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Speaker 1: This is the Fits in Whip with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Tonight is a very very exciting night eight point thirty

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Speaker 2: on the ABC. A role of a lifetime premieres Ryan James.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 3: It's a series about how to parent in the rapidly

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Speaker 3: changing world, using his sitcom Family Now Kate Richie is

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Speaker 3: a part of that. Nazim Hussein as well. Amanda Keller

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Speaker 3: is hosting it and basically they're acting out parenting challenges

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Speaker 3: which then this lady jumps in and explores and gives

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Speaker 3: you answers to do in these situations. We love this

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Speaker 3: lady to death, the magnificent Maggie Debt.

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Speaker 2: Way, Maggie, we have been very kindly. You arrived this

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Speaker 2: morning too with flowers which are going straight to the

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Speaker 2: beautiful car Richie's house.

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Speaker 1: Honest to God, when you Kate nails everything in this show,

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Speaker 1: we're not only in the sitcom. Oh my god, you're

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Speaker 1: going to split yourself laughing because they take the piss

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Speaker 1: out of every situation that's happening in so many houses,

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Speaker 1: like starting off with you know, the eleven year old

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Speaker 1: boy coming out scratching his bum. So I've got to

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Speaker 1: think a new bomb chocolate and also Kate gets frozen

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Speaker 1: out by a fifteen year old daughter. Look every mother

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Speaker 1: on that and that moment is feeling so seen and

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Speaker 1: so heard. But then stepping out of it and talking

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Speaker 1: to the experts and actually going through some of the

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Speaker 1: the real life, the real the reasons behind and what's

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Speaker 1: a real worry? You know, it really is big stuff.

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Speaker 1: And then oh my god, the last episode go sort

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Speaker 1: of I'm.

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Speaker 2: So glad, yeah, that this show is happening. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'd liked with Kate yesterday and she's great and she's

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Speaker 2: excited about this term, which is awesome, which is great

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Speaker 2: for her. So I mean, when you come in and

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Speaker 2: we talk about these sorts of situations, a lot of

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Speaker 2: what's played out on the show, like you said, is

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Speaker 2: real life. So whenever we have you in thirteen twenty

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Speaker 2: four ten we've got a question from Maggie, then it

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Speaker 2: doesn't stop. I know, fits you wanted to open with

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Speaker 2: one about Hueie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did so.

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Speaker 3: My eldest is fifteen years of age, now, Maggie, how

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Speaker 3: much how much is that?

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Speaker 4: It is?

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, it really is.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I get more.

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Speaker 3: Excited to think about what I went through at that

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Speaker 3: age like, it's an amazing Look, there are a lot

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Speaker 3: of problems that you have in your life, but it's

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Speaker 3: also you're finding your best friends in life and you

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Speaker 3: are exploring and it's just unbelievable. I wanted to ask you,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of parents do ask about the alcohol

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Speaker 3: because so now he's fifteen years of age. I've had

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Speaker 3: a good chat to him, he said, Dad, I haven't

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Speaker 3: touched it, but he's now going.

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Speaker 1: To parties where it is there, and I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm really struggling to sort of find do I do.

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Speaker 3: I hold off as much as I can. I don't

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Speaker 3: know the way to approach him, who is then going

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Speaker 3: to these parties Maggie. So I just wanted some advice

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Speaker 1: All right, The research is overwhelming in this space, and

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Speaker 1: that says the earlier that your teenagers start drinking, the

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Speaker 1: more likely they're going to have problematic drinking. So what

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Speaker 1: you're doing is really really good. And the very fact

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Speaker 1: that you know having those conversations. I was a really

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Speaker 1: tough ass mum. Mine weren't allowed to parties till year eleven,

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Speaker 1: and I never ever bought a many alcohol and it

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Speaker 1: but they knew it really wasn't considered okay. So that

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Speaker 1: story about oh, give them a taste because we've been

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Speaker 1: doing that, they'll be fine is absolutely the opposite. But

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Speaker 1: you also need to talk to you boy at some

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Speaker 1: point then hunger for him to belong with his friends

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Speaker 1: and not all. There's really good research that comes from

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Speaker 1: Paul Dylan, who works with teens everywhere. He said that

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Speaker 1: they're drinking so much less than previous generations and over

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Speaker 3: Culture has changed, it's changed massively.

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Speaker 1: And so the tip is if that pressure is happening,

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Speaker 1: then go for anything that's lower alcohol. So go for

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Speaker 1: beer and sit on the one drink, right. But also

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Speaker 3: So you were anti though, Maggie, you said to your boys,

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Speaker 3: I don't want you to drink, but you knew that

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Speaker 3: they were drinking. They were going to pay. But then, Maggie,

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Speaker 3: the question I asked, were they comfortable enough to come

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Speaker 1: Would never dare come home inebriated. Right, and then guess

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Speaker 1: what's happening. They're doing Ops, they're drinking other people's right,

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Speaker 1: which means those other people aren't drinking as much either.

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Speaker 1: And this is a country situation, a house full of

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Speaker 1: but at the same time I knew what was going on.

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Speaker 1: That's why the rules were how you get home, right,

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Speaker 1: get home when they're affected by our colon drugs. That's

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Speaker 1: when they get run over, that's when they do stumb stuff,

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Speaker 1: and that's when sexual violence happens. To be perfect now, yes.

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Speaker 2: Maggie, if we go back a few years, what am

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Speaker 2: I looking at ten and an eight year old? Why

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Speaker 2: nighttime you get into bed, and then things that wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what happens is all of us actually do

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Speaker 1: the mind things that do worry them. And that's why

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Speaker 1: it is one of the windows that teens will often

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Speaker 1: getting meals, you're not distracted by your phone. You're actually

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Speaker 1: another one of those gifts, and you just want to

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Speaker 1: keep saying. When your team comes home and vents all

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Speaker 1: over you, you know, they're just bringing stuff that they won't

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Speaker 1: as a gift. That's because they love me.

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Speaker 2: That's a good way to pry.

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Speaker 1: It, and we want it, doubt not.

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Speaker 3: It's the worst time of the day though, you're so stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get down, I know, But isn't it

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Speaker 1: I know, it's their burdens.

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Speaker 2: Well the other I mean it started when school went back,

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Speaker 2: the biggest one was, and it's considered the worst day

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, why is the swimming sports the worst

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Speaker 1: day of the am Why they so early?

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Speaker 2: Holy had it's warming up in this country a bit longer?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I must admit, I've just had three of my

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Speaker 1: Well, if they've been swimming a lot, they love it.

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Speaker 1: So you see, I had a swimmer. So he loved

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Speaker 1: it right because that was his chance to dominate. That

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Speaker 1: loving it. Thanks very much, Thanks very much.

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Speaker 2: Because one I said to Ted, I mean he was

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Speaker 2: And I said, Ted, you're not going to be an

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Speaker 2: Here's what I want you to do. Dive in, swim

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Speaker 1: And also get into cheering your team. I think that's

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Speaker 1: In other words, it's a fun day out of school.

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Speaker 1: So I think we've got a different way. It's a

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Speaker 2: Well, said Maggie Dan.

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Speaker 1: This is the Fitz and.

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Speaker 2: Whibber with Cape Richie podcast eight thirty on the ABC.

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Speaker 2: The Role of a lifetime It premiere is starring our

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Speaker 2: very own Kate Richie, but the other mainer is Maggie Dan.

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Speaker 1: Heyver, can we just tell people this is design for

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Speaker 1: you to sit on the counch with your tween or teen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's it's it done as a family, done as

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Speaker 1: a family, you know, because it's funny. And also the

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Speaker 1: information that they hit you really hard with both sides

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Speaker 1: of us needs to know this and then what they

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Speaker 1: do after I think, and then we hear teens voices,

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Speaker 1: and I think teens need to you know, they're a

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Speaker 1: part of this. I love you know. Every now and

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Speaker 1: then they're way smarter than us with what they know,

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Speaker 1: but they don't know all of it. So in actual

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Speaker 1: fat we need input from pairs and teens to navigate

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Speaker 1: this crazy world that is actually harder than ever and

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Speaker 1: it's harder being a teen today than ever before.

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Speaker 6: So sit down with the kids and watch.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be so many funny moments and cringe moments,

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Speaker 1: but each of you will cringe over something different. Lessons

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Speaker 1: for everyone, Lessons for everyone. I mean one of the

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Speaker 1: you know, watching Kate's daughter freezer out. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: she ages up putting your head in the freezer. It

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Speaker 1: is so well done. And his mother with a daughter

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Speaker 1: who's freezing her out right now, who could be aged

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Speaker 1: ten to Oh my god, you will love the daughter's

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Speaker 2: What is the age that girls stop talking to their parents?

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Speaker 1: Oh, they can start it two or three. They're so clever,

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Speaker 3: It is that why you bring inies cookies for us

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Speaker 3: before you chat to us every time you come in, Maggie,

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Speaker 3: Is that why you feed us first?

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Speaker 1: I know it's a give away because you don't want

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Speaker 1: a hungry boy or man. You just can't think of

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Speaker 1: they're angry.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Maggie, you are a superstar.

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Speaker 3: You are a sonaster. If you want more. This is

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Speaker 3: great because these scenes will be acted out on it

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Speaker 3: and then Maggie comes in and gives you your answers

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Speaker 3: as a parent. It's very, very important. It's called the

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Speaker 3: role of a lifetime eight thirty to nine on the ABC.

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Speaker 3: We love you, Maggie.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in so much. I just wish they'd

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Speaker 1: given me a go when I was a bit younger.

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Speaker 2: It's Whippa, It's Kate. Ritchie is a Nova podcast walk

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Speaker 2: great shows like this. Download the Nova player, Fire the

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Speaker 2: App Store, or Google Playing.

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Speaker 4: I Am