Speaker 1: I get a tip, I get ahaps.
Speaker 2: How are you just grand?
Speaker 1: But if I feel my fingers still too cold?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with your fingers? Love?
Speaker 1: Just cold? It's just cold. I don't got me nana
Speaker 1: blanket over my knees though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be one in Melbourne tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But let's stop talking about the weather, shall we. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't want to throw anyone under the bus, but
Speaker 2: it is forty minutes past five. You and I did
Speaker 2: have an appointment with a regular. We won't say his name,
Speaker 2: but I will. I can confirm that it rhymes with
Speaker 2: Mavid Bilessie, but I cannot tell you his name. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Kenevid Bilessie. It rhymes with he has not shown. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what's I'll be docking his considerable wage and
Speaker 2: he is on his official first morning. So Mavid, you
Speaker 2: know who you are. I know no one else. They
Speaker 2: haven't figured it out, but you know who you are.
Speaker 2: Mavent be officially warned and appropriately terrified. Hey, I did
Speaker 2: a gig today. I wanted to tell you. I wanted
Speaker 2: to tell you about a gig that I did, an
Speaker 2: idea that came out of this because I just loved it,
Speaker 2: and it's around a concept that I talk about a lot,
Speaker 2: which is having having an unreasonable friend or having somebody
Speaker 2: who tells you, you know, sometimes what you need to hear,
Speaker 2: not necessarily what you want to hear. And anyway, I
Speaker 2: was kind of explaining this concept. So I was doing
Speaker 2: am I allowed to say who I was doing it with?
Speaker 2: I think? So? So I was doing it with Vic
Speaker 2: Pole and we're talking about this, and it was we
Speaker 2: weren't really talking about policing stuff or the main reason
Speaker 2: I'm in there, which is to roll out of a
Speaker 2: particular project, but we're just talking about interpersonal stuff. So anyway,
Speaker 2: we're talking about this idea of self reflections, self awareness,
Speaker 2: self knowledge, self regulation, and then self actualization, which we
Speaker 2: could unpack at some stage on the show. I love
Speaker 2: that whole kind of process. But then we're talking about
Speaker 2: how this propensity that we have to surround ourself with
Speaker 2: people that tell us what we want to hear. And
Speaker 2: while it's nice to hear what we want to hear,
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily great for our development or our resilience,
Speaker 2: or our self awareness or our you know, our success
Speaker 2: over time, because we're probably living in something of a
Speaker 2: positive affirmation bias echo chamber, which don't really suit us anyway.
Speaker 2: He said, Ah, anyway, this dude, his name's James. I
Speaker 2: told him i'd give him a shout out, So I'm
Speaker 2: giving him a shout out. James, who's a gun by
Speaker 2: the way. And he said, oh, yeah, yeah, I had
Speaker 2: with my mum when I was a kid. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean he said, yeah, I used to
Speaker 2: be on lipstick duty. I'm like, what's lipstick duty? And
Speaker 2: he goes, well, you know, it's like because being the
Speaker 2: unreasonable friend is pointing out things to your friends that
Speaker 2: they can't see, right, so they don't know about themselves
Speaker 2: but other people can see.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he was basically the lipstick monitor free his mum.
Speaker 2: So whenever they would go out and she was frocked up,
Speaker 2: his job was to be on lipstick duty. So if
Speaker 2: she ever got any lipstick on her teeth that it
Speaker 2: was his job to covertly inform her so that she
Speaker 2: would not be publicly embarrassed and smiling with lippy on
Speaker 2: her teeth. And I thought, what a beautiful analogy. So
Speaker 2: I think we're I think we're going to call this
Speaker 2: lipstick duty, and the lipstick monitor.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how good is it? And I thought that is
Speaker 2: such a it is such a good metaphor or it's
Speaker 2: such a good compart. Garrison is to you know, to
Speaker 2: have a person in your life that that cares about
Speaker 2: you and doesn't want you to fail and wants you
Speaker 2: to succeed. But it might be the person that has
Speaker 2: to periodically point out to you things about you that
Speaker 2: might be not you know, what you want to hear,
Speaker 2: or might be embarrassing, or might be confronting or you know.
Speaker 2: And at the same time, it's a person that will,
Speaker 2: you know, support you and encourage you and tell you
Speaker 2: you're doing a great job when it's warranted, but not
Speaker 2: when it isn't. And I think, in you know, in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, I don't know that that person is.
Speaker 2: I don't know that that's a welcome person in some
Speaker 2: people's lives.
Speaker 1: I reckon it takes two. There's two really key aspects
Speaker 1: to it, and one is the relationship itself. You have
Speaker 1: to have a solid relationship and understanding of each other,
Speaker 1: and then the skill of actually having that conversation or
Speaker 1: that level of communication.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, I think there's a lot
Speaker 2: of there's a lot of variables around this. We were
Speaker 2: talking today. A big theme of the day that we
Speaker 2: were talking about was around communication, connection, respect, rapport, so
Speaker 2: all the kind of interpersonal stuff. And I was talking
Speaker 2: about one of the challenges that I had when I had,
Speaker 2: you know, lots of personal trainers working for me, especially
Speaker 2: in my Brighton center, which was massive, you know, So
Speaker 2: we would have thirty trainers on the floor regularly, each
Speaker 2: with one or two clients, so there might be eighty
Speaker 2: people on the gym floor, and I would, you know,
Speaker 2: I would do my thing. I would walk around and
Speaker 2: just kind of I'd either be training someone or i'd
Speaker 2: just be working the room and you know, pressing the
Speaker 2: flesh and saying hello. And but there'd be times when
Speaker 2: I would see people, obviously do see trainers do things
Speaker 2: that I didn't love. Not too often, but often enough
Speaker 2: when you've got that many sessions and that many trainers.
Speaker 2: And it might just be that they're wearing something that
Speaker 2: looks fucking unprofessional, or it might be that they say
Speaker 2: something that's not exactly anatomically or physiologically right. It's closed,
Speaker 2: but it's not right, and or it might be that
Speaker 2: you know, whatever, and so me. My responsibility is to
Speaker 2: obviously enlighten them, support them, encourage them, but you know,
Speaker 2: tell them, you know what they what I'm either not
Speaker 2: happy with or what I think they got wrong. But
Speaker 2: the challenge is how do you do that? When do
Speaker 2: you do that? Like you surely don't walk up on
Speaker 2: the gym floor and go, hey, can you just come
Speaker 2: over here for a minute while they're in the middle
Speaker 2: of a session, because you don't embarrass them, You don't
Speaker 2: want to draw any attention to that. But there was
Speaker 2: the odd time where I had because someone was doing
Speaker 2: something potentially dangerous and I couldn't wait. Not many times,
Speaker 2: but a few, but yeah, that was an ever present
Speaker 2: challenge is how do I still be the guy that's
Speaker 2: supportive and encouraging and positive while talking to people about
Speaker 2: things that they need to improve or change or be
Speaker 2: aware of. And of course, if you've got thirty trainers
Speaker 2: on the floor, you've got thirty personalities and you know
Speaker 2: they're and even with the same person, like for example,
Speaker 2: with you and the same with me the other way around.
Speaker 2: Like there's probably days where I could say to you
Speaker 2: something which might not be a criticism, but it's just
Speaker 2: an observation about a way that you could do something better. Now,
Speaker 2: depending on the day, you might go, ah, yeah, that's good,
Speaker 2: I haven't thought of that, thanks, Or you might go
Speaker 2: fuck off, do you know what I mean? You might
Speaker 2: not outwardly, but you might inwardly go fuck off because
Speaker 2: on that day. You know, so there's all of these
Speaker 2: variables around, you know, because I know with some of
Speaker 2: my staff, I could walk up, I could go hey, listen, champ,
Speaker 2: just a quick bit of feedback, and they'd go, oh, yeah, cool, thanks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize thank you. Thanks, And they're genuinely
Speaker 2: good and they genuinely fix it and it's there's not
Speaker 2: even a speed hump, it's seamless. And then with other people,
Speaker 2: I really have to be careful because I've got to
Speaker 2: navigate and negotiate you know, shitty self esteem and a
Speaker 2: bit of ego and all of these things. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that for me was you know, an ever present kind
Speaker 2: of into personal challenge. But but back to this go on.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, how did you if you
Speaker 1: can remember, or how would you if you don't have
Speaker 1: an answer, specific answer for it, navigate that you know,
Speaker 1: those times when you had to confront something in the
Speaker 1: gym where someone's doing something and you have to address
Speaker 1: it there and maybe in front of the client. How
Speaker 1: do you manage that whilst not decredit made them make
Speaker 1: me yea disredited?
Speaker 2: I mean generally when that was happening, that was a young, inexperienced,
Speaker 2: new to the industry trainer who might be I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, just the only reason I would do that
Speaker 2: is if I think they are doing something that could
Speaker 2: injure the person. Yeah, and obviously I'm not going to
Speaker 2: wait till after the session, but I would go and
Speaker 2: I'd say, can I just can I chime in? Can
Speaker 2: I can I help for a minute or And generally
Speaker 2: they would be okay, I'd go, look, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: That's eight out of ten. But I'd just like you
Speaker 2: to do this for these reasons. You know, what you're
Speaker 2: doing is not terrible, but it's not optimal. So let's
Speaker 2: try this. And look, did I ever, you know, did
Speaker 2: anyone ever get their nose out of join? Of course
Speaker 2: they did. Did any of my trainers ever fucking hate
Speaker 2: me for three days? Of course they did? You know.
Speaker 2: But like this is one of the challenges of leadership,
Speaker 2: Like there's going to be times where people hate you
Speaker 2: and you'll say the same thing to someone else and
Speaker 2: they'll appreciate you. And all you can do is, you know,
Speaker 2: live in alignment with your values and say, well, I
Speaker 2: care about my client's welfare. That's the priority. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: priority is their well being, not my trainer's ego or
Speaker 2: self esteem. And so if someone gets there now and
Speaker 2: knows how to joint, which I don't want, but if
Speaker 2: that's the consequence, but I have to intervene here, you know,
Speaker 2: and then we could if I knew that that created
Speaker 2: a problem for them, then as much as I could,
Speaker 2: I would sit down with them. But you know, the
Speaker 2: truth is that you know, I had hundreds of staff,
Speaker 2: and of course there are I'm sure there are people
Speaker 2: out there that that worked with me or for me
Speaker 2: or under my banner who don't have great things to say. Statistically,
Speaker 2: that's inevitable, and there are other people who say the
Speaker 2: nicest things. Ever, and by the way, some of those
Speaker 2: negative things warranted, I'm sure one hundred percent. You know,
Speaker 2: and being able to recognize that you're going to get
Speaker 2: things wrong, you are going to do things that the
Speaker 2: end result of that, even though you didn't intend it,
Speaker 2: is that somebody got offended or somebody got hurt and
Speaker 2: you were unintentionally the cause of that. That's just one
Speaker 2: of those ever present dynamic social dynamic challenges of working
Speaker 2: with a bunch of different humans, thinking about like, right now,
Speaker 2: how many thousand people are listening to this episode and
Speaker 2: some are really resonating and some are not. Some have
Speaker 2: already tuned out, and some are leaning in, and some
Speaker 2: are like, I'll see if it gets better. But everyone's
Speaker 2: listening to the same thing.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that same person on a different day,
Speaker 1: and like, I resonate with that so much because I
Speaker 1: think of how shit sometimes my initial response wants to be.
Speaker 1: And it was like, quite recently, I had having conversation
Speaker 1: with someone who was giving me advice and they're a
Speaker 1: beautiful person, and I was tired, exhausted and feeling burnt
Speaker 1: out in a bit, you know, and they're like, you
Speaker 1: need to have you know, you really need to have
Speaker 1: a holiday, you really need to take time time out,
Speaker 1: and I didn't because they're such a lovely person. I'm
Speaker 1: like fiding my tongue. I'm like, cause if I speak,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a little bitch because I'm feeling
Speaker 1: tired with my responses and it's all me created, right,
Speaker 1: so I know it's unreasonable where I just want to go.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to winge about all the reasons
Speaker 1: why not? Which are me reasons? Someone who's going to
Speaker 1: pay all my bills and who's going to pay for
Speaker 1: the holiday? And oh, that's all well and good for
Speaker 1: everyone else in the you know, like yes, And in
Speaker 1: that moment, I know that that's and it was like
Speaker 1: any other day this would be a nice conversation, but
Speaker 1: today this sends me on a tirade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that's good self awareness. You know. I'm
Speaker 2: going through my just little list here, so I think
Speaker 2: this is relevant for you. So this is one of
Speaker 2: the it's kind of a a multi layered thing to
Speaker 2: this self awareness kind of construct that I share with groups,
Speaker 2: which I don't know if I've ever shared with you,
Speaker 2: definitely a form of it. So you know, for those
Speaker 2: of you who want to turn up the volume on
Speaker 2: your self awareness. By the way, it's like self awareness
Speaker 2: is one of the hardest things in the human experience
Speaker 2: because you know it's you are you are trying to
Speaker 2: examine yourself and your own mind and your own behaviors
Speaker 2: through the subjective window that is you, right. So it's
Speaker 2: a real challenge, and that's why sometimes having somebody else
Speaker 2: give you a little bit of input, you know, watching
Speaker 2: yourself on a video, listening to yourself on a podcast,
Speaker 2: your unreasonable friend saying hey, sometimes you you know, like,
Speaker 2: I know you don't mean this, but sometimes you're a
Speaker 2: little rude, or sometimes you're a bit intimidating, Craig, or
Speaker 2: you know, all the things that I've had, you know,
Speaker 2: or sometimes you're you're not very patient, or sometimes you're
Speaker 2: a little bit too blunt or direct or I've had
Speaker 2: all of those things, and I understand times for some
Speaker 2: people I am because like and I, this is something
Speaker 2: that I just need to be aware of because and
Speaker 2: I say this openly, I'm more interested in helping people
Speaker 2: build a better version of them over the next one two, five,
Speaker 2: ten years, physically, mentally, emotionally, blah blah blah. That I
Speaker 2: am concerned with making someone feel good for three minutes.
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to feel bad. But my goal
Speaker 2: is not to stroke someone's ego or make them emotionally
Speaker 2: secure for the next three minutes just because I want
Speaker 2: to make them have a comfortable experience. But anyway, so
Speaker 2: that these five kind of these five steps are. One
Speaker 2: is self reflection, which is just where we're trying to
Speaker 2: get a bit of distance between us the observer and
Speaker 2: our actions, our choices, our responses, our operating system, our
Speaker 2: normal protocol. So just reflecting without kind of putting any
Speaker 2: weight or judgment. So it's really just about curiosity. And
Speaker 2: then what arises out of that is awareness. So when
Speaker 2: we recognize something when we try to look through that
Speaker 2: unbiased hard to do, but that unbiased window where we're
Speaker 2: just reflecting on what happened, we're trying not to emotionalize it,
Speaker 2: we're just being attentive. Then something comes up where you go, yeah,
Speaker 2: I am like you said before, So you just demonstrated
Speaker 2: awareness where you said this person was their intention were good,
Speaker 2: they were saying something nice, but I knew in the moment, right,
Speaker 2: that's awareness that I needed to bite my lip or else,
Speaker 2: so I was going to tell them to fuck off
Speaker 2: or whatever you were going to do. Right, So then
Speaker 2: and then that gets embedded in us as So the
Speaker 2: next one is self knowledge, which is where we just
Speaker 2: have a greater understanding of us, Like I know now
Speaker 2: that For example, I can be intimidating, so that's something
Speaker 2: that I know, so I factor that in. I know
Speaker 2: that I can talk over the top of people in
Speaker 2: terms of using language that they might not resonate with
Speaker 2: or even have heard. So I'm very aware that I
Speaker 2: need to use words and language and dialogue, especially on
Speaker 2: this show, where the conversation is meaningful and relevant and understandable.
Speaker 2: Otherwise what's the point, right, So I operationalize that knowledge,
Speaker 2: or you know, a much more practical form of self
Speaker 2: knowledge is I know that my body works well on
Speaker 2: two meals a day. So that's self knowledge that came
Speaker 2: out of, you know, experimenting in a kind of awareness.
Speaker 2: And then the next one so self reflection, self awareness,
Speaker 2: self knowledge. The next one is self regulation, which is
Speaker 2: me learning to manage me with this new knowledge. You know.
Speaker 2: So like you know, for example, you might know that
Speaker 2: your energy, your focus, your productivity, your efficiency tip is
Speaker 2: better between six am and two I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is, right, but like you know how you work best,
Speaker 2: so you operationalize that. So you know, you doing podcasts
Speaker 2: at eight pm probably not a great idea, you know,
Speaker 2: or whatever. You you having a deeper meaningful with someone
Speaker 2: when you're starving. Not a great idea because you won't
Speaker 2: focus because you get angry. Right, But you have that awareness,
Speaker 2: you have that knowledge, and so you would say, all right, well,
Speaker 2: I've got to do a workshop at three o'clock this
Speaker 2: afternoon for two hours, three to five, I'm working with
Speaker 2: these people. There's no way that you would go into
Speaker 2: that not having eaten, yep, because that would impact your performance,
Speaker 2: you know. And then and then the last one, so
Speaker 2: self reflection, self awareness, self knowledge, self regulation. The last
Speaker 2: one is self actualization, which is just you becoming that
Speaker 2: better version of you. You know, you having recognized what
Speaker 2: needs to change, made decisions, taken action, improvised, adapted, and
Speaker 2: now the actualized version of that is you're better. You're
Speaker 2: more efficient, you're more effective whatever it is. You're making
Speaker 2: more dough, you're more patient, you're a better listener. You've
Speaker 2: changed your body composition, your bank balance has grown. These
Speaker 2: are all versions of self actualization, which is becoming the
Speaker 2: thing the person you want to become, or creating the
Speaker 2: outcome that you want to create or want it to create.
Speaker 2: And now you're there. So I like that little framework.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's really helpful because it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: like a self awareness is funny. It's such a path
Speaker 1: I feel. Look, I started it years ago and it's
Speaker 1: just this moving target.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, there's there's you, there's how you experience you,
Speaker 2: and obviously we've overdone the how others see you. But
Speaker 2: go on.
Speaker 1: Well, I was also going to say, and there's the
Speaker 1: awareness of because I always think of this, if I'm
Speaker 1: what I want to say to somebody, the feedback that
Speaker 1: I am thinking about offering, is that just my bias?
Speaker 1: What's my Why is it just me experience and experiencing
Speaker 1: them like that? Why is my Is my intentional understanding
Speaker 1: actually helpful and beneficial to them? Or do I just
Speaker 1: think it is because I'm me?
Speaker 2: M Yeah, And what's the space between what's going on
Speaker 2: for them and what's going on for you in that
Speaker 2: same moment? Yeah, you know, theory of mine understanding their
Speaker 2: version of now not necessarily agreeing or aligning. Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 2: That's that kind of that interpersonal superpower is understanding other
Speaker 2: people's thinking, understanding their reality, and then, you know, as
Speaker 2: I've said too many times, understanding how they perceive and
Speaker 2: process and experience you. I don't do this normally, but
Speaker 2: I'm going to give a shout out. So we're talking
Speaker 2: about unreasonable friends and so full of disclosure everyone where
Speaker 2: we're at right now. So we're recording this twenty five
Speaker 2: to six. It's Wednesday nights or Wednesday late afternoon, and
Speaker 2: so the old man Ronald Edward, personal Clarence Terrence, James Ambrose,
Speaker 2: Aloisious Harper, my dad at Ol. My dad went, he
Speaker 2: had to go in hospital today for a little procedure.
Speaker 2: We'll just leave it at that, the procedure anyway, So
Speaker 2: I had a gig this morning and in the city between,
Speaker 2: which meant I wasn't going to be back home in
Speaker 2: hampt until about one month thirty. And Dad had to
Speaker 2: be at the hospital in Brick, which is an hour away,
Speaker 2: and he needed to be picked up in more Well,
Speaker 2: which is two hour anyway, The not too long version
Speaker 2: is that one of my best friends for the last
Speaker 2: thirty years, in fact forty years, oh my god, yes,
Speaker 2: since we were about twenty Greg. So Greg said, you know, like,
Speaker 2: I'll pick up your dad. So Greg lives in Brick Tiff.
Speaker 2: He lives in Brick, which is where the hospital is
Speaker 2: that dad's at. So he lives in Barrick. He drove
Speaker 2: to Moore, which is an hour and a quarter give
Speaker 2: or take, picked up Ron. Now remember Ron's eighty five.
Speaker 2: He's got a few issues, he's diabetic, He's got a
Speaker 2: bit of stuff going on. Then he drove Dad from
Speaker 2: Morewell back to Bhrick and to check in at midday.
Speaker 2: Now they got there probably twenty thirty minutes early. Of
Speaker 2: course they did checked him in and last time I
Speaker 2: chat to Greg, which was about thirty minutes ago, they
Speaker 2: are still sitting there. So five thirty in the afternoon
Speaker 2: still hadn't gone in to be operated on. So my
Speaker 2: mate left home this morning at about I guess nine o'clock,
Speaker 2: went and got my dad, took my dad to the hospital,
Speaker 2: got there at eleven thirty and has been literally sitting
Speaker 2: with my dad for the best part of six hours,
Speaker 2: just to make sure my dad's okay. What the fucking
Speaker 2: what an amazing? How good? You know? Like to me,
Speaker 2: it almost makes me teary that somebody would do that
Speaker 2: for me. Obviously do it for my dad, but do
Speaker 2: it for me like to me, that's I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that so much that somebody is just And
Speaker 2: I've rung him a few times and gone, mate, I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry, because I mean, obviously it's not my fault,
Speaker 2: but I'm so so sorry. Sorry. It's like, ah, it's okay,
Speaker 2: it's okay, that's all right, we're having a good time.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're not having a good time. They're fucking sitting.
Speaker 2: He's waiting for surgery. But I just didn't want to
Speaker 2: be dad to be left alone for six hours, you know,
Speaker 2: because it's a bit you're eighty five, is a diabetic
Speaker 2: and also he hasn't drunk anything like no liquid or
Speaker 2: no food sense yesterday, so twenty four hours and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm a bit worried. And you know, how good is
Speaker 2: it to have human beings that come into your life
Speaker 2: that truly there's that unconditional love, you know.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of There was one of my former
Speaker 1: guests on LinkedIn. He recently posted this really does these
Speaker 1: daily doses. He he's researched kindness, so he talks about
Speaker 1: kindness and I love it. And I'll get this a
Speaker 1: bit wrong, but there was this snippet I love. I
Speaker 1: shared it on my LinkedIn the other day because I
Speaker 1: stopped and watched it and loved it. Where He talks out,
Speaker 1: when we don't have enough time. We always complained about
Speaker 1: we don't have enough time, and we don't have enough
Speaker 1: time to give yes and they. He points out a
Speaker 1: research paper, just a small research study, but one that
Speaker 1: shows the people's subjective relationship with time. These busy people,
Speaker 1: the ones that actually created time to give to others,
Speaker 1: to focus on others, transformed both. Yeah, this subjective relationship
Speaker 1: with time. And I guess how you what you get
Speaker 1: out of that? It was God, I'll have to share it.
Speaker 1: I'll share it in the top group because I've justice,
Speaker 1: but really, because I fall in that category at times,
Speaker 1: I always complain I'd like to do more meaningful stuff.
Speaker 1: But I knew live to him, I.
Speaker 2: Remember a long time ago, would have been maybe two
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, so fifteen years ago I was talking
Speaker 2: back then I was doing more in the Look how
Speaker 2: red I look on this? My room's gone dark. I
Speaker 2: look like I've got third degree sunburn. Sorry everyone, you can't,
Speaker 2: but I look like I look like a tomato with
Speaker 2: a silver kind of frosting on the top. Anyway, I
Speaker 2: don't know what it is now, but but I do though,
Speaker 2: don't I I.
Speaker 1: Do a little very much so I can't even remember
Speaker 1: what you'd started to talk about it.
Speaker 2: Now you can't unsee the tomato with a silver frosting, right,
Speaker 2: I wonder what that would taste like? Terrible, I'm imagining. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Here's what I was going to say. So we're talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, time. The number one excuse that I got
Speaker 2: given by you know, nearly everyone for years and years
Speaker 2: and years like as to why they didn't exercise was
Speaker 2: they didn't have time. I'm like, if I could say, okay,
Speaker 2: so why not because it's never because I'm lazy? Right,
Speaker 2: No one ever went I'm lazy. Everyone went, oh, it's time.
Speaker 2: Because if it's time, then it's not me. Right, It's
Speaker 2: because it's like I can't control time, so therefore it's
Speaker 2: out of my hands. It's a time issue, equals it's
Speaker 2: not a me issue. But if it's laziness, then it's me.
Speaker 2: I'm the problem. So what I want to do is
Speaker 2: I want to deflect and I'll go, fuck, it's time.
Speaker 2: But at that time I did some research and it
Speaker 2: was a bit varied, but on average, the Australian the
Speaker 2: average Australian punter watched twenty eight hours of television per week. Right,
Speaker 2: So four hours a day. Now, you think if you
Speaker 2: turn on the telly at five thirty or six when
Speaker 2: you get home, and you turn it off at nine
Speaker 2: thirty or ten, and you watch a bit on Sunday,
Speaker 2: or you watch a bit in the morning you turn
Speaker 2: it on, or you're watching your Brecky in the morning show, like,
Speaker 2: four hours a day is not a lot. I mean,
Speaker 2: it seems like a lot, but it's actually easy to
Speaker 2: like not these days for me, but back in the day,
Speaker 2: I would turn on the telly at five and flick
Speaker 2: it off at eleven. Well that's six hours. That's forty
Speaker 2: two hours a week. So it's a job. You're working
Speaker 2: with the fucking job, right, So what's my point? My
Speaker 2: point is in a country where the number one reason
Speaker 2: that people gave for not having enough time to exercise,
Speaker 2: and you think, even if people did seven days a week,
Speaker 2: thirty minutes, that's only three and a half hours, seven
Speaker 2: days a week, thirty minutes, three and a half hours.
Speaker 2: Those people who couldn't find the time were on average
Speaker 2: watching twenty eight hours of television per week. And again,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be critical, I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: throw on anyone. I'm just going you know what this is,
Speaker 2: we bullshit ourselves about the truth because it's like, well,
Speaker 2: if it's a me issue, then I've got to be responsible.
Speaker 2: I've got to be accountable. I've got to make a decision.
Speaker 2: I've got to change. And it's so easy to deflect
Speaker 2: and avoid and deny and point fingers because it's just
Speaker 2: then I can stay in this holding pattern.
Speaker 1: I get it though, because back in the day, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even go out for dinner with my family if
Speaker 1: it was at the time that Home and Away was on,
Speaker 1: So you.
Speaker 2: Know, I wouldn't own up to that. I would know
Speaker 2: up to that.
Speaker 1: That's a true story.
Speaker 2: Who's your best friend over the years? Like maybe that
Speaker 2: not that I feel like you're not that kind of person.
Speaker 1: I reckon Courtney, Courtney Divine. She lives in Perth now
Speaker 1: and she's a really special friend. I've got another really
Speaker 1: good friend, Alison. They kind of fall into different categories
Speaker 1: for me, but Courtney is definitely right up there because
Speaker 1: we've had some we've been through a lot together and
Speaker 1: at some times it were pretty big. So, yeah, how
Speaker 1: many best friends do you have?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, probably my best friend. You know is all
Speaker 2: you know? Greg and Vin Vin who you met And
Speaker 2: Vin's just Vin's my longest best friend, like just the
Speaker 2: best guy in the world. And listen to us, we
Speaker 2: sound like fucking teenagers at lunch. He's my best friend ever,
Speaker 2: like Besty lifelong bestie. Anyway, I'm not sure that anyone
Speaker 2: got anything out of this, but Gillespo, we blame you
Speaker 2: for this substandard podcast. David Billespie, you're the cause. Thanks everyone.
Speaker 2: Sorry for the disappointment, but you know we'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We'll try to make it better than a three out
Speaker 2: of ten. See see it, Tim, see it helps fucking
Speaker 2: nvid