows really, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you never really know.
Speaker 1: What's happening with Taku and Mikayla.
Speaker 3: I actually, yeah, I've heard it's a little bit rocky,
Speaker 3: I think, but I actually haven't spoke too much about it,
Speaker 3: like specifically about him and Mikayla. I've seen the color
Speaker 3: on the weekend. I didn't speak to her about Taco,
Speaker 3: just said hi, like you know, nothing like that. So yeah,
Speaker 3: not too sure.
Speaker 4: Who do you think was the most toxic person in
Speaker 4: the villa out of the cast?
Speaker 3: Toxic? Toxic Courtney? Yeah, I would say Courtney, yeah, or
Speaker 3: to be honest, like Rachel Courtney, like I can't lie,
Speaker 3: Like what she said to me threw me off, and
Speaker 3: then her trying to twist me like and on TikTok
Speaker 3: as well. She tried to say that like I did
Speaker 3: it as well, and I was just like, nah, like
Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't fly with me, trying to like
Speaker 3: spread things that you know haven't happened, And she did it.
Speaker 4: With other people as well, So I'd say that, Yeah,
Speaker 4: do you think it's chasing Clout?
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, one hundred percent, Like she's just trying to
Speaker 3: stay relevant. So for me, I don't reply to any
Speaker 3: of it, nor do I like get involved within of it,
Speaker 3: because that's what she wants, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I'm just out here on my thing anyway.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and that's good. Stick in your lane, just
Speaker 2: to your thing. Those people will try their hardest, but
Speaker 2: you'll just keep going. Yeah, exactly, all right, Aaron, So
Speaker 2: you've come off Love Island, one of the main characters
Speaker 2: of this season. What's next for you? What are your
Speaker 2: future goals?
Speaker 3: What's next for me is just to get back in
Speaker 3: a routine. Like I know, I'm moving into another place
Speaker 3: soon in Queensland, so at the end of the year,
Speaker 3: I can't wait for that, and just like getting into
Speaker 3: routine work as much as I can, Like I want
Speaker 3: to keep modeling, so you know, like coming into the villa,
Speaker 3: like you know, not having sort of any routine at all.
Speaker 3: Just I'm so excited to just be settled, get in
Speaker 3: a routine, keeps arounding myself with good people. And like,
Speaker 3: do I have any specific goals, Like I'd say, like
Speaker 3: work as much as I can, get back into fitness,
Speaker 3: and just like I guess keep using my platform in
Speaker 3: a good way. But to be specific is like so
Speaker 3: hard because so many things change and you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, So it's hard to kind of narrow it down.
Speaker 3: But for me, it's just like be happy, keep doing
Speaker 3: what I'm doing, and just like yeah.
Speaker 4: And like you've just been through this whirlwind experience, like
Speaker 4: you're doing so well. You seem so grounded, so lovely.
Speaker 5: Question, Yeah, if your dream girl walked into the studio
Speaker 5: right now, would you be open to like falling in
Speaker 5: love or you really closed at the moment.
Speaker 3: I'd say for right now, Like if I were to
Speaker 3: meet if I were to meet my dream girl, it
Speaker 3: would take some time to get you know, to get
Speaker 3: to know them obviously, because like I just came out
Speaker 3: the villa, you know, I went through a rollercoaster with
Speaker 3: Jess right now, Like, I'm not chasing anything. I'm not
Speaker 3: looking for anything. I'm not out there looking around. But
Speaker 3: if they were to you know, walking on me, walking
Speaker 3: on me, what if my dream girl, if my dream
Speaker 3: girl you know, were to come up and we matched,
Speaker 3: you know, we had the same sort of energy and
Speaker 3: we clicked. Yeah, absolutely, I'll get to know them for sure.
Speaker 3: Like I feel like i'm mentally, you know, I'm there
Speaker 3: I'm not like, I don't have any any baggage at all,
Speaker 3: So like, I'm good, but I'm definitely not looking for
Speaker 3: it and I'm content being single. But you know, if
Speaker 3: a dream girl were to walk in, I'm content being
Speaker 3: in a relationship.
Speaker 4: Aaron, thank you so much for coming in. It has
Speaker 4: been an absolute pleasure. Before we go, I have to say,
Speaker 4: his eyebrows are as good as.
Speaker 3: Her on TV.
Speaker 1: Their on fleek, I look amazing. I've been admiring them
Speaker 1: this whole time.
Speaker 3: Thank you, guys, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: That's right, Thanks you coming in, mate.
Speaker 3: It's fun. Yeah, it's been amazing.
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, until next time.
Speaker 3: Bye bye see