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Speaker 1: But if I feel my fingers still too cold?

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Speaker 1: Just cold? It's just cold. I don't got me nana

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Speaker 2: But let's stop talking about the weather, shall we. Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to throw anyone under the bus, but

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Speaker 2: it is forty minutes past five. You and I did

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Speaker 2: have an appointment with a regular. We won't say his name,

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Speaker 2: Mavid Bilessie, but I cannot tell you his name. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Kenevid Bilessie. It rhymes with he has not shown. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what's I'll be docking his considerable wage and

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Speaker 2: he is on his official first morning. So Mavid, you

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Speaker 2: know who you are. I know no one else. They

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Speaker 2: Mavent be officially warned and appropriately terrified. Hey, I did

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Speaker 2: a gig today. I wanted to tell you. I wanted

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Speaker 2: I think? So? So I was doing it with Vic

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Speaker 2: Pole and we're talking about this, and it was we

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Speaker 1: what you'd started to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Now you can't unsee the tomato with a silver frosting, right,

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Speaker 2: I wonder what that would taste like? Terrible, I'm imagining. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Here's what I was going to say. So we're talking about,

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Speaker 2: you know, time. The number one excuse that I got

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Speaker 2: given by you know, nearly everyone for years and years

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Speaker 2: and years like as to why they didn't exercise was

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Speaker 2: they didn't have time. I'm like, if I could say, okay,

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Speaker 2: so why not because it's never because I'm lazy? Right,

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Speaker 2: No one ever went I'm lazy. Everyone went, oh, it's time.

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Speaker 2: Because if it's time, then it's not me. Right, It's

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Speaker 2: because it's like I can't control time, so therefore it's

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Speaker 2: out of my hands. It's a time issue, equals it's

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Speaker 2: not a me issue. But if it's laziness, then it's me.

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Speaker 2: I'm the problem. So what I want to do is

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Speaker 2: I want to deflect and I'll go, fuck, it's time.

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Speaker 2: But at that time I did some research and it

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Speaker 2: was a bit varied, but on average, the Australian the

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Speaker 2: average Australian punter watched twenty eight hours of television per week. Right,

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Speaker 2: So four hours a day. Now, you think if you

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Speaker 2: turn on the telly at five thirty or six when

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Speaker 2: you get home, and you turn it off at nine

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Speaker 2: thirty or ten, and you watch a bit on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: or you watch a bit in the morning you turn

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Speaker 2: it on, or you're watching your Brecky in the morning show, like,

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Speaker 2: four hours a day is not a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it seems like a lot, but it's actually easy to

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Speaker 2: like not these days for me, but back in the day,

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Speaker 2: I would turn on the telly at five and flick

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Speaker 2: it off at eleven. Well that's six hours. That's forty

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Speaker 2: two hours a week. So it's a job. You're working

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Speaker 2: with the fucking job, right, So what's my point? My

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Speaker 2: point is in a country where the number one reason

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Speaker 2: that people gave for not having enough time to exercise,

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Speaker 2: and you think, even if people did seven days a week,

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Speaker 2: thirty minutes, that's only three and a half hours, seven

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Speaker 2: days a week, thirty minutes, three and a half hours.

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Speaker 2: Those people who couldn't find the time were on average

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Speaker 2: watching twenty eight hours of television per week. And again,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be critical, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: throw on anyone. I'm just going you know what this is,

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Speaker 2: we bullshit ourselves about the truth because it's like, well,

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Speaker 2: if it's a me issue, then I've got to be responsible.

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Speaker 2: I've got to be accountable. I've got to make a decision.

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Speaker 2: I've got to change. And it's so easy to deflect

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Speaker 2: and avoid and deny and point fingers because it's just

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Speaker 2: then I can stay in this holding pattern.

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Speaker 1: I get it though, because back in the day, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even go out for dinner with my family if

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Speaker 1: it was at the time that Home and Away was on,

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Speaker 1: So you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I wouldn't own up to that. I would know

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Speaker 2: up to that.

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Speaker 1: That's a true story.

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Speaker 2: Who's your best friend over the years? Like maybe that

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Speaker 2: not that I feel like you're not that kind of person.

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Speaker 1: I reckon Courtney, Courtney Divine. She lives in Perth now

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Speaker 1: and she's a really special friend. I've got another really

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Speaker 1: good friend, Alison. They kind of fall into different categories

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Speaker 1: for me, but Courtney is definitely right up there because

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Speaker 1: we've had some we've been through a lot together and

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Speaker 1: at some times it were pretty big. So, yeah, how

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Speaker 1: many best friends do you have?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, probably my best friend. You know is all

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Speaker 2: you know? Greg and Vin Vin who you met And

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Speaker 2: Vin's just Vin's my longest best friend, like just the

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Speaker 2: best guy in the world. And listen to us, we

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Speaker 2: sound like fucking teenagers at lunch. He's my best friend ever,

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Speaker 2: like Besty lifelong bestie. Anyway, I'm not sure that anyone

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Speaker 2: got anything out of this, but Gillespo, we blame you

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Speaker 2: for this substandard podcast. David Billespie, you're the cause. Thanks everyone.

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Speaker 2: Sorry for the disappointment, but you know we'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We'll try to make it better than a three out

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Speaker 2: of ten. See see it, Tim, see it helps fucking

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