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Speaker 1: This is the fits In and Whip with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the O drug O Zmpic made headlines

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Speaker 1: sort of mid last year, didn't it as the popular

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Speaker 1: weight loss drunk designed for a diabetics, and then they

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Speaker 1: realized the effect of weight loss was evident when someone

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Speaker 1: was taking the drugs. Then there was the initial issue

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Speaker 1: where people who had diabetes that needed the drugs couldn't

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Speaker 1: actually get the drunk because everybody realized that if I

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Speaker 1: get my hands on it, then I can lose some weight.

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Speaker 1: That's when it became Hollywood's best friend. Then it ended

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Speaker 1: up here in Australia, guys, and I know a couple

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Speaker 1: of people that have been on it hasn't done a

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Speaker 1: lot for them, to be honest, Or maybe I just

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Speaker 1: missed the part where they lost the weight and now

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Speaker 1: they've put it back on again.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot more people on it though,

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Speaker 2: is it fair to say the more people around too?

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Speaker 2: I mean word of mouth is and from what I've heard,

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Speaker 2: the nausea that you actually that occurs in the side effects.

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Speaker 2: I feel like now people are getting over that cake.

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Speaker 2: You know, first up it's really hard, but now people

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Speaker 2: are becoming accustomed to feeling like that all the time,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my gosh, and I think think

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Speaker 2: of anything worse.

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Speaker 3: I think some people are so desperate to look a

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Speaker 3: certain way, you know, not the people that need the drug,

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Speaker 3: but the people who are thinking, oh my goodness, I

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Speaker 3: can be Instagram ready in eight weeks. I don't we

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Speaker 3: all dream if I do this. I think the want

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Speaker 3: to drop the weight and look a certain way outweighs

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Speaker 3: the you know a little bit of the vomiting.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen hundred dollars per month for your dose?

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Speaker 2: What the cost, how expensive it is?

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Speaker 1: The cost of skinning's gone up, skinning, cost of living, skinning.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here's the thing. This stuff.

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Speaker 3: Comes down.

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Speaker 1: It starts to go on thumbs down, starts to go

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Speaker 1: on in this article and talk about how you can

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Speaker 1: roughly lose and quite quick. You can lose ten percent

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Speaker 1: of your body weight. Now that's quite a significant amount,

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Speaker 1: and you would hope to do that on ozenpic in

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Speaker 1: around three months time. So that's fairly rapid weight loss,

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Speaker 1: two not three months.

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Speaker 3: Didn't I thought it was quicker than that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it is quicker for some people. But here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: The recent articles that have been written about it, and

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Speaker 1: it's GLP one, which is the actual medicine. It's come

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Speaker 1: under fire for a host of reported side effects, including

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Speaker 1: suicidal thoughts, bowel injuries, and even weight gain when you

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Speaker 1: come off it. Here's the thing. This woman's gone on

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Speaker 1: to say that she lost twenty pounds and then since

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Speaker 1: then she's put on thirty once she stopped taking ozeenpic.

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Speaker 2: That's the same with any diet.

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Speaker 1: I never eating snacking.

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Speaker 2: But see people go on diets, they do really, really well,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, you relapse, you know what, You'll

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Speaker 2: have a couple of big weekends or whatever and you

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Speaker 2: put it back on. Yeah, I mean that's always going

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Speaker 2: to happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, you would think so too if the idea of

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Speaker 1: the drug is to stop the cravings. So if you've

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Speaker 1: stopped yourself feeling hungry, then the minute you come off that,

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Speaker 1: well nothing's going to change, isn't it. You're just going

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Speaker 1: to go back to the old snack man.

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Speaker 3: Here he is.

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Speaker 1: Look he's got his hand in the cookie jar again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've you've changed whatever it is the chemical workings

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Speaker 3: during that period. You have to lay the cookie jar,

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Speaker 3: You have to change your mental. I guess you do

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Speaker 3: your attitude towards food and exercise, and.

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Speaker 1: I think that's where the issue comes into Kate, because

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Speaker 1: you get off the ozen pic, the next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: you start putting all the weight on again. Then you

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Speaker 1: feel disappointed in yourself and then you become flat, and

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Speaker 1: then there might be some mental health issues. So that's

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Speaker 1: what they're citing is one of the big issues with

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Speaker 1: ozm pic.

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Speaker 2: Is it easy to get thirteen twenty fourteen? Can you

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Speaker 2: just go to your local GP to get it? Because

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a diet for diabetics and it

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Speaker 2: was really hard to get. You had to know certain

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Speaker 2: people to get well.

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Speaker 1: I told you the story when I went to a

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Speaker 1: GP and we were talking about snoring and she said

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Speaker 1: there's one way you can reduce snoring and I said, oh,

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Speaker 1: what's that. She said, lose some weight and I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I need to work on that, and she said, well,

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Speaker 1: there's a quicker way we could do it. You can't

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Speaker 1: suggest that for me.

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Speaker 2: Why why?

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Speaker 1: For obvious reasons? Why?

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Speaker 2: There was a there's a mate, you've had it. You've

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Speaker 2: had a good run over Christmas.

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Speaker 1: An awkward pause.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it is sorry that came agroad. I didn't

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Speaker 3: come across the way I intended to.

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Speaker 2: What I find really weird is, like you said, Kate,

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Speaker 2: it is a chemical that you are injecting yourself with,

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Speaker 2: and then that that feeling when your body is rejecting

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Speaker 2: it and you feel crooked. That's where I'm like, nah,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to feel like that to lose weight.

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Speaker 2: To feel crooked, that you forcing yourself not to eat,

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Speaker 2: and that's how you lose the weight. I don't know

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Speaker 2: are you getting enjoyment out of that at all?

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Speaker 3: Because I think some people do get a level of

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Speaker 3: enjoyment around being in control of things, because I think

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Speaker 3: there are other areas where you know, it's not just

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Speaker 3: a zepic that people use to lose weight. That is

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Speaker 3: that's unhealthy for mental health and body health.

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Speaker 1: I think what you're talking about is effort and reward

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Speaker 1: fits and that's what I've been trying to teach the kids. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you want to ask them this afternoon, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: We're going for a run now. So then you know

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Speaker 1: you've got your reward and you only get that when

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Speaker 1: the efforts put in. So I think that's sort of

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Speaker 1: the better way of doing things.

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Speaker 3: Look, will they say that about anything, don't they? Everything

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Speaker 3: in moderation consistency is keen, and you deserve it, but.

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Speaker 1: You deserve to look No, this is.

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Speaker 3: And when I say you deserve it, I don't mean

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Speaker 3: the cheeseburger. You don't well, but maybe you do. If

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Speaker 3: you want a cheeseburger, you deserve that cheoeburger. But you

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Speaker 3: deserve to feel the best version of you, whatever that

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Speaker 3: may be.

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Speaker 1: You going like if I had to go to let's

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Speaker 1: say I was invited to an overseas wedding. This is weird.

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Speaker 1: This is a weird hypothetical. It's an overseas wedding and

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Speaker 1: you've got to turn up in budget smugglers.

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Speaker 3: So event based, that's never going to happen to you,

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Speaker 3: because you have a job that you couldn't possibly leave

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Speaker 3: just to gallavan to the other side.

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Speaker 1: But then you might take ozembic four an event knowing

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Speaker 1: that this wasn't serious weight loss. But I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what I need to look good for one night only

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Speaker 1: type thing? Would you do that?

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think that's a healthy way

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Speaker 3: of you need it. You need a like a life

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Speaker 3: style change quick mast.

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Speaker 2: I know a woman who's on it, and she will

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Speaker 2: have it the day before she goes out that night,

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Speaker 2: because obviously she wants to look good Kate. But then

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Speaker 2: she said, I really struggle when I go out and

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Speaker 2: drink because if your crooked the whole time, I'm not,

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Speaker 2: I'm not at my best. So then she's she's got

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Speaker 2: stomach cramps and she look, that's great, she doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to eat, but you know what, she's not enjoying the

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Speaker 2: night because she's feeling nausey. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think we might need to change the way we

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Speaker 3: think about things because even when we talk about looking good,

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Speaker 3: we're always referencing being thinner or smaller or harder in

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Speaker 3: the torso as looking good. And if I'm carrying more weight,

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Speaker 3: I'm not looking good. Since in Whippa with Kate Ritchie

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