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Speaker 1: Let's talk breaking news that's just come through this morning

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Speaker 1: off the back of the Northland shopping Center going into

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Speaker 1: lockdown because of the.

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Speaker 2: Machete attack yesterday. Terrible scene just center.

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Speaker 1: Allen, the Premier has spoken this morning finally announcing when

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Speaker 1: we're going to be taking these machetes off the shelves.

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Speaker 3: We announced in March that we would be moving quickly

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Speaker 3: and safely to bring about Australia's first machete ban. This

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Speaker 3: comes also off the work that has been done to

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Speaker 3: provide Victoria Police with expanded knife search powers, which has

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Speaker 3: seen a record number of these dangerous weapons being seized

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Speaker 3: and taken off the streets by Victoria Police.

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Speaker 2: Quick enough.

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Speaker 4: Well, to be fair, it's Australia's first ban, likes in,

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Speaker 4: it's a first juristic, first jurisdiction in Australia.

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Speaker 2: To I get that, But to be so happy it

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Speaker 2: should be nationwide.

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Speaker 4: Why Victoria's first date? Well that's yeah, Well I don't know,

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Speaker 4: but what the point she was making was that Victoria's

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Speaker 4: a first date in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Get that?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 6: Do I mean you need to put ourselves on the

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Speaker 6: back for that?

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Speaker 1: No, exactly right. I think all the states should be

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Speaker 1: following suit. I think it should be something we should

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Speaker 1: have done a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. What I would say is it's from Wednesday, So

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Speaker 4: from Wednesday this week, it'll be illegal to sell machetes

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Speaker 4: in store.

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Speaker 2: Oh great, we'll give them notes to run out and

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Speaker 2: buy them.

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Speaker 6: Is it currently legal to sell them?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fishing stores don't even go into it. You know,

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Speaker 2: But like it's just.

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Speaker 6: And what happens Are they changed? They making them rule

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Speaker 6: stricter for people who are caught with them, do we know?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the knife crime wars have been have been tightened apparently.

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Speaker 1: The thing it annoys me is they say they've been

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Speaker 1: working on it and they obviously fast tracked it on

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Speaker 1: the weekend because of what went down at the north

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Speaker 1: Land shopping Center. It's like, why do we have to

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Speaker 1: wait for these things to happen for us to then

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Speaker 1: go all right, quick, let's do it three days.

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Speaker 6: Well, look, hopefully this is a positive step.

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Speaker 1: Forward because it was crazy scenes. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys saw ity the footage on the news last night.

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Speaker 1: Peena is one of our listeners.

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Speaker 2: She was there good.

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Speaker 6: Morning, morning morning at Norland.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so throwing a very scary experience. So it was

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Speaker 5: about two thirty in the afternoon and I was going

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Speaker 5: into Northland via the came Out entrance, and as I

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Speaker 5: was going in, there were like big crowds of people

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Speaker 5: at the entrance, and as I was going, you know,

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Speaker 5: further into the shopping center, there was more people. I thought,

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Speaker 5: what's going on? I thought, either it's in a promotion

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Speaker 5: like those La La Lulu dolls or London Yeah, or

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Speaker 5: maybe an influenza, or like we've just got this new

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Speaker 5: Kobat place that's bringing out tens of thousands of people

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Speaker 5: in Preston. I've gone, what's going on? Anyway, as I

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Speaker 5: got further into the shopping center, I start seeing people running,

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Speaker 5: running from the main part of Northland, running out to

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Speaker 5: the entrance.

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Speaker 7: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: I said, what's happening to What's happened? They go knife

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Speaker 5: nice stabbing, They're stabbing everyone there. I got shit the

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Speaker 5: panic and you just look on people's faces and I

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Speaker 5: just turned around bolted And as I was getting to

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Speaker 5: the car, you know, you see families. There's a family

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Speaker 5: holding their child in their arms, running with the fram

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Speaker 5: the sheer panics. They don't know what's going on, but

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Speaker 5: you know you hear this. So got in my car,

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Speaker 5: locked myself in, but I couldn't get out because it's

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Speaker 5: an undercover car park. Wood Street was blocked with all

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Speaker 5: the other cars from the back of Northland trying to

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Speaker 5: get out. So I was trapped in my car.

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Speaker 2: Imagine the chaos, just.

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Speaker 5: Like two hours two. I didn't get out until four thirty.

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Speaker 5: Could not get out. There was just cars all around me.

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Speaker 7: Was there coming in Peanut So? Was there any alarms

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Speaker 7: or sirens.

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Speaker 6: Telling you to stay where you are?

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Speaker 5: No? So, just before the police arrived, we heard people

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Speaker 5: like there was like an overspeaker announcement, you know, please,

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Speaker 5: you know, calmly, no, not even evacuate, please calmly leave

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Speaker 5: the shopping center and everything. Then I see the police come.

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Speaker 5: Then I saw the SWAT team come, you know, all

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Speaker 5: get it up and.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, what did you feel vulnerable waiting in

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Speaker 4: your car?

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Speaker 5: Oh gosh it. Yeah. I got in my car. I

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Speaker 5: locked myself in and I just cried. I cried tears.

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Speaker 5: I rang my husband, I rang my fame and go

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Speaker 5: and comes so scared. I don't know what's happening. And

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Speaker 5: I was only like two cars parked away from that entrance,

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Speaker 5: so who knows. I mean, at one point that's running

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Speaker 5: in saying stop, please, stop please, and they're going up

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Speaker 5: to the above it and I didn't know what's happening

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Speaker 5: on my car.

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Speaker 4: It's still so emotional today, it's really talking.

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Speaker 5: About it, but just to look on people's faces and

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Speaker 5: just the chaos.

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Speaker 2: I think it's knowledge is power and not knowing what's

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Speaker 2: going on.

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Speaker 7: That's the scary, especially because we've seen things like this

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Speaker 7: happen before.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's where my mind instantly went to

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Speaker 1: was the Machelle attack in Sydney.

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Speaker 7: Everybody would think that and you just don't know how

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Speaker 7: bad it is, and it's it's it's overwhelming and it's

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Speaker 7: scary to be in that situation. And Peter, I'm so

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Speaker 7: sorry you were caught up in it. There were hundreds

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Speaker 7: of people caught up in this over the weekend in

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Speaker 7: Melbourne and it seems we never want to see.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for jumping on this morning, mate, take.

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Speaker 5: Take care of it yourself, I will think.

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Speaker 6: Thanks Peena.

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Speaker 1: I feel for everyone who witnessed that yesterday because that

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Speaker 1: sort of stuff stays with you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's scary.

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Speaker 1: We're having a debate off the air earlier about security

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Speaker 1: guards in shopping centers and whether they should be armed

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Speaker 1: at least with like pepper spray or tasers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're strongly against a clip.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not, you can't have it. But then we're cute, Well,

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Speaker 4: because you can't have a private security guard armed taking

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Speaker 4: matters making that judgment, call that a police or or

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Speaker 4: a pso you know a sworn member should be making

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Speaker 4: you can't have a private security guard.

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Speaker 1: Well, then why don't we look at the way we

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Speaker 1: choose our security guards and the courses they.

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Speaker 2: Go through shopping center make it more strict that So

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Speaker 2: then otherwise what's the point.

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Speaker 4: The only point, The only way to do it is

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Speaker 4: to have sworn member as PSOs or police officers, public

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Speaker 4: safety safety officer and they're sworn members.

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Speaker 2: Well, then let's make it that shopping centers now have

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Speaker 2: to have.

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Speaker 4: But you're not like, jeez, it's a slippery slate, letting, letting,

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Speaker 4: but letting a security officer, a security security guard make

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Speaker 4: that on the spot call.

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Speaker 1: I get frustrated this argument because what's the point in

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Speaker 1: them being there at the moment? Then why are they're there?

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Speaker 2: Well, they're they're patrolling, and what are they going to do.

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Speaker 2: They can't do anything.

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Speaker 4: I just don't want security guards armed with.

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Speaker 7: I agree and those weapons shouldn't be handed out willy nilly.

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Speaker 7: But perhaps we need to step up the security in

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Speaker 7: terms of PSOs in shopping centers and these these high

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Speaker 7: traffic areas.

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Speaker 2: Well from Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: It was just announce in the last ten minutes machetes

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Speaker 1: will be illegal to buy from Wednesday here in Victoria

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Speaker 1: and hopefully the rest of the country follows.

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Speaker 7: Suits wake feeling good, follow them on the socials.

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Speaker 6: Yeah,