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Speaker 1: Hi, I Catchkillers fans. I'm Alex Turner Cohen, our finance

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Speaker 1: and investigative reporter for news dot com. Today you and

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Speaker 1: I'm dropping in to share the first episode of my podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Missing forty nine Million. It's the story of one

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Speaker 1: Ossie Man, a secret code he claims to have found

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Speaker 1: hidden in the Bible, and hundreds of mum and dad

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Speaker 1: investors who want to know where their money has gone.

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Speaker 1: If you enjoy this episode, search for a Missing forty

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Speaker 1: nine million wherever you get your podcasts and come join

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Speaker 1: me on this treasure hunt for the truth.

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Speaker 2: We are gathered today to give thanks to God for

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Speaker 2: the life of Alan Myles Metcalf and to a third

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Speaker 2: the Christian conviction. But while death is the end of

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Speaker 2: human life, at marks a new beginning in our relationship

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Speaker 2: with God. Please let us stand together as we see

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Speaker 2: amazing grace.

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Speaker 1: I'm starting this story at the end, the end of

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Speaker 1: Alan Metcalf's life. This is his funeral. It's a Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: the first day of March in twenty seventeen. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: back at this scene immortalized on a YouTube video. It's

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Speaker 1: a video that I've now watched multiple times, and each

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Speaker 1: time I notice other small details. I count forty or

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Speaker 1: so people sitting in the pews of the church. The

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Speaker 1: thirty two degree day is hot, sweltering, and a few

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Speaker 1: of the men have actually taken off their suit jackets.

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Speaker 1: Sad faces stare up as the reverend begins his service.

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Speaker 1: It's just past one pm in a Uniting church in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.

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Speaker 1: Alan's widow, Mary Metcalf, takes to the stand to deliver

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Speaker 1: her eulogy. She cuts a striking figure with her larger

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Speaker 1: than life makeup and heavy jewelry, as well as a

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Speaker 1: towers next to her, Alan's only child. Mary describes her

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Speaker 1: husband as a gift from God.

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Speaker 3: I prayed to God when I was fifteen to send

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Speaker 3: me a husband who would be a kindred spirit, a

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Speaker 3: visionary who would not be afraid. God answered my prayers

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Speaker 3: in abundance to send me Alan metcats.

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Speaker 1: Alan was seventy years old and was extremely overweight. In

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Speaker 1: the end, he died of a heart attack. He was

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Speaker 1: a seemingly successful businessman on the Gold Coast, a beachside

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Speaker 1: seems like Alan was pretty popular. More than ten people

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Speaker 1: speak and others send video messages from all around the world.

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Speaker 4: My mother told me years ago, Peter, you'll count your

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Speaker 4: genuine friends on one hand in your life time Alan,

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Speaker 4: You're on my hand. We're not going to mourn him.

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Speaker 5: We're going to celebrate his life, what he did in

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Speaker 5: the world, what they're still going to do in the

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Speaker 6: I truly believe he was a genius, and I trust

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Speaker 6: the history of books will prove out.

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Speaker 4: To be the case.

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Speaker 1: Only that's not quite the story I find when I

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Speaker 1: pick up those history books seven years later and learn

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Speaker 1: about Alan Metcalf for myself. The words I'm hearing now

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Speaker 7: Deceitful, a commenter, he was a scammer and a lunatic

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Speaker 8: He struck me as being the kind of guy he

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Speaker 1: Depending on who you asked, Alan was a visionary or

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Speaker 1: a thief, a genius or a fool who believed his

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Speaker 1: own fantasies. Now six hundred people are wondering which it

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Speaker 1: was after putting their money, in some cases, their life

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Speaker 1: savings into a scheme that Allan was running. Alan claimed

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Speaker 1: he'd found the secret to artificial intelligence in the Bible.

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Speaker 1: He told the world his company would be bigger than Google.

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Speaker 1: He was a messiah to his devout followers, able to

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Speaker 9: Welcome to Safe World's TV. Just like Magic, I'm going

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Speaker 9: to show you the easiest way to make money online.

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Speaker 9: So what is Safe World's TV. It's more than just

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Speaker 9: a website and more than just a software application. It's

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Speaker 1: Alan's investors were ordinary people, entire families, friend groups, pensioners,

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Speaker 1: before I was even a working journalist, but he's consumed

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Speaker 1: and I'm setting out to find it. I'm Alex Turner Cohen,

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Speaker 1: a finance and investigative reporter from news dot Commeddy you,

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Speaker 1: and you're listening to the Missing forty nine million. This

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Speaker 1: is episode one Judgment Day.

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Speaker 6: Hello, I'm Alan Metcalf. In nineteen ninety nine, I was

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Speaker 6: fortunate enough to make the breakthrough discovery of the law

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Speaker 6: of thought that in the IT world is called universal logic.

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Speaker 6: Much to the surprise and disbelief of many people, I

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Speaker 6: found the law of thought in the Bible. We have

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Speaker 6: is the world's first artificially intelligent, mass distributable Internet robot

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Speaker 6: for television and electronic business.

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Speaker 1: The voice you're hearing there is Alan Metcalf. He might

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Speaker 1: be dead, but Alan lives on in numerous YouTube clips,

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Speaker 1: a ghost in the machine. Let's go back to the

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Speaker 1: email which started me on the search for Allan's missing money.

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Speaker 10: Hi, my name is Charlie Waynekin. I'm a resident of

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Speaker 10: the Netherlands and I'm writing about a financial investment that

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Speaker 10: I made in Australia back in December twenty thirteen. I

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Speaker 10: was informed that you're a journalist that writes sharp articles

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Speaker 10: concerning financial issues, including fraud. Therefore, I hope that you're

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Speaker 1: This is Charlie reading from his email. He explained that

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Speaker 1: he'd invested tens of thousands of dollars into a scheme

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Speaker 1: called Safe Worlds, as had many other Australians, and that

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Speaker 1: the founder of the scheme was now dead.

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Speaker 10: Please let me know if this is something that you

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Speaker 10: would be willing to work on, and if you can,

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Speaker 10: I will be very happy to send you my correspondence

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Speaker 10: that I have for this project. Thank you in advance

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Speaker 10: for your consideration, looking forward hearing from you.

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Speaker 11: When did this come in April? Didn't it?

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Speaker 1: It's been almost a year to the day. Actually, I

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Speaker 1: me talking to my boss, Sarah Sharples, the finance editor

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Speaker 1: at News dot Com TODAU. She's the one that actually

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Speaker 1: first received that email from Charlie. Tell us about what

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Speaker 1: was happening that day. When the email came in What

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Speaker 1: It was a tip off? You receive a lot of

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we do get a lot of tip offs, which

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Speaker 1: And then, what what did you do next?

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Speaker 11: I have to admit I read it and I filed

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Speaker 11: And I think that was a good tactic from him,

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Speaker 1: I reached out to Charlie to find out more. Charlie's

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Speaker 1: He's made strong friendships on these visits, and it was

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Speaker 7: David and his friends already had bod Shares and they

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Speaker 7: No, that was life savings. We had just finalized everything

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Speaker 7: They seemed like a really good investment, especially knowing that

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Speaker 1: David Gorman, the man who encouraged Charlie to invest, put

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Speaker 4: So I bought some shares at five cents, at ten cents,

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Speaker 1: He still remembers meeting Alan Metcalf, who seemed to have

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Speaker 4: I first met him at the Manly Pacific Hotel it

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Speaker 4: I think the way he was describing what safe worlds

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Speaker 4: it sounded I mean it sounded, you know, intriguing.

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Speaker 1: David worked in the health industry and he's actually never

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Speaker 4: Never was a risk taker. I'm not a risk taker,

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Speaker 4: same as my father. Very conservative. But my friend Michael Blake,

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Speaker 4: you know, the ex footballer. You probably know him or

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Speaker 4: Over to twenty two.

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Speaker 8: He's bit right to think where Beggerson comes at him,

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Speaker 3: And found each other. That's Blake back the back, Michael Blake.

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Speaker 5: Well up on my cave path.

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Speaker 9: That is champlaining football.

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Speaker 1: apparently when Michael was there at the funeral, he was

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Speaker 5: I was a little bit disappointed in the funeral because

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Speaker 5: he was a bit of Alaric and he was a

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Speaker 1: In fact, it was sport that drew Alan and Michael together.

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Speaker 5: I was heavily involved in rugby league. I cracked first

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Speaker 1: After that first meeting, they stayed in touch.

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Speaker 5: Over many years. I became friends with Allan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So would you consider him a close friend or

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Speaker 5: Well, we've probably ended up as class friends. So I

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Speaker 1: Michael had made decent money in his sporting career, and

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Speaker 1: outside of putting some into his family business, he hadn't

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Speaker 5: I didn't really know what he was talking about, but

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Speaker 1: And we just thought, you know, how is this and

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Speaker 5: Well, as we gradually build up. Even at one stage

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Speaker 5: So all up, over many years we probably put around

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Speaker 5: The way people would get involved through me is if

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Speaker 5: I'm going to a football reunion or catching up with

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Speaker 5: people's school unions. You know, that's a blakie what are

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Speaker 5: you up to? And I speak to him about what

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Speaker 5: I'm up to, and I'd mention safe World, how I

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Speaker 5: supposed to be bigger than Google. It could be worth

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Speaker 5: then they'd get back in contact with me, and I said, well,

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Speaker 5: don't speak to me, I know nothing about it. Speak

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Speaker 5: to Alan. And they'd speak to Alan, get in contact

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Speaker 5: with him, and they'd invest, you know, they'd invests like

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Speaker 5: got them to speak to Alan.

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Speaker 1: Years later, a lot of his friends are not so

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Speaker 5: When they find out how much that I've lost in it,

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Speaker 1: Listening to Michael, I start to realize how much of

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Speaker 1: this comes down to belief. Michael believed in Alan, and

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Speaker 1: he believed in Alan's vision, and in turn, his friends

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Speaker 5: I've kind of a bit taken aback because a lot

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Speaker 5: And I feel as it was a little bit yearsed.

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Speaker 1: Probably while Michael Blake trusted Alan blindly, not everyone did.

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Speaker 1: I seen one, two three?

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Speaker 8: How much is that doggie in the window? One with

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Speaker 6: Nice?

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Speaker 8: My name is David Richardson. I'm a senior producer with

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Speaker 8: Under Investigation with Lis Hayes and I operate from Channel

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Speaker 1: David Richardson is an investigative journalist who's been in the

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Speaker 8: For David, My spider senses were tingling something bad. Alan

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Speaker 8: and they set up a meeting in town, and Michael

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Speaker 8: he started to explain this safe World's concept, which to

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Speaker 8: The whole concept of universal logic was that regardless of

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Speaker 1: David was skeptical, especially when he learned that this key

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Speaker 8: And being an ancient history nut, I said to me instantly,

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Speaker 1: And there were other things that David found unbelievable too.

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Speaker 8: I went down to look at an office space that

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Speaker 1: As well as spreading the word in his network, he

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Speaker 1: started working for the company himself.

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Speaker 5: I ended up on an advisory board, but I think

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Speaker 5: that was mainly because Allan liked me and because of

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Speaker 5: my contacts and the contacts that my contacts had. But

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Speaker 5: the thing about the advisory board, we weren't listened to,

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Speaker 5: you know. But if it had it came off and

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Speaker 5: it was big like it was, I would have been

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Speaker 5: ridiculous because I know nothing about it. I've got no

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Speaker 5: interest in it. I don't like using the computer. If

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Speaker 5: everybody don't use the internet, unless I have done that,

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Speaker 5: it would have been weird being involved in something this.

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Speaker 4: Big, you know.

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Speaker 1: David watched his friends like Michael, getting more and more

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Speaker 1: involved with Alan and investing more and more of their money.

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Speaker 1: He decided to do something, so he started digging, but

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Speaker 1: couldn't find any real signs of Safe Worlds being anything

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Speaker 1: like the potential global technology superstar was being preached.

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Speaker 8: Us and the whole time too in the back ground.

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Speaker 8: After about eighteen months was us pushing like, okay, when

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Speaker 8: are we going to see this? When are we going

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Speaker 8: to see it? You know, show me universal logic, show

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Speaker 8: it to me, show me how it would show it

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Speaker 8: to me. You know, is it like cryptocurrency that it's

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Speaker 8: just this dollar signs in fresh air or is it real?

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Speaker 8: I mean, show me how this works and show me

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Speaker 8: the program, show me the Safe World Sight in Australia,

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Speaker 8: show me all this stuff. And it was just so

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Speaker 8: long in coming that I thought, where's all this money going?

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Speaker 8: Because I knew that there were people who were investing,

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Speaker 8: you know, not just tens of thousands, but hundreds of thousands.

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Speaker 8: I knew people who were investing their superannuation money. It

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Speaker 8: just gobsmacked me that people were willing to invest. But

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Speaker 8: you know, because of the IT boom and because of

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Speaker 8: the success of companies like Amazon and eBay, everyone was

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Speaker 8: looking for that next big thing and they thought, well,

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Speaker 8: if we can get in on the ground floor, fabulous.

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Speaker 5: He always used to say, trust me, trust me, and

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Speaker 5: I trusted him, but he didn't trust anyone else.

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Speaker 1: Michael Blake, the former footy player who became close friends

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Speaker 1: with Alan, started worrying he might have a problem.

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Speaker 5: We had some pretty big guys that were willing to help,

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Speaker 5: and he wouldn't let go. He wouldn't trust them, basically

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Speaker 5: because he thought it was too big.

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Speaker 1: One time, Allan even had a meeting with an IT

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Speaker 1: expert who had extensive contacts in the military.

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Speaker 5: Alan said he was the smartest IT person he's ever met,

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Speaker 5: and he goes, Alan, you might have real artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 5: I'll sign an NDA shame. If you got it, we'll

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Speaker 5: get it going mate, and he refused to do it.

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Speaker 5: He did so I can't trust him. I can't trust him.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that was because he didn't trust him

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Speaker 1: all because he didn't actually have the product to show.

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Speaker 5: Well, it didn't make sense to me, but maybe he

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Speaker 5: didn't have anything to shape.

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Speaker 1: As I started to dig, I found more and more

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Speaker 1: people who had invested their money. One person put in

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Speaker 1: one point five million dollars. Entire families staked their fortune

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Speaker 1: on the venture. Michael Blake wasn't even the biggest recruiter

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Speaker 1: for Safe Worlds. Another man raised fifteen million dollars from

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Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty other people. Some of them wouldn't

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Speaker 1: speak to me because they were afraid it would impact

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Speaker 1: their chances of getting their money back. In total, Allen

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Speaker 1: managed to raise forty nine million dollars from his friends,

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Speaker 1: their families, and other small time investors. And perhaps that's

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Speaker 1: the craziest part of this whole thing. That's a lot

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Speaker 1: of money. To put in context. Forty nine million dollars

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Speaker 1: is about one hundred ferraris forty yachts. It's more than

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Speaker 1: twice the amount that infamous Sydney conwoman Melissa Caatics scammed

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Speaker 1: out of people, which was twenty three million. Forty nine

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Speaker 1: million could buy you forty nine houses in Sydney, well

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Speaker 1: maybe more like Melbourne these days. If you looked at

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Speaker 1: Alan's website, you'd never guess that this was the business

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Speaker 1: he'd founded with that much money. Www dot safeworlds dot tv.

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Speaker 1: When I try to access it now, I get an

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Speaker 1: Era four or four not found. But looking back at

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Speaker 1: old videos and screenshots of the website, I can see

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Speaker 1: an amateurish layout, like something straight out of the nineties,

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Speaker 1: not a slick, multimillion dollar outfit. And by the time

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Speaker 1: Alan died, there was no one left working at the place.

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Speaker 1: Michael Blake tells me about how he heard that his

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Speaker 1: friend had died.

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Speaker 5: I remember because I was at a care of beach

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Speaker 5: for a function for a weekend and that with a

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Speaker 5: few mates, and I was just walking along the beach

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Speaker 5: with a bit of a hangover when I got a

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Speaker 5: phone call from Mary saying I've got some bad news

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Speaker 5: for it. And I kind of knew before it's even

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Speaker 5: told me said Alan's passed away.

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Speaker 8: We're all in shop.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Alan's death was a personal tragedy, but Michael realized there

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Speaker 1: was also something else. Unresolved. With his passing, Alan had

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Speaker 1: no heir to take over the business. No one knew

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Speaker 1: what was supposed to happen now that he was dead.

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Speaker 5: As far as I understand, he had the algorithm in

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Speaker 5: a safety secure box or something in the Cayman Islands

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Speaker 5: and that was the protection of the algorithm, and he

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Speaker 5: gifted it to charity if something happened to him and

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Speaker 5: Mary or whatever. He was very protective of it. He

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Speaker 5: always said, if it got in the wrong hand, it

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Speaker 5: could destroy the world.

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Speaker 1: So Alan had been thinking about the future. But according

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Speaker 1: to Michael, he had planned so little for his death

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Speaker 1: that his wife and son were unable to front the

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Speaker 1: costs for his funeral.

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Speaker 10: Just for.

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Speaker 5: Paying some bills, internet bills, phone bills, the registration of

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Speaker 5: the liquid gold in the Cayman Islands or whatever it was,

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Speaker 5: and just a few things and that, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I popularnum, I don't know, thirty or forty thousand dollars

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Speaker 5: or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, and did they ever pay it back? Were you

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Speaker 1: just kind of never asked for it or how did

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Speaker 1: that work?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: Mary said that she'll pay me back tenfil when the

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Speaker 5: Irish steal comes off.

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Speaker 1: The Irish deal was supposedly where an irishman was going

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Speaker 1: to buy the whole business for more than a billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: And as for the liquid gold, Michael mentioned it was

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Speaker 1: linked to a digital currency business Alan had opened in

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Speaker 1: the Cayman Islands. I'll explain more in a later episode,

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Speaker 1: I promise. At this point, I'm going to pause for

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Speaker 1: a moment because, dear listener, I have a confession. If

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Speaker 1: you're thinking that Alan might not have been entirely upfront

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Speaker 1: with his investors, well I have to confess that I

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Speaker 1: haven't been entirely upfront with you. I said I'd started

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Speaker 1: this podcast at the end with Alan's funeral, but actually

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Speaker 1: this is just the beginning. Mike Crusade find the missing

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Speaker 1: money has taken me all over the country, to most

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Speaker 1: of the capital cities and also a tiny town in

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Speaker 1: Western Australia which could be the key to it all.

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Speaker 1: The search for the millions has also led me to

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Speaker 1: notorious tax havens like the British Virgin Islands, and had

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Speaker 1: me trying to track down an Irish billionaire. At times,

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Speaker 1: I've been looking over my shoulder for Russian cronies. My

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Speaker 1: investigation will take me from Australia's richest woman, to this

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Speaker 1: nation's most controversial politician, all the way to the Tea

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Speaker 1: Party and ex US President Donald Trump. It might have

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Speaker 1: begun at Allen's funeral, but his story is far from over.

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Speaker 5: How could you do it?

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Speaker 4: He was basically version point five of Trump as a question.

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Speaker 6: Just so, all of this is just crazy. I can't

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Speaker 6: do this.

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Speaker 2: You claim that he was the savior of the or

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Speaker 2: could be the savior of the world if it all

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Speaker 2: turned out right.

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Speaker 8: For him, you know, and for us. There's a hidden partner.

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Speaker 8: There's somebody else involved in this is the other persons

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Speaker 8: spider at the center of the web. The only other

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Speaker 8: alternative is that he's not there and that he's in

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Speaker 8: fact living off the money.

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