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Speaker 1: So what do you think starts to happen to that

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Speaker 1: It's better than yesterday. Here to help make today better

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Speaker 1: than yesterday. Since twenty thirteen. My name's al Sha Ginsburg.

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Speaker 1: I'm a podcaster. I'm a best selling author. I'm a husband,

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Speaker 1: I'm a dad, I'm a stepdad. I'm an unexpected basement floodman, gator,

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Speaker 1: exciting weekend and I'm glad you're here. Yeah, well this weekend.

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Speaker 1: super easy osh against bog dot com links in the

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Speaker 1: show notes, So I was talking about to do lists

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Speaker 1: It's a good idea, but it's okay if I don't

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Speaker 1: What's the thing that's causing you the most amount of stress? Right?

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Speaker 1: That actually makes it easier to not do them, because

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Speaker 1: you know what, if you fuck up. Be kind to yourself.

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Speaker 1: you slipper. Progress not perfection. Essentially, it's just a way

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Speaker 1: the stuff that doesn't work. It helps you make more

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Speaker 1: time for that, and it's great. I love having mine

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Speaker 1: it up. Quite fun. I hope that was of some

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