Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
Speaker 2: This is Sharry and Merry Christmas to you too, Andrew.
Speaker 2: You've had an amazing year. Well, good evening everyone. This
Speaker 2: is my second last show before the Christmas break. Don't
Speaker 2: miss a minute because it's a massive program, A big
Speaker 2: exclusive on Tony Birk's department asking Israeli visitors if they've
Speaker 2: committed war crimes or witness genocide, just if they want
Speaker 2: to come to our country.
Speaker 3: That scoop coming up.
Speaker 2: Plus, Israeli Eurovision singer Eden Golan is on the show exclusively.
Speaker 2: Tonight she was heckled, booed and face serious security threats,
Speaker 2: and tonight she shares her powerful message.
Speaker 3: About standing tall amid the hate.
Speaker 2: But first, today the Prime Minister try to put the
Speaker 2: anti Semitism genie back in the bottle.
Speaker 3: Too little, too late.
Speaker 2: Waking up this morning, we see the news and you think,
Speaker 2: not again, that sick feeling in your.
Speaker 3: Stomach, what is it this time?
Speaker 2: And overnight it was a torched car an anti Semitic
Speaker 2: vandalism in Willara, just three weeks after another anti Semitic
Speaker 2: vandalism spree in the same suburb, and five days after
Speaker 2: the Adas synagogue bombing. It seems we can't get through
Speaker 2: a week without another horrific incident unfolding.
Speaker 3: And I worry that.
Speaker 2: Now it's too late to put this hatred back in
Speaker 2: the box. Our political leaders and law enforcement have allowed
Speaker 2: this to spread for fourteen months, and now they're trying
Speaker 2: to act, and it's just too late. The Prime Minister
Speaker 2: finally stood up today and he said that antisemitism must end.
Speaker 2: He said he supports banning protests outside homes of worship,
Speaker 2: and this is exactly what I've been calling for. Here's
Speaker 2: what he said.
Speaker 4: We need an end to any Semtism. It is evil,
Speaker 4: It diminishes ours is a nation. I own equivocally condemned
Speaker 4: the shameful ex of violent aimed at the Jewish community.
Speaker 4: I certainly support the banning of demonstrations outside any place
Speaker 4: of worship.
Speaker 2: So this is Alban Eazy trying to put the gen
Speaker 2: back in the bottle. After allowing anti Israel hatred to
Speaker 2: spill over into antisemitism for fourteen months, He's now realized
Speaker 2: that Australians hate this ugly racism. He's realized this is
Speaker 2: a major political problem for him. He's been pressured by
Speaker 2: all of the media and so now, as I said,
Speaker 2: he's trying to put the anti Semitism genie back in
Speaker 2: the bottle after allowing it to run rampant to our
Speaker 2: despair for too long. His government directly allowed this anti
Speaker 2: Israel sentiment to spill over into naked jew hatred with
Speaker 2: barely any pushback, and his government is still even as
Speaker 2: we see f Israel spray painted on torched cars in
Speaker 2: Jewish areas, his government is still perpetuating this anti Israel message.
Speaker 2: Penniwong inflames tensions and heightens the temperature, emboldening the pro
Speaker 2: Palestinian activists with her constant.
Speaker 3: Criticism of Israel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Prime Minister today reject this accusation. He claims
Speaker 2: that Penny Wong understands racism.
Speaker 4: Anyone knows about racism, you know, this is someone who
Speaker 4: understands very firsthand the damage that racism can cause.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but just because she has personally experienced racism
Speaker 2: doesn't mean she understands antisemitism, which she clearly doesn't. As
Speaker 2: Dave Shima, liberal senator said here last night, her provocative
Speaker 2: anti Israel retrick is only making this crisis worse.
Speaker 5: Simply condones and encourages the sort of anti Israel sentiment
Speaker 5: we've seen on the streets which is becoming very quickly
Speaker 5: anti Semitic and anti Jewish as well. So I think
Speaker 5: it was a particularly ill timed intervention by the Foreign Minister,
Speaker 5: and I think she should be much more careful with
Speaker 5: her language, given she is Australia's chief diplotment.
Speaker 2: Well Alben easy there rejecting those comments from Dave Sharma
Speaker 2: and others. The Prime Minister today also wouldn't admit that
Speaker 2: we're in an anti Semitism crisis. He was directly asked
Speaker 2: that question and he again spoke about going to a
Speaker 2: bar mitzvah and shabt as if he's only just found
Speaker 2: out about these Jewish traditions.
Speaker 4: On Saturday, I visited a synagogue.
Speaker 6: I went to my first bar mitzvah there in Perth.
Speaker 6: There was a criticism I've seen that we didn't go
Speaker 6: with media. It was Shabbat of respect for the Jewish faith.
Speaker 2: And he first made that bar mitzvah comment when he
Speaker 2: turned up to the site of the terror attack, and
Speaker 2: it was one of the very first things he said,
Speaker 2: instead of expressing sorrow for what the community there is
Speaker 2: going through.
Speaker 4: I went to my first bar Mitzvah on Saturday.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, day in, day out.
Speaker 2: For months, we've been begging for leadership on social cohesion,
Speaker 2: on anti Semitism. Holocaust survivors in Josh Fridenberg's documentary implored
Speaker 2: alban easy to act. That was five months ago. But
Speaker 2: now anti Semitism is well and truly out of the box.
Speaker 2: It's exploding, and finally the Prime Minister knows he has
Speaker 2: to stop it.
Speaker 3: But how do you stop it at this point?
Speaker 2: I truly don't know, And I have to say it
Speaker 2: made my stomach turn when I first saw this pro
Speaker 2: Palestinian prime minister, who's made horrible accusations against Israel his
Speaker 2: entire career, standing in the Holocaust Museum for a political
Speaker 2: press conference, for political point scoring. It really made me
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable, even queasy. But I know the Sydney Jewish
Speaker 2: Museum is the best place for those who need an
Speaker 2: education on anti Semitism, and by Albanesi certainly does.
Speaker 3: After touring the Holocaust Museum, he finally took the right tone.
Speaker 2: But he took a very different tone at a private
Speaker 2: labor function, and he was caught on tape boasting about
Speaker 2: making the Jewish community even more upset as he went
Speaker 2: on to flag further changes in Australia's Israel position, and
Speaker 2: I presume this will be at the United Nations, possibly
Speaker 2: overnight tonight. This is what Criikee Daniel Seed reported. He
Speaker 2: said in an audio recording heard by Criikee. Albanezy said
Speaker 2: some people have got a bit upset. They'll be more
Speaker 2: upset by Thursday, signaling a future announcement on Australia's position
Speaker 2: on the conflict. The Prime Minister said there was criticism
Speaker 2: from a leader on the other side of the world
Speaker 2: about our stance in the Middle East, but that we
Speaker 2: make no apologies for standing for two states in the
Speaker 2: Middle East, the right of Israel to exist and the
Speaker 2: right of Palestinians, after which he received strong applause in
Speaker 2: the room and then criik He also reported this, and
Speaker 2: I quote a source in the room told Criikee that
Speaker 2: every staff in room winced as Albanzi declared an apparent
Speaker 2: new position on Palestine on stage at the event.
Speaker 1: WOW.
Speaker 2: At the same time that the Prime Minister tries to
Speaker 2: make amends with the Jewish community for his disregard for
Speaker 2: rising anti Semitism, his foreign minister and his government is
Speaker 2: still demonizing Israel, and he turns up in an event
Speaker 2: and says that we're going to all be even more upset,
Speaker 2: caught on.
Speaker 3: Tape saying it.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: At the same time as these anti Semitic attacks are happening,
Speaker 2: the Albaneze government appears to be continuing its campaign of
Speaker 2: aggression towards Israel. And here's another shocking example. I can
Speaker 2: exclusively reveal that the Albernezi government is officially asking many
Speaker 2: Israeli visitors to Australia if they've.
Speaker 3: Committed war crimes. It's outrageous.
Speaker 2: Tony Burke's Department of Home Affairs has been sending a
Speaker 2: questionnaire to many Israeli visitors to ask them, and I'm
Speaker 2: quoting from the official form that I have a copy of.
Speaker 2: It says, have you ever participated in the crime of genocide,
Speaker 2: a crime against.
Speaker 3: Humanity or a war crime?
Speaker 2: And then there's a section where you can write details
Speaker 2: of your involvement in war crimes and who issued the
Speaker 2: orders to commit these war crimes. It also asks in
Speaker 2: the form have you ever been a witness of war
Speaker 2: crimes or a crime against humanity? Have you ever participated
Speaker 2: in a war or armed conflict in any way, and
Speaker 2: it asks again for details and leave space for how
Speaker 2: the individuals involved. This is just someone wanting to visit
Speaker 2: Australia this question as well. Have you ever participated in
Speaker 2: any physical or psychological abuse against prisoners or civilians? Have
Speaker 2: you ever participated in the capture of civilians in a
Speaker 2: war or an art conflict? And DEFAT is also asking
Speaker 2: for full details sorry home affairs not DEFAT is also
Speaker 2: asking for full details of military training and service to
Speaker 2: the army. Now this form isn't specific to Israel. It
Speaker 2: can be sent to any country where the Department feels
Speaker 2: that it needs more information about a person's military service.
Speaker 2: But the issue is in Israel, military service is compulsory
Speaker 2: for all young Israelis and people who often travel from
Speaker 2: Israel to Australia and have done so for years. They've
Speaker 2: never had to fill this out before. Now they're being
Speaker 2: asked to. Now many people have contacted me about this,
Speaker 2: but one family in particular has a terrible story. An
Speaker 2: Australian Holocaust survivor will celebrate her one hundredth birthday in
Speaker 2: a few weeks time. She wanted to be surrounded by
Speaker 2: her children, her grandchildren and her great grandchildren, but some
Speaker 2: of them live in Israel, and two family members have
Speaker 2: not been granted visas to enter Australia because of their
Speaker 2: military service in the Israeli Defense Force. Again it's compulsory
Speaker 2: for all young Israelis. So this Australian Holocaust survivor, her
Speaker 2: twenty one year old great granddaughter didn't get a visa
Speaker 2: and then has had to now go back to the army,
Speaker 2: her leave right out. She may never get to see
Speaker 2: her great grandmother again. At one hundred, you just don't
Speaker 2: know how much time you have left now. The second
Speaker 2: family member is currently stranded in Thailand.
Speaker 3: He's been there for two weeks.
Speaker 2: The family has been frantically calling Tony Burk's office.
Speaker 3: To no avail for weeks. Now they're left in Limbo.
Speaker 2: So Albanezi stands up at the Holocaust Museum to speak
Speaker 2: about antisemitism today, But this is how his government is
Speaker 2: treating a Holocaust survivor who's an Australian citizen. At the
Speaker 2: very moment the Albanese government claims that it cares about antisemitism,
Speaker 2: it's asking visitors from Israel.
Speaker 3: If they've committed war crimes.
Speaker 2: This is an inconsistent and contradictory position that shows the
Speaker 2: extent of their moral confusion. The Albanese government is still
Speaker 2: acting in a hostile way, depriving a Holocaust survivor of
Speaker 2: spending her one hundredth birthday with her family. Now, today
Speaker 2: Albanesi walked and he spoke alongside little shoes and items
Speaker 2: of clothing left behind by Jews killed in the Holocaust.
Speaker 2: He used the holocu Cost Museum for political purposes. He
Speaker 2: needs to back up his serious and solemn words with action.
Speaker 2: He needs to stop demonizing Israel and Jewish families. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be joined by David Ossip a bit
Speaker 2: later to speak about this issue and Albanese's two of
Speaker 2: the Holocaust Museum today. But as I said, a big
Speaker 2: show tonight, my exclusive interview with Israeli singer of Eurovision
Speaker 2: Edon Galan. She's a global superstar. That's coming up later
Speaker 2: in the show. Kosher Garda will be on to speak
Speaker 2: about Trump's new business endeavor, Daniel Malino, Michael Suoka as well.
Speaker 3: We're going to get to all of that.
Speaker 2: But now let's bring in my favorite Wednesday panel, former
Speaker 2: Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger and former Labor Minister
Speaker 2: Graham Richardson.
Speaker 3: Welcome to you both. Michael Kroger, what are.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on everything I've just had to say and
Speaker 2: Albanize's belated attempt to deal with this crisis.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm shocked at your revelation, but I think it's
Speaker 7: time for this blake to resign. I mean, he's doing
Speaker 7: permanent damage to this country. He wanders around Jewish institutions
Speaker 7: railing against antisemitism. This is a bloke who hasn't visited
Speaker 7: Israel since October seven, who didn't direct his Foreign minister
Speaker 7: to visit the kid would see him and the Navy
Speaker 7: Music Festival site, who personally hasn't been to Israel. He's
Speaker 7: such a friend of Israel. He hasn't been there for
Speaker 7: a quarter of a century. In eighteen and nineteen he
Speaker 7: had three meetings. When he had three meetings with a
Speaker 7: notorious anti semit Jeremy Corbyn, allowed himself to be photographed
Speaker 7: with Corbyn. He wants to arrest the Israeli Prime minister
Speaker 7: if he comes to this country. He couldn't wait to
Speaker 7: restore funding to UNRA, despite the fact that there hadn't
Speaker 7: been an investigation finished. He changed the designation of the
Speaker 7: capital from West Jerusalem. He allowed three thousand residents of
Speaker 7: Gaza to come to Australia. He told the Israeli government
Speaker 7: not to go into Lebanon. He called for a ceasefire
Speaker 7: repeatedly between Israel and the terrorist organization Hamas. He happily
Speaker 7: was photographed with the Asa Arafat when he was younger. Well,
Speaker 7: let's forgive him for that, because he was on a
Speaker 7: PLA tour. He misleads the country about Green preferences. Let's
Speaker 7: be very clear. He has the swing vote on the
Speaker 7: federal executive. Labor Party ten Left, ten right and him
Speaker 7: he has a swing vote. Elbows asked, oh, he says, oh,
Speaker 7: it's a matter if they will. No, he is the organization,
Speaker 7: the federal executive. It's his decision whether Labor give preferences
Speaker 7: to the Greens or other parties. And Honored Goes refused
Speaker 7: to hold a judicial inquiry into antisemitism, the disgraceful Jewish
Speaker 7: hatred on a university campuses. Jillian Siegel, who we appointed
Speaker 7: as the mission and then just completely ignored her. Refused
Speaker 7: a visa to a former Israeli minister, allows four of
Speaker 7: his front bingers to trash the Bob Hawk tradition just
Speaker 7: so they can say their seats in Sydney.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: No, he's a real friend of Israel and he's seriously
Speaker 7: opposed to andy Sism. This blake who took six months
Speaker 7: to clear extremists away from his own office. If he
Speaker 7: can't get these these anti Semitic, anti Jewish racists away
Speaker 7: from his own office for six months, what hope of
Speaker 7: the Jewish community got? Chari?
Speaker 2: You put it so well, Michael, when you detail the
Speaker 2: extent of the past here, and I'm sure there would
Speaker 2: be other examples better.
Speaker 7: Well, that's half. That's about half of it. That's about
Speaker 7: half of it, Charry. There's a lot more of there.
Speaker 2: I mean, there were stories that I had even forgotten
Speaker 2: that photograph with Arafat, you know, I broke that on
Speaker 2: the show completely had forgotten about that.
Speaker 3: There's just so much material here.
Speaker 2: Rich Oh, we know you're a made of elbows before
Speaker 2: you start defending him, but come on, richro I mean,
Speaker 2: he is standing there at the Holocaust Museum today. At
Speaker 2: the same time, you've had Ed Husick this week speaking
Speaker 2: about Islamophobia. The same with other ministers as well. Penny
Speaker 2: Wong still criticizing Israel. Apparently just tonight we're expecting another
Speaker 2: hostile vote at the United Nations. He's got to pull
Speaker 2: his cabinet into line if he is serious about this issue.
Speaker 3: What do you think, rich O?
Speaker 9: I think we have been a little loose, shall we say,
Speaker 9: on the subject of Israel. I think overwhelmingly Australian support
Speaker 9: the right of Israel to exist within safe and secure borders.
Speaker 9: Overwhelmingly we do, and so it's only a very small
Speaker 9: minority who don't. And if you side with that small minority,
Speaker 9: you take a very big political risk, certainly not one
Speaker 9: that I'd take. But it's not just about polling and
Speaker 9: who wins elections. It's about principle as well. And the
Speaker 9: principle involved here is absolutely clear, and we have nowhere
Speaker 9: to go as a civilized nation except to continue to
Speaker 9: support the right of Israel to exist with safety and
Speaker 9: secure borders.
Speaker 2: Rich I just want to ask you what's happened to
Speaker 2: Mark Drefus and Richard Mars. What has happened to the
Speaker 2: labor right that traditionally has been a friend of Israel.
Speaker 9: Yes, when you say that labor right, I've been somewhat
Speaker 9: associated with the labor right for a few years and
Speaker 9: I know a New South Wales conferences year after year
Speaker 9: after year, we maintained very strong support for Israel. We
Speaker 9: never weakened And as far as I'm concerned, Miles is
Speaker 9: in the same category. He's never weakened in.
Speaker 3: His support, just in his just in his power and
Speaker 3: his character.
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I think that you know, there's only
Speaker 9: so much one man can do. But I think Miles
Speaker 9: has been pretty good. I'm not going to criticize Miles for.
Speaker 3: Where are they Why aren't they speaking out?
Speaker 9: Well, I suppose that they could get out a bit more.
Speaker 9: I think Australia and the Australian Labor Party have done
Speaker 9: so much over so long. I think people know where
Speaker 9: we stand.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I don't know about that, Michael.
Speaker 2: And then what about the ABC. You might have heard
Speaker 2: this already, but the host of ABC Radio Sydney's breakfast
Speaker 2: program asked New South I was Premier Chris Mins today,
Speaker 2: if this was really an anti Semitic incident, and if
Speaker 2: it was merely a political stance, have a.
Speaker 10: Look just on your wording in your statements this morning.
Speaker 10: What's your reasoning for branding the attack anti Semitic and
Speaker 10: not anti Israel. How do you make a distinction.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think we would have to be willful
Speaker 5: at this point to turn a blind eye to that
Speaker 5: sequence of event and suggested to anything other than an
Speaker 5: anti Semitic attack.
Speaker 10: So if you're calling it anti Semitic rather than just
Speaker 10: a political anti Israel statement, what you've been in public
Speaker 10: life a long time is would you say anti Semitism
Speaker 10: is at an all time high in your experience?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 2: And then just very quickly, as Chris Canny pointed out
Speaker 2: that ABC has also suggested there's two sides to anti Semitism.
Speaker 3: Look at this, none of that plays out at all.
Speaker 11: Well, but you know, the government's record is that they
Speaker 11: have moved on a whole range of fronts to try
Speaker 11: to crack down on anti hate speech of all sorts,
Speaker 11: but it has also been trying to maintain some sort
Speaker 11: of middle path so that you know, there are two
Speaker 11: sides in this dispute, and they've been trying to not
Speaker 11: inflame the situation.
Speaker 3: Michael, That's pretty appalling, isn't.
Speaker 7: It, Charie? What can you say? I mean, don't forget
Speaker 7: this is an organization who during the First Goal War
Speaker 7: had as their independent commentator on the Middle East, the
Speaker 7: secretary of the Australian Iraq Friendship Society. They didn't realize
Speaker 7: he was that until after the war was over. I mean,
Speaker 7: the anti Israel bias at the ABC is shocking. It's disgraceful.
Speaker 7: We know who's behind it, one of their national international correspondents.
Speaker 7: It's been going on for years and it's it's disgusting.
Speaker 7: Is what is good news is that all of these
Speaker 7: people are being exposed one by one, these racists who
Speaker 7: are at these some of these demonstrations with with with Palestini,
Speaker 7: with with Hesbalah flags, with Nazi symbols, yelling out Hamma slogans, journalists,
Speaker 7: you know, one by one, a lot of these people
Speaker 7: are being exposed. A lot of these people who are
Speaker 7: at the demonstration down near jeff Shed, the Military Forces exhibition,
Speaker 7: who've had their photographs in the paper The Dream left
Speaker 7: any Jewish members of the arts community, bit by a bit,
Speaker 7: one by one, people are realizing that out from under
Speaker 7: these rocks of civilization are these Jewish hating racists who
Speaker 7: have been sitting there quietly waiting for opportunity. And the
Speaker 7: good news is the majority of the country in the
Speaker 7: world are turning on them, saying we don't want that
Speaker 7: type of division, We don't want that type of racism
Speaker 7: in this country. People have come be for a peaceful,
Speaker 7: happy life with their families. They love the Australian values.
Speaker 7: They hate this type of division. And I have to
Speaker 7: say Senator Jane Hume said this morning that the weakness
Speaker 7: of the Albanese government had in bold and certain people
Speaker 7: in this country, and I got to say Senator Jane
Speaker 7: Hume was absolutely correct.
Speaker 2: Indeed she was Graham just before we go. I want
Speaker 2: to get your summer prediction. Is there going to be
Speaker 2: a reset that the Prime minister needs over the summer months,
Speaker 2: over the Christmas period or do you think, as so
Speaker 2: often happens, there'll be some news event, whether it's blackout
Speaker 2: or something out, something else, and that this period will
Speaker 2: be the death now politically for the prime minister.
Speaker 9: Oh. I don't think there's going to be the death knell,
Speaker 9: no matter what happens over the course of the break.
Speaker 9: I think ELBO is a bit better than that, a
Speaker 9: bit stronger. But you know, look, every political party has
Speaker 9: good times and bad times. You go up, you go down.
Speaker 9: You don't just stay like that at the top of
Speaker 9: the tree. You know occasionally you're going to slip, but
Speaker 9: you don't regard that slip as the end of the earth.
Speaker 9: And we haven't had a great few weeks, so what
Speaker 9: life goes on and next week will be better.
Speaker 2: But this downward trend has been since the Vice, so
Speaker 2: it's not just a brief down period. This has been
Speaker 2: for over a year now. And the Resolve poll this
Speaker 2: week had your primary at twenty seven percent. Doesn't that
Speaker 2: worry you, Richard?
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I've been worried before that today about our primary.
Speaker 9: Our primary has been getting outrageously low, and now if
Speaker 9: we don't get thirty percent, we're in all sorts of strife.
Speaker 9: But I can remember, and it's not that long ago
Speaker 9: where we'd be terribly disappointed if we didn't get forty percent.
Speaker 9: So you've got to say, what happened? Something very big did?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well the labor going woke, that's what happened. You
Speaker 2: need to return to mainstream values growing. Richardson and Michael Kroger,
Speaker 2: Can I say it's been a pleasure having you doing
Speaker 2: this political panel this year. I love speaking and sparring
Speaker 2: with both of you. Really appreciate your time over the
Speaker 2: course of the year and look forward to doing it
Speaker 2: all again next year. All right, I'm joined now by
Speaker 2: the President of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies,
Speaker 2: David Ossip. David, thank you for your time. Look, I
Speaker 2: want to speak about this incident that we all woke
Speaker 2: up to today. What do we know so far about
Speaker 2: what happened in the early hours of this morning.
Speaker 12: Well, thank you so much having me on the show,
Speaker 12: Shari and at the outset. Let me just congratulate you
Speaker 12: and your outstanding editorial and you're extraordinary reporting over the
Speaker 12: past fourteen months.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 12: In relation to the incident which transpied in Willara overnight,
Speaker 12: we know that at least two individuals in the early
Speaker 12: hours of the morning drove to Alara, got out of
Speaker 12: their vehicle, dorbed houses and cars with anti symited graffiti,
Speaker 12: and then set their current fire and cowardly fled the scene. Obviously,
Speaker 12: the police are still investigating. We welcome the resources that
Speaker 12: the New Superal's government police have thrown at this investigation
Speaker 12: and we hope that the perpetrators who are responsible for
Speaker 12: this hate crime are swiftly apprehended in the same way
Speaker 12: that the individuals who allegedly committed a similar current crime
Speaker 12: in Willara a couple of weeks ago were apprehended.
Speaker 2: You how to press conference with the Premier Chris Mins
Speaker 2: this morning, but I noticed you weren't at the Holocaust
Speaker 2: Museum this afternoon with Alban.
Speaker 3: Easy. Are we seeing a tale of two leaders here?
Speaker 13: Shari?
Speaker 12: You are correct. I was with the Premier this morning.
Speaker 12: I didn't attend the Jewish Museum with the Prime Minister.
Speaker 12: Whilst I have the greatest of respect for the officer
Speaker 12: Prime Minister, and I'm grateful for the money which they've
Speaker 12: given this in the Jewish Museum, I couldn't bring myself
Speaker 12: to go and hear the Prime Minister talk about anti
Speaker 12: Semitism whilst his government continues to plot further policy moves
Speaker 12: against the State of Israel, and whilst he fails to
Speaker 12: reign in his foreign minister who continues to use incendiary,
Speaker 12: demonizing and provocative rhetoric which, in my opinion, endangers the
Speaker 12: Jewish community. And you're entirely right. It is very much
Speaker 12: a tale of two leaders, because the response of Chrisban's
Speaker 12: and the state government couldn't have been any stronger. He
Speaker 12: was on the phone to me in the early hours
Speaker 12: of the morning. He expressed solidarity with the Jewish community.
Speaker 12: He called the Israeli ambassador, he immediately coordinated additional security
Speaker 12: resources for the community, and he dropped everything on his
Speaker 12: plate to go to Wallara immediately to demonstrate his absolute
Speaker 12: abhorrence at what had taken place. And this has been
Speaker 12: the approach he's demonstrated over the past fourteen months. He's
Speaker 12: been there every single time, strong and unequivocal, standing side
Speaker 12: by side with the Jewish community. And I think the
Speaker 12: Prime Minister and his colleagues would do very well to
Speaker 12: learn from Premier ins.
Speaker 2: That was a very strong answer, David Ossip. How frustrated
Speaker 2: is the Jewish community at this point with the Albaneze government,
Speaker 2: including and you mentioned Penny Wang and her criticism of Israel,
Speaker 2: So what's your view on this as well well?
Speaker 12: I think the Jewish community is extremely frustrated and upset.
Speaker 12: This is a federal government which is set in its
Speaker 12: hands and been slow to act on anti Semitism for
Speaker 12: the whole of the past fourteen months. It's a government
Speaker 12: which has seemed more determined to demonize and abandon Israel
Speaker 12: and played domestic politics then deal with the crisis of
Speaker 12: social cohesion and anti Semitism which has fested on its watch.
Speaker 12: It's a situation which has gotten worse, not better. And
Speaker 12: now after fourteen months, we're at a crisis point and
Speaker 12: the Jewish community has been jumping up and down and
Speaker 12: warning the government throughout this period and it's not a
Speaker 12: surprise that we've now lunded up in a position like this,
Speaker 12: and the Jewish community is understandably very disappointed with the
Speaker 12: government and concerns about their safety.
Speaker 13: And well being.
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, all right, David Asib, president of the New
Speaker 2: South El's Jewish Board of Deputies, really appreciate your leadership
Speaker 2: of our community at this very difficult time.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Now still to come Global superstar Eden Golan, she was
Speaker 2: heckled at Eurovision. She joins me on the program. Plus
Speaker 2: Albanizi takes at NewsCorp as he tries to shift the
Speaker 2: blame for his week leadership. I'm going to speak about
Speaker 2: that with my political panel after this quick break.
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
Speaker 2: Well, let's bring in now Shadow Housing Minister Michael Sucker
Speaker 2: and Labour MP Daniel Melino.
Speaker 3: Welcome do you both.
Speaker 2: The Herald reports that Anthony Albinizi has told colleagues during
Speaker 2: a meeting that NewsCorp is openly working to back in
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton. So this seems to be the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: very clearly blaming the media for criticism of his own
Speaker 2: week leadership. It seems to be copying tactics used by
Speaker 2: his buddy Kevin Rudd, but he conveniently ignores the criticism
Speaker 2: from many other media outlets, including The Herald, and including
Speaker 2: The Knightly and The West Australian. Have a look at
Speaker 2: these front pages not ours, absolutely smashing Albanezi, especially in
Speaker 2: the wake of his shocking handling of anti Semitism.
Speaker 3: Daniel Maline, I want to start with you.
Speaker 2: Do you agree with the Prime Minister here that this
Speaker 2: is all a big news cop campaign to side with
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton.
Speaker 14: Well, Shari, Look, I always take stories based on leaks
Speaker 14: with a bit of a grain of salt, and I
Speaker 14: go back to the PM's actions rather than these purported words.
Speaker 14: He's appeared on various News Corp outlets, including Sky a
Speaker 14: significant number of times and indeed more than a number
Speaker 14: of competitor outlets. So look, he's engaged with News Corp
Speaker 14: throughout this term and before that, and I think just
Speaker 14: look at his actions. I think he's engaged very very broadly. Look,
Speaker 14: I think, as you say, you look right across the media.
Speaker 14: I mean, part of the job of the media is
Speaker 14: to hold the government to account. So I just think
Speaker 14: our job as members of the government is to engage,
Speaker 14: to explain what we're doing. And you know, I'm one
Speaker 14: of a number of backbenches who appears on this channel
Speaker 14: and engages with other NewsCorp outlets print and Electronics. So frankly, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: There aren't many Daniel Labor and ps who turn up.
Speaker 2: So good on you for that, Michael Suka. Should the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister be blaming the media for his pole leadership,
Speaker 2: particularly on this critical issue, Well, of course he shouldn't.
Speaker 13: And there's nothing more unedifying than a prime minister having
Speaker 13: asook about the media. The truth is that Anthony Albanezi's
Speaker 13: Prime ministership is crumbling, not through anything that the media
Speaker 13: has done, but through his own actions, through firstly his
Speaker 13: lies before the last election, the promises he made Australians
Speaker 13: before the last election that he can't keep his lack
Speaker 13: of focus when Australians are struggling and were struggling to rent,
Speaker 13: pay their mortgage, by their groceries. He was off on
Speaker 13: a frolic with his half a billion dollar referendum, and
Speaker 13: now we see probably the worst failure of leadership that
Speaker 13: we've probably seen from a national leader in living memory,
Speaker 13: and that is the shocking way in which the Australian
Speaker 13: Jewish community, quite frankly, has been thrown to the walls
Speaker 13: by this government and by this Prime Minister by decisions
Speaker 13: and votes the un by decisions and in action being
Speaker 13: made by the Cabinet, and most recently highlighted by the
Speaker 13: spectacle of a Prime Minister trying to talk down a
Speaker 13: domestic terrorism event that was very clear to everyone. I'm
Speaker 13: sure it was clear to Daniel who's a decent labor person,
Speaker 13: but he was unable to call that out instinctively in
Speaker 13: defense of Australian Jews. Because the truth is Anthony Albanese
Speaker 13: is not a leader. He doesn't have that instinctive ability
Speaker 13: to make the right cause. And you compare that to
Speaker 13: Peter Dutton. Peter Dutton is steadfast, he knows what he
Speaker 13: stands for. And I think it was a great example
Speaker 13: of contrasting a leader in Peter Dutton and a failed
Speaker 13: leader in Anthony Albanesi in the way they responded to.
Speaker 13: Peter called it out straight away, and the way in
Speaker 13: which the Austrangerer community has been treated by this government
Speaker 13: since seven has been appalling. And it falls on Anthony Albanezi,
Speaker 13: his choice of Foreign Minister in Penny Wong, who likens
Speaker 13: Israel to China and Russia. A democracy she likens to
Speaker 13: China and Russia. He's got a lear all of that,
Speaker 13: and he should be ashamed of himself and not in
Speaker 13: any way try to deflect responsibility by blaming the media.
Speaker 3: Very well, said Michael.
Speaker 2: Look, it does seem like we're in an election campaign
Speaker 2: mode now. The Prime Minister making this childcare announcement today,
Speaker 2: splashing four hundred and twenty seven million dollars to give
Speaker 2: family zonning up to half a million dollars a year
Speaker 2: access to the subsidy three days a week.
Speaker 3: Daniel, Is this money necessary? Is this just buying votes?
Speaker 13: Oh?
Speaker 14: Look, I think this is a really important area of reform.
Speaker 14: And we can go back to a Productivity Commission report
Speaker 14: in twenty fifteen that was actually commissioned and handed down
Speaker 14: under the previous government, and that Productivity Commission report found
Speaker 14: that these kinds of measures can be important for workforce participation,
Speaker 14: but they're also really important when it comes to young
Speaker 14: children's development and their preparation for school. It has really
Speaker 14: important impacts in terms of education and also their social development.
Speaker 14: And what this measure does is it provides much greater
Speaker 14: access for a broader range of families to these important services.
Speaker 14: This measure provides universal three day access, but it also
Speaker 14: provides important measures on the supply side. So it leads
Speaker 14: to the construction of one hundred and sixty new setters
Speaker 14: and twelve thousand extra spots.
Speaker 1: And the last thing I'll say on this.
Speaker 14: Is that this is another reform in a series of
Speaker 14: reforms in this space, many of which so far have
Speaker 14: dealt with the supply side. So we've added training investments
Speaker 14: to fee free tape to add to the workforce in
Speaker 14: this area. We've also undertaken a range of other measures,
Speaker 14: including I pay to attract workers to the area. A
Speaker 14: number of the supply side measures that we've undertaken in
Speaker 14: their space have been opposed by the opposition. So this
Speaker 14: is important reforms and I think it's a critical area
Speaker 14: of microeconomic reform.
Speaker 3: Very quickly, Michael, because we're out of time. Does the
Speaker 3: Coalition plan to match this announcement?
Speaker 13: Well, it's interesting that Daniel refers to the Productivity Commission.
Speaker 13: These proposal seeks to get rid of the activity test,
Speaker 13: which just means that parents who are working, or studying
Speaker 13: or volunteering, they are going to find it harder and
Speaker 13: harder to find places because with these new arrangements will
Speaker 13: see the existing existing centers being swamped with even more
Speaker 13: demand which they can't meet, which just means that Australian
Speaker 13: parents who are working, or studying or volunteering, I'm more
Speaker 13: likely to miss out. And we already know there are
Speaker 13: many people who are struggling to find places for their children.
Speaker 13: This will exacerbate that problem. And I think we'll see
Speaker 13: this between now in the election, a very desperate prime
Speaker 13: minister throwing money around left rn center in order to
Speaker 13: win votes, to try and detract or distract from the
Speaker 13: abysmal way in which this government has managed the economy
Speaker 13: and quite frankly, the abysmal way that this prime minister
Speaker 13: is leading the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is what economists are worrying about. Too
Speaker 2: much money splashed around pre election. Although of course there
Speaker 2: is the argument of productivity Daniel Malino, Michael Suga really
Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on tonight. Now coming up after the break,
Speaker 2: we turn to the US, which is gripped by this
Speaker 2: awful murder of the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, and
Speaker 2: somehow the killers being celebrated. I'll swe about that with
Speaker 2: Kosher Garda next, and later my exclusive with Israeli Eurovision
Speaker 2: singer Eden Golan, her thoughts on what we're going through,
Speaker 2: her message for battling the hate, don't miss that, and
Speaker 2: Sky News contributor Kosher Garda joins us.
Speaker 3: Now, Kosha, great to see you.
Speaker 2: Look, I want to ask you about the man chatged
Speaker 2: with the brazen murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Look,
Speaker 2: he's become Luigi Mangiorni. He's become some viral sensation. What
Speaker 2: is wrong with the world when a murderer is treated
Speaker 2: as a hero.
Speaker 8: You know, a great point, Shari, and I think it's
Speaker 8: a sign that we in many ways really have become
Speaker 8: a sick society, at least parts of society where somebody
Speaker 8: like this who did something that we haven't seen in
Speaker 8: a long time, like an actual assassination in broad daylight,
Speaker 8: Trump was obviously attempted but dodged it. But this actually
Speaker 8: was successful, and that to have a corporate CEO, which
Speaker 8: is not a typical target that you would expect or
Speaker 8: have seen historically. This is a very serious subject and
Speaker 8: for people to be talking about his looks, his physical profile,
Speaker 8: all of that is sick. And then there's also been
Speaker 8: this whole other strain of people who are heralding him
Speaker 8: as some sort of hero for taking out the CEO
Speaker 8: of a healthcare company because a lot of Americans are
Speaker 8: frustrated with the insurance system over there. This is obviously
Speaker 8: not the remedy for that. You've even seen people like
Speaker 8: Taylor Lorenz, who's a mainstream media reporter, was going on
Speaker 8: Piers Morgan.
Speaker 1: The other night cheering about it.
Speaker 8: I really think it's a sign of a sick society
Speaker 8: and something has to turn around, because this is not
Speaker 8: the appropriate response.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's utterly bsign.
Speaker 2: You worry it as well about the safety of other
Speaker 2: chief executives, and I'm sure there'll be others who would
Speaker 2: be thinking maybe they need security now on their way home,
Speaker 2: and that would be understandable kosher. Meanwhile, Daniel Penny found
Speaker 2: not guilty for the death of a homeless man on
Speaker 2: a New York City subway.
Speaker 8: Tell us about this, Yeah, so this is another It's
Speaker 8: almost like the flip side of the coin of the
Speaker 8: Luigi case that we just talked about.
Speaker 1: We're here.
Speaker 8: You have Daniel Penny, who was a former marine of
Speaker 8: the United States Marine Corps, a veteran, and he subdued
Speaker 8: somebody who was very aggressive, Jordan nearly on the subway
Speaker 8: through multiple witnesses who were saying that he was terror
Speaker 8: rising or menacing them. They were terrified for their lives. However,
Speaker 8: he Dane Openny, was charged and over the past year
Speaker 8: he's been awaiting his trial and the jury has spoken
Speaker 8: where they were not able to reach unanimous verdict of
Speaker 8: convicting him. I think this is a great day for
Speaker 8: the jury system and the administration of justice because nobody,
Speaker 8: based on the evidence, believed and certainly the jury didn't
Speaker 8: believe that the evidence stood up to the charge, which
Speaker 8: was reckless homicide. That the standard just wasn't met. But
Speaker 8: I will say it's worth mentioning that the fact that
Speaker 8: it came this close is quite scary because New York
Speaker 8: City is a place where crime has been up all
Speaker 8: sorts of people are not being charged or they're being
Speaker 8: given very generous plea deals, including Jordan Neelie himself being
Speaker 8: let out on the streets. And of course Alvin Bragg
Speaker 8: the DA is the same person who went after Trump
Speaker 8: decided to bring this case, whereas other people are going
Speaker 8: scott free. So it's a little bit of upside down world,
Speaker 8: and that's another problem that needs to be sorted out.
Speaker 3: Just very quickly.
Speaker 2: This isn't brand new today, but I just want to
Speaker 2: ask you what is that with the president elect release
Speaker 2: seeing his own perfume?
Speaker 3: What is this about? Why would you do this? Why
Speaker 3: does he need to do this?
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, he probably doesn't need to, but I
Speaker 8: have to say, it's like it's classic Trump, where he
Speaker 8: loves to seize the moment, even if he's somebody in
Speaker 8: a very serious position doing serious work.
Speaker 1: He sees us the moment.
Speaker 8: He loves to troll his opposition in his adversaries with
Speaker 8: the way he's marketed it. And you know, I wouldn't
Speaker 8: be surprised the man got seventy eight million votes. If
Speaker 8: even a good percentage of them decide to buy at
Speaker 8: this Christmas that it's going to challenge Chanelle number five,
Speaker 8: which is the most highest selling perfume of all time.
Speaker 1: This wil to be surprised if we see that.
Speaker 2: He continues to break them old of a politician anyway,
Speaker 2: it keeps things interesting.
Speaker 3: Koshagada, thank you so much. Really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Now, don't go anywhere. Global superstar Eden Golan. She overcame
Speaker 2: major security threats at Eurovision and now she has some
Speaker 2: advice on how to handle the haters. That interview is
Speaker 2: after this quick break. Well, most people may know Jewish
Speaker 2: singer Eden Golan from her incredible Eurovision performance this year.
Speaker 2: Her song Hurricane was a tribute to October seven. She
Speaker 2: was heckled bood and had major security threats. At just
Speaker 2: twenty one, Eden Golan has shown more leadership on anti Semitism,
Speaker 2: and she's demanded stronger action on the hostage crisis than
Speaker 2: most people whose job it is to do so. She
Speaker 2: sets a truly wonderful example for how to withstand the hate.
Speaker 2: And I spoke with her about all of this a
Speaker 2: little earlier. Eden Golan is so wonderful to have you here,
Speaker 2: a huge welcome. You've been here in Australia for a
Speaker 2: few days and I understand you're loving it and you're
Speaker 2: having a great time. You also, of course, couldn't help
Speaker 2: but notice that experiencing shocking anti semitism, the fire bombing
Speaker 2: of a synagogue in Melbourne that's now been officially declared
Speaker 2: a terror attack, and then just here in Sydney overnight
Speaker 2: there's been a car torching and more anti Semitic vandalism.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about this level of antisemitism that
Speaker 2: we've seen erupting around the world, including in peaceful places
Speaker 2: like Australia.
Speaker 1: It's tragic, It's truly tragic and.
Speaker 15: Heartbreaking, and I just don't want to accept this reality,
Speaker 15: this dark, scary place we're living in, and literally any
Speaker 15: place in this world right now could be a place
Speaker 15: of threat and danger for us, which is crazy.
Speaker 3: To think about it.
Speaker 15: But I'm truly I'm so thankful for all the volunteers
Speaker 15: and here the CSG, there's a really security community Jewish
Speaker 15: community that takes care of the Jewish community and keeps
Speaker 15: people safe, and volunteers all over the world that take
Speaker 15: part in this and keeping our community as safe as
Speaker 15: possible and trying to stay away from these uh unpleasant situations.
Speaker 2: We all watched you during Eurovision and you were heckled
Speaker 2: on stage, you were booed, you were trying to focus
Speaker 2: and do your job. I mean, how did you personally
Speaker 2: manage to drown out that level of noise and that
Speaker 2: level of hostility to deliver what was truly a sensational performance.
Speaker 1: Well that wasn't an easy experience.
Speaker 3: I can't lie.
Speaker 15: I definitely I mentally prepared myself to the event way before.
Speaker 15: From the moment I was selected to be Israel's representative
Speaker 15: for your vision, I was drawing myself scenarios and different
Speaker 15: situations that could happen, and getting.
Speaker 1: Boodh at and hatred and all of that.
Speaker 15: But I think mainly the thing that kept me focused
Speaker 15: and on point was just a the life. I've been through,
Speaker 15: different situations and going through difficult things in life. That
Speaker 15: kind of built me to have elephant skin and not
Speaker 15: really let anything around me affect me.
Speaker 1: And also my goal, which was to.
Speaker 15: Represent us with pride and do the best job I can.
Speaker 15: I had a lot of weight on my shoulders to
Speaker 15: be the voice of not only a country, but an
Speaker 15: entire nation, and just that thought, that responsibility, that's all
Speaker 15: I cared about.
Speaker 1: I didn't care about anything around.
Speaker 15: I was just there to go on stage for three minutes,
Speaker 15: show my voice and try to unite people and spread
Speaker 15: some love. And I can truly say that our community,
Speaker 15: our big family of Jewish people and israelis all over
Speaker 15: the world. The amount of love and support I got
Speaker 15: from them, it was truly insane, and I could never
Speaker 15: thank them enough. There were such such a powerful thing
Speaker 15: that kept me going through this journey, and still the
Speaker 15: amount of love I'm getting to this day, it just
Speaker 15: keeps me going and makes me want to do even
Speaker 15: more for.
Speaker 1: Us and for this world, and just show what a
Speaker 1: beautiful nation we are.
Speaker 2: Such a beautiful message that your ambition to spread love
Speaker 2: like that, And I love when you said you have
Speaker 2: elephant skin. I think we need a bit of elephant
Speaker 2: skin during the times we're going through at the moment.
Speaker 1: Definitely now.
Speaker 2: The formerly your most famous song, Hurricane, the original version
Speaker 2: was actually called October Rain.
Speaker 3: You had to change the lyrics for Eurovision.
Speaker 2: How did it make you feel when you were told
Speaker 2: that this would need to be done, that you couldn't
Speaker 2: reference the October seven terror attacks.
Speaker 15: Even before I got selected to represent your vision, we
Speaker 15: knew that whoever was going to get selected was going
Speaker 15: to get a lot of backlash and a lot of hatred,
Speaker 15: and that many people didn't want us there, didn't want
Speaker 15: us to participate, didn't want us to take part in
Speaker 15: the Eurovision Song Artists this year. So let me put
Speaker 15: it this, I wasn't shocked when the song wasn't accepted
Speaker 15: and we were told.
Speaker 1: We need to change the lyrics.
Speaker 15: I was like, okay, well my thoughts. You proved me
Speaker 15: right that you don't really want us there. And it
Speaker 15: wasn't even a question. I was just like, let's get
Speaker 15: into the studio, let's change the lyrics. Let's do everything
Speaker 15: in our power to make this work and make us
Speaker 15: be able to participate and stand there on stage and
Speaker 15: represent our country.
Speaker 2: Such a powerful, moving, emotional song, and it it speaks
Speaker 2: to everyone. I actually came to Israel for the anniversary
Speaker 2: of October seven, and for many of the people I
Speaker 2: spoke to, many of the survivors, or understandably, people who
Speaker 2: still have family who being held hostage, it's just impossible
Speaker 2: to move on until the hostages.
Speaker 3: Are brought home.
Speaker 2: For many people, for many Israelis, it still feels like
Speaker 2: it's October seven all over again.
Speaker 3: Every day. That's the reality they wake up to.
Speaker 2: What are your reflections on how our world has changed
Speaker 2: over the past fourteen months.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't think.
Speaker 15: The world will ever be the same place after October seventh,
Speaker 15: and definitely for our country and our people, this is
Speaker 15: something that will be with us forever and something we'll
Speaker 15: never be able to forget. And I don't think anyone
Speaker 15: should ever experience what we went through, and the fact
Speaker 15: that we still have hostages after such a long time
Speaker 15: held hostage is just it's like, what this shouldn't be
Speaker 15: the reality. This shouldn't be what we're going through. This
Speaker 15: shouldn't be real, and we should be doing everything to
Speaker 15: bring them back home. So I can definitely understand and
Speaker 15: I feel the people that for us, it's October seventh
Speaker 15: every day and life will never be the same after
Speaker 15: what we went through. And I do think it had
Speaker 15: a huge effect on the world and people all over
Speaker 15: the world, especially on us. It has changed a lot
Speaker 15: of things, and I'm just hoping that things can also
Speaker 15: change the other way to a better place.
Speaker 1: And that we can bring the hospitals back home and
Speaker 1: just have a bit more peace and love in this world.
Speaker 2: We desperately need it desperately needed. I just finally Eden.
Speaker 2: You know, as I said, you're an inspiration to all
Speaker 2: of us. You connect particularly strongly with the young generation
Speaker 2: in Australia and in Israel. Many children are doing it
Speaker 2: really tough right now, suffering from anxiety, They're scared about
Speaker 2: the future.
Speaker 3: What's your message to children?
Speaker 1: Wow? I actually wrote a song about that.
Speaker 15: My latest song literally speaks about that, about children being
Speaker 15: older than they should be and not being able to
Speaker 15: fully live life happily and be out in the gardens dreaming,
Speaker 15: and they have anxiety and fears about the future and
Speaker 15: what will happen and what will be And the children
Speaker 15: in our country that have to run to bomb shelters
Speaker 15: because of sirens.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 15: The one thing I can say is that we are
Speaker 15: strong and we have each other, and I'm Israel Hi
Speaker 15: and I'm israel is strong, and we will get through this,
Speaker 15: through all this horrible period of time. And I just
Speaker 15: hope everyone has something that can keep them going through.
Speaker 15: For me, it's music, and I do music to heal
Speaker 15: myself and to heal people through music.
Speaker 1: And if playing music and listening to my music helps anyone,
Speaker 1: that's the best thing.
Speaker 15: And finding just a safe place and our surroundings and
Speaker 15: friends and family. That's that's all we have right now,
Speaker 15: and that's the most we can do.
Speaker 1: Is just love each other and spread it.
Speaker 2: Such a beautiful message. I can't thank you enough for
Speaker 2: sharing it with us here in Australia.
Speaker 3: Eden. All our love to you.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for standing tall and proud and strong.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for having
Speaker 2: me all right. I see you tomorrow for my final
Speaker 2: show of the year. Here's James McPherson.