1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,440
Speaker 1: Well, Mizzano really did have it all. A wooden leg

2
00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,119
Speaker 1: katm becoming unchained literally and a certain mister Mark Marquez

3
00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,800
Speaker 1: stripping off on the podium and that wasn't on my

4
00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,480
Speaker 1: bingo card. The doctor was in the house, a couple

5
00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,759
Speaker 1: of F one superstars made an appearance, and finally we

6
00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,040
Speaker 1: got to see the V four on track, and our

7
00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,759
Speaker 1: very own Joe Kelso made his twenty twenty six signing

8
00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:23,759
Speaker 1: announcement too.

9
00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:24,440
Speaker 2: So we have.

10
00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,040
Speaker 1: Got a lot to unpack here. This episode of Pit

11
00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,680
Speaker 1: Talk is powered by Shannon's Insurance. I'm your host, Rnita vmullen.

12
00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,920
Speaker 1: Alongside me is my ever knowledgeable partner in crime, mister

13
00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,279
Speaker 1: Matt Clayton. But before we get into it, Matt.

14
00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,519
Speaker 2: We've got a very special guest here.

15
00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,159
Speaker 1: Some former listeners from another podcast that might recognize this gentleman.

16
00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,800
Speaker 2: But for the older.

17
00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,800
Speaker 1: Generation, shall we say former Grand Prix writer Keith and

18
00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,920
Speaker 1: the OG voices of Moto GP mister Keith Hewan Keith.

19
00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,200
Speaker 1: This feels like a bit of days JA.

20
00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,760
Speaker 3: Vote for me, pep bumping in you every now and again.

21
00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,040
Speaker 3: I think the last time was Thailand when we were outing.

22
00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,479
Speaker 2: Buriram like a bad smell.

23
00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,480
Speaker 4: Hi thank you. How did you tell that from all

24
00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,240
Speaker 4: the way over there?

25
00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,200
Speaker 5: And microph yours is pretty sensitive for a leader, I'll

26
00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,319
Speaker 5: say that, but I don't know if.

27
00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,840
Speaker 2: We can tell from my intro.

28
00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,000
Speaker 1: Yes, there was a lot of funny stuff happening on

29
00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,319
Speaker 1: and off track this weekend, but there's also a lot

30
00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,280
Speaker 1: that we need to get into and unpack him in

31
00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,440
Speaker 1: all seriousness, because we've got Mark Marquez who's now got

32
00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,840
Speaker 1: the match point, We've got that Zechi who was on

33
00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,679
Speaker 1: pole and on the podium on the weekend, Mark crushing

34
00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,600
Speaker 1: out the sprint. Matt, I'm going to hand this over

35
00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,360
Speaker 1: to you like we normally do, because Mizano you told

36
00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,080
Speaker 1: me keep an eye on and a bas shanini and

37
00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,240
Speaker 1: that's where we play out.

38
00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:48,600
Speaker 4: Did it?

39
00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,160
Speaker 5: No, that didn't go so well. But it's funny when

40
00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,960
Speaker 5: you were going through your intro before the sheer number

41
00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,320
Speaker 5: of things that happened over the course of the weekend,

42
00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,800
Speaker 5: and I sort of when you mentioned the Bazari prosthetic

43
00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,600
Speaker 5: leg and the very weird explanation about that, I was like, oh, yeah,

44
00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,920
Speaker 5: that happened as well. There was so much going on

45
00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,160
Speaker 5: over the course of the weekend. But I think you

46
00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,240
Speaker 5: kind of buried the lead a little bit there in

47
00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,640
Speaker 5: that well, you know, Mark Marquez has this inevitable match

48
00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,720
Speaker 5: point now in Japan coming up in a couple of weeks,

49
00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,720
Speaker 5: and I don't know how you feel about it, And Keith,

50
00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,480
Speaker 5: maybe i'll throw this one to you as well. We're

51
00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,320
Speaker 5: looking at a guy who's about to win a seventh

52
00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,959
Speaker 5: Premier Class world title, and you don't want to start

53
00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,520
Speaker 5: comparing world titles like comparing your children, right, which is

54
00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,000
Speaker 5: you know you don't want to go down that path.

55
00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,920
Speaker 5: But when you've got seven of these things, given what

56
00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,880
Speaker 5: he's come from, is this one the best of the seven?

57
00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,680
Speaker 5: Do you think when it happens or are we looking

58
00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,200
Speaker 5: back to maybe twenty fourteen or twenty nineteen is being

59
00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,799
Speaker 5: batter because it's hard to split them, but the context

60
00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,760
Speaker 5: of where he's come from for this one feels more

61
00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,280
Speaker 5: significant to me. How do you see it?

62
00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,240
Speaker 4: I see it significant in a couple of ways.

63
00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,200
Speaker 3: One is, I don't think the twenty five bike is

64
00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,160
Speaker 3: anything like the best bike. I think that they've ended

65
00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,359
Speaker 3: up with a situation where Bani I can't make work

66
00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,920
Speaker 3: a tour. I won't say I feel sorry for Pecko,

67
00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,839
Speaker 3: but if you remember Anita. Early on in the other

68
00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,160
Speaker 3: podcast that I used to be involved with I am

69
00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,320
Speaker 3: still involved with, I did say that Peco was cooked,

70
00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,720
Speaker 3: but I just didn't expect him to be quite as

71
00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,000
Speaker 3: well done as he has been this year so far.

72
00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,320
Speaker 3: I mean, in recent times, it's just been awful. Twenty

73
00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,040
Speaker 3: first qualifier, you know, it's a situation where that motorbike

74
00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,400
Speaker 3: just doesn't suit him. They can't get it around at

75
00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,760
Speaker 3: the end of the day. Why should they when they've

76
00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,919
Speaker 3: got Markus doing the business on it. Anyway, He'd have

77
00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,440
Speaker 3: been better off on the twenty four bike, there's no

78
00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,119
Speaker 3: doubt about that.

79
00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,160
Speaker 4: Another man that.

80
00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,440
Speaker 3: I do actually feel sorry for is Markers. Alex Markers

81
00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,800
Speaker 3: because he's never going to win a world championship unless

82
00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:41,920
Speaker 3: Mark lets him.

83
00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,000
Speaker 4: Imagine that in the family lump.

84
00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,360
Speaker 3: It's one of those situations where Alex Markes really it

85
00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,840
Speaker 3: took him a wild and win Moto three, it took

86
00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,120
Speaker 3: him a wild win Moto two. But of course he

87
00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,240
Speaker 3: is potentially a world champion in Moto GP as well.

88
00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,360
Speaker 3: I mean, but he's so underrested, made and so overlooked

89
00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,360
Speaker 3: in what he's achieving. I just can't help but feel

90
00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,680
Speaker 3: a little sorry for him. And it's his brother who

91
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,480
Speaker 3: used to say that that Alex is at a faster

92
00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,640
Speaker 3: motorbike racer than me. I think that might have been

93
00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,479
Speaker 3: off road a little bit more than it is where

94
00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,880
Speaker 3: we are now. But but at the time Mark always

95
00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,680
Speaker 3: used to big him up. But now we've got a

96
00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,200
Speaker 3: situation where we're going to have a one and two

97
00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,240
Speaker 3: Marcus brothers this year. I mean, what a fan you

98
00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,960
Speaker 3: know for family markets what it's unprecedented. I mean we've seen,

99
00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,080
Speaker 3: you know, father son type for world champions in the past,

100
00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,160
Speaker 3: but but brothers, you know, one and two in the series.

101
00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:40,200
Speaker 3: You know what a spare he is if Mark Mark doesn't.

102
00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:43,479
Speaker 4: Spare.

103
00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,400
Speaker 2: I love the.

104
00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,720
Speaker 1: Fact though, that what you're saying is something similar that

105
00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,560
Speaker 1: we've said before, and I want to say it again.

106
00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,960
Speaker 1: Is Mark is like a Lamborghinia of Ferrari. He's a

107
00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,440
Speaker 1: sports car, and Alex Marquez is like a Diesel truck

108
00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,440
Speaker 1: and he takes his time to build up to the

109
00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,280
Speaker 1: speed and get faster. But now now we're seeing that.

110
00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,080
Speaker 1: But I think you did hit the nail on the head.

111
00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,559
Speaker 1: There's like, is Alex ever going to get that Moto

112
00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,279
Speaker 1: GP world champion or is he always just going to

113
00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,520
Speaker 1: be the bridesmaid? Is it until Mark leaves? And it

114
00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:15,960
Speaker 1: is Mark ever going to leave?

115
00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,320
Speaker 5: Well, one way you could look at it, well, so

116
00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,600
Speaker 5: what if Mark? So if Mark gets seven this year

117
00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,919
Speaker 5: and he gets eight next year, which means he beats Valentino,

118
00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,719
Speaker 5: then does Alex ask him around the dinner table like

119
00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,279
Speaker 5: you were saying Keith, It's like, do you reckon? I

120
00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,480
Speaker 5: can have next year? Will that be all right? You reckon?

121
00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,480
Speaker 5: He asks him then, because then it's like, well you've

122
00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,320
Speaker 5: got yourself past ROSSI what else are you doing at

123
00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,920
Speaker 5: this point you'll be thirty four years old? Like, if

124
00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,440
Speaker 5: I get a good start of the season, might you

125
00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,360
Speaker 5: let me have one? Maybe that's the only way it happens.

126
00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen in a

127
00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,600
Speaker 4: million years. Mark. Mark is own wired that way, is he?

128
00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,200
Speaker 3: He's got to look to see what he's going through

129
00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,720
Speaker 3: you get to where he I mean, he's a remarkable,

130
00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,039
Speaker 3: remarkable man, a remarkable remarkable athlete to come back from

131
00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:57,800
Speaker 3: what he's come back through.

132
00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,320
Speaker 4: We've seen it.

133
00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,760
Speaker 3: With your compatrion doing. Do you class him as your

134
00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:09,000
Speaker 3: compatriots as you're from Essex, Matt If he's winning, Yes,

135
00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,240
Speaker 3: similar philosophy. Yeah, but you know, like Doing came back

136
00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,760
Speaker 3: with a leg that was half hanging off. At the

137
00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,280
Speaker 3: time that he came back and did what he did,

138
00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,680
Speaker 3: he was, you know, mighty Mick, and we still think

139
00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,760
Speaker 3: of him like that. Obviously, he's my era, so I

140
00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,200
Speaker 3: can remember exactly what he went through.

141
00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,120
Speaker 4: And how he did it.

142
00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,000
Speaker 3: Mark, you know, the operations he's had to go through

143
00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,960
Speaker 3: as well, would finish any normal mortal man would. He

144
00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,720
Speaker 3: wouldn't even see someone come back like that. And he's

145
00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,080
Speaker 3: working his way around a motorbike that isn't quite where

146
00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,880
Speaker 3: it ought to be for some reason or another, and

147
00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,200
Speaker 3: we're moving in. The exciting part of it is, I

148
00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,080
Speaker 3: think the motivation might not be so much the numbers,

149
00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,760
Speaker 3: although the Valentino Rossi tag of course, will be a

150
00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,280
Speaker 3: lovely little number for him to surpass that. I'm sure

151
00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,120
Speaker 3: that is in the back of his mind somewhere, if

152
00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,880
Speaker 3: only subconsciously. But of course we're going to be moving

153
00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,160
Speaker 3: into another era very soon as well, which is going

154
00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,200
Speaker 3: to be tantalizing for the Mark. He's going to want

155
00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,920
Speaker 3: to do that twenty twenty seven, when we have all

156
00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,400
Speaker 3: the rule changes and we have the new new products

157
00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,960
Speaker 3: out on track. I think he's going to be looking

158
00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,559
Speaker 3: forward to that as well. So thirty four you mentioned

159
00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,880
Speaker 3: that number. Thirty four, Well, bloody hell, you know, Rossi

160
00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,320
Speaker 3: was into his forties, well into his forties, and before

161
00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,320
Speaker 3: he rolled over, and he was still competitive. Whatever anybody says, Valentino,

162
00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,640
Speaker 3: Rossi was still there or there about. So I don't

163
00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,000
Speaker 3: see any reason why Mark mark Is can't go on

164
00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,200
Speaker 3: for another ten.

165
00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,960
Speaker 5: Years, right, something you did something you just said then

166
00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,800
Speaker 5: before that was really interesting that I hadn't really considered

167
00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,720
Speaker 5: about twenty seven. When you've done as much winning as

168
00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,760
Speaker 5: Mark has. He look at the way this year is gone.

169
00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,040
Speaker 5: You sometimes need like an external stimulus to motivate you

170
00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,200
Speaker 5: for that next thing. And so you look at what

171
00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,400
Speaker 5: he's done this year after all the surgeries and the

172
00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,280
Speaker 5: time in the wilderness with Honda and what have you.

173
00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,960
Speaker 5: This is like one of the rare cases where the

174
00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,240
Speaker 5: sequel might be better than the original. Like he's come

175
00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,280
Speaker 5: back as in this second career, and he's done it

176
00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,440
Speaker 5: a different way and older, wiser, smarter, maybe not on

177
00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,840
Speaker 5: the best bite, Like maybe you get to twenty seven,

178
00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,200
Speaker 5: it's like, well how about I try and master this

179
00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,000
Speaker 5: as well? So we're all looking at twenty seven as

180
00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,680
Speaker 5: being this potential hard reset for the series, and maybe

181
00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,200
Speaker 5: this is when things will change. The other side to

182
00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,000
Speaker 5: look at that is like this might be the external

183
00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,040
Speaker 5: stimulus that he needs. It's like, well, now I can

184
00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,480
Speaker 5: show you I can ride these bikes as well, and

185
00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,160
Speaker 5: we might be in for a period of even more

186
00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:20,440
Speaker 5: of this.

187
00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,920
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I meant.

188
00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,720
Speaker 3: And if it didn't come across like that, well done

189
00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,480
Speaker 3: for putting it in some order.

190
00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,240
Speaker 4: That's fine.

191
00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,840
Speaker 5: I'll just translate that into Australia for our audience.

192
00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,280
Speaker 3: Keep that's fine, It's now you've got it. I mean,

193
00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,840
Speaker 3: it's bang on. I think that the only thing that

194
00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,240
Speaker 3: he's going to run out of is motivation at the

195
00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,240
Speaker 3: end of the day, you know, like to he's walked

196
00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,200
Speaker 3: away with just about everything this year and the second

197
00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,480
Speaker 3: somebody gives him a bit of a push.

198
00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

199
00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,720
Speaker 3: I was having a quick look through the stats. I

200
00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,000
Speaker 3: actually did some research, Ren, which is very unusual, you

201
00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,640
Speaker 3: know what I'm like, actually got a bit of paper

202
00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,160
Speaker 3: and the number four is the worst he's been all yearther.

203
00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,720
Speaker 3: It be a finishing position or a qualifying position. I mean,

204
00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,920
Speaker 3: that is some way to go during the course of

205
00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,760
Speaker 3: a year. If you can say your worst worst events ever,

206
00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,080
Speaker 3: when you look at poor old Bangnaya, who's still third

207
00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,280
Speaker 3: in the championship, you know, twenty first qualifier. I mean,

208
00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,000
Speaker 3: I can't imagine the state that Peco's heads in when

209
00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,960
Speaker 3: he gets back to the I have a very, very minute,

210
00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,600
Speaker 3: much lower grade way of thinking with this, because when

211
00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,440
Speaker 3: I'd ride back into my garage and my teammate or

212
00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,760
Speaker 3: my major competitor on the other side of the garage

213
00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,960
Speaker 3: was was sitting there smugly looking at the monitor because

214
00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,480
Speaker 3: they all do that and you and it's it's automatic.

215
00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,679
Speaker 3: All these people will gravitate around mark all the text.

216
00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,959
Speaker 4: All the main data guys, all that will all be.

217
00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,760
Speaker 3: Watching what he's doing, and Peco will be like billion

218
00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,080
Speaker 3: omates that over the other side of the garage were

219
00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,760
Speaker 3: just the odd word of consolation from from the missus

220
00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,040
Speaker 3: and the like. And it is a shit place to be.

221
00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,920
Speaker 3: It is just the worst mentally state to be in.

222
00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,040
Speaker 3: And you've got to be something very very special, very

223
00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,000
Speaker 3: very strong to pull yourself.

224
00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:05,320
Speaker 4: Out of that hole.

225
00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,800
Speaker 3: Marquez is that man. He's the kind of guy that

226
00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,120
Speaker 3: could do it. Peco has always come across to me

227
00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,880
Speaker 3: is just that little bit more sensitive. You know, you

228
00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,199
Speaker 3: saw Davida Todotsi having a go at him, saying you've

229
00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,760
Speaker 3: got to take it to him. You've got to be

230
00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,160
Speaker 3: more forceful earlier on in the year. You've got to

231
00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,719
Speaker 3: you know, you've got to bat a bit harder. But

232
00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,400
Speaker 3: he ain't that kind of guy. He's a precision instrument,

233
00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,320
Speaker 3: is you know, precision instrument with a sort of easily

234
00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,400
Speaker 3: breakable blade.

235
00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,560
Speaker 1: So my question to you, Keith as being like an

236
00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,880
Speaker 1: X race, is how does Pecker then get out.

237
00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,760
Speaker 2: Of his own head?

238
00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,080
Speaker 1: Because to me, it's like, okay, yeah, we see he's

239
00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,880
Speaker 1: not gelling with the biank, but it's almost now we

240
00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,760
Speaker 1: see that his mind is so jumbled, right, how does

241
00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,679
Speaker 1: he get out of that and just ride?

242
00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,960
Speaker 4: Monor GP is about work.

243
00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,840
Speaker 3: You've heard the riders are not riders, but they're reps

244
00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,160
Speaker 3: bloody complaining about the extra work they're having to do

245
00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:00,679
Speaker 3: at the moment.

246
00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,200
Speaker 4: Pr wise, you know, it's something that I don't feel.

247
00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,880
Speaker 3: It's all sorry for them, by the way, I mean,

248
00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,240
Speaker 3: the fact of the matter is in the constitution they

249
00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,720
Speaker 3: should do more bloody work towards the fans and towards

250
00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,520
Speaker 3: the You know, the public. It shouldn't be a situation.

251
00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,120
Speaker 3: It should be more like NASCAR or or something along there.

252
00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,920
Speaker 3: You know, you'll have a series out there that that

253
00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,680
Speaker 3: is similar that where they have to do something for

254
00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,560
Speaker 3: the fans. They have to be their presentation wise, and

255
00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,160
Speaker 3: I think that work is what it's going to be about.

256
00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,240
Speaker 4: I suppose that the reason.

257
00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,600
Speaker 3: Why you're hearing more winging about you know, not doing

258
00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,880
Speaker 3: these pr things is because they wrap their heads around

259
00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,320
Speaker 3: these little problems that they've got and they cannot focus

260
00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,320
Speaker 3: on anything else. They want to just concentrate on that

261
00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,800
Speaker 3: minute detail that they're trying to get right on the

262
00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,320
Speaker 3: bike reading data. I don't know whether you two have

263
00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,520
Speaker 3: ever tried doing it, but it's like an impossible, bloody

264
00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,560
Speaker 3: screen full of squiggly lines, and now they've got like

265
00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,680
Speaker 3: six s greens full of squiggly lines that they're trying

266
00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,240
Speaker 3: to decipher in between all the bits and pieces that

267
00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,320
Speaker 3: are going on. Recently we've seen about them maybe in

268
00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,960
Speaker 3: you know, Moto three and Mono two a little bit

269
00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,719
Speaker 3: and pulling them back as in Formula one where you've

270
00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,480
Speaker 3: got the GP two, GP three or whatever it is,

271
00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,160
Speaker 3: and they're sort of in the car park pattern and

272
00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,920
Speaker 3: they're not really well focused on, whereas in our GP

273
00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,840
Speaker 3: series we're quite unique in that we rate Moto three

274
00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,320
Speaker 3: in Moto two almost as highly as we rate Mono GP,

275
00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,880
Speaker 3: and quite right to it in my own opinion. But

276
00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,000
Speaker 3: the fact is I can see a situation coming where

277
00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,600
Speaker 3: they are pushed to one side and more time is

278
00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,679
Speaker 3: given to Moto GP, more space is given to Mothero GP.

279
00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,439
Speaker 4: They're going to need.

280
00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,520
Speaker 3: It because they are a the premier class but technically

281
00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,640
Speaker 3: the most difficult class to get everything right. And I

282
00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,600
Speaker 3: think with Pecko, if we go back to the original subject,

283
00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,600
Speaker 3: you know, he's got an incredible amount of work to

284
00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,280
Speaker 3: try and do to decipher what is wrong with that bite,

285
00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,760
Speaker 3: why he is not able to gel with that motorbike.

286
00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,760
Speaker 3: Whereas Mark Markus, who is one of them annoying, really

287
00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,920
Speaker 3: annoying people, that seems to be able to ride around.

288
00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,640
Speaker 3: Whatever he's got, he gets it to where he thinks,

289
00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,000
Speaker 3: you know, the best he can get it to do,

290
00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,040
Speaker 3: and then the rest he does.

291
00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,800
Speaker 4: In in in style and writing.

292
00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,240
Speaker 3: It's notable this year, you know, particularly this year, I

293
00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,680
Speaker 3: think on that Ducati, he's completely his style has changed completely.

294
00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,360
Speaker 4: He's nowhere near hanging his arse out every single where

295
00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:11,880
Speaker 4: that he can.

296
00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,319
Speaker 3: He's nowhere near tuck in the front every single corner.

297
00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,480
Speaker 3: He's nowhere near locking the break up every time that

298
00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,800
Speaker 3: he enters. He's really smoothed himself out and brought himself

299
00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,920
Speaker 3: into the Jucati domain to make that work for him.

300
00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,240
Speaker 4: And I'm really impressed with that.

301
00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I sound like a Marquez fanboy, and I

302
00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,839
Speaker 3: suppose from a I am actually I am. I mean,

303
00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,679
Speaker 3: I don't see and he's like, you know, over here,

304
00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,000
Speaker 3: we got David Beckham. Everybody hates David Beckham for some

305
00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,719
Speaker 3: reason or another, but he's a smooth guy with his

306
00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,600
Speaker 3: will suit, his missus looks all right, and you think

307
00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,160
Speaker 3: to yourself, why shouldn't he be the you know? And

308
00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,320
Speaker 3: the same thing with Marcus Marquees is, yeah, he's got everything.

309
00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,520
Speaker 3: He's got everything. I mean, I'm sitting here jealous as hell.

310
00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,400
Speaker 4: I mean, i'd buy me Mark Markus tomorrow if I

311
00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,280
Speaker 4: had an opportunity. I wouldn't.

312
00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,640
Speaker 5: I wouldn't buy his well, I wouldn't buy his bag

313
00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,640
Speaker 5: balance for sure. But something you touched on then, kay,

314
00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,280
Speaker 5: is something that we that read it. Her and I

315
00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,240
Speaker 5: talk about a f on this podcast in that Mark's

316
00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,440
Speaker 5: the best rider in motor GP when he's got the

317
00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,600
Speaker 5: best bike, but more annoyingly than that, he's the best

318
00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,080
Speaker 5: rider in motor GP when he doesn't. And I think

319
00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,080
Speaker 5: that's the difference you've seen with him this year in

320
00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,520
Speaker 5: that this new era remark, all of a sudden is

321
00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,120
Speaker 5: the best tire manager in motor GP, which I don't

322
00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,480
Speaker 5: think we would have said about him in career one,

323
00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,680
Speaker 5: you know, the Honda Halsion days, because now you know

324
00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,680
Speaker 5: that he's going to have more tire than the guy

325
00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,400
Speaker 5: that he's fighting against at the back end of a

326
00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,320
Speaker 5: race if he needs it. He's just added another sort

327
00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,880
Speaker 5: of you know, another string to his bow if you like.

328
00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,160
Speaker 5: But the thing you were saying about Pecko before is

329
00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,240
Speaker 5: interesting to me in that there's so much data now,

330
00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,720
Speaker 5: there's so many ways you can try and find ways

331
00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,360
Speaker 5: to extract yourself from a hole that you're in, and

332
00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,160
Speaker 5: Pecko's more of a he's more of an engineering led,

333
00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,920
Speaker 5: data driven rider who won't necessarily just stick his brain

334
00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,560
Speaker 5: on the shelf when he goes out there and try

335
00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,320
Speaker 5: and ride this thing and not fiddle with it the

336
00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,720
Speaker 5: entire weekend. He's looking for the perfect solution to an

337
00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,880
Speaker 5: imperfect problem, and the deeper we get into this season.

338
00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,960
Speaker 5: It's interesting. At the start of the season, it felt

339
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,560
Speaker 5: like it was the bike that was holding him back,

340
00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,400
Speaker 5: and now it feels like this his head is holding

341
00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,680
Speaker 5: him back. It feels like it's a different problem with

342
00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,360
Speaker 5: the same result now if you know what I mean,

343
00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,680
Speaker 5: and that the results are going backwards if anything, But

344
00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,720
Speaker 5: I don't know for the same reason that they were

345
00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,520
Speaker 5: at the start of the season. It seems much more

346
00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,920
Speaker 5: of a mental block that he now has with this

347
00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,680
Speaker 5: bike as opposed to the actual physics of the bike itself.

348
00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,120
Speaker 3: I bet he wishes his management had done a different

349
00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,880
Speaker 3: deal when Mark was in coming, because I think you

350
00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,040
Speaker 3: would have been looking to yourself and thinking, now can

351
00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,600
Speaker 3: I cope? Well, I mean we all talked about it

352
00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,440
Speaker 3: before Mark arrived in the garage. You know Mark, Mark

353
00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,240
Speaker 3: is He's a ruthless individual. Now he's going to get

354
00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:43,160
Speaker 3: an advantage in mechanically, technically, physically, every way you can

355
00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,200
Speaker 3: possibly think. He is going to be a weapon as

356
00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,880
Speaker 3: soon as he gets the other side of the garage.

357
00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,280
Speaker 3: I think that would have been the time to go

358
00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,720
Speaker 3: and look at maybe going to back to Grassini, maybe

359
00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,600
Speaker 3: go to Grissini and ride the twenty floor bike that

360
00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,640
Speaker 3: would have been I mean, Alex Marcus can do what

361
00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,720
Speaker 3: he's doing on any bike. Then I think that Peco

362
00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,680
Speaker 3: he must rule the day that his management or even

363
00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:04,360
Speaker 3: he allowed.

364
00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,400
Speaker 4: I wonder if you had You know, quite often when.

365
00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,480
Speaker 3: You have incoming riders, this won't apply to mart Markets

366
00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,880
Speaker 3: because anybody that has got mar Markets, you know, as

367
00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,440
Speaker 3: a possibility, is going to sign him. But in lots

368
00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,760
Speaker 3: of teams there's usually a little bit of a veto

369
00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,120
Speaker 3: in there that the other rider can can make a

370
00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,880
Speaker 3: few comments as they now, I don't really want that

371
00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,480
Speaker 3: guy as a partner, and you know, I don't really

372
00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,960
Speaker 3: want him in here. But of course Pecko he was

373
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,040
Speaker 3: on a no win situation because if he hadn't even

374
00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,400
Speaker 3: kicked off and said no, I don't want to ride

375
00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,080
Speaker 3: with mart Marcus, he had been called a pussy left,

376
00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,800
Speaker 3: right and center. So yeah, it's one of those situations

377
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,600
Speaker 3: where no win for Peco, which is why I said

378
00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,800
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year that Pecko has cooked,

379
00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,400
Speaker 3: because you could just have seen it come in so

380
00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,040
Speaker 3: many times. It's as if it's as if us punters

381
00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,360
Speaker 3: who sit watching Telly and sit on our lounge with

382
00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,520
Speaker 3: our beer in our end, no more than the riders,

383
00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,240
Speaker 3: because they're too close to it. Almost, they're almost too

384
00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,600
Speaker 3: close to it. I mean, if I was Pecko, you know,

385
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,000
Speaker 3: if he'd sat back in his in his setti and

386
00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,560
Speaker 3: thought for himself, should have I really got to put

387
00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,520
Speaker 3: up with mark markets?

388
00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,040
Speaker 4: How can I get out of this? What's what's my

389
00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,080
Speaker 4: best work? Yeah, I'm damn sure I'd have been looking

390
00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:11,880
Speaker 4: for a way out of it.

391
00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,639
Speaker 1: I really wasn't expecting you to say that at all.

392
00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,879
Speaker 2: But I love it and I agree.

393
00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,520
Speaker 1: But moving on to the other side of outside of

394
00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,399
Speaker 1: the Jucaddi world, I feel like it's kind of the

395
00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,280
Speaker 1: same thing with Bez and Jorge at a Prillier. Right.

396
00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,639
Speaker 1: It was coming into the season, it was Joge is

397
00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,560
Speaker 1: going to be the number one writer, and then look

398
00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,840
Speaker 1: what's happened is he had all those crashes, he missed

399
00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,560
Speaker 1: the first half of the year, and Bez had to

400
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,320
Speaker 1: go and carry the weight of a factory rider and

401
00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,320
Speaker 1: the factory team on his shoulders. And now look.

402
00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,159
Speaker 2: At what he's doing.

403
00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,200
Speaker 1: I feel like it's like the complete opposite of Peco, Right.

404
00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,360
Speaker 4: I think a Prillia it took a bit of a dip,

405
00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,600
Speaker 4: didn't they. It was all a bit concerning.

406
00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,479
Speaker 3: You know, we're all expecting the Aprilia to and obviously

407
00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,640
Speaker 3: Jorge to be doing the business on it. But then

408
00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,320
Speaker 3: it took a bit of a nose dye for a

409
00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,840
Speaker 3: moment or two. But they've recovered remarkably well. I mean,

410
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm really impressed with how a Prillier have turned their

411
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,280
Speaker 3: year around, you know, when you see the struggles that

412
00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,280
Speaker 3: Katm are having as well.

413
00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,639
Speaker 4: I mean, I wasn't even sure we're going to have

414
00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:11,199
Speaker 4: Katm on the.

415
00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,959
Speaker 3: Grid this year after their financial disasters out in Austria.

416
00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,679
Speaker 3: So to see, you know, good old Coster doing a

417
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,520
Speaker 3: bit okay, they need something a little bit tougher in

418
00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,800
Speaker 3: the training department maybe, but you know they've come back

419
00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,119
Speaker 3: fairly well too. But there's no beating you know, a

420
00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,760
Speaker 3: man like mar Marcus. It's just if you took him

421
00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,600
Speaker 3: out of the equation, Alex Markus will be world champion

422
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,119
Speaker 3: probably a year that would be m hm.

423
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,359
Speaker 4: Had interesting. It's interesting.

424
00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,400
Speaker 5: It's interesting what you were saying before, Rineta about the

425
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,919
Speaker 5: Beteki thing, in that a prillion might have stumbled across

426
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,000
Speaker 5: something here by accident, in that you know, they clearly

427
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,040
Speaker 5: paid Martine all the money and got him across from

428
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,080
Speaker 5: Decaddy to be the team leader, and with him not

429
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,480
Speaker 5: being there, and then also you have to think emotionally

430
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,040
Speaker 5: the fact that he trying to get himself out of

431
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 5: there for all those months until he realized it was

432
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,399
Speaker 5: going to be too expensive to get himself out of

433
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,680
Speaker 5: there and he had to stay put. They might have,

434
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,159
Speaker 5: you know, the responsibility that got thrown on Berzeki, like

435
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,400
Speaker 5: ever since Silverston when he won that race, but even

436
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 5: the sprint at Silverston he was awesome in that he

437
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,160
Speaker 5: just missed the podium in that from a long way back,

438
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,679
Speaker 5: and since then, I think, if my MAT's a right,

439
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,119
Speaker 5: I think he's been a second high scoring writer since Silverstone.

440
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,320
Speaker 5: It doesn't feel like a flash in the pan anymore.

441
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 5: There's just this consistency with it now and it feels

442
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,160
Speaker 5: like he's grown with the team and the team has

443
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 5: kind of put its arm around him a little bit

444
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 5: and embraced that. And I don't know what you think, Keith,

445
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 5: but so much of this is, you know, played between

446
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 5: the years with these riders. I loved what Massimo Rivella

447
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,360
Speaker 5: did with the whole handling of the Martine situation when

448
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,679
Speaker 5: that was going on for two reasons, he made it

449
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,399
Speaker 5: very clear to Martin, we would like you to stay,

450
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 5: and then had to put his foot down when it

451
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 5: became a legal issue. But by the same token, they

452
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 5: were begging Bozeki up to put him into a position

453
00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 5: where he could capitalize on the bike if it got

454
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,439
Speaker 5: go again. And this shows that, you know, when you

455
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 5: get the right man manager in the right position, you

456
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 5: can actually have successful outcomes on both sides of the garage.

457
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 5: And yeah, the bike's improved technically, sure, but I think

458
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 5: the way they've handled those two riders this year independently

459
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 5: has actually been a real benefit for what they've done

460
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 5: this year. It's been really really well handled.

461
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,959
Speaker 4: I think I don't know you, Matt, but you've obviously

462
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 4: been paying attention what you were saying. Just then.

463
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 3: Excuse me, it was in my head to say next,

464
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 3: because I think I think he's done a great job, Rivola,

465
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 3: And you're so right the way he's handled that situation.

466
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 3: And when I mentioned that dip that a prillier ad

467
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 3: that was as he gathered them up, as he pulled

468
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 3: them back together again, and I think it was really

469
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 3: good management. Riders again, as you say, it's north of

470
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 3: the eyebrows. And if one's spinning off out of control,

471
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 3: bringing him back into the fold, bringing him back gen

472
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 3: bloody hell. That's a difficult task for management. That really

473
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 3: is quite a tough situation. And again compare that, if

474
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: you like with David a too Dootsi shouting publicly almost

475
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 3: in the face of Peco magnaia you've got to be

476
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 3: tough and you've got you've got to sticking in a

477
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 3: bit harder or whatever the actual words were that he

478
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 3: said in the Italian. But it's a situation where Revola,

479
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 3: almost unseen, just gathered them up, as you say, put

480
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: their arm around him, rent and brought them back into

481
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 3: into the fold. And I think that's his management was

482
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,239
Speaker 3: worth the money they paid Revola when he came over

483
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: from F one and it's it definitely is paying off.

484
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 4: So yet big up to a prillion to be able

485
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 4: to put that together.

486
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: Well my next thought, Matt, I don't know if you've

487
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: thought about this bar. I'm going to throw it to

488
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: Keith to see with boy Peco is now and the

489
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: way that Bes is going on his trajectory. You know,

490
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: we still have like five hundred races left on this season,

491
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: so there's like a million points up for grabs. Can

492
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: Bes be a serious threat here to Peco and take

493
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: him over for third in the World Championship this year

494
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: Keith two.

495
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 3: Twenty nine Verses two thirty seven. I'm certain, absolute yes,

496
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: he's right in the zone. And once he gets a

497
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 3: sniff of I mean, that's the other thing, and it

498
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 3: they're like bloody sharks want to get a sniff a

499
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: bit of blood in the water, they're going to go

500
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: for it that little bit harder. It's worth fighting for.

501
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 3: I mean, third place second loser is used to be

502
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 3: the old saying, didn't it You know, it's one of

503
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 3: those situations where as a championship, you don't care if

504
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 3: you finished second. You don't care if you finish third. Well,

505
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 3: actually you do, particularly when it comes to bonuses. You

506
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 3: get paid big money for these things as well. I

507
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: don't forget about the money. I almost didn't overlook that.

508
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 3: You know, GP is a massive earning potential there and

509
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: bonuses from sponsors and backers and factories and the like.

510
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where can you imagine the

511
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: bonuses that Mark's on.

512
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 4: At the minute.

513
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 3: I mean he would have been paid massive money anybody.

514
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 3: I mean, you mentioned the money earlier on Matt You've

515
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 3: got me at it now.

516
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 4: And the fact of the matter.

517
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 3: Is is that the bonuses for first and seconds throughout

518
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: the year just must be bloody huge. He's not gonna

519
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 3: have any trouble with house cleaners for the rest of

520
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 3: his life, is he mark markers you.

521
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to have to have his mum rather anymore.

522
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 5: No, the fuel budget for the private jets nicely sorted

523
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 5: for the next eighteen months. But the thing you were talking.

524
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 4: About before, Reni, he knows about that.

525
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we've got some stories, probably not for this

526
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: podcast that we should probably get into with that. But

527
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 5: the thing you just mentioned then, Realija about Buzeki finishing

528
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 5: in front of Banyai I reckon. The other factor to

529
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 5: put in here is that normally when motor GP gets

530
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 5: on a plane and goes off to do the flyaways,

531
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 5: that's normally when a Prillier season just goes downhill. In

532
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 5: the past that you remember the Alasia Spargaro championship push

533
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 5: and I use air quotes on that because it was

534
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 5: mathematically there, but it wasn't really happening. Whenever they'd go

535
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 5: and do the flyways. A Prillia would just sink like

536
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 5: a stone the last few years and it hasn't happened.

537
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 5: And going back to something I was saying before, it

538
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 5: feels like they've got momentum and management and riders in

539
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 5: a good spot at the moment that I don't think

540
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 5: they're going to turne up at Motigi and then go

541
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 5: to Mandalika and Philip Island and just be oh, yeah,

542
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 5: there was an aprillier on the grid. I don't think

543
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 5: we're going to forget that like we've done in previous years.

544
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 5: I reckon, it's sustainable. I don't even think that Bazeki's

545
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 5: going to finish in the World Championship. I think he'll

546
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 5: be well in front of Banyai by the end of

547
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 5: the year, given that we've still got six rounds to

548
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 5: go and he's outscoring him by about fifteen points around

549
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,239
Speaker 5: at the moment, So he might finish. Yeah, he might

550
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 5: finish fifty sixty points ahead a Pecko at this stage,

551
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 5: you'd reckon.

552
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 4: I've just been looking at my sheet again.

553
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: I know I can't believe I've done prep but thirteenth, fourteenth,

554
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 3: thirteenth in the last three Grand Prix for bang Naya,

555
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: you know, twenty first in a sprint, fifteenth in a sprint.

556
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: I mean he is habit. Can you imagine the state

557
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: of affairs when he gets back. I mean they don't

558
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: have motoromes nowadays, have these little hospitality units out there,

559
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 3: but get him back in there. Hotel rooms are the

560
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: loneliest places in the world when you any of us,

561
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 3: I mean you guys particularly, have to travel quite a

562
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 3: lot from from your side of the world to outside

563
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 3: of the world more often than not, and sitting in

564
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 3: a hotel room when you're having a bad weekend when

565
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 3: you've you know, for us, it's whether we drop a

566
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: few words wrong, or say something wrong, or don't comb

567
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: her hair in the right direction.

568
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: In my case, I've got a thing about right here

569
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 4: now it's going.

570
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: But the point being is he sat in a hotel room,

571
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 3: and they are the loneliest, most depressing places, and it

572
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: compounds your feeling of absolute dread.

573
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't sleep at.

574
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: Night, the bloody air CON's too cold, the air CON's

575
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: too hot, the next room is doing what they shouldn't.

576
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 4: Be doing at that time of night.

577
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: You know, you've put you in the front of a

578
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: bloody hotel instead of the back of the hotel where

579
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: you're staying, and it's noisy. Every single little nuance gets

580
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: on your tits when you're having a time like Peco's

581
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 3: having at the moment, and back to you ran earlier on.

582
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 4: How does he get around that? Where does he go

583
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 4: from there?

584
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: He's an intelligent man, so therefore he's going to have

585
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 3: to use that. He's going to have to step back

586
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: a little bit. Although you can't see him steping back

587
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 3: much further than ease in the minute on the grid.

588
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: But it's a situation where he has got to work

589
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: this out in the last six Grand Prix because otherwise

590
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: he's going to go into the winter dreading the new year.

591
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, it'll be a bit of testing, but

592
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: it's not We don't get the amount of testing. We

593
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: don't get the amount of track time on a motorbike

594
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: nowadays that you used to get. You could go testing

595
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: forever once upon a time, throw tires and money and

596
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: tracks at it.

597
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 4: Now you don't.

598
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: You get very little testing in a new year for

599
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: the for the bikes that may have some modifications next year.

600
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: And I just see if he goes into the winter

601
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 3: break with a similar mindset or a similar performance levels

602
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: where he's out at the moment, twenty twenty six is

603
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: going to seem like a very very tough year for me.

604
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: Night I'm already like you're ready, and hey, it's it's

605
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: the weirdest thing watching it as a fan and a

606
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: spectator and you're sitting on the sofa and you just

607
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: see the pain that Peckers in, the emotional, the mental,

608
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: and the spiritual pain, and it just seems.

609
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: So unlike him.

610
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: But ultimately, if you look at it from like the

611
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: wo wo side of things, it's like, Okay, he can

612
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: come out stronger. Look at what Mark had to overcome,

613
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: Look at what Joge Martin's I've had to overcome. And

614
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: I guess kind of segues me into my next thing is.

615
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: Look at Yamaha.

616
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: Look at what they've done, totally out.

617
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: Of character for them.

618
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: They've now bought a V four and we got to

619
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: see it this weekend with a Gusto Fernandez on track.

620
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny in the build up beforehand,

621
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Alex Rinn saying, oh, imagine if this V for is

622
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: faster than our inline fauce, it wasn't, but you could

623
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: see that they're still having a lot of teething problems.

624
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: But like I want to reiterate the fact that it's

625
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: so unlike Yamaha to go and do something like this.

626
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: You know, they've bought on a European European people more

627
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: into it and instead of it just being straight from

628
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: the factory in Japan, right, they're really trying to make

629
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: these changes, whether that is to just keep Fabriquartero happy

630
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: because Matt has said it a lot of times that

631
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: you know he thinks Fabriquadro is like the second best

632
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: on the grid and there's no denying that, or Yamaha

633
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: are really throwing every dollar, every cent, every tool, everything

634
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: at this Keith. From an ext rider's point of view,

635
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: we did see a lot of teething problems weekend. But

636
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: what's your initial thoughts on this V four?

637
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: Are they heading in the right direction at least?

638
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: Because it's been mixed signals from the Yamaha field.

639
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 3: I'm really glad you've given us some time on this

640
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 3: because it needs time and consideration.

641
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 4: To think about it.

642
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: Let me make a comparison with Suzuki when they came back.

643
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: I know that that Yamaha have been there all the time,

644
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: but a fundamental change from an in line four to

645
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: two a V four is a massive engineering task, a

646
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: massive amount of data gain. No test rider is ever

647
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: going to be like your mainline riders as far as

648
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: giving information is concerned, So we need the top guys

649
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: on the bike now. I I wondered whether Yamaha and

650
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: I've speculated with this in various pods earlier on in

651
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: the year, at the end of last year, rather whether

652
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: Yamaha was even in a situation where they.

653
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: Might pull out of the deal.

654
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: You know, Suzuki capitulated on their five year bloodymotorgp deal

655
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 3: that they'd only just signed and pulled out. You've got

656
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: KTM that have got financial difficulties. That almost meant that

657
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: there was going to be no KTM anymore unless somebody

658
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: like BMW took them over.

659
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: If you remember we're talking about it.

660
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: BMW haven't come into murder GP like was rumored at

661
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: some stage. Kalz actually have been long out of it.

662
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: This is a massively expensive sport, not compared with Formula one,

663
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: of course, but but compared with our own marketplace and

664
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: our own amount of money that there.

665
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: Is in the pot globally. I wonder whether Yamaha.

666
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: Were just going to go okay, we've been great for

667
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: a great number of years. Thank you very much, Dawna,

668
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: shake hands and be done with instead.

669
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: Exactly what you said.

670
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: They're trying the kitchen sink at it and to develop parallel.

671
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: Don't forget that they're only a small team. These teams

672
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: are not big, They're not huge like you. Even Honda

673
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: are quite a small operation from a racing HRC on

674
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: the racing corporation. They're very very small groups of people

675
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: that are engineering these things into a motorbike that was

676
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: only a little bit off the pace. We're talking about.

677
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: Vfax gearing was all wrong, everything was different. Augusta Fernandez

678
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: prehaps wouldn't have been quite on the pace.

679
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: Anyway. If you put couateuro and it's scored points in

680
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: its firstay out in for God's sake, that can't be bout.

681
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people who were out of

682
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 4: the race at the end of the day, but it's

683
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: scored points, and that is the crux for me. I

684
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: always get there in the end. Mat You'll get used

685
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: to me waffling on.

686
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: It's in line four. You know it takes up too

687
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: much bloody room across the chassis. A V four gives

688
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: you a load of more options as to what you

689
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 3: can do with arrow, what you can do with you know,

690
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: so many different things. And looking forward to twenty twenty seven,

691
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: developing a V four through twenty twenty six is.

692
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 4: The smartest of moves.

693
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: By Yama, I mean Lynja Harvis being moved out the

694
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: way you mentioned having a few more euros in there

695
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: to look after. I mean as in people not in money,

696
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: looking after the team.

697
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 4: Great move.

698
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: Honda went that way. Honda, you know you wouldn't see, yeah,

699
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: you will look in at Honda garage. It would be

700
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: full of Japanese personnel, you know, but now you know

701
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: you've got a lot more euro influence in there, you know.

702
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: I think it was Jucatti through their clever maneuvering around

703
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: what is a very thin rule book compared with Formula

704
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: one for instance.

705
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: You know, our rule book is quite thin.

706
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: It's kind of one that you can maneuver through and

707
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: come up with some really good ideas. And of course

708
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: you've got bloody Gigi Delinia from Jucati and his team

709
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: working away, and they bought a motorbike that never turned,

710
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: you know, and didn't do what it wanted to do

711
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: to where it is now and across the ball. Quite

712
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: often you see half a dozen du cates in the

713
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: first six on a race or in a qualifying.

714
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: Session, and I think Yamaha have got the ball by

715
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 4: the horns.

716
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: Massive big up to Yamaha, what they've done, what they've achieved,

717
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: and that before I think, you know, you can see

718
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: a bit of backslapping going on in the pit garage

719
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: to punters on the side of the fence that wanted

720
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: to be instantaneously on the pipe. It can't be, you know,

721
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: technically nowadays to be within a second, to be around

722
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 3: a second off the fastest motor GP by first race out.

723
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: And if you remember, if I go back to Sazuzo again, Matt,

724
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: sorry for yakin on Suzuki when they all they did

725
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: was blow up at Valencia, if you remember, that's right. So,

726
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a great achievement when Yamaha

727
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: have done, and I think that they deserve the accolades

728
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: that they haven't got yet.

729
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 5: Well, what was interesting for me is that, you know

730
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 5: the way that the Japanese factories tend to operate and

731
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 5: they tend to be risk averse, and it's all about

732
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 5: brand reputation and not damaging the brand and making sure

733
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 5: things don't have failures in the public eye when they're

734
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 5: still quite new. The fact they brought this thing in

735
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: earlier than anticipated and within a season to me is yeah,

736
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 5: it's great to have some performance and test this thing

737
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 5: in the you know, the racing laboratory.

738
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: If you like.

739
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 5: But it's a sign of intent for Kwasharero because the

740
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 5: thing that Yamaha's got right now, if you're one of

741
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 5: these five factories, the first box you need to tick

742
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 5: is do we have an absolute a grader for when

743
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 5: the bike is good? You Cadi's got theirs Aprillia when

744
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 5: he gets himself one hundred percent right and he's had

745
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 5: a proper preseason. Martine is proof of concept. He's won

746
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 5: the world championship, so he should be THEIRS, and Katm's

747
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 5: got Costa, So Yamahara at the moment have got a

748
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: guy that's a proven world champion who incredibly hasn't won

749
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 5: a race for over three years now. But if you

750
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 5: get the bike right, you don't have that question of, well,

751
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 5: do we have the rider for the bike at the moment,

752
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 5: they've got the rider but not the bike. But at

753
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 5: least you've got the rider. So to bring this V

754
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 5: four project in when maybe it's a little bit undercooked

755
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: at the moment, is a signal of intent to quash

756
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 5: a row. It's like, no, no, we're doing everything possible here.

757
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 5: Stick with us. Stick with us, because if they get

758
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 5: that bike right, he's already proved that he could win

759
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 5: a world championship. And if they can get the bike right,

760
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 5: they know they've got that asset there. So as much

761
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 5: as anything else, it's a signal of intent, like, look,

762
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 5: we're doing everything that you want us to do to

763
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 5: get you back to where you want to be. Please

764
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 5: don't go and run off to anybody else and look

765
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 5: at anybody else, because we're doing all we can to

766
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 5: keep you within our stable. I thought that was the

767
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 5: main reason that they did it, to be honest.

768
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that.

769
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: I don't know whether for me, I don't think it'd

770
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: probably been the main reason, because you know, like at

771
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: the end of the day, they paid him what twenty

772
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: million bucks or whatever it was to have him in

773
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: the first place. But it's it comes back to what

774
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: we were talking about earlier. It's north of the eyebrows

775
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: is keeping him focused on the job. And I think

776
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: you're right in that they needed to be showing intent

777
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: and the trouble you've got. I mean, I've said this

778
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: so many times in the past. I'm against the homologation.

779
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: The way they homologate, you know, bikes for the next year.

780
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: Noise the hell out. I mean, how we get to

781
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 3: the first round and whatever that will be, and that's

782
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: the bike that you've got to run. It's a molligate

783
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: for the rest of the year. I've always said that

784
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 3: it should be four or five Grand Prix in before

785
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: the inmoligation is set. They should be allowed to run

786
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: what they've brung in the early Grand Prix to test

787
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: in race conditions, not in test conditions. Now, even this

788
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: week when we were looking on Monday for to know

789
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 3: what one thing I used to like to do after

790
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: I'd had a whole weekend, you've been on it.

791
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 4: Thursday.

792
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: We are Friday testing, Saturday qualifying and racing.

793
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: Nowadays Sunday. By the time you've got.

794
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: The Sunday night, you are absolutely hanging your naked and

795
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: the thought of laying in bed for a couple of

796
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: hours and the having to get up and do three

797
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 3: hundred bloody laps of testing on a Monday would drive

798
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: me insane.

799
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: But here they are again working on a Monday.

800
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: But the problem with that as well being the reason

801
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: I bring it up is because the conditions change, you

802
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: can't do back to back. You know, they had a

803
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: load of rain overnight on the Sunday night, so the

804
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: track's completely different on Monday, so you haven't got that comparators.

805
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 4: That's why I think that developing.

806
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: A motorbike in those early races, I've always thought that

807
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: they should have a situation where the molligation is not

808
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: set until round five or something, so they've got the

809
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: opportunity to run your test bikes, run your new new

810
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 3: machinery through proper racing conditions with the as you said earlier,

811
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: mac A grade riders on them, and then you know

812
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: where you are. And then the molligation gets set, then

813
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: it's banged. Everybody goes through it well.

814
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 5: And then adding to that you look at the way

815
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 5: the calendar is these days. That makes almost too much sense, Keith,

816
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 5: and that you should be running things here because you

817
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 5: think where do we go for the first four rounds.

818
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 5: We're in Thailand, we're in Argentina when that's on, we're

819
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 5: in America, we're in Or, we're in Qatar, all over

820
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 5: the place. Maybe the home alligation point is once we

821
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 5: get back to her Reth, when Europe starts. So that's

822
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 5: about round five, round six. Maybe that's the point you go,

823
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 5: all right, that's when we'll hemeligate things. You can go

824
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 5: off and do your first batch of flyways and then

825
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 5: we'll rule a line under it, and you do it.

826
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 5: Then I agree with you. It doesn't make sense that

827
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 5: it's as early as it is.

828
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: I think that there used to be an old phrase.

829
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: I don't know whose phrase it was, but mostly Julian Ryder,

830
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: who taught me more things than I ought to have

831
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 3: been taught by him. But Julian Rider used to say

832
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: it's the beginning of the used to say it's the

833
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 3: beginning of the ground war.

834
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 4: When you get to back to.

835
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 3: Europe, and that's when the real slug starts. That's when

836
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: everybody's right on it. Wrath is traditionally the place where

837
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,959
Speaker 3: it all really really kicks off.

838
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, God, I miss that harass.

839
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: Just curious on your thoughts on this through Keith, because

840
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: we spoke about it on Me and Matt spoke about

841
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: it a lot. The fact that Jack Miller is now

842
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: saying his experience what he can bring to the table.

843
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: What was that face for.

844
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: Well, everybody's talking about Jack Miller at the moment. I

845
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: just I just had an auty mate of mine who

846
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: sadly just passed away. But I mean we were always

847
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: in his bar in Thailand. We were always on about

848
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: Jack Miller all the time. Because with big Jack Miller fans.

849
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 3: I'm a big Jack Miller fan.

850
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 4: I like Jack.

851
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 3: I like his mum and dad, you know, like a

852
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 3: paddock without Jack Miller, and it would be a travesty

853
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: for me.

854
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: But he has had a torrid time. You know, it's

855
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: not been easy for Jack. I think I love the

856
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 4: way you dealt with it. Look, you either want me

857
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: or you don't want me. I love that. That is

858
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 4: a proper Rossie way. Yeah.

859
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: In this in this era of pussy footing around and

860
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: being ever some politically correct and gentle, Jackson comes out

861
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 3: and come on, either Simon or tell me to piss

862
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: off one or the other. Don't be about And of

863
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: course they sign him, and I.

864
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: Think he's an asset.

865
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: He knows how to ride a motorbike, you know, and

866
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: if you want to develop a motorbike, you need someone

867
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 3: who's going to be gritty, who's going to be down

868
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 3: to earth, to get stuck in on it.

869
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 4: And I think Jack is still an asset. There'll be

870
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 4: a few that disagree with that, but.

871
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 3: It's I'm glad to see that he's got that opportunity

872
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: to move forward, and I think my whole benefit from him.

873
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: Well.

874
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 5: The key thing for me too, Keith, is that you

875
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 5: look at their rider line up for next year. You've

876
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 5: got Alex Ridens did half a season on a V

877
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 5: four at Honda before he smashed himself up when he

878
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: was riding for Luccio in twenty three. Quaaterero has never

879
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 5: ridden a V four and top racks of rookie. So

880
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 5: having someone in that four rider lineup, you know, Jack's

881
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 5: done every season besides the current one on V four's

882
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: for three different manufacturers. It was an absolute no brainer

883
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: to keep him based on that, if not what he's

884
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 5: done on track this year, because on track it's not

885
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 5: been great, let's be honest, but you look at the

886
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 5: CV that he's had and where he's been the fact

887
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 5: that he can bring the best out of these three

888
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 5: other places that he's been too, where they've written V

889
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 5: four's is more valuable than anything you'll do at a

890
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 5: Sunday i'd reckon.

891
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that.

892
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that, like I said, Jack Miller

893
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: is an asset to the team and for those reasons

894
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: you've given. It's interesting that you mentioned Alex Rinden Coo.

895
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I always like to have a bit of

896
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: a mention if I can with Joan mir I mean,

897
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: I have never known a rider throw himself at the

898
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 3: floor so consistently often. Honda obviously rented the former world champions.

899
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: It's hard to remember he was a world champion, for

900
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: God's sake.

901
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 4: And the commitment that he's showing to Honda and that

902
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: they appear to be showing back.

903
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: I mean, Honda surely deserve a break at some stage,

904
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I mean, I think the other

905
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 3: problem you've got is that there's a log jam of talent.

906
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: You look behind these guys now that are all lining

907
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: up in Moto three, Moto Moto two, and beyond this

908
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: ev or whatever it might be that that that's bringing

909
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: on some of these young riders. You know we talk

910
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: about Aldi gear, aldigear was going to be the next

911
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 3: best thing. Well he's still right there, a Costa. You know,

912
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: he's yet to peak in my view. Okay, all those

913
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: troubles at KTM, that's got to have filtered down the

914
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: line to the race team. You know, everyone wondering whether

915
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: they're going to have jobs, everyone wondering, you know, everyone

916
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 3: looking to the side, where can I go with this lot?

917
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: You know ends up going fits up.

918
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: So it's kind of one of those ones where there's

919
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 3: a there's a lot of stuff going on in the

920
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: background that the riders and management are looking at that

921
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: affects the overall riding. I think so people like Joe Amir,

922
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: Who's Who's Who's Who's still I've never never seen commitment

923
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: like it for throwing himself at the fence. I mean,

924
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: the guy can't get a break even when he even

925
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: when he doesn't throw himself at the fence, someone else him.

926
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: So true, Yeah, he's definitely already won that the most

927
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: crashes or the most takeouts this season, hasn't he? But

928
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up a Costa there, and I

929
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: know you've got the euro Costas shirt on for those

930
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: who are listening to the audio for this piece the

931
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: big Costa fan. But Matt, we got a little bit

932
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: of knowledge on the whole chain incident, didn't we regarding

933
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: the KTMS because it happened to Brad during Friday and

934
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: Saturday and then obviously Sunday on the main Grand Prix

935
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: we saw the Marshall running onto the track to pick

936
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: up the part of the broken chain.

937
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: Can you fill our listeners in on what was to

938
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: go with that?

939
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 5: Well, you're selling yourself short here because the information that

940
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 5: I received was from you, because you had someone in

941
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 5: the in the other is Prilier that gave you the

942
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 5: load out of what was going on. So you need

943
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 5: to scroll back through your WhatsApp and actually tell them

944
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 5: this is what you told me. But I mean the

945
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 5: long story short is that there was a it's part

946
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 5: of the body work right that they were using if

947
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 5: I remember this correctly, on Monday at the test, they

948
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 5: were almost using like a guard to stop the chain

949
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 5: from being rubbed against the chassis when the bike is

950
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 5: squatted down when the rear ride high ice is engaged

951
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 5: and you look at where the apprilliate where the kt

952
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 5: was shedding its chain at Massa because it happened a

953
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 5: couple of times to Binder as well. It was coming

954
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 5: out of corner numbers in my head turn six, I

955
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 5: reckon it is where it's the back straight effectively where

956
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 5: they start the back straight on the curbs on the outside.

957
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 5: So the bikes squatted down on the curbs, which is

958
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 5: useful because I've just squtted down on an audio podcast.

959
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 5: The bike squatted down on the curbs and the chassis

960
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 5: is rubbing against the chain while the bike's got its

961
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 5: rear ride height device engaged over some curves as it

962
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 5: heads down the back straight, and that was what was

963
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 5: dislodging the chain. Have I got that right?

964
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: Look, I'm fairly sure, but I've never ridden a red

965
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: a GP bike.

966
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: So Keith, does that sound? Does that sound to you?

967
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 4: Well?

968
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: It's funny because someone asked me and I think I

969
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: put it out on Twitter or x or whatever it's

970
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: called nowadays. You know, it's one of those situations where

971
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 3: with the right device doing what it's doing, and when

972
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 3: you've got the natural pumping that you're getting anyway through

973
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: a chain.

974
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: I mean, you consider how much a bloody motorbike chain.

975
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: Has to put up with nowadays, the amount of grief

976
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: it's getting from from both engine breaking and just horsepower poking,

977
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: and also the geometry of real suspension and the light,

978
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: the way the motorbike is really live at the back

979
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 3: as well. You know, if you haven't got that geometry

980
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: absolutely bang on, you might get a bit of a

981
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 3: stretching situation in places and then in other places, which

982
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: is I think where you're going, Matt, is that you know,

983
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 3: the chain.

984
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 4: Gets a little bit loose.

985
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: So if you've got a situation where it's being pushed

986
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: out a line, then pop off it comes. But I

987
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: mean it's something that geometry wise, I would have to

988
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 3: get worked out. I mean roll on the days where

989
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: we don't have a bloody ride height situation.

990
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 4: I mean, these bikes shouldn't be bloody drag bikes. The

991
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 4: should be proper motorbikes.

992
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 3: I mean bloody ride heyes, And again it comes back

993
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: to my rule book that I said earlier on because

994
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: the bloody rule books are thin. Everybody's got away with

995
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 3: everything they shouldn't have got away with. And I always

996
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: remember Mike Trimby God rested Mike Trimba, original CEO of

997
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: the International Race Teams, Association.

998
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: I mean I always used to sit in.

999
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: Mike's office with him grumbling over someone's found a way

1000
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: around the rule book for this, and found them away

1001
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: around the rulebook for that.

1002
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 4: When seenless gearbox, it's first game a thing.

1003
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: I remember Mike saying, if we've seen that coming, they

1004
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: wouldn't have come because at the time, the cost involved

1005
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: in making a sceneless gearbox the first one that came out.

1006
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like swist watch.

1007
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: I can't even bloody say it, let alone bloody make one.

1008
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: Swiss watch manufacturing. I mean it's hugely expensive.

1009
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: I mean, now we've got seamless up and seen us

1010
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: all the way down through the gearbox as well. Fantastic,

1011
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 3: And that might work on a road bike. You might

1012
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: think that that's something development wise can go to a

1013
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: road bike, so therefore there might be some point to it.

1014
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: But a bloody ride eye adjuster, I mean, just you're

1015
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: never going to need that on a roadbike as long

1016
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: as we go. But then there's the other argument. This

1017
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: is a prototype series, so therefore, you know, it's quite

1018
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: nice to see all these really really radical ways around things,

1019
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: but we've got to live in the real world. It's

1020
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: all a massive cost. Arrow arow should never have been

1021
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: allowed to get to where it's got to, you know

1022
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: it should that should have been bloody blanked out a

1023
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: long time.

1024
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: Me go again.

1025
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 3: I'll go back to the NASCAR analogy if you like,

1026
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 3: because I covered NaSTA for Sky for some time.

1027
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: You know, those buggers, if they're a.

1028
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: Millimeter out on their on their their shape and their

1029
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 3: their form that it goes through, they get excluded straight away.

1030
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 3: And we should have had something immediately like that. I

1031
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: re remember Danny Aldridge, technical director, pushing this this like

1032
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: frame thing through the paddock and because it looks like

1033
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: something he's gonna hang, he's washing on.

1034
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 4: I don't know anything else.

1035
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: It literally was it right that they they got as

1036
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 3: a form to push the bike into and if any

1037
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 3: part of the the carbon fiber touched any of it,

1038
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: then it wasn't allowable. And you just think to yourself,

1039
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: Christ Almighty, if we come to that, I mean, like,

1040
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: can't you write a rule that says no, you're not

1041
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 3: allowed to do that unless we approve it. But slowly

1042
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: but surely, the rule book's got a little thicker, a

1043
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 3: little thicker, little thicker.

1044
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: We don't want it to be like Formula one. What

1045
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 4: do you think? I mean, what do you guys think?

1046
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a pro type series, so therefore development

1047
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: should be allowed within the rule. But I mean, should

1048
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: we have scene this coming? Should should right adjust as

1049
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 3: an are open outlawed ages?

1050
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: Ago?

1051
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things that once

1052
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 5: the genie's out of the bottle, you can't stuff it

1053
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 5: back in right. And that's you know. I went and

1054
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 5: looked at some I was looking at some photos of

1055
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 5: when Mark last wie the World Championship, preparing for the

1056
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 5: inevitable World Championship story that I'm going to write. And

1057
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 5: you look, because we see these bikes every week now,

1058
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 5: we get numb to what they look like. Go and

1059
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 5: look at a twenty nineteen Honda compared to what Mark's

1060
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 5: writing this year, and it looks like a different sport.

1061
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 5: It doesn't even look like the same series. It's the

1062
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 5: same guy. It's like, what category is this? It doesn't

1063
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: look like murder GP at all. Because we've got so

1064
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 5: used to all this arrow and I don't know, Keith,

1065
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 5: I always think with these things that you've got to

1066
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 5: try and find the balance between technical innovation and encouraging

1067
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 5: the intellectual brilliance of someone that's come up with something.

1068
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 5: But then at the end of the day, we're in

1069
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 5: the entertainment business, right, and so does it add anything

1070
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 5: to the show and the entertainment spectacle If everyone's spending

1071
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 5: an insane amount of money to come to the same

1072
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 5: end in that everyone's got the same stuff, some will

1073
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 5: have it better than others, and we're pouring heaps of

1074
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 5: money on these things that, yeah, they make the bikes faster.

1075
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 5: But if everyone's doing it, then are we adding to

1076
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 5: the spectacle? That's the thing I always think with this

1077
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 5: in that I don't think people go to racetracks to

1078
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 5: watch Motor GP to look at timesheets necessarily so we'll

1079
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 5: all be impressed. Oh there's another circuit record gone. There's

1080
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 5: another circuit record gone. The spectators want to see good racing.

1081
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 5: And if we're pouring a heap of money on stuff

1082
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 5: that makes the bikes look different, but we're all spending

1083
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 5: money in the same areas, does it add to the spectacle.

1084
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: I guess you've got to try and find the balance

1085
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: between innovation and entertainment, right.

1086
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 4: I think what matter GP have done is a fantastic job.

1087
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: I mean when in any time in the past have

1088
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 3: we seen a field full of motorbike within one point

1089
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: two seconds of each other. Yeah, and I think that's

1090
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 3: the key. Over over all those different platforms and configurations.

1091
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: We've got an entire field of twenty two to twenty

1092
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: three if it's got a wild card out or something

1093
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: within a second and a half, say, just to pick

1094
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 3: up the stragglers at the back. It's incredible how close

1095
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: it is considering that that has been done. But you're right,

1096
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: innovation fantastic in a prototype series. But the cost, You're

1097
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: right again, money GP cannot afford it. It's not Formula one.

1098
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: And the biggest victim in all of this is the

1099
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: opportunity to pass. I mean nothing pisses people off more

1100
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 3: than seeing that clever little Spanish devil pulling him behind

1101
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: the bike in front just to get the temperature and

1102
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: his tire where he needs it to do.

1103
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: I mean, that is just ruins the whole atmosphere of

1104
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 4: a money GP.

1105
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: What we want to see is twenty four laps or

1106
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 3: whatever it might be, of everybody scrapping elbows in your

1107
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: face and let's get on with it. I mean that's

1108
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: but unfortunately, the more technically advanced, you get the more

1109
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: difficult that becomes. Always remember Bradley Smith saying to me

1110
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: Philip Island. Actually, you know, you get within you know,

1111
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: a few yards of a bike with plenty of arrow

1112
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: on it, and you can hardly bloody hold onto your bike.

1113
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: It's all over the hockey, it's moving, it's been pushed

1114
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: and pulled around so much. And at two hundred mile

1115
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: an hour, suddenly you start to think two and a

1116
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: mile an hour has become normal.

1117
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 4: Now everybody thinks about hour.

1118
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: We will say it with you know, impunity away We

1119
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: always two one hundred and twenty five mile an hour

1120
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 3: at Magello. Wow, that sounds pretty fast.

1121
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: Bloody hell.

1122
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 3: I've not ever been to a race track where you

1123
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: see a motorbike go past you at two hundre mile

1124
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: an hour. It is insane and then you've got to

1125
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: get it stopped. It's incredible. And the arrow affects everybody

1126
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: in the field and makes passing difficult. And I think

1127
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: that that's that's the issue. From a spectator point of view.

1128
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 5: It's so interesting, Keith. You just mentioned Philip Island then,

1129
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 5: and it made me think of and Roonita. I'm going

1130
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 5: to do this twenty fifteen. The race before Malaysia twenty

1131
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 5: fifteen was Australia. We remember how that all kicked off

1132
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 5: there that at Philip Island. I think there was something

1133
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 5: like it was one hundred and something overtakes between Rossi,

1134
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 5: Lorenzo Marquez and Andrea Ynoni once he'd killed the seagull

1135
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 5: on the first lap or second lap or whatever it was.

1136
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 5: And you go back and if you see the highlights

1137
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 5: of that race, those bikes have no arrow on them,

1138
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 5: and so you wonder, is a race like that now

1139
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: possible with the bikes being the way they are with

1140
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 5: all the arrow because passing is so hard. The great

1141
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 5: thing about that particular race he had four guys with

1142
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 5: very different stakes, in very different styles, but they are

1143
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 5: able to pass and scrap and it's gone down as

1144
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 5: one of the great races of the modern era of

1145
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 5: motor GP. I don't know if you can have a

1146
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 5: race like that anymore, because it is just so damn

1147
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 5: hard to pass because you've got all this arrow hanging

1148
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 5: off the side of these things.

1149
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 4: It is an issue.

1150
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 3: And I think also we've got to a situation where

1151
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 3: everybody is on the limit. I mean, I'll make you

1152
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: laugh with it. We'll go back to a Keith Huan

1153
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: time of racing. British Grand Prix Silverston.

1154
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: I'd got the two factory Kawazakis in the three P

1155
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: fifty race, which would have been the equivalent of MOO

1156
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 4: two back in the day, and I managed to pass

1157
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 4: Anton Manguana race. I managed to pass you on Francois.

1158
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: Bolde on the second factory Kawazaki, which was like twenty

1159
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 3: or thirty mile an hour faster in a straight line

1160
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: and anything else, and I passed him from about ten

1161
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 3: yards behind. If I'd done that now, if anybody done

1162
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 3: that now, or even given the opportunity to do that now,

1163
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: they'd be on the moon. There is not a millimeter given.

1164
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm not bigging myself up. What I'm saying is back

1165
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 3: in the day when it was like amateur.

1166
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 4: Hour, in compared with where we are now, every single

1167
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: rider is an athlete. Every single rider there's got his

1168
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: hydration is physique. Everything is pinpoint focused to the absolute limit.

1169
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 4: There isn't anything else. Nobody leaves anything on the table now.

1170
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 4: We always talk about the good old day. It's a

1171
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 4: good old days, buddy, el.

1172
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 3: We'd have a fag before we went out and we'd

1173
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: drink you know, plenty of pints the night before, and

1174
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: that was at brand prex level you know nowadays.

1175
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 4: Wayne Garner made mine Back in the day. I mean

1176
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 4: Wayne and I.

1177
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: Got pessed one day before the Snatterton It was what

1178
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: would have been a British super Vit type series thing

1179
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: and we had a massive night out before both he

1180
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: and I went out to set times the next day.

1181
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 4: If they breathalyzed us, we'd have been thrown out the track.

1182
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: And it's kind of and that's how it was back

1183
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: in the day, and we have moved forward and the

1184
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: same thing goes with technicalities. They've moved forward to a

1185
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: point now where we've gone to the end of this

1186
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: alliot and everybody is right there. They're on the edge

1187
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: of technology, they're on the edge of and nobody can.

1188
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what's going to bring us

1189
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 3: back from that, and probably in my heart, I hope

1190
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: it doesn't go back from that. I like the fact

1191
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 3: that technically all of these brilliant brains are focusing on

1192
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: getting their configuration, their particular platform into a position that

1193
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 3: we're seeing not not the kind of racing that we

1194
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 3: want to see it's gone a bit. I mean, aren't

1195
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: going to get shot for this, and I'm sorry, but

1196
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: it's gone a bit Formula one. You know, it's gone

1197
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 3: a bit formula one. It's about technical more than anything else. Then,

1198
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 3: But they can't pass unless you open the flat, you know,

1199
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 3: for God's sake, you know, the only time they can go,

1200
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: they've they've got to be given fifteen twenty mile an

1201
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: hour more at the end of the strait to make

1202
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: a pass.

1203
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 4: Otherwise, Formula one.

1204
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 3: You know, once you're in front, you're in front forever

1205
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: because they can't pass each other without a bit of

1206
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 3: artificial assistance. God forbid we should ever go down that road. Liberty,

1207
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 3: Please don't do that to us.

1208
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: But it's it's a really different It's a real conflict,

1209
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 4: isn't it.

1210
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: I don't know whether you feel the same way you guys,

1211
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: but it's a real conflict because you want to see

1212
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: this innovation, but the innovation has got us to a

1213
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 3: point where the riders just can't quite get over the

1214
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 3: fact that it's it's almost impossible to pass. Philip Island

1215
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 3: is a track that gives you opportunities in places, and

1216
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: you can be a bit greedy in places of Philip Islands.

1217
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 3: You know you're up and downdown. You've got fast stuff,

1218
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 3: you've got slape stuff. There's an opportunity there, So you know,

1219
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 3: that's why we love Philip Island. And I mean, in

1220
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: a rider in the world I've ever come across that

1221
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: doesn't like being a Philip pylon.

1222
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 4: And I don't know, I quite like the atmosphere of Philipilond.

1223
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: I think that it's really old school. It's like going

1224
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 3: back to the nineteen eighties. When you go to Philip Pyland.

1225
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 4: You know, you got them.

1226
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 3: Grizzled blokes with beards that look like they've been out

1227
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: in the cold for like the last month.

1228
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 4: You know, like their next job is to climb a

1229
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 4: mountain somewhere. I don't know about watching motobile races.

1230
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: This is a big group of really enthusiastic people that

1231
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 3: look like they're going to rip your head off if

1232
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 3: you lick their beer.

1233
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 4: And I kind of like that old fashioned atmosphere Bona's areas.

1234
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 4: I mean, if you went to Argentina, you used to

1235
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 4: have a similar thing there. It was like nineteen eighties.

1236
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 4: You know, you're eating dotgey steaks with maggots in it

1237
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 4: and all the rest of it. It was a really weird

1238
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 4: place to go to and it kind of moves away

1239
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 4: from the I don't know, the modernized Grand Prix racing

1240
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 4: that we seem to be having in some places nowadays.

1241
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: I think my.

1242
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 1: My takeaway from that, and it's something that we spoke

1243
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: about on the OMG podcast when the rules came out.

1244
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: It's something that me and might have spoken about a

1245
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: lot on pittok is the fact that I think collectively

1246
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: as a whole, we're all so excited for twenty twenty

1247
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: seven for the new rules to come in to see

1248
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: if we do get more of that overtaking, more of

1249
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: that close old school racing like we used to have.

1250
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: Because even though it is exciting and something that I

1251
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: try and do with my social content is you know,

1252
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: if you like the passing and you like that closest

1253
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: checkout motor GP, because we have it, we don't have

1254
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: it like we used to do. And even if I

1255
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: talked to Chris about it, it's the same that he's saying.

1256
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: It's not like it was.

1257
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: But hopefully these small changes can bring it that back

1258
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: to that while still improving getting the best of both worlds.

1259
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: Well we got a tire change as well, don't we,

1260
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: which I think is long over. Yeah, I mean again

1261
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 3: you go back to the day. If we don't, if

1262
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 3: we're talking about old school stuff, you'd have good year.

1263
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 4: You'd have mentioned if you'd have done lot.

1264
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 3: You know that you had three different then Bridgestone came

1265
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 3: in on the scene as well, so you would have

1266
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 3: different time manufacturers, which made a difference. You know, if

1267
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 3: you go to the good old Kiwi kra Far when

1268
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 3: he won the British Grand Prix at Donnington Park on Dunlops. Somehow,

1269
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: Dunlops were always the best tire at Donington Park for

1270
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 3: some strange reason, whereas Mitchelin would kick Dunlop's ass just

1271
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: about everywhere else.

1272
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 4: We don't have that anymore.

1273
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: But I think we're not gonna have the same problems

1274
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: with Perelli as we've had with Michelin's.

1275
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 4: It used to be.

1276
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 3: I always remember Colin Edwards telling me something on the lines.

1277
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 3: I can't remember the exact way it went now, but Bridgestone,

1278
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: you know, like you have to have faith with a

1279
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: Bridgestone because whatever you thought you couldn't do with it,

1280
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 3: you could you could. You know, you could trail break

1281
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 3: in on a bridge stone the last minute, and it

1282
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 3: was an incredible tire at the front end, but he

1283
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: didn't have the grip at the back.

1284
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 4: Michelin went the other way around.

1285
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 3: You remember when they first tested, they crashed their brains

1286
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: out a sappan when Michelin came on, because it was

1287
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 3: more of a fifty to fifty balanced deal and none

1288
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 3: of the bikes were set for that, so they were

1289
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 3: all falling off on. But I think when we come

1290
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 3: to Perelli, this tire situation where you know, you can

1291
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 3: be half a degree out in tire temperature and it

1292
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 3: put the transgress the rules, it's just a bloody nightmare,

1293
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: you know.

1294
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 4: It's it just shouldn't be like that.

1295
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 3: And again it comes down to air row to a

1296
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 3: certain extent, why we've got that problem as well. But

1297
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna have that problem with them

1298
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: with Perelli, and we'll see agreed, right you too.

1299
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: I feel like we've waffled on an awful lot about

1300
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: Moto tps. Quickly, just touch on this lower categories, just

1301
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: super quick. I was sitting on the edge of my

1302
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: seat during that Moto three race.

1303
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't know about you guys. It's something that.

1304
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: I preach on here. Listeners, just tune into Moto three

1305
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: because you know, if you're wanting that overtaking in the

1306
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: passing and the elbows out like we love in racing,

1307
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: just watch it.

1308
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: It is so worthwhile.

1309
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: But we had two Aussies on the front row. Mat

1310
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: Jacob finally got his front row start in Moto three.

1311
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: Can you believe it?

1312
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: About bloody time? Jacob?

1313
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, he needed it too, didn't he Because you remember

1314
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 5: what happened a week before at Cashilonia. The last time

1315
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 5: we saw Jacob, he was next to the next to

1316
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 5: his bike on the side of the track after a

1317
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 5: broken down and looking like a young bloke that's under

1318
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 5: a lot of pressure to find himself a seat for

1319
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, which is what he is. So to

1320
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 5: bounce back and get himself on the front row. Race

1321
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 5: didn't go so great, he faded to outside the top

1322
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 5: ten at the end. But to see Joel with his

1323
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 5: new deal for twenty six qualify on the front row

1324
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 5: and he's just off the podium and forth. Jacob was

1325
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 5: pretty strong throughout the weekend. Better weekend for both of them,

1326
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 5: but yeah, particularly for Jacob because that was not great.

1327
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 5: It was pretty confronting TV that previous week because you

1328
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 5: can see how much pressure the young Blake's under, can't you.

1329
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: Yes or yes?

1330
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: And then it's quickly Moto two Senna top five. We

1331
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: love that for a Senna coming back from that injury.

1332
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: But obviously it's hard not to say Vieti was going

1333
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: to do well this weekend because it's VR forty six

1334
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: and he's part of that whole crew and everything. So yeah,

1335
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: that was Moto two in a nutshell, basically another Italian weekend.

1336
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 4: You guys, I mean you imagine where we're at. We're

1337
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: you know, if we do the good old because we

1338
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 4: got to do it.

1339
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: Really, we've written versus Australia type thing, even though you're

1340
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 3: an a sex boy, Matt, and the point being is

1341
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 3: at center agis Joel colso that I mean they are

1342
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: there or thereabouts.

1343
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 4: I mean we've you.

1344
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 3: Know, Jake Dixon, now, our guy Jake Dixon does the

1345
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 3: business sometimes and then gets himself in a muddle in

1346
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: other places, and we're just not quite where we need

1347
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 3: to be really. I mean, Jake Dixon I had marked

1348
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: up he could be a Mother two world champion. You know,

1349
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: we had Scott reading before that looked like he might

1350
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 3: be able to do it. We can't make breakthroughs here.

1351
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: And I keep looking at the bloody attendance for Motor

1352
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 3: GP Grand Prix as a whole over the over the year,

1353
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: and we're breaking records everywhere for attendancies except at Silveston.

1354
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 4: We've gone from.

1355
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 3: Forty eight thousand three years ago to forty five thousand

1356
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, to forty thousand people at

1357
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: Trapside on the Sunday. And when when you do something

1358
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: up on the stage, you know, perhaps you're doing whatever

1359
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: and you look out and all you can see is

1360
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 3: bald heads and flat caps and gray air, you know, like,

1361
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 3: where's all the youngster's gone? Despite the fact we've got

1362
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: some fairly well known bands up on the stage later

1363
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 3: on in the evening, my daughters all went to Silverston

1364
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 3: after six o'clock at night so they could watch the bands.

1365
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, they think for the Grand Prix, you.

1366
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: Know, it's and I think that, well, the audits are

1367
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 3: still batting, you're still you're still at the crease, you're

1368
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: still having a go at it.

1369
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 4: Whereas I think the Brits we've rerived relying on.

1370
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 3: Jake Dixon at the moment, and you know Scott Ogden

1371
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: in Moto three is not He's there or thereabouts, and

1372
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: our rate Scott quite highly, but you know he's not

1373
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 3: doing the business either. And you said it ren trying

1374
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 3: to keep that contract. They're looking over their shoulder. I

1375
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 3: mentioned it earlier on. There's a log jam of great

1376
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: talent waiting to pinch these places. And when you're in

1377
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 3: Motor three and Moto two, it's even not about talent.

1378
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 3: It's about how much money you can bring to the team.

1379
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:45,959
Speaker 3: You know, the teams wouldn't.

1380
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 4: Survive if the rider didn't bring enough sponsorship or enough

1381
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 4: cash into the team with them.

1382
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 3: And I think that we're going to see a bit

1383
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: more of that coming over the next few years because

1384
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: Motor three and Moto two, especially if Liberty and Dawn

1385
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 3: are downgrade Moto too and Motor three little bit we

1386
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 3: touched on it earlier, moves them back in the pattern,

1387
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 3: remove their visibility a little bit, and focus more on

1388
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: other GP. The smaller classes then are going to have

1389
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: even more trouble trying to attract the bucks that they

1390
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 3: need to keep this going at the level it's at.

1391
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 4: But you're right, Mother three. Best race on it.

1392
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 3: I mean, my favorite race probably ever was Motor three

1393
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: Philip Island about five years ago, six years ago, I

1394
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 3: can't remember what one. It was, Fifteen riders within a second,

1395
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 3: all of them going for it.

1396
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 5: Fantastic.

1397
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to white flag it and just say, you know,

1398
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: let's let's go. England and Australia are together because Joel

1399
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: Kelso signed with Michael Lavity next year, so look, we're

1400
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: all family here, we're all together on this.

1401
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: But I think.

1402
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: Basically it wraps up Irish what's the same anyway.

1403
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 4: Let me tell you politics wise, that is the absolute.

1404
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 3: It's the worst thing you can get involved in, because

1405
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 3: Michael obviously runs under Anon Jack, but brother Eugene runs

1406
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 3: under the Irish trickula because it is such a contested

1407
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: issue in that particular part of the world.

1408
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 4: So we can leave it at that.

1409
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 3: And we've got Trump on our shores at the moment

1410
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 3: as well, and you couldn't get any more contention here

1411
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 3: in the UK at the minute.

1412
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 1: Right on that note, Keith, thanks coming on pit talk,

1413
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: so nice to chat with.

1414
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: You, just like the olden days.

1415
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: And as always, Matt, thank you so much for joining me. Listeners,

1416
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: don't forget to check out Shannon's Insurance for all your

1417
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: insurance needs and our client sponsors of this episode of

1418
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: pit Talk. If you want to keep up to date

1419
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: with all the latest Emoto GP news and any of

1420
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: Matt's articles, you can do so at Fox sports dot com,

1421
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: dot Au, Forward Slash Motorsport, plus keep up to date

1422
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: with us on socials at Fox Motorsport, at Fox Sports

1423
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: OZ and obviously Ko Sports on all of the platforms.

1424
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: We have a little break from MOROTOGP this weekend, which

1425
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to because then they're finally in the

1426
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: flyaways and me and Matt don't need to stay up

1427
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: all night because Moto g P heads to Japan.

1428
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: So Keith, you're welcome.

1429
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: Do you get to stay up all night and we

1430
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: actually get to have a sleep in, So guys, you

1431
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: can catch all the action live and add break free

1432
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports and KO. But from Mat Clayton and myself,

1433
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: that is all we have for you today. We're going

1434
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: to be back real soon with more Moto GP Pittalk