1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: The alleged ring leaders of one of Australia's largest pump 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: and dump schemes are charged with market rigging. The Fair 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Work Commission to have a look at rules around part 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: time employment, and Paris locks down ahead of the Olympics. 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed. Daily business news for people 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: who make their own decisions. It is Wednesday, the twenty 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: fourth of July twenty twenty four. I'm Michael Thompson and 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: good morning, Sean Aylmer. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: Good morning Michael, Sean. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Coming up after the show, you have an interview with 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Bruce Walpy, senior fellow at the United States Study Center. 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, Bruce is talking to us about what's going 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: on in US politics and expert in the area. A 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: bit of a Democrat too, so he is kind of 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: excited that Carmla Harris has taken the job over Joe Biden, 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: but he's got a warning. Mean, Carmla Harris getting the 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: gig running for president doesn't mean she's going to win it. 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: So we talked to Bruce about exactly what's going on 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: in US politics right now. 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: And he knows this space so well it is worth 21 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: seeking around for. It's up later on the main story 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: this morning, though Sean four alleged ring leaders of one 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: of the country's largest pump and dump schemes have been 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: charged with conspiracy to commit market rigging and false training. 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: This is this is Wolf of Wall Street type stuff, 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: isn't it? 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: Yes, it sure is. 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: The four were charged in Downing Center Local Court in 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: Sydney yesterday. There also charged with dealing with the proceeds 30 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: of crime in relation to the money allegedly obtained from 31 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: the scheme. They face a maximum of fifteen years jail 32 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: or up to one million dollars in fines now. Telegram 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: is an instant messaging service, and a telegram group is 34 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: a chat room where people communicate either in the open 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: or in secret. ACK allegers the four were the admin 36 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: group of the ASX Pump and Dump group telegram channel. 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: Back in twenty twenty one, ACIK warned the members that 38 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: they were engaging in illegal activity, and their regulator has 39 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: been chasing members of the telegram channel ever since. ACCK 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: claims hundreds of members were attempting to manipulate the share 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: prices of ASX list small caps, mostly resource companies. The 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: regulator alleges the share prices of these companies saw in 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: some cases almost one hundred percent before collapsing again. 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: So just kind of explain how this all works on 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: because it's a fascinating thing, isn't it. 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, look the number it is that pump and dump 47 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: schemes manipulate the market, and they're illegal. Mostly they work 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: by brokers or groups artificially inflating the price of a 49 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: stock they own. They might put out misleading positive statements, 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: for example, or chat rooms might talk up a stock 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: on really limited information, creating a frenzy really about a company. 52 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: That's the pump part. When share prices rise, as they 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: did in this case, those same people sell booking a 54 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: tidy profit. That's the dump part. The poor investor who 55 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: listened to the misleading statements or group chats and acted 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: on them, they end up being the losers. As you said, 57 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: it was demonstrated in the movie Wolf of Wall Street. 58 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: Best. 59 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: It's been going on for as long as trading has 60 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: been happening. Though very very hard to catch. Private chat 61 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: rooms can make pump and dump schemes easier nowadays now. 62 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: ASSEK chair Joe Longo didn't mince his words yesterday. He 63 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 3: said pump and dump schemes are a form of financial fraud, 64 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: eroding investor wealth, threatening the integrity of our markets and 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: potentially the Australian economy more broadly. 66 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: All Right, taking a look at local markets, now, how 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: do they perform? Yesterday? 68 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: The SMPA six two hundred closed up half a percent 69 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: to seven nine hundred and seventy one points. The tech 70 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: stocks did best following a strong lead in from Wall Street, 71 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: while healthcare stocks, industrials and consumers discretionary companies also outperformed 72 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: worst on the day. Worthy energy companies now say sells 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: a strong performer yesterday. So to Commonwealth Bank, HP slide continues. 74 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: It's now worth two hundred and ten billion dollars. That's 75 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: actually thirteen billion dollars less than Commonwealth Bank. It was 76 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: a little more than a week ago it was the 77 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: biggest company on the burs so that changeover has occurred 78 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: very rapidly. In corporate news, Transurban said it will partner 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: with the Queensland government to widen the western section of 80 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: the state's Logan motorway. Burns treatment developer poly Novo outline 81 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: growing demand for the company's products in conflict zones and 82 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: developing countries. Revenue last financial year was up more than 83 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: fifty percent. Its share price jumped more than seven percent yesterday. 84 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: The best of the top two hundred also Wes Farmers 85 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: and JB hi Fi hit record highs. Finally, Linus Rare 86 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: Earth said the gyn quarter was marked by lower production 87 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: due to maintenance works and falling prices for its products. 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: And what about international markets? What's going on? 89 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: Well? 90 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: Wall Street closed high yesterday morning, with tech stocks leading 91 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: the way, and Vidia jumped nearly five percent. Tesla was 92 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 3: up even more. Michael on stock not doing so well? 93 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: Is CrowdStrike, the cybersecurity group responsible for last week's global 94 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: IT outage. 95 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: That's somewhat to be expected, isn't it? 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 3: Those shit Well, what's probably a bit of a surprise. 97 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: It's often twenty five percent since the botched update. I'm 98 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: kind of surprised it's only twenty five percent. 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: That's a fair point considering the billions of dollars of 100 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: damage that has been done around the world. 101 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Look, the market seems to have settled down 102 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: just a little bit after all the Shanani Kigan's going 103 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 3: on in US politics that supported the US dollar, pushing 104 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: the Australian dollar down to sixty six point three US 105 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: Since that's actually one month low. It's pretty much been 106 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: heading down for most of the last two weeks. Still 107 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: pressure on commodity prices. Gold fell back below twenty four 108 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: hundred US dollars and ounce over the past twenty four hours. 109 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: That's probably likely to continue. 110 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: I think that's the first time you've used the word 111 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: shenanigans on Fear and Greed, and I hope it's not 112 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: the last. 113 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, it's a word we should use more. Shenanigans. 114 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Well, it sums up so much of what we talk about, really, 115 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: isn't it, particularly particularly when we're getting into US politics now, 116 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: shown very quick mention of the fact that today is Wednesday, 117 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: which means it is newsletter day. The Fear and Greed 118 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: newsletter is out every Wednesday morning. It comes out about 119 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: ten thirty eleven o'clock eleven thirty sometimes, and it is 120 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: choco block full of your views on a whole bunch 121 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: of stories. And I have a bit of an inkling 122 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: that you might be revealing your thoughts on the shenanigans 123 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: in US politics. 124 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: Ah, yes, definitely a bit on the shenanigans and US politics. 125 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: How can you miss it? 126 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? 127 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: It's a yeah, plenty of interesting news and views on 128 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: this one, Michael, certainly US politics, but there's more than that. 129 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: You haven't started it yet. 130 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 2: Heavy No, no, no, that's the point. 131 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: Love. I love how you suddenly go really you go 132 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: really vague about the content, about what's kind of the stories, 133 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: and it's just all very kind of teasery, bit kind 134 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: of cryptic. I love it. Anyway. Head along to Fearangreed 135 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: dot com dot au and pop your email addressing and 136 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: you will get the Fear and Greed free weekly newsletter 137 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: that lands in your inbox mid morning. Head along with 138 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: the website. Sign up for that one, Sean, We'll be 139 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 1: back in a moment with the rest of the day's 140 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: business news, Sean. The Fair Work Commission will conduct a 141 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: fundamental review of part time employment rules to establish a 142 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: standard model in awards. It also wants to determine a 143 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: new working from home clause in the Clerks of War 144 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: that could be a model to operate across industries. 145 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: The review comes after a smaller inquiry initiated last year 146 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: by the Albanezi government couldn't find consensus among employers and unions. 147 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: According to report in the Australian Commission President Adam Hatcher 148 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: said the part Time Employment Review, to commence next year, 149 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: will examine daily and weekly minimum hours of work for 150 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: part time employment and the circumstances in which working hours 151 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: may be altered and additional hours may be worked. 152 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: Now, the government wants awards. 153 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: Made easier to use, but it does oppose changes that 154 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: could result in any reduction of entitlements for award covered employees. 155 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: After the smaller inquiry, the Commission said, in general terms, 156 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: employer organizations sought greater flexibility and the ability to unilaterally 157 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: alter hours of work, while unions focused on greater predictability 158 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: for employees and work control over part time hours of work. 159 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: I think the work from home aspect of this fundamental 160 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: review is going to be very interesting because it's something 161 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: that I think many many employers are with right now. 162 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely now. The country's biggest builders and developers say 163 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: the cfmeused group on the construction sector has sent costs 164 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: skyrocketing and damaged productivity, yet they're reluctant to speak out publicly, 165 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: fearing retaliation from the militant union. 166 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: One unidentified source in a story in the finn Review said, 167 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: and I quote, there's a lot I could say, but 168 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: to be honest, I'm still very wary of publicly making 169 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: any comments and could not risk our name being attached 170 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: to any comments for fear of retribution end quote. The 171 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: Finn report says the comment was echoed by the leaders 172 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: across construction and property development. 173 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: A bit scary. 174 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: I think the CFMEMEU scandal, which alleges BIKI gangs, bags 175 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 3: of cash, bullying, poor behavior by the union, et cetera, 176 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: has forced the Albanezy government into putting the CFMEU into 177 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: external administration. The Fair Work Onwardsman has also been asked 178 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: to review all CFMEU enterprise agreements connected to Victoria's one 179 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 3: hundred billion dollar Big Build infrastructure pipeline, also fed rule. 180 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: Infrastructure Minister Katherine King has directed her department to review 181 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 3: construction projects overseen by government business enterprises, including the new 182 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 3: Western Sydney Airport and the Inland Rail Sewan. 183 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Woodside Energy share price fell four percent yesterday after it 184 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: said the cost of its massive Scarborough LNG project in 185 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: Western Australia will cost an extra five hundred million US dollars. 186 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that takes the cost of developing Scarborough to twelve 187 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 3: and a half billion US dollars, which isn't far off 188 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: twenty billion Aussie dollars massive project. Woodsides up for about 189 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: two thirds of that total amount. The first gas is 190 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: scheduled for twenty twenty six, and the cost increase was 191 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 3: blamed on scope maturation of the Pluto Train one project, 192 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: which will take gas from the offshore field and process 193 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: for export. Now, this is incredible project. It's three hundred 194 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: and seventy five kilometers off the Pilbroog coast of Western Australia. 195 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: It's two thirds complete. The gas will be. 196 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: Extracted and then piped four hundred and thirty kilometers to 197 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: an hon shore facility. When fully operational, it's expected to 198 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: produce around eight million tons of gas per annum. The 199 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: announcement yesterday came as a group said Dune quarter revenue 200 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: was up two percent, even though oil and gas production slipped. 201 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: Of course, on Monday, Woodside said it will buy US 202 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: L and G company Tulurian for one point two billion 203 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: US dollars. Plenty going on at that company. 204 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly isn't staying in the world of gas, which 205 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: is not really something I get to say that often. 206 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: The alban Ezy government has given the green light to 207 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: a new round of gas exploration. 208 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: Yes, the government now supports gas as a transition energy, 209 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: of course, and new gas offshore explanation permits cover both 210 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: the Otway and Sorrel basins. They're of Victoria and Tasmania. However, 211 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: in an effort to somewhat soften the environmental backlash which 212 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: has already occurred, the government has also finalized ten permits 213 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: to allow exploration of carbon capture and storage to trap 214 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: emissions from gas projects. 215 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: How about this one. In an effort to recover it's 216 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: I think you could say somewhat battered reputation, is allowing 217 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: customers to try its mobile network for one week for free. 218 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: For nothing. 219 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 220 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: During the trial, customers will have access to thirty gigabytes 221 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: of data, unlimited standard national calls and a thousand standard 222 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: national text messages over a seven day period. The company's 223 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: not requiring any payment details from customers. That's the part 224 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: I liked. The trial is available through the Myoptics app 225 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 3: and on any eSIM capable device. Most smartphones released in 226 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: the past couple of years are eSIM capable nowadays, Now, 227 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: according to a report in the Sidy Morning Herald, customers 228 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: can keep their current number and current provider and use 229 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: the app to switch between services. Optics, of course, lost 230 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: thousands of customers as a result of last year's outage, 231 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: which affected ten million people. The trial represents an open 232 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: challenge for customers to compare Optus. 233 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 2: To their current provider. 234 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: The Telko says, I reckon this is a really smart idea, sure, 235 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: And I think when I read this story yesterday, I 236 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: suddenly thought, because I'm with another provider alltogether, and really 237 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: I'm not that happy with the coverage that I get 238 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: within my house and when I'm trying to make calls 239 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: it's always a bit patchy. But you don't want to 240 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: go and shift to another provider without knowing that the 241 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: that the reception is going to be any better. Now 242 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: I can test it out for a week and actually 243 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: see whether ofptice is going to do it. So this 244 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: is kind of targeting the Thompson household. Sign me up. 245 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: It's targeting the Alma household too, because I mean, I 246 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: pay for one of the kids and it's quite expensive, 247 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 3: and I thought I might just just try this for 248 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: a week and see and if it's cheaper and as good, 249 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: I'll swap. 250 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: We might do a bit of a live trial. 251 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 2: Right here sh or maybe maybe maybe here we. 252 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Go turning to international news now and Vice President Krmala 253 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: Harris is virtually assured of being the Democrats nominee in 254 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: the presidential poll, lining up against Donald Trump after picking 255 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: up more than enough pledged delegates in just forty eight hours. 256 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: Missus Harris has a tight strangle hold on the job, 257 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: and no one is coming out to oppose her. She's 258 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: already campaigning in battleground states and was due to a 259 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: peer in Wisconsin overnight. She's hinted at how she might 260 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: attack Donald Trump, referring to her past pursuing predators and 261 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 3: Fordster's when she was San Francisco District Attorney in California's 262 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: attorney general. The speculation now is about her running mate, 263 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: with a number of state governors considered attractive options. Miss 264 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: Harris's supporters say she will mobilize younger and more liberal voters, 265 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: consolidate black support, and bring sharp debating skills against mister Trump. 266 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 3: Others fear her race and gender will work against her. 267 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely stick around to have a listen to Bruce 268 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: Walpy's take on all of this. Straight after the show, 269 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: Tesla chief executive Elon Musk says the ev maker will 270 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: have humanoid robots ready for internal use next year, and 271 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: hopefully be producing them for other companies by twenty twenty six. 272 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: As soon as I say humanoid robots, do you think 273 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: of C three PO from stuff? 274 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 275 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: Totally Now that's exactly what I think of C three PO. 276 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: And I just I like this story because we can 277 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: say humanoid robots. 278 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah again, humanoid robots shenanigans as a day of first 279 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: it is it is. 280 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: Tesla's been working on the robot for several years as 281 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: part of its efforts to expand into robotics and artificial intelligence. 282 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: In a post on X, mister Musk said he believed 283 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: the humanoid robots will be and I quate genuinely useful, 284 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: which probably suggests everything previously haven't been genuinely useful anyway. 285 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,359 Speaker 3: Tesler wants the robots to help produce its cars more efficiently, 286 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: complete difficult chores, and reduced labor shortages. Musk showed off 287 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: a prototype version in twenty twenty two of a humanoid 288 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: robot called Optimus. You might remember that one market took 289 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: a few steps wave to the crowd few basic dance 290 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: moves I think not overly impressive. 291 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: Kind of looked like you on a Saturday night, late 292 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: on a Saturday night, a few basic dance moves, a 293 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: bit of a wave to the crowd, then head off 294 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: home anyway, Sorry police, serious story this one to finish on. 295 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: Police are locking down large sections of Paris ahead of 296 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: the Olympic Games as rants, which is familiar of course, 297 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: with terrorist attacks wrestles with security in temporary venues. 298 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: So Paris is Europe's most densely populated capital. It's home 299 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: to people of many many cultures. One of the biggest 300 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: challenges is the opening ceremony on Friday night, that's Saturday 301 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: morning Australian time. About eighty boats are carrying athletes along 302 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: the send for about six kilometers, flanked by some three 303 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty thousand spectators residential buildings on both sides. 304 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: There will be a central perimeter accessible only to pre 305 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: registered guests who will undergo body searches. According to report 306 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: in the Ft, bomb squads will comb the Sens bridges, 307 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: many of which will be closed those famous bridges. Military 308 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: units will occupy rooftops to combat possible drone strikes. France 309 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: is also braced for potential cyber attacks, including from Russian hackers, 310 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: which target forces, command infrastructure, or hospital systems. The security 311 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: challenge in Paris is enormous. It's going to cost about 312 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: three hundred and thirty five million euros. That's about five 313 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: hundred and. 314 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: Fifty million Aussie. 315 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: That is a huge sum. 316 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: It is. Can't wait for it though. 317 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: Oh it's going to be incredible. The Olympics are always 318 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: as such a spectacle, and it's the kind of thing 319 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: that that it doesn't matter what you watch, even if 320 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: you are the least engaged sporting fan. For the rest 321 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: of the other kind of three years and fifty weeks, 322 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: you are glued to the TV during the Elyitics. 323 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: Totally. I love it. 324 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: Now, did you like how long it took me to 325 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: figure out how. 326 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: Many three years and fifty two minus fifty fifty three 327 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: years fifty weeks? 328 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: Oh God, I was going so well, and then I 329 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: felt the very last story in the show today, Sean, 330 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: that is a shame up. Next is the Fear and 331 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: Greed Daily Interview. Bruce Walpy, Senior fellow at the United 332 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: States Studies Center, is your guest, joining us from the 333 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: us YEP. 334 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: All about what's going all the Shenannigans. We decided to 335 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: call it the Shenanigans going on in US politics, particularly 336 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: around the Democratic Party and Carmala Harris and her chances 337 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: against Donald Trump. 338 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bruce of course has worked with the Barack Obama administration. 339 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: He knows this stuff just so well, so it is 340 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: worth a listen to what he has to say up 341 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: next in the Fear and Greed playlist on your podcast 342 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: platform or at Fearangreed dot com dot au, which is 343 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: also where you can sign up for the free weekly 344 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: newsletter which comes out mid morning. 345 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: Thank you Sean, Thank you Michael. 346 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, the twenty fourth of July twenty twenty four. 347 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: Make sure you're following the podcast and please join us 348 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: online on LinkedIn, Instagram, x TikTok and Facebook. I'm Michael 349 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: Thompson and that was Fear and Greed. Have a great day.