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Speaker 1: Sits and with with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Very very important day in Australia's history Tomorrow, October fourteen.

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Speaker 3: It's the referendum. I pre pold yesterday, did you You're

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Speaker 3: done today? Went up to like art, actually, do you

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Speaker 3: know what? Can I just say this?

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Speaker 2: There were there were there were Yes campaigners there and

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Speaker 2: there were no campaigners And as I was walking up,

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm not going to go anywhere

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Speaker 2: in the no campaigners. You know what they were? They

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Speaker 2: were actually really lovely people. They said, we know we

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Speaker 2: listened to you on the radio. They say we're not

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Speaker 2: going to give you a flyer or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: And I looked at the Yes campaigners and said are

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Speaker 2: you You guys are doing a great job. But they

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Speaker 2: were really lovely people and it was really civil and

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Speaker 2: they spoke really well.

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Speaker 3: Nice to see and went in there pre pold yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We just want to have a chat to everyone about

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Speaker 2: this because I know everyone there's a lot of people

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Speaker 2: out there that's confused and they want answers to questions

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Speaker 2: that they're not getting. There seems to be a bit

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Speaker 2: of a campaign going on as well from the Coalition

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Speaker 2: that you know, they're trying to push people and divide

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Speaker 2: people and confuse people as much as they can, but

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Speaker 2: really tomorrow the referendum is quite an easy answer. And

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Speaker 2: the question that Kate, I don't know about you, but

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Speaker 2: I've been speaking to a lot of friends, a lot

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Speaker 2: of family members like this has divided our family a

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Speaker 2: bit because Mum is basically, I'm going to be honest

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Speaker 2: to you. My mum is like, she goes, well, you

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Speaker 2: know I'm voting. No, I'm confused. And I've been having

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Speaker 2: this conversation with Mum. We know so many amazing Indigenous

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Speaker 2: people in our lives that Dad's played football with, that

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Speaker 2: we've grown up with, in the area that we grew

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Speaker 2: up with. And I said, Mum, have you spoken to

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Speaker 2: any of these close friends of yours? And she says, no,

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Speaker 2: I haven't. And that's what really gets me down, because.

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Speaker 4: When people aren't listening to the personal stories you mean.

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Speaker 3: I agree and this is what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: And I thought this might be a great opportunity to

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Speaker 2: get some Indigenous people on and some people of note,

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Speaker 2: just to see what the referendum means to them.

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Speaker 3: Do you mind if I do?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely One man who is a very proud and Narranga

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Speaker 2: and garner Man and I had.

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Speaker 3: The pleasure of playing football with the Sydney Swans.

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Speaker 2: Is Michael I Lachlan he joins us now, Mickey, thanks

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Speaker 2: for coming on the show, buddy, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: No, thanks for having me, Matte.

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Speaker 3: What is the referendum mean to you?

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Speaker 1: Voting yes means recognizing, Voting yes means listening, and voting

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Speaker 1: yes means better results for our people. It'll improve the

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Speaker 1: lives of so many people around the country, education, employment,

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Speaker 1: health outcomes for our mob. The indigenous people are reaching

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Speaker 1: out to the rest of Australia to vote yes. You're

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Speaker 1: not voting for a government, doesn't matter who you follow

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Speaker 1: the political sphere. It is literally you're voting to helping

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Speaker 1: Aboriginal and prestrata out the people around the country.

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Speaker 5: Michael, thank you so much. It is great to hear

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Speaker 5: from you. We know you're a very good friend of

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Speaker 5: Fitzis and we do you know that this means a.

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Speaker 4: Hell of a lot to you. So yeah, thanks so

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Speaker 4: much for chatting to us today.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Fitz. Who else have you got there that we could

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Speaker 3: speak to well?

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Speaker 2: As one of the best football us this country's ever

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Speaker 2: produced what he did on the footy field. Just people

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Speaker 2: a why he's a very proud We're and good cough

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Speaker 2: at our gubrin man iver in Port Lincoln in South Australia.

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Speaker 2: Eddie Bitts, thank you so much for coming on the show,

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Speaker 2: ed No, thank you so.

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Speaker 6: Much for the core and thanks for your leadership on

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Speaker 6: this as well.

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Speaker 2: How much does the referendum mean to you? So tomorrow

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Speaker 2: October for Dame. What does it mean to you, Eddie?

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's it means a lot. You know we speak

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Speaker 6: about this referendum. I mean Aboriginal people are born leaders

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Speaker 6: the way we've raised you know, we care for each other,

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Speaker 6: We bring people together and so the voice, the voice

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Speaker 6: means to me is that we not only can support

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Speaker 6: Aboriginal people within our communities, but my Aboriginal people too,

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Speaker 6: the other issues that we deal with can move forward

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Speaker 6: in this country. I mean, you know, I don't want

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Speaker 6: this voice just to fix problem as Aboriginal people you know,

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Speaker 6: aren't a problem to be sick. We need opportunities. Our

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Speaker 6: kid needs opportunities and this voice will give these kids

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Speaker 6: an opportunity. For me personally, I feel like I have

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Speaker 6: a voice as well, and I'm in a physition where

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Speaker 6: I could use that boyd and somewhat power, uncomfortable power,

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Speaker 6: and I'll continue to do that. I see. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 6: just fantastic if we do get this through to at

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Speaker 6: that table.

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Speaker 3: Eddie, you're a great man. Good luck tomorrow mate.

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Speaker 2: I know you'll be at the polling booth and taking

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Speaker 2: a photo of your yes photo. But we really do

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Speaker 2: appreciate your time. I know how much it means to you,

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Speaker 2: Ed thanks so much.

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Speaker 6: It's been and to everyone out there. We need this,

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Speaker 6: so please vote.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Thank you Eddie, thank you, thank you, Thank you, mate,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on the show. We

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Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Let's now go to a very talented

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Speaker 2: indigenous artist from ap Wylens. She's been part of the

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Speaker 2: Ularu dialogue and help shape the statement from the heart,

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Speaker 2: Sally Scouts.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for joining.

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Speaker 7: Us, sou thanks for having me.

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Speaker 6: Kizzie.

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Speaker 3: All I want to ask you so it's a simple question.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot of listeners that are listening right now,

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Speaker 2: but what does October fourteen, tomorrow and the referendum.

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Speaker 3: Mean to you.

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Speaker 7: So it's the day that we get to decide what

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Speaker 7: country we want to live in I look forward to

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Speaker 7: it in a great way of this is the biggest

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Speaker 7: hope for us, and it's a literally once in a

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Speaker 7: lifetime opportunity to say, hey, it's not going to hurt me.

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Speaker 7: You know, average people aren't coming to your backyard. That

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Speaker 7: is listen of Amazon, but it's also saying, oh, of

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Speaker 7: course you should have average of people talking about and

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Speaker 7: being a part of the laws and policies that are

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Speaker 7: enacted for us, rather than it's happening later on and

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Speaker 7: those laws and policies being fussed on us and we

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Speaker 7: have no clue what that's going to look like in

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Speaker 7: our community now.

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Speaker 5: Sally, I know you have a little son yourself, Wally,

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Speaker 5: I mean what does tomorrow I guess mean for him

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Speaker 5: and and his future here in Australia.

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Speaker 7: The biggest thing for me is this is about all

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Speaker 7: of our children. It's about my son's having a great life.

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Speaker 6: I want them to live.

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Speaker 7: In the world that they have the best opportunities and

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Speaker 7: that they can be on egal footing as your sons,

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Speaker 7: you know. And it's about what do we want to leave.

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Speaker 7: What's the legacy we want to leave all of them?

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Speaker 3: Great to hear, sir We thank you for joining the

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Speaker 3: show this morning. Good luck tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Can we finish on a man who has such an

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Speaker 2: influence and a lot of Australian's lives is Paul Kelly,

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Speaker 2: the artist. And Paul has released a brand new song

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Speaker 2: if Not Now for the Yes campaign and he joins

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Speaker 2: us now, Paul, first question I need to ask you,

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Speaker 2: and it's we've been asking everyone else so far, but

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Speaker 2: what does October forteen and the referendum mean to you tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: Mate?

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Speaker 8: Well, I believe this referendum is if a historic chance

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Speaker 8: to make this beautiful country more complete. I know there's

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Speaker 8: many say that yes vote is unfair, that it will

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Speaker 8: divide the country, but I believe the opposite, that it

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Speaker 8: will make this country fairer. This country has been divided

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Speaker 8: for close to two hundred and fifty years and this

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Speaker 8: is reflected in the great disparity in health, education and

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Speaker 8: life opportunities between Indigenous and non Indigenous Australian. They are

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Speaker 8: three percent of the population but make up thirty percent

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Speaker 8: and this is not due to any innate criminality. I

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Speaker 8: believe that recognition through a voice is our first step

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Speaker 8: towards the quality. They have a special but not separate

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Speaker 8: place in the nation. For too long they have been separate.

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Speaker 8: Shout out the fair go. I believe it's time to

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Speaker 8: come together.

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Speaker 4: Paul, good work, beautiful, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Does that sum up the song that you've just released

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Speaker 3: as well, Paul?

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Speaker 8: If not now, yeah, the song is pretty much saying

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Speaker 8: that except Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Well, Paul Kelly, thank you so much. Mate.

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Speaker 2: We know how busy you are the brand new song.

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Speaker 2: If not now, you can go get it anywhere. But Paul,

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Speaker 2: we know that you've been an advocate for this and

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Speaker 2: worked very very hard and let's hope that Australians can

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Speaker 2: find it in their heart to do the right thing

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Speaker 2: for First Nations people.

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Speaker 3: So thanks for your time, Paul, Thanks very.

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Speaker 8: Much and really appreciate it, and weaper with Kate.

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