Speaker 1: Late Welcome the Late pay.
Speaker 2: Good Evening. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Dora and Joe Hildebrand.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had a boss tell you, hey, that's
Speaker 2: not a two person job. Will Some librarians in South
Speaker 2: Australia have come up with a hilarious take on that
Speaker 2: that's gone viral around the world. Will show you a
Speaker 2: little later. Plus, when we look at what's making news
Speaker 2: in tomorrow's papers, Australia's security agencies are warning assi's about
Speaker 2: the threat of Can you guess what the threat is?
Speaker 2: If you guessed misogyny, you'd be right. That's in the
Speaker 2: papers tomorrow, as well as an American comedian touring Australia
Speaker 2: accusing Victoria of being a racist state, claiming he was
Speaker 2: racially profiled at Melbourne Airport. All of that when we
Speaker 2: get to tomorrow's papers. But first, women are accusing the
Speaker 2: AFL of jeopardizing safety and trashing fairness in women's football
Speaker 2: by allowing anyone who identifies as a woman to compare
Speaker 2: meat at a community level. Now, when it comes to
Speaker 2: the elite level of AFL, the code has pretty strict
Speaker 2: standards regarding transgender players, which effectively bans them from taking part.
Speaker 2: But their gender inclusion policy when it comes to grassroots football,
Speaker 2: well it's almost offensively inclusive. Have listened to Sky News
Speaker 2: reporter Caroline Marcus explaining.
Speaker 3: Jill Chalmers spent many years creating a Masters league for
Speaker 3: women who'd missed out on playing footy when young because
Speaker 3: there'd been no options for them. Now she's fighting a
Speaker 3: new battle.
Speaker 4: We're just calling on everyone to have option, to feel
Speaker 4: safe and have a fair go.
Speaker 3: The Melbourne teammates is speaking out about the AFL's gender
Speaker 3: diversity policy, formed after the league banned trans player Hannah
Speaker 3: Mounci from playing AFLW in twenty seventeen. While elite and
Speaker 3: state competitions now require transpla players to undergo testosterone and
Speaker 3: physical testing, at the community level, anyone who identifies as
Speaker 3: a woman can play. Safety risks dismissed as a myth.
Speaker 2: That's quite astonishing that the AFL claimed now there's no
Speaker 2: safety risks allowing biological men to play against women. That's
Speaker 2: all a myth. But it gets even crazy. Let me
Speaker 2: read to you from the AFL's gender diversity policy. It
Speaker 2: says in community football, social inclusion, which is an interesting phrase,
Speaker 2: has a greater priority than concerns about possible competitive advantages.
Speaker 2: If gender diverse players participate, it's an extraordinary admission that
Speaker 2: social inclusion is the main priority when it comes to
Speaker 2: grassroots football, not the safety of women or the fairness
Speaker 2: of the sport. And Joe and Liz. The other thing
Speaker 2: that strikes me about that policy is the abcuse phrasing.
Speaker 2: They say social inclusion, What the heck is social inclusion?
Speaker 2: And then they talk about gender diverse footballers. What's a
Speaker 2: gender diverse footballer? Is surely what they mean by social
Speaker 2: inclusion and gender diversity is biological men. But the reason
Speaker 2: they don't say that is because we all know that
Speaker 2: concerns about possible physical advantages are real concerns. It's not
Speaker 2: a possibility, it's a biological fact. Men are stronger and
Speaker 2: generally larger than women. It's not fair and it's not safe.
Speaker 4: No in the AFL have now set up this ridiculous
Speaker 4: system whereby the recognize it's not safe or fair at
Speaker 4: an elite level, but in community football they say, oh, well,
Speaker 4: different levels of sport have different priorities, So at the
Speaker 4: community level it's more.
Speaker 5: About social inclusion.
Speaker 4: At the elite level, it is more about competition, and
Speaker 4: that's why we've done it the way that we've done it.
Speaker 4: Shouldn't you just do the whole thing according to what
Speaker 4: is safest for the women playing. At a really important
Speaker 4: point that needs to be made is unity football.
Speaker 5: If anything, these women.
Speaker 4: Are more vulnerable to playing with biological men because they're
Speaker 4: not the fittest, they're not the biggest, they're not the toughest.
Speaker 4: They are in fact older, they're thirty five plus, just
Speaker 4: always wanted to pay AFL. Back in their day, there
Speaker 4: were no options for women to play the great game.
Speaker 4: So now they're living out their dream much older in life.
Speaker 4: But it's fair as long as we're all a bit
Speaker 4: older and we're all a bit softer, and we're all
Speaker 4: just having a bit of fun kicking around a ball
Speaker 4: until you get a man with the right pronouns rocking up.
Speaker 4: And these women are now being forced to risk their
Speaker 4: well being or opt out.
Speaker 5: And that's what the league is now seeing. In community football,
Speaker 5: women are just.
Speaker 4: Not self censoring, but taking self, yes self excluding taking
Speaker 4: themselves out of the game because when you're a bit
Speaker 4: older and injury can set you back for forever.
Speaker 1: As the only person on the panel, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: who has some experience in gender diverse football. I feel
Speaker 1: like I, well, it was the under eleven's Daninong red legs.
Speaker 1: It was the Daninong primary school team where I was
Speaker 1: occasionally allowed to play in the back pocket. I was
Speaker 1: not very good and that was the least important position,
Speaker 1: and so they'd sometimes let me have that. I once
Speaker 1: almost played a full game. Incredible, you wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: Point being, I was raised by hippies and my mother.
Speaker 1: When I was lucky enough to get a home haircut,
Speaker 1: I would get one, but they were few and far between.
Speaker 1: I certainly never saw the inside of a barbershop and
Speaker 1: so I had quite long hair. When I was in
Speaker 1: grade five and six and one of the members of
Speaker 1: the opposing team at a particular match said to the
Speaker 1: captain of our team, Hey, I didn't know you let
Speaker 1: girls play on your team. I was that girl. So
Speaker 1: I was a pioneer for breaking down gender barriers in
Speaker 1: in AFL. Thank you, thank you. I thought it would
Speaker 1: be that that is an absolute true story. That is
Speaker 1: a carcare fruct.
Speaker 4: But Dandenong in that age bracket, there weren't enough girls
Speaker 4: who wanted to play so they were just like.
Speaker 1: I just looked like a girl, that's all. I just
Speaker 1: looked like a girl. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2: But back to the AFL's policy.
Speaker 1: But back the AL policy. You agree with it, I
Speaker 1: am going to trigger everybody. What you're saying it is
Speaker 1: actually very consistent. But they're saying that at an elite level,
Speaker 1: it's all about the competition, but at the community and
Speaker 1: grassroots level, it's all about getting out there encouraging as many.
Speaker 4: People the safety and well being of the play.
Speaker 1: I haven't actually, well, they haven't really sort of set
Speaker 1: that as a criteria. The reason that they didn't allow
Speaker 1: an Amounci to play was because you had to dispel
Speaker 1: perceptions of physical advantages. It said so, so it was
Speaker 1: because they didn't want it to be or to be
Speaker 1: perceived to be that she had a physical advantage.
Speaker 2: Even the language of perceived to be is insult to
Speaker 2: people with a mediocre of intelligence and experience. It's not
Speaker 2: a perception of physical I think.
Speaker 1: But also at the elite level, you would have to
Speaker 1: see it with your own eye. I thought at the
Speaker 1: elite level you would have the risk, and I think
Speaker 1: in some cases it seems like this is something that
Speaker 1: has happened of people who are so obsessed with sport
Speaker 1: that they think, well, I wasn't much good as a bloke,
Speaker 1: but maybe if I can find a way to compete
Speaker 1: in the women's in the women's competition, I can get
Speaker 1: a higher result. So it eliminates the risk of someone
Speaker 1: trying to game the system by playing in as a woman,
Speaker 1: even though they have the advantage of being born a
Speaker 1: man and testosterone in order to win. If someone is
Speaker 1: just playing for the fun of it, then clearly that
Speaker 1: is not going to attract people who are trying to
Speaker 1: do anything to their bodies.
Speaker 5: It takes the fun out of it.
Speaker 4: For women who are thirty five plus, you just want
Speaker 4: to play AFL with other rather inexperience.
Speaker 5: No pros on the field.
Speaker 4: Type women argue they are more vulnerable to the dominance
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 1: And I say that every time this issue comes from
Speaker 1: I'm still just not entirely convinced that a lot of
Speaker 1: these are sort of hypothetical scenarios that aren't necessarily playing
Speaker 1: out in great numbers across the community. Like I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if is there a particular transplayer who has showed
Speaker 1: up to play for this this community football this over.
Speaker 4: Clearly they are, because we're hearing reports from that community
Speaker 4: that these women are just opting out because they don't
Speaker 4: want to risk the injury.
Speaker 5: That's when man rots up.
Speaker 1: That's right, But is it a particular person all say
Speaker 1: people are saying, I don't want to play in it
Speaker 1: if there's a possibility that this could happen. But are
Speaker 1: we talking about an actual scenario where someone's rocked up
Speaker 1: and said, you know, hi, my name's Wonder and I
Speaker 1: want to play football. I just I'm not convinced that
Speaker 1: this is this vast kind of epidemic across the community.
Speaker 2: One instance, just one time. Wouldn't that be enough to
Speaker 2: say you can't have women's sport with any integrity if
Speaker 2: it's got biological men involved. So whether it's a risk,
Speaker 2: whether it's fair, whether people want to compete or they're
Speaker 2: just having fun. The point is, if you're going to
Speaker 2: have a sport that you say this is a women's competition,
Speaker 2: then it's either a women's competition, or.
Speaker 1: Again, but again and again, if it is an elite
Speaker 1: competition where it is all about.
Speaker 2: The you know people, rich community people.
Speaker 1: So my son plays on a.
Speaker 4: Mixed mix, he's a guy, so he's not really risking
Speaker 4: injury playing.
Speaker 1: With What about the girl who's playing? What about the
Speaker 1: girls playing?
Speaker 4: Be perfectly fine with your daughters, say they're teenagers looking
Speaker 4: up and having guys.
Speaker 1: Daughter also plays on a mix soccerate. I know this
Speaker 1: is shocking, my daughter plays.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 1: Everything's different when suddenly the argument from one Okay, well,
Speaker 1: you know i FL is different to rugby league, and
Speaker 1: rugby league is different to powerlifting, where it's not a
Speaker 1: contact ruffle the game.
Speaker 4: The more stringent the rules need to be in order
Speaker 4: to ensure women's safety.
Speaker 1: Okay, so weightlifting's okay, then it's not a contact sport.
Speaker 2: But it's also insulting to say.
Speaker 1: Like what is it? Is it the safety or the
Speaker 1: competitive advantage?
Speaker 2: It's all of those things, but if it was none
Speaker 2: of those things. The bottom line is, if you're going
Speaker 2: to call it women's sport, then you can't have biological
Speaker 2: men competing, whether advantage or no advantage, safe or unsafe.
Speaker 2: See the female sport where it's not.
Speaker 4: And this comes down to one thing, and one thing alone.
Speaker 4: Nearly every sporting code has fallen foul of it, and
Speaker 4: that is weak leadership. You cannot even acknowledge the nose
Speaker 4: on your face, and now AFL has egg all over
Speaker 4: that face because they can acknowledge it. At one level,
Speaker 4: that's okay, yep, no men allowed in the elite levels.
Speaker 4: But community, you guys are just about having a good
Speaker 4: time and therefore you guys can suck it up.
Speaker 5: It's inherently unfair.
Speaker 4: It's patently basically begging women to take a beating.
Speaker 5: For a cause that they didn't sign up for.
Speaker 4: But the Sporting Code has Let's move to EV vehicles now,
Speaker 4: because we all know the government remember one of Labour's
Speaker 4: pre election policies that by twenty thirty the vast majority
Speaker 4: of cars sold in Australia.
Speaker 5: Word b evs.
Speaker 4: Of course, a very big problem is there's not enough charges.
Speaker 4: So even now people who have bought an EV are like,
Speaker 4: where am I supposed to fuel up with electricity still
Speaker 4: generated by fossil fuels, but somehow it's better for the environment. Well,
Speaker 4: ampole has just put a dent in those plans by
Speaker 4: the Australian government, pulling the plug on their plans, saying actually,
Speaker 4: initially this was a good idea, now.
Speaker 5: It's not looking so good.
Speaker 4: Here's Chris Bowen on the second of August, just earlier
Speaker 4: this month, promising that it's all going.
Speaker 5: To be fine. We're investing in more ev charges.
Speaker 4: Everyone take a back seat, We're taking care of it.
Speaker 2: It's money that we're announcing today will support am Pole
Speaker 2: in rolling out two hundred new charges by twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: And this is key.
Speaker 4: Now Ampole have dialed back their plans to roll out
Speaker 4: all these charges, saying we actually all read we have
Speaker 4: one hundred chargers that are either already built or underway
Speaker 4: in Australia and New Zealand, we just can't connect them.
Speaker 5: To the grid. The grid is the problem.
Speaker 4: I've been saying this for so long about renewables because
Speaker 4: our grid was not designed to accommodate renewable energy, and
Speaker 4: so the amount of money that we've already spent on
Speaker 4: the grid, we only have one grid. You can come
Speaker 4: up with any number of sources of energy that you want.
Speaker 4: The grid is going to be a big pullback here
Speaker 4: because it's simply not designed for renewable.
Speaker 1: There's nothing to do with being designed for renewable energy.
Speaker 1: It's not designed for the level of power that would
Speaker 1: be necessary in an entirely electric economy.
Speaker 4: So exactly designed energy.
Speaker 1: Well, the renewable energy that comes in, it can come
Speaker 1: in from anywhere. The grid has no problem.
Speaker 5: We just handling that ounce of it.
Speaker 1: The amount required to power and all electric economy. So
Speaker 1: where electricity takes the place of gas takes, the place
Speaker 1: of petroleum takes, the place of oil takes, the place
Speaker 1: of everything. That is the problem. And everyone has known that,
Speaker 1: Everyone has known that the capacity of the grid needs
Speaker 1: to be built up enormously to transition. I hate that
Speaker 1: word so much to this this new all electric economy,
Speaker 1: and it's part of what people electrify everything, sort of
Speaker 1: what they're doing in Victoria and basically.
Speaker 5: How electrified cars and war and behind.
Speaker 1: Unless you do it, and that's right. So unless you
Speaker 1: have the capacity in the grid, entire electric dream falls apart.
Speaker 1: So you've got to make sure that you can get
Speaker 1: enough you get enough power in there before you start
Speaker 1: talking about taking power out. And clearly they're just not
Speaker 1: keeping pace. So it is an issue, but it's not
Speaker 1: it's not this incompatible with renewable energy.
Speaker 5: It's that the sheerest is for the reason style different.
Speaker 1: Renewable energy is just a description of where energy comes from.
Speaker 1: The source of the energy.
Speaker 2: The problem is when you're plug in your car, it's
Speaker 2: not like plugging in a kettle. You're plugging. It sucks
Speaker 2: so much power from the grid that the gas simply
Speaker 2: there's not a supplying it. This is a great example
Speaker 2: of how life can come at you very quickly. Am
Speaker 2: Pole announced they had ninety two charges, but they wanted
Speaker 2: three hundred by the end of the year. And Chris
Speaker 2: Bowen's excited, Chris Ampole on board. And so it's only
Speaker 2: eighteen days ago. You saw the video that he announces
Speaker 2: We're going to give millions to Ampole to help them
Speaker 2: do this, and here we are just three weeks after that.
Speaker 2: Having said that, not even an Ampole have pulled up.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest challenge for EV drivers at the
Speaker 1: moment is that Elon Musk interviewed Donald Trubb and now
Speaker 1: the Tea and Enzla that everyone is driving I'm saving
Speaker 1: the planet now stands for Trump lover, which I just
Speaker 1: find delicious by that.
Speaker 5: I do not buy that at all.
Speaker 4: I mean, the stats show that hybrids are most people's
Speaker 4: car of choice nowadays.
Speaker 5: So as much as the government has put in these fuel.
Speaker 4: Efficiency standards and trying to gradually make life harder for
Speaker 4: those of us who drive petrol cars, which is no
Speaker 4: problem to the grid. Petrol it up, baby, The grid
Speaker 4: is completely unaffected. And then we wonder why thousands of
Speaker 4: cars relying solely on the grid.
Speaker 5: The grid's packing it in the grid's I can't do this.
Speaker 4: According to the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries, there's a mouthful.
Speaker 4: Hybrid sales are up eighty eight point four percent in
Speaker 4: July compared to the same month last year, so that
Speaker 4: is a massive, massive increase, while EV sales were up
Speaker 4: six point six of new vehicle sales in July, which
Speaker 4: was down.
Speaker 5: From the prior year in July.
Speaker 4: So instead of the government going okay, this isn't taking
Speaker 4: off as planned, on the first of August, they came
Speaker 4: out and said we're doubling our funding for our Driving
Speaker 4: the Nation fund. It's now at five hundred million instead
Speaker 4: of two fifty million. So I want to know how
Speaker 4: much a tax payers fitting the bill for this green
Speaker 4: dream of our governments.
Speaker 1: Which one hundred million dollars in this case, according to
Speaker 1: the article.
Speaker 4: In the case of EV's has shown that people aren't
Speaker 4: even buying the cars, and yet they keep just investing
Speaker 4: more and more and more while putting the screws in
Speaker 4: petrol car drivers trying to jimmy the system.
Speaker 5: It's not working. The market says no.
Speaker 1: But even in the electric market, Tesla is also losing
Speaker 1: market share. And I am convinced it is because all
Speaker 1: the virtue signaling EV drivers who want to show what
Speaker 1: wonderful people they are so now suddenly mortified that they
Speaker 1: are driving Lord must personify automotive. I'm convinced. I'm absolutely
Speaker 1: convinced it is because there's no there's no escaping from it.
Speaker 2: But that aside the reason people are investing.
Speaker 1: You can't put that aside. It's the best part.
Speaker 2: Putting the best part aside. The reason people are investing
Speaker 2: in evs is because they're sorry in hybrids. It's because
Speaker 2: they're hedging their bets, that's right, because you just don't
Speaker 2: trust this government to roll this out properly, and why
Speaker 2: would you. So people are saying, well, you know, well,
Speaker 2: I can't go fully electric because as too takes too
Speaker 2: long to charge the thing at home. If I'm traveling,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'm going to be able to find
Speaker 2: a charger, so I'll make sure I've got an electric option.
Speaker 2: As well as a fuel option, because why would you
Speaker 2: trust Chris Bowen when they've just got no track record
Speaker 2: of having been able to deliver anything at all. Speaking
Speaker 2: of delivering in the UK, we know there's been riots
Speaker 2: for the past couple of weeks. After three young girls
Speaker 2: were stabbed to death. A rumor went around the UK
Speaker 2: that it was a immigration or recently arrived refugee ratherho
Speaker 2: had been on a terror watch list. That proved to
Speaker 2: be untrue. But people reacted not just to that incident
Speaker 2: but to a number of incidents that have created a
Speaker 2: lot of tension. So the UK police have been busy
Speaker 2: rounding people up, arresting them for rioting, but also for
Speaker 2: making mean tweets and unsavory Facebook posts criticizing the government.
Speaker 2: They've rounded up so many people, making a thousand arrests
Speaker 2: and charging four hundred and seventy people that they're literally
Speaker 2: running out of prison cells in which to put them.
Speaker 2: So the governments come up with this plan called Operation
Speaker 2: Early Dawn. For every rioter or Facebook poster they put
Speaker 2: in prison, they release somebody who was already serving time.
Speaker 2: A wonderful thing if you were sitting in prison thinking
Speaker 2: I've got so long to go in my sentence. Now
Speaker 2: the government have said, you know what, you only have
Speaker 2: to serve forty percent of your original sentence because we
Speaker 2: need you out so we can get these rioters and
Speaker 2: Facebook posters in. Here is the Prison Officers Association chair
Speaker 2: Mark Fairhurst explaining we.
Speaker 6: Will guarantee a prison cell. We will make sure that
Speaker 6: those people who need to be in prison will be
Speaker 6: in prison, not necessarily in the area where they live.
Speaker 6: They may be two three hundred miles away from home,
Speaker 6: but we will guarantee people at prison cell.
Speaker 1: With the numbers are so tired there, how can you
Speaker 1: make that guarantee?
Speaker 6: The are tait And that's why we've initiated Operation Early Dawn.
Speaker 6: So basically the easiest way to describe it is one in,
Speaker 6: one out, So as people get released, we can then
Speaker 6: pick up people from police cells and take them to
Speaker 6: court and we will triage that three times a day.
Speaker 2: So it's one in one out. Now I should point
Speaker 2: out that doesn't apply to sex offenders, people on domestic
Speaker 2: violence charges or terrorists. But Joe, if you were sitting
Speaker 2: in a UK prison serving your time for any other crime,
Speaker 2: you'd be pretty happy about this, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1: It's just so cooked from what he's saying. My understanding
Speaker 1: is it's more that instead of these people being sentenced
Speaker 1: in actually going to prison, which is where you go
Speaker 1: after you've being sentenced, they will still be continued to
Speaker 1: be held in jails or police cells and they will
Speaker 1: just wait there until the next prisoner gets through. Layd say, hey, yah,
Speaker 1: Harry's got parole. Who okay? And you go mate? You
Speaker 1: know what was it you said on Facebook? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll be in here for a while. So I think
Speaker 1: that that is what they're doing. I hope, against hope
Speaker 1: that they are not actually releasing early in all.
Speaker 2: They are policy. I just you only that is forty
Speaker 2: of your original center operation Early Dawn.
Speaker 5: You literally just described it.
Speaker 4: Joe.
Speaker 1: This cannot cannot, this cannot be Western civilization.
Speaker 2: But this, this is necessary because we need to deal
Speaker 2: with people who are posting tweets critical of the government.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, those Facebook posts.
Speaker 4: Remember the stories that we bought you last Thursday. Here's
Speaker 4: old mate, he's sixty one years old. He got something
Speaker 4: like twenty months in prison for simply chanting at a
Speaker 4: rally where I've.
Speaker 5: Seen hundreds of people chant this in unison. Allah allah
Speaker 5: who the f is allah. He's gone to jail.
Speaker 4: So when we're talking about this onslaught of protesters that
Speaker 4: they suddenly have to find all these prison positions for
Speaker 4: these are the kind of people that they're locking up.
Speaker 4: Then there was this older lady. I believe she's fifty
Speaker 4: three years of age. She has been sent to prison
Speaker 4: as well for a Facebook post.
Speaker 5: She is the sole carer for her.
Speaker 4: Disabled husband, and yet the state says no compassion for you.
Speaker 4: She's never been in trouble with the state before one
Speaker 4: Facebook post. You're going to jail for over a year.
Speaker 4: This is the insanity that is going on in the
Speaker 4: UK right now. No wonder their prisons are full, and
Speaker 4: now they're like, oh, got a solution, will release actual
Speaker 4: criminals serving their time in order to get the Facebook
Speaker 4: posters and the rioters who once again, yes, they are
Speaker 4: breaking the law and we do not condone that in
Speaker 4: any way, shape or form. But their angst is not
Speaker 4: being acknowledged.
Speaker 5: What has happened to the UK over the last few years.
Speaker 5: Nigel Faraj is very well versed on this.
Speaker 4: The amount of immigration, legal and illegal that has happened
Speaker 4: in the United Kingdom over the last term of the
Speaker 4: government is unprecedented and people are sick to death of it.
Speaker 5: It seems to be the only country in the world.
Speaker 4: Where we've got make sure that the Indigenous aren't colonized.
Speaker 4: Simply doesn't stand because England's wife, so colonizing.
Speaker 5: Them is perfectly fine.
Speaker 4: It seems to be this inverse colonization the natives, the
Speaker 4: indigenous in this case, the English have had enough. The
Speaker 4: government refuses to acknowledge.
Speaker 1: The English, English and Indigenous to England. Oh, here we go,
Speaker 1: the original original.
Speaker 4: If you watch the new Netflix series where Anne boy
Speaker 4: Lean is a black woman, do.
Speaker 5: You can do that?
Speaker 1: I don't believe that.
Speaker 5: I suppose all indigenous in England the.
Speaker 1: First Britons were Celts, and they were driven out by
Speaker 1: the Angles and the Saxons.
Speaker 5: And that they were.
Speaker 2: Just just getting back getting back white just white people
Speaker 2: getting back to this well, just getting back toue of
Speaker 2: releasing people from prison. So you can get these writers
Speaker 2: in at least they're consistent because I well remember during
Speaker 2: the Black Lives Matter protests, how they arrested thousands.
Speaker 1: That's right, right, that is bad in Hypocrisy is bad,
Speaker 1: and and that's writing is bad.
Speaker 2: Police.
Speaker 1: That's why it's bad when people write in the name
Speaker 1: of BLM, and it's bad when people write in the
Speaker 1: name of anti immigration.
Speaker 2: But is consistency. They didn't do that.
Speaker 1: I get that, but it just it just it still
Speaker 1: just doesn't wash with me that you know, we don't
Speaker 1: you know, we don't get out advance. But these people have,
Speaker 1: you know, angry for a reason. They're right to be
Speaker 1: angry or whatever I mean saying saying on social media
Speaker 1: we need to blow up the mosque. If not, you
Speaker 1: should be touched about.
Speaker 2: That's hate speech and it's instantly that's right. And if
Speaker 2: they said it about a synagogue, we'd all go crazy.
Speaker 4: She deleted the post, and I would think, given that
Speaker 4: she is the sole career for her husband, she obviously
Speaker 4: posted that in a moment of passion and regretted it
Speaker 4: deleted it took the sentence on the nose. But that
Speaker 4: is where you all eyes are on the state, going
Speaker 4: are you for real?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: But she deserved state.
Speaker 1: Incitement to violence has never ever been a tenant of actual,
Speaker 1: genuine free speech. And you can't go around saying blow
Speaker 1: up the mosque and then when someone actually grows up
Speaker 1: the mosque say, oh sorry, I didn't know they were
Speaker 1: actually going to do it, and that's different. And I
Speaker 1: have to say that's different, is Ourah, that's like that
Speaker 1: strikes me as almost a blasphemy law.
Speaker 2: In the midst of all of this, though that the
Speaker 2: context for the concern about the way the UK government
Speaker 2: is behaving is that they've got form on trying to
Speaker 2: squash free speech. I mean, it was reported just this
Speaker 2: week in the UK Telegraph that the Home Secretary of
Speaker 2: at Cooper she's now looking at laws regarding abortion clinics
Speaker 2: and they really are. They're seriously trying to outlaw silent
Speaker 2: prayer outside abortion. You literally can't talk to God in
Speaker 2: your own mind. The police want to have a say
Speaker 2: over that. So the UK government have got form when
Speaker 2: it comes to cracking down excessively on not just freedom
Speaker 2: of speech, freedom of thought.
Speaker 4: Yes, and that has only come due to I can't
Speaker 4: remember her name, but the woman who was arrested outside
Speaker 4: an abortion clinic praying silently in her mind and was
Speaker 4: arrested by the police. She did time for that. She's
Speaker 4: actually been awarded a payout because she took them to
Speaker 4: court for false imprisonment and a few other things.
Speaker 5: And it turned out she won.
Speaker 4: So now you've got the ministers in the UK going, well, actually,
Speaker 4: let's make sure we make this iron clad. Someone stand
Speaker 4: within the double debt instead of just going wow, yeah,
Speaker 4: that was full on someone's thoughts.
Speaker 2: Aprid of it.
Speaker 4: They can't be doing anything in their head in the
Speaker 4: vicinity of an abortion clinic. Now they're doubling down, going, oh,
Speaker 4: this woman won in court.
Speaker 5: The law wasn't actually behind us.
Speaker 4: Let's make sure the government is one hundred percent behind
Speaker 4: this now. But to Brits who are facing this situation,
Speaker 4: and I can only imagine how tyrannical it feels. Here's
Speaker 4: a little message from the US to the UK with love,
Speaker 4: straight out of their declaration of independence.
Speaker 8: When a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably
Speaker 8: the same object events as are designed to reduce them
Speaker 8: under absolute despotism, and is their right, it is their
Speaker 8: duty to throw off such government and provide new guards
Speaker 8: for their future security. People won't talk that way anymore.
Speaker 5: No, they don't.
Speaker 4: Maybe we should bring it back to Sydney Water now,
Speaker 4: who have very quietly released on their website a final
Speaker 4: I mean, I've been talking about this stuff for the
Speaker 4: longest time.
Speaker 5: I love talking about forever chemicals.
Speaker 4: I love talking about pfas I love talking about microplastics.
Speaker 4: They're all interchangeable. You will have heard of them before.
Speaker 4: Sydney Water have come out and said, ah, for the
Speaker 4: first time, we are acknowledging that cancer linked forever chemicals
Speaker 4: have been detected across Sydney's drinking water catchments. H the
Speaker 4: terror What have I been telling you? Now they're finally
Speaker 4: admitting it. Water pollution expert Ian Wright says, I expect
Speaker 4: that these results will be quite confronting to many people.
Speaker 4: This also contradicts statements made by the authorities that there
Speaker 4: is no pfast risk in.
Speaker 5: The catchment without any doubt.
Speaker 4: Further regular testing is needed and needs to be publicly
Speaker 4: reported now. The Australian guidelines are currently under review after
Speaker 4: America's EPA found there was no safe levels of.
Speaker 5: These of exposure to these chemicals, and yet where do
Speaker 5: we find them.
Speaker 4: They're in our drinking water, they are in a lot
Speaker 4: of your food, They're in a lot of your food packaging,
Speaker 4: they are in a lot of your medics. They're in
Speaker 4: your sun's screen, they are in every meal that you cook.
Speaker 4: In that amazing it doesn't stick to anything. Whether they're
Speaker 4: saucepans or fry pans, they're in your tooth fluss.
Speaker 5: I could go on and on and on.
Speaker 4: There's a reason why in America they spend two hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty billion dollars a year.
Speaker 5: Two hundred and fifty billion. To put that in.
Speaker 4: Perspective, that's more than the US spent on the entire
Speaker 4: COVID pandemic two hundred and fifty billion dollars a year.
Speaker 4: America says that they spend on the health side effects
Speaker 4: that people are progressively coming down with. Given that these
Speaker 4: pfast chemicals now basically have infiltrated every part of our lives,
Speaker 4: even those disposable coffee cups that people drink.
Speaker 5: We go through millions of them every single day worldwide.
Speaker 4: Microplastics, microplastics in those we're just downing them if it's
Speaker 4: not already in the water.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is something that.
Speaker 4: Nobody is sorry, paid enough attention to, the government has
Speaker 4: turned a blind eye to and keeps doing so because
Speaker 4: they know if they were to put their foot down
Speaker 4: on p fas, which is over fourteen hundred different chemicals
Speaker 4: by the way, if they were to put their foot down.
Speaker 4: It would mean putting the foot down on multi billion
Speaker 4: dollar companies and the way they produce their products, and
Speaker 4: governments simply aren't willing.
Speaker 5: To do it.
Speaker 2: And what's really highlighted the problem we've got is the
Speaker 2: fact that, as you said, the USA have said no
Speaker 2: level of exposure is safe and so they have adjusted
Speaker 2: their guidelines, whereas in Australia there's currently a review going
Speaker 2: into it. But could that take months? It could take years.
Speaker 2: Some people are suggesting if the water supply is not safe,
Speaker 2: then that should be a matter of absolute urgency for
Speaker 2: our government, no matter what they have to do or
Speaker 2: how much it costs. If the US are making that move,
Speaker 2: why are we dragging our feet? Well?
Speaker 1: I think everything in life is a matter of balancing risk,
Speaker 1: including COVID and the measures against it. Does the benefit
Speaker 1: actually outweigh the cost to doing something? And I would argue,
Speaker 1: just for the sake of you know, an alternate point
Speaker 1: of view, if it's in absolutely everything, including everything we consume,
Speaker 1: and the one thing we have to consume to stay alive,
Speaker 1: namely water, be fascy, maybe it is not as deadly
Speaker 1: as people are being led to believe. In other words, yes, undoubtedly.
Speaker 1: Now that we can trace all these things and find
Speaker 1: all these things, in some cases you might be able
Speaker 1: to link it to someone's disease, and you might be
Speaker 1: able to say, all, right, well, this is because it
Speaker 1: built up plastics. And maybe years from now we'll find
Speaker 1: out that this was this great killer that was calling
Speaker 1: all these things. You know that some people say, I.
Speaker 4: Think we've already found that out, Joe, two d and
Speaker 4: fifty billion per year that the government is saying, our
Speaker 4: hospitals are full of people who because this isn't just cancer,
Speaker 4: this is endometriosis, this is infertility in men and women.
Speaker 5: This is all cause to right by you name it.
Speaker 4: The litany of sicknesses are connected to I can't believe
Speaker 4: you it's important.
Speaker 5: If your life is your health.
Speaker 1: If it's so ubiquitous and it's so everywhere and we're
Speaker 1: all consuming it all the time, why are we all
Speaker 1: living longer than ever each past?
Speaker 5: Why are we sicker than ever?
Speaker 4: Because so you're just saying manufacturers should be able to
Speaker 4: use these chemicals, it is possible without using the chemicals, it's.
Speaker 1: Possible that we've got the risk level right. It's possible
Speaker 1: that the USA has got to be sell.
Speaker 4: But again, if it's in the USA has now thanks
Speaker 4: to incredible docos how to Poison a Planet on stand,
Speaker 4: do not miss it. That has blown the whistle on
Speaker 4: these multi billion companies and where it has been proved.
Speaker 5: Watch the doco.
Speaker 4: They knew, they knew, and they did it anyway. They
Speaker 4: put these chemicals in water catch maybe and in all
Speaker 4: of their products.
Speaker 5: They absolutely knew it.
Speaker 1: Just it just seems strange to me that, you know,
Speaker 1: if it really is in our it's strange to you
Speaker 1: just the simple fact of it. If it's in our
Speaker 1: water supply and we're all drinking it all the time,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't there be more clear, widespread and and community wide,
Speaker 1: like nationwide debilitating.
Speaker 5: There is in the US.
Speaker 1: Or is it all just happening and we don't know
Speaker 1: what we're blaming on absolutely.
Speaker 5: In the US.
Speaker 4: That's like saying, because nobody's really talking about this, it
Speaker 4: can't be all that important.
Speaker 1: I mean everyone's talking, everyone's talking about it, and people
Speaker 1: are saying, all right, well, we've seen all this stuff.
Speaker 1: We know that, you know, we've finally been able to
Speaker 1: find that this is in Sydney's drinking water, for example,
Speaker 1: where previously we didn't know it was there, And it's
Speaker 1: below below, It's below what were the previous risk levels
Speaker 1: which are now being reviewed.
Speaker 5: Except so you know, there's no exposure left. There's no
Speaker 5: safe exposure level.
Speaker 2: But I'm a little bit with you in the sense
Speaker 2: it who knows. I'm no expert. What concerns me is
Speaker 2: the government seem and authorities seem rather tardy in following
Speaker 2: these things up. Is there if there is a suggestion
Speaker 2: that these things are as dangerous as you and others
Speaker 2: are saying more, well, then they should be following it up.
Speaker 2: On your side, I'm saying they should get on their
Speaker 2: start investigating. Here's a classic, bad, classic example of government tardiness.
Speaker 2: There was an article today saying that the EPA new
Speaker 2: recycled soil products contained contaminants, that they were being sprinkled
Speaker 2: around housing developments, in parks where children play. They were
Speaker 2: a risk to the environment and to the community. They'd
Speaker 2: known about this for a decade, they warned the New
Speaker 2: South Wales Coalition in twenty twenty one, and nobody, not
Speaker 2: the EPA, in all the New South Wales Coalition who
Speaker 2: were in government at the time, did anything about it.
Speaker 2: The EPA, after talking to industry, who obviously didn't want
Speaker 2: any changes to their recycling methods, didn't want to spend
Speaker 2: more money trying to get rid of these contaminants. They said, please,
Speaker 2: don't change any regulation. So the APAA said, okay, we'll
Speaker 2: provide education for you and increased monitory So when you
Speaker 2: read about that sort of response from government to known
Speaker 2: contaminants being spread around children's playgrounds and housing developments, it
Speaker 2: does make you concerned about how seriously government and that.
Speaker 4: Is another reason why they don't want to lift a finger,
Speaker 4: because to get rid of p fast, whether it's soil contamination,
Speaker 4: water contamination, is a really difficult one and we had
Speaker 4: a terrible case of it. We bought from three M
Speaker 4: the company and how to Poison a Planet. The firefighting
Speaker 4: Fome put out fires that got into our waterways up
Speaker 4: in Queensland and the results from that were absolutely devastating
Speaker 4: because of course it was in very extreme levels in
Speaker 4: certain parts of Queensland due to that. So to argue
Speaker 4: that this should be a priority when you're talking about
Speaker 4: the health of a nation, if you're talking about their
Speaker 4: drinking water, something that basic, I would just say to
Speaker 4: anyone who cares, get a really good filtering system because
Speaker 4: breeder ain't going to cut it, not when it comes
Speaker 4: to pfas. And people need to be aware of these
Speaker 4: things because though at least that they can make the choices.
Speaker 5: Of not using those plots in pairs. I'm not going
Speaker 5: to drink water in tapwater. There is a lot of
Speaker 5: people who do not drink tap water.
Speaker 2: Just quickly, speak of the health of the nation. Got
Speaker 2: to show you this headline from the New York Post
Speaker 2: reporting on the Democratic Convention currently underway. Planned Parenthood have
Speaker 2: set up outside the convention. They're offering free vasectoms and
Speaker 2: abortions in a truck outside the DNC. Liz, what does
Speaker 2: that say about the ruling party in the United States
Speaker 2: and the culture free visectomies and abortions out on the street.
Speaker 2: You can get a taco in one truck and an
Speaker 2: abortion in the other.
Speaker 5: This is absolutely disgusting to me. I find this. I
Speaker 5: find this demonic. I find this satanic.
Speaker 4: The Dens love to talk about population control, and here
Speaker 4: they are practicing it in the car park at the
Speaker 4: Democratic National Convention. I'm like, this is just I find
Speaker 4: out ar rageous, revolting. Although when it comes to the vasectomes.
Speaker 4: If you're a dem maybe you're doing everyone a favor
Speaker 4: by withdrawing from gample.
Speaker 1: Maybe just withdrawing the best method.
Speaker 2: We've got to go to a break before we do.
Speaker 2: Last night we reported a story about increased fines for
Speaker 2: dogs or fleash in Queensland. We said it was a
Speaker 2: decision by Redland City Council. We're happy to point out
Speaker 2: tonight it was in fact the Queensland Government that increased
Speaker 2: the fines, with legislation passing in state parliament in April.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a break. When we come back,
Speaker 2: we'll look at what's making news tomorrow in the papers.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. We'll look at what's making news
Speaker 2: in tomorrow's papers. And Liz the Canberra Times. What's the
Speaker 2: threat facing Australia at the moment?
Speaker 4: Message you may remember last night we're having a good
Speaker 4: laugh at the UK, who had decided that misogyny is
Speaker 4: now one of their extremest categories and they're going after
Speaker 4: it helter skelter, particularly in school aged young men.
Speaker 5: Well, it seems.
Speaker 4: Australia's following suit the threat of misogyny. The splash reads
Speaker 4: on the front of the Canberra Times Australia's national security
Speaker 4: agencies plan to target the spread of misogyny in school
Speaker 4: aged young men and the threat it posters to social
Speaker 4: cohesion following crisis talks over gender based violence. Now, as
Speaker 4: per the question we raised last night, what are they
Speaker 4: classifying as misogyny?
Speaker 5: Well, if I go to the next paragraph, you may
Speaker 5: have cause for concern, because I shall know I do.
Speaker 4: The Office of National Intelligence believes that while groups promoting
Speaker 4: male supremacy, misogyny and traditional masculine social norm remain at
Speaker 4: the fringes and are rejected by many, including most men,
Speaker 4: there are signs that their prevalence is increasing. So there
Speaker 4: we have it in writing, traditional masculine social norms equal misogyny?
Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: I want more of those traditional masculine social norms, please
Speaker 4: you Ask any woman on the street. It'll be the
Speaker 4: reason why they're single. They are looking for men who
Speaker 4: are men and subscribe.
Speaker 5: To traditional masculine social norms.
Speaker 4: But they can't find them anymore because the state it
Speaker 4: seems to be working west wide to beat it out
Speaker 4: of guys when they're as young as school age.
Speaker 2: The part of this article that just fascinated me was
Speaker 2: they quote an expert who says hardest violence is often
Speaker 2: underpinned by misogynistic ideas. Now, g hardest violence is underpinned
Speaker 2: by a religious ideology. It's got nothing to do with misogyny.
Speaker 2: So that misogyny even responsible for Islamic terrorism. It's just madness.
Speaker 1: So like now we're saying Islamism is like not misogynist,
Speaker 1: like it is, like extreme mus terrorism is pretty misogogistic,
Speaker 1: like kind of goes it is.
Speaker 2: But the terrorism is not based on misogyny. It's based
Speaker 2: on a religious ideology. But we don't want to talk
Speaker 2: about religion. It's just easy to say, oh, if only
Speaker 2: we change people's attitudes towards the genders, then everything would
Speaker 2: be fine.
Speaker 1: I love talking about religion. The Reformation was a mistake, change.
Speaker 2: My mind, joking about it. Carry on, Joe, Joe.
Speaker 1: The Herald Sun. Now well, I'll tell you one thing
Speaker 1: that's not funny. James and Liz racism. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of racism at Melbourne Airport. I always knew the
Speaker 1: People's Republic of Victoria a cesspit of racism. And we
Speaker 1: can only assume misogyny. A comic in a racial row
Speaker 1: at the Tomarine Airport American comedian Eric Andre has sensationally worn,
Speaker 1: so it was a very sensational warning quote all black, brown,
Speaker 1: and indigenous people, medigious people not like count as anyway
Speaker 1: against traveling through Melbourne Airport amid claims he was racially profiled,
Speaker 1: taken out of a line and sniffed by a dog.
Speaker 1: Shame on the people at the Melbourne Airport that have
Speaker 1: that this kokamami procedure. Great American is in there. The
Speaker 1: Emmy nominated, always been nominated for an Emmy Star, said,
Speaker 1: likening the security protocol to former New York City Mayor
Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani's controversial stop and frisk esque nonsense program quote unquote,
Speaker 1: which allowed police to stop people for what they deemed
Speaker 1: quote suspicious behavior. Melbourne Airport has said it will be investigated.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was a young, long haired hippie
Speaker 1: type walking around the streets of inner city Melbourne. I
Speaker 1: guaranteed you if a cop car passed me, I would
Speaker 1: just go five four three two and they would stop
Speaker 1: risk me every single time. And it was a real
Speaker 1: pain because I had to get rid of the dope
Speaker 1: I was carrying and hide it behind the like don't know,
Speaker 1: doesn't don't. Don't the airports actually have like strict kind
Speaker 1: of like I know about the sniffer dog one, but
Speaker 1: with the bomb testing, it's like you know, one to you.
Speaker 2: The airport recently and I got pulled aside for the
Speaker 2: bombs all the time, and I joked, are you profiling me?
Speaker 2: And very seriously the security person said, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we don't profile. It's randomized to see that thing there.
Speaker 2: And I said, so, such completely random who you pulled aside?
Speaker 2: That's correct, sir. I said, so what you're telling me
Speaker 2: is if you catch a terrorist, it will be completely
Speaker 2: by accident. And she's real quiet and then said I
Speaker 2: suppose so. I said, I can't tell you how safe
Speaker 2: that makes me feel.
Speaker 4: It's so ridiculous that police or security guards are now
Speaker 4: being pulled up even if they did go, yeah, something
Speaker 4: a bit sus we want to have a dog sniff you.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Comedian the chance of it having
Speaker 1: drugs on him as astronomical.
Speaker 5: There you go, no wonder the.
Speaker 4: Dog was sniff authors like, man, I've get paid boring.
Speaker 1: And clean living. Now this is the problem. Like if
Speaker 1: they wanted to go out, you know, like you get
Speaker 1: a sniffer dog out on a hipster. Now I say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've joined the sobriety movement, isn't it great?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to the front page of the Mercury
Speaker 2: in Tasmania. Cop cyber sting in the tail reads the headline.
Speaker 2: This is a good story. Police got the bad guys.
Speaker 2: Craig Douglas Stewart thought he was grooming a fourteen year
Speaker 2: old girl and her mother charming when he started chatting
Speaker 2: to the pair in an online chat room and shared
Speaker 2: sexually explicit messages and pictures with them. Little did the
Speaker 2: fifty four year old male know the mother and daughter
Speaker 2: duo were actually police officers acting under cover. He was arrested, prosecuted,
Speaker 2: and sentenced to seven years in prison. Done to the
Speaker 2: online police.
Speaker 4: One less pedo out in the community when.
Speaker 1: You know what they should do, said yeah, I will
Speaker 1: send you a photos and take pictures of the actual
Speaker 1: police officers and then force him to just look at
Speaker 1: them the whole time is in jail, just so he's
Speaker 1: got that running through by This is what I was
Speaker 1: actually getting off on. That's right. This six foot six foot,
Speaker 1: hairy chested police officer called Bruno, who's now sitting there
Speaker 1: looking at me from across my style, that you got
Speaker 1: to play with the go to get in their.
Speaker 5: Minds and a job though, that is a job I
Speaker 5: put my hand.
Speaker 1: Up for just I'd find it say I'm fourteen.
Speaker 5: No, that would give me so much satisfaction.
Speaker 4: To the front page of The Australia Now CFM e
Speaker 4: U Court's war on Labor. The CFM EU is examining
Speaker 4: a potential High Court challenge to federal laws forcing the
Speaker 4: union's construction arm into administration, as angry left wing union
Speaker 4: leaders in Victoria condemned the unprecedented attack on unions and
Speaker 4: declared they would be willing to fund a rearguard legal action.
Speaker 5: Joe, these are your people.
Speaker 1: No they're not.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, What does he have to say
Speaker 5: about the.
Speaker 1: People? And Peter Marshall is one of the people who's
Speaker 1: mentioned the United Firefighters your new boss who is a
Speaker 1: good mate with Dan Andrews. When chairman Dan the company
Speaker 1: you can and yeah, these are the people who I
Speaker 1: think are provided. I used to have a lot of
Speaker 1: time for parts of the New South Wales CFMAU, who
Speaker 1: are much more reasonable and nowhere near is dodgy. But
Speaker 1: these guys, they're really militant. Ones in Victoria are just
Speaker 1: just shocking, shocking people. They're destroying the Labor Party, They're
Speaker 1: destroying the labor movement. Anyone who really cares about unions,
Speaker 1: who cares about the Labor Party, who cares about working people,
Speaker 1: would not want to have a bar of these people
Speaker 1: because because they're dragging the whole joint down. It's terrible.
Speaker 2: All right, we're going to go to a break, but
Speaker 2: stick around when we come back. You've heard that expression, hey,
Speaker 2: that's not the two person job or some librarians in
Speaker 2: South Australia have made a video illustrating that. It's gone
Speaker 2: viral all around the world. It's pretty funny. We'll show
Speaker 2: you that in the indust a moment. Well, if you've
Speaker 2: ever ever been responsible for managing people, there's nothing more
Speaker 2: frustrating and watch two staff members do a task that
Speaker 2: only requires one person. That's inefficient, it's a waste of resources.
Speaker 2: And so typically you tell those people that's not a
Speaker 2: two man job. With some librarians in South Australia, they
Speaker 2: have a different opinion. The funny thing about that, Joe,
Speaker 2: I know it's meant to be a piss take but
Speaker 2: that is the reality at my local library.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I didn't understand. When does the
Speaker 1: satire star? I thought that was just the set.
Speaker 5: Where's the joke?
Speaker 1: How good is that? That's very unny? Yes, it is
Speaker 1: a very good redactment of a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of workplaces, a lot of public service workplace to.
Speaker 5: A heartwarming story.
Speaker 4: Now in southwest Queensland, where Frank DeShawn has won himself
Speaker 4: the moniker of the People's King after his tiny town
Speaker 4: of Hebel was going to have to close down its
Speaker 4: entire commercial portfolio. Its entire commercial portfolio consisting of a
Speaker 4: pub and a small convenience store. Hebel has a population
Speaker 4: of just twenty people. So what did Frank Deshan do here?
Speaker 5: He is explaining.
Speaker 7: Here at Hable, which is roughly on the border of
Speaker 7: New South Wales and Queenslands in the kind of middle
Speaker 7: of nowhere, the Hable Hotel. Look at the place. It
Speaker 7: is everything And look I'm here with the proprietor, Frank Deshan.
Speaker 7: Frank certainly had the pub for a couple of year.
Speaker 7: But Frank, tell me why did you buy the pub?
Speaker 1: Mate?
Speaker 2: Look?
Speaker 1: It basically shut down. It was a reflection of it.
Speaker 9: We had the very big drought that you know, it
Speaker 9: covers the whole of Australia, the fires and all the
Speaker 9: rest of it. That break twenty nineteen we rolled into
Speaker 9: COVID and the poor guys that were here before me,
Speaker 9: they just fell on hard times. They just couldn't handle
Speaker 9: it and it shut down.
Speaker 7: Now I've actually clocked off, Frank, so I can actually
Speaker 7: have it and have a view at last.
Speaker 1: But but you'd had you've had a vier here.
Speaker 2: This would be a lafful, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: Hell?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I'd my first be here, Warren, and hopefully
Speaker 9: maybe i'll add my last year.
Speaker 1: Tell you remember.
Speaker 5: Soldierly a legend.
Speaker 4: Frank, So this town after seven years of drought, the
Speaker 4: compulsory water buybacks and a global pandemic.
Speaker 5: He's like, no, we're not going down.
Speaker 4: The pub had been closed for twelve months and he's like,
Speaker 4: I'm bringing herb back.
Speaker 5: Women.
Speaker 1: Amazing story that incidentally interviewing frame was the Valley Telegraphs
Speaker 1: cartoonist Warren Brown. And we send him on the road
Speaker 1: all the time. I've done some great road trips with him.
Speaker 1: So Warren, you know, go get us a great community story.
Speaker 1: You know, get to whereas all having every single time,
Speaker 1: he ends up at a pub every single time, and
Speaker 1: this time it appears he's actually had to get someone
Speaker 1: to buy the pub and reopen it just so we
Speaker 1: can get one.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something funny about that town.
Speaker 2: The local kids at the church Sunday School, when they're
Speaker 2: repeating the Lord's Prayer, they pray, deliver lead us not
Speaker 2: into temptation, and deliver us from.
Speaker 1: Hebel Actually, I think you'll find that's offensive, James, and
Speaker 1: the town has now changed its name to Babel.
Speaker 2: That's it from us, but stick around. Coming up in
Speaker 2: just a moment is the readA Penney sho