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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome the separate bathrooms. We would like to

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Speaker 1: acknowledge the Gadigle people of the Eora nation, the traditional

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Speaker 1: custodians of this land, and pay our respects to the

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Speaker 1: elders both pasted it and present. My name's Cam Daddo.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ali Dado.

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Speaker 1: We we're dealing with change today. We've arrived here in

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Speaker 1: the studio and our guests have been given the wrong

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Speaker 1: information or we've been given the wrong information.

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Speaker 2: It's been a glitch. We'll just put it. We'll just

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Speaker 2: put it that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know the one we had with IBM

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Speaker 1: ten days ago.

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Speaker 2: Microsoft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can see I'm

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Speaker 1: an Apple person. It's that other thing. The other platform

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Speaker 2: Just the biggest it blackout in the world, that one.

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Speaker 1: That one, that one, that one. So we're kind of

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Speaker 1: still in that glitch. Is it a mercury retrograde?

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Speaker 3: Well, there was a big, big, full mouron. I don't

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Speaker 3: have that had anything to do with it. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if there was any retrograde. I didn't look into that.

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Speaker 3: Probably someone's looked into it. In fact, I'm sure thousands

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Speaker 3: and millions of astrologers have looked into that.

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Speaker 1: It would make sense, wouldn't it With all that's happening.

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Speaker 2: We've got Olympics happening. Yes, we've got.

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Speaker 1: The footy both codes NRL AFL. Getting to the pointy end.

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Speaker 1: People fans are getting stressed. Other fans are getting as cited.

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Speaker 2: Sarondado is getting really stressed.

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Speaker 3: We've got America and the politics over there.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a trip.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot happening in this world.

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Speaker 3: Who would have as people keep saying that if you

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Speaker 3: had written that in a movie, that whole line of

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Speaker 3: politics in America, people.

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Speaker 2: Would be like that, would never have it? I know,

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Speaker 2: But it's happening.

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Speaker 1: We won't go down that road too much. We may

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Speaker 1: get there during this chat.

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Speaker 2: But we are a relationship podcast.

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Speaker 1: We are and our and our family has grown. Would

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Speaker 2: A relationship that we're going to explore it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, because so we've we've been at this for I'd

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Speaker 2: I think it's more. We started in twenty nineteen, did

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Speaker 1: See how time flies. We've had several producers on our show,

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Speaker 1: and our most recent producer, Adair, has moved back to

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Speaker 1: Tazzy to take care of her family. And things, and

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Speaker 1: we have a new member of our family. Xander's come

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Speaker 1: in and he's our new producer. Hi, Xander, Hello, another boy.

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Speaker 4: Is my debut in your bathroom?

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Speaker 2: This is very Excitingly, we've never done this. As Cam said,

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Speaker 2: we're pulling back the bathroom.

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Speaker 1: Kurt, Yeah, the curtain.

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Speaker 4: It's a lovely sight. Let me tell you, Xander's in

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Speaker 1: So listener, you know, it's not just us, it's not

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Speaker 1: Last week Xander's joined us. We thought, why not, let's

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Speaker 3: Xander also said, I'm an open book and I've had

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Speaker 3: a rather interesting life.

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Speaker 2: Now that picked own interest.

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Speaker 1: Especially yours.

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Speaker 2: Ask some questions, Xander.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, put me. I did it competitively for about

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Speaker 4: So the World's I did for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, what an excellent I I'm not dancing. Nothing to

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Speaker 4: They this is the gen Z version of Irish occupation.

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Speaker 2: Clearly, that is amazing.

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Speaker 4: It's different every day, Yeah, something new that happens every day.

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Speaker 5: This is just too the same, too rigid, not creative

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Speaker 1: podcasting And do you think podcastings are fad because there's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know I kind of thrive.

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Speaker 5: You thrive off the adrenaline because it is, especially breakfast radio,

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Speaker 3: It's so true because there's there's a particular language that

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Speaker 4: I'll give it to you. You can stay.

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Speaker 1: You can stay as that producer. You laugh at my job,

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Speaker 4: You know what I've sent the email already?

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Speaker 1: Yeah you would.

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Speaker 1: We do that. It would be great to have that sibling.

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Speaker 6: I see that.

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Speaker 2: And He's almost like in tears.

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Speaker 6: I love those moments though.

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Speaker 5: So I've only been in podcasting for this. This is

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Speaker 5: my first year in podcasting. Okay, So I haven't had

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Speaker 5: too many guests yet. However, we recently had Christian Hole

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Speaker 5: on Big Business with Britney Saunders. I mean he was

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Speaker 5: forced to shut down his business. And usually we're interviewing

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Speaker 5: like founders of businesses that are thriving, and you know,

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Speaker 5: we talk about the moments where it hasn't gone so well.

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Speaker 5: But he had had to shut down his business because

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Speaker 5: he's an absolute financial strife. So it was just a

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Speaker 5: really really interesting perspective to hear. So I think, yeah,

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Speaker 5: probably Christian Hole's business it was called funck off Shop.

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Speaker 1: Okay, or maybe something in the title.

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Speaker 3: That items energetically it might Yeah, has he has?

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Speaker 2: He rebranded as he started up again with something I.

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Speaker 4: Shut it down.

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Speaker 5: He made a very vulnerable video on TikTok saying, this

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Speaker 5: is the reality of my situation. I have two and

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Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars worth of stock I have to sell,

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Speaker 5: and I think within the first three days he's sold

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Speaker 5: over one hundred thousand dollars of it because people are

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Speaker 5: just like, let's support this and help him out.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that must be a good learning absolutely.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Cur fore you listening to all of that because it's

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Speaker 3: I've been meaning to listen to that one big business?

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah?

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Speaker 6: Business?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Nice? And how's the skin going?

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Speaker 3: Because now you're listening to.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually I've got a sort of light beat on

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Speaker 5: this morning. I'm using the door backstage face and body

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Speaker 5: foundation and I feel great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Wow, really impress.

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Speaker 4: Its so related.

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Speaker 1: I'm really impressive to.

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Speaker 3: Podcasts one on skincare, own beauty and on money and business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's not so much that it's the it's

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Speaker 1: the skincare and how you're able to just immediately tell

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Speaker 1: me and our listener, and how what you have on

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Speaker 1: your face and how open people are. Hugh Jackman posted

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Speaker 1: the other day on his Instagram, this is fifty five.

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Speaker 1: I believe he thinks, and he's got too like pieces

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Speaker 1: of paper under his underneath his eye eyes. I guess

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Speaker 1: you know you.

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Speaker 2: Think it was paper. It would have been like a

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Speaker 2: four cut up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pieces of paper. I mean like maybe it's a

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Speaker 1: Selene schmidged on them or something going on.

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Speaker 4: Working on my masks much.

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Speaker 1: That's what he had on there. He was wearing high

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Speaker 1: masks taking care of his well.

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Speaker 4: Now, radio, I get enough sleep so I don't need

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Speaker 4: the mask.

501
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Speaker 1: But anyway, male skincare has really come a long way. Yeah, definitely,

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Speaker 1: people aren't. Yeah, that's good, it's good. Hey, we're getting

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Speaker 1: to know Xander, our new producer on Separate Bathrooms. Mate,

504
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Speaker 1: do you have a celebrity crush.

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Speaker 5: Oh, let me think about that for a second. You

506
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Speaker 5: know what, because I work in media, the kind of

507
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Speaker 5: hype around celebrity isn't It doesn't.

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Speaker 6: Do it for me.

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Speaker 5: Like when I meet people, obviously, God, what I I

510
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Speaker 5: meet someone like Jessica mal By, I'm excited, but they're

511
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Speaker 5: just another person to me, Like, I don't really play

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Speaker 5: into the celebrity of it all.

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Speaker 4: So it's such a boring answer.

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Speaker 6: I don't think I really have a celebrity crush.

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Speaker 1: Is there a sporting crush or a political crush?

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Speaker 6: You've changed? Yeah, you've changed the game now.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I worked on your blame.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I could say any of them,

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Speaker 5: because every second sports walked in, I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's good.

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Speaker 1: Sports fan.

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Speaker 4: So yeah. My dad actually used to coach NRL. His

523
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Speaker 4: name's Paul Cross. He used to coach the reserve grade,

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Speaker 4: so he used to coach paramatter coach Newcastle. He had

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Speaker 4: a bit to do with urn Storm at one point.

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Speaker 4: I believe so.

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Speaker 1: And did that go down the list to you in

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Speaker 1: terms of was he.

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Speaker 2: That's why he became and iron supporter? Straight down?

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Speaker 5: Dad has been the most supportive parent in terms of

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Speaker 5: my dancing since the get go.

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Speaker 2: That's so goodous.

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Speaker 1: It is Billy Elliott. He wasn't a minor, he.

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Speaker 6: Was a he was a reserve.

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Speaker 2: There's a booby in his I'm sure you don't know.

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Speaker 6: The half of this is just the surface.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So then Sporting crush, when you said, oh

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Speaker 1: he's good, what comes to me?

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Speaker 6: Or she's good?

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Speaker 1: What what comes to mind?

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Speaker 6: I know a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: I can't say that.

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Speaker 2: It's got to keep it. It's got to keep it

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Speaker 2: tight lipped on this one.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise the girl there is that's stalker producer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, y, you have to be cool. See Roger Federer

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Speaker 1: for me, No, I stood beside him on my fiftieth

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Speaker 1: birthday at NOBU. Sounded like or malanboo because I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to stand. I did the same with Buddy Franklin,

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Speaker 1: just went and stood beside him at the at the

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Speaker 1: counter paying for a thing.

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Speaker 4: I will name someone.

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Speaker 6: I will name someone, Reese Walsh, Prison, broncos Right. I

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Speaker 6: just do a lot of good things at the moment,

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Speaker 6: and not just anyone.

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Speaker 2: That they completely knocked out in the Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah completely knocked.

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Speaker 3: Out in the first few minutes of round one. Just

560
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Speaker 3: knocked him out unconscious, one of the new South Wales.

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Speaker 1: This is in State of cam what's going on here? NRL? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I look, I really try. I like watching close games,

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Speaker 1: close matches of anything, whether that's whether that's the world game,

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Speaker 1: hockey in the Olympics, I'm excited about that, the hockeyroos,

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Speaker 1: hockey ruse.

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Speaker 6: Or forward to watching the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: It's really good.

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Speaker 2: I love the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we've had the weekend of swimming that's.

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Speaker 6: Been always good.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: I do weirdly enough, I love the rowing. I also

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Speaker 3: love the kayaking, like I know Jess Fox, you know,

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Speaker 3: our flag bearer, like her winning gold and her sister's

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Speaker 3: bloody and the Olympics too. Amazing family. But I actually

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Speaker 3: love the gymnastics. Do you love the gymnastics?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my favorite because you're like doing gymnastics now

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 6: And he started her in may I.

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Speaker 2: Know, did you?

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Speaker 3: I was we were talking about this before he does.

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Speaker 3: He trains three days a week at a gymnastics time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is that floor exercise or you do the you look

585
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Speaker 1: strong enough to do the ring, Xander.

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Speaker 4: I know there's ring classes.

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Speaker 5: Would you like tumbling classes learning how to like flip

588
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Speaker 5: and things like that. There's they've got specific classes for.

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Speaker 6: Just working your handstands.

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Speaker 5: It's bloody great lay strength and Alexandria here in Sydney fantastic.

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Speaker 1: How old are they people in there? Like the oldest?

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Speaker 1: If you got this like the people in their fifties,

593
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Speaker 1: could I do itly? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: It's it's anyone with any ability. You actually get taken

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Speaker 5: in and you do a private lesson first with one

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Speaker 5: of the instructors and that's for them to kind of

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Speaker 5: assess your ability and where they think that you can

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Speaker 5: kind of fit in classes.

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Speaker 3: You give them a little dance number and they went

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Speaker 3: straight straight to the top.

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Speaker 4: It was so embarrassing. It was so embarrassing because he

602
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Speaker 4: was like, Okay, we're gonna do a Ford role.

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Speaker 6: I was thinking because I was like, how do I do?

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Speaker 4: I haven't done a Ford role in like twenty years?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 4: It was scary and yeah, I did it.

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Speaker 3: Do you love the rhythmic gymnastics with the ball and

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Speaker 3: the batons.

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Speaker 6: All the ribbons?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

611
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Speaker 4: I love to do a ribbon number.

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Speaker 1: My god, I love it.

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Speaker 2: My sister like she it makes her want to vomit,

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Speaker 2: like she seems. Yeah, she hates it with a passion.

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Speaker 3: And I love it because I did ballet when I

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Speaker 3: was younger me.

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Speaker 2: It's such and those there.

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Speaker 1: It is so hard.

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Speaker 2: It is so hard, the flexibility, and I.

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Speaker 5: Really appreciate gymnastics since starting, you know, my basic level myself. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but I honestly think it is the hardest sport in

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Speaker 5: the world.

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Speaker 6: It is crazy.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, fun fact, my barber is twelfth

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Speaker 5: in the world for the pommel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah for real, yea for real, yes right now, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's insane.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, he must day must be so strong as a

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Speaker 1: strong boy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he'd be able to spin you around on

631
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Speaker 3: that barber chair and help you leave over you And

632
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Speaker 3: we've actually got a really good shot possibly of winning

633
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Speaker 3: a medal in the rhythmic gymnastics. Then yes, there's a

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Speaker 3: young lady who is actually originally from Greece. She was

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Speaker 3: I think she was born in Greece, moved here as

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Speaker 3: a young girl, and she's really really brilliant. They're talking

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Speaker 3: about the possibility of it that would be placed first ever, Yes.

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Speaker 1: What I thought, I know, it's amazing. It's amazing times

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Speaker 1: we're in and we're in a time of growth and change.

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Speaker 1: And Xander's joined us. Xander just before we wind this up,

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Speaker 1: and first of all, welcome and thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being here. It's so great. And the fact

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Speaker 1: that we were able to create something out of nothing

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Speaker 1: today has been incredible because obviously we were going to

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Speaker 1: do something else that didn't happen. I was going to say, actually,

646
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Speaker 1: when you're talking about radio and how live radio is,

647
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: when that that whole disturbance in the force happened last week.

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Speaker 1: We were listening to radio. We were actually listening to

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Speaker 1: the guys on Nova and they were forced to go

650
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Speaker 1: old school. The computers were all down, so they were

651
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Speaker 1: making their own playlist, and you know, traffic was in

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Speaker 1: there with them and doing that. It was so alive,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it all still on the way home. It was

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Speaker 1: a lot of work.

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Speaker 4: Do you know.

656
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Speaker 6: I want to know something funny.

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Speaker 5: The entire time they were doing that show, the separate

658
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Speaker 5: bathroom branding was ever in the studio because they couldn't

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Speaker 5: change it from our record.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, they were looking at us the whole

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Speaker 3: time because it was so good.

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Speaker 2: They just were energized picture.

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Speaker 1: Of us because they we were recording an episode for

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Speaker 1: you and we lost the whole thing. We had to

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Speaker 1: say goodbye to our guests and go, oh, we'll have

666
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Speaker 1: to do this another time, and so it was quite

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Speaker 1: incredible being here.

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Speaker 4: We like to.

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Speaker 3: Finish our podcast with a two minute shower. I've got

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Speaker 3: a question for you, just just a quick one.

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Speaker 2: What the world needs more of is.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 5: I think what the world needs more of is some

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Speaker 5: understanding of people's situations.

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Speaker 6: I think we're.

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Speaker 5: Very very quick to judge, and I think I mean,

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Speaker 5: we're all on this journey together, to be honest.

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Speaker 6: Why don't make it a good one together?

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Speaker 2: Beautiful?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, one question from me. One thing. You can't

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Speaker 1: leave home without my dignity because the greatest love of all.

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Speaker 5: I've left home without it before and you know doesn't

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Speaker 5: end well and it's not.

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Speaker 2: Good when you don't come home with it.

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Speaker 7: All right, Xander our new producer of Separate Bathrooms.

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Speaker 1: Play us out, Mate, play us out.

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Speaker 2: Thanks yay