WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 20 August 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:06.199 Late Welcome the Late pay. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.280 Good Evening. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Dora and Joe Hildebrand. 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:14.640 Have you ever had a boss tell you, hey, that's 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:18.000 not a two person job. Will Some librarians in South 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.600 Australia have come up with a hilarious take on that 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.520 that's gone viral around the world. Will show you a 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.840 little later. Plus, when we look at what's making news 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:30.479 in tomorrow's papers, Australia's security agencies are warning assi's about 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.800 the threat of Can you guess what the threat is? 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.800 If you guessed misogyny, you'd be right. That's in the 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:40.120 papers tomorrow, as well as an American comedian touring Australia 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.560 accusing Victoria of being a racist state, claiming he was 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.519 racially profiled at Melbourne Airport. All of that when we 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:51.320 get to tomorrow's papers. But first, women are accusing the 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:56.520 AFL of jeopardizing safety and trashing fairness in women's football 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.960 by allowing anyone who identifies as a woman to compare 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.200 meat at a community level. Now, when it comes to 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.240 the elite level of AFL, the code has pretty strict 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:12.240 standards regarding transgender players, which effectively bans them from taking part. 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:17.080 But their gender inclusion policy when it comes to grassroots football, 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:21.600 well it's almost offensively inclusive. Have listened to Sky News 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.480 reporter Caroline Marcus explaining. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:29.200 Jill Chalmers spent many years creating a Masters league for 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.840 women who'd missed out on playing footy when young because 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.400 there'd been no options for them. Now she's fighting a 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:37.120 new battle. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.959 We're just calling on everyone to have option, to feel 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:42.280 safe and have a fair go. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.840 The Melbourne teammates is speaking out about the AFL's gender 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:51.840 diversity policy, formed after the league banned trans player Hannah 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:57.200 Mounci from playing AFLW in twenty seventeen. While elite and 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:02.320 state competitions now require transpla players to undergo testosterone and 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:06.960 physical testing, at the community level, anyone who identifies as 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:11.520 a woman can play. Safety risks dismissed as a myth. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.920 That's quite astonishing that the AFL claimed now there's no 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.760 safety risks allowing biological men to play against women. That's 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.360 all a myth. But it gets even crazy. Let me 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.800 read to you from the AFL's gender diversity policy. It 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:30.600 says in community football, social inclusion, which is an interesting phrase, 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:35.960 has a greater priority than concerns about possible competitive advantages. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:41.720 If gender diverse players participate, it's an extraordinary admission that 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.560 social inclusion is the main priority when it comes to 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.560 grassroots football, not the safety of women or the fairness 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.520 of the sport. And Joe and Liz. The other thing 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:55.400 that strikes me about that policy is the abcuse phrasing. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:59.640 They say social inclusion, What the heck is social inclusion? 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.480 And then they talk about gender diverse footballers. What's a 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.840 gender diverse footballer? Is surely what they mean by social 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:10.560 inclusion and gender diversity is biological men. But the reason 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.200 they don't say that is because we all know that 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.720 concerns about possible physical advantages are real concerns. It's not 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:22.440 a possibility, it's a biological fact. Men are stronger and 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.720 generally larger than women. It's not fair and it's not safe. 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.200 No in the AFL have now set up this ridiculous 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:33.560 system whereby the recognize it's not safe or fair at 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:37.520 an elite level, but in community football they say, oh, well, 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.760 different levels of sport have different priorities, So at the 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.560 community level it's more. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:43.880 About social inclusion. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:47.360 At the elite level, it is more about competition, and 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.080 that's why we've done it the way that we've done it. 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.480 Shouldn't you just do the whole thing according to what 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.600 is safest for the women playing. At a really important 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.120 point that needs to be made is unity football. 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.000 If anything, these women. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:07.119 Are more vulnerable to playing with biological men because they're 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.920 not the fittest, they're not the biggest, they're not the toughest. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.520 They are in fact older, they're thirty five plus, just 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.200 always wanted to pay AFL. Back in their day, there 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.000 were no options for women to play the great game. 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.240 So now they're living out their dream much older in life. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.560 But it's fair as long as we're all a bit 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.760 older and we're all a bit softer, and we're all 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.400 just having a bit of fun kicking around a ball 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.000 until you get a man with the right pronouns rocking up. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.400 And these women are now being forced to risk their 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.640 well being or opt out. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.080 And that's what the league is now seeing. In community football, 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:47.880 women are just. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:54.000 Not self censoring, but taking self, yes self excluding taking 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.560 themselves out of the game because when you're a bit 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.680 older and injury can set you back for forever. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:03.520 As the only person on the panel, I'm pretty sure 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:07.600 who has some experience in gender diverse football. I feel 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:12.400 like I, well, it was the under eleven's Daninong red legs. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.120 It was the Daninong primary school team where I was 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.839 occasionally allowed to play in the back pocket. I was 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.000 not very good and that was the least important position, 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.479 and so they'd sometimes let me have that. I once 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.200 almost played a full game. Incredible, you wouldn't believe it. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.919 Point being, I was raised by hippies and my mother. 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.400 When I was lucky enough to get a home haircut, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.160 I would get one, but they were few and far between. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.560 I certainly never saw the inside of a barbershop and 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.040 so I had quite long hair. When I was in 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.120 grade five and six and one of the members of 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.479 the opposing team at a particular match said to the 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.839 captain of our team, Hey, I didn't know you let 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.880 girls play on your team. I was that girl. So 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:59.840 I was a pioneer for breaking down gender barriers in 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.360 in AFL. Thank you, thank you. I thought it would 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:09.400 be that that is an absolute true story. That is 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:10.120 a carcare fruct. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.800 But Dandenong in that age bracket, there weren't enough girls 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.480 who wanted to play so they were just like. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.279 I just looked like a girl, that's all. I just 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.600 looked like a girl. That's it. That's it. 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.080 But back to the AFL's policy. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.000 But back the AL policy. You agree with it, I 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.279 am going to trigger everybody. What you're saying it is 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.200 actually very consistent. But they're saying that at an elite level, 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.880 it's all about the competition, but at the community and 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.839 grassroots level, it's all about getting out there encouraging as many. 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.760 People the safety and well being of the play. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.080 I haven't actually, well, they haven't really sort of set 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.480 that as a criteria. The reason that they didn't allow 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.839 an Amounci to play was because you had to dispel 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:52.680 perceptions of physical advantages. It said so, so it was 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:54.640 because they didn't want it to be or to be 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.440 perceived to be that she had a physical advantage. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.240 Even the language of perceived to be is insult to 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:04.159 people with a mediocre of intelligence and experience. It's not 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.160 a perception of physical I think. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.200 But also at the elite level, you would have to 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:09.560 see it with your own eye. I thought at the 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.640 elite level you would have the risk, and I think 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.680 in some cases it seems like this is something that 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.760 has happened of people who are so obsessed with sport 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.920 that they think, well, I wasn't much good as a bloke, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.800 but maybe if I can find a way to compete 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.880 in the women's in the women's competition, I can get 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.040 a higher result. So it eliminates the risk of someone 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.040 trying to game the system by playing in as a woman, 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.320 even though they have the advantage of being born a 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.560 man and testosterone in order to win. If someone is 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.920 just playing for the fun of it, then clearly that 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:43.920 is not going to attract people who are trying to 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:45.280 do anything to their bodies. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:46.880 It takes the fun out of it. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.880 For women who are thirty five plus, you just want 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:54.160 to play AFL with other rather inexperience. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.200 No pros on the field. 0:07:55.440 --> 0:08:01.720 Type women argue they are more vulnerable to the dominance 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:02.040 of them. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:03.880 And I say that every time this issue comes from 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.080 I'm still just not entirely convinced that a lot of 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.920 these are sort of hypothetical scenarios that aren't necessarily playing 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.720 out in great numbers across the community. Like I'm not 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.120 sure if is there a particular transplayer who has showed 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:18.360 up to play for this this community football this over. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.120 Clearly they are, because we're hearing reports from that community 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.400 that these women are just opting out because they don't 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:25.640 want to risk the injury. 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.040 That's when man rots up. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.960 That's right, But is it a particular person all say 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:31.960 people are saying, I don't want to play in it 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.480 if there's a possibility that this could happen. But are 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.840 we talking about an actual scenario where someone's rocked up 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.240 and said, you know, hi, my name's Wonder and I 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.680 want to play football. I just I'm not convinced that 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.120 this is this vast kind of epidemic across the community. 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.240 One instance, just one time. Wouldn't that be enough to 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.240 say you can't have women's sport with any integrity if 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.320 it's got biological men involved. So whether it's a risk, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.360 whether it's fair, whether people want to compete or they're 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.400 just having fun. The point is, if you're going to 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.920 have a sport that you say this is a women's competition, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.160 then it's either a women's competition, or. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.240 Again, but again and again, if it is an elite 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.000 competition where it is all about. 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.280 The you know people, rich community people. 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:14.240 So my son plays on a. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:19.079 Mixed mix, he's a guy, so he's not really risking 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:20.240 injury playing. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.840 With What about the girl who's playing? What about the 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:23.400 girls playing? 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:28.160 Be perfectly fine with your daughters, say they're teenagers looking 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:29.720 up and having guys. 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.400 Daughter also plays on a mix soccerate. I know this 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.640 is shocking, my daughter plays. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:36.080 It's not. 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.640 Everything's different when suddenly the argument from one Okay, well, 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.600 you know i FL is different to rugby league, and 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.760 rugby league is different to powerlifting, where it's not a 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.080 contact ruffle the game. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.360 The more stringent the rules need to be in order 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:49.640 to ensure women's safety. 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.320 Okay, so weightlifting's okay, then it's not a contact sport. 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:53.880 But it's also insulting to say. 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:55.200 Like what is it? Is it the safety or the 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.160 competitive advantage? 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.280 It's all of those things, but if it was none 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.360 of those things. The bottom line is, if you're going 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.160 to call it women's sport, then you can't have biological 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.760 men competing, whether advantage or no advantage, safe or unsafe. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.200 See the female sport where it's not. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.600 And this comes down to one thing, and one thing alone. 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.520 Nearly every sporting code has fallen foul of it, and 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:19.600 that is weak leadership. You cannot even acknowledge the nose 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.600 on your face, and now AFL has egg all over 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.480 that face because they can acknowledge it. At one level, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:29.160 that's okay, yep, no men allowed in the elite levels. 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.960 But community, you guys are just about having a good 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.400 time and therefore you guys can suck it up. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.240 It's inherently unfair. 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.920 It's patently basically begging women to take a beating. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.240 For a cause that they didn't sign up for. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.680 But the Sporting Code has Let's move to EV vehicles now, 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.800 because we all know the government remember one of Labour's 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:57.320 pre election policies that by twenty thirty the vast majority 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.080 of cars sold in Australia. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.520 Word b evs. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.880 Of course, a very big problem is there's not enough charges. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.360 So even now people who have bought an EV are like, 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.959 where am I supposed to fuel up with electricity still 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:18.120 generated by fossil fuels, but somehow it's better for the environment. Well, 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:21.160 ampole has just put a dent in those plans by 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:26.040 the Australian government, pulling the plug on their plans, saying actually, 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.720 initially this was a good idea, now. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:29.920 It's not looking so good. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:34.040 Here's Chris Bowen on the second of August, just earlier 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.320 this month, promising that it's all going. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.240 To be fine. We're investing in more ev charges. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.640 Everyone take a back seat, We're taking care of it. 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:46.400 It's money that we're announcing today will support am Pole 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.600 in rolling out two hundred new charges by twenty twenty five. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.359 And this is key. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:57.000 Now Ampole have dialed back their plans to roll out 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.480 all these charges, saying we actually all read we have 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:05.760 one hundred chargers that are either already built or underway 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:10.400 in Australia and New Zealand, we just can't connect them. 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.280 To the grid. The grid is the problem. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.080 I've been saying this for so long about renewables because 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:21.400 our grid was not designed to accommodate renewable energy, and 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.839 so the amount of money that we've already spent on 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.079 the grid, we only have one grid. You can come 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.199 up with any number of sources of energy that you want. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.559 The grid is going to be a big pullback here 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.559 because it's simply not designed for renewable. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.240 There's nothing to do with being designed for renewable energy. 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.440 It's not designed for the level of power that would 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.480 be necessary in an entirely electric economy. 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:50.920 So exactly designed energy. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.760 Well, the renewable energy that comes in, it can come 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.720 in from anywhere. The grid has no problem. 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:57.560 We just handling that ounce of it. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:02.400 The amount required to power and all electric economy. So 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.400 where electricity takes the place of gas takes, the place 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.200 of petroleum takes, the place of oil takes, the place 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.439 of everything. That is the problem. And everyone has known that, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.640 Everyone has known that the capacity of the grid needs 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.840 to be built up enormously to transition. I hate that 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.880 word so much to this this new all electric economy, 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.440 and it's part of what people electrify everything, sort of 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.160 what they're doing in Victoria and basically. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.320 How electrified cars and war and behind. 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.240 Unless you do it, and that's right. So unless you 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.640 have the capacity in the grid, entire electric dream falls apart. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.280 So you've got to make sure that you can get 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.240 enough you get enough power in there before you start 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.760 talking about taking power out. And clearly they're just not 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.040 keeping pace. So it is an issue, but it's not 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.520 it's not this incompatible with renewable energy. 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.840 It's that the sheerest is for the reason style different. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.080 Renewable energy is just a description of where energy comes from. 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:51.959 The source of the energy. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:53.800 The problem is when you're plug in your car, it's 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.200 not like plugging in a kettle. You're plugging. It sucks 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.400 so much power from the grid that the gas simply 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.400 there's not a supplying it. This is a great example 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.120 of how life can come at you very quickly. Am 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.840 Pole announced they had ninety two charges, but they wanted 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.480 three hundred by the end of the year. And Chris 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.320 Bowen's excited, Chris Ampole on board. And so it's only 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.880 eighteen days ago. You saw the video that he announces 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.440 We're going to give millions to Ampole to help them 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.880 do this, and here we are just three weeks after that. 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.480 Having said that, not even an Ampole have pulled up. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.440 I think the biggest challenge for EV drivers at the 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.440 moment is that Elon Musk interviewed Donald Trubb and now 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.000 the Tea and Enzla that everyone is driving I'm saving 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.720 the planet now stands for Trump lover, which I just 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.760 find delicious by that. 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:44.280 I do not buy that at all. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:49.320 I mean, the stats show that hybrids are most people's 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:50.960 car of choice nowadays. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.640 So as much as the government has put in these fuel. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:58.320 Efficiency standards and trying to gradually make life harder for 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.360 those of us who drive petrol cars, which is no 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.680 problem to the grid. Petrol it up, baby, The grid 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.760 is completely unaffected. And then we wonder why thousands of 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:09.800 cars relying solely on the grid. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.520 The grid's packing it in the grid's I can't do this. 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:18.280 According to the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries, there's a mouthful. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.720 Hybrid sales are up eighty eight point four percent in 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.240 July compared to the same month last year, so that 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:30.520 is a massive, massive increase, while EV sales were up 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.320 six point six of new vehicle sales in July, which 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:35.239 was down. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.920 From the prior year in July. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:41.040 So instead of the government going okay, this isn't taking 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.400 off as planned, on the first of August, they came 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.240 out and said we're doubling our funding for our Driving 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:52.240 the Nation fund. It's now at five hundred million instead 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.920 of two fifty million. So I want to know how 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:59.200 much a tax payers fitting the bill for this green 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.680 dream of our governments. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.560 Which one hundred million dollars in this case, according to 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:04.200 the article. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.200 In the case of EV's has shown that people aren't 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.280 even buying the cars, and yet they keep just investing 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.760 more and more and more while putting the screws in 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.880 petrol car drivers trying to jimmy the system. 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.800 It's not working. The market says no. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.200 But even in the electric market, Tesla is also losing 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.080 market share. And I am convinced it is because all 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.560 the virtue signaling EV drivers who want to show what 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.640 wonderful people they are so now suddenly mortified that they 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:38.320 are driving Lord must personify automotive. I'm convinced. I'm absolutely 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.160 convinced it is because there's no there's no escaping from it. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.200 But that aside the reason people are investing. 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.200 You can't put that aside. It's the best part. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.360 Putting the best part aside. The reason people are investing 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.240 in evs is because they're sorry in hybrids. It's because 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.520 they're hedging their bets, that's right, because you just don't 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.320 trust this government to roll this out properly, and why 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.920 would you. So people are saying, well, you know, well, 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:04.159 I can't go fully electric because as too takes too 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.160 long to charge the thing at home. If I'm traveling, 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:08.440 I'm not sure I'm going to be able to find 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:12.000 a charger, so I'll make sure I've got an electric option. 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.800 As well as a fuel option, because why would you 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.280 trust Chris Bowen when they've just got no track record 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.879 of having been able to deliver anything at all. Speaking 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.879 of delivering in the UK, we know there's been riots 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.000 for the past couple of weeks. After three young girls 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.080 were stabbed to death. A rumor went around the UK 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:34.439 that it was a immigration or recently arrived refugee ratherho 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.760 had been on a terror watch list. That proved to 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:41.040 be untrue. But people reacted not just to that incident 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.320 but to a number of incidents that have created a 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.000 lot of tension. So the UK police have been busy 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.600 rounding people up, arresting them for rioting, but also for 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:55.760 making mean tweets and unsavory Facebook posts criticizing the government. 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.600 They've rounded up so many people, making a thousand arrests 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:04.200 and charging four hundred and seventy people that they're literally 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.760 running out of prison cells in which to put them. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.880 So the governments come up with this plan called Operation 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:15.560 Early Dawn. For every rioter or Facebook poster they put 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.080 in prison, they release somebody who was already serving time. 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.880 A wonderful thing if you were sitting in prison thinking 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.280 I've got so long to go in my sentence. Now 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:25.720 the government have said, you know what, you only have 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:29.119 to serve forty percent of your original sentence because we 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.440 need you out so we can get these rioters and 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:36.200 Facebook posters in. Here is the Prison Officers Association chair 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.560 Mark Fairhurst explaining we. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.320 Will guarantee a prison cell. We will make sure that 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.920 those people who need to be in prison will be 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.440 in prison, not necessarily in the area where they live. 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.280 They may be two three hundred miles away from home, 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.000 but we will guarantee people at prison cell. 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.760 With the numbers are so tired there, how can you 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:56.640 make that guarantee? 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.280 The are tait And that's why we've initiated Operation Early Dawn. 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.520 So basically the easiest way to describe it is one in, 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:07.679 one out, So as people get released, we can then 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.119 pick up people from police cells and take them to 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.840 court and we will triage that three times a day. 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.240 So it's one in one out. Now I should point 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.879 out that doesn't apply to sex offenders, people on domestic 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.399 violence charges or terrorists. But Joe, if you were sitting 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.639 in a UK prison serving your time for any other crime, 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.560 you'd be pretty happy about this, wouldn't you. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:33.720 It's just so cooked from what he's saying. My understanding 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.640 is it's more that instead of these people being sentenced 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.040 in actually going to prison, which is where you go 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.240 after you've being sentenced, they will still be continued to 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.520 be held in jails or police cells and they will 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.320 just wait there until the next prisoner gets through. Layd say, hey, yah, 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.080 Harry's got parole. Who okay? And you go mate? You 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.280 know what was it you said on Facebook? Oh yeah, 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.000 you'll be in here for a while. So I think 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.520 that that is what they're doing. I hope, against hope 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.040 that they are not actually releasing early in all. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.359 They are policy. I just you only that is forty 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.480 of your original center operation Early Dawn. 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.119 You literally just described it. 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:09.480 Joe. 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.720 This cannot cannot, this cannot be Western civilization. 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.120 But this, this is necessary because we need to deal 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.680 with people who are posting tweets critical of the government. 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.000 Oh absolutely, those Facebook posts. 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.720 Remember the stories that we bought you last Thursday. Here's 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.960 old mate, he's sixty one years old. He got something 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:35.240 like twenty months in prison for simply chanting at a 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:36.399 rally where I've. 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:40.959 Seen hundreds of people chant this in unison. Allah allah 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.439 who the f is allah. He's gone to jail. 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:48.000 So when we're talking about this onslaught of protesters that 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:52.440