WEBVTT - The Media Show | 21 March 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:06.600 Welcome to Stars and Gripes, where we highlight those in 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.960 the US media who have shread all pretense of ethical 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.840 reporting to become activists. And first to the Associated Press 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:19.560 and MSNBC, two newsrooms which have knowingly published misinformation about 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.760 the Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard to make it 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:24.799 look like she is POWs with Putin. 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.800 Just today, Tulsey Gabbert said that Putin and Trump are 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.280 quote very good friends. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.080 The Associated Press made the same reckless and false claims, 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.000 leading to the story eventually being deleted. The New York 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:44.159 Post had the details. The Associated Press has retracted a 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:48.000 story published Monday which wrongly claimed that the Director of 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.479 National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard said that President Donald Trump and 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.840 Russian President Vladimir Putin were good friends. The story was 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.520 false because Gabbard was talking about Trump and Indian Prime 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:04.640 Minister Norenda Mody, not Putin. MSNBC then had to air 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.080 this humiliating correction. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.760 Last night, we reported on excerpts of an interview between 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.280 the Director of National Intelligence Telsa Gabbard and an Indian 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.800 TV news network in which she said that Trump was 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.520 good friends with a world leader. We said that world 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:24.160 leader was Vladimir Putin that the full interview shows that 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:28.119 Gabbard was referring to Trump an Indian prime minister mody. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:30.160 We'll clear that up. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:31.760 Well. 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.440 As one critic of this saga noted online, the media 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.000 is always loud when making the original allegation, an oddly 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.120 quiet when correcting the record. Let's bring in Sky New's 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:45.679 contributor Kosha Garda to discuss this was a shoka and 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:50.720 it was a shaka that you have to assume that 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.840 it was knowingly done because it was so obvious listening 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.920 to it and reading the transcript that that's not what 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:57.960 she was saying at all. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:01:59.440 So the only conclusion you. 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:03.800 Can draw is mass incompetence or they've just knowingly verbaled 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.840 her in the worst possible way. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.679 Yes, I think that those are the two correct endpoints 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.680 of the spectrum there for sure. That either it's mass 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.160 incompetence and just sort of a laziness. Maybe that the 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:21.160 people fronting these brands rely wholly on staff to put 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.519 together the talking points that they read off the teleprompter 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.400 and don't do their own work or don't apply their 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.360 own common sense check all the way to the other end, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.639 that it's something a little bit more nefarious and deliberate, 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.640 you know. I think the big picture is not pretty 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.600 because it just underscores that much of the mainstream media 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.120 is still caught up in the Russia Mania, which was 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.880 a big theme in Trump's first term, and that's why 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.400 they were so quick to leap to that conclusion. I 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.480 will say that I'll give them a little bit more 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.520 credit than years past, noting that's a low bar in 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:52.560 terms of the prominence of the correction because in the past, 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.520 you know, whether it was a hunter Byden laptop story 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:58.160 or Russia Mania, or giving themselves Pulitzer Prizes for their 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:59.960 reporting on the Russia hoax and all the rest of it, 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.120 there were no retractions or corrections actually from many things 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.960 that are still up there versus now. Stephanie Rule of 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.600 MSNBC did actually use airtime on her next day's show 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.520 to correct that, and the AP took down the story 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.520 with the correction on the bottom, so it's not living 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.240 on in the internet. I find that a little bit 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:20.000 interesting that it's a small improvement, but maybe Trump and 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:23.079 Maga world are finally cracking through a little bit and 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.840 slightly shifting the way they operate in the mainstream media. 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.040 Yeah, I totally agree with you. I think that there's 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:32.240 been a slight switch. I think it's being more prominent 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:36.160 on CNN than MSNBC. America is in the grips of 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.400 domestic terror attacks on Tesla vehicles, but some in the 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.720 media have disgustingly been cheering on this violence as some 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.240 sort of legitimate form of resistance. But before we get 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.400 to that, it's important to see the scale of the damage. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:50.800 That we were talking about. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.720 Some breaking news that we are following for you this hour, 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.880 and this has to do with these Tesla attacks that 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.040 we have been seeing in recent weeks. We now are 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:05.320 learning that Attorney General Pambondi has announced charges against three 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:10.960 people in domestic terrorism attacks on Tesla's Three people accused 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:15.080 of destroying Tesla cars and charging stations are now facing 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:19.440 up to twenty years in prison for domestic terrorism. US 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:23.720 Attorney in General Pambondi announced just moments ago. She said 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.000 in a statement as well, the days of committing crimes 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.600 without consequence have ended. Let this be a warning if 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.800 you join this wave of domestic terrorism against Tesla properties, 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:39.280 the Department of Justice will put you behind bars. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.080 If you blow up the cause of innocent, random people. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.799 Because of ideology, you are a terrorist. It's not simple. 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.240 Even now, ABC here in Australia has conceded the attacks 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.360 have the whole marks of terrorism. But listen to the 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.919 language from mainstream yet hardcore activist journalists who are encouraging 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.320 Americans to resist the Trump present and see and protest 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:05.320 a private company not even linked to the government. They 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.200 call the protests remarkable and organic. 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.760 There's something really remarkable happening right now. I'm not sure 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.359 people have really quite gotten their arms around this. We 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:19.200 are seeing this organic, bottom up movement against Muss signature 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.800 company Tesla. Some activists just put up a website with 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.480 a simple message, right sell your Tesla's dump your stock, 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:30.160 and then an entire Tesla takedown movement has sprung up 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.160 in response. They've got a map where all the protests 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.280 are planned all across the country. It's been happening for 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.760 about a month. This weekend alone, there are more than 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:43.520 one hundred protests planned at dealerships Tesla dealerships across the country, 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.680 from Brooklyn to Toledo, Dallas to Grand Rapids, Raleigh, dozens 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.120 more there. Even as you might see, they're a handful 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.640 planned in Candon in the UK, and I'm going to 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.760 tell you something. I wager next weekend there will be 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.560 even more in the weekend after that more. 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.880 Yes, I imagine there will be even more protests next 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:05.000 week because MSNBC has just broadcast a rolling list of 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.920 where every single one is being held and directed people 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.400 to the organizer's website. Now do you remember the outrage 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:16.240 from journalists over people supposedly encouraging January sixth violence. These 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.000 people are so blind to their biases that they do 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.479 not understand the similarities here. Now, Kosher, let's bring you 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.160 in because I'd love to get your views on this. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.760 I think there's a fine line between covering the story 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:31.039 and then romanticizing with some of these protesters in a 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.039 way which could give credence to the view that you 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.720 want people to go there. You see this presenter talking 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:42.000 with this sign that says resistance behind him. It's a 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:46.280 very positive connotation towards the protests. He clearly thinks these 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.799 protests are a great idea, but in reality, Tesla owners 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.120 are being targeted, Tesla's are being blown up, people are 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.719 being charged with terrorism. It seems like an odd tone 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.679 for a professional news organization to take when discussing the story. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.240 Definitely, and that is a fine line, but it's a 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.440 very very serious line, because this is a very serious matter. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:06.760 You know. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.720 Chris Hasler said that he finds it remarkable and organic. 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:11.520 I would agree with him on the first part. It 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.480 is remarkable, but not for the reasons he thinks it 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.120 does not appear organic. I think I have no evidence 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:18.560 of this, but I think it would be a safe 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.480 assumption that there are these types of agitator groups and 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.120 sources of funding out there. We know this that seem 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.640 to be able to flip a switch basically an unleash 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.960 very much organized protest. It appears grassroots, but you peel 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.600 back the surface and it isn't. That would be my 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.560 educated guess, fat to wager one. And in terms of 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.360 that fine line, you know, they need to be careful 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.800 because the media, for good reason, has very strong protection, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.400 strongest in the world in America because of the First Amendment, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.920 and the bar is very high for any sort of 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:51.960 legal exposure that any media personality would potentially face. However, here, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.040 if it does get proven that this is domestic terrorism, 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.240 and Trump has said that, and Pambondi is ag has 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.920 also indicated that, as you mentioned, there is a statute. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.920 It's a little bit more difficult for good reason for 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.680 the president to designate domestic terrorist groups versus foreign terrorist groups, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.720 or he has a lot more leeway, But there are 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.800 statutes in place. I think it's twenty three thirty one 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.040 in the United States Code number eighteen that actually has 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.480 a definition for terrorism, and they're working their way through 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.400 that in the courts. If that happens, then this becomes 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.679 very serious and it gives more power to the DOJ 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.360 in terms of the types of remedies and prosecutoral action 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.600 they can bring against these folks. And then for Chris 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.240 Hayes and MSNBC and others to be skirting that line, 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:32.360 if you could prove that they're kind of aiding and 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.160 embedding something that is actually a designated domestic terror group, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.080 that gets a little bit more dicey for them. So 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.719 they might want to take that into consideration when they. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:41.360 Do this reporting. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.520 Yeah, it's a really good point. And whether or not 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.800 they are able to successfully prosecute under the definition of 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:51.200 terrorism or domestic terrorism, it doesn't change the fact that 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.840 if you had a news organization actively showing people where 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:59.160 to protest, say a Joe Biden presidency on January sixth, 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.760 They would be outrage if the protest ended up being violent, 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.840 or if they were violent acts that stemmed from that. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.880 And I think that what this is exposing. I think 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:12.000 a lot of conservatives already noticed that because there's a 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.839 lot of looting, and then there was already a lot 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.560 of fires that weren't I didn't have the same scope 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.520 on it. But what do you make of the fact 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.760 that there is this hypocrisy. They don't seem to be 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.960 aware of the fact that they're ignoring that distinction. 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:28.880 It's so true. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.160 I mean, they really are in this bubble or echo 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.839 chamber where whether it was the j six protests and 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.080 riots or whether it was Black Lives Matter, just the 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.920 way they've framed the issue and covered it versus the 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.240 way they're covering this. It's so obvious to anyone who's 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.280 not in that bubble. And you know, they are in 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.839 a crisis of credibility, as are in many institutions right 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.040 now in America and all across the world. And I 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.840 think the only way to remedy that, really it doesn't 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.400 feel like it can happen from the existing talent that's 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.880 up and down in the organization now. The only way 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:59.640 would be to inject new talent, new conservative leaning voices 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.080 into mainstream journalism. You're seeing them do a little bit 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.000 in that direction, you know, with the firing of Joy 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:08.440 Read and Jeff Bezos taking control of editorial a little 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.480 bit more on the Washington Post and so on. But 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.680 the next thing has to be to get other people 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.600 who don't live in that echo chamber on the air, 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.000 in their newspaper columns to present that point of view 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.880 that you just did, Jack, And that's the only way 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.520 to encounter that bias. That is clearly such a blind 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.480 spot for them because they just only live and breathe 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.680 and talk to I think people in very similar thinking, 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.079 and they're missing out on how most of the rest 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:31.600 of the country sees these issues. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.160 Yeah, well, we'll keep a close eye on it. New 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.760 polls are in and it isn't looking good for the Democrats. 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.600 In fact, it is so bad that my favorite left 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.520 wing talk show host John Stewart took a spray at 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:43.960 his own side of politics. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:49.360 Dems keep fecklessly complaining until the forty eight approval comes 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:53.199 down to forty which is a plan, but it's forgetting 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:57.120 one crucial piece of information in Schumer's popularity. 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:02.280 Calculation, devastating cascading numbers for Democrats. Only twenty seven percent 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.400 of voters have a positive view of the party, the 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:09.280 lowest favorability rating in their history of NBC's polling. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.880 You're a twenty seven person. You've got to get Trump 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.760 to lose eight points of popularity just for you to 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.840 get to the point where you're thirteen points below him. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.480 Your approval is only seven points above where it turns 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.440 red and goes into low power mode. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.080 Kosher, He's so funny. I really wish he was one 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.240 of us. But I think that what John Stewart's really 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.040 good at here is when he notices that there is 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.400 this massive issue what we were just talking about, with 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:48.520 this hypocrisy and everything, the Democrats have positioned themselves. They've 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:52.120 been wedged to being on the side of terrorists and 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.120 people who are looting and burning down. It's a really 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.320 untenable position from the being and it's going to be 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:01.320 really hard for them to capture mainstream America back if 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.000 their position is well, it is a legitimate form of 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.680 resistance to blow up a test life if that is 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.920 their position they will lose every single time. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.800 Yes, that one. There are other eighty twenty issues where 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.720 they are just really throwing down on the twenty percent. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.400 The boys and men playing in sports for girls and 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.880 women is another one. It's an eighty twenty issue, including 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.360 Democrat voters do not want that, but they keep throwing down. 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.520 We've seen examples of this. And the other one is 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.719 deporting violent criminal gang members is another one where eighty 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.040 percent of the country, Republican or a Democrat, agrees with 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.200 that as a principle as a philosophy, and they're not 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.160 so All those examples show that there is a disconnect 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.960 between some of these leading indicators like John Stewart, Van Jones, 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.280 Bill Maher, some of those guys who are a little 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.360 bit ahead of the curve from the left with diagnosing 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.559 the reality that's facing the party right now. But and 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.640 what they're saying versus you know what the voices in 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.920 the room and on the air are throwing down with 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.439 such as these issues that I just mentioned. And until 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.480 that disconnect is closed, that gap is closed, it looks 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.360 like this downwards viral is continuing. I found that poll 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:10.480 remarkable too, that it's the lowest point twenty seven points 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.360 of approval, as you showed in that chart, is the 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.640 lowest since the nineteen nineties, which is a Clinton years. 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.760 So it's fascinating. It's even the Obama years, which were 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.079 a peak popularity for the Democrats, have sort of come 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.439 and gone and they're way back to where they were 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.160 an entire generation to go. So this is a big deal, 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.880 and they've got to figure out how to regroup, realign 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.319 on a message, and come back to the middle a 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.040 little bit if they want to regain their popularity, and. 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.160 Just quickly, how do they do that if there is 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.440 no willingness to move away from identity politics. If you said, 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.080 and I completely agree with that eighty twenty issue on 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.760 women in men's sports, it seems like a fundamental part 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.640 of the Democratic Party, And how can the party move 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.000 away from an issue that is just so toxic to 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:52.800 the general public. 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.120 I think, you know, the only way out of this 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.720 for them is through and they really have to have 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.600 a and look in the mirror and just realign on 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.280 some of those eighty twenty issues and let go of 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.960 the twenty percent of the base. It's maybe more rabid 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.880 and louder and squeakier and getting all of their attention. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.760 The other thing is there isn't any obvious leader in 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.600 the party right now. Usually you need a leader who 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.679 can do that and corral the group and reorient everybody 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:22.200 around a winning message or two, around the working class, economics, 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.960 sports and all these things. And nobody has stepped into 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.600 that void. There are some familiar faces popping up, obviously, 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.280 but that's another clear gap. So they need a good 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.320 leader and they have to be willing to recalibrate closer 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:34.920 to the mainstream of American opinion. 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.920 Koshagatta, thank you so much for your insights. A quick 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.640 break then, Jared Henderson joins us to pick apart some 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.520 questionable moves by ABC management. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:51.800 Welcome back. 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.160 Joining me now as he does each and every week, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.600 is Sky News, Australia's media watchdog columnist Jared Henderson. Now, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.680 thank you very much for you your list of grievances 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.560 this week, as I like to call them, we spotted 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:10.000 some great ones, including we've got the Global Affairs editor 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.840 John Lyons, and we've spoken about some of his commentary 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.200 in Israel. Well, he's had a little bit of a 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.960 shift of appointment and let's have a listen to how 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:19.680 it was announced. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:20.720 John. 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.280 First of all, I mean we've had you on this 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.680 show many times, but congratulations on your new appointment. 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:27.080 Well, thank you, James. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:31.120 It's great to be trying to translate the Trump presidency 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:32.360 to an Australian audience. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.320 There is a there's a very negative sting on there, 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.080 and the point that I would make as well, if 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.960 you look at the polling. We've already discussed it earlier 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.360 in the show, but the polling has been rather positive 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.680 for Trump, so it doesn't really matter what Australians think 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.400 of Trump, but back there they're positive about some of 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.480 the things he's doing. Whereas John Lyons has to go 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.000 in there and essentially make the case that he has 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.640 to explain the chaos of a Trump. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:02.080 President's going to translate Trump for Australia. You and I 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.520 we can get a translation of Trump if we listened 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.000 to John, who's now over there for a couple of years. 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.200 Apparently pretty nice position because they've already got three people there, 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.840 so why they needed John Lyons, I don't know. And 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.800 in any event, if you want to know what's going 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:17.280 on in the United States, to get a much better 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.920 coverage on Sky News and Fox News, and the lead 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.320 up to the last election, for example, than you ever 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.560 did on the ABC. But now John's there to translated 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:29.680 for us. That's okay. So he's an anti he's an 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.040 Israel antagonist, and he's now gone to the United States 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.960 where he's a Trump antagonist, but he's going to translate 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:36.360 it for us. 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.960 Do you think he's been shifted because of criticism. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.600 I have no knowledge of that, but it wouldn't surprise me. 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.360 I mean, it's an easy way to move him, and 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.480 I think originally he was probably moved because he wanted 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.960 the job of director of News and he didn't get 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.400 it and went to Justin Stevens, and so they gave 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.600 him the Global Affairs editorship. Now he's been in controversy 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.800 on that, and now they've given him the America's editor 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.240 So maybe they want to move him around because he's needed, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.640 or maybe it's a convenient place to put him. Bear 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.359 in mind, it's only a year or so ago that 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.240 he that he virtually supported a vote of no confidence 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:17.840 in their ABC management manager, David Anderson, which is I 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:19.280 mean in. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.600 That place is a circus, isn't it? Well? 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.400 In any commercial organization, if you've voted if you've voted 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.320 a vote of no confidence in the Chief executive, you'll 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.159 be out the door in the afternoon. But in the 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.119 ABC they give you two plumb appointments to keep you quiet. 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.520 I think that's my interpretation. Of course I could be wrong. 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.800 Yeah, well, moving on now, because you've spotted some a 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.920 very soft interview in seven thirty. It's the ABC's flagship show, 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.480 Current Affairs Show, and they gave Jim Chalmers what I 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.840 think we could all argue is a little bit of 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:47.359 a soft go. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:49.040 Now. 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:53.320 You've described the one point two billion hit from Cyclone 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:57.000 Alfred as a quote big new pressure on the budget. 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:01.439 As important as this is with government spending forecast at 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.879 about seven hundred and thirty billion this financial year, is 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.400 emphasizing this a form of misdirection ahead of the budget. 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:10.920 Of course it isn't. 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.440 And then straight after that Ferguson spent a very long 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.320 time with Laura Tingle criticizing Peter Dutton. 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.639 It's sounding really much like policy on the run and 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:27.520 that's making his colleagues very nervous. We're only maybe a 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.840 week from the election being called and Peter Dutton still 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.280 saying don't worry, it will announce our policies in the 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:34.280 election campaign. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.159 Laura Tingle, thank you very much indeed for coming in 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.400 to explain that today's events. Thank you, Thanks. 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:44.439 Sarah, rather extraordinary commentary. Laura Tingle's got form here, but 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.480 there's a vitriol that comes through when she talks about 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:49.040 Peter Well. 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:53.199 Sarah Ferguson's wrong. She did not explain today's events. She 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.280 had a go at Peter Dutton and she didn't mention 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.400 the treasurer. And now, of course the big issue, I mean, 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.040 wherever you stand politically, the big issue at the moment 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:04.919 is the deficit and debt in economic terms. But that 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.960 Laura Tingle didn't touch that and said she's the whole session. 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.240 She does part into Peter Dutton and we know where 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.439 she sounds on Peter Dutton. It's sort of she doesn't 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.600 like him, you know, and that's pretty evident. But if 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:20.160 you've got a political correspondent reporting on today the days 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.639 of ensn Canbra, you should report on the days of 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:24.840 ENS and Canberra. And there were more stories around than 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.120 Peter Dutton on that day, for sure. 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.919 There's no neutrality in her language. Everything just has to 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.840 be this negative stem and it's so obvious to anybody watching. 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.960 Well, she can't hide it, and she probably doesn't try 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:42.000 to hide it. But so she's not much good into hypocrisies. 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.280 I mean she I could just imagine all the producers 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:45.760 cheering when she gets off set. 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:49.560 Oh yeah, that's happened at the ABC. It happened when 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.760 I was supporting the Republic and I'd come out the 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.280 door and that all be cheering. But when I supported 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.600 John Howard on IRAQ B, I wouldn't talk to me. 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.560 Well, finally we're going to have another look some anti 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.280 Israel bias that we've picked up. 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:03.639 This time it's Sally Sarah. 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:07.639 The Israeli government says that your office is anti Semitic 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:11.600 and the allegations in these incidents are false. Did the 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:15.600 Israeli government take part in the investigations behind this report? 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.600 The Israeli government, from the very beginning of our commission 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.800 in twenty twenty one, has refused to cooperate with us 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:23.520 in any way. 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:27.040