WEBVTT - Sharri | 14 November

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Andrew, good evening, Welcome to the show. Tonight. The

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<v Speaker 2>left in meltdown at Donald Trump's key appointments. Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 2>a hero of the working class, has become enemy number

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<v Speaker 2>one for Democrats and they just can't cope with the

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<v Speaker 2>new attorney general. More on that in a moment Also tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>a leading Israeli politician lashes out at Penny Wong and

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<v Speaker 2>Albanisi over their move to recognize Palestinian sovereignty, and Israel's

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<v Speaker 2>parliamentary speaker also tells me that the normalization agreement between

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<v Speaker 2>Israel and Saudi Arabia could happen in the next two months.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a major exclusive. It's coming up also tonight, how

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<v Speaker 2>the Quantus freebie scandal is still hurting the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big show tonight. We've got Matt Canavan, Kelly Sloane,

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Morrison and jem and Tognini. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about these climate protesters in Melbourne today. Haven't we had

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<v Speaker 2>enough of this disruption? But first tonight, Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 2>now announced key members of his cabinet and administration. They're

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<v Speaker 2>Trump loyalists, will help the president prosecute the policies he

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<v Speaker 2>does now have a mandate fault. Most are excellent choices,

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<v Speaker 2>strong on national security, unapologetic supporters of Western values and Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bold and ambitious team that reflects Trump's landslide win.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's sending the left into meltdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Gabs, Tulci Gabbard, Pete hagskifth do you think that

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<v Speaker 3>they are confirmable at this point? What's the buzz on

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<v Speaker 3>the hill right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, I hope you don't forgive me for

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<v Speaker 4>saying this, Christian, but the general vibe on the Hill

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<v Speaker 4>right now is WTF.

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<v Speaker 5>People are a shock.

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<v Speaker 2>Wals is a Trump loyalist, an election denier, and a

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<v Speaker 2>NATO critic who echoes Trump's skepticism about supporting you.

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<v Speaker 3>But one person has loomed over all of that. His

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<v Speaker 3>name is Elon Musk. Multiple sources tell me tonight that

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<v Speaker 3>Musk has been seen at mar A Lago nearly every

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<v Speaker 3>single day since Donald Trump won co host.

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<v Speaker 6>Of Fox and Friends Weekend, not even like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Weekend. It's fun, isn't it? And yet they will get

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<v Speaker 2>things done. Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami are heading up

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Government Efficiency. The acronyms are doge, which

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk is having some fun with. It's also a

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<v Speaker 2>popular decision. Musk has become somewhat of a hero from

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<v Speaker 2>working class Americans, and in buying X, he's a defender

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<v Speaker 2>of free speech. And having Musk, one of the smartest

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<v Speaker 2>men in the world, in charge of slashing bureaucracy, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it can only be a good thing, and it'll all

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<v Speaker 2>be transparent. Musk set on X that we will also

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<v Speaker 2>have a leaderboard for most insanely dumb spending of your

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<v Speaker 2>tax dollars. This will both be extremely tragic and entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>Now must cut thousands of jobs when he took over Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>but its usage has skyrocketed despite the Left leaving it

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<v Speaker 2>in droves, and he's now been given the task of

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<v Speaker 2>cutting the six point five at trillion dollar annual government spending.

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<v Speaker 2>He also wants to help bring down America's thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>trillion dollar debt. It's an insane amount of money, but

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<v Speaker 2>US debt, like here in Australia, needs to be cut.

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<v Speaker 2>The only downside of it of this all is that

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<v Speaker 2>unemployment will rise as a result, We've seen from almost

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<v Speaker 2>all the job reports under the Biden administration that most

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<v Speaker 2>employment growth comes from the government sector. Now, Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 2>also appears to be playing a key role in advising

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<v Speaker 2>Trump personally. He's reportedly sat in on some of the

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<v Speaker 2>interviews for cabinet spots. He also, as you know, joined

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<v Speaker 2>the call with Zelenski as I said, the left are

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<v Speaker 2>leaving x and even the Guardian announced today that it

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<v Speaker 2>would quit the social media platform, partly in protest at

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk. But no decision has outraged Washington as much

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<v Speaker 2>as Trump's moved to appoint Matt Gates as Attorney General.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a controversial choice, no question, and I'll explain why

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<v Speaker 2>in a moment. But the Democrats brought this on themselves

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<v Speaker 2>when they decided to weaponize the Justice Department, when they

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<v Speaker 2>decided to use lawfare to put their political opponents in

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<v Speaker 2>prison to try take out a candidate in a democratic

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<v Speaker 2>presidential election. Well, how did they expect that the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>would react? How did they expect Trump would react when

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<v Speaker 2>he personally faced the prospect of prison receiving different treatment

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<v Speaker 2>to Joe Biden, even when the ellection crime was exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the same, and we saw that with a classified document's case.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Trump feels the weaponization of the justice system more

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<v Speaker 2>acutely than anyone. Steve Bannon, Pete Navarro. They already went

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<v Speaker 2>to prison. So this explains Trump putting Gates in as

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney General. Now, Gates has plenty of enemies, especially on

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<v Speaker 2>his side of the aisle, but the left are particularly

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<v Speaker 2>fired up about this.

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<v Speaker 7>Have a look, well, Katie, I've gotten two different texts

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<v Speaker 7>from different people at the Justice Department who just use

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<v Speaker 7>the word insane to respond and react to this potential appointment.

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<v Speaker 6>Heads are also exploding at the Justice Department because this

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<v Speaker 6>goes against the kind of candidate, Republican or Democrat, that

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<v Speaker 6>the DOJ sees as an appropriate candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is making everyone's head explode right now.

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<v Speaker 8>We're watching, and I'm sure I'll have a lot more

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<v Speaker 8>opinions on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Gates is so provocative that he makes Trump look diplomatic.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what he's said about women attending abortion rallies.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it seem to see that based off of your comments,

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<v Speaker 4>you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies.

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<v Speaker 2>Are ugly and overweet. Yes, what do you say to

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<v Speaker 2>people who think that those comments are offensive be offended.

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<v Speaker 2>He's often called a fire brown politician and a flamethrower,

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<v Speaker 2>and he'd be America's top lawmaker. But he was also

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<v Speaker 2>the subject of a federal probe into allegations he violated

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<v Speaker 2>sex trafficking laws with paid escorts on a trip to

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<v Speaker 2>the Bahamas. And there's yet another investigation by the House

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<v Speaker 2>Ethics Committee into allegations of sexual misconduct, illicit drug use,

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<v Speaker 2>and misuse of campaign funds. Now nothing has been proven

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<v Speaker 2>and he's denied all of these allegations. Gates has previously

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<v Speaker 2>suggested he could be Attorney General, but he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>joked about it.

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<v Speaker 9>We go take the White House back and you never know,

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<v Speaker 9>David and maybe an Attorney General Mac Gates down the

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<v Speaker 9>road or someone a lie liking who will be there

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<v Speaker 9>to actually enforce the law and provide the accountability not

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<v Speaker 9>just the vision, but the actual accountability. The people that

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<v Speaker 9>are sending you those messages deserve that in a free

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<v Speaker 9>and justin constitutional republic.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was last year, not last week. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>no laughing matter. Now he will be the new attorney general.

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<v Speaker 2>The question is will he end the political law fair

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<v Speaker 2>of the Justice system, or will he seek revenge and

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<v Speaker 2>use the same tactics against the Democrats that they used

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<v Speaker 2>against Team Trump. And if Gates goes for that second option,

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<v Speaker 2>he could relaunch investigations and prosecutions into Hunter Biden, even

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Faunci. It's no wonder Washington is so worried. Now

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<v Speaker 2>another key Trump appointment Fox News host Pete Hegseth. He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the new Secretary of Defense. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the role that Mike Pompeo had been widely tipped for.

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<v Speaker 2>Now heg Seth. He's much younger, but he is a

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<v Speaker 2>two times Bronze Star recipient. He's got twenty years of

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<v Speaker 2>military service. He studied at both Princeton and Harvard. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>in Defense, heg Seth will be making sure that America

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<v Speaker 2>is match fit against an increasingly aggressive China.

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<v Speaker 3>China's building an army specifically dedicated to defeating the United

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<v Speaker 3>States of America.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, as you've already heard, Pete is also more. He

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<v Speaker 2>was also a Fox News host and he was reporting

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<v Speaker 2>live on the US election.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, guys, I've been to a lot of Trump rallies.

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<v Speaker 5>There's Trump rallies and then there's this one.

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<v Speaker 10>So we'll continue to monitor the crowd gets bid.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a couple of months later, he'll be the Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>for Defense. It's an amazing world, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>John Ratcliffe will be the new director of the CIA.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the Director of the Office of National Intelligence

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<v Speaker 2>in the last Trump administration, so he was in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of eighteen intelligence agencies. But he had a key role

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<v Speaker 2>when he was in charge of the intelligence agencies. I

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed him about the origins of COVID and he said

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<v Speaker 2>that all of the top secret intelligence on this topic

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<v Speaker 2>should be declassified.

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<v Speaker 11>The people that had the most access to the most

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<v Speaker 11>intelligence are telling you that the most likely origin of

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<v Speaker 11>COVID nineteen of the Wuhan virus was what happened was

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<v Speaker 11>a lab league at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. There

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<v Speaker 11>is more intelligence out there, and I'd like to see

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<v Speaker 11>it declassified.

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<v Speaker 2>That was from our Sky News Wuhan documentary.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I have high hopes that when he is CIA director,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll do exactly that and declassify the intelligence and hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>we'll find out more information about how the pandemic started

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<v Speaker 2>inside the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Another strong Trump appointment,

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<v Speaker 2>Marco Rubio he'll be the new Secretary of State. He's

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<v Speaker 2>rock solid on China, on Israel, and on foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's what he said about the origins of COVID.

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<v Speaker 8>Start to conclude here that in fact this probably was

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<v Speaker 8>a lab leak accident. Someone got infected. It now has

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<v Speaker 8>spread across the world, and at the talitarian communist government

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<v Speaker 8>in China doesn't want the world to know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's Marco Rubio speaking about Hamas so in Rubio,

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<v Speaker 2>will you conference on the contrary?

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<v Speaker 5>I want you guys to get this.

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<v Speaker 8>I want them to destroy every element of ham Master

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<v Speaker 8>they can get their hands on. These people are vicious

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<v Speaker 8>animals who did horrifying crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Trump announced America's ambassador to Israel as one of

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<v Speaker 2>his earliest appointments. It's a signal that the decision is important,

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship is important. Mike Huckabee, well, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>say he makes me look soft on Israel because have

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<v Speaker 2>a look at what he's had to say about the

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<v Speaker 2>West Bank and settlements.

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<v Speaker 12>I think Israel has titled eat Judea and Samaria. There

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<v Speaker 12>are certain words I refuse to use. There is no

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<v Speaker 12>such thing as a West Bank. It's Judea and Samaria.

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<v Speaker 12>There's no such thing as a settlement their communities, their neighborhoods,

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<v Speaker 12>their cities. There's no such thing as an occupation.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this all comes as Trump met with Biden today

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<v Speaker 2>in the White House, and many have noticed that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the happiest the current president has looked in a

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<v Speaker 2>long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations, thank you, and I'm looking forward to having I.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we said, it's good with transition to everything, we

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<v Speaker 4>can make sure you're accommodated what you need.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps he was one of those quiet Maga voters after all.

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<v Speaker 2>Now on the Middle East, Trump's election night victory and

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<v Speaker 2>strong appointments are already having the desired effect. Iran has

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<v Speaker 2>reportedly backed down, saying it's not going to retaliate a

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<v Speaker 2>gay against Israel. And as we'll hear tonight from the

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<v Speaker 2>speaker of the Israeli Parliament, there's now hopes that Israel's

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<v Speaker 2>normalization agreement with Saudi Arabia could go ahead within weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Both sides are kein to get it back on track.

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<v Speaker 2>It was about to happen before October seven. It's at

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<v Speaker 2>least part of the reason for those Iranian backed terror attacks.

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<v Speaker 2>But I interviewed the speaker, Emir o'hanna. He says it

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<v Speaker 2>could happen before Trump takes office. He explains why I

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<v Speaker 2>have a quick look.

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<v Speaker 13>To achieve a defense treaty between Saudi Arabia and America,

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<v Speaker 13>they will need to get a majority, a wide majority,

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<v Speaker 13>two thirds majority. So that could only happen if some

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<v Speaker 13>of the Republican Party currently sitting in the House and

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<v Speaker 13>all of the Democratic Party will vote for We know

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<v Speaker 13>it's a possibility, but we assume that during President Trump's administration,

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<v Speaker 13>which vis a vis Israel and US relations are expected

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<v Speaker 13>to be the Golden Age, but it would be more

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<v Speaker 13>tough to bring two thirds of the House. So we

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<v Speaker 13>hope we can achieve it as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big exclusive. That full interview coming up. But

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<v Speaker 2>if Israel and the United States can pull off normalizing

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<v Speaker 2>relations with Saudi Arabia and potentially other Arab nations, well

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<v Speaker 2>this is the best pathway to peace for Israel. This

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<v Speaker 2>should be news that the Democrats and the mainstream media

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<v Speaker 2>are welcoming. Instead we're just seeing a meltdown at the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump effect. Okay, a lot to come on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's bring in now national senator Matt Canavan and commentator

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Morrison. Greatt you both. Matt. I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>your reaction to Trump's appointments. I know you follow them

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<v Speaker 2>more closely. What do you think of his key pick

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<v Speaker 2>so far?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, definitely shaking things up, Shahi, and I think you've

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<v Speaker 14>summed it up well. When you set off a whirlwind,

0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.480
<v Speaker 14>you know it's going to come back at you, and

0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.480
<v Speaker 14>that's what's happened here. I think, Look, I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 14>give everybody a go. I think there's obviously a big

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<v Speaker 14>mess to clean up over there. It's been a shocking

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<v Speaker 14>four years in the United States on the economic front,

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<v Speaker 14>on the geopolitical front, and yes, on the lawfare front

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<v Speaker 14>as well. I've spoken in Parliament myself how I am

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<v Speaker 14>very sad and to see what are in effect political

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<v Speaker 14>prisoners in the US and the likes of Petere Navarro

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<v Speaker 14>at Steve Bannon, who were fortunately now released from jail.

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<v Speaker 14>Certainly many of the people that went away for walking

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<v Speaker 14>through the Capitol Building on January sixth seem hard to

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<v Speaker 14>explain too. There were some that were engaged aged in

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<v Speaker 14>violent and destructive conduct, and they seemingly deserved to be sanctioned,

0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.040
<v Speaker 14>but others just seemingly walked in and you've got grandmas

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<v Speaker 14>and others being chased down rated locked up. It's just remarkable.

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<v Speaker 14>So I'm able to give all of these guys a

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<v Speaker 14>go to clean up this mess. So I hope it

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<v Speaker 14>doesn't end up in a spiral of political tit for

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<v Speaker 14>tat in the United States, because we need a stable

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<v Speaker 14>United States is a strong partner in our region. Let's

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<v Speaker 14>hope they can clean it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jason, there will be the temptation to seek revenge

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<v Speaker 2>through the courts and some of their political enemies, and

0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.720
<v Speaker 2>you know where it's justified, show where there's a strong

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<v Speaker 2>case for it. But if not, wouldn't it be more

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<v Speaker 2>sensible to try remove politics from the justice system like

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>Yea, yeah, yeah, something that Americans would be shocked that

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<v Speaker 4>someone wouldn't go into politics for revenge.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think there's necessarily.

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<v Speaker 4>A track record in Trump's history to date the shows

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<v Speaker 4>that he goes in to square up scores in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>as much as you should, because God, they went after him.

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<v Speaker 4>The temptation will be there, and probably people in the

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<v Speaker 4>administration will be saying, go do it. But you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to hit a reset button, because people voted for a

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<v Speaker 4>reset button.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that's what's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>About these selections is that we didn't vote for the

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<v Speaker 4>same old in America. If I can use the collective

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<v Speaker 4>we people over there, they voted for a change. They

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<v Speaker 4>voted for a different way. It was in all the ads,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, vote for President Trump for a different way,

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<v Speaker 4>a different approach. A different way is not doing what

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<v Speaker 4>everyone's always done.

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<v Speaker 5>And as much as it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Really easy for you know, a lot of the clowns

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<v Speaker 4>that you just showed in those clips there that were

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<v Speaker 4>criticizing Trump's decisions and his appointments, the American people wanted

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<v Speaker 4>that reset button hit, and they wanted patriots, and they

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<v Speaker 4>wanted people who actually were prepared.

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<v Speaker 5>To challenge the assumptions to come back. So, you know, to.

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<v Speaker 4>Answer your question specifically, I really hope that they don't

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<v Speaker 4>go and seek revenge, but gee, it must be tempting.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they did everything to that guy, right down

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<v Speaker 4>to extra judicial powers beyond the criminal and then got

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<v Speaker 4>the assassination.

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<v Speaker 5>Who will ever know the truth about what that was about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, indeed said one more thing too.

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<v Speaker 14>These appointments also to my mind, show up the limits

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<v Speaker 14>of the Albanezi government's diplomatica outreach. From reports, it would

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<v Speaker 14>seem that their outreach the Trump campaign amounted to meeting

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<v Speaker 14>with Mike Pompeo etly about twelve months ago, and he's

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<v Speaker 14>missed out of course, And that's not making any commentary

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<v Speaker 14>on Mike, but it was clear to anybody watching this

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<v Speaker 14>that there was a very strong chance at Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 14>next term, if there were to be a next term

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<v Speaker 14>at the time, would be very different from the first term.

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<v Speaker 14>He could he could staff his organization with very different people.

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<v Speaker 14>We've got the likes of Tulsa Gabbart to form a

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<v Speaker 14>Democrat today announced as well. And it would seem that

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<v Speaker 14>Penny Wong and Anthony Alberinezi have been been found completely

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<v Speaker 14>flat footed here and just simply haven't done the groundwork

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<v Speaker 14>to build relationships with this different element of the Trump world,

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<v Speaker 14>and that's possibly going to cost hums in a long.

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<v Speaker 2>Term as a compry. And exactly not only haven't they

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<v Speaker 2>built the relationships, but we're seeing Elon Musk appear as

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most influential figures so far with Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump himself and Albinizi has gone out of his way

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<v Speaker 2>to smash Elon Musk. I mean he's held prefer press

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<v Speaker 2>conferences about Elon Musk. So you know, none of this

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<v Speaker 2>is a good sign. And you look at them, they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be I've I've made a lot of comments about this,

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<v Speaker 2>but you couldn't get two different people, two different values

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<v Speaker 2>or ideology, ideologies or policies. Then we will see under

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<v Speaker 2>under Donald Trump, then, albin EZI we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin right now for two weeks. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>get too stuck into the weeds again. But Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 2>did comment about this today and he said that, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if Albaneze has to dismiss Kevin rd over, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his many insults over several years, well then he may

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<v Speaker 2>also have to fire Penny and even himself. Have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at what Dudden had to say.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I guess the difficulty that the Prime Minister's in

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<v Speaker 10>at the moment is that if he sacks Kevin Rudd,

0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.040
<v Speaker 10>then what does he do with Penny Wong? And if

0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.360
<v Speaker 10>he sacks Penny Wong, what does he do given he's

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<v Speaker 10>made his own disparaging remarks about President Elect Trump as well.

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<v Speaker 10>And look that these are issues for the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course there was Chris Bowen. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>I reported this the other night that Trump was the

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<v Speaker 2>worst president in the United States history. I mean, Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutten has a point. The entire government has lashed

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<v Speaker 2>out at Trump, which.

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<v Speaker 5>Is why they can't sack him. They can't sack Rudd.

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<v Speaker 4>Right has to do, if it's possible, a classy thing,

0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.040
<v Speaker 4>if it's possible, and that is to recognize that his

0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:51.360
<v Speaker 4>nation's needs outweigh his own ambitions and perhaps just show

0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.479
<v Speaker 4>us that you're bigger than Jess your ego, Kevin and

0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.360
<v Speaker 4>step aside and step back. I mean, I saw reports

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<v Speaker 4>on Sky today that they've been reaching to Scott Morris

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<v Speaker 4>and to ask Scott Morrison for assistance. Well, I mean

0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.400
<v Speaker 4>there's a novel idea someone who actually does have contacts

0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:11.320
<v Speaker 4>with the Trump administration that was about yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's it is. It is remarkable that you've

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<v Speaker 4>got these resources and let's call them that for a second.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because people will obviously have a political view

0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 4>about whether Scott Morrison can work with the government whatever else.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, fundamentally, you would hope people who are ambassadors

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<v Speaker 4>for the country.

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<v Speaker 5>Are patriots not partisans.

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<v Speaker 4>You would hope that they would be doing the best

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<v Speaker 4>thing in the best interest for the country. And I

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<v Speaker 4>would hope that the Australian government right now could look

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<v Speaker 4>and say, yeah, Okay, Scott Morrison, we might have defeated

0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.200
<v Speaker 4>him in et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, but he's got

0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:43.240
<v Speaker 4>an in with with Trump and he's got an in

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.960
<v Speaker 4>with people over there, and this is what we should

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<v Speaker 4>be doing. And it amazes me that we're two weeks

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<v Speaker 4>down the track and we're still waiting for Kevin to

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<v Speaker 4>do something that's good for the nation.

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<v Speaker 5>On this phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I broke that story that they would draft

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<v Speaker 2>that Kevin rud was drafting in Scomo on Tuesday nights. So,

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<v Speaker 2>but Matt, isn't that embarrassing that the Albanezi government has

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<v Speaker 2>to appeal to Scott Morrison's best interests to try and

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<v Speaker 2>help them forge ties with the Trump administration given how

0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:18.400
<v Speaker 2>hard they went after Scott Morrison, personally blaming him effectively

0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.920
<v Speaker 2>for Britney Higgins rape.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, look, Charie, is it is embarrassing for the Albanezi

0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:29.960
<v Speaker 14>government that they've been caught out like this unprepared, unexpected.

0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:33.240
<v Speaker 14>They should have expected it. It's not the first time

0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:36.040
<v Speaker 14>they've been in this sort of situation. But look at

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<v Speaker 14>the same time, in this situation, I think you've got

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<v Speaker 14>to put any sort of self reflections aside and do

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<v Speaker 14>what's best for the country. And so what is best

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<v Speaker 14>for the country was best for Australia is that we

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<v Speaker 14>work together to re establish what is now a rocky

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:56.000
<v Speaker 14>relationship with the United States because of the unwise and

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 14>personal insults from very senior Albanezi government ministers. So I've

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:01.239
<v Speaker 14>said on your show before I said it. I think

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<v Speaker 14>I said it when Steve Bannon came out and criticized

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<v Speaker 14>Kevin running yeargo, I'm happy to help no one's but

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<v Speaker 14>no one's reached out. I mean, they seem to have

0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.879
<v Speaker 14>reached out with Scott Morrison, but I actually think maybe

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<v Speaker 14>there's a need here for Anthony Albernezi to convene across

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 14>party delegation over to the over to d C where

0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:18.159
<v Speaker 14>some of us that might be able to open a

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<v Speaker 14>few doors, and some of us like you and I

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 14>Sharow who've been on the war room, who spoke to

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:25.400
<v Speaker 14>Steve ban I mean when I went on the war

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<v Speaker 14>room shower. I had senators that that fool Senator Tim

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<v Speaker 14>Ayres get up and just pants Steve Banner and E's

0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 14>tin fall hat wearing all this rubbish. I mean, all

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 14>that's on the record. You know, I try and limit

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<v Speaker 14>my credit, you know, crats in the US. I'd be

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<v Speaker 14>very diplomatic about it because of course, you know, you

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:43.920
<v Speaker 14>never know what you're going to get, so I think,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, they need to reach out across the aisle.

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<v Speaker 14>They might be embarrassed about it, but we've got to

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<v Speaker 14>put Australia first.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a senior journalist at the Australian newspaper who said

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't coming on my program again because I had

0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 2>interviewed Steve Bannett, and you know, I think that's just

0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:01.879
<v Speaker 2>such a misunderstanding. But that shows the addage of labor

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 2>leaning journalists and politicians towards the Trump administration and the

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Team Trump, because you know, as a journalist you deal

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 2>with everybody you and as politicians you need to forge

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:16.119
<v Speaker 2>ties with everybody as well. Otherwise you're left in a

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 2>position like this where Kevin Right and the Albanezy government,

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, don't know if they're going to be able

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 2>to have Australia be exempt from those ten percent tariffs.

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:28.120
<v Speaker 2>This is that's an issue that affects businesses, families, farmers

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 2>across the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, just before we go with well, that's senior journalists

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<v Speaker 4>from the Australian go on the ABC.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that'll be an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he does all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>I know which one's doing more damage to the country

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 5>than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let's talk about this superannuation story. It's been big

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 2>news front page now for two days in a row.

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 2>The Corporate watchdog says the shocking treatment of vulnerable customers

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 2>from super funds is a systemic failure. So ASK is

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<v Speaker 2>now vowing to protect Australians over the next twelve months.

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>It's lawn regulatory intervention, cracking down on exploitative behavior. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what they said.

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<v Speaker 15>I think it's fair to say that we do think

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.400
<v Speaker 15>this is a broader industry issue. So we are at

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:17.439
<v Speaker 15>the moment doing a deep dive surveillance of superannuation trustees

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 15>handling of death benefits claims. More broadly, we are going

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 15>to be writing to the CEOs of superannuation trustees shortly

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 15>to really put them on notice as to what we

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 15>are seeing and our concerns about that. We're going to

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 15>be putting out a detailed report early in the new

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 15>year that really sets out the work that we are doing,

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 15>and we may well have further enforcement action to follow.

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 2>So Jason the regulator took sabuster Coot on Tuesday over

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty million dollars O to members. A lot of labor

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 2>links here as well. This is a big story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, don't you just travel When you hear our six speak,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they're just in there fighting these institutions. I

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.640
<v Speaker 4>think a lot of the time, you know, a lot

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 4>of arms of government forget they are there for the people,

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 4>not for the institutions.

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<v Speaker 5>And when I hear the kind of way in which.

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<v Speaker 4>This is enforced and the speed in which it happens,

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 4>when you think that, you know, we chuck ten percent

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 4>of our pay more than that now into super every week,

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 4>every fortnight, and we pay these insurance policies and we

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 4>expect that they will be there, and that most people

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 4>have no idea how much they're super Fund is just

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 4>waiting to f them over in the event that they

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<v Speaker 4>ever need.

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<v Speaker 5>To call on it.

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<v Speaker 4>It is staggering and it amazes me that you know,

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 4>these agencies just sort of waffle on like this is

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<v Speaker 4>just something that can happen at.

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<v Speaker 5>The pace of reform actually action it needs.

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<v Speaker 4>There are people sitting there dying for this money, quite

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<v Speaker 4>literally dying for the money, and they can't get their

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<v Speaker 4>hands on their super It's.

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<v Speaker 2>A major scandal. Jason Morrison, Matt Canavan, thank you both

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<v Speaker 2>very much. Now let's get back to our top story,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's key picks for his cabinet for his administration.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm joined now by National Review columnist John Fund.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in Washington, DC as we speak. John, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>your time. Look what's your read on Trump's cabinet and

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<v Speaker 2>particularly the most controversial appointment today in Matt Gates.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the cabinet picks have been very good

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<v Speaker 1>until yesterday, and they were met with general surprise that

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Trump had picked qualified people who had respect by their

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>peers in their field. The latest picks, though, are bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>I referring to the Secretary of Defense, the designators Pete Higsith,

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<v Speaker 1>a Fox News commentator and military veteran, and then Matt Gates,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a firebrand congressman from Florida. I know both

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<v Speaker 1>of them personally, very friendly sorts, but they're not suited

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<v Speaker 1>for purpose. Gates, it has just been revealed, has resigned

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>from Congress in order to avoid the publication of a

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>damning ethics report regarding his personal life, possible as a

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:17.959
<v Speaker 1>drug use, possible conflicts of interest. And it strikes me

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<v Speaker 1>that this would be the first time that someone has

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<v Speaker 1>been appointed Attorney General who until very recently has been

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>under active investigation by the Justice Department that he is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to lead. It strikes me that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>colossal error. It will not stand. Matt Gates is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be confirmed, and in fact, I suspect that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be forced to withdraw.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fascinating. So when you say you don't think you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be confirmed, do you think there are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>senior Republicans who oppose this?

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<v Speaker 1>There already are. They may not have announced publicly, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know of at least one Republican who is not

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<v Speaker 1>a moderate, who has said this is not happening. And remember,

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans do have a majority in the new Senate

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<v Speaker 1>of fifty three to forty seven. But that means if

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<v Speaker 1>for Republican senators and there will be no Democrats supporting

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Matt Gates. If four Republican senators say this is too

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<v Speaker 1>much for us to bear, Matt Gates is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be confirmed.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if there are Republicans who absolutely despise him, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've already said tonight he definitely has his enemies. You know,

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 2>he led that coup about was it a year ago?

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<v Speaker 2>But even if that's the case, surely they would say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has a mandate here, this is Trump's pick, will

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<v Speaker 2>go with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you look back through American history, I think

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>almost every president has had at least one cabinet choice

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that ended up on the reef. The rocks and sank.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of anyone that would be an exception.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think almost all of Trump's picks are going

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<v Speaker 1>to go through. But if you follow historical president someone

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>is going to be left behind.

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<v Speaker 2>I've also noticed that it's a very young habnet, a

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 2>lot of people in their early forties. I mean, do

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<v Speaker 2>you think this is a good thing to have that

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>generational change come through, because mostly so far it's been

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a lot of I don't want to say elderly, but

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>older people in very senior roles under the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I wouldn't say elderly. I would say in some

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>cases perhaps senile.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, we'd agree with you there.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the greatest generation that fought World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>What we had in power until very recently in Washington

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<v Speaker 1>were the Boomers, and the Boomers have not covered themselves

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>in glory as a generation. And yet we had Nancy Pelosi,

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>we had Bernie Sanders, we had Donald Trump, we had

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden, we had Mitch McConnell, and all of them

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>were past their shelf by date easily.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw those pictures today of Trump going to the

0:29:56.120 --> 0:30:00.479
<v Speaker 2>White House sitting down with Joe Biden and Missus Biden.

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Millenia didn't attend. You know, a lot of people have

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 2>commented on just how kind of happy Joe Biden looked.

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>He was smiling, he was relaxed. Do you think, and

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<v Speaker 2>we've heard the reports as well that the Biden camp

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 2>and the Kamala Harris camp there were a lot of

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>tensions in the final weeks of the campaigns. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think Biden was silently rejoicing that Trump won.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go that far, but notice that you have

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>footage of Donald Trump meeting with Joe Biden, where is

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the footage of the last meeting between Kamala Harris and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden. It's not to be found. Look, Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>cannot help but resent the fact that he thought he

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>was the only Democrat who could beat Donald Trump. He

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>had been the only Democrat whoever defeated Donald Trump, and

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>he was cast aside by his own party in favor

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of his vice president. He must view that as a

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>disloyal act of some kind, and he was basically ignored

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and shunted aside of the campaign trail. And I can

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>understand the reasons why. For all, Joe Biden me that

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>infamous garbage continent, which I think certainly would have hurt

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris. I think he leaves with very mixed feelings,

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>but probably relief, because all you have to do is

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>look at Joe Biden and realize that it must be

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>a taxing, tiring time to be president. Right now for all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, John find and great to have you with us

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>from Washington. Thank you now still to come. Albanezi has

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 2>gone down in the estimation of more than a third

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>of Australians after the Quantus upgrade scandal. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>speak about this with Kelly Sloan and Jemma Tognini plus

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<v Speaker 2>our major exclusive, A senior Israeli politician reveals the push

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 2>for the Saudi deal to go ahead while Biden is president.

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<v Speaker 2>He also lashes the Albanzi government over their move today

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<v Speaker 2>to recognize Palestinian sovereignty. Huge show, don't go anywhere, welcome back. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albinizi and Penny Wong have changed Australia's vote at

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<v Speaker 2>the United Nations to recognize the permanent sovereignty of Palestinian territories. Now,

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 2>this is completely out of step with both the Biden

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>and the incoming Trump administrations on Israel. But this is

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 2>also a major betrayal to Israel and there is no

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 2>reason for Australia to do this. There have been no

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 2>moves by any Palestinian leadership to return the one one

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>hundred and one hostages who have been held captive for

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 2>over four hundred days, including a baby and his four

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 2>year old brother, Baby Kafir. They haven't agreed to any

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>of the numerous cease fire deals that Israel has sat

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>down with. They haven't agreed to lay down their weapons.

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<v Speaker 2>So who exactly does Penny Wog want to lead? The Palestinians.

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<v Speaker 2>Humus is this who she wants to give recognition to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's utter nonsense, it's illogical. Former Foreign Minister Alexander down

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<v Speaker 2>I had some advice for her on Chris Kenny Show

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<v Speaker 2>a little earlier.

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<v Speaker 16>If I were in government today, therefore, I could give

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 16>a bit of advice to Penny Wong and the Labor government,

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<v Speaker 16>I would think about drafting a resolution which demanded that

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<v Speaker 16>Hamas hand over the one hundred or so hostages that

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<v Speaker 16>they're still holding and sees a tax on Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>He's completely right. This move by the Albanezi government is

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<v Speaker 2>pure politics. It's just about the marginal seats they want

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>to win over. It's got nothing to do with peace.

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<v Speaker 2>It only rewards the terrorism of October seven. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>spoke with a senior Israeli politician about this a little earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaker of the King, I said, Emir Khana, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>very much for coming on the program.

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<v Speaker 13>Good evening, Sheriff from the eternal capital of the Jewish people.

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<v Speaker 13>Good to be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your reaction to the breaking news today that the

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Albanezy government here in Australia has changed its position to

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 2>recognize Palestinian sovereignty at the United Nations.

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<v Speaker 13>It is very unfortunate in counterproductive. I hosted recently another

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 13>foreign minister and he told me that they considered to

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 13>recognize the Palacey in the state as well. I told him,

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 13>it is a great idea if you want to reward

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 13>Harmas for the autrocities of October seventh. It is the

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 13>perfect idea if you want to send a clear message

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 13>to the entire terrorist organizations throughout the world that this

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.439
<v Speaker 13>is how to get the job done and to get

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 13>their goals. Of course, the debate over the two so

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:46.280
<v Speaker 13>called two state solutions was a very live debate before

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 13>October seventh. Following October seventh, and as long as we

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 13>have our one hundred and one hostages still held in

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 13>captivity by Hamas, as long as we have tens of

0:34:56.160 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 13>thousands of displaced civilians threatened by his Bala and others organizations,

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 13>it is a non debate here in Israel. It's very

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 13>clear that it will only reward Hamas for the atrocities,

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 13>which is unthinkable. So I hope that this notion, this

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 13>idea will soon get off the table.

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 2>It's not even clear who would lead the Palestinian TERRITORIESSM

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 2>and it can't be Hamas, that's for shore. If the

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 2>international community were actually serious about peace, they might put

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>forward emotion of resolution that would demand the return of

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 2>the hostages. But you know, it doesn't seem like they're

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>as serious about peace as they are about rewarding terrorism.

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 2>O Hannah.

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<v Speaker 13>Indeed, indeed, unfortunately, we see a vast majority amongst the

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 13>Palestinian people supporting Hamas and supporting October seventh atrocities, and

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:57.720
<v Speaker 13>it goes bored to board, you know, to both sides

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 13>of the Aisle plo Fata and the Hamas. Unfortunately this

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 13>is the case, and this is what we have to

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 13>live with. But we will fight. We will continue to

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 13>fight until we return safety and security to the entire

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 13>civilians of Israel. Let me remind you that on October six,

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 13>children were sleeping in their beds in Gaza peacefully. No

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.720
<v Speaker 13>one was after them, No one was after the people

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 13>of Gaza. And unfortunately Hamas broke that silence on October seventh.

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 13>And now we don't have the luxury to follow in

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 13>grief and pain. We need to fight, That's what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Israel and Saudi Arabia were close to normalizing relations prior

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 2>to October seven. Many say this is part of the

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 2>reason that Iran encouraged the attacks by Hamas. When I

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 2>met with your Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yahoo, he said,

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 2>and he used the word determined. He said, he was

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 2>determined to get this done, this deal with Saudi Arabia

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>as a pathway to peace. Are you hopeful that this

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 2>could happen while Joe Biden is still president?

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<v Speaker 13>Absolutely. Let me tell you, I think that the Iran

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 13>is not only Israel's enemy, or rather, should we be

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 13>more precise, the Iyetola regime of Iran. It's not the

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 13>Iranian people, but they are enemies of peace. We were

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 13>on the verge, as you said, of expanding the circle

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 13>of peace. I was fortunate enough to be a minister

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.439
<v Speaker 13>in the government that signed the Abraham Accords with the

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 13>first Trump administration and four Arab countries, one of which

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:36.800
<v Speaker 13>is the country where both my parents were born and raised, Morocco.

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 13>I was hosted by my counterpart, the Moroccan head of Parliament,

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:45.280
<v Speaker 13>and that was a very significant thing. And we were

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.280
<v Speaker 13>on the verge of expanding the circle of peace even further,

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 13>which from US was trying to stop on October seventh.

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 13>But as you said, Prime Minister, and the State of

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 13>Israel is very determined to expand the circle of peace.

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 13>How the Arab is definitely one of the most maybe

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 13>the most important country in the Arab world, So it's

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 13>a goal worth achieving.

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<v Speaker 2>Just in terms of the timing, how soon could this happen.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, to achieve a defense treaty between Saudi Arabia and America,

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 13>they will need to get a majority, a wide majority,

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 13>two thirds majority. So that could only happen if some

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 13>of the Republican Party currently city in the House and

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 13>all of the Democratic Party will vote for We know

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 13>it's a possibility, but we assume that during President Trump's administration,

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 13>which vis a vis Israel and US relations are expected

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 13>to be the Golden Age, but it will be more

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 13>tough to bring two thirds of the House. So we

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 13>hope we can achieve it as soon as possible. But

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 13>let me tell you that even if there will not

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 13>be a peace treaty between Saudi Arabia and America, I

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 13>think we can reach understandings that could be very fruitful

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 13>and bring us closer together, even to a normalization and

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 13>a peace agreement.

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:29.760
<v Speaker 2>But if there was to be a formal peace treaty

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:33.439
<v Speaker 2>if it was to go through the United States, as

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you just outlined. Do are you hopeful that this could

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 2>happen in the next two months before Trump's inauguration.

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 13>We hope it will happen as soon as possible, as

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 13>as you said, we hoped it could happen more than

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 13>a year ago. But we will never stop aspire for

0:39:55.920 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 13>peace and extend our hands in peace to our entire

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 13>neighborhood as we have done in the past. And we

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<v Speaker 13>believe that, and I think that President Trump believes and

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<v Speaker 13>understand that peace could come from strength from power, and

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<v Speaker 13>this is what we are doing currently.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'd love to get your reaction to some of

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's key appointments so far. Mike hackeyby Elise Stephanick. Given

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<v Speaker 2>we saw that Joy Biden did threaten to withhold weapons

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<v Speaker 2>from Israel, and there were other ultimatums in recent times

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<v Speaker 2>as well, is this a positive sign the appointments of

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<v Speaker 2>Mike hockeyby in particular, of how the Trump administration is

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<v Speaker 2>planning to cooperate with Israel.

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<v Speaker 13>Absolutely, when I see the team that the Green Team,

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<v Speaker 13>if I may say so, that doesn't Tromp assembles. Now,

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<v Speaker 13>these are the America relations. These are great friends of

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<v Speaker 13>Israel throughout the years. I hosted the Elise recently and

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<v Speaker 13>I congratulated her for or appointee as ambassador in the UN.

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<v Speaker 13>And I'm looking forward to work with those great people,

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<v Speaker 13>those great friends of the State of Israel. And i

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<v Speaker 13>do believe that we are about to experience the golden

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<v Speaker 13>age of US is relations.

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<v Speaker 2>The golden age. Well, let's hope that will be the case,

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<v Speaker 2>because Israel certainly needs friends on the international stage. At

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<v Speaker 2>the moment. We're hearing, and it is just media reports,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're hearing media reports today that Tehran may have

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<v Speaker 2>decided not to retaliate against Israel after pressure from the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, perhaps because of Donald Trump as incoming president.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you hopeful that Iran might not retaliate again? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you hopeful that these media reports will be accurate.

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<v Speaker 13>We have shown the Iotola regim of Iran that we

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<v Speaker 13>can act on Iranian soil and put down a decisive

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<v Speaker 13>reaction to their texts upon us. If they will do

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<v Speaker 13>a mistake in harm Israeli once again and shure that

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<v Speaker 13>Israeli they're going to get another decisive reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, emir Ocanna, pleasure to have you on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you, Sherry.

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<v Speaker 2>And after the break, climate protest chaos, extinction rebellion activists

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<v Speaker 2>block Melbourne roads causing mayhem. Kelly soon and Jema Tognini

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<v Speaker 2>will join me next. Welcome back. Well, let's have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at the climate protests today in Melbourne because they

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<v Speaker 2>shut down traffic. We've seen that university students couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>to their exams or they were late. It was absolute mayhem.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's have a look. Okay, so this is activists, Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>yet again choosing the most disruptive time to commuters, to families,

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<v Speaker 2>people trying to get to work, get their kids to school.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this doesn't win anyone over.

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<v Speaker 17>Most people have zero sympathy for this kind of behavior.

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<v Speaker 17>People stopping people going to their exams, stopping people going

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<v Speaker 17>to work. It reminds me a lot of the Rising

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<v Speaker 17>Tide protesters that are stationed at Newcastle Port of Newcastle

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<v Speaker 17>at the moment doing exactly the same, who've been prohibited

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<v Speaker 17>from doing their protest by the Supreme Court. Yet today

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<v Speaker 17>the new South Wales Health Minister is quoted as saying, well,

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<v Speaker 17>if they're doing nothing wrong, then happy days. So we're

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<v Speaker 17>sending mixed messages to these people. They're idiots and they

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<v Speaker 17>should stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a terrible mixed message. What do you think, Jemma.

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<v Speaker 18>I think Australia is sick of them. I think people

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<v Speaker 18>are sick of them. We know in Melbourne recently a

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<v Speaker 18>judge overturned a softer center couple for an extended period

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<v Speaker 18>of time in jail.

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<v Speaker 5>More of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, this is the.

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<v Speaker 18>Small squeaky wheel, crying emergency, crying wolf and trying to

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<v Speaker 18>impose this wild sort of climate cold, you know, propaganda

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<v Speaker 18>on the rest of us. And think about the people who,

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<v Speaker 18>as he said, university students can't go to their exams.

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<v Speaker 18>In the most extreme cases, people can't get to hospitals.

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<v Speaker 2>Parents got to get to the birth of their children.

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<v Speaker 18>A woman gave birth on the Balty Bridge. I think

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<v Speaker 18>it was protest before enough enough of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the economic impact as well. You think at

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<v Speaker 2>some point the government should be able to move people

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<v Speaker 2>on and say this is the spot where you can protest,

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<v Speaker 2>but not shutting down traffic. Now we've seen we all

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<v Speaker 2>saw the Quantus freebie scandal. We all know that it

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<v Speaker 2>was not a good look for the prime minister. Now

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 2>surveys back that up thirty seven percent. Australians now have

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<v Speaker 2>a more negative opinion of alban Easy over all of this, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the perception is cementing that he likes the

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<v Speaker 2>high life, is in it for the perks. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's that double standard.

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<v Speaker 17>He portrays himself as the working class prime minister, the

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<v Speaker 17>guy that got brought up by a single mom, and

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<v Speaker 17>then he, on the other hand, buys a beach house

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<v Speaker 17>in the eve of an election, but also then equivocate

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<v Speaker 17>so over whether he did or did not ring Alan

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<v Speaker 17>Joyce took him six days, right, So people say, you

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<v Speaker 17>know what you don't I don't know that I trust

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<v Speaker 17>what you're saying. And that's the problem. It's a trust deficit.

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<v Speaker 17>So most people are reasonable. Thirty six percent said, look,

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<v Speaker 17>if politicians get a flight up grade, fine, I'm twenty

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 17>five percent they said they should have it for business

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<v Speaker 17>or for pleasure. So most people are quite reasonable. What

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<v Speaker 17>they don't trust is equivocation, people that take too long

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<v Speaker 17>to get to the truth. You know, if I had

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 17>picked up the phone to someone like Alan Joyce to

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<v Speaker 17>get a flight up date, upgrade, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I never had. I would remember it one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd remember and jammer in a cost of living crisis

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Not a good look. Well it's a terrible look.

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<v Speaker 18>But it's also the extension of exactly what Kelly said.

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<v Speaker 18>It's about saying we all need to pull out our

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<v Speaker 18>belts in, we all need to reduce our emissions, we

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<v Speaker 18>all need to do.

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<v Speaker 17>X y Z.

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<v Speaker 18>But by the way, we're going to fight climate change

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<v Speaker 18>over a glass of Margaret RIVERSHARDI at the pointy end

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<v Speaker 18>of the plane because our mates about Joyce and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the delay.

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<v Speaker 18>It was it was the run around and just the

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<v Speaker 18>lack of trust and authenticity against a prime minister who.

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<v Speaker 2>Loves the tennis, he loves the box here is at

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<v Speaker 2>the latest folk festival.

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<v Speaker 18>He is literally the duty likes to party his way

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<v Speaker 18>through government. Meanwhile, there are all of these pressing issues

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 18>that just seem to fall by the wayside.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly, in New South Wales, you're the state of the

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<v Speaker 2>shadow health minister. We've seen the nurses go on strike

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<v Speaker 2>this week demanding a fifteen percent pay rise. At least

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<v Speaker 2>that was their initial demand. Look, we understand nurses need

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<v Speaker 2>to be well paid, but you know already hospitals are

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<v Speaker 2>shot staff. This is a very difficult situation. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a problem.

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<v Speaker 17>It's a huge mess and it feels like an intractable

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<v Speaker 17>dispute between Labor you promise so much in the lead

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<v Speaker 17>up to the election, and the nurses' union who were

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<v Speaker 17>feeling betrayed.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have a.

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<v Speaker 17>Situation where the nurses are saying we're not backing down,

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<v Speaker 17>and in fact they're flouting the Industrial Commissions rules not

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<v Speaker 17>to strike. You have Labour saying we've got no more money.

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<v Speaker 17>So how do you fix it? I don't know the solution.

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<v Speaker 17>Labour's saying to the nurses, you we can't pay you

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<v Speaker 17>more because we're going to invest in more nurses. Nurses

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<v Speaker 17>are saying that's an impossible choice. And in the midst

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<v Speaker 17>of this we've got a protests by the CFMU industrial election,

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<v Speaker 17>by the Electrical Trades Union, rail unions stopping It is

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 17>chaos in New South Wales and it's a problem of

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<v Speaker 17>Labour's making.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially because the unions very quickly Gemma expect pay

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<v Speaker 2>rises from labor.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, of course they do, because this is the Labor

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 18>Party is a union party. This is that's where the

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<v Speaker 18>votes come from, that's where the caucuses come from, That's

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<v Speaker 18>where the deals are done. So it makes absolutely perfect

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 18>sense that there is a time to pay the piper.

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<v Speaker 18>In Italian we said Kipaga, who's paying. It's the unions

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<v Speaker 18>Labor party is paying you and I are paying. Because

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<v Speaker 18>this is the way the power structure works in the

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<v Speaker 18>political left in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Gemma Tonianni Kelly Sloan's so great to have you

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<v Speaker 2>bank shore me all right after the break, Just a

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<v Speaker 2>final thought, stay tuned. Well. Last night I wasn't here

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 2>because I was attending my company's journalism awards and my

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 2>colleague at The Australian, Yanni Bashan, he won the main

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 2>award in honor of Sir Keith Murdoch. Lachlan Murdock presented

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.399
<v Speaker 2>him with this prestigious award, and right after October seven,

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Yanni flew to Israel. He even went into Gaza. He

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>was so courageous. But what I want to say, and

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel this strongly but I don't say it enough,

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 2>is that there's only one media company around the world

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:41.879
<v Speaker 2>that has had unwavering moral clarity since October seven. You've

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 2>been watching Sky News and you've seen the clear eyed

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 2>reports from Chris Kenny, Caroline Marcus, Peter Credlin, Andrew Bolt,

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Aeron Moland, James McPherson and so many more. The commentators

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 2>here as well, And given we've had such abysmal political leadership,

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I just have to say thank God for NewsCorp for

0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Sky News and the news cop papers around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>To all my colleagues, a huge thank you for standing

0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 2>by our side as we fight anti Semitism. That's it

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I'll see you Monday at eight. And here's

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Murray