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Speaker 1: On scoring wields Australia. This is the Reader Paney Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show.

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Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, more on the fallout from Pauline Hansen's

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Speaker 3: burker stunt in the Senate. Patrick Carlin and Colleen Harken

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Speaker 3: will be here to cover the day's top headlines. Greta

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Speaker 3: Thunberg banned from Venice after shar other protests died its

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Speaker 3: famous Canal Green Kosher Gator will cover that and other

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Speaker 3: big international headlines. Armi Horowitz will be here with the

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Speaker 3: latest from the US, including anti Ice activists attacking businesses

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Speaker 3: that cooperate with enforcement agency.

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Speaker 2: And Alex Stein will join me to discuss the latest

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Speaker 2: debunked conspiracy theory and Left is Losing It features this racist.

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Speaker 4: Wooman wait men are literally the single greatest threat to

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Speaker 4: humans being fed, how clothed, having their basic needs. Wait

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Speaker 4: Men are the greatest threat to that.

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Speaker 3: But first, some drama in parliament yesterday was Senator Pauline

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Speaker 3: Hanson suspended from the Senate for wearing a burker onto

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Speaker 3: the floor of Parliament. The stunt came minutes after Santa

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Speaker 3: Hanson was denied leave by the Government to table a

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Speaker 3: bill that would see burker's and full face coverings banned.

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Speaker 3: This is the same burker she wore in Parliament in

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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. The move drew criticism from many senators, including

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Speaker 3: the Greens, Marine Ferruki and former Labor MP now independent

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Speaker 3: for Team of Payment.

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Speaker 2: But racism should not be the choice of the Senate.

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Speaker 2: This is a racist.

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Speaker 5: Senator, Senator displaying blend.

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Speaker 6: Racism in resident.

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Speaker 7: If this is about the dress code, she is disrespecting

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Speaker 7: of faith. She is disrespecting the Muslims down there, Muslim Australians.

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Speaker 7: It's absolutely unconstitutional. This need to be dealt with immediately

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Speaker 7: before we proceed.

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Speaker 3: The move also garnered meta attention overseas, with one British

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Speaker 3: outlet calling Senator Hanson a far right politician.

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Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson has also.

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Speaker 3: Been suspended from the Senate for seven days, but she

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Speaker 3: didn't seem too worried early today.

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Speaker 1: I'm censured. Does it really worry me? No, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: for seven days, not at all. I'll stand my ground

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Speaker 1: and what I believe in I will continue to do so.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on This is News Corp

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Speaker 3: Senior writer Patrick Carline and Institute of Public Affairs Research

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Speaker 3: fellow Colleen Harkin.

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Speaker 2: Patrick, I'll start with you.

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Speaker 3: Why can't Pauline Hanson have this bill tabled?

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Speaker 2: What is taboo about this topic?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think every politician actually came out to bag

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Speaker 6: her for this. It was never going to get up,

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Speaker 6: but paul and Hanson did get exactly what she wanted.

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Speaker 6: She's got attention brought to this issue, and ironically it

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Speaker 6: was from the activist senators from Peruki, Payment and Thought

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Speaker 6: who actually made it headlines by being so angry about it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're still going to laugh at the irony

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Speaker 6: of that, don't you.

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Speaker 2: They did.

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Speaker 3: Those MPs certainly had a go, but Colleen, so did

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Speaker 3: labor and coalition MPs. Now, there are a number of

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Speaker 3: countries around the world that have banned full face coverings.

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Speaker 2: And we're not talking about backward countries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about countries like France, Belgium, Denmark. Now,

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Speaker 3: why can't we even discuss this issue here?

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Speaker 8: My understanding is there are twenty four countries who have

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Speaker 8: banned the burker. Look, we've seen a significant rise in

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Speaker 8: support for one nation.

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Speaker 2: I think this is part of the reason.

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Speaker 8: Why is that paulin Hansen is prepared to have those

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Speaker 8: hard conversations. We do need a national conversation debate about

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Speaker 8: social cohesion, about integration and Australian values. And to your point, Patrick,

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Speaker 8: it is the irony that the very people who wanted

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Speaker 8: you know, objecting to banning the burken it, they've banned

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Speaker 8: pulling from wearing you know, it is that that is

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Speaker 8: an irony.

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Speaker 3: I think those images, though I know she's done it before,

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Speaker 3: it it's exact same burker, she kept it in her

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Speaker 3: office all these years, but it's just iconic, that image

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Speaker 3: of her on the floor of the Parliament with the burker,

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Speaker 3: with the stockings and the heels visible. I just think

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Speaker 3: those images are going to remain for many years.

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Speaker 6: It's creepy.

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Speaker 2: It looks creepy, it looks, well, this is a thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm someone who escaped from an Islamist country,

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Speaker 3: and even in that Islamus country, burkers were not commonplace.

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Speaker 3: But it is a tool of oppression. It is used

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Speaker 3: to subjugate women. And the fact that we've got parliamentarians

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Speaker 3: the women's rights issue, Colleen, where has that gone? Why

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Speaker 3: face coverings. It's a cultural imperative amongst some of them,

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Speaker 3: and it is not commonplace. Most Muslim women do not

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Speaker 8: I actually think it's even a broader issue that women

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Speaker 8: on the left typically don't support women. They talk about

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Speaker 8: But when we've seen what's happened to Senator Reynolds and

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Speaker 8: what we've seen happened to Fiona Brown, I mean, where

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Speaker 8: are the women supporting guests too, women that say so?

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Speaker 8: Women on the left cry all of this women's rights,

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Speaker 8: but when push comes to shove and their voice is required,

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Speaker 3: And when it comes to the treatment of Muslim women

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Speaker 3: in particular, that's when they're really go into hiding because

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Speaker 3: they are just so terrified of having that debate. Now,

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Speaker 3: Senator Payment doubled down on her criticism of Pauline Hanson

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Speaker 3: after the Senate was suspended yesterday.

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Speaker 7: This is what she had to say, Burker didn't raise

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Speaker 7: your rent. Pauline knows that the Burker didn't cause the

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Speaker 7: housing crisis. Working people of every background are being squeezed

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Speaker 7: from all sides, and Pauline Hansen wants you to blame

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Speaker 7: brown people for it.

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Speaker 2: It's just a bizarre argument. Patrick.

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Speaker 3: She's defending the Burker there, tying it to as if

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Speaker 3: it's synonymous with being Muslim.

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Speaker 2: It is not.

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Speaker 3: And she's injecting race into issues that don't concern race.

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Speaker 3: The housing issue there, she's doing precisely what she's accusing

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Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson of doing, which is using race to further

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Speaker 6: Agenda, coating completely separate ideas and actually making a meal

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Speaker 6: of it. I mean a lot of what Senator and

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Speaker 6: Who really is oddously with the realities in these countries

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Speaker 6: me as very young and very naive. It's not actually

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Speaker 3: This is typical of the left, though, to make everything

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Speaker 3: about race. Muslims come from every shade under the sun.

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Speaker 3: You got blonde Muslims, you have Asian Muslims, you've got

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Speaker 3: And this isn't really about Muslims or Islam. It's about

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Speaker 3: a fairly extreme interpretation, which is the full face coverings,

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Speaker 3: which to me dehumanizes the women who wear them.

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Speaker 2: You can't see them, you can't.

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Speaker 3: React and share normal human interaction with them because they're

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they're completely covered. I also noted Senator Payment accusing

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Speaker 8: it of being anti against the Constitution, which, okay, crazy

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Speaker 8: actually intended to say that, but it is what she said.

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Speaker 8: It is in handside, now, you know. I mean this

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Speaker 8: argument that they keep twisting and turning is you know.

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Speaker 8: I think what happens is that people get very tired

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Speaker 8: of this sort of activist politician. We actually want serious

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Speaker 8: conversations about what is happening to our social cohesion and

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Speaker 8: what is happening to our standard of living in our

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Speaker 3: Now, the afl W has come under fire for it's

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Country before the preliminary final between Carlton and

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Speaker 3: Brisbane on Saturday night. Now watch this. We're just going

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Speaker 3: to play you a small part of it. But you've

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Speaker 3: got Aboriginal elder Luiz of Bonner here lecturing the crowd

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Speaker 3: about racial justice and even promoting her own business.

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Speaker 9: Indigenous led justice models such as Kury and Murray Courts,

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Speaker 9: Mara and Gurka Justice Reinvestment Project, Maori Range, Atari Courts,

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Speaker 9: Canadian Sentence and Service of Native American Healing to Wellness Courts.

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Speaker 10: Damage.

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Speaker 9: It's very consistently stronger outcomes of mainstream detention systems. If

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Speaker 9: you wish to discuss as catch up with me afterwards.

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Speaker 9: Here's my business card.

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Speaker 2: She sped read through that.

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Speaker 3: I think she fitted about five minutes into her two

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Speaker 2: Speech, but most of it was about a lecture.

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Speaker 3: About a national crisis caused by systematic racism and colonization. Patrick,

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Speaker 3: It's like the AFLW wants to create more reasons for

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Speaker 3: football fans not to watch. I mean, there are enough

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Speaker 3: reasons already.

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Speaker 2: This was just bizarre. I think even some of the

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Speaker 6: Look, it was a manifesto, wasn't it. There was no

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Speaker 6: That actually is a distraction.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't very welcoming. I didn't feel welcome.

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Speaker 6: And she rushed through it. It's like she had a

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Speaker 6: lot to say in a very short space of time. Look,

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of people will have found that offensive.

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Speaker 6: They're watching to watch football and suddenly they're being attacked

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Speaker 6: and sort of told off and berated all these systemic

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Speaker 6: like in the AFL. Why wasn't that exactly.

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Speaker 3: This is the AFL Colleen, that every single club, the

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was on the wrong side of history.

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Speaker 3: And I do remember during that referendum debate, Marshall Langton

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Speaker 3: telling us that if the referendum didn't pass, we would

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Speaker 3: be spared these ceremonies.

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Speaker 2: But here we are they're getting longer and more political.

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Speaker 11: Ye.

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Speaker 8: Look, I thought that sort of close to three minutes

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Speaker 8: was an appalling, abusive, privileged position. People go to watch

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Speaker 8: sport to enjoy it, cheer along their team and have

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Speaker 8: a good time. They don't go to be lectured about

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Speaker 8: allegations of systemic racism or to be promoted to somebody's

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Speaker 8: private business. I think most people who go willingly. You know,

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Speaker 8: a lot of Uesstonians quite like the welcome the country now.

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Speaker 8: They accept it or they tolerate it politely, and so

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Speaker 8: they just don't.

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Speaker 6: They don't.

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Speaker 8: There is no place for this sort of badgering of

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Speaker 8: people when they're out to have a happy time supporting

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and as I think Warren Mundine said, if it

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Speaker 3: was supposed to be a welcome to country, the welcome

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Speaker 3: part was lost because.

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Speaker 2: It was welcoming at all. Not at all.

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Speaker 3: Now let's quickly touch on this. We've been talking about

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Speaker 3: this for several weeks now. It seems oppositional leader Susan

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Speaker 3: Lee will likely avoid a leadership challenge as Parliament prepares

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Speaker 3: to wrap up for the year. The Liberal leader will

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Speaker 3: face a lot of pressure over the summer break to

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Speaker 3: improve the coalition's primary vote, which is sitting on twenty

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Speaker 3: four percent, a historic low. Patrick Andrew Hasty is hot

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Speaker 3: on her heels. They're talking about perhaps March being the

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Speaker 3: timeline she's got to prove herself.

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Speaker 6: Look, she's limped to the end of the year, like

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Speaker 3: I'd usually say this guy news mob or a pack

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Speaker 2: But you're getting something right for once. Well there you go.

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Speaker 10: I think this is great.

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Speaker 6: Two public figures who fundamentally oppose each other on pretty

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Speaker 3: And I like that she's proud of looking like Kim

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Speaker 8: Well you know you've made it, Rita, when Lydia Thorpe

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Sky.

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Speaker 11: Yes, she's of this ascendant movement that wants to end

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Speaker 10: What this is it?

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Speaker 2: Alarmism, yep, until the next thing opens up for her,

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Speaker 3: Now, we've discussed in recent years the rise of the

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Speaker 11: They do because the fundamentals in Europe and Latin America

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Speaker 10: It's like next man up.

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Speaker 11: Not to say that other leaders may fall down or

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Speaker 11: I think he's at eleven to sixteen percent in the

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Speaker 11: He has put that country on the map in a

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Speaker 2: In the world for this reason.

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Speaker 3: And the philosophy is so at odds with what we've

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Speaker 11: It's simple in principle, but for some reason it's not

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Speaker 3: that petition includes over fifty former and current police officers

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Speaker 3: who make sworn declarations that the technique chauven use restrained

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Speaker 3: George Floyd. The knee on the neck was part of

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Speaker 3: the training given to Minneapolis Police Department officers.

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Speaker 2: Kosher, this is something that is a sleeper issue. I

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Speaker 2: see it come up.

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Speaker 3: There is a lot of interest in it because people

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Speaker 3: have learned a great deal more about that incident. They've

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Speaker 3: learned a great deal more about the toxicology report, for example,

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Speaker 3: and they think this is a miscarriage of justice. I've

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Speaker 3: got to say, when I first saw it, I thought

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Speaker 3: this guy's guilty. He deserves to go away, throw away

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Speaker 3: the key.

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Speaker 2: But the information that's come out since then paints a

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Speaker 2: very different picture.

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Speaker 11: I think you've put it very well.

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Speaker 2: It is a sleeper issue.

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Speaker 11: It is very sad because the clock is ticking, and

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Speaker 11: every day that it takes he's in there. And if

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Speaker 11: it was a miscarriacter justice or an over criminalization. You

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Speaker 11: don't get that time back if that is the case.

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Speaker 11: It is also an issue that was so engulfed by

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Speaker 11: the court of public opinion on top of the law.

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Speaker 11: We like to say justice is blind and the system

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Speaker 11: is perfect, and you never miscalculate or over prosecute. Does happen,

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Speaker 11: hopefully not often, but it can happen. And this thing

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Speaker 11: you had everything from the riots as you say, to

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Speaker 11: the corporate logos black all over LinkedIn to everybody being

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Speaker 11: asked about it, and George Floyd was elevated to almost

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Speaker 11: sainthood status. Who's very flawed individual, which doesn't excuse what

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Speaker 11: may or may not have happened here, but just nobody

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Speaker 11: could have the guts to even say, even have this

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Speaker 11: discussion back then would have probably gotten people canceled. And

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Speaker 11: I do think that played a role in the way

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Speaker 11: the jury poll probably reacted or the way the evidence

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Speaker 11: was put forward. Will never know to what extent, but

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Speaker 11: you know, it's impossible to insulate the jury and the

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Speaker 11: whole system from that. And who knows how much of

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Speaker 11: that played a role. It certainly seems to plead some

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Speaker 11: rule for sure.

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Speaker 3: Now to an issue I don't fully understand still bitcoin,

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Speaker 3: it's had its worst month in history, falling to around

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Speaker 3: eighty thousand dollars US. Still seems like a lot, but

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Speaker 3: it is its lowest value in over seven months. Five

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Speaker 3: hundred billion in value has been wiped off, and investors

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Speaker 3: who've gone into debt to buy bitcoin are dumping their

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Speaker 3: coins to pay off loans. Kosher, what's driving this plunge?

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Speaker 3: Do you understand bitcoin? Because I still don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people.

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Speaker 11: I mean, it is very complicated, and I certainly don't

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Speaker 11: want to suggest that I know all the ins and

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Speaker 11: outs of it. But what happened is it went from

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Speaker 11: about forty thousand per bitcoin to one hundred thousand in

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Speaker 11: one year. So that's a rapid up rise. Yeah, And

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Speaker 11: were the fundamentals driving that only or were there other

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Speaker 11: things around? Its speculation leverage and it's the ladder. I mean,

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Speaker 11: the fundamentals are what they are. There's value if you

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Speaker 11: believe in decentralized or crypto exchanges and all that.

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Speaker 3: But that kind of a bull riased on like it

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Speaker 3: seems to be a currency based on I don't know,

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Speaker 3: mining electricity or something.

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Speaker 2: It seems not to have a value based That's what

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Speaker 2: confuses me about it. Then it is so volatile.

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Speaker 3: I mean it has had these dramatic increases and drops,

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Speaker 3: but overall it's trending.

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Speaker 11: The crux of it is there's like a finite amount

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Speaker 11: of this. There's like twenty one million bitcoin or something

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Speaker 11: like that. It will never be increased, is you know,

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Speaker 11: the belief system. So it's kind of like gold or

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Speaker 11: what have you that there's a finite supply, and so

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Speaker 11: that's why there will always be inherent value to it.

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Speaker 11: But there's so much around this. Where there was institutional buying,

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Speaker 11: there is extreme, extreme leverage, and all of that at once.

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Speaker 11: It's sort of a cascade effect of many things in

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Speaker 11: the system that are changing and flipping it once. Where

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Speaker 11: institutions are dumping interest rates they were expecting would drop

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Speaker 11: by a certain timeframe, they didn't. And then what's happening

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Speaker 11: is those big institutions can cut their losses and dump.

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Speaker 11: The profit takers did that and have made a lot

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Speaker 11: of money over that ull run, the ones who have

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Speaker 11: the ability to it for the long runner holding it.

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Speaker 11: So these other people got wiped out, The ones who

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Speaker 11: took on debt to buy.

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Speaker 2: It once who brought one hundred thousands by the ones

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Speaker 2: who and.

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Speaker 11: No one is buying it now, So then that will

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Speaker 11: lead to a tank until there's a correction to whatever

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Speaker 11: the market believes is a fair price, and then I

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Speaker 11: think people might get.

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Speaker 2: Back in Koshergator, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Pleasure still to karma.

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Speaker 3: Lefties losing it plus anti ICE activists attack businesses.

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Speaker 2: That cooperate with the enforcement agency. Mi Horowitz joins me.

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Speaker 3: Next, you're watching the Rida Panny Show, and it's time

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Speaker 3: for lefties losing it.

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Speaker 2: In recent weeks, we.

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Speaker 3: Have heard so much about fractures on the right, about

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Speaker 3: the magabase being divided, about Trump losing support among Republicans.

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Speaker 3: It's times like this I like to check in with

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Speaker 3: CNN's polling expert Harry Enton.

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Speaker 2: That is it, Harry, is the president losing Republicans?

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Speaker 5: No, Look, this is still Donald Trump's Republican party, and

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Speaker 5: we can see it here.

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Speaker 6: It's like a rock.

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Speaker 5: To quote Bob Sieger, I mean, take a look here,

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Speaker 5: Republicans who approve of Trump. Six months ago, it was

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Speaker 5: eighty seven percent. Now, well, hello, it's the same number.

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Speaker 5: It's eighty seven percent. He has not lost any support

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Speaker 5: among Republicans compared to six months ago. As I said

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Speaker 5: at the beginning, he's like a rock. He's like a rock.

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Speaker 5: The Republican base is sticking by Donald Trump at this

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Speaker 5: point in two.

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Speaker 3: Really, that's fascinating, Harry. I wonder how it compares to

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Speaker 3: other recent presidents. Now, this next bit is likely to

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Speaker 3: opposite our sensitive lifty viewers.

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Speaker 2: So perhaps I don't know golf and make a cup

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Speaker 2: of tea.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Donald Trump. If you look at twenty first century

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Speaker 5: president's own party approval at this point in term two,

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Speaker 5: who leads the pack, it's Donald John Trump. Eighty seven

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Speaker 5: percent of Republicans approved Donald John Trump. You go back

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Speaker 5: to twenty thirteen, seventy eight percent of Democrats supported Barack Obama,

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Speaker 5: and it was seventy eight percent of Republicans who supported

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Speaker 5: George W. Bush back in two thousand and five. At

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Speaker 5: this point, so Donald Trump has the biggest own party

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Speaker 5: highest own party approval of any president who served their

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Speaker 5: entire second term in the twenty first cents.

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Speaker 2: That was fine.

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Speaker 3: Now let's check out some tolerant lefties being delightfully inclusive

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Speaker 3: and kind when met with someone who may have a

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Speaker 3: differing view to them. Of course, they immediately resort to

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Speaker 3: threats and violence.

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Speaker 10: With the sign right, A lot of this security has weapons.

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Speaker 10: You should get gotty. What are you gonna do? You're

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Speaker 10: a nobody, You're a nobody. You're a little cut nobody,

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Speaker 10: and so are you going to use weapons?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: We might, we might? Really, nobody?

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Speaker 10: Do you support the time? I said?

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Speaker 5: Nobody been?

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Speaker 10: I support you leaving? We're not going to leave it? Nobody.

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Speaker 3: Can't you just feel the love of such well balanced

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Speaker 3: and compassionate people.

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Speaker 13: Okay, so he is dragging Trump and ice officials, law enforcement.

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Speaker 6: Excuse me, ma'am, do.

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Speaker 10: You support us? They are dragging the president? What are them?

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Speaker 6: You're an arch kid?

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 10: Am I an art really inclusive? Really implusive? You know?

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Speaker 2: The left doesn't just have a violence problem, that much

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Speaker 2: is clear. They also have a racism problem.

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Speaker 3: The open hostility towards white people, particularly white men, The

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Speaker 3: unrepentant racism.

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Speaker 2: Has been normalized for far too long.

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Speaker 3: This next woman speaks without fear of being labeled a

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Speaker 3: hideous races because.

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Speaker 2: She's heard this sort of toxic retric everywhere.

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Speaker 10: Harley Kirk like, I'm.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad the guy's dad.

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Speaker 10: Actually, you're glad. Yeah, I'm glad.

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Speaker 4: White men are literally the single greatest threat to humans

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Speaker 4: being fed, housed, clothed, having their basic needs. White men

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Speaker 4: are the greatest threat to that.

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Speaker 10: Well, I don't see any problems gouda a white men.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're also.

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Speaker 10: Unable to name me an example a right, The example.

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Speaker 4: Is you having the privilege to even be out here.

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Speaker 3: Now, you remember Donald Trump and New York City Mayor

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Speaker 3: A Legsar and ma'n Donnie having a very civilized, polite

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Speaker 3: get together in the White House. Well, the lefties lost

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Speaker 3: it after that because Zauren didn't attack the President in

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Speaker 3: the way they would have liked.

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Speaker 2: So, like a good little coward, he's now gone back

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Speaker 2: to calling President Trump a fascist. He's gone from this,

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Speaker 2: are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?

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Speaker 6: I've spoken about That's okay, Okay, it's easier, It's easier

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Speaker 6: than explaining.

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Speaker 2: A better Yep.

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Speaker 3: He's gone from that to now claiming that he in

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Speaker 3: fact answered yes to that question and he does see

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump as a fascist.

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Speaker 14: Mister mayrrilact, just to be very clear, do you think

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Speaker 14: that President Trump is a fascist?

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Speaker 6: And after President Trump said that. I said, yes, and

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Speaker 6: so you do. And that's something that I've said in

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Speaker 6: the past I say today.

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Speaker 14: And you've also said in the past that President Trump

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Speaker 14: has engaged in a quote attack on our democracy.

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Speaker 2: You've called him a despot.

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Speaker 14: Do you still believe President Trump is a threat to

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Speaker 14: the democracy.

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Speaker 10: Everything that I've said in the past, I continue to believe.

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Speaker 3: Pathetic, Zoren, Absolutely pathetic. Now let's have a look at

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Speaker 3: some of the entitled antics of protesters or helping to

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Speaker 3: destroy the profitability of businesses that cooperate with Immigration and

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Speaker 3: Customs enforcement eyes, businesses that simply comply.

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Speaker 2: With the law. Watch these idiot lefties lining up to

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Speaker 2: buy seventeen cent ice.

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Speaker 3: Scrapers at home depot, then returning them, and then buying them,

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Speaker 3: which essentially stops anyone else, like real customers being able

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Speaker 3: to shop at home depot.

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Speaker 2: What are you vain, Nate scraper? N thanks, what are

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Speaker 2: your vane?

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Speaker 7: We are?

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Speaker 3: Let's bring in documentary filmmaker and commentator Army Horowitz. Army

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Speaker 3: no shock that those scenes are from California. This would

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Speaker 3: be costing affected businesses a fortune.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, California, my home state. Oh, I'm so proud by

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Speaker 15: the way, who's right the ice scrapers are seventeen cents, Well,

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Speaker 15: obviously it's marg.

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Speaker 10: I looked at my local store I heard about this.

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Speaker 15: They're two ninety nine, So yeah, I would have gone

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Speaker 15: on line for them all, so just wouldn't have returned them.

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Speaker 10: Are too good a deal.

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Speaker 15: Look for them, this is a two fer right, which

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Speaker 15: means like, on the one hand, they get to two

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Speaker 15: things at one time.

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Speaker 10: Right, they get to protest the fascism of.

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Speaker 15: Trump right and the ice raids, and at the same

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Speaker 15: time also helped to take down capitalism.

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Speaker 10: So for them it was a two for one deal.

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Speaker 15: You know, the right that never does this right when

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Speaker 15: we have Obviously the right has issues with the left,

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Speaker 15: issues with different governments in the city government, state governments.

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Speaker 10: President was on the left just last year. But we

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Speaker 10: didn't do this thing.

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Speaker 15: We didn't disrupt commerce, we didn't disrupt people's lives, we

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Speaker 15: didn't go to people's home. It's not the way the

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Speaker 15: right does business. And by the way, I don't know

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Speaker 15: if you saw that in the clip, but they had these.

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Speaker 15: They had twenty four white crosses to basically saying, if

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Speaker 15: there are twenty four people who died in ice custody,

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Speaker 15: since Donald Trump will, as you know, area, I'm a

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Speaker 15: data guy.

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Speaker 10: I don't just let that go. I go into the.

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Speaker 15: Numbers, I go into the weeds. I did it with

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Speaker 15: this also because that didn't seem right to me. And

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Speaker 15: yet indeed there were between twenty and twenty four deaths,

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Speaker 15: but yet not exactly an ice custody. I'm talking to

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Speaker 15: the people that died were actually mostly in hospitals where

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Speaker 15: the US government was actually trying to treat them for

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Speaker 15: underlying condition. They died in the hospital. Some of them

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Speaker 15: were suicides. But of course, let's not let the truth

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Speaker 15: get in the way of the narrative of the left right.

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Speaker 15: And you know, I want to point out another thing

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Speaker 15: that Home Depot they're not involved in these ice raids.

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Speaker 15: They don't coordinate with the US government. They went to

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Speaker 15: great pains to say we have nothing to do with this.

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Speaker 15: But of course the left doesn't care about the truth,

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Speaker 15: doesn't care about that. And I'll just add one last

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Speaker 15: thing about this, Rita. Look, I'm all, as you know,

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Speaker 15: we've talked about illegal immigration for years on the show,

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Speaker 15: and there's I'm going to take a backseat to no

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Speaker 15: one on how I wanted to stop illegal immigration and

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Speaker 15: get rid of illegals in this country.

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Speaker 10: But it's also a very bad look.

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Speaker 15: Okay, when you run into home depot and grabbing people

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Speaker 15: off the park.

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Speaker 10: You know, the parking lot are trying to get jobs.

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Speaker 15: It's one of the reasons, just from the optics perspective,

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Speaker 15: it's one of the reasons why there's there's been a

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Speaker 15: degradation and support of Donald Trump with the Latino community,

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Speaker 15: which in no small way put them over the top.

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Speaker 15: So I think also want I have to look at

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Speaker 15: the politics of this, and it doesn't look good.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't.

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Speaker 3: But if you want to have mass deportations, you're going

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Speaker 3: to have to do that. It's not there's no nice

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Speaker 3: way of going about this. There's no way where you're

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Speaker 3: going to be able to deport people who are in

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Speaker 3: the country illegally without scenes that are like that, and

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Speaker 3: they're sometimes emotional and hard to witness. But it's what

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Speaker 3: he was elected on. He has a mandate to do it.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, let's stick with law and order. There's

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Speaker 3: been another shocking, unprovoked, violent attack on public transport with

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Speaker 3: a young woman set alight by someone who looks to

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Speaker 3: be a criminal, and people are drawing comparisons with this case,

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Speaker 3: with the horrific murder of Irena Zurutzka, who's brutal stabbing

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Speaker 3: was caught on video. The twenty three year old Ukraine

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Speaker 3: refugee was killed by someone who should have been behind bars.

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Speaker 2: And that is also the case with this latest attack.

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Speaker 3: Where twenty six year old Bethanymge was set on fire

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Speaker 3: on a Chicago l train, allegedly by Lawrence Reid. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is a man with seventy two prior arrests, his

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Speaker 3: names are red, and he's.

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Speaker 2: Now facing terrorism charges. But incredibly army, the judge initially.

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Speaker 3: Overruled a request from prosecutors to have read locked up.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this man should have been behind bars. This

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Speaker 3: attack should have never happened. Thankfully, Bethany has survived the attack,

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Speaker 3: but she has suffered horrific injuries.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, grievous, terrible injuries that may follow her for the

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Speaker 15: best for her life. Unfortunately, another example of Blue City

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Speaker 15: failures on crime. And I think that we have been

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Speaker 15: facing in New York City and we'll be facing obviously

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Speaker 15: acutely with Zoramandani's yeah, seventy two times being arrested. Rita

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Speaker 15: I can't think of something I've ever done seventy two

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Speaker 15: times at all in my life. That's a lot of rest.

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Speaker 15: And by the way, more than that, he broke probation

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Speaker 15: over a dozen times. Just when you break probation once,

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Speaker 15: you're supposed to go back to jail immediately, okay, but

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Speaker 15: it goes back. Remember that the whole bail discussion. We

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Speaker 15: had that video I shot just you know, a couple

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Speaker 15: of weeks ago, we talked about it. It's so fascinating

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Speaker 15: because if you remember in that video, I was asking people,

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Speaker 15: does your criminal hit Do you think your criminal history

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Speaker 15: should be part of how the judge looks at what

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Speaker 15: you're sentencing will be? The answer is obviously yes, right,

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Speaker 15: I mean, what else you're gonna go by? But the

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Speaker 15: left refuses to do that. This is the example, you know,

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Speaker 15: of the of that video coming to life where the

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Speaker 15: judge themselves are saying I'm not going to take their criminal.

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Speaker 10: History into account of It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 15: And by the way, you know, this idea of setting

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Speaker 15: people a blaze on our city's transport systems, this is

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Speaker 15: not an isolated incident at all. In fact, I was

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Speaker 15: looking at it in the last twelve months Riada. Five

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Speaker 15: people in Chicago and New York alone were set on

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Speaker 15: fire in those transit five people Riata.

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Speaker 10: Okay, this is an epidemic. Okay, no, you can't. This

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Speaker 10: is unbelievable.

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Speaker 15: And look, this is also I want to point out

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Speaker 15: a really a mental health crisis also, and I think

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Speaker 15: it's an example. I've said for years that I hate

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Speaker 15: to say it, but you know, we know that a

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Speaker 15: lot of these crimes are committed by people mental health.

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Speaker 10: I think we need to go back.

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Speaker 15: It was Reagan who actually destitutionalized mental health criminals, and

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Speaker 15: I think we have to restitutionalize people. I don't think

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Speaker 15: we have a choice. And last thing, I'll talk about

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Speaker 15: that about Brandon Johnson. The absolute and utter failure of

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Speaker 15: a mayor. It's his response to this was unbelievable. He

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Speaker 15: was talked talking about how, first of all, this is

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Speaker 15: an isolated incident, untrue crime is up massively and Chicago

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Speaker 15: transit authority and I was talking about how he's trying

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Speaker 15: to make Chicago one of the safest big cities in

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Speaker 15: the country.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, total fail.

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Speaker 15: Chicago is three times the national homicide average, and by

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Speaker 15: the way, it has a higher homicide average than mede

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Speaker 15: I in Columbia.

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Speaker 10: So sorry, Brannon Johnson, that's just not the case.

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Speaker 3: He is amongst the worst mayors in America. And that's

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Speaker 3: saying something. Army before you go. President Donald Trump signed

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Speaker 3: an executive order earlier today that designates chapters of the

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Speaker 3: Muslim Brotherhood as foreign terrorist organizations. The Muslim Brotherhood is

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Speaker 3: a Sunni Islamist organization founded in Egypt back in nineteen

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Speaker 3: twenty eight, and the White House argues this designation will

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Speaker 3: help the US combat the group's transnational network, which is

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Speaker 3: set to fuel terrorism against US interests and allies in

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Speaker 3: the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Army, is there going to be much.

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Speaker 3: Resistance to this move by Donald Trump? Surely the Democrats

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Speaker 3: aren't going to side with the Islamist Brotherhood.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: First of all, look, I spent over a year researching

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Speaker 15: and interviewing members of the Muslim Brotherhood around the world.

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Speaker 10: I went to Cairo and Istanbul.

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Speaker 15: And Beirute, Germany, and I met with dozens of Muslim

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Speaker 15: Brotherhood leaders, leaders and lay people around the world.

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Speaker 10: And I can tell you it's one of the most

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Speaker 10: dangerous organizations that exists.

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Speaker 15: So kudos to the President for designating my asking and

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Speaker 15: pushing this for years as a terrorist organization, and you're

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Speaker 15: as far as your question comes to the left, Yeah,

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Speaker 15: they're going to cry foul this, of course they are.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 15: The Muslim brother was telling me that they have co

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Speaker 15: opted the left. That was part of their strategy and

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Speaker 15: they and they of course adopt the language of the left.

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Speaker 15: They talked about victimhood and colonization, right and occupation. These

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Speaker 15: are all things that they use. They know at the

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Speaker 15: left kind of is attracted to that, and the left

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Speaker 15: has been for the most part supportive. Left makes arguments

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Speaker 15: for them, saying they're not political organization, there religious organization.

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Speaker 10: You can't go after them.

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Speaker 15: You can attack them while they are those things. And

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Speaker 15: by the way, so is organizations like Hamas. But their

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Speaker 15: main point of business is terror.

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Speaker 10: Come as you know, and.

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Speaker 15: I mentioned Hamas a couple of times. Camas the direct

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Speaker 15: offshoot of the Musslim Brotherhood. Al Qaeda is an offshoot

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Speaker 15: of the Muslim brother There are almost a dozen terrorist

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Speaker 15: organizations across the world that consider themselves part of the

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Speaker 15: Muslim Brotherhood. Their slogan is Jihad is the Way and

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Speaker 15: dying for Allah is the greatest good. That's their slogan.

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Speaker 15: This is not me saying this, this is them saying

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Speaker 15: that about themselves. They're incredibly dangerous and by the way,

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Speaker 15: they have really spent a lot of time and effort

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Speaker 15: in Europe and the United States.

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Speaker 10: UH, the largest Islamic organizations in this in the.

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Speaker 15: US care the student organizations are part of the Muslim

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Speaker 15: brother They're associated with the Muslim Brotherhood and also very

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Speaker 15: dangerously they are really involved in the jails. Most people

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Speaker 15: convert to Islam and the jails do it under the

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Speaker 15: auspices of the Muslim Brotherhood. And thirty five to forty

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Speaker 15: thousand people a year are converting to Islam in our

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Speaker 15: jails and the latest fifteen percent of the total population

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Speaker 15: of jails are actually a Muslim. And it's a direct

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Speaker 15: responsible directly.

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Speaker 3: This fascinating the brothers. Yeah, that is fascinating. Army Horowitz,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for the for those insights.

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Speaker 2: Coming up.

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Speaker 3: Erica Kirk forced to address absurd JD vance rumors.

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Speaker 2: Alex Stein joins me next Welcome back Now.

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Speaker 3: Pop star Beyonce and jay Z turned heads, or to

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Speaker 3: be more accurate, Beyonce turned heads with her outfish at

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Speaker 3: the Las Vegas Formula one event bringing comedian and fashionista

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Speaker 3: Alex Stein. Alex, your verdict on Beyonce's latest look?

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Speaker 10: I like it. I think she looks good.

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Speaker 6: Now, jay Z he needs some work.

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Speaker 13: I feel like jay Z is not a very handsome man,

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Speaker 13: and I'm not trying to attack jay Z, but I

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Speaker 13: do think Beyonce from Houston, Texas my state, even though

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Speaker 13: she is crazy, you know, I'm a man. She's showing

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Speaker 13: him off, you know, and God, we need more work.

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Speaker 2: You're forgiving.

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Speaker 3: You're obviously forgiving all the campaignings she did for Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 3: turning up to that rally, fooling people into thinking she

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Speaker 3: was going to perform.

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Speaker 2: That's why the crowds turned up. They thought they were

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Speaker 2: getting a free concert.

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Speaker 3: And then she just gave some awful speech for about

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Speaker 3: three minutes and disappeared.

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Speaker 2: So you forget, You've forgiven all of that, So you

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Speaker 2: are very shallow, indeed, Alex Stein.

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Speaker 3: Now I want to ask you about Morgan Gazer, who

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Speaker 3: was captured, thankfully by Illinois police after she cut off

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Speaker 3: her ankle bracelet monitoring device and fled.

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Speaker 2: This girl's only to twenty three.

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Speaker 10: I thought she was.

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Speaker 3: Still behind bars for repeatedly stabbing a classmate to supposedly

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Speaker 3: appease slender Man. You'll remember that case. Slender Man a

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Speaker 3: fictional character. It's a case Alex that shocked and fascinated

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Speaker 3: America in the world. There's been documentaries, there's been films

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Speaker 3: about it, and this girl was just able to cut

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Speaker 3: off an ankle monitor and disappear.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, Rita.

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Speaker 13: You know, the kind of creepiest and weirdest part of

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Speaker 13: this whole incident is that when she was twelve years old,

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Speaker 13: you know, and she stabbed this woman with her and

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Speaker 13: her friend stabbed another young girl and they were lucky

882
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Speaker 13: that the person that they stabbed lived because they got

883
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 13: a lighter in the less harsh sentence if the person died.

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Speaker 13: So I think that we're going to continue to see

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Speaker 13: Morgan do this kind of thing.

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Speaker 12: You know.

887
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Speaker 6: Obviously she has some sort.

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Speaker 13: Of mental illness to stab anybody, especially at twelve, to

889
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 13: be that violent and influenced by you know, scary movies

890
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 13: or you know, fiction or people telling them to do stuff. Obviously,

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00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 13: she's very mentally ill. So I think we're going to

892
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 13: continue to see her in the news. And she's basically

893
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 13: been raised in a prison, so she probably doesn't even

894
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 13: know how to function in the outside world, you know,

895
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Speaker 13: growing up in group home. So it's not a good situation.

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Speaker 13: And I don't feel too bad for her, But I

897
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 13: know she was a kid, so people can't change. But

898
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 13: you know, there is a saying, you know, zebra can't

899
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 13: change her stripes too.

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00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: I know she was terribly young, but I think at

901
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: that age, you know, repeatedly stabbing someone is not a

902
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 3: good idea.

903
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: So I think she knew what she was doing was wrong.

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Speaker 2: Now this, I can't believe that Erica Kirkaus they even

905
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: had to address this, but she's addressed the controversy around

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00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: hugging the Vice President JD. Vance.

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00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: It was the most absurd conspiracy theories I've heard all year,

908
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: all these lefties suggesting she had acted inappropriately and that

909
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 3: there was something happening between her and JD.

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00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: Vans. I'm going to play you the full hug. You

911
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: know precisely what triggered thousands of lefties. That's it, That's

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Speaker 2: the whole thing.

913
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Speaker 3: But the fact that she put her hand on his

914
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: head gave birth to so many vile videos alex from

915
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: lefties suggesting that she's having an affair and that she'd

916
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: crossed the line and that usher Vance was absolutely furious

917
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Speaker 3: and there were so many ridiculous tags that overnight. Erica

918
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Speaker 3: Kirk addressed the issue with Megan Kelly, forgive me.

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Speaker 11: Did you see people didn't understand the hug that you

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00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 11: and JD had?

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Speaker 4: They went to the weirdest places Erica, my gosh, you guys.

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Speaker 1: Please.

923
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Speaker 12: So for those of you who know me, I never

924
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 12: I'm a very.

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Speaker 10: I love I hug.

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Speaker 2: You're an intense hugger.

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Speaker 12: Last is like heating on a hugh needs a hug themselves.

928
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Speaker 12: I will give you a free hug anytime you want

929
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Speaker 12: to hug. My love language is touch if you will,

930
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 12: but seriously that hug, so I will give you a

931
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Speaker 12: play by play walking They just played the emotional video.

932
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Speaker 12: I'm walking over, he's walking over. I'm starting to cry.

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Speaker 2: He says he's so proud of you, and I say, God,

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Speaker 2: bless you.

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Speaker 12: And I touched the back of his head. Anyone who

936
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Speaker 12: if I have hugged that, I have touched the back

937
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 12: of your head When I hug you, I always say

938
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Speaker 12: God bless you.

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Speaker 10: That's just me.

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Speaker 12: If you want to take that out of context, go

941
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 12: right ahead again. That to me shows that you need

942
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Speaker 12: a hug more than anyone else.

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Speaker 15: So if anyone they were acting like you touch the.

944
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Speaker 12: Back of his ass, I feel like I wouldn't get

945
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Speaker 12: as much hate if I did that versus alex What

946
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Speaker 12: can you say.

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Speaker 2: I just feel so bad that she had to address that.

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Speaker 13: You know, I'm happy that Erica did address it and

949
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 13: laugh at all, because it's absolutely totally ridiculous. And you know,

950
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 13: let's be real, she just lost her husband, she's grieving,

951
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Speaker 13: and she's having an emotional moment with the Vice President

952
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Speaker 13: of the United States. So the fact that she gave

953
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 13: him a hug and people want to create all these

954
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 13: fake narratives is absolutely absurd. And people will take any

955
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Speaker 13: sort of shot at Charlie's legacy. And this is another

956
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Speaker 13: case where all these people got clout for, you know,

957
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 13: commenting on Charlie's death. Now they're trying to go after Erica.

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Speaker 13: It's absolutely disgusting and nothing was inappropriately done whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Well said Alex Stein. Thank you for your time, and

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Speaker 3: that's all the time I've got tonight. I'll see you

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Speaker 3: tomorrow at eleven up. Next, it's Newsnight.