Speaker 1: This podcast is being recorded and produced on gadiical Land.
Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this
Speaker 2: country and elders past present.
Speaker 1: We extend our respect to any First Nations Aboriginal and
Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander people joining.
Speaker 2: Us today, always was, always will be Aboriginal Land.
Speaker 1: I'm Britney Saunders, and you've made your way onto our
Speaker 1: close friends list.
Speaker 2: So you don't put the juiciest goss on your main story.
Speaker 2: You keep it for your close friends.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what these episodes for. I'm just going
Speaker 1: to leave that in there. We have something spicy to
Speaker 1: read out today, Matt. I have received an apology.
Speaker 3: From who me was? Yeah, what did I say?
Speaker 1: I've received an apology and I thought this could open
Speaker 1: up a conversation about a few things. Okay, I'm going
Speaker 1: to read this out to you, Matt. It's from someone
Speaker 1: who listens to the pod and someone who follows me.
Speaker 1: I assume probably you too, Hi Britain, Matt. This might
Speaker 1: seem like a strange email. By the way, you can
Speaker 1: email us in case you didn't know. Yeah, always in
Speaker 1: the show notes, email us anything. Yeah, fucking please send
Speaker 1: us all your weird shit, we want to hear it.
Speaker 1: So this might seem like a strange email, but it's
Speaker 1: been on my mind for so long that I felt
Speaker 1: compelled to write to you. I don't expect a response here.
Speaker 1: We are fucking making a podcast about it, but I
Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure that brit sees this. About
Speaker 1: six years ago, I was following Brit on Instagram. She
Speaker 1: posted her picture of herself in a dress on a boat.
Speaker 1: I think I didn't like the dress at all, so
Speaker 1: I decided to message or comment, I can't remember exactly,
Speaker 1: to tell her how ugly I thought it was. Britt
Speaker 1: responded and clapped back at me rightfully so, and we
Speaker 1: ended up arguing back and forth for a while. The
Speaker 1: reason I'm emailing is because I haven't stopped thinking about
Speaker 1: it until this day. I am truly sorry, Brit. I
Speaker 1: want you to know how much I've grown and changed
Speaker 1: since then, and how bad I really feel about making
Speaker 1: that comment. I would never do something like that now,
Speaker 1: and I genuinely feel awful about it. You probably won't
Speaker 1: see this, but I just wanted to express my sincere apologies,
Speaker 1: best regards. I've read this, and the first thing I
Speaker 1: want to say is I feel bad that she has
Speaker 1: felt bad about this for all this time, because I
Speaker 1: don't remember this at all, like genuinely, but in saying that,
Speaker 1: I've obviously had an U two Matt, Like, We've had
Speaker 1: so many people say so much shit to us over
Speaker 1: the years, and I've clapped back at so many people
Speaker 1: in comments and dms and said fuck off and fuck
Speaker 1: you blah blah blah, to the point where like I
Speaker 1: don't specifically remember each individual interaction, especially this is like
Speaker 1: six years ago. But either way, I think this is
Speaker 1: just such a nice display of growth from someone, especially
Speaker 1: if they've had that on their mind for so long
Speaker 1: that she's reached out to say she's sorry, and I
Speaker 1: absolutely forgive you. To me, it was probably I don't
Speaker 1: know how our conversation went, but it was probably just
Speaker 1: funny to me, like entertaining being trolled, which is what
Speaker 1: I do every now and then. I don't get hate
Speaker 1: so much these days, but back then six years ago,
Speaker 1: I absolutely did. But please know, no hard feelings whatsoever,
Speaker 1: and you can absolutely stop feeling bad about the comments
Speaker 1: that you made about my dress. I probably just thought
Speaker 1: it was absolutely hilarious and was egging you on in
Speaker 1: my responses, But I just thought that was really nice.
Speaker 1: Have you ever said something to someone, Matt that's stuck
Speaker 1: with you forever?
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't really think about it off the top
Speaker 2: of my head, if I'm honest, But yes, I have
Speaker 2: those moments all the time where I just get flashbacks
Speaker 2: to a time that I've put my foot in it
Speaker 2: or said the wrong thing or.
Speaker 1: But I think the thing is and the good reminder
Speaker 1: with this email is I think we can get so
Speaker 1: fixated on the little things that we've said or done
Speaker 1: in the past, and maybe no one else remembers kind
Speaker 1: of thing, like it wasn't ever that big of a
Speaker 1: deal to the people on the other side.
Speaker 2: I think though, as I grow more and more frustrated
Speaker 2: and the uh, maybe this is why like the old
Speaker 2: YouTubers and like the people who have been around for
Speaker 2: so long seem so salty. Not us, But like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's some other people in this industry who have been
Speaker 2: around for a hot minute like us, who just complain
Speaker 2: about fucking everything, and just like everyone just gives off
Speaker 2: negative vibes, you know what I mean, Because I am
Speaker 2: And I don't know whether it's just because I'm getting
Speaker 2: older with age, as well.
Speaker 3: And I mean some of these.
Speaker 2: People are mums and have children and everything like that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, So like, get it, They've
Speaker 2: got a lot going on.
Speaker 3: But there's like this undertone I guess or like this.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just see people who I'm like, I'm like, babe,
Speaker 2: if it's not enjoyable, quit your job, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, God, do something else, do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 3: Like they just give off this energy that's.
Speaker 1: Like you clearly they're creator.
Speaker 2: They're a creator who has been around for as long
Speaker 2: as we have, and I mean at least four come
Speaker 2: to the top of my mind, like straight away, and
Speaker 2: I think like they clap back so quickly at people
Speaker 2: who come at them for whatever whatever, and then that
Speaker 2: I mean also though there are some people who like
Speaker 2: feed off that and like that drives their engagements so
Speaker 2: they complain about that sort of stuff. But anyway, the
Speaker 2: point is, like what I'm trying to say is as
Speaker 2: I get older and as I am on social media
Speaker 2: for longer and longer, the more I just want to
Speaker 2: go fucking ham and reply to people who do comment
Speaker 2: on my things. Like I think, like ten years ago,
Speaker 2: if someone left me a hate comment. I just like
Speaker 2: try and I think I had almost people please and
Speaker 2: like go back, and I'm so sorry you feel that way.
Speaker 2: And then you know, five years ago, i'd just block you.
Speaker 2: And now I'm at the point where like, if you
Speaker 2: want to leave a comment like that, I'm ready to
Speaker 2: come back at you. But the problem is is that
Speaker 2: social media does not work, Like the apps don't work
Speaker 2: in our favor because people will write the most horrific
Speaker 2: thing to me and I'll report it and Instagram or
Speaker 2: TikTok will go we didn't have a problem with this.
Speaker 2: This meets all our community guidelines, and I go, this
Speaker 2: person has called me a fat faggot and told me
Speaker 2: to kill myself.
Speaker 3: So like, what's going on? Where are your community eye mines?
Speaker 2: But if I write back and say fuck you, strike
Speaker 2: on your account, baby, you can't be doing that.
Speaker 3: That goes against our community guideline. Yeah, and so I
Speaker 3: don't get.
Speaker 1: The point of like the apps having community guidelines and
Speaker 1: the feature of being able to report ship because nothing
Speaker 1: ever gets taken down.
Speaker 2: No, And I have seen I'm such a reporter when
Speaker 2: I see people not disclosing paid partnerships raport because that
Speaker 2: pisses me off because I've always done it properly and
Speaker 2: I and you have to.
Speaker 3: You're meant to.
Speaker 2: So if I'm doing the right thing and you're not,
Speaker 2: I'm always reporting not using pad partnership tag, and I
Speaker 2: encourage you to report influencers who are no.
Speaker 1: When I've seen an influencer doing as clearly sponsored story
Speaker 1: or a post and there's nowhere that claims it, like,
Speaker 1: I want to just comment, Like I don't because I
Speaker 1: don't want to look like a fucking bully, but I
Speaker 1: want to comment and say this is an ad. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: put paid partnership brand thing on it.
Speaker 3: It's not hard.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows.
Speaker 3: Everyone knows. Not dumb. No, it is a thing.
Speaker 1: I think they think that people are dumb.
Speaker 2: People are dumb, and our audiences are so much smarter
Speaker 2: than like people give them credit for. I do a
Speaker 2: lot of like brand panels, which I don't really like
Speaker 2: put on social media because they're kind of boring. But
Speaker 2: a lot of the time I get paid to go
Speaker 2: and talk in front of like a marketing conference or
Speaker 2: like an industry sort of thing, and I'll go and
Speaker 2: like talk and people can ask questions and we basically
Speaker 2: I sit on stage and I just tell them how
Speaker 2: to work with influencers and creators because I've been doing
Speaker 2: it for so long, and like one of the things
Speaker 2: that I say to them is like, brands need to
Speaker 2: realize that our audiences are so much smaller smarter than
Speaker 2: you give them credit for. Like they're switched on. And
Speaker 2: it's really strange because as I was touring around the country,
Speaker 2: I was getting a lot of gifts from a lot
Speaker 2: of people who was obviously that's so lovely, But what
Speaker 2: was blowing my mind is the amount of attention to
Speaker 2: detail and things that people bring up or get me
Speaker 2: gifts around, found certain things that I have said or
Speaker 2: you know, like I mean, there were just a lot
Speaker 2: of things that people gave me that I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god. And it's so funny because they come
Speaker 2: up to me and they go, oh my god.
Speaker 3: The funniest thing is when you said this on.
Speaker 2: The podcast and I go, I said that I can't remember,
Speaker 2: but you know what attention, You're probably right, And so
Speaker 2: people like pay attention, Like some of my followers know
Speaker 2: me better than like some of my friends because they
Speaker 2: pay so much attention that maybe some of my friends don't,
Speaker 2: don't you know, because my friends aren't watching my stories. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I but I also don't repeat myself.
Speaker 1: I would never expect my friends to watch anything that
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is like, if I jump on
Speaker 2: my stories and say a little something, I'm probably not
Speaker 2: then going to go to one of my friends who
Speaker 2: isn't watching my stories and say that. So the point
Speaker 2: that I'm trying to get across is that, like, the
Speaker 2: people who follow me probably know a lot more or
Speaker 2: a lot of different stuff to what some of the
Speaker 2: closest people in my life no, which is the weirdest thing,
Speaker 2: right because I'm telling them two different things. But it's
Speaker 2: not intentional. But anyway, that's just I forget where I
Speaker 2: was going with that. The point is I wish I
Speaker 2: could clap back. And you have been recently, though, haven't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, well, I mean I've always told people to
Speaker 1: fuck off, but aren't you.
Speaker 3: Scared that your account's going to get banned? That's the
Speaker 3: only thing that stops me.
Speaker 1: I never think that maybe I should to start Someone
Speaker 1: called me the someone the other day called me anti feminist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I did a funny video where I went to
Speaker 1: my store and changed a light bulb, and she's like,
Speaker 1: this video is insinuating that your staff in the video
Speaker 1: aren't able to change a light bulb. And I'm what
Speaker 1: the irony of it is is that I'm also a female. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I changed light bulb. But anyway, I just wrote
Speaker 1: back to that person, I said, you have no sense
Speaker 1: of humor, and fuck off. I have a company that
Speaker 1: employees over sixty women and one male.
Speaker 3: I know that was the biggest fucking about back.
Speaker 1: We have a sixty female employees and one fucking male.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: And you want to call me an anti feminist? What
Speaker 1: about the companies that employee only men.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck off.
Speaker 1: But it was for a fake account. So I just
Speaker 1: write fuck off. But can we actually get in trouble
Speaker 1: for writing fuck off?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've always written.
Speaker 2: I remember one time, like someone came at me, so
Speaker 2: I went back and then I was the one that
Speaker 2: got in trouble off Instagram. This is years ago, so
Speaker 2: it's triggered me. And I'm like, because I'd love to
Speaker 2: give you a piece of my mind, sweetie, I always
Speaker 2: just say fuck off, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I literally write fuck off sea word. I don't say
Speaker 1: that on the pot. But I write in a.
Speaker 2: Comment, did you know I don't say the sea word
Speaker 2: online or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I think that's a little bit much. I just say
Speaker 3: it in my personal life.
Speaker 1: Same here.
Speaker 3: There's there's many things that I'll describe as see me too,
Speaker 3: see a. You know what I mean? That is cef. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I do drop the sea word once in my live shows,
Speaker 2: and it always catches the audience off guard, and I
Speaker 2: love it because I never say it and they're not
Speaker 2: expecting it.
Speaker 1: It's probably such a crack up moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think I said it at your show, though,
Speaker 2: because my dad was in the audience and I can't
Speaker 2: say the sea word in front of me.
Speaker 1: Did your dad say the sea words? Oh?
Speaker 3: God, doesn't he o?
Speaker 1: God, No, No, dad.
Speaker 3: Doesn't say anything like that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. My parents stay, don't you step month that.
Speaker 2: They're not They're not they're not. They're not swearers at all.
Speaker 2: So growing up like it was wash your mouth out
Speaker 2: with sop if you swore, which my sister was the
Speaker 2: one who swore when we were growing out.
Speaker 3: But then I don't know, I just got I just
Speaker 3: got an.
Speaker 2: Adult hold and I was like, oh it feels good
Speaker 2: to say fuck, doesn't it Just it just feels.
Speaker 3: Good to say fuck.
Speaker 2: Fuck.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, it is what it is, and I think
Speaker 2: it's who you hang around with as well, because I
Speaker 2: was hanging out with all the Bogans on the Central
Speaker 2: Coast and we're all just I mean, oh, some of
Speaker 2: the friends I had, I don't know how I survived
Speaker 2: a friendship with them. I can't even believe I was
Speaker 2: friends with them, because, like, I don't want to use
Speaker 2: the word dangerous, but like some of them were dangerous
Speaker 2: too when I.
Speaker 1: Was eighteen, Like I was hanging out with a bunch
Speaker 1: of people.
Speaker 3: That were bad influencers.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And now you're still hanging with
Speaker 2: a bad influencer me.
Speaker 1: You Well, what do you have to say to wrap
Speaker 1: this up? About the girl that sent the email apology?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's nice for her. I think it's good.
Speaker 2: I have said it once and I'll say it again
Speaker 2: that I think people can grow and change, and we
Speaker 2: should be growing and changing. Remember how everyone used to
Speaker 2: comment on your fucking photos and stuff, and like you've changed.
Speaker 1: I know that used to be like a hate comment
Speaker 1: that I would get, like, yeah, what the fuck? You
Speaker 1: want me to stay the same. Yeah, we all fucking change.
Speaker 2: And if you're not changing, that's actually more embarrassing in
Speaker 2: my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I was still acting like a fucking I mean,
Speaker 1: I still, like I do, act like a seventeen year
Speaker 1: old sometimes.
Speaker 3: Oh in my mind, I'm twenty three the rest of
Speaker 3: my life. Like, sorry, it's good to change, but yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Is good to change, and I think that growth is.
Speaker 2: This is why I've said I can never like cancel
Speaker 2: someone for something that they did ten fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: That's never going to slide for me. I'm like, I'll
Speaker 2: cancel you for your behavior today or yesterday or you
Speaker 2: know when you should have known better. But like, ten
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, come on, we were all doing stuff
Speaker 2: that was not right. I mean, some of us weren't
Speaker 2: doing really really intense things. I know I'm safe from
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff because I never did a lot
Speaker 2: of that sort of stuff. But you know, there are
Speaker 2: some things that I did ten fifteen years ago that'd
Speaker 2: probably get me canceled.
Speaker 3: And thank god.
Speaker 2: Remember in the other episode, you were saying, how good
Speaker 2: is it that everyone's got their cameras out filming everything
Speaker 2: that happens well, maybe sometimes I'm glad there weren't cameras
Speaker 2: back when I was in high school and things like that,
Speaker 2: because God, having to watch that back and just even
Speaker 2: the things like my haircut at the time in year
Speaker 2: seven was fucking rogue. Like, I don't want to look
Speaker 2: back on that sort of stuff. But I think it's
Speaker 2: nice of her to have written that to you.
Speaker 1: You are completely forgiven if you're listening to this episode.
Speaker 3: I just think it's funny that you literally haven't given
Speaker 3: that a second thought.
Speaker 1: No, And that's the thing. I think we say things
Speaker 1: in life. We can get caught up on them and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, fuck, like you worry about something like that.
Speaker 1: Whereas to me, girl, that was just another stupid interaction
Speaker 1: on Instagram that I mean, don't have so often now.
Speaker 1: I did the other day with that person that call
Speaker 1: me anti feminist. But it's just another interaction on social
Speaker 1: media with maybe someone that I thought was a bit silly.
Speaker 1: It's so fine, and I hope you can sleep better
Speaker 1: now and you don't have to think about it ever again,
Speaker 1: given you're forgiven.
Speaker 2: Well as long as you've rated us five stars and yeah,
Speaker 2: you know I don't all your due diligence over here.
Speaker 1: Then you're forgiven.
Speaker 3: Then you're forgiven.
Speaker 2: You'll have to comment on every photo of Brittany's for
Speaker 2: the rest of her life. Make sure you like share
Speaker 2: your story by at least ten thousand dollars worth of
Speaker 2: fake clothing a year.
Speaker 1: Then you'll be forgiven.
Speaker 3: Then you'll be forgiven.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, anyway, I think it's time for us
Speaker 2: to wrap this shit up and go back to our fabulous,
Speaker 2: fabulous Friday.
Speaker 3: What have you got on for the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: Just driving back to Newie as usual?
Speaker 3: You know, you know I want to cample with you.
Speaker 1: I know that would be so much more fun, I
Speaker 1: reckon by the time we got here, we'd be like
Speaker 1: hyped even more.
Speaker 2: No, Also, you still haven't brought the fatemobile down, so
Speaker 2: what can can you just give us a quick one
Speaker 2: minute update on the fate Ma bill because you were like, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna have it. We're gonna do all these fabulous things.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be a regular free product.
Speaker 1: Fucking busy. It's at the warehouse, it lives there, but
Speaker 1: we are organizing soon one Saturday, AJ and I want
Speaker 1: to do like a Saturday morning local delivery so anyone
Speaker 1: that ordered the night before and they live like within
Speaker 1: a certain like proximity in Newcastle, and we're gonna make
Speaker 1: a piece of content out of it. We're gonna like
Speaker 1: take the fatemobile around hand, deliver things to people's doors,
Speaker 1: maybe give out some like goodies or little bun just
Speaker 1: the flowers or something nice. I thought, that's a little
Speaker 1: cute thing that we can do. But in business, we
Speaker 1: just have all these ideas and fucking not enough time
Speaker 1: in the day to get them done. Even though we're
Speaker 1: doing a lot of things already. It's just never ending.
Speaker 3: It's stunning. Yeah, there's a little Fat and Bill update.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I am gonna love you and leave
Speaker 3: you closing words? Please, what do you want to say?
Speaker 1: See you next week, see you next Tuesday, see you next.
Speaker 3: Tuesday, next Tuesday.
Speaker 1: We didn't start saying that at the end of every
Speaker 1: close friend. See you next Tuesday, your bunch, see you
Speaker 1: next Tuesday.