Speaker 1: Let's talk breaking news that's just come through this morning
Speaker 1: off the back of the Northland shopping Center going into
Speaker 1: lockdown because of the.
Speaker 2: Machete attack yesterday. Terrible scene just center.
Speaker 1: Allen, the Premier has spoken this morning finally announcing when
Speaker 1: we're going to be taking these machetes off the shelves.
Speaker 3: We announced in March that we would be moving quickly
Speaker 3: and safely to bring about Australia's first machete ban. This
Speaker 3: comes also off the work that has been done to
Speaker 3: provide Victoria Police with expanded knife search powers, which has
Speaker 3: seen a record number of these dangerous weapons being seized
Speaker 3: and taken off the streets by Victoria Police.
Speaker 2: Quick enough.
Speaker 4: Well, to be fair, it's Australia's first ban, likes in,
Speaker 4: it's a first juristic, first jurisdiction in Australia.
Speaker 2: To I get that, But to be so happy it
Speaker 2: should be nationwide.
Speaker 4: Why Victoria's first date? Well that's yeah, Well I don't know,
Speaker 4: but what the point she was making was that Victoria's
Speaker 4: a first date in Australia.
Speaker 2: Get that?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 6: Do I mean you need to put ourselves on the
Speaker 6: back for that?
Speaker 1: No, exactly right. I think all the states should be
Speaker 1: following suit. I think it should be something we should
Speaker 1: have done a long time ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah. What I would say is it's from Wednesday, So
Speaker 4: from Wednesday this week, it'll be illegal to sell machetes
Speaker 4: in store.
Speaker 2: Oh great, we'll give them notes to run out and
Speaker 2: buy them.
Speaker 6: Is it currently legal to sell them?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, fishing stores don't even go into it. You know,
Speaker 2: But like it's just.
Speaker 6: And what happens Are they changed? They making them rule
Speaker 6: stricter for people who are caught with them, do we know?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the knife crime wars have been have been tightened apparently.
Speaker 1: The thing it annoys me is they say they've been
Speaker 1: working on it and they obviously fast tracked it on
Speaker 1: the weekend because of what went down at the north
Speaker 1: Land shopping Center. It's like, why do we have to
Speaker 1: wait for these things to happen for us to then
Speaker 1: go all right, quick, let's do it three days.
Speaker 6: Well, look, hopefully this is a positive step.
Speaker 1: Forward because it was crazy scenes. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys saw ity the footage on the news last night.
Speaker 1: Peena is one of our listeners.
Speaker 2: She was there good.
Speaker 6: Morning, morning morning at Norland.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so throwing a very scary experience. So it was
Speaker 5: about two thirty in the afternoon and I was going
Speaker 5: into Northland via the came Out entrance, and as I
Speaker 5: was going in, there were like big crowds of people
Speaker 5: at the entrance, and as I was going, you know,
Speaker 5: further into the shopping center, there was more people. I thought,
Speaker 5: what's going on? I thought, either it's in a promotion
Speaker 5: like those La La Lulu dolls or London Yeah, or
Speaker 5: maybe an influenza, or like we've just got this new
Speaker 5: Kobat place that's bringing out tens of thousands of people
Speaker 5: in Preston. I've gone, what's going on? Anyway, as I
Speaker 5: got further into the shopping center, I start seeing people running,
Speaker 5: running from the main part of Northland, running out to
Speaker 5: the entrance.
Speaker 7: What's going on?
Speaker 5: I said, what's happening to What's happened? They go knife
Speaker 5: nice stabbing, They're stabbing everyone there. I got shit the
Speaker 5: panic and you just look on people's faces and I
Speaker 5: just turned around bolted And as I was getting to
Speaker 5: the car, you know, you see families. There's a family
Speaker 5: holding their child in their arms, running with the fram
Speaker 5: the sheer panics. They don't know what's going on, but
Speaker 5: you know you hear this. So got in my car,
Speaker 5: locked myself in, but I couldn't get out because it's
Speaker 5: an undercover car park. Wood Street was blocked with all
Speaker 5: the other cars from the back of Northland trying to
Speaker 5: get out. So I was trapped in my car.
Speaker 2: Imagine the chaos, just.
Speaker 5: Like two hours two. I didn't get out until four thirty.
Speaker 5: Could not get out. There was just cars all around me.
Speaker 7: Was there coming in Peanut So? Was there any alarms
Speaker 7: or sirens.
Speaker 6: Telling you to stay where you are?
Speaker 5: No? So, just before the police arrived, we heard people
Speaker 5: like there was like an overspeaker announcement, you know, please,
Speaker 5: you know, calmly, no, not even evacuate, please calmly leave
Speaker 5: the shopping center and everything. Then I see the police come.
Speaker 5: Then I saw the SWAT team come, you know, all
Speaker 5: get it up and.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what did you feel vulnerable waiting in
Speaker 4: your car?
Speaker 5: Oh gosh it. Yeah. I got in my car. I
Speaker 5: locked myself in and I just cried. I cried tears.
Speaker 5: I rang my husband, I rang my fame and go
Speaker 5: and comes so scared. I don't know what's happening. And
Speaker 5: I was only like two cars parked away from that entrance,
Speaker 5: so who knows. I mean, at one point that's running
Speaker 5: in saying stop, please, stop please, and they're going up
Speaker 5: to the above it and I didn't know what's happening
Speaker 5: on my car.
Speaker 4: It's still so emotional today, it's really talking.
Speaker 5: About it, but just to look on people's faces and
Speaker 5: just the chaos.
Speaker 2: I think it's knowledge is power and not knowing what's
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 7: That's the scary, especially because we've seen things like this
Speaker 7: happen before.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's where my mind instantly went to
Speaker 1: was the Machelle attack in Sydney.
Speaker 7: Everybody would think that and you just don't know how
Speaker 7: bad it is, and it's it's it's overwhelming and it's
Speaker 7: scary to be in that situation. And Peter, I'm so
Speaker 7: sorry you were caught up in it. There were hundreds
Speaker 7: of people caught up in this over the weekend in
Speaker 7: Melbourne and it seems we never want to see.
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for jumping on this morning, mate, take.
Speaker 5: Take care of it yourself, I will think.
Speaker 6: Thanks Peena.
Speaker 1: I feel for everyone who witnessed that yesterday because that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff stays with you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's scary.
Speaker 1: We're having a debate off the air earlier about security
Speaker 1: guards in shopping centers and whether they should be armed
Speaker 1: at least with like pepper spray or tasers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're strongly against a clip.
Speaker 4: Absolutely not, you can't have it. But then we're cute, Well,
Speaker 4: because you can't have a private security guard armed taking
Speaker 4: matters making that judgment, call that a police or or
Speaker 4: a pso you know a sworn member should be making
Speaker 4: you can't have a private security guard.
Speaker 1: Well, then why don't we look at the way we
Speaker 1: choose our security guards and the courses they.
Speaker 2: Go through shopping center make it more strict that So
Speaker 2: then otherwise what's the point.
Speaker 4: The only point, The only way to do it is
Speaker 4: to have sworn member as PSOs or police officers, public
Speaker 4: safety safety officer and they're sworn members.
Speaker 2: Well, then let's make it that shopping centers now have
Speaker 2: to have.
Speaker 4: But you're not like, jeez, it's a slippery slate, letting, letting,
Speaker 4: but letting a security officer, a security security guard make
Speaker 4: that on the spot call.
Speaker 1: I get frustrated this argument because what's the point in
Speaker 1: them being there at the moment? Then why are they're there?
Speaker 2: Well, they're they're patrolling, and what are they going to do.
Speaker 2: They can't do anything.
Speaker 4: I just don't want security guards armed with.
Speaker 7: I agree and those weapons shouldn't be handed out willy nilly.
Speaker 7: But perhaps we need to step up the security in
Speaker 7: terms of PSOs in shopping centers and these these high
Speaker 7: traffic areas.
Speaker 2: Well from Wednesday.
Speaker 1: It was just announce in the last ten minutes machetes
Speaker 1: will be illegal to buy from Wednesday here in Victoria
Speaker 1: and hopefully the rest of the country follows.
Speaker 7: Suits wake feeling good, follow them on the socials.
Speaker 6: Yeah,