WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 3 April

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<v Speaker 1>From the sky Center. This is Paul Murray Live sang

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<v Speaker 1>your Rockstar, Welcome the man Cave.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on in.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do a winner and Loser of the week in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment or two time. Can I be very clear

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<v Speaker 1>off the star. I don't care that the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>fell over today.

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<v Speaker 3>Photos with everyone, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I repeat, I do not care that Anthony Albanezi fell

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<v Speaker 1>over today. Human beings trip, we fall, we're clumsy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in the old days. We used to be

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<v Speaker 1>called UNCO. In fact, the Australian Institute of ruled me

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<v Speaker 1>to be an UNCO, which is why I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>able to compete in sport. What I kind of do

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<v Speaker 1>care about, though, is that the Prime Minister is well lying,

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<v Speaker 1>and he lies about many many things, but he's even

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<v Speaker 1>lying about whether he fell over today. This was the

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<v Speaker 1>live blog that was existing I think on the Citney

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Herald in the age. There you go watch PM

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<v Speaker 1>falls off stage. Next update, PM says he didn't fall

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<v Speaker 1>off stage. This is what he told an interviewer on

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC in Newcastle this afternoon. Remember I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>that he fell off. I truly don't. Human beings do

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<v Speaker 1>it Julia Gillard famously did it. Oh, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that tape. That would be wrong, that would be too much.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he was asked about it, he pretended it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I stepped back one step.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't fall off the stage.

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<v Speaker 5>Leg went down, but I was sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay again, I don't care. But he fell off the

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<v Speaker 1>freaking stage. Okay, two seconds, got back up. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a metaphor for politics, but him lying about it is

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute sign that if you can't tell the truth

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<v Speaker 1>about even falling over, then how can you trust him

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<v Speaker 1>on everything else? Like I really care about cost of living.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, people of the center left and people

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<v Speaker 1>like Albo truly think that they have the powers of

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<v Speaker 1>Obi Wan Kenobi to have a Jedi mind trick against

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<v Speaker 1>the week to make you forget what's pretty obvious when

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<v Speaker 1>you see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see your identification.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to see his identification.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need to see his identification.

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<v Speaker 1>These aren't the droids you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had the droid. We're lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Before he can go about his business, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>about your best move alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah ah.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to drive home the point that sometimes they

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<v Speaker 1>actually do think that they have Jedi powers. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a meme that Labour put up during the last election

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<v Speaker 1>May the Fourth which is as in, may the Force

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<v Speaker 1>be with you, but may the Fourth be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually did him up as a Jedi Knight. He

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<v Speaker 1>does not have the power to change people's minds, but

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks I did not fall off the stage. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, just make a joke. Oh look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the most rest I've had this campaign. But this Jedi

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<v Speaker 1>mind trick is one that he has tried to use

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<v Speaker 1>for three years that he didn't promise of the last

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<v Speaker 1>election that and I quote, a Labor government will lower

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of living because then he'd have to be

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<v Speaker 1>held accountable for the cost of living going nuts and

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<v Speaker 1>he would have to be held accountable for it going

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<v Speaker 1>nuts and sending people broke. Now, I was amused to

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<v Speaker 1>see how he's a Pratorian guard in the six pm news. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how are they going to deal with this, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know they love a picture and these are the best

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<v Speaker 1>pictures you can possibly have. Again, it doesn't matter, but

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<v Speaker 1>how did they do it? Over at Channel nine.

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<v Speaker 4>Even the most familiar surrounds can be slippery the Prime minister'

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<v Speaker 4>stumbling from the stage before bouncing back to cheers from

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<v Speaker 4>mining workers in the New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter bouncing back the metaphor that he can't keep a

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<v Speaker 1>good man down Channel seven in Melbourne, though they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of took an egg beater to it.

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<v Speaker 6>Good evening, the Prime Minister is lucky to have avoided

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<v Speaker 6>serious injury after taking a major tumble on the campaign trail.

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<v Speaker 6>Anthony Albanizi was posing for photos when he fell off

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<v Speaker 6>a platform this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Just just one last time, I do not care that

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister fell over today. Thirty days to go

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<v Speaker 1>in this election, the end of the first of five

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<v Speaker 1>weeks campaigning. It's not just thirty days to go. More importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen days until the first votes are cast, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>your state, depending on whether you're private or public. School

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<v Speaker 1>holidays kick in as early as next week, so the

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<v Speaker 1>cover of look over There is going to be very

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<v Speaker 1>big with an awful lot of people. But as always

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to tell you what happened during the day

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<v Speaker 1>rather than just what the six per News decided was

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<v Speaker 1>the most important thing to talk about, including the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister's brush with death. As it was tonight on Channel seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, Verdi. Petty Dunnen was in Western Australia today where,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things, they made a major announcement I think

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<v Speaker 1>about six hundred million dollars for regional roads. And as

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<v Speaker 1>a person who at least once a month is out

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<v Speaker 1>there doing our town country roads are shockers. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a promise that if there's a Dutton government they'll do

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<v Speaker 1>something about it.

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<v Speaker 7>An elected coalition government will fund a new program to

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<v Speaker 7>the tune of six hundred million dollars over the next

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<v Speaker 7>four years to support the supply chains for our agriculture

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<v Speaker 7>mining industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Just me, I love when she wears the suits. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a very fashionable young lady. All right, let's keep going

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<v Speaker 1>here with the Prime Minister. And he today was in

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<v Speaker 1>the Hunter Valley of New South Wales making a whole

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<v Speaker 1>series of half announcements re announcements. That was him in

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria in fact, where he started off the day. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he made his way out and about today, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to respond to Trump. I'll get to that in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of protesters along the way, and as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>the media lover protester more than a story for.

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<v Speaker 8>A new CONCAF company WANs on the line, I have

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<v Speaker 8>a safe place to say flight children.

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<v Speaker 1>Now these people are posing as journalists, which means they're

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<v Speaker 1>able to get close enough to the Prime minister. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I love most about this country is

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of who the Prime minister is, regardless of whether

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<v Speaker 1>they are standing or falling, which again I don't care about,

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<v Speaker 1>is that we have very close proximity. There's not the

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<v Speaker 1>huge rings of security. But it's going to get pretty

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<v Speaker 1>tough to be around these leaders in the next little while,

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<v Speaker 1>because they obviously want to invite people from new media along.

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<v Speaker 1>But these people are using that to get close enough

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to cause the disturbances that they currently are.

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<v Speaker 1>Also not particularly classy, and you're not really taking the

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<v Speaker 1>high ground when you're screaming in a hospital ward about

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<v Speaker 1>the future of the planet. Meantime, as we know, next

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<v Speaker 1>week the first of the leader's debates. It happens here

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<v Speaker 1>on Sky News and it's the best of them. Why

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not really about the leaders. It's definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>about the journalists. Is of course the People's Forum were

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred apparently undecided voters. While they get to ask

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they want of the Prime Minister or the prospective

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister. That's next Tuesday night in primetime here on

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<v Speaker 1>Sky News. A week later Wednesday night in primetime on

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC and no doubt simulcast here on Sky News

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<v Speaker 1>is that there will be a face to face studio debate,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently the first time since nineteen ninety three that both

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<v Speaker 1>leaders have been in an ABC studio and our old

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<v Speaker 1>mate Speersy will be the one who will be calling

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<v Speaker 1>the balls and strikes in the middle of that. Meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>the treasurers have confirmed that they too are going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a debate. It'll be here Sky News primetime Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>of next week, so the day after the People's Forum,

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<v Speaker 1>and the climate ministers will be having a debate as well.

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<v Speaker 1>This one will be at the National Press Club where

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt Chris Bowen will be playing a home game.

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<v Speaker 1>But the debates are starting, which is good and nightly.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at how the media spun it for the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister did their best to give the benefit of the

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<v Speaker 1>doubt to the Labour Party. No giant surprise there, but

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<v Speaker 1>guess what. Plenty more examples again. I'll get to the

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<v Speaker 1>trump of it all in a moment or two time,

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<v Speaker 1>but the soft questions. They were soft for the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>minister today for the Greek quess iemon, I'm on the

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<v Speaker 1>road and you run out of these things as you do.

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<v Speaker 9>Indeed, I mean you're so relief, right, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 9>is the best case scenario that we worked toys. Can

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<v Speaker 9>you promise that you're next tent?

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<v Speaker 10>If you are lucky enough to be successful enough to related, you.

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<v Speaker 11>Could stabilize this relationship with the United States even you've got.

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<v Speaker 1>A minimum ten percent?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you consider that a relatively good deal or the

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<v Speaker 3>best we have got?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you buy toothpaste? Push the big issues? Meantime?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the ride that they were giving to Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Dutton today? A little different?

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<v Speaker 9>Are you too easily dismissing what five hundred dollars could

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<v Speaker 9>do to a family in a couple of years time?

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<v Speaker 12>So six hundred millions, as nice as a number as

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<v Speaker 12>it is, builds three hundred kilometers of road right around

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<v Speaker 12>the country. It's a nice number, but it's not a

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<v Speaker 12>big solution.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's plenty of carry. And how you would approach

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any stick?

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<v Speaker 9>You've been criticized by Collie residents though for not having

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<v Speaker 9>a discuss with them and hearing their concerns about nuclear power.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the people who sends the signals to

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<v Speaker 1>the media about how to play is old mate nasty

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<v Speaker 1>Nikki Sava that he self admitted liar about how she

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<v Speaker 1>used to do things as a journalist, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>puts the books together, no doubt, she's already got half

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<v Speaker 1>of one written thanks to mates like the bloke in

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<v Speaker 1>the Pink House, about how terrible Peter Dutton is. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>remember she's the one who's already said and this was

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<v Speaker 1>when the polls were not very good for Anthony Abernezi.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's going to have fun walking this one back

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<v Speaker 1>that regardless of what happens at the election, Albanzi should

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the way hand over to the next generation.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder whether that will continue to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course she's all about hating Peter Dutton, and

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<v Speaker 1>today wakey Wakey Dunton looks shaky her review of the

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<v Speaker 1>first week and the alternative prime Minister who she will

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<v Speaker 1>not let get out of first gear. Remember we even

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<v Speaker 1>discussed immigration was racist. According to these people, he sounded

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<v Speaker 1>flat He's looked flat footed and seeming it seemed woefully

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<v Speaker 1>unprepared for a fight that he knew was coming on

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<v Speaker 1>a territory that he should already staked out. Meanwhile, Albanizi

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<v Speaker 1>has performed better and Labor has prepared better for the contest.

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<v Speaker 1>Even handed journalism give all the awards now. Dutton has

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<v Speaker 1>also winged that Albanezi has wedged a sledgeth on against him.

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<v Speaker 1>He sounds like a school bully. See see he's a

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<v Speaker 1>school bully, just like Turble. He's a thug. See how

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<v Speaker 1>they all kind of rally around the same words, complaining

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<v Speaker 1>to the teacher that one of the kids that he

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<v Speaker 1>has punched him in the nose, the one that he

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<v Speaker 1>picked on in the past. Anyway, he better tough enough,

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<v Speaker 1>because Labor will not stop it's mission, especially in Victoria,

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<v Speaker 1>where Labor stinks, is to make him unacceptable. Labor could

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<v Speaker 1>maintain the status quo in every other state, then lose

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<v Speaker 1>the election in a state once seen as a stronghold.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about Victoria and I'll tell you why that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case in a moment of two his time, but

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<v Speaker 1>her partner in crime, remember the one who was also

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<v Speaker 1>worried that a ban on foreign buyers was going to

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<v Speaker 1>result in apparently different looking people don't know what that means,

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<v Speaker 1>will be attacked by evil racist, presumably white Australians. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>lefty Laura Tingle, Well, she used her platform there on

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC, which is an absolutely independent journalist, and remember

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<v Speaker 1>to criticize her is bad for the national debate. She

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<v Speaker 1>did a thing last night about cost of living where

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<v Speaker 1>she was trying a little bit of revisionist history that

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<v Speaker 1>put simply none of it's elbows fault, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that again three years ago, the promise was he'd make

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<v Speaker 1>it better. It's all got worse. None. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>these were some of the insights.

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<v Speaker 13>While they're not really blaming the government, there's not baseball

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<v Speaker 13>bats out for them. There is some ownership of the economy,

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<v Speaker 13>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no connection between the federal government and cost of living,

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<v Speaker 1>and she found this very helpful polster to give an

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<v Speaker 1>insight into the best case or the half glass full.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, she had to criticize the opposition because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's even handed.

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<v Speaker 10>The Urban Ezy government has introduced a range of policies

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<v Speaker 10>to try to ease the cost of living. The Coalition opposed,

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<v Speaker 10>or at least criticized many of these measures, arguing government

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<v Speaker 10>spending was keeping interest rates higher for longer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know those things that even polls in the Guardian

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<v Speaker 1>show that five dollars in fifteen months doesn't touch the sides.

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<v Speaker 1>The two little too tax cuts last year that were

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<v Speaker 1>twelve dollars for people on forty thousand dollars doesn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>change anything. And paying twenty five dollars to power companies

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<v Speaker 1>to make it look like power bills are stabilizing doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually make up for a promise that by this time

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<v Speaker 1>they were supposed to be two hundred and seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars cheaper. But sorry, you're in the middle of a rant.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you got anything more from that? Polster?

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<v Speaker 13>If this selection is a referendum on Labour's performance over

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<v Speaker 13>the last three years on cost of living, then they're

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<v Speaker 13>in a bit of trouble. What they will want to

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<v Speaker 13>do is make it about change and make it about

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<v Speaker 13>Peter Dunnan and will he make a difference? And that's

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<v Speaker 13>where they've got hope, because there isn't a great amount

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<v Speaker 13>of hope that changing government would necessarily change things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and the economy is not really a government thing,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that it was a real thing three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. But that guy just got my brain ticking.

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<v Speaker 1>Where where have I seen him before? Where I do

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<v Speaker 1>I know of him before?

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<v Speaker 12>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, we have to go back to the Keven

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<v Speaker 1>oh seven days where he is one of the consultants

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<v Speaker 1>who's checking the electorate's mood for the Labor Party. He

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<v Speaker 1>also was apparently one of the people involved in the

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<v Speaker 1>Keven oh seven campaign, you know, absolutely independent person to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to tell us that cost a living well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of everyone's problem, not the government that has

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<v Speaker 1>promised to make it better, but it's all worse. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk Trump and Liberation Day in the Rose Garden

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<v Speaker 1>in the White House. You know the story. By now,

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<v Speaker 1>tariffs are going to be put on friend and foe

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<v Speaker 1>Australia thankfully ten percent bottom of the list. It is

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent on five percent of our global exports. Not

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<v Speaker 1>unimportant and very important for our farmers, but not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the Australian economy and a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a fizzer because the media has been building this

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<v Speaker 1>one up for weeks.

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<v Speaker 13>Tariffs tariffs, tariffs, tariffs, tariffs, tariff terriffs, tariffs are tariffs, tariffs,

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<v Speaker 13>tariff tariffs, tariff tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Tariff because remember this bloke, if he runs on his

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<v Speaker 1>own record, might get a little bit wobbly. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>he fell off a stage today again, I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about that. But instead there were going to be new tariffs,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were going to be mega tariffs, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to come after the pharmaceutical benefit scheme. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>the stories that were around for weeks. Healthcare is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be attacked by evil Orange Man. The pharmaceutical benefit

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<v Speaker 1>scheme meaning cheaper drugs. This will be the focus of

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<v Speaker 1>an evil Trump. Don't forget. Musk and big Tech are

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<v Speaker 1>urging Trump to punish Australia instead. Again not insignificant, ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent on five percent of our overall exports, not insignificant,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the end, compared to other countries, we copped

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<v Speaker 1>a tap, not a kick.

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<v Speaker 14>Australia bans and they're wonderful people and wonderful everything, but

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<v Speaker 14>they ban American beef. Yet we imported three billion dollars

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<v Speaker 14>of Australian beef from them just last year alone. They

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<v Speaker 14>won't take any of our beef.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you know by now ten percent largely going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in and around Australian beef okay. But again

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<v Speaker 1>to put this into context and all of that hype

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<v Speaker 1>which is all about trying to save Anthony Abernezi from

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<v Speaker 1>his own record and trying to move the federal election

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<v Speaker 1>to being a referendum on Donald Trump because the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of Australians don't like Donald Trump. Well, it's here, but

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<v Speaker 1>in context, again, it is significant. I'm not pretending that

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<v Speaker 1>it is not. But if the overall countries that we

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<v Speaker 1>export to, if randomly a ten cent tariff was put

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<v Speaker 1>in place, say calling a country out for being the

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<v Speaker 1>potential origin, if not definite, origin of a flu that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up killing millions of people and shutting the country

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<v Speaker 1>down for two years, that would be significant, right, Because

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<v Speaker 1>China is the place where we send the most stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It is thirty two percent of all of our exports

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<v Speaker 1>at two hundred and nineteen billion. Japan is a thirteen percent,

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<v Speaker 1>Korea is it six percent, India is at five percent,

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<v Speaker 1>the US is at five percent. Meantime, the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we do send to the United States, so yeah, ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent extra on meat, on some but not all, of

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<v Speaker 1>our precious stones and metal because gold is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be involved in this because you know, there's all

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<v Speaker 1>those podcasts adds about gold in the United States, medical

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<v Speaker 1>tech that's two billion dollars. Pharmaceutical products that's less than

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<v Speaker 1>two billion dollars and one billion dollars worth of machinery. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not agree, do not support. This is ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>that Australia is going to end up getting a tax

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<v Speaker 1>put upon us. It is just as ridiculous, but perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>not quite as much as what China did to us

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years. But sh don't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that Orange man worse than President z Well. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>that America claims that they are able to put a

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent tariff on us is because, well, we have

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<v Speaker 1>little ways of charging things that are brought into this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're not tariffs, but there is a charge. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to export something from a country and import

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<v Speaker 1>it into this country, there is a ten percent tax,

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<v Speaker 1>a consumption tax on all of those things that are

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<v Speaker 1>brought into the country. If you want to buy a

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<v Speaker 1>car worth eighty grand or more from the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have to pay luxury car tax. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't an Australian car industry. And then, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what it is there's those little excise taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the ones that could be about everything from

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<v Speaker 1>petrol to tobacco, to beer, to spirits, to textiles, to

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<v Speaker 1>passenger motor vehicles to footwear, and those get forty three

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars from the Australian government each and every year.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is a tectonic day. The number of journalists

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<v Speaker 1>that I've heard today what a wild? What's wild? I

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<v Speaker 1>totally disagree with the tariffs being put in place. I

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<v Speaker 1>am absolutely aware of the consequences that they will have

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<v Speaker 1>for our beef farmers in particular. I am not minimizing

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<v Speaker 1>that in any way, shape or form. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>this was about trying to put Donald Trump heart and

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<v Speaker 1>center of the federal election campaign. So here was the

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<v Speaker 1>reaction across the gamut. Let me be clear, they are

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<v Speaker 1>totally unwarranted. The world has changed as of today. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a bad day for our country.

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<v Speaker 15>This is a poor decision.

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<v Speaker 1>This was an announcement which is very disappointing.

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<v Speaker 16>Now, these escalating trade tensions do cast a dark shadow

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<v Speaker 16>over the global economy.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the White House, they say, lie back and

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<v Speaker 1>think of Washington.

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<v Speaker 8>My advice to every country right now is do not retaliate,

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<v Speaker 8>sit back, take it in, let's see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 8>Because if you retaliate, there will be escalation if you

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<v Speaker 8>don't retaliate. This is the high water mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Thankfully there were plenty of even handed, non political

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<v Speaker 1>people who were out there to tell us that despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the tax is to be paid by

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<v Speaker 1>going into America, therefore the cost of it goes up

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<v Speaker 1>in America, it will be us in Australia who will

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay more.

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<v Speaker 7>These tariffs are going to have a big impact, especially

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<v Speaker 7>on our struggling producers out west.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Of course, you know again, I'm glad that we

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<v Speaker 1>have these non partisan people who are out and about.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and by the way, help me out how this works. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>according to those that are starting to guess, the Reserve

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<v Speaker 1>Bank next meeting, which will not happen during the election

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<v Speaker 1>campaign but will happen after the election campaign, will be

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<v Speaker 1>one of apparently up to four cuts in rates that

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<v Speaker 1>will happen as a result of the global tariffs. So

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<v Speaker 1>help me out. Is it good or is it banned?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about China because yes, they punished Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because we wanted an investigation into the Wu flu that,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, killed millions, shut down the world. But

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to see there, right, And of course if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't bring up such unpleasantness with the Chinese government, well

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<v Speaker 1>they'll call you a handsome boy, won't they. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course they'll get rid of silly tariffs that they put

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<v Speaker 1>in place. When it came to things like wine. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>when there was like a two hundred and something, it

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<v Speaker 1>was somehow Australia's fault and Australian media was blaming. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course when it's Trump anyway, who can follow the

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<v Speaker 1>logic here? But one thing that absolute changed was that

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese diaspora one point four million people in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of a connection back to China. They

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<v Speaker 1>had previously in the twenty twenty, twenty nineteen election, twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen, and I think even in the twenty ten

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<v Speaker 1>election had largely backed in the Liberal Party seats like

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<v Speaker 1>ben Along or seats like Red, places like Chisen. They

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<v Speaker 1>kind of come and go, but the message was sent

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<v Speaker 1>launded through Chinese propaganda. The Libs were evil, terrible, must

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of them. This was one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why they lost a collection of seats and why the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party has been trying to work its way back

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<v Speaker 1>to form some sort of a relationship with Chinese voters.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll all find out if it works together. Keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on places again, as I say, like Benolong. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of ways that people get their news,

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<v Speaker 1>and plenty of people that the diaspora get their news from. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be something that the Australian media cared about,

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<v Speaker 1>but now they don't. I wonder that's because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>political outcome that they like. But what used to be

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<v Speaker 1>the old newspapers is now all online and much of

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<v Speaker 1>that information again gets washed through bad actors who are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do the bidding of the Chinese Communist Party.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't talk about that. Of course, TikTok, the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>surveillance app, which is banned on all government devices, unless,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's a labor MP who wants to do

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<v Speaker 1>a silly dance, then it's really important. But then there

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<v Speaker 1>are other ways like we chat, which remember Scott Morrison

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<v Speaker 1>got censored on before the last election. No completely free

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<v Speaker 1>speech app. And then there's this new one which is

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<v Speaker 1>even worse than TikTok, called red Note. But it's new

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<v Speaker 1>and it tells me I've got seven trillion followers and

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<v Speaker 1>every video I post is viewed by nine billion people.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's good for when I go to advertisers and

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<v Speaker 1>say please give me money because I'm a massive influencer.

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<v Speaker 1>Well Cricket of the Turbul Times The Guardian today they

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<v Speaker 1>had an exclusive story about some of the crap that

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<v Speaker 1>is being fed to some parts of that one point

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<v Speaker 1>four million people who will vote at this upcoming election. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>lots disinformation experts have accused migration agents of sharing false

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<v Speaker 1>information about Anthony Aberineese and Peter dutt On the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>social media app Red Note to win clients, including claims

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<v Speaker 1>that Australia is turned wicked and is actively targeting Chinese people.

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<v Speaker 1>One photoshopped image published by a migration consultancy earlier this

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<v Speaker 1>month carried the headline Australia's turned wicked targeting tens of

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of Chinese people with a picture of the current

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<v Speaker 1>Prime minister. The post falsely claimed that the Albenese government

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<v Speaker 1>had proposed very controversial plan to expel non citizens to

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<v Speaker 1>a third nation, which would affect Chinese Australians and their families.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, there is no such plan. Another one on

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<v Speaker 1>February twenty eight, posted by a migration agency based in China,

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<v Speaker 1>splash the headline that Australia is officially announcing to cancel

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<v Speaker 1>citizenship with a picture of Peter Dutton. Nothing to see here. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was the Russians, it would be called elect

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<v Speaker 1>interference because clearly not much happens in Russia without the

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<v Speaker 1>say so of the government. If it's China, we just

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<v Speaker 1>pretend it's not an interference in our elections. One that

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<v Speaker 1>was successful last time. Will it be so again? Well

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<v Speaker 1>we'll all have to find out together, won't we. All

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I want to talk about not just whether

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<v Speaker 1>leaders have been today, but at a moment we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a chat to somebody from the Kid's helpline.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want you to see about who's playing defense

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<v Speaker 1>and who's playing attack at the moment. The seats that

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Dutton has gone to in the first week of

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<v Speaker 1>this campaign. He has gone to Bruce Brisbane, Corwell, his

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<v Speaker 1>own in Dixon where we had the pup test on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>the seat of Hawk Hume, Latrobe, Marianoa, McEwen McMahon Melbourne, Morton, Patterson,

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<v Speaker 1>Bullwinkle Forest, majority of those held by the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on attack. But the bloke is apparently winning this

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<v Speaker 1>election is playing an awful lot of defense because he

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<v Speaker 1>went to Boothby Labor seat, Canberra Labor seating, My labor seat,

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<v Speaker 1>Dixon attack seat, Eden Manero labor seat, has like a

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<v Speaker 1>labor seat, Hinkler l NP seat, Laylor labor seats, Sturt

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal seat, Wills labor seat, Hunter labor seat as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is the guy who's winning playing so much defense? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, maybe he's not. I care about our kids

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<v Speaker 1>like you do, because not just future of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're they're the most important people in our families,

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<v Speaker 1>right because they are the ones that will carry on

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<v Speaker 1>all of the different traditions that we have. And I

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<v Speaker 1>got two little kids in primary school. You've got kids, grandkids, nieces, nephews.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we care about our kids. And the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I constantly come back to on this program is

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<v Speaker 1>the kids are not all right, and no, just a

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<v Speaker 1>swift kick in the barman a, you know, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days off the video games, or a spoonful of

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<v Speaker 1>concrete and they'll harden up. It's not going to fix

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<v Speaker 1>things a lot of complicated reasons, but every now and

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<v Speaker 1>then a little flare goes up about just how bad

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<v Speaker 1>kids are doing it. Yesterday I told you the report

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<v Speaker 1>that came out of the Kid's Helpline. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>really special service, and I want you to memorize the

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<v Speaker 1>number one hundred double five, one hundred one one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>au if you prefer to do things digitally or text.

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy Adams is the CEO of your town. They're the

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<v Speaker 1>people who run this incredible service and we absolutely love

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<v Speaker 1>what they do. Tracy, nice to see you. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>that the numbers are going up. It's a sign that

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<v Speaker 1>our kids are not all right, and it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>always moves me every time. And these numbers are now

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<v Speaker 1>even higher than we were in and around the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy four six hundred and sixty counseling sessions or interactions.

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<v Speaker 1>That's two hundred kids a day.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, that's right. I think we are concerned about the

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<v Speaker 11>rising number of serious concerns that young people are contacting

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<v Speaker 11>us about, but we should also be very proud of

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<v Speaker 11>young people recognizing where to go for help and reaching

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<v Speaker 11>out for help because that of with some very serious

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<v Speaker 11>crisis situations.

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<v Speaker 1>I also like that in a time of darkness, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to head your way. And that's why I want

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<v Speaker 1>that number just drilled in, right, Like my kids are

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<v Speaker 1>aware of it, right. I don't know if they've ever

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<v Speaker 1>called it or whatever. It's their business if they wish

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<v Speaker 1>to write. But you've got to have something and someone

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the family, outside of the friends, who you

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<v Speaker 1>may be able to offload with, who might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to turn you away from the worst possible moments, because,

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<v Speaker 1>as we saw in the report, thirty nine percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons for calling was because that attempted suicide or

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<v Speaker 1>some are very close to it. Thirty percent child abuse

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<v Speaker 1>and problems when it comes to their mental health. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me an idea about the intensity of the interactions, about

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<v Speaker 1>how serious the interactions are.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, those numbers that you just shared reflect when our

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<v Speaker 11>counselors have to decide that a young person is at

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<v Speaker 11>imminent harm. So we have about eighty nine of those

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<v Speaker 11>crisis interventions week, So their number one priority is right

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<v Speaker 11>in that moment, let's keep this young person as safe

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<v Speaker 11>and as we can possibly make them, while another part

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<v Speaker 11>of our team will help get in contact with police,

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<v Speaker 11>ambulance or child protection services. But in every interaction, the

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<v Speaker 11>child is our number one priority and those young children

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<v Speaker 11>they're presenting at that time at high risk of very

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<v Speaker 11>serious harm to themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody donates to you, they can either do it

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<v Speaker 1>through their business or obviously through their own pocket. What

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<v Speaker 1>happens with that money and how does it help the kids?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, our number one resources our counselors. They're paid professionals,

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<v Speaker 11>tertiary qualified. The great thing about that is that young

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 11>people can come back to the same counselor each time.

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<v Speaker 11>I think one of the things about Kids Helpline that's

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<v Speaker 11>special is that it's free. It's equitable to everyone, and

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<v Speaker 11>there shouldn't be any family that worries about can they

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<v Speaker 11>afford for their child to get the right support when

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<v Speaker 11>they need it. Seventy five percent of all the Contactic

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<v Speaker 11>Kids Helpline come outside normal business hours, so we have

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<v Speaker 11>to have a safety in it there when no one

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<v Speaker 11>else is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm political, you're not. You need all sides of politics

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<v Speaker 1>to help your organization. Now, I want to make that

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<v Speaker 1>very very clear. But do we have to have more

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<v Speaker 1>of a chat at a time of hyper focus when

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<v Speaker 1>our vote matters about our kids, about those mental health

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<v Speaker 1>support systems.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I think we don't have to be political to

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<v Speaker 11>know that we need investment into our young people. We

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<v Speaker 11>need to be listening to them, We need to be

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<v Speaker 11>caring about what those needs are. We need to be

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<v Speaker 11>making sure that the investment's going into the places that

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<v Speaker 11>can make a difference. And that means different things at

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<v Speaker 11>different times. We need investment into acute mental health need

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 11>we need an investment into education. We need investment into

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<v Speaker 11>helping our families, our parents know how to deal with

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<v Speaker 11>some of the complexes use that children present with. And

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<v Speaker 11>I don't think that's political. I actually think that's what

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<v Speaker 11>we all need to be thinking about where that investment

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<v Speaker 11>needs to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've had the chance to see

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<v Speaker 1>that show on Netflix Adolescents, right, it's a hardcore four

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<v Speaker 1>hours of a look about a kid who commits murder.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a what do they say, It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>how who done it? It's a why they did it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've had a lot of chats with people that

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't normally talk to people about about all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of precious that exist, from social media to school bullying,

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<v Speaker 1>to know all sorts of stuff that's around. How important

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<v Speaker 1>is it that when the culture turns to things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that it means some people might be having their first

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<v Speaker 1>conversation in a long time about what's really going on

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<v Speaker 1>with kids.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, shows like that are certainly doing a job about

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<v Speaker 11>elevating some of the serious issues that are happening. And

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<v Speaker 11>I think, as parents often say to us, we actually

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<v Speaker 11>don't know how to have this conversations. We're worried about them.

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<v Speaker 11>Young people tell us that they simply don't know who

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<v Speaker 11>to talk to, and they worry about putting burden onto

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 11>their parents because their parents have already got a lot

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 11>of things to be worried about. But we are seeing

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<v Speaker 11>cultural change. We are seeing young people be made to

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<v Speaker 11>be aware of behaviors that we wouldn't normally want to

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<v Speaker 11>be tolerating. We wouldn't want to be seeing any young people.

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<v Speaker 11>They're learning things online that aren't healthy, that aren't good

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<v Speaker 11>for them, and then they're using those behaviors against others.

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<v Speaker 11>But as adults, we've got a lot to think about

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 11>in our own behaviors as well. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 11>the whole element here, especially around things like bullying, where

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<v Speaker 11>we get a lot of presentations young people don't know

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<v Speaker 11>how to find.

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<v Speaker 2>A way out.

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<v Speaker 11>But as adults, what are we teaching people about the

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 11>behaviors that we want our children to have? And that's

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<v Speaker 11>something that we should all be reflecting on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, buddy Earth, if you think that blowing up at

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<v Speaker 1>each other isn't going to rub off on the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're not really paying attention. Tracy, Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much again. You can donate to this phenomenal a service,

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<v Speaker 1>kids Helpline dot com dot you. Thank you, Tracy. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you again into the future. Quick break back with

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<v Speaker 1>more back to the election debate and they winner and

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<v Speaker 1>Loser of the week all on its way. You can

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<v Speaker 1>always send me an email with news tips, Paulitskynews dot

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<v Speaker 1>com dot you. I have goods this Sunday night, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, State of the Race Thursday night, another hardcore

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<v Speaker 1>chat about politics and two blokes in it, very very

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<v Speaker 1>well from lots of different sides, the wonderful Darren Barnett,

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<v Speaker 1>who's in studio here, studio. This is in a studio.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a man cave. And joining us right now is

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<v Speaker 1>James Ashby because there was big news Paul and Hens's

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<v Speaker 1>daughter is now going to be running for one nation

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<v Speaker 1>in Tasmania where he is right now. I see winter

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<v Speaker 1>has arrived early for you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, easing mate, especially for.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to say Camber's bad enough. Enjoyed Tazzy and

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<v Speaker 1>the wins tonight and tomorrow. All right, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the politics of Tariff's, okay, Darren, huge hype going into this, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It is not good. It is not okay. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible decision, all right, correct, No, but particularly the beef

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the beef produces, that's that's bad news. Ten percent of

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<v Speaker 1>five percent is not going to destroy the Australian economy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that means that Albow's real hope, which

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<v Speaker 1>was to put Trump at the center of the Australian

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>election campaign for the next three weeks didn't quite work.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 16>I feel it's probably true that obviously James is the

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<v Speaker 16>other guest, and he's he would know more from a

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<v Speaker 16>Pauline Hanson perspective. The problem for Dutton is that he

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<v Speaker 16>gets hit from the left and the right and wherever

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 16>he sits. The people who watch your show, the people

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<v Speaker 16>who vote for Pauline Hanson, they're going to say, well,

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 16>Dutton's not quite as much like Trump as we like,

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 16>he's not as hard as we'd like, and the people

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<v Speaker 16>in the center, I think he's a little bit too

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<v Speaker 16>much like Trump. So I think the problem for Dutton

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<v Speaker 16>isn't really one of Anthie elbhen eas he's making.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the.

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<v Speaker 16>Times, and sadly for Dutton at the moment, the times

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 16>don't quite suit him.

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<v Speaker 1>James, your sense here again, is it serious trouble when

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the next few weeks or I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to use the word fizzy right. People were banging on

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<v Speaker 1>about that with tropical cyclone they were able to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, the tropical cyclone was a thing all right,

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<v Speaker 1>but thankfully it wasn't as bad as it could have been.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your sense about just how much has changed, because

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you can see that albou was desperate to make this

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump referendum.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, we heard the lead up to this big announcement

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<v Speaker 15>was all about, oh, it's going to destroy the beef industry.

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 15>It's going to destroy pharmaceuticals that we export to the

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<v Speaker 15>United States, which are two extraordinarily big exports for US.

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<v Speaker 5>But so too as gold.

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<v Speaker 15>People don't realize we've got probably around a combined trading

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<v Speaker 15>arrangement with the United States of around ninety to one

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 15>hundred billion dollars, of which Australia export's about probably thirty

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 15>five forty billion. The thing is that it didn't turn

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<v Speaker 15>out the way that everyone predicted it to.

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<v Speaker 5>So it has been a visit today.

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<v Speaker 15>Gold prices went down yesterday I was having a look

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 15>at gold prices. There are about five thousand and fifty

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 15>dollars Australian per rounds.

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 5>That's now down back under five thousand.

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 15>So it wasn't you know, people run to gold for

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<v Speaker 15>security and safety. Well they obviously realized that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 15>the need to rush to gold. The other thing too,

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<v Speaker 15>is that you've got to remember the American dollar is

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 15>extraordinarily strong against the Australian dollar, so there's still going

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:47.760
<v Speaker 15>to be this desire to buy Australian products.

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<v Speaker 5>We're cheap, We're cheap to Americans.

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 15>But I don't blame Trump when he wants to protect industries.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 15>I wish we had stronger leaders in this country because

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:58.879
<v Speaker 15>some countries want to work for a bowl of ice

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 15>a day. Pay our workers very well here and no

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 15>one wants to take that away from them. But if

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 15>you were to compete on a global market with a

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 15>lot of these Asian economies, you have to apply tariffs

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 15>because otherwise you end up like Australia, destroyed manufacturing and industries.

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 15>And we should be protecting our own industries here in Australia.

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 5>Trump's done it for how long it lasts. Who knows.

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 15>If there's a change of leadership under Dutton, who knows

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 15>what we may be able to negotiate.

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 5>But it is a bloody big feasitt today.

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just looking at the futures market, of course,

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>a couple of hours before the American market opens, and

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 1>no doubt there's going to be lots of red there.

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>The total market value is forty one thousand now on

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the dow. The suggestion is at the start it's going

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to go down by about a thousand, not an insignificant number,

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but again not the sort of COVID early days of COVID.

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>But that's just the markets. And I'm not here for

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.720
<v Speaker 1>financial advice in any way, shape or form. But it's interesting.

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>And also, Darren, you know Australia for generations has had

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to deal with globe blows. Right, the idea that we

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>used to make a car, and we used to make

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>a fridge, and we use all of these things, right,

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>and then slowly but surely, Oh, it's just easier for

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>someone somewhere else for four cents a day to make

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 1>it and then we'll import it back in Trump views

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>it as a way of funding his economy because he

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>wants to get rid of things like income tax. Do

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you think that it actually is going to be a

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>substantial kick in the backside to Australia to actually start

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>making stuff again. But we don't even make copy paper anymore.

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 16>Oh, we do. We get rid of our natural resources

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 16>and then import them back. That's been the case for

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 16>a long time and I think certainly if you talk

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 16>about James's voter base in Queensland. A lot of them

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 16>are old labor voters who still like the Union but

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 16>don't necessarily love the Labor Party, the modern iteration of

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 16>the Labour Party. But trade wars are very complicated things,

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 16>and once you start them, you don't I.

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Don't know where they go. I don't know where it ends.

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:57.399
<v Speaker 16>And for someone like Trump who does like to control that,

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 16>he doesn't know what's going to blow back and how hard.

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 16>And I think it's also true that in a few

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 16>months time, when the price of a television and a

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:11.359
<v Speaker 16>price of other things skyrocket, that even though they've tried

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 16>to soften the American public with this is going to

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 16>be difficult. But trust us, when massive price hikes happen

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 16>on certain items, it's going to be very hard to

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 16>keep all of this under control domestically.

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.800
<v Speaker 1>So I think November they're going to smack him about.

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 16>There's a little bit of visitist today, but really it's

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 16>about what happens in the next twelve eighteen months, and

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 16>that's the real telling factor, particularly at home for Trump.

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Now. Today the boss of the ABC was playing a

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>home game the National Press Club, where basically he was

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>sending up a not so subtle signal, you know, the

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>only we need more money because we were doing more

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.320
<v Speaker 1>with less, which is every business in Australia, a littleone,

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>the one that gets guaranteed more than a billion bucks

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 1>coming over there into the bank account every year. And

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>then he's obviously out there that Peter Dutton, well you

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>know he's not going to be the friend of the ABC,

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and that of course feeds into teel Land and all

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the rest of it here. But I want to talk

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.399
<v Speaker 1>about the politics of the ABC because while I will

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>gladly go to battle with many of their leftis and

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>certainly i'll give it the lefty Laura Tingle and all

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the rest of it, I have no problem with public broadcasting.

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I have no problem with it filling the parts of

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the market that the commercial interests don't be at, things

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>like women's sport, regional coverage, that that stuff. Right, no problems.

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Basically there's lots of good stuff done. But in many ways,

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, it's Channel nine without the ads, the

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Star system, the gold Logi nominees, the cross promotion, all

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>of that business. But politically speaking, James yep okay, there's

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>a certain section of people who say sell the damn.

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>But its not going to happen, never gonna happen. But

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:52.360
<v Speaker 1>what is the politics of the ABC when the boss

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of a government organization is basically out there saying don't

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>vote for one of the two options of government.

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 15>It's quite literally what it's come down to today's discussion. Look,

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 15>he's asking for a firm answer from Dutton as to

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 15>whether or not that funding is going to be there

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 15>in the long term if he wins government. Well, I'll

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 15>give you a firm view of what one nation think.

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 15>We're prepared to get some of the funding from the

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 15>television side of the ABC because Paul, we got hosts

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 15>on the ABC, which we discovered a couple of years ago,

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 15>like Media Watch on Monday nights. It's one program per week,

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.879
<v Speaker 15>last what five minutes, and the host has played over

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 15>two hundred thousand dollars a year plus.

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 5>He's got a swag of staff.

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 15>Come on, you can't tell me that that's good value

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 15>for money in our national broadcaster.

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 5>What the ABC do very well is regional radio.

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 15>They do a remarkable job on most of their radio networks.

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 15>I was sick for two weeks, mate, a couple of

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 15>weeks ago. I was laid up with influenza A. I

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 15>spent a lot of time scanning the ABC. As you know,

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 15>they've got four channels. One's kids, the other three are

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 15>basically repetitive. They repeat each other's programs. Half the crap

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:06.760
<v Speaker 15>comes from other countries. If we're to produce local content

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 15>on all for that, but the ABC's given up significantly.

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 5>Their ratings are right down.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 15>I don't see the value when we're spending over a

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 15>billion dollars a year. So if Williams wants some surety,

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:19.800
<v Speaker 15>one nation is saying, if we hold the balance of power,

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 15>we will be taking a razor blade to some of

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 15>that budget and it will come from the fat television's

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 15>part of the ABC. Leave the radio stations loan. But

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 15>the television needs gutting.

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I have a little look at, by the way, the

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>amount of money that they hide off in co productions.

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 1>That's how many of the people you see on TV

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>actually get paid. So therefore it doesn't turn up in

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the books. The politics of the ABC, is it a

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>third rail because we certainly know that that particularly the

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Teals love to run on this issue.

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.760
<v Speaker 16>I think in the wealthier parts of Australia, and certainly

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 16>some seats that have got an older demographic, the trust

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.959
<v Speaker 16>factor and the love of the ABC is still incredibly strong.

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:02.919
<v Speaker 16>The problem the ABC has and so does a lot

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 16>of kind of all of it. A lot of media

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 16>has this problem, but younger people aren't using it and

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 16>consuming it. They rely on other forms, whether it's podcasts

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 16>or whether it be surveillance apps. Indeed, but look, that's

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 16>the problem for all media, all kind of legacy media,

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 16>including the ABC, is how are they going to convince

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 16>younger people to get on board? And when you're publicly funded,

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 16>you need to be able to justify your existence well

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 16>and in fairness, but it does matter the wealthier the

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 16>seat and the closer they are to the CBD, then

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 16>it matters in terms of the big cities. Regions are

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 16>also definitely regional radio and other things. I think it

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.959
<v Speaker 16>was about twenty sixteen they put some regional cadet chips

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 16>in and other bits and pieces. That's been successful and

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 16>there should be more of that.

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>A great completely. Perhaps the transmission costs might be a

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>way of looking at things. Everything can be streamed, the

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Internet available everywhere. Do we really need that many stations

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.439
<v Speaker 1>on that many radio towers around the country who knows

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>back with more a winner and loser of the week.

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to it next, including Paul's aside, who was

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the winner and loser of this week in the election?

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I love on a Thursday night, my brother from another mother,

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>literally and physically. It seems to be no than the

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:18.320
<v Speaker 1>wonderful Darren Bunnette.

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 16>One day they'll know how often we swap and that

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 16>just goppleganger in.

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Correct, correct, all right? And the wonderful James Ashby who

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 1>is in Tasmania. So let's talk about why you're in Tasmania,

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 1>which is Pauline Hanson's daughter, who is spectacular on TV

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>any day by the way, great from breakfast to press

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>conferences and interviews. She is a star and she's the

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 1>top of the ticket in Tasmania.

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 15>She's definitely the diplomatic one of the family, paul She's

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:48.240
<v Speaker 15>got a great deal of talent.

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:49.320
<v Speaker 5>Talent, that's for sure.

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 15>And look, I know for many years Pauline's been asking

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 15>Lee to run for the Senate or run for a

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.879
<v Speaker 15>lower house seat here in Tasmania. And look, I guess

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 15>we've all got a time in life, which is right.

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 15>She's forty one now, same age as Pauline was when

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 15>Pauline was first elected to the Lower House. So maybe

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 15>it's an omen we'll see what happens. There's got two

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 15>wonderful kids down here and tazzy've been here for thirteen

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 15>years and it is right. Lee performed extraordinarily well today.

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 15>I think people can see there's a lot of likeness.

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 15>They've got the same nose if you take a good

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:24.399
<v Speaker 15>look paul but you know they're an extraordinary family. She's

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 15>seen the highs and the lows and the hard times

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.399
<v Speaker 15>of her mum. But boy has she got something to offer.

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 15>She's a real talent for Tasmania and that is the

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.240
<v Speaker 15>person I'd pick as the winner of the week this week.

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 15>TASMANI really has a great opportunity to elect a one

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 15>nation representative in Lee and keep that handsOn legacy alive

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 15>because unfortunately Pauline can't go forever. She's still got plenty

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 15>more years left in her but the legacy has to

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 15>be there for one nation and I think having two

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 15>Hanson's on the floor of Parliament is better than one

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 15>bloody oath.

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's get her on the show Sunday night. Organize at

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.479
<v Speaker 1>someone anyone. I'd love to get her on the show

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Lee Hanson. Lovely passionate and great option for someone serious

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>rather than the sort of lambie of it all. We're

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>literally on our own page. There's no policies right, it's

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, great with a grab on TV. But come

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>on you when somebody who's actually got some ideas, Darren,

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>you're we're a loser of the campaign week polls a side.

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:15.919
<v Speaker 16>Hey on winner of the Week. I want to say

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 16>Canada because they were. They just didn't get mentioned, yes,

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 16>and I don't know why, but they have managed to

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 16>escape that and it looks like the remnants of the

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 16>Trudeau government are a chance of winning, which I don't

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 16>know what the bookies odds were a couple of months ago, but.

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 1>You could have made it money.

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 16>Yes, yes, campaign wise, Look, I think Elbows had a

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 16>better week than Dutton and it follows and having had

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 16>a better week than Dutton for the last two or

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 16>three weeks, so six or eight weeks ago, I thought

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 16>the Libs were a pretty good chance to get into seventy.

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 16>Now it feels a little bit distant to me unless

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 16>there's a massive turnaround.

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll be fascinating to see in the next of

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>a while. Again, part of the planning and the timing

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 1>is the of school holidays, public holidays, all the rest

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.879
<v Speaker 1>of it. But people still taking plenty of information over

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the next of a while.

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 16>He doesn't elbow, looks like he I think he's much

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 16>you're a frame of mind than he was three years ago.

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.720
<v Speaker 16>He looks more assured, he looks like he's across the brief.

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.800
<v Speaker 16>He just looks as I think he uses the term

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.240
<v Speaker 16>match fit, and that matters.

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but when you can't even admit that you've fallen

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:28.879
<v Speaker 1>off a stage, I mean this is sort of like again,

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I literally don't care. It is nothing, nothing, nothing, And yes,

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:33.959
<v Speaker 1>I know somebody's going to put together that mega cut.

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned lots of times to take the piss right,

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 1>But if you can't even be honest about whether you

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 1>fell off the stage or not, James, please, and.

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 15>The public can see right through that. And this is

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 15>his biggest problem. He's been called out so many times

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<v Speaker 15>over the last three years for promises that have never

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<v Speaker 15>come to fruition.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, were impossible.

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<v Speaker 15>You know that two hundred and seventy five dollars reduction

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<v Speaker 15>in electricity prices, that's just one of many the mere

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<v Speaker 15>fact that he's guillotines with no debate over two hundred

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<v Speaker 15>pieces of legislation in our Senate.

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<v Speaker 5>That's disgraceful.

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<v Speaker 15>That's not democracy, that is not how our Parliament's meant

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<v Speaker 15>to work. The Australian public should be appalled by that,

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<v Speaker 15>and that behavior was only enabled by the Greens, Jackie

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<v Speaker 15>Lamby and David Pocock, plus that halfwit out of Victoria

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<v Speaker 15>Lydia Thorpe. So you know, we've got to really change

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<v Speaker 15>the makeup of the Senate.

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<v Speaker 5>The only way we're going to do that is if you.

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<v Speaker 15>Vote Conservative in the lower House and you get that

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<v Speaker 15>with One Nation and other parties. But also we've got

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<v Speaker 15>to change the dynamics of that Senate. I say time

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<v Speaker 15>and time again because I'm deadly serious. Unless we change it,

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<v Speaker 15>we're going to end up with a real basket case of.

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<v Speaker 5>A parliament whatever happens after May three.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, if Lydia thor would like to join us

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<v Speaker 1>at any time to dispute or push back on any

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<v Speaker 1>observations of our guests, all the hosts, she's welcome here

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<v Speaker 1>for the full hour at any time.

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<v Speaker 16>I didn't know where you were going to go with

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<v Speaker 16>that halfwid from Victoria.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is the assumptions exactly?

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<v Speaker 5>Darren?

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<v Speaker 1>We are literally inside our last minute here. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>just ask you both?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Just a random question, core flutes, why are there're so many?

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<v Speaker 1>There are too many around and it kind of pease

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people off, don't you think, Darren?

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<v Speaker 16>There are too many? But I do like the Amelia Hamer.

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<v Speaker 16>That was good, smart, that's clever. Yeah, don't take this one, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see one's about values, not just about

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<v Speaker 1>some face of some person in a QR code.

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<v Speaker 5>James, Yeah, the Greens are so anti gas.

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<v Speaker 15>But guess where cor flute comes from the gas industry.

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<v Speaker 5>It's plastic, your fools.

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<v Speaker 1>Great point, I'll tell you what. Whoever the core flute

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<v Speaker 1>people are enjoy I'm sure you're making hey while the sunshines.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you lads to appreciate. I have a wonderful weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>That's our show for tonight. Don't forget Sunday Night, State

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<v Speaker 1>of the Race, hardcore politics. As we move into the

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<v Speaker 1>second week, remember just about twenty days until the first

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<v Speaker 1>votes are counted and the People's Forum next week. Have

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<v Speaker 1>a great weekend, Go Tigers, Go Yankees. Stutter didn't keep

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<v Speaker 1>it