Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome the separate bathrooms. We would like to
Speaker 1: acknowledge the Gadigle people of the Eora Nation, the traditional
Speaker 1: custodians of this land, and pay our respects to the
Speaker 1: elders both past and present. My nas Cam Daddo, I'm
Speaker 1: Ali Dado. We we're dealing with change today. We've arrived
Speaker 1: here in the studio and our guests have been given
Speaker 1: the wrong information or we've been given the wrong information.
Speaker 2: It's been a glitch. We'll just put it. We'll just
Speaker 2: put it that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know the one we had with IBM
Speaker 1: ten days ago.
Speaker 2: Microsoft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can see. I'm
Speaker 1: an Apple person. It's that other thing. The other platform
Speaker 1: fell down.
Speaker 2: Just the biggest it blackout in the world, that one.
Speaker 1: That one, that one, that one. So we're kind of
Speaker 1: still in that glitch. Is it a mercury retrograde?
Speaker 2: Well, there was a big, big full moon. I don't
Speaker 2: have that had anything to do with it. I don't
Speaker 2: know if there was any retrograde. I didn't look into that.
Speaker 2: Probably someone's looked into it. In fact, I'm sure thousands
Speaker 2: and millions of astrologers have looked into that.
Speaker 1: It would make sense, wouldn't it? With all that's happening.
Speaker 2: We've got Olympics happening. Yes, we've got.
Speaker 1: The footy both codes nrl AFL getting to the pointy end.
Speaker 1: People fans are getting stressed. Other fans are getting as cited.
Speaker 2: Sarondado is getting really stressed. We've got America and the
Speaker 2: politics over there. Wow, that's a trip.
Speaker 1: There's a lot happening in this world.
Speaker 2: Who would have as people keep saying that if you
Speaker 2: had written that in a movie, that whole line of
Speaker 2: politics in America, people would be like that, would never
Speaker 2: have it, I know, but it's happening.
Speaker 1: We won't go down that road too much. We may
Speaker 1: get there during this chat.
Speaker 2: But we are a relationship podcast.
Speaker 1: We are, and our and our family has grown. Would
Speaker 1: you say we have.
Speaker 2: A relationship that we're going to explore it?
Speaker 1: Yes, because so we've we've been at this for I'd
Speaker 1: say three years.
Speaker 2: I think it's more. We started in twenty nineteen, did
Speaker 2: we Yeah, see.
Speaker 1: How time flies. We've had several producers on our show,
Speaker 1: and our most recent producer, Adair has moved back to
Speaker 1: Tazzy to take care of her family and things. And
Speaker 1: we have a new member of our family. Xander's come
Speaker 1: in and he's our new producer. Hi, Xander, Hello, another boy.
Speaker 3: Is my debut in your bathroom?
Speaker 2: This is very Excitingly, we've never done this. As Cam said,
Speaker 2: we're pulling back the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Kurt, Yeah, the curtain.
Speaker 3: It's a lovely sight. Let me tell you Xander's in
Speaker 3: the barroom.
Speaker 1: So listener, you know it's not just us, It's not
Speaker 1: just Allie and I. We have a producer who helps
Speaker 1: us out, makes the calls, gets our guests organized. Adair
Speaker 1: has been doing it sadly, we said Ofir to her.
Speaker 1: Last week Xander's joined us, we thought, why not, Let's
Speaker 1: get to know Xander well.
Speaker 2: Xander also said, I'm an open book and I've had
Speaker 2: a rather interesting life. Now that picked own interest.
Speaker 1: Especially yours.
Speaker 3: Your eyebrow cocked, I'd like to think, so anyway you
Speaker 3: might start asking questions.
Speaker 2: Ask some questions, Xander.
Speaker 3: That's happening.
Speaker 1: So Xander, just first of all, what what does a
Speaker 1: producer do? What do you do for this?
Speaker 3: It's a very good question because people ask me that
Speaker 3: all the time, and I struggle to answer it. But
Speaker 3: I do do a lot. I swear I do do
Speaker 3: a lot. So it's a lot of guestbooking, it's a
Speaker 3: lot of editing, it's a lot of studio setups. You know,
Speaker 3: we liaise with like the commercial and advertising team, so
Speaker 3: a lot of the ads that you hear on the
Speaker 3: podcast are actually scripted by the producers here, right, And
Speaker 3: so it's a whole mixed bag of different jobs that
Speaker 3: people could actually specialize in and make a career out of,
Speaker 3: but we just decided to do all of them.
Speaker 2: So did you always want to be in radio?
Speaker 3: No? So I wanted to be a dance teacher, Okay,
Speaker 3: then that changed to professional dancer, and I just kind.
Speaker 1: Of doesn't dancing come before you teach? You wanted to
Speaker 1: be a teacher, before you actually went to.
Speaker 3: UNI for two years to become like a high school
Speaker 3: dance teacher. Realized I hated it, and then I was like,
Speaker 3: full steam ahead, want.
Speaker 1: To go professional a dancer?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And then what kind of dancing?
Speaker 3: Irish dancing?
Speaker 2: See now you have to talk about this because a
Speaker 2: lot of people look at Irish dancing and just go
Speaker 2: what the Yeah? I personally love it because I love
Speaker 2: anything that's Irish. But how like, where did a kid
Speaker 2: decide to go.
Speaker 3: I like that dancing.
Speaker 2: That's the dancing I'm going to learn.
Speaker 3: Well, it was the nineties, so Irish dancing was all
Speaker 3: the craze. River dance, of course, Riverdance out ninety three?
Speaker 2: Did you go see river Dance?
Speaker 3: So I staw it on TV. My mom's best friend
Speaker 3: is Irish, so we flew over to visit when I
Speaker 3: was about six and I saw Revenents on TV and
Speaker 3: I wouldn't stop talking about it for months and months.
Speaker 3: Mom was like, oh God, we just got to put
Speaker 3: him in lessons, I think yep. So came back to Sydney.
Speaker 3: Put me in lessons like a Billy Elliott literally though
Speaker 3: literally yeah, very cool. Yeah, yeah, put me. I did
Speaker 3: it competitively for about fifteen years. Yeah. Did the World Championships?
Speaker 3: Did the North American Championships? Yeah? Irish?
Speaker 1: At what age were you when you're doing that?
Speaker 3: So the World's I did for the first time. I
Speaker 3: think I was nineteen, and then the North Americans around
Speaker 3: the same age as well. I competed state nationally in
Speaker 3: Australia since I was seven.
Speaker 2: Now tell us why what is the meaning of the
Speaker 2: hands beside the body? And why you're not allowed to
Speaker 2: do anything with your arms whatsoever. Is it just to
Speaker 2: focus on the feet.
Speaker 3: Yes, it really comes from the history of Irish occupation
Speaker 3: because England obviously used to control you know, island, and
Speaker 3: so a lot of the time they were kind of
Speaker 3: essentially outlawed from having fun. So what they would do
Speaker 3: is they would put their arms by their side, and
Speaker 3: so people in the window they'd be dancing, but you
Speaker 3: couldn't actually tell that dancing.
Speaker 2: No, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Is that really it?
Speaker 3: I mean I think so, it's a great story.
Speaker 1: Anyway, what an excellent I I'm not dancing.
Speaker 3: Nothing to see here.
Speaker 2: Before, because you know, I was thinking of like like
Speaker 2: barman behind a bar and like they're they're sort of
Speaker 2: like dancing, you know, they can only see the top
Speaker 2: half their feet are doing this.
Speaker 1: It actually reminds me of our friends who told us
Speaker 1: that their son was was just notoriously addicted to his
Speaker 1: phone and they're saying, you can't use your phone, and
Speaker 1: he's having a conversation with them across the kitchen bench
Speaker 1: and they're sitting on one side and he's on the
Speaker 1: other side, and he was actually texting a friends whilst
Speaker 1: they were saying get off your phone or you know,
Speaker 1: we don't like it, goes I'm not even on the phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the phone was under the counter and he was
Speaker 1: not looking and texting his friends going oh my god,
Speaker 1: my mum and dad are on me.
Speaker 3: They this is the gen Z version of Irish occupation.
Speaker 2: Clearly, that is amazing.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So but when you wanted to be a high school teacher,
Speaker 2: you didn't want to teach Irish dancing to high school kids,
Speaker 2: did you?
Speaker 3: Or I know? So I obviously started the Irish when
Speaker 3: I was quite young. Yeah, and when I got into
Speaker 3: my mid teens, I moved into other styles as well.
Speaker 3: So I mean I kind of really didn't think it through,
Speaker 3: to be honest, Like I just kind of went to
Speaker 3: UNI because I was just told that's what you got
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 3: And then a year and a half and I was like,
Speaker 3: I hate this. I didn't want to go teach high
Speaker 3: school kids. They're awful, and so I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. And I always said
Speaker 3: that I'd go and like I'd make my own Irish
Speaker 3: school and teach people Irish dancing. But after I toured,
Speaker 3: I was done. I didn't want to touch it. I
Speaker 3: didn't want to teach. I just kind of moved on
Speaker 3: from it, and I, you know, that's what kind of
Speaker 3: when I fell into radio after that.
Speaker 1: So okay, so you moved into radio. How long have
Speaker 1: you been doing this for? About?
Speaker 3: This will be my fifth year, the fifth or fourth year?
Speaker 1: Okay? And what do you like about radio?
Speaker 3: Similar to the touring? It's different every day, Yeah, something
Speaker 3: new that happens every day. You know. I produced three podcasts.
Speaker 2: Here with Nova, which are the ones you produce.
Speaker 3: Obviously the amazing Separate Bathrooms. I produced Big Business with
Speaker 3: Britney Saunders and also Skin Influence with Jamie Joe and
Speaker 3: Jason mssion.
Speaker 2: Fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so like the beauty of doing it is that
Speaker 3: every episode is different, every guest is different, every day
Speaker 3: is different, Like it's never it's not mundane. I in Covid,
Speaker 3: I actually worked for Sanelink and I was doing the
Speaker 3: job seeker claims for people because I had no other work.
Speaker 3: And after a few months, I was like, Oh, I
Speaker 3: can't do this anymore. This is just too the same,
Speaker 3: too rigid, not creative enough for me. And I guess
Speaker 3: because I was so creative in the dance side, and
Speaker 3: the dance world now being a producer and it just
Speaker 3: kind of feels that void a little bit as well.
Speaker 1: So what do you see the differences between radio and podcasting?
Speaker 1: And do you think podcastings are fad because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of podcasts out there, you know, it's like everyone's
Speaker 1: got a podcast, So there's that joke. So is it
Speaker 1: a long term thing do you think? Or is it
Speaker 1: just something that we do right now? And what is
Speaker 1: the appeal? According to you.
Speaker 3: Radio is stressful. Radio is really stressful. I've done breakfast radio,
Speaker 3: I've done drive radio, and from the producer standpoint, definitely,
Speaker 3: from the producer standpoint, I think that actually producers don't
Speaker 3: get enough credit, like very hard working. Yeah, and you
Speaker 3: know I kind of thrive. You thrive off the adrenaline
Speaker 3: because it is, especially breakfast radio, there's such an adrenaline
Speaker 3: there and when things work and when these magic moments happen,
Speaker 3: it really is like this you've taken a drug and
Speaker 3: you're like, yes, this is amazing. But it is stressful
Speaker 3: and there's you know, I moved over into podcasting because
Speaker 3: I was tired.
Speaker 1: Aren't we all?
Speaker 3: This is why I went to wake up at three
Speaker 3: am in the morning. You know, it's not ideal as
Speaker 3: a brutal Yeah, and but I think podcasting is here
Speaker 3: to stay.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The brilliant thing with podcasting is that it's an intimate
Speaker 3: relationship with the listener, and I don't think you have
Speaker 3: that in radio. It's a different kind of relationship with
Speaker 3: the hosts. With podcasting, you really feel like a lot
Speaker 3: of the time that you're in the car where you're
Speaker 3: jogging with a friend. You can also talk about stuff
Speaker 3: on podcasting you can't mention on radio. There's different laws
Speaker 3: there or standards of practice. So I love that about podcasting.
Speaker 3: I love kind of like nurturing that connection with the listener,
Speaker 3: where whereas in radio it operates very differently.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's bite sized pieces, isn't it? In radio?
Speaker 2: Work podcast that long form conversation.
Speaker 3: Get into the.
Speaker 2: Okay, So question, what have you got an idea for
Speaker 2: a podcast?
Speaker 3: I actually have my own. We're a hiatus at the moment. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what's your podcast. It's called Pivotal Pop and it's with
Speaker 3: me and two other pop music nerds. Yes, and we
Speaker 3: take an album that one of us loves, We break
Speaker 3: that album down, we discuss it, we talk about the
Speaker 3: songs that released from it. We play the little game
Speaker 3: and then we chat how actually we were done the rollout,
Speaker 3: so sometimes you have done the rollout of the album,
Speaker 3: so like the first single the second role, because sometimes
Speaker 3: albums are released and we're like, why would you release
Speaker 3: that song? Yeah, we get really into it. So it's
Speaker 3: really fun. And we've had about one and a half seasons.
Speaker 3: But we're all in media, so our lives are just
Speaker 3: busy all the time. So a little hiatus at the
Speaker 3: moment until we calm down a bit. But pivot. Check
Speaker 3: it out Apple Music, Spotify.
Speaker 1: I love that. Will you blended to things? Pop music
Speaker 1: and nerd?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, and it's fun being a nerd. It is
Speaker 1: of what you're interested in and how you break that down.
Speaker 1: So who's your favorite? Do you have a favorite pop person?
Speaker 3: I mean Kylie Minogue's an icon. Yeah, sure, and she's
Speaker 3: the pop icon. Everyone says Madonna's queen of pop, but
Speaker 3: you know what Kyl is? Kylie is it for me.
Speaker 3: There's an R and B singer called Brandy who was
Speaker 3: really bigg it.
Speaker 2: Remember Brandy.
Speaker 3: She's nicknamed the vocal Bible. Why because most of the
Speaker 3: R and B singers especially female you here today, a
Speaker 3: lot of how they produce their vocals is based on
Speaker 3: what she used to do. So she actually popularized vocal layering,
Speaker 3: like as in layering your own voice on top of
Speaker 3: your yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Even before Michael Jackson do you reckon?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: She?
Speaker 3: I mean, she popularized it. The way she did it
Speaker 3: was in a way that had never been done before,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people try and replicate that now
Speaker 3: are in a grunde for example, recently on her album
Speaker 3: Positions that was inspired by what branded oakally back in
Speaker 3: the two thousands.
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting because the nerd just get a bit
Speaker 1: nerdy too, because I heard a recent recording of all
Speaker 1: the layerings that Michael Jackson did in thriller Yeah and
Speaker 1: it is. It is insane.
Speaker 4: It's incredible what he did, and to create the chorus
Speaker 4: of a sound of vocalization, even down to his yeah, all.
Speaker 1: That sort of stuff. It was all beautifully placed and
Speaker 1: rhythmic and added to the whole ambience of the whole tracks.
Speaker 1: So that's very that's very interesting.
Speaker 2: Who does more layering than anyone?
Speaker 1: A Swedish chef and yeah, apparently Irish.
Speaker 2: She's Irish. Let's just get back to the Irish lives
Speaker 2: in a castle now by herself, Yes, and apparently just
Speaker 2: sings things over and over again and layers it and
Speaker 2: that's how you get that haunting kind of incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I accidentally had her as one of my top artists
Speaker 3: last year because he's got to sleep listening to her.
Speaker 3: So I got my I'm an Apple music use a
Speaker 3: sorry guy, so Spotify boys and Girls up there. So
Speaker 3: when I looked at my end of year thing and
Speaker 3: he was on there, I was like, what the heck?
Speaker 3: But I forgot that she used to help me.
Speaker 2: Fall this of course. Yeah, yeah, truly, she does have
Speaker 2: that beautiful ambience ness to her. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's a word, but let's just leave it ambien ambience. Yeah,
Speaker 2: now I've just made it, made it up. I was
Speaker 2: going to ask you, I am. I have just started
Speaker 2: diving into true crime podcasts. I'm actually addicted, really love.
Speaker 1: Now, mate. You don't know when she gets addicted to something.
Speaker 1: It's like I love watching footy and everything footy, and
Speaker 1: I can do that and now I'll go watching the
Speaker 1: footy again or the golf. Actually sports that's addicted. She
Speaker 1: does antique road show Antique. So I'm like, walk, are
Speaker 1: you watching the fo honey? She is watching the Yantic
Speaker 1: Roadshow says so, now I didn't know this, so now yes.
Speaker 2: So that's really interesting. So they cast to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah so, and it's and sometimes they're almost happening in
Speaker 2: real time. I'm listening to one called Bronwin at the moment,
Speaker 2: which is the death of this woman up in Lennox Head,
Speaker 2: and it's it's basically it's they're they're putting out the
Speaker 2: episodes as they speak. They've actually just taken a break
Speaker 2: right now because more information is coming in about but
Speaker 2: since the all the facts have gone out on this
Speaker 2: particular podcast, now they're getting more information from the public,
Speaker 2: so they're actually having to take a break and compile everything.
Speaker 2: So I'm just hanging out for the next.
Speaker 3: True podcasts are so intricate to make. They must be
Speaker 3: the legalities behind the everything checked and at risk, So
Speaker 3: there's so much work that goes into making them.
Speaker 2: It's so true because there's there's a particular language that
Speaker 2: this the guy I forget his name who hosts it,
Speaker 2: but he also did teacher his pet and basically got
Speaker 2: that guy convicted of murder and every time he has
Speaker 2: like a quote from someone, this is a quote from
Speaker 2: so and so. This is not their voice. It's been
Speaker 2: played by an actor. So he has to say that
Speaker 2: every time. I'm like this, I'm sure this is all legal.
Speaker 2: And he's never said we think this guy has done it.
Speaker 2: It's just like we're staying open. This is what's been supposed,
Speaker 2: this is what's all about.
Speaker 1: Hard and then you've got to get the availability of
Speaker 1: Steve Martin and Martin Short to to play it as
Speaker 1: well for TV.
Speaker 2: Right, right, Well, how did we segue there?
Speaker 1: Well, it's only murders in the building and that's that's
Speaker 1: a podcast true crime, right as loose it was. It
Speaker 1: was a little string.
Speaker 3: I'll give it to you. You can stay.
Speaker 1: You can stay as that producer. You laugh at my job,
Speaker 1: at these tenuous threads I throw out.
Speaker 2: When when to laugh and sue the talent? The talent
Speaker 2: have you had? Have you had someone that's come on
Speaker 2: one of the podcasts that you've produced that you've absolutely loved,
Speaker 2: like you had a favorite guest.
Speaker 3: That is a good question. I'm going to answer in
Speaker 3: two ways because obviously I've been in radio as well. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: So I'll start with radio. First I had I've been
Speaker 3: a massive Jessica cowboy fan for it's idle love her,
Speaker 3: and I'd never seen a live It just hadn't happened.
Speaker 3: And I'd always thought I'm going to run into one
Speaker 3: day because I'm in media. And last year I was
Speaker 3: working on a network and we booked her as a
Speaker 3: guest and I was like, oh my gosh, she's coming in.
Speaker 3: What am I going to do?
Speaker 2: This is so crazy.
Speaker 3: Anyway, she came here, she did the slot, and like
Speaker 3: I just couldn't wap the smile off my face, got
Speaker 3: just She's amazing. Yeah, and spoke to one of the
Speaker 3: people at the label and I said, I just like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a really big fan, and you know,
Speaker 3: if I could just love to chat to her for
Speaker 3: a second, and I'm like, yeah, sure. We ended up
Speaker 3: singing together. I've got a video of it because I
Speaker 3: know pop music. Note here completely nerded out and said
Speaker 3: to her, your song Maze that is a gay anthem
Speaker 3: and it is a travesty that that wasn't released as
Speaker 3: a single, and she goes, you know what, I actually
Speaker 3: fought for that song to be released and the label
Speaker 3: would not release it. So I got this inside scoop
Speaker 3: and I was like, I knew I was right about that.
Speaker 1: Yes, So did you admit to her that you were fanboying?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I said, like, this is like a moment
Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, we completely bonded. It was great.
Speaker 2: I love her. I love her on the voys. I
Speaker 2: just I just love her. It's fantastic. Speaking of which,
Speaker 2: can we get Kylie Minogue on separate bathrooms?
Speaker 3: You know what I've sent the email already?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Can you imagine getting Kylie and Denny together? Oh
Speaker 3: wouldn't that we do?
Speaker 1: That would be great to have that sibling.
Speaker 2: Relations shows you kind of you've met.
Speaker 1: Her through the years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: I used to get mistaken for Kylie Minogue all the time.
Speaker 3: I see that.
Speaker 2: When I was when we were back in my Dolly days,
Speaker 2: I had one young, clearly young girl, just gay fellow
Speaker 2: follow me. One day I was on a I was
Speaker 2: on the Manly to Shelley Walk and I could see
Speaker 2: him like frothing over there, and you know, he's looking
Speaker 2: at his friends and he's like he's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: oh my god, oh my god, is it hers? And
Speaker 2: he's almost like in tears and then he kind of
Speaker 2: could feel him following, and I'm like, is he a
Speaker 2: Dolly fan or what is it? And then he came
Speaker 2: up and he was like, it's you, Kylie.
Speaker 3: Is it you.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh honey, it's not me, it's not Kylie.
Speaker 2: And he's like, you're just like her. I'm sorry, but
Speaker 2: he was so beside himself to think that I might
Speaker 2: have been Kylie.
Speaker 1: That was like the time in Los Angeles at Pasadena
Speaker 1: where that guy was frothing over me and he came
Speaker 1: up and he said, God damn, Billy Bob Thornton, I
Speaker 1: love your work.
Speaker 2: And you were like, please do not put me in
Speaker 2: That cad.
Speaker 1: Came back to you and I was just like, Billy Pop,
Speaker 1: what mirror am I looking at?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I love those moments though.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, so suggests Malboy for radio podcast fan Boy Moment.
Speaker 3: So I've only been in podcasting for this. This is
Speaker 3: my first year in podcasting. Okay, So I haven't had
Speaker 3: too many guests yet. However, we recently had Christian Hole
Speaker 3: on Big Business with Britney Saunders. I mean he was
Speaker 3: forced to shut down his business. And usually we're interviewing
Speaker 3: like founders of businesses that are thriving, and you know,
Speaker 3: we talk about the moments where it hasn't gone so well.
Speaker 3: But he had had to shut down his business because
Speaker 3: he's an absolute financial strife. So it was just a
Speaker 3: really really interesting perspective to hear. So I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: probably Christian Hole's business. It was called funck off Shop.
Speaker 1: Okay, or maybe something in the title.
Speaker 2: That items energetically it might Yeah, has he has? He
Speaker 2: rebranded as he started up again with something I.
Speaker 3: Shut it down. He made a very vulnerable video on
Speaker 3: TikTok saying, this is the reality of my situation. I
Speaker 3: have two and fifty thousand dollars worth of stock I
Speaker 3: have to sell, and I think within the first three
Speaker 3: days he's sold over one hundred thousand dollars of it
Speaker 3: because people are just like, let's support this and help
Speaker 3: him out. So yeah, that must be a good learning absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Curfe, you listening to all of that because it's
Speaker 2: I've been meaning to listen to that one big business, right,
Speaker 2: yeah business? Yeah? Nice? And how's the skin going? Because
Speaker 2: now you're listening to.
Speaker 3: I'm actually I've got a sort of light beat on
Speaker 3: this morning. I'm using the door backstage, face and body
Speaker 3: foundation and I feel great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. I love that.
Speaker 1: Wow, really impress Its so related. I'm really impressive to.
Speaker 2: Podcasts one on skincare, own beauty and on money and business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's not so much that it's the it's
Speaker 1: the skincare and how you're able to just immediately tell
Speaker 1: me and our listener, and how what you have on
Speaker 1: your face and how open people are. Hugh Jackman posted
Speaker 1: the other day on his Instagram, this is fifty five.
Speaker 1: I believe he thinks, and he's got too like pieces
Speaker 1: of paper under his underneath his eye eyes. I guess
Speaker 1: you know, you.
Speaker 2: Think it was paper. It would have been like a
Speaker 2: four cut up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pieces of paper. I mean like maybe it's a
Speaker 1: Selene schmidged on them or something going on.
Speaker 3: Working on my masks much.
Speaker 1: That's what he had on there. He was wearing high
Speaker 1: masks taking care of his Well.
Speaker 3: Now it's radio. I get enough sleep so I don't
Speaker 3: need the usk.
Speaker 1: But anyway, male skincare has really come a long way. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: people aren't. Yeah, that's good. It's good. Hey, we're getting
Speaker 1: to know Xander, our new producer on Separate Bathrooms. Mate,
Speaker 1: do you have a celebrity crush.
Speaker 3: Oh, let me think about that for a second. You
Speaker 3: know what, because I work in media, the kind of
Speaker 3: hype around celebrity isn't It doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 3: Like when I meet people, obviously, God, what I I
Speaker 3: meet someone like Jessica mal By, I'm excited, but they're
Speaker 3: just another person to me, Like, I don't really play
Speaker 3: into the celebrity of it all. So it's such a
Speaker 3: boring answer. I don't think I really have a celebrity crush.
Speaker 1: Is there a sporting crush or a political crush?
Speaker 3: You've changed? Yeah, you've changed the game now. I don't
Speaker 3: know if I worked on your blame. I don't know
Speaker 3: if I could say any of them, because every second
Speaker 3: sports walked in, I was like, yeah, he's good.
Speaker 1: Sports fan.
Speaker 3: So yeah. My dad actually used to coach NRL. His
Speaker 3: name's Paul Cross. He used to coach the reserve grade,
Speaker 3: so he used to coach paramatter coach Newcastle. He had
Speaker 3: a bit to do with men Storm at one point.
Speaker 3: I believe so.
Speaker 1: And did that go down the list to you in
Speaker 1: terms of was he.
Speaker 2: That's why he became and Iron supporter? Straight down?
Speaker 3: Dad has been the most supportive parent in terms of
Speaker 3: my dancing since the get go, that's so goodous it.
Speaker 1: Is Billy Elliott. He wasn't a minor, he.
Speaker 3: Was a he was a reserve.
Speaker 2: There's a booby in his I'm sure you don't know.
Speaker 3: The half of this is just the surface.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So then Sporting crush, when you said, oh
Speaker 1: he's good, what comes to me? Or she's good? What
Speaker 1: what comes to mind?
Speaker 3: I know a lot of them. I can't say that.
Speaker 2: It's got to keep it. It's got to keep it
Speaker 2: tight lipped on this one.
Speaker 3: Really Otherwise the girl there's that's stalker producer.
Speaker 1: Okay, juicy, you have to be cool. See Roger Federer
Speaker 1: for me, No, I stood beside him on my fiftieth
Speaker 1: birthday at Nobu in sound like or Malanboo because I
Speaker 1: just wanted to stand. I did the same with Buddy Franklin,
Speaker 1: just went and stood beside him at the at the
Speaker 1: counter paying for a thing.
Speaker 3: I will name someone. I will name someone, Reese Walsh, Prison,
Speaker 3: broncos Right. I just do a lot of good things
Speaker 3: at the moment, and not just anyone.
Speaker 2: That they completely knocked out in the Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: completely knocked out in the first few minutes of round one.
Speaker 2: Just knocked him out unconscious, one of the new South Wales.
Speaker 1: This is in State of cam what's going on here? NRL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I look, I really try. I like watching close games,
Speaker 1: close matches of anything, whether that's whether that's the world game,
Speaker 1: hockey in the Olympics, I'm excited about that, the hockey,
Speaker 1: US hockey ruse or.
Speaker 3: Forward to watching the Olympics.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 2: I love the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we've had the weekend of swimming that's.
Speaker 3: Been always good.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: I do weirdly enough, I love the rowing. I also
Speaker 2: love the kayaking, like I know Jess Fox, you know,
Speaker 2: our flag bearer, like her winning gold and her sister's
Speaker 2: bloody and the Olympics too. Amazing family. But I actually
Speaker 2: love the gymnastics. Do you love the gymnastics?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my face.
Speaker 2: Because you're like doing gymnastics now I am.
Speaker 3: And he started her in may I.
Speaker 2: Know, did you? I was we were talking about this
Speaker 2: before he does. He trains three days a week at
Speaker 2: a gymnastics time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is that floor exercise or you do the you look
Speaker 1: strong enough to do the ring Xander.
Speaker 3: I know there's ring classes. Would you like tumbling classes?
Speaker 3: Learning how to like flip and things like that. There's
Speaker 3: they've got specific classes for just working your handstands. It's
Speaker 3: bloody great lay strength Alexandria here in Sydney, fantastic.
Speaker 1: How old are they people in there? Like the oldest?
Speaker 1: If you got this like the people in their fifties,
Speaker 1: could I do it?
Speaker 3: Rely? Yeah, it's it's anyone with any ability. You actually
Speaker 3: get taken in and you do a private lesson first
Speaker 3: with one of the instructors and that's for them to
Speaker 3: kind of assess your ability and where they think that
Speaker 3: you can kind of fit in classes.
Speaker 2: You give them a little dance number and they went
Speaker 2: straight straight to the top.
Speaker 3: It was so embarrassing. It was so embarrassing because he
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, we're gonna do a Ford role. I
Speaker 3: was thinking because I was like, how do I do?
Speaker 3: I haven't done a Ford role in like twenty years?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 3: It? Was scary?
Speaker 2: And did?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did it.
Speaker 2: Do you love the rhythmic gymnastics with the ball and
Speaker 2: the batons.
Speaker 3: All the ribbons?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: I love to do a ribbon number.
Speaker 1: My god, I love it.
Speaker 2: My sister like she it makes her want to vomit
Speaker 2: like she seems. Yea, she hates it with a passion.
Speaker 2: And I love it because I did ballet when I
Speaker 2: was younger me. It's such and those is so hard.
Speaker 2: It is so hard, the flexibility, and.
Speaker 3: I really like to appreciate gymnastics since starting, you know,
Speaker 3: my basic level myself. Yeah, but I honestly think it
Speaker 3: is the hardest sport in the world. It is crazy.
Speaker 3: And you know what, fun fact, my barber is twelfth
Speaker 3: in the world for the pommel. Yeah for real, yea,
Speaker 3: for real, yes, right now, Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 1: Gosh, he must day must be.
Speaker 3: So strong, a strong boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he'd be able to spin you around on
Speaker 2: that barber chair and help you leave over you And
Speaker 2: we've actually got a really good shot possibly of winning
Speaker 2: a medal in the rhythmic gymnastics. Then yes, there's a
Speaker 2: young lady who is actually originally from Greece. She was
Speaker 2: I think she was born in Greece, moved here as
Speaker 2: a young girl, and she's really really brilliant. They're talking
Speaker 2: about the possibility of it that would be placed first ever, Yes,
Speaker 2: what I thought, I know.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's amazing times we're in and we're in
Speaker 1: a time of growth and change, and Xander's joined us.
Speaker 1: Xander just before we wind this up, and first of all,
Speaker 1: welcome and thank you, thank you, thanks for being here.
Speaker 1: It's so great and the fact that we were able
Speaker 1: to create something out of nothing today has been incredible
Speaker 1: because obviously we were going to do something else that
Speaker 1: didn't happen. I was going to say, actually, when you're
Speaker 1: talking about radio and how live radio is, when that
Speaker 1: that whole disturbance in the force happened last week. We
Speaker 1: were listening to radio. We were actually listening to the
Speaker 1: guys on Nova and they were forced to go old school.
Speaker 1: The computers were all down, so they were making their
Speaker 1: own playlist, and you know, traffic was in there with
Speaker 1: them and doing that. It was so alive, wasn't it
Speaker 1: all on the way home? It was a lot of work.
Speaker 3: Do you know. I want to know something funny. The
Speaker 3: entire time they were doing that show, the separate bathroom
Speaker 3: for Randing was ever in the studio because they couldn't
Speaker 3: change it from our record.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, they were looking at us the whole time.
Speaker 2: Were it was so good. They just were energized picture.
Speaker 1: Of us because they we were recording an episode for
Speaker 1: you and we lost the whole thing. We had to
Speaker 1: say goodbye to our guests and go, oh, we'll have
Speaker 1: to do this another time, and so it was quite
Speaker 1: incredible being here.
Speaker 3: We like to.
Speaker 2: Finish our podcast with a two minute shower. I've got
Speaker 2: a question for you, just just a quick one. What
Speaker 2: the world needs more of is.
Speaker 3: Oh. I think what the world needs more of is
Speaker 3: some understanding of people's situations. I think we're very very
Speaker 3: quick to judge, and I think, I mean, we're all
Speaker 3: on this journey together, to be honest. Why don't make
Speaker 3: it a good one together?
Speaker 2: Beautiful?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, one question from me. One thing. You can't
Speaker 1: leave home without my dignity because the greatest love of all.
Speaker 3: I've left home without it before, and you know, doesn't
Speaker 3: end well and it's not.
Speaker 2: Good when you don't come home with it.
Speaker 1: All right, Xander our new producer of Separate Bathrooms.
Speaker 3: Play us out, Mate, play us out.
Speaker 2: Thanks yay