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Speaker 1: Seeing Whip with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: We've just been stopped in our tracks a headline and

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Speaker 2: news has broken that Liam Pain has been found dead.

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Speaker 2: He has died in Bonis Ares Fits. You've got some

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Speaker 2: detail there on this breaking news as we scrounged around

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Speaker 2: as quickly as possible for the former One Direction details.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's hepped it here. Died after a fall from

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Speaker 3: his hotel balcony. The former One Direction singer died Wednesday evening.

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Speaker 3: Several witnesses at the hotel we were staying in Buenos

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Speaker 3: Aires tell us that Liam fell from his room on

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Speaker 3: the third floor. We do not know if it was

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Speaker 3: incidental or accidental intentional. Sorry, our accidental TMZ has obtained

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Speaker 3: a photo and you can see that it is Liam

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Speaker 3: Pain because of his tattoos. Now they are saying witnesses

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Speaker 3: say that this happened shortly after five pm over there,

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Speaker 3: and that Liam had been acting erratic in the hotel lobby.

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Speaker 3: He smashed his laptop and had had to be carried

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Speaker 3: back to his room. But yeah, they've put they've put

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Speaker 3: a tent over his body now and yeah, Liam Payne.

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Speaker 1: Thirty one years of age from One Direction, has passed away.

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Speaker 1: Do we know what he was doing in.

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Speaker 3: By the series.

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Speaker 4: I think he was there. I think Niall Horan was

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Speaker 4: performing their last week, so I think he did attend

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Speaker 4: the performances or the concert or something like that.

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Speaker 2: It's so hard not to jump to conclusions or say anything.

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Speaker 2: I get nervous in these situations for saying something that

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Speaker 2: isn't accurate or factual or correct or respectful when these

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Speaker 2: situations happened. I mean, I think he's spoken about challenges

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Speaker 2: with mental illness in the past. I think Jesse, you

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Speaker 2: were saying that his girlfriend has a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, his ex fiance has been on a couple of

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Speaker 5: podcasts recently, just saying he's struggled quite a bit. I

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Speaker 5: think he's done a few stints in rehab and I

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Speaker 5: think was really working on trying to get himself out of,

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Speaker 5: you know, the position he had been in the past

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Speaker 5: couple of months.

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Speaker 1: He has a kid or two kids, father of a father.

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Speaker 4: Of a young child. Bear with Cheryl Cole, who was

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Speaker 4: also a performer in the UK Big Star herself.

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Speaker 3: When you are exposed and Kate probably you've been in

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Speaker 3: this situation too, But when you're exposed to fame from

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Speaker 3: such an early age. It must take a toll on you,

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Speaker 3: thirty one years of age. That's the one.

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Speaker 1: Thing that we need to focus on here.

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Speaker 3: He was he was a dad and still so young,

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Speaker 3: but that that's massive use.

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Speaker 2: Reports on the TV are saying that he did fall

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Speaker 2: from the third floor of a hotel.

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Speaker 4: Do we know what time it is there now?

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Speaker 3: Well, it happened at five p so I would say

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Speaker 3: it's quite late there now, before seven o'clock.

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Speaker 4: So it's only it's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, getting any further detail at your end, look.

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Speaker 6: Only that it is unverified at this point in time,

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Speaker 6: so obviously understand the hesitancy to say whether there's any

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Speaker 6: confirmation around this or not. It is really, like you've said,

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Speaker 6: it's only recently happened, so a lot of the detail

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Speaker 6: is still unfolding. There were reports of him being a

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Speaker 6: little unsettled in the lobby before being taken up to

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Speaker 6: the room. But obviously extremely tragic if this is all

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Speaker 6: as is being reported.

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Speaker 2: Whatever the case, the fact is he's now passed, which

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Speaker 2: is just really jarring and really sad to hear. It's

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Speaker 2: really confronting.

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Speaker 1: The apologies for giving you that news.

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Speaker 2: But we will keep you up to speed with further details.

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Speaker 2: Everyone will be looking for for answers in some form

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Speaker 2: of understanding or we will let you know when we

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Speaker 2: have more. Liam Payne has been found out at the

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Speaker 2: age of thirty one after falling from a hotel balcony

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Speaker 2: and banas Ares in Argentina. Processing that at the moment,

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Speaker 2: but also desperately trying to bring you as much information

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Speaker 2: as possible that we know. But this was around two

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Speaker 2: hours ago that he found It's been confirmed via the

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Speaker 2: tattoos too. Of the image that has appeared on TMZ,

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Speaker 2: you can see that they're clearly the tattoos that Liam

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Speaker 2: has on his arm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Liam was holidaying with his girlfriend I think had

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Speaker 4: attended a Nile Horn concert last week, was supporting his

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Speaker 4: ex band mate YEP, who they'd grown up together. And

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Speaker 4: I think that that is what is incredibly confronting and

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Speaker 4: maybe when you're looking at the images of him this morning,

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Speaker 4: is that he's only thirty one now and we have

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Speaker 4: known him and he has been in the public eye

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Speaker 4: since he was just a young lad setting out on

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Speaker 4: what was going to be the adventure of a lifetime.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, God, how old were they when we first

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Speaker 3: interviewed One Direction that would have made.

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Speaker 2: I remember we came back from the Christmas holidays or

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Speaker 2: a fits and I remember you going, hey, we got

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Speaker 2: to get around this band called One Direction. You said,

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Speaker 2: everybody is obsessed and I think they're going to do

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Speaker 2: some big stuff. Well, I remember that. I remember that.

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Speaker 3: We had we had kids camping out at our building

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Speaker 3: like a day before they even arrived, because they knew

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Speaker 3: that we were going to be interviewing them. And then

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Speaker 3: do you remember the security around them when they when

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Speaker 3: they but so you know what, that was all new

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Speaker 3: to them then, and they were having such a good

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Speaker 3: time together.

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Speaker 1: They were really close. It was it was an interesting time.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: They had had a police escort through the city when

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Speaker 2: they were here, and you're right, they were all here

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Speaker 2: in the studio and they were just young guys who

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Speaker 2: had found themselves some success together from a TV show.

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Speaker 1: Well, we spoke to mel Doyle about it.

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Speaker 3: I remember remember the Sunrise gig that they did and

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Speaker 3: they shut down the whole of Sydney down there.

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Speaker 2: It was on George, You're right, as we were just

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Speaker 2: saying off air, Kate, you wonder where I mean, the

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Speaker 2: pressure of these events in this lifestyle. I suppose when

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Speaker 2: one thing leads to another, there's a point where, you know,

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Speaker 2: what's a great adventure as you described, can turn to

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Speaker 2: something that's now out of your control. It's big enough

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Speaker 2: that it's could be all too consuming. But at the

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Speaker 2: same time, you no longer have control. You don't have

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Speaker 2: control of the media, you don't have control of how

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Speaker 2: things are handled.

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Speaker 4: How people perceive you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people perceive you your private life.

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Speaker 4: And probably you There is a point with I'm just

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Speaker 4: guessing here that there's such a big part of their

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Speaker 4: lives that didn't actually belong to them. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 4: was so exposed and they're you know, I'm making this

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Speaker 4: up as I go. But you know, it's hard to

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Speaker 4: have boundaries when the world loves you and feel as

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Speaker 4: though they own you and you owe them something. So

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Speaker 4: I really think that that kind of thing is hard

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Speaker 4: for anybody to navigate, even as a well rounded adult,

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Speaker 4: let alone you know, a group of young men in

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Speaker 4: the formative years of their life, you know, And and

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Speaker 4: it's great when you're winning, and it's great when everybody

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Speaker 4: loves you, but let's be very honest, people are very

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Speaker 4: quick to turn on you. And I really feel for

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Speaker 4: Liam and his family because it hasn't always been like

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Speaker 4: that for him, and I think that there's probably a

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Speaker 4: lot for all of us to think about over do

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Speaker 4: you know today?

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Speaker 2: I remember two comments, one from Robbie Williams where he

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Speaker 2: did an interview and they said, how do you keep

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Speaker 2: in touch with the real world? And he said, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I can't because I'm not living in the real world.

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: You can escape, but when you're universally recognized like those

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Speaker 3: guys are, you can't get away from it anywhere.

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Speaker 4: No, they can't.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: And then Brad Pitt, he was asked once what does

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Speaker 2: it feel like to be a celebrity of that status?

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Speaker 2: He said, the only thing I could draw a parallel

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Speaker 2: to would be for a girl or a woman walking

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Speaker 2: past the building site every day, every minute of your

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Speaker 2: day and having build.

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Speaker 1: His whistle at you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what I think it feels like. Just

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Speaker 2: people coming at you the whole time, and everybody wants something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and not being able to go through anything in private,

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Speaker 4: even even now, within hours of something like this happened,

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Speaker 4: we all know about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then you and you go, well, he's he's

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Speaker 2: the son, and there's a mum and a dad out

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Speaker 2: there and a child and a child, and he's a

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Speaker 2: father overnight obviously, Well there'll be more breaking news, Lamb,

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Speaker 2: and we'll bring it that deep tomorrow. But enjoy your

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Speaker 2: Thursday or whatever you're doing. Look after yourself. Sits in

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